Hi! Magnat products are useful from budget to premium category. Magnat&Heco are old, specialized to loudspeakers company. In the mid and higher priced category they made real good quality loudspeakers, includes good crossover, tweeters, mids and woofers. Cabinets also good quality, in material and outfit too.
For 2k this seems fine. All mdf cabinet looks to be atleast 3/4 inch thick all around and flush installed drivers. Tweeter looks the nicest of all the drivers and I like that theres 2 crossovers. I would take these over any B&W or Focals with aluminum tweeters.
Everything else on the speaker looks top notch. I wonder why they chose to cheap out on the crossover parts. Maybe space saving parts but still?!?!?! Crossover makeover would be the first thing I would do if I purchased these used.
they think no one will open them haha, I open every speaker that I get, maybe thats not a good idea but I have to see what is going on.. see the crossover, build quality, date of built, what filling is inside etc.
They look really well made loudspeakers, especially considering the price. The only let down is the crossover, as always cheap low quality parts!! I hadn't ever heard of the brand until this video
Nie wiem ,ale zawsze mam mieszane uczucia jak widzę elektrolity w zwrotnicy , poza tym trochę ryzykowne rozwiązanie budowy głośników niskotonowych. Na + lepsze chłodzenie cewki ,ale na - zbieranie kurzu ,a jak nie daj panie wpadnie jakiś opiłek w nabiegunniki, to pograne.
I have those 709 in piano black. Very good built . I will put silicone gaskets. I have removed tweeters, one had gone, put a pair of decent ones over the cabinet. De couple. Very very good built. Lots of bracing. 40 kilos each. Had they better woofers and mid, they would be perfect !!!!!
@@TheRockerxx69 ok then I already found a pair where I'm from and here we have only literal junk. But this guy brought them from Switzerland and says they are in factory state so ... THANKS A LOT for the REPLY 🙂
they haven't been both side by side at the same time, therefore no objective answer. Both for they second hand price sound amazing good, I love how sound BW mid and high. It's british sound :)
@@Techscrews fair enough, in your 603 s3 i noticed different speaker basket, they are related more with 600 2 series. My 603 S3 has new speaker basket, i don't know why they changed, also dust cap is changed on kevlar midrange
Those arent big,but you seem to have the same problem as i do😅. Its just to buy heavier speakers so "someone" cant move it alone, so they just have to stay😊
not too bad but i wouldn't pay more then £500 for £2k hatbeth or proac , spendor , pmc just checked it it's £664 but still many better options around internal quality wise
Unfortunately even expensive speakers that have all the right things can still end up performing badly when measured. Anyone can put a bunch of high end drivers in a fancy heavy box with a big crossover. I would never purchase a expensive speaker with out documentation of proper measurements done.
C'mon, my Edifier speakers that I once bought for 100€ don't have an electrolytic cap in tweeter section and these "high end" speakers don't? This is no highend, this is crap.
Честно говоря, для 2000$ не так и плохо.В моих Dali Mentor 2 (купленных в декабре 2006-го) мид-бас выглядел примерно как здесь вуфер (магнит чуть больше, в целом - уровень динамиков SEAS Prestige по 60-70$), твитеры вообще говно - не сравнить с этим Магнатовским, им цена по 15 баксов за каждый, от силы - на столько и играли. Кроссовер из компонентов такого же уровня. Но, это были 2-полосные полочники, корпус был в 2,5 раза меньше - а стоили тогда 1800 баксов !!! Или взять к примеру кроссовер Dynaudio Special Forty за 3000 евро - там стоит 14 элементов такого же уровня, я как-то прикинул их розничную цену - у меня вышло около 30 евро, и это 14 ЭЛЕМЕНТОВ !!!! ))) Цена одного, нормального кондёра на ВЧ.
LMAO dali mentor is not on the same level as seas prestige. If your compering magnet size then you don't know shit. BL is important not a magnet size. You can make very small magnet and if voicoil gap will be smaller like it is in more high end drivers it will have higher force and efficiency and less weight which is plus in pro audio. Seas prestige crushes lots of even very high end drivers. A build on them could easily compete with epicons although I would choose seas 9/10 times
Love your what's inside videos but... Magnat & Heco are both cheap manufacturers imitating high-end brands. Dead cheap electrolytic capacitors, iron core coils and standart cement resistors and you expect sound quality ? That's not the way to make a high-end speaker, not even close ! And all of those specs are nonsense, totally garbage. No one believes or take Magnat & Heco seriously in the audio world. There are lots of other German brands who are really manufacturing high-end speakers (ELAC, CANTON etc.) Just forget Magnat & Heco, they are all for show not sound quality...
Elac and Canton also not High end brands, real high end brand are MBL or Focal, REL, MCIntosh, Sonus Faber and other. Magnat selll good audio stuff for the price tag. For real High end cables cost more then Magnat speakers.
@@Techscrews Sorry, but you have no idea what you're talking about. ELAC & CANTON are definitely high-end manufacturers like the ones you mentioned. It's clear that you never experienced ELAC & CANTON. Go better try them out before commenting... and be sure to check out the drivers, crossover topologies and cabinet constructions of the upper segment models. You'll be shocked 😉
@@Boorock70 I have used canton Canton GLE 409 speakers and in real objective test smaller magnat quantum 605 sound more better. Any brand have good model and bad. You can't say, that Canon is better than Magnat, both brands have good speakers.
Each speaker is designed according to the target price. If you replace the iron core inductor with a similar priced air core, the much higher DCR would deteriorate the damping ratio. Iron core/p-core has higher distortion of 2-6 dB THD depending on design. Cement/sand cast resistors do not have any meaningfully higher inductance compared to other types and still pretty cheap. A loudspeaker is more than the sum of parts. A $2000 speaker cannot have parts worth more than $400. This is not your diy speaker project.
@@Techscrews Canton GLE is an economic/budget serie, you have to go higher than that. Even the B series will kill any Heco/Magnat speaker. And if you decide to go higher A series, Chrono SL's will be much more than enough. Still, there are 2 more levels to go if you have the budget. Spend some time with Canton & hear it by yourself.
Nowaday Magnat Quantum 757 on amazon:
- Amazon co uk amzn.to/2JsFdlG
- Amazon de amzn.to/2UqV6zq
this is newer version of this speakers ? how do u find the sound of magnat,is it bright or warm ?
Hi!
Magnat products are useful from budget to premium category.
Magnat&Heco are old, specialized to loudspeakers company.
In the mid and higher priced category they made real good quality loudspeakers, includes good crossover, tweeters, mids and woofers.
Cabinets also good quality, in material and outfit too.
bro.. can i ask if 220 euro is good for quantum 655 ???
are they any good or i should pass ??
For 2k this seems fine. All mdf cabinet looks to be atleast 3/4 inch thick all around and flush installed drivers. Tweeter looks the nicest of all the drivers and I like that theres 2 crossovers. I would take these over any B&W or Focals with aluminum tweeters.
There are pictures from second audio crossover, that I forgot to put in video - imgur.com/a/Xo9qllU
Got the 908,903,916, powerd by ROTEL 1058 17 years ago ..ridiculously good.
crossovers usually show the real value, take a look at canton crossovers they can go on the wall how pretty they are.. love your videos btw
That's right, especially the older Ergo and the Vento/Reference series. It's also impressive that Canton produces all drivers at home in Germany.
Everything else on the speaker looks top notch. I wonder why they chose to cheap out on the crossover parts. Maybe space saving parts but still?!?!?! Crossover makeover would be the first thing I would do if I purchased these used.
they think no one will open them haha, I open every speaker that I get, maybe thats not a good idea but I have to see what is going on.. see the crossover, build quality, date of built, what filling is inside etc.
If you could buy these cheap secondhand you would only have to invest another €1000 to bring the crossover up to par.
There are pictures from second audio crossover, that I forget to put in video - imgur.com/a/Xo9qllU
Very good speakers for this price! The sound is much better than its price!
Was the cabinet made from chipboard or MDF? It was really difficult to see from the video...
for that price you can atleast expect mdf or hdf
@@chaeyoungshi You would. But you'd be surprised what price range you have to hit just to get standard MDF. Hence my curiosity with this speaker.
I'm surprised that they cheaped out on the crossover when everything else was so well done.
excellent build crossover(3rd or 4th order) is the second most expensive thing after the speakers. Of course not like this one crossover
These are the biggest ports I've ever seen, port to cabinet/driver ratio is just - huuuuumungous
Great job 🔉🕩👌tnx.
Thank you too!
I had a pair of 15" subs years back in my 406 coupe
an they were top dog german quality
They look really well made loudspeakers, especially considering the price. The only let down is the crossover, as always cheap low quality parts!!
I hadn't ever heard of the brand until this video
True. If has better cross over they can charge a bit more and people would buy it. But modern day manufacturing is all about cutting corners somewhere
Nie wiem ,ale zawsze mam mieszane uczucia jak widzę elektrolity w zwrotnicy , poza tym trochę ryzykowne rozwiązanie budowy głośników niskotonowych. Na + lepsze chłodzenie cewki ,ale na - zbieranie kurzu ,a jak nie daj panie wpadnie jakiś opiłek w nabiegunniki, to pograne.
I have those 709 in piano black. Very good built . I will put silicone gaskets. I have removed tweeters, one had gone, put a pair of decent ones over the cabinet. De couple. Very very good built. Lots of bracing. 40 kilos each. Had they better woofers and mid, they would be perfect !!!!!
quantum 655 for 220 euro???
are they good bc for me 220euro is a lot but i want to buy my first pair of speakers
plzz answer meee
@@ChudGippity they are not in production anymore. you can find them used. Try Germany
@@ChudGippity buy them
@@TheRockerxx69 ok then I already found a pair where I'm from and here we have only literal junk. But this guy brought them from Switzerland and says they are in factory state so ...
THANKS A LOT for the REPLY 🙂
@@ChudGippity where do you live?
Nice Frequency response
For a complete novice what is the black and white material inside please?
insulation materials such as loose rock wool or using sheep wool.
Can you show the X over?
how do you compare Magnat Q709 with B&W 603 S3 in sound :)
they haven't been both side by side at the same time, therefore no objective answer. Both for they second hand price sound amazing good, I love how sound BW mid and high. It's british sound :)
@@Techscrews fair enough, in your 603 s3 i noticed different speaker basket, they are related more with 600 2 series. My 603 S3 has new speaker basket, i don't know why they changed, also dust cap is changed on kevlar midrange
Whi would pay 2k on magnat products?
Cause they worth it
@@tomszentins202 no, sadly they're not. Magnat is actually pretty overpriced and not good quality..
Therefore best way is buy second hand for about $600-700 and get best price performance for bucks.
I had magnat 6.5 drivers in my car. They SUCKED. without ampligication they were bottoming out. Swapped to focal
@@AndreiT04 Car and hifi audio are two very different category, for example pioneer do good job in car audio, but suck in hifi.
2 years ago I bought a second hand set of these for 250 Euro. Insane value. Now they have to go, someone in the house thinks they are to big 😅
wow, your are MEGA lucky :)
Those arent big,but you seem to have the same problem as i do😅. Its just to buy heavier speakers so "someone" cant move it alone, so they just have to stay😊
not too bad but i wouldn't pay more then £500
for £2k hatbeth or proac , spendor , pmc
just checked it it's £664 but still many better options around internal quality wise
Good news, that second hand they cost around 500.
Sound test pls pls
there it is - ruclips.net/video/bAt_jxewOVg/видео.html
Much better parts than the 1000 Transpul
price also is better, at least 2 times
Корзины динамиков метал или пластик ?
Eng please.
@@Techscrews please give me an answer
@@alexgx910 what kind of answer?
@@Techscrews What material are the speaker baskets in this model made of, plastic or metal
@@alexgx910 The only loudspeakers with plastic baskets i found in MA RS8 ruclips.net/video/5Sfc4EGdgh0/видео.html
Спасибо!UssR
sound test plz
Try to do :)
Sond test was uploaded - ruclips.net/video/bAt_jxewOVg/видео.html
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Unfortunately even expensive speakers that have all the right things can still end up performing badly when measured. Anyone can put a bunch of high end drivers in a fancy heavy box with a big crossover. I would never purchase a expensive speaker with out documentation of proper measurements done.
Best way is bought speakers after a/b listening test. What we do.
Price bro?
yea lol
new they cost around $2000 for pair.
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Nice video
Thanks
C'mon, my Edifier speakers that I once bought for 100€ don't have an electrolytic cap in tweeter section and these "high end" speakers don't?
This is no highend, this is crap.
Dude, that audio crossover is only for bass, there is second audio crossover for mid and high.
There are pictures from second audio crossover, that I forget to put in video - imgur.com/a/Xo9qllU
Честно говоря, для 2000$ не так и плохо.В моих Dali Mentor 2 (купленных в декабре 2006-го) мид-бас выглядел примерно как здесь вуфер (магнит чуть больше, в целом - уровень динамиков SEAS Prestige по 60-70$), твитеры вообще говно - не сравнить с этим Магнатовским, им цена по 15 баксов за каждый, от силы - на столько и играли. Кроссовер из компонентов такого же уровня. Но, это были 2-полосные полочники, корпус был в 2,5 раза меньше - а стоили тогда 1800 баксов !!!
Или взять к примеру кроссовер Dynaudio Special Forty за 3000 евро - там стоит 14 элементов такого же уровня, я как-то прикинул их розничную цену - у меня вышло около 30 евро, и это 14 ЭЛЕМЕНТОВ !!!! ))) Цена одного, нормального кондёра на ВЧ.
LMAO dali mentor is not on the same level as seas prestige. If your compering magnet size then you don't know shit. BL is important not a magnet size. You can make very small magnet and if voicoil gap will be smaller like it is in more high end drivers it will have higher force and efficiency and less weight which is plus in pro audio. Seas prestige crushes lots of even very high end drivers. A build on them could easily compete with epicons although I would choose seas 9/10 times
Tear down of a $2000 speaker, what did I find? about $200 worth of parts. lol
where I can get these parts for $200 ?
@@Techscrewsbend over
Widać zniekształcenie zawieszenia gumowego jednego z głośników.
The surround rubber of the woofer under the tweeter is NOT ROUND, on the left Side, at 0:27! Unacceptable production and quality at 2000$!
What ? It's just optical fail from Iphone 11 camera.
@@Techscrews i hope so for you :)))
Magnat vs Canton... Which is better? Thanks
@@khoi83 It's like Audi vs BMW
@@Techscrews No, something is wrong with the 2. Woofer?
Posh guts
This brand of speakers really suck in the crossover dept.
Caps like those should Not be used for sound.
Not worth 2000 dollars compared Bowers wilkinson
but you can get second-hand for around $700-800 and then they give very nice price/performance.
Cheap, cheap crossover.
There is two crossovers, this one is only for bass. Second for mid/high i dont record, sorry.
@@Techscrews Got it.
There are pictures from second audio crossover, that I forgot to put in video - imgur.com/a/Xo9qllU
Love your what's inside videos but... Magnat & Heco are both cheap manufacturers imitating high-end brands.
Dead cheap electrolytic capacitors, iron core coils and standart cement resistors and you expect sound quality ?
That's not the way to make a high-end speaker, not even close !
And all of those specs are nonsense, totally garbage. No one believes or take Magnat & Heco seriously in the audio world. There are lots of other German brands who are really manufacturing high-end speakers (ELAC, CANTON etc.) Just forget Magnat & Heco, they are all for show not sound quality...
Elac and Canton also not High end brands, real high end brand are MBL or Focal, REL, MCIntosh, Sonus Faber and other. Magnat selll good audio stuff for the price tag. For real High end cables cost more then Magnat speakers.
@@Techscrews Sorry, but you have no idea what you're talking about.
ELAC & CANTON are definitely high-end manufacturers like the ones you mentioned.
It's clear that you never experienced ELAC & CANTON. Go better try them out before commenting... and be sure to check out the drivers, crossover topologies and cabinet constructions of the upper segment models. You'll be shocked 😉
@@Boorock70 I have used canton Canton GLE 409 speakers and in real objective test smaller magnat quantum 605 sound more better. Any brand have good model and bad. You can't say, that Canon is better than Magnat, both brands have good speakers.
Each speaker is designed according to the target price. If you replace the iron core inductor with a similar priced air core, the much higher DCR would deteriorate the damping ratio. Iron core/p-core has higher distortion of 2-6 dB THD depending on design. Cement/sand cast resistors do not have any meaningfully higher inductance compared to other types and still pretty cheap. A loudspeaker is more than the sum of parts.
A $2000 speaker cannot have parts worth more than $400. This is not your diy speaker project.
@@Techscrews Canton GLE is an economic/budget serie, you have to go higher than that.
Even the B series will kill any Heco/Magnat speaker. And if you decide to go higher A series, Chrono SL's will be much more than enough. Still, there are 2 more levels to go if you have the budget. Spend some time with Canton & hear it by yourself.
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