Fitness - The MASTERCLASS - TSS, CTL, ATL, TSB and Performance Management Charts EXPLAINED!

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  • Опубликовано: 29 дек 2024

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  • @delkim3691
    @delkim3691 3 года назад +53

    Nobody on YT can explain ANYTHING so understandable as you!!!!! It is a gift :)

    • @Datagrl8888
      @Datagrl8888 3 года назад

      Tru! Sarah can I call you for work questions?

  • @thesergeant3524
    @thesergeant3524 Год назад +11

    You're such a natural educator and brilliant communicator. It really makes me happy when I see people with your kind of skillset sharing them with the world. Thank you for all the time you've taken and the commitment you've made to making the REST OF US BETTER. You're a gift Sarah, thank you.

  • @EverythingIsPhotogenic
    @EverythingIsPhotogenic  3 года назад +26

    **I did not notice until publishing, but when I said if you ride at 75% for an hour it is 75 TSS I misspoke" that should have been 85% for an hour is 75 TSS. The calculation is performed as the percentage as a decimal squared X 100.**
    Timestamps:
    0:00​ Introduction: Why this stuff matters
    7:15​ TSS - Training Stress Score
    11:27​ CTL - Chronic Training Load (Fitness)
    13:43​ ATL - Acute Training Load (Fatigue)
    14:42​ TSB - Training Stress Balance (Form/Freshness)
    22:18​ Performance Management Charts
    Also note when I said the term rolling average I inadvertently omitted the word **weighted** there's a little more calculation in the back end than a basic average or mean value, but its not particularly important to understand. For the data junkies, the equtions are:
    CTLtoday = CTLyesterday + (TSStoday - CTLyesterday)(1/CTL time constant)
    ATLtoday = ATLyesterday + (TSStoday - ATLyesterday)(1/ATL time constant)
    And TSB is the simple subtraction.
    The average is weighted to give a greater preference for recency.

    • @spedway
      @spedway 3 года назад

      Sarah, hi. I get a tremendous amount of benefit from your Zwift and training videos. My reason for commenting here, though, is to ask you to check your website email. I've been trying to reach you through it about a couple of photography assignments for my magazine that are less than 45 minutes from you. Please let me know if you are not interested, so I won't keep trying to get in touch. Thanks for all of the Zwift information!

    • @EverythingIsPhotogenic
      @EverythingIsPhotogenic  3 года назад

      @@spedway Thanks for the heads up, looks like there must be something wrong with the linkage to my email with Squarespace, I'll have to look into what's going on. I wish I could take on some assignments right now, but I am absolutely swamped at work for the next 6 weeks. Between that, my training, and trying to get up at least one video per week I am pretty time-starved. I wouldn't want to commit to something I couldn't deliver in a timely manner or submit with the level of quality that I would want to provide, especially for publication. Sorry that your inquiries went unanswered, I will check the back end in Squarespace to figure out the bottleneck. The email address it goes to is everythingisphotogenic@gmail.com. If you want to send me your email directly, if things let up sooner and you're still in need, I can reach out. 🙂

    • @guscrown
      @guscrown 2 года назад

      I used these formulas to do the calculation for your example of the starting CTL of 50 and doing 700TSS over a period of 7 days. I arrive at a CTL of 58 like you said, but I do not get an ATL of 100. Using your formula above I get an ATL of 83 at the of the 7 day period. What am I doing wrong? I started with a CTL of 50 and ATL of 50.

    • @EverythingIsPhotogenic
      @EverythingIsPhotogenic  2 года назад +1

      @@guscrown you would not get an ATL of 100 in this example. The averages are weighted and rolling. 83 is the correct CTL. In the example I used in the video was to help people to understand how they are related when calculating TSB. I didn't mention the starting ATL. If we assumed it was identical to the CTL, ATL would actually hit an endpoint of 92, not quite 100. It wasn't worth creating hypothetical ATL values for the preceding days for the sake of explaining the broader concept. It also depends on how the daily TSS is distributed. 100 TSS per day is different than 104, 98, 84, 124, 64, 135, and 95, but they still make 700 TSS for the week.
      Because these rolling and weighted averages are recalculated every day, starting delta between ATL and TSS matters and two different riders with the identical 7 day TSS distribution could have different ATL values. A person with a starting ATL of 80 will have an ending ATL 10 points higher than someone with an ATL of 50 at the end of that week.
      Hope this helps.

  • @davidbarnetson4417
    @davidbarnetson4417 3 года назад +37

    Brilliant. You're a great educator and not once did you go to a close up of you making a coffee or try and sell a supplement called greens something or other like so many other youtubers! I can actually get some value now from my Strava subscription and understand what the numbers are saying - great boost to my training! Thank you!

  • @leewilliams6416
    @leewilliams6416 3 года назад +6

    I have just turned 70 and am being more deliberate about my fitness/exercise, so these videos are very helpful in understanding the modern context/jargon/concepts. I've raced dirtbikes most of my life, but am getting into mountain biking so want to be more deliberate about my training.

  • @nicolasgonzalez127
    @nicolasgonzalez127 4 месяца назад

    I was never able to understand those charts (I’m using Strava). Your video explain the underlying concepts and I’m now able to understand Fitness & Fatigue. It’s super clear now !
    You definitely have an incredible gift in putting together these materials and explaining this so clearly. I’ve looked some of your other videos and it’s the same. Simply awesome 👍🏻

  • @KmanRider
    @KmanRider 3 года назад +4

    This is the best explanation of Fitness metrics I have ever come across. Please make Masterclass vid on using a Power Meter!

    • @EverythingIsPhotogenic
      @EverythingIsPhotogenic  3 года назад +1

      I made this long form video about training with power, zones, FTP and so forth:
      ruclips.net/video/pnK6_3rSyh8/видео.html
      But let me know if you're asking about something more specific regarding power, its a good subject 🙂

    • @KmanRider
      @KmanRider 3 года назад

      @@EverythingIsPhotogenic The struggle for me comes with understanding how to use/apply my power meter data on the road. Whilst i understand how to use it in training purposes ie intervals for a certain period of time. I think a lot of people would benefit from understanding how to apply it more readily to group ride/ race specifc situations.

  • @ChristopherSterwerf
    @ChristopherSterwerf 3 года назад +15

    One of the best explanations I've seen on the topic. Great job!

  • @gordonrobb
    @gordonrobb 3 года назад +2

    Awesome. I’ve been using ‘intervals.icu’ and looking at the ‘fitness’ graph, and had no idea what it was telling me. Now I know. Thanks.

  • @bryanhutch
    @bryanhutch 8 месяцев назад

    This is such a great video. I learned a huge amount in 1/2 hr. Great communication, very grateful - thanks.

  • @YosiOren
    @YosiOren Год назад

    Thank you. I love learning from you.

  • @youngzoo5
    @youngzoo5 3 года назад +3

    Good explanations. Thanks. Another good (and free) resource for this data is the intervals.icu. Connect it to your Strava account and it provides all the calculations. I don’t think there’s a mobile/app version though if that’s important.

  • @GregJC
    @GregJC 4 месяца назад

    Thank you for this video. All of these different training scores and figures seemed too complicated for me so I never bothered but you cleared it all up!

  • @swashbuckler1975
    @swashbuckler1975 Год назад

    This is the clearest overview of Training Peaks charts and numbers. So good

  • @onlyfoolriding8223
    @onlyfoolriding8223 2 года назад

    This girl knows what she's talking about. Listen.

  • @gerardmurray9912
    @gerardmurray9912 2 года назад

    I listen in your speed and it's a breeze of fresh air!

  • @Gledii
    @Gledii Год назад

    Hallelluja! first time i see someone really explaining what Fitness means and puting the science behind. thanks for that

  • @jeffhsu57
    @jeffhsu57 3 года назад

    Super video! I applauded for ¥200 👏

  • @patrickstapper857
    @patrickstapper857 2 года назад

    What a brilliant video. Got a really good overview on what to look at but mostly to understand what i am doing and what i shouldn't be doing....

  • @jonathankelley6541
    @jonathankelley6541 8 месяцев назад

    Superb video very clearly explained - thank you for taking the time to produce this.

  • @paintedtabletop
    @paintedtabletop 3 года назад

    One of the best explanations, if not the best. clear and coherent, especially new to cycling.

  • @fabienbertel4597
    @fabienbertel4597 3 года назад

    Waw! Signed up on TP a month ago, saw a zillion yt-clips on how to correctly read the data, but still failed to use the platform properly. After watching this, all is clear. Waw, just waw! 👍

  • @andrehommer9661
    @andrehommer9661 Год назад

    A real MASTERCLASS...thank you.

  • @neilveitch5761
    @neilveitch5761 3 года назад +5

    ... but a brilliant explanation of the significance of these metrics all the same. Great video, very instructive.

  • @AnvilAirsoftTV
    @AnvilAirsoftTV Год назад

    Very well explained. Thankyou.

  • @AK-yq2ct
    @AK-yq2ct 2 года назад

    I just watched this twice. Great explanation, thanks!

  • @dn3andy
    @dn3andy Год назад

    Really helpful video, now starting to understand the data in Strava, currently -47 on form, so going to make adjustments.

  • @smallworksphotography
    @smallworksphotography 2 года назад

    You've just saved me from making a load of mistakes as I'm looking to build my own plan. Thank you for taking the time to educate others.

  • @davidfournier3355
    @davidfournier3355 3 месяца назад

    Great video and extremely informative! Thank you!

  • @Jtrettel
    @Jtrettel Год назад

    Rurally we’ll done! Thank you!

  • @ivarssonjorgen
    @ivarssonjorgen 2 года назад

    Excellent explanation! Thank you very much!

  • @shelleycline6660
    @shelleycline6660 3 года назад +4

    "Your body will ask you nicely and then it will pull the emergency brake." Amen! I love Strava's Fitness/Freshness data visualization. I am often way more fatigued than I realize. As athletes, we train ourselves to push through discomfort, which is not great for the macro level. Another great video.

    • @EverythingIsPhotogenic
      @EverythingIsPhotogenic  3 года назад +4

      I don't think anyone ever really learns to master this intuitively. I know I will defy this throughout the summer because it's fun to play with your fitness when the weather is nice. The rest and recovery days we ignore because we are feeling good, or trying to draw the distinction between just not feeling like it because your boss pissed you off today and signs of overtraining. I don't think we ever really find that line between training to suffer and true counterproductive work, but we can try :)

    • @shelleynichols9626
      @shelleynichols9626 3 года назад

      @@EverythingIsPhotogenic So true. In the evening I might think, "Oof I'm tired. I should probably take it easy tomorrow." And then I have decent sleep and/or weather is great, and then it's, "Well, it's so gorgeous outside! I'll just go easy." And then you warm up and get those good chemicals going and...and... you know :) Also hope your knee is on the mend.

    • @Datagrl8888
      @Datagrl8888 3 года назад

      Where is this Strava fitness freshness visualization. ?

    • @shelleycline6660
      @shelleycline6660 3 года назад

      It’s part of Strava’s subscription service. $60/year. Pretty decent.

    • @Datagrl8888
      @Datagrl8888 3 года назад +1

      @@shelleycline6660 thank you. I found it in the full desktop version of the Strava interface. I don’t see it anywhere in the mobile app.

  • @drifting2c
    @drifting2c 2 года назад

    Super video. Thank you for providing such clear and consumable info on the topic.

  • @HCAqua
    @HCAqua 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you..thank you...thank you! Exactly what I needed to hear in trying to learn what the heck I was looking at.

  • @guruaiyar796
    @guruaiyar796 2 года назад

    Excellent explanation. I am training for Ironman 70.3 five months away and this is like pure GOLD. Kudos to you

  • @bradon99
    @bradon99 3 года назад

    That was very informative, and broken done nicely. Thanks.

  • @jamesperkins4798
    @jamesperkins4798 Год назад

    Such a Great Video! Thank you so much! This was really exceptionally helpful and so well explained!!

  • @gregoryedwards7807
    @gregoryedwards7807 3 года назад +1

    Your contents are awesome. When Dylan dropped his bombshell against TrainerRoad, I thought of a performance chart. I was like aren’t folks tracking their form? I use intervals.icu now. Its great tracker also.

  • @Kfkgjdkdkgk
    @Kfkgjdkdkgk 2 года назад

    This explication is AMAZING

  • @robtaylor3773
    @robtaylor3773 2 года назад

    Great video! Great info! Well done! RIDE ON!

  • @adityanathan
    @adityanathan 2 года назад

    Brilliant explanation.

  • @401SNelson
    @401SNelson 3 года назад

    Excellent explanation of a confusing topic for me!! You are AWESOME!!

  • @henryvalenzuela3946
    @henryvalenzuela3946 5 месяцев назад

    That was a great explanation! Thanks

  • @ZwiftingWithGranny
    @ZwiftingWithGranny 3 года назад

    I watched the beginning three times just to watch Kitten again. I'm sure he's absorbed quite a bit of information by this time and perhaps actually is your source of information but you're keeping it on the down low. No worries. It's between you and me. Just this morning I was thinking to myself, self? My TSS today was 187 but I wish I knew what that meant. Boom. I think it, Sarah makes a video on it. When I saw what the video was about, I was beside myself clutching my pearls. Very well explained. Good job Kitten...um, I mean Sarah.

    • @EverythingIsPhotogenic
      @EverythingIsPhotogenic  3 года назад +1

      Lol I love it. Kitten is the brains behind the operation. I call him my miracle son I adopted him after a very dark year and loved him from the first day I ran with his 2 pound self peeing because he hadn't learned where the litter box was (think baby boy peeing during a diaper change 🤣) his full name is Kitten McNugget but he doesn't like barbecue sauce, he prefers whitefish flavored treats 😎

  • @brianseastrom3156
    @brianseastrom3156 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks!

  • @natalienat7894
    @natalienat7894 3 года назад

    This the best explanation of cycling data I’ve come across so far 👍!! Keep up the great work 🌱

  • @gourami7
    @gourami7 3 года назад

    First time seeing this, excellent explanation and really helpful and a cat lover to boot !

    • @EverythingIsPhotogenic
      @EverythingIsPhotogenic  3 года назад +1

      😁 so far its useful! And the cats enjoy making regular appearances 🤣

  • @djheadcandy
    @djheadcandy 2 года назад

    This is by far the best explanation of training peaks i have come across THANKYOU SO MUCH! i have struggled so much over the last 6 months with over training and not knowing why and you explained how training peaks can tell me why perfectly.

  • @VicCampbell1
    @VicCampbell1 3 года назад +1

    Another brilliant video, Sarah. 👏👏👏
    Thank you 👍

  • @mkaufmann21
    @mkaufmann21 3 года назад

    Great way of explaining what I think is complicated numbers thank you for your input. This video has helped me alot.

  • @Zeddzdedd
    @Zeddzdedd 3 года назад

    Thank you for this. Well explained.

  • @davido4178
    @davido4178 2 года назад

    Very helpful video. THANKS 😊

  • @geoffwoods3653
    @geoffwoods3653 3 года назад +2

    Brilliant this really helped me understand TP data much better. Thanks and keep up the good work.👍

  • @jennifers9316
    @jennifers9316 9 месяцев назад

    Loving these!!

  • @harrygrey8825
    @harrygrey8825 3 года назад +2

    I’m cycling for fun and improved fitness. Skiing got waylaid by CVD, so I jumped into Zwift. 2 months in and now I can start to make sense of some of the data I’m seeing, on Zwift and Strava thanks to this video. This also explains why I was starting to sense some fatigue. Now I’m mixing in training , and and find my recovery much quicker. This video helps make better sense of it all. 😊

  • @ruicabral3415
    @ruicabral3415 3 года назад +1

    Theo best vídeo I saw lately! Thanks for the great explanation! 👏

  • @karlgommier9733
    @karlgommier9733 3 года назад

    That’s is the most informative and comprehensive explanation about stress fatigue building phase and fitness. That’s brilliant. Thanks you.

  • @quantumdecoherence1289
    @quantumdecoherence1289 11 месяцев назад

    Gold, right here.

  • @SumyBears
    @SumyBears 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for making sense of these numbers for me and giving me a sense of how to use them. Very much appreciated.

  • @bikermousefrommarz6739
    @bikermousefrommarz6739 Год назад

    Very helpful. Thank you

  • @davehollingworth5537
    @davehollingworth5537 2 года назад

    Thank You. This was really helpful.

  • @ezrunstrails
    @ezrunstrails 3 года назад

    Outstanding and thank you! As an aging ultra-runner, I can finally understand the crazy graph on my Training Peaks and adjust my workouts accordingly!

  • @paulmann38
    @paulmann38 3 года назад

    I just found this tonight. Finally!! Someone has explained these concepts to me so that I am able to understand them and understand the likely reason why my attempt to bring up my FTP last autumn was doomed to failure and resulted in a crash of motivation. I will make a new plan and look forward to getting the results I want. Thank you.

  • @nicofodderie4917
    @nicofodderie4917 11 месяцев назад

    This is a great video. Thanks !!!

  • @andyking8464
    @andyking8464 3 года назад

    Thank you for the best explanation of these metrics and their interactions that I've heard. I've read the Allan & Coggan book but your explanation id more accessible and better. Cheers.

  • @lilgalbi
    @lilgalbi 2 года назад

    Thank you so much for explaining this for all of us

  • @andycunningham2930
    @andycunningham2930 3 года назад

    Very good explanation, I get it now. I’ve had this with my swim, working really hard and going backwards, always feeling tired, now it all makes sense!

  • @stephanelouvet1113
    @stephanelouvet1113 3 года назад

    Very very good. I don't think we can explain it in a better way. Excellent ! :)

  • @jackiegerwitz-dunn4046
    @jackiegerwitz-dunn4046 3 года назад

    Excellent explanations of TSS, CTL, ATL, TSB etc. I love these metrics and how useful they are. It is easy to get lost in the weeds as I often do. Your videos are so helpful and clarifying. Thanks!

  • @jnatiw
    @jnatiw Год назад

    Great explanation, Sarah. I’ve been familiar with these concepts for a few years, but this really took it to another level for me. Thank you. 👍👊

  • @postman1228
    @postman1228 9 месяцев назад

    awesome info

  • @Jono01
    @Jono01 2 года назад

    Oh my goodness Sarah. I recently found your YT channel and I've been going through your videos. I only wish I found you sooner! As a beginner cyclist and just having done my first triathlon, this kind of information is so valuable. You have a knack for explaining concepts so clearly in an easy to understand manner. I've just joined your membership and look forward to learning more. Thank you.

  • @killac45
    @killac45 2 года назад

    Excelent video, very well explained. I use suunto which pulls this data from TP but didnt really understand some of the concepts.

  • @jeffhsu57
    @jeffhsu57 3 года назад

    This video is just so good that I had to applaud. So informational and helpful for a beginner cyclist who is exploring self training. There are many tools (Training Peaks, Strave etc) provides platform to store data but data themselves do not help much if I do not understand them well! Thank you Sarah! You rock again! I would love to see more videos about self training tips!!

  • @heredianos
    @heredianos Год назад

    Love the TTL hat 😊

  • @nikhilrajeshirke
    @nikhilrajeshirke 2 года назад

    Nice work

  • @bollard49
    @bollard49 Год назад

    Fantastic explanation. Like Einstein said, if you can't explain it so a 12 year olds understands it. You don't understand it your self

  • @thomaskranked562
    @thomaskranked562 3 года назад

    Great Stuff. Thanks a lot.

  • @TreyCoursey
    @TreyCoursey 3 года назад

    Such an amazing explanation! Great job....thank you, the community will be much better for understanding these things.

  • @bobinjc
    @bobinjc Год назад

    You helped me make sense of these values. Thank you! SA University rules!

    • @EverythingIsPhotogenic
      @EverythingIsPhotogenic  Год назад

      Awesome! Glad to hear it, they can certainly be abstract as you get into it!

    • @bobinjc
      @bobinjc Год назад

      @EverythingIsPhotogenic I just started using a power meter, and all the new numbers that come with it have my head spinning. Thanks to you, I now feel like I have a foothold to get started. Thanks again.

  • @siddardhab
    @siddardhab Год назад

    Your content is so good! Subscribing!

  • @MggW
    @MggW 3 года назад

    A really good explanation. Thanks.

  • @geopatriarca2820
    @geopatriarca2820 3 года назад

    Very sound advice! Your videos are a wealth of information. Thank you, Sarah!

  • @flahute23
    @flahute23 3 года назад

    great video.... thanks!!

  • @petergeorgariou99
    @petergeorgariou99 3 года назад

    Thank you so much Sarah! I love your personality 😀 and breaking down the stats in a digestible way. Much appreciated.

    • @EverythingIsPhotogenic
      @EverythingIsPhotogenic  3 года назад

      Thanks for the kind feedback! I am very happy that it helps. Sometimes this stuff just takes an explanation that isn't just text definitions with yet more acronyms and "jargony" terms 😉

    • @petergeorgariou99
      @petergeorgariou99 3 года назад

      ​@@EverythingIsPhotogenic I totally agree. I am recently started training for an Ironman next summer in Lake Placid. I've been doing distance running for a few years, but not really "training". More just going out there and running.
      So all the jargon and acronyms are next level. It does make feel like I'll soon be able to hang out with the cool kids and drop the lingo like it's nobody's business. 😁 Thanks for helping my cool factor.😂

  • @Ruben14Elias
    @Ruben14Elias 3 года назад

    Wow thank you for this learned so much!

  • @JoseLNazario
    @JoseLNazario 3 года назад

    Sarah, thank you very much for this excellent discussion about fitness, learned a lot!!!

  • @paulmcneil7468
    @paulmcneil7468 3 года назад

    What an incredible video. I learn so much from the way you present the information. Thank you for taking the time and effort to put this all together. This will definitely be a video I come back to for referrence.

  • @surfnewt2768
    @surfnewt2768 3 года назад

    Great video - excellent explanation

  • @ErrinV
    @ErrinV 3 года назад

    Perfect timing on this video. I'd just wrapped up a training program, then jumped into another one and quickly burned out. I have Today's Plan and I think with your insight from this video I could've seen that burnout coming and dialed back. Now I have a better idea of how to read the Load chart and not worry about second guessing the program schedule. As always, great videos!

    • @ErrinV
      @ErrinV 3 года назад

      @everything is photogenic I had one more question. How can you factor in, say outdoor rides, with no power meters into your load? Can you use HR to determine a ride's TSS or does that only come from a power meter?

    • @troycollett8540
      @troycollett8540 Год назад

      You going over to training peaks with todays plan closing ?

  • @annechinoralph5798
    @annechinoralph5798 3 года назад

    As always, great easy to understand information. I'll be utilizing this from now on to track how I'm doing and to hopefully stop myself from over training.

  • @BullHorn7
    @BullHorn7 Год назад

    This is very intuitive for runners and cyclists.
    How should this data be interpreted when running/cycling is combined with weight lifting?

  • @jliho1
    @jliho1 3 года назад

    Great video and information. Thank you! I'm subscribing.
    Greetings from Mexico City.

  • @ivanzurita4727
    @ivanzurita4727 Год назад

    Great explanation….. can I use an apple watch too?

  • @sirces9
    @sirces9 3 года назад

    You’re certainly a hidden jewel.

  • @benjaminbaticle4848
    @benjaminbaticle4848 3 года назад

    To get a free software to analyze all these, there is Nöliö, which is French. You only pay as an athlete if you want to create workouts or workout models (and you pay as a coach). They also include HRV tracking in association with Haptools. It works perfectly 🙂

  • @JoyJasonRides
    @JoyJasonRides 3 года назад

    Great and informative video!

  • @krilin84
    @krilin84 3 года назад +1

    Wow, what an amazing resource! I just signed up for the paid version of TP and am trying to figure out how to configure my ATP, and your video was immensely enlightening! I tried scanning through your videos but didn't find one on self coaching - have you made anything like that? If not I'd love to see it - preferably one that's based on using your fatigue, fitness and form stats as a guide! Many thanks

  • @Glutzie
    @Glutzie 3 года назад

    Nice! Never heard that broken down. I'm just a rider that does plans to get in shape to ride and have felt a bit over trained at times. So this was good. I have a feeling that my FTP is a bit high at times. Use to do the 20 minute tests with TR/sufferfest - don't miss them. Now I do the ramps and did my first Zwift ramp recently and it seems high for me as I'm just starting out again.

  • @blackhatultra
    @blackhatultra 3 года назад

    Thank you - this is awesome. My problem is that I have the same trainings uploaded into Suunto App and Training Peaks but the outcome is different. CTL, ATLS, TSB are different - although Suunto App is using Training Peaks algorythm.

    • @EverythingIsPhotogenic
      @EverythingIsPhotogenic  3 года назад +1

      I'm not super familiar with the Suunto app but sometimes that happens when your FTP is set differently in the two apps. It might be the same now but wasn't some time in the past. You might want to poke around on the desktop versions of both apps and compare data points to make sure that the TSS for your rides are the same on both. In TP you can go back and change an FTP and recalculate if that's the one that is off, not sure about Suunto. The other thing you could do is manually manipulate the TSS on the individual rides for the one that's off and change them to get them to match. Nothing wrong with doing that if you recognize that you had a data integrity problem at some point. Another option is that some programs start your fitness at 0 and others start it at a base rate that might be 40-60. Depending on how long you've been training, that might still be anchoring one of your numbers.
      This is not uncommon. Essentially you could just pick one and stick with it, but being a little OCD myself, I get wanting them to match 😉

    • @blackhatultra
      @blackhatultra 3 года назад

      @@EverythingIsPhotogenic Yes, for sure I start with Training Peaks at fitness level 0 and I wasn't at zero 0. Thanks! Will follow your guiding :)

    • @blackhatultra
      @blackhatultra 3 года назад

      @@EverythingIsPhotogenic BTW is there a way to set preliminary fitness level at TP?

    • @EverythingIsPhotogenic
      @EverythingIsPhotogenic  3 года назад

      @@blackhatultra yep but it is a little finicky. Go into TP on a computer. Click dashboard. Go down to the performance manager chart (there will probably be a peak power chart and graph and the PMC on the bottom). The chart will have it's own settings hamburger (3 lines) click that. It will open a pop up. What you will want to do is make sure the date range includes your starting date then the last section says "select parameters" on the right you will see boxes for CTL start and ATL start. You can manually edit those and hit "Recalculate TSS" it will update your current numbers. Make sure you leave the CTL and ATL constants as they are. Once you're done, hit apply and you should be able to go back and see new values. The change might not be drastic depending on how long ago it was, but it will change your overall chart.

    • @blackhatultra
      @blackhatultra 3 года назад

      @@EverythingIsPhotogenic Thanks. i found that TSS was hugely wrong. Now it looks very similar to what I have in Suunto app and I can plan my training and tapering before the next event! Thanks a lot -