The Portal Iceberg: Explained

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  • @accessiblefunky
    @accessiblefunky  3 года назад +1733

    ✔️ Thanks for watching! English Captions are now available! ✔️
    NOTE: I forgot to narrate an entry so here it is,
    In Case of Flooding, Seek Air Pockets: This entry refers to the signs found throughout Portal 2’s Test Shaft 09, where one should seek air pockets in case of flooding. These signs could be warning personnel about the gels and their potential to flood the facility. Flooding had been a potential issue due to the sheer amount of pipes and pumps that were found in the underground facilities. The pipes can be easily destroyed with mines so any explosions and the gels are toxic to the human body, so flooding would be a disastrous event for Aperture Science.

    • @lad6655
      @lad6655 3 года назад +11

      Thank you for correcting your mistakes!

    • @dededesgustingtkemylife4825
      @dededesgustingtkemylife4825 3 года назад +11

      objection, it may be a reference to how in most games, when theres an underwater part, there are air bubbles that let you breath

    • @sulphurous2656
      @sulphurous2656 3 года назад +14

      Flooding in general seems to be a common theme going around the facility in the wake of GLaDOS taking over as far as one can tell. Whether or not all of that goo, water, or whatever it is was originally there, if its toxic beyond imagination on its own or not is left unclear.

    • @nocturn9x
      @nocturn9x 3 года назад +4

      what the hell is going on at 31:01? lol

    • @CivilGun
      @CivilGun 3 года назад +1

      My question, What is canon on this iceberg.

  • @robinzegerman
    @robinzegerman 3 года назад +5946

    23:31 the fact that GLaDOS names 2 rules and doesnt finish the third fits the "valve cant count to 3" meme quite well

    • @iamalive1142
      @iamalive1142 3 года назад +176

      That makes sense now

    • @Ceblet
      @Ceblet 3 года назад +363

      I always thought the third rule was "Do not fire the portal device at the moon"

    • @nnikitov57
      @nnikitov57 3 года назад +42

      @@iamalive1142 Too early for that.

    • @conic2721
      @conic2721 3 года назад +103

      @@Ceblet Maybe it's "don't put a Portal up and one down on your feet, you will throw up"

    • @EpicGamer-fl7fn
      @EpicGamer-fl7fn 3 года назад +68

      @@conic2721 realistically speaking, i'd be more concerned about turning into a fuckin human smoothie if i'd fire one of the portals away so i would stop falling endlessly.

  • @foxxy-3748
    @foxxy-3748 3 года назад +4150

    There is a cut Wheatley line where he says “There’s a man with a briefcase who wanted to see you.” Which implies that G-Man was originally meant to have taken an interest in Chell.

    • @hdew12354
      @hdew12354 3 года назад +160

      yoo, that's crazy! do you have a source? thanks!

    • @foxxy-3748
      @foxxy-3748 3 года назад +618

      @@hdew12354 On page 331 of the Official Portal 2 Guide (made by Erik Wolpaw) he says, near the beginning of the game, Wheatley was meant to say a line something along the lines of
      “Nobody's been around for a while , but there's an old guy walking around with a briefcase looking for you.”
      While I can’t find an official source where you can read the guide yourself online, if you have the collector’s edition copy of the game it should’ve come with it.

    • @UntalentedBrick
      @UntalentedBrick 3 года назад +149

      @@foxxy-3748 if wheatley said that line _"Limitless Pontential"_ can happen with the story line.

    • @royliber3824
      @royliber3824 3 года назад +253

      @@UntalentedBrick Would be a cool easter egg if Wheatley would have said something like: "Together you and me have Limitless Potential... Heard a guy with a suit somewhere saying that."

    • @foxxy-3748
      @foxxy-3748 2 года назад +24

      @UCI9H2n6ITSoQDvZGt4LIoSw You got it all wrong unfortunately. Cave Johnson is who you’re thinking of, and he’s the now dead CEO of Aperture Science. The Desk Simulator is a prequel to the Portal games. G-Man is not someone we know about very firmly, but he is not Cave Johnson, as he looks nothing like him and sounds nothing like him.

  • @yourdoom9868
    @yourdoom9868 3 года назад +2744

    The interdimensional contract part was actually about a cut Wheatley dialogue where he says 'there is a man with a briefcase who wanted to see you'

    • @randomguythatlikeshorrorga9588
      @randomguythatlikeshorrorga9588 3 года назад +189

      When I hear briefcase I thought u talking about spy XD but anyway G-man exist in portal too and is canon I mean WHAT if wheatly talk about someone he really see?

    • @memedude8303
      @memedude8303 3 года назад +83

      @@randomguythatlikeshorrorga9588 but every tf2 character can carry the briefcase

    • @JoesLostSongs
      @JoesLostSongs 3 года назад +133

      @@randomguythatlikeshorrorga9588
      1: Any TF2 class can hold the Intel Case
      2: It's spelled two
      3: I had a stroke reading this

    • @dalek4463
      @dalek4463 3 года назад +3

      *O H*

    • @Stitchu27
      @Stitchu27 3 года назад +6

      Do you have a source for this?

  • @ZombieCowTTV
    @ZombieCowTTV 2 года назад +1202

    To be fair about the cake. When GLaDOS is no longer allowed to lie to you, she never said you would have cake. She said, "you will be baked, and then there will be cake." She never said the cake was for you.

    • @arafe.1012
      @arafe.1012 Год назад +46

      She literally said U'LL be baked
      As in torched alive

    • @nibulsheep8214
      @nibulsheep8214 Год назад +18

      Yeah i think her cores are forcing her to bake cakes, but she still manages to break through

    • @maface2247
      @maface2247 Год назад +7

      and at the fire scene in chamber 19 before you start to escape is you being baked for the cake

    • @hhhsp951
      @hhhsp951 11 месяцев назад +13

      turns out chell was just a stoner

    • @pixelatedsethtube1271
      @pixelatedsethtube1271 8 месяцев назад

      Chell also has a nice booty so the cake was with us all along too

  • @hyun2094
    @hyun2094 3 года назад +6152

    when the algorithm blessed you with a 40 minute portal video that’s fresh

    • @ShadowSearcher31
      @ShadowSearcher31 3 года назад +16

      I honestly didn’t realize how early I was

    • @TravisaInc
      @TravisaInc 3 года назад +5

      agreed

    • @jawsplayz
      @jawsplayz 3 года назад +2

      Golden Cheetah26 Same Here-

    • @nocturn9x
      @nocturn9x 3 года назад +2

      ikr?

    • @miguelmalvina5200
      @miguelmalvina5200 3 года назад +2

      is there a way to get to know more content like this ?

  • @MasterOfKnowledge.
    @MasterOfKnowledge. 3 года назад +3366

    I'm surprised the old "Chell is Cave Johnson's/Caroline's daughter" theory wasn't in here

    • @sud1881
      @sud1881 3 года назад +296

      It’s a well known fac- oh that should be there

    • @sulphurous2656
      @sulphurous2656 3 года назад +101

      Where would this favorite among fanfiction writers of old rank?

    • @sud1881
      @sud1881 3 года назад +130

      @@sulphurous2656 I see this theory being in the second layer

    • @MasterOfKnowledge.
      @MasterOfKnowledge. 3 года назад +71

      @@sulphurous2656 I agree with sudwap for the most part. Though I could see it anywhere from the first to third layers in general, just given how tame and (seemingly) widespread it is/was (assuming the latter is a factor in what goes in which part of the iceberg)

    • @ndricimhalili9793
      @ndricimhalili9793 3 года назад +112

      Well the song the turrets play in the end of Portal 2 is officially named "Cara mia addio!" which translates from Italian to "Goodbye my dear!".
      This semi-confirms that Chell is at least Caroline's daughter.

  • @13Yeared
    @13Yeared 3 года назад +1284

    When I was young, I interpreted the ending of Portal to be that you got turned into cake.
    When you were being led into the incinerator, Glados says "You will be baked, and then there will be cake." You escape the complex, get dragged back in, and then you're shown a cutscene with shelves full of cake, with one standing prominently in the center.

    • @poweringaccounttermination4026
      @poweringaccounttermination4026 3 года назад +213

      Thats kinda messed up lol

    • @SimonClarkstone
      @SimonClarkstone 3 года назад +224

      Originally at the end of Portal 1, you weren't dragged back in. That was a later addition to allow for Portal 2 to contain Chell.

    • @kappnk9821
      @kappnk9821 3 года назад +22

      The shelves don't have cake?

    • @simmy0019
      @simmy0019 3 года назад +67

      Don't the shelves show blank/offline personality cores?

    • @13Yeared
      @13Yeared 3 года назад +105

      @@simmy0019 they do but my blind ass thought it was cake for some reason

  • @isaacsenior8836
    @isaacsenior8836 2 года назад +309

    The third rule is actually in the files. It is "Most importantly, under no circumstances should you remove the device from the testing area"

    • @meteorname
      @meteorname Год назад +24

      Well that's boring...

    • @QuirkyMator
      @QuirkyMator 8 месяцев назад +15

      Foreshadowing for the part after chamber 19

  • @zkelethor1929
    @zkelethor1929 3 года назад +2758

    It just occurred to me that the companion cube might actually not contain dead bodies, but since it helped Rattman escape GlaDOS, and GlaDOS might have heard Rattman taking advice from the CC (despite the fact that it is just a regular cube) thus successfully evading GlaDOS' traps, she urged Chell to ignore it as well in fear that it might somehow help her escape.

    • @drake52
      @drake52 2 года назад +169

      That actually kinda makes sense

    • @andycruzatx3387
      @andycruzatx3387 2 года назад +153

      I saw it like , if you begin to hear voices , ignore them. You have gone crazy.

    • @UrbanTheIntrovert
      @UrbanTheIntrovert 2 года назад +37

      That's exactly what I was thinking. It's the most logical theory IMO

    • @Souphead.
      @Souphead. 2 года назад +95

      And the cube talking to him is just him going insane + him losing his pills, but I think the cube resembles his knowledge of the facility since he is a scientist and he has to know his way through the traps and the facility.

    • @RandomGuy0400
      @RandomGuy0400 2 года назад +29

      Well there's also the fact that you put the cube into something called an emergency intelligence incinerator... Implying that the cube is... Intelligent...

  • @wojtekpolska1013
    @wojtekpolska1013 3 года назад +504

    2 things:
    - Mel was also considered to be in coop mode alongside Chell, but they were replaced by robots since valve couldn't figure out how to explain respawning (if one robot dies the map doesn't reset since the other one is still alive. he just comes out of the tube at spawn)
    ‐ there is cut voiceline of caroline screaming "no! no! no!" which relates to her being put into AI against her will, but it was cut due to being too disturbing

    • @TeddyLeitner
      @TeddyLeitner 3 года назад +71

      I believe that audio was cut because JK Simmons (Cave Johnson) refused to record his lines, saying they sounded too much like a rape scene.

    • @quickdraw6591
      @quickdraw6591 3 года назад +70

      @@TeddyLeitner that's a rumot. It was denied numberus times

    • @TeddyLeitner
      @TeddyLeitner 3 года назад +8

      @@quickdraw6591 oh, thanks for letting me know

    • @quickdraw6591
      @quickdraw6591 3 года назад +3

      @@TeddyLeitner No problem😁👍

    • @wta1518
      @wta1518 3 года назад +24

      @@TeddyLeitner The lines were recorded. If you dig into the files for Portal 2 you can find them.

  • @dogwithcoke8370
    @dogwithcoke8370 3 года назад +1568

    He turned himself Into a crab, funniest shit I’ve ever seen.

    • @expendableindigo9639
      @expendableindigo9639 3 года назад +10

      It wasn’t even Wheatley either, just a random core.

    • @makinelimuhendis7367
      @makinelimuhendis7367 3 года назад +41

      Hahahahaha Wheatly crab

    • @venom6231
      @venom6231 3 года назад +4

      Ha ha h- wait is this the part where I'm supposed to luagh?

    • @AlexG32777
      @AlexG32777 3 года назад +3

      @@expendableindigo9639 actually it's a beta Wheatley

    • @Shadder2972
      @Shadder2972 3 года назад +2

      Oh now i see, Pickle Rick joke borns there

  • @kakorotskywalker
    @kakorotskywalker Год назад +277

    38:35 In programming, counting usually starts with 0 instead of 1. So if you have an array of 20 numbers, it'd be 0, 1, 2,... 19. And considering GLaDOS is an AI and she made those chambers, that could be a very possible reason.

  • @ohno3622
    @ohno3622 3 года назад +2057

    I played portal as a kid. Now I’m 3 weeks away from an electrical engineering degree and I’m working full time in research (including robotics research). This game really changed my life.

    • @yegorgribenuke6853
      @yegorgribenuke6853 3 года назад +197

      i hope the game teached you to not embed human contiousness in ai

    • @mrsubject1
      @mrsubject1 3 года назад +177

      Just please don't give your robots access to neurotoxin

    • @ruinenlust_
      @ruinenlust_ 3 года назад +14

      I now have a bachelor in AI, lol

    • @randomidoit9605
      @randomidoit9605 3 года назад +26

      Will you build robots that can give us 6 more seconds of cooperation than humans?

    • @krungsoulpogger9875
      @krungsoulpogger9875 3 года назад +6

      I hope don’t have ai that self aware

  • @popcornistorturedcorn
    @popcornistorturedcorn 3 года назад +784

    11:12 The fire that Prometheus stole was a metaphor for knowledge actually.

    • @krodmandoon3479
      @krodmandoon3479 3 года назад +124

      Yeah, that was a real smooth-brained take on his part.

    • @thephoenixsystem6765
      @thephoenixsystem6765 3 года назад +15

      And the sky is the same colour as the sea.
      COINCIDENCE? I THINK THAT'S HOW YOU SPELL THAT

    • @laurenoptified1701
      @laurenoptified1701 3 года назад +3

      oh my god he's technoblade

    • @HokeyBugle
      @HokeyBugle 3 года назад +8

      @Cameron Betton yes, that's what makes it a metaphor lol

    • @lifeiscats1337
      @lifeiscats1337 Год назад

      Uhh no?! Zeus literally set upon an ice age and took away their fire privileges. 💀 Have you even read the original passages?

  • @dmitrysukhoy2119
    @dmitrysukhoy2119 3 года назад +312

    23:31 In the russian version of Portal the third rule is revealed: "Under no circumstances should the device be taken out of the laboratory". This may explain the final sequence of Portal Stories: Mel mod where Mel is forced to destroy the portal device before escaping

    • @hooman1439
      @hooman1439 2 года назад +11

      This may explain why Glados didn't say this rule in english. Humans were not going to exit the facilities anyways.

    • @manhvu4988
      @manhvu4988 2 года назад +2

      basically glados doesn't want chell to leave the enrichment center

  • @fluffyloo9025
    @fluffyloo9025 2 года назад +379

    For the cake core, it goes in 5 stages. The first stage is cake recipes like "1 cup semi sweet chocolate chips " The second stage is when it talks about the fish shaped items like " fish shaped crackers" and "fish shaped solid waste" The third stage is when he talks about random dangerous items like "unsaturated polyester resin" and "An entry on how to kill someone with your bare hands" The fourth stage is when he talks about rhubarb like "one tablespoon of all purpose rhubarb " The last stage is how to preserve a dead body.

    • @randomtexanguy9563
      @randomtexanguy9563 Год назад +52

      Stage 1: Cake Core
      Stage 2: Fish-Shaped Item Core
      Stage 3: Random Danger Core
      Stage 4: Rhubarb Core
      Stage 5: Corpse Preservation Core
      Seeing as it knows all of this, let's just call it by it's real name, the Intelligence Core.

    • @craycraywolf6726
      @craycraywolf6726 Год назад +4

      Doesn't make it any less creepy...

  • @Resecupss
    @Resecupss 3 года назад +621

    Now THIS is a game that deserves an iceburg

    • @CommissarChaotic
      @CommissarChaotic 3 года назад +10

      The Borealis

    • @bruhbruhbruh8905
      @bruhbruhbruh8905 3 года назад +22

      Iceburger

    • @dudeonlygamingandotherstuf7791
      @dudeonlygamingandotherstuf7791 3 года назад +1

      @@CommissarChaotic Hunt down the Borealis.

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 3 года назад

      gotta ride a hearted comment here, the companion cube is more than "hinted" at being alive, GLaDOS in that P2 test chamber literally says "they are sentient of course, we just have a lot of them"

    • @omegaotaku1342
      @omegaotaku1342 3 года назад

      are you suggesting most other games don't deserve icebergs?

  • @vizzysfizzys
    @vizzysfizzys 2 года назад +727

    adding on the “everything is sentient” bit, in portal 2, there are some panels with a red light instead of blue, and seem to be *visibly* upset about not knowing how to fit into the hole they are meant to be in and seem to trash around at other panels.

    • @bluetechno6056
      @bluetechno6056 2 года назад +132

      my favourite is the one panel thats playing around with a cube and another panel is getting super angry and telling the first panel to stop

    • @kingofstrangeness7014
      @kingofstrangeness7014 2 года назад +15

      @@bluetechno6056 where

    • @Helios8170
      @Helios8170 Год назад +38

      Oh they absolutely are. I don't remember where I heard it, but they put a personality construct in *everything*.

    • @livingcorpse349
      @livingcorpse349 9 месяцев назад

      Makes me wonder if it’s the same AI like Glados and that panel was a person or something, highly doubtful, but there’s a horrific idea for you

  • @busterbunny005
    @busterbunny005 3 года назад +443

    23:48 Actually in Russian translation GLaDOS dialogue doesn't cut off and she just warns to not take portal gun outside of the facility

    • @SK-by6qd
      @SK-by6qd 3 года назад +27

      This, as well as an unused subtitle that says a similar thing.

    • @AELmattex
      @AELmattex 3 года назад +22

      Yeah, but that's unreasonable because even if you take the portal you out of the facility, you can't shoot to anything since anything in the surface is made with moon's rocks

    • @ashurean
      @ashurean 3 года назад +7

      Some part of me privately hoped it was "do not put any organic material through the portal"

    • @ashurean
      @ashurean 3 года назад +19

      or "do not take any bread through the portal" which would've been a funny nod to the tumor-bread teleporters from tf2

    • @madkirk7431
      @madkirk7431 3 года назад

      Nah imma do it anyways

  • @realtechhacks
    @realtechhacks 2 года назад +1045

    "Maybe GLaDOS viewed human cloning unethical" Yeah, sure, GLaDOS cares about ethics soooooo much. Keeping humans in a vault is also sooo ethical.

    • @shuheihisagi6689
      @shuheihisagi6689 2 года назад +85

      Yeah, its probably more likely that clones are just not as effective test as subjects.

    • @wigwumpwormwood
      @wigwumpwormwood 2 года назад +66

      It might just be that since clones are pretty much endlessly replaceable, watching them die stopped being entertainment for GLaDoS since the death doesn't last.

    • @arafe.1012
      @arafe.1012 Год назад +14

      Or cloning wasn't fully developed. Seems like the most likely answer if cloning does exist

    • @fluffy_knight
      @fluffy_knight Год назад +7

      Well she has a morality core... so anything she does must be testing.

    • @evanmak7837
      @evanmak7837 Год назад +5

      Remember, for her to actually go ahead and start attacking Chell directly she needed her morality core to be destroyed. It was the only thing holding her back.
      She may be a dangerous phychopathic AI, but in the first game she was strictly programmed to do nothing but testing, no matter her emotions. I like to think of her as a depressed brain, locking everything, being passive aggresive and insulting and simply letting time pass doing nothing.
      I think the only time we get the "pure" version of Glados's emotions is the second game after the potato transfer. And of course how corrupted the AIs attached to central control can become.

  • @Noodelzmop
    @Noodelzmop 3 года назад +674

    The whole "they have to incinerate the companion cube instead of emancipating it because blah blah dead body" is stupid because GLaDOS emancipates the companion cube SEVERAL times in portal 2

    • @BlownOutSpeakers
      @BlownOutSpeakers 3 года назад +74

      I don't agree with the theory about the dead bodies, but those cubes are visibly different. Perhaps they didn't need to store bodies in them for weight, but still wanted companion cubes for testing.

    • @jamesg6660
      @jamesg6660 3 года назад +219

      The most blatant contradiction to the whole theory is that in the Ratman Comic, the companion cube tells Ratman to not take his medication because if he does, it won't be able to talk to him anymore, because his schizophrenic hallucinations will go away. Honestly, the whole theory is dumb, and just seems to be a matter of people not understanding the psychological aspect to the companion cubes, with how the test subjects go crazy & get emotionally attached to them due to their lonliness & isolation. People taking GLADoS's lines and the fratricide achievement literally is just dumb, it kills the interesting psychological implications of the companion cubes.

    • @xweert711
      @xweert711 3 года назад +36

      @@jamesg6660 Yeah, it's an incredibly stupid theory.

    • @jamesg6660
      @jamesg6660 3 года назад +45

      ​@Matix 777 That whole "intelligence" thing is a real stretch. It's just part of the running gag in Portal that Aperture gives the stuff they make absurd names. If anything, it just affirms the idea that Aperture--and by extention GLADoS, is just purposefully screws with the subjects heads. They are psychologically testing the subjects, after all. There's a reason they called the cube the "companion cube" and purposefully taint subjects by making them think it might talk to them, and might be sentiant. The theory just annoys me, because the writers were very obviously trying to get across one thing (the psychological testing the subjects are endured to), whereas the theory just makes it seem like everyone either ignores it or doesn't get it. Instead people opt to pull the whole "let's come up with a way to interpret things in a way the writers clearly didn't intend" thing. I just don't like that. That's just me though. If you like the theory, more power to you.

    • @kyaing9047
      @kyaing9047 3 года назад +32

      @@xweert711 Matpat is known for braindead theories. He tries to show that Pyro is a gay man by comparing finger lengths. How is that related to sexuality, who knows.

  • @blitzkriiegi1005
    @blitzkriiegi1005 3 года назад +471

    The thought of Rattman being there with you watching as you do these tests is both scary but also comforting. Like, the felling of being watched when seemingly no one else is there, but at the same time, its comforting knowing theres another human there too, and youre not alone with GladOS

    • @ryanwillis2513
      @ryanwillis2513 2 года назад +21

      Playing the game and looking up at the empty offices expecting to see someone staring at you is very scary.

    • @mclijah6472
      @mclijah6472 2 года назад +7

      @@ryanwillis2513 omg yes, especially since half-life has g-man following you around in chambers that look similar to portal. as a kid, let's plays were the only exposure I had to Valve's games, but g-man following you around scared me so bad

    • @wastingsun
      @wastingsun 2 года назад +2

      This...this is just Bruno Madrigal from Encanto. Huh. Weirdly lines up perfect.

    • @mrsquid_
      @mrsquid_ 2 года назад +1

      @@ryanwillis2513 yeah

  • @jamesg6660
    @jamesg6660 3 года назад +384

    Honestly, the "companion cubes have dead bodies in them" theory always seemed dumb to me. It just seems like it's people who can't seem to grasp the actual point of of the game treating companion cubes like they're living objects that can talk, namely that they're a way of showing how the test subjects get so lonely during testing that they get emotionally attatched to their companion cube, and are taking everything that the games say about them overly literally. It's also directly contradicted by the Ratman comic, since the companion cube wants Ratman to not take his medicine specifically because he can only talk to it due to his schizophenia, and getting "better" will stop him being able to talk to it. Never understood why this theory is so popular to be honest, it's not only blatantly untrue, and contradicted by the Ratman comic, it just seems weird that people feel the need to make theories to explain away things that already have rational, canon explanations. People taking GLADoS's lines and the fratricide achievement literally is just dumb, it kills the entire point.

    • @SnakeOcelot
      @SnakeOcelot 3 года назад +31

      I think that these types of theories, that seem true at first glance but ultimately aren't, are liked just because they are entertaining. MatPat explained this when he talked about his theories, saying that what's important is not how credible one theory is, but how much interesting and entertaining can be, how much it can make you think "What if it's real?" and make you doing research by yourself. Well, obviously people who just defend crappy theories passing them off as unquestionably true exist too, but I don't think that they are part of the majority who talks about the "companions cube have dead bodies in them" theory or other ones like that.

    • @jamesg6660
      @jamesg6660 3 года назад +37

      @@SnakeOcelot Sure, there's nothing wrong with thinking about theories for the hell of it. The problem comes when the theory becomes so popular that people either take it as gospel, or it gets spread around so much that people, particularly non-fans who only know about the series casually, start mistaking it for canon. Or, alternatively, when the theories are actually detrimental, because they take away what makes the writing so ingenious in the first place, by sweeping away any deeper meaning that the writiers were clearly going for, with dumb alternative explanations that aren't anywhere near as interesting or clever. The last of those is what the companion cube theory does, which is why I have a problem with it. Majora's Mask, too, has all but been ruined, pop' culture wise, by that kind of thing. Majora's Mask is a great and dark game, because of what the developers put into it and the content in the game itself, not because of Ben Drowned, or the dumb "Link is dead" theories.

    • @SnakeOcelot
      @SnakeOcelot 3 года назад +7

      @@jamesg6660 Well, while I agree on the first point you made (taking some theories as absolutely true even if they aren't), I have to disagree on your second point. In my opinion, if a theory is made just for fun (like most of MatPat's theories) or for the purpose of telling a story (like creepypastas), it doesn't matter if it does not cover the real message of the game and his poetry. That's wrong if it's an interpretation, an analysis or a review of said game, but if we are talking about speculating, I think everyone should be allowed to come up with everything they'd like and then it's up to you to choose if you want to believe it. Also I don't think this could ruin a game, because it's more likely that there are more people who understand the game's hidden meaning than those who don't.

    • @heronnasser6869
      @heronnasser6869 3 года назад +17

      I agree. When I first saw the theory on Matpat's channel I've felt weirdly annoyed as I usually don't care about stuff like this. But the arguments were so dumb that I couldn't believe people were taking it seriously.

    • @chloekoalabear1412
      @chloekoalabear1412 3 года назад +5

      I'm not as familiar with the timeline as I used to be but I remember thinking that it would be more likely that the cubes were sentient as a result of testing. We know that cave wanted to put someone in an AI, what's the chances that he practiced by putting consciousness into the cubes. To me that makes more sense to me than them being made of dead people

  • @amymanen5699
    @amymanen5699 2 года назад +213

    21:40 All I know, is that 15 year old me was thrilled when she looked through the portal and saw someone that looked like her.

  • @technicalsock2465
    @technicalsock2465 3 года назад +1351

    Everyone's asking where is Chell
    But no one's asking how's Chell

    • @siggeletut856
      @siggeletut856 3 года назад +23

      cause it's kinda hard not knowing where she is

    • @felinriflemendino8421
      @felinriflemendino8421 3 года назад +6

      Well, she still alive

    • @TimoIvvie
      @TimoIvvie 3 года назад +6

      Pretty good chillin with her companion cube that experienced fratricide.

    • @akaka6377
      @akaka6377 3 года назад +18

      @Old Acc She's selectively mute, maybe she'd answer if asked politely lol

    • @sulphurous2656
      @sulphurous2656 3 года назад +3

      Some questions are perhaps best left to our imagination.

  • @profdracko
    @profdracko 3 года назад +171

    Re: the cubes having dead bodies inside, in Lego Dimensions Portal pack, sometimes breaking cubes has a chance for bones to fall out.

    • @sunbirth4795
      @sunbirth4795 2 года назад +7

      that pack also has Cave Johnson trapped in a core!

  • @strongblade
    @strongblade 3 года назад +258

    The Cake is Real: GLaDOS never specifically lies about giving you (Chell) cake. Her line is "First you will be baked, then there will be cake." She never suggests she is offering any cake to Chell. Just that there will be cake afterwards. It's only after you escape being baked that GLaDOS resorts to lies and bribery.

    • @dudeonlygamingandotherstuf7791
      @dudeonlygamingandotherstuf7791 3 года назад +16

      If you no burn, no cake for u.
      Basically

    • @wta1518
      @wta1518 3 года назад +5

      Another thing is that the fire may not necessarily be intended to kill you, it may just be a prank. Remember: all Aperture technologies remain safely operational up to 4000 Kelvin.

    • @ali_m_
      @ali_m_ 3 года назад +15

      @@wta1518 chell is not something created by aperture

    • @juanausensi499
      @juanausensi499 3 года назад +3

      @@wta1518 And if you don't scape the fire trap, you do die.

    • @Acheronpanda
      @Acheronpanda 3 года назад +4

      @@ali_m_ Chell is theorised to be the daughter of Caroline and Cave Johnson, who work at Aperture, meaning she's created by Aperture and therefore is fireproof.

  • @mimicer6877
    @mimicer6877 2 года назад +160

    The third portal rule may or may not be "do not shoot at the moon". Since I don't think aperture science went around telling everyone that the conductor for portals were moonrocks, so it would make a lot of sense for them to warn the testers. The only real plothole to this theory is the fact that there aren't many scenarios where a moon would be present, also the fact that Cave Johnson talks about moonrocks on the speakers.

    • @SuperCakeKing
      @SuperCakeKing Год назад +22

      moon rocks were used for the gel. and the third rule was do not take the gun outside the testing chambers. so your theory is right but off by a few hairs

    • @abritnamedsethinnit
      @abritnamedsethinnit Год назад +4

      Or maybe do not shoot at the sun.

  • @amalayperson7208
    @amalayperson7208 3 года назад +382

    I heard somewhere that the reason why the announcer glitches when Chell wakes up the second time is because the announcer is always tracking how long she had slept and since she had slept for so long, the track number had maxed out causing the announcer to glitch.

    • @jeebus9118
      @jeebus9118 3 года назад +55

      I like to think that the counter maxes out at 50 because they’re only required to be woken up every 50 days

    • @generalcodsworth4417
      @generalcodsworth4417 2 года назад +65

      it is very likely an overflow error. It was all prerecorded, so if it doesn't have, say, "ninety" as a voice file, then it would need to say "nine. zero." instead, and ninehundred ninety nine would become "nine. nine. nine." and so on

    • @ElysiumGD
      @ElysiumGD 2 года назад +17

      Well I believe that Chell had outlived humanity itself in that sleep, given the dilapidation of the facility, and also given that the announcer kept repeating 'NINE' about 7 times already before glitching out...

    • @MarioChamuty
      @MarioChamuty 2 года назад +5

      @@ElysiumGD 55times*

    • @ElysiumGD
      @ElysiumGD 2 года назад +7

      @@MarioChamuty Yes but 7 times BEFORE the audio glitches out...

  • @UnsightlyMuse
    @UnsightlyMuse 3 года назад +750

    God, this makes me happy. Portal content in 2021.

    • @npc6817
      @npc6817 3 года назад +21

      Have some better news: the pirtal reloaded mod (the one with time traveling portals) is releasing in a couple weeks

    • @luisbravo5452
      @luisbravo5452 3 года назад +1

      ​@@npc6817 i can´t wait

    • @Guremien
      @Guremien 3 года назад +7

      Still my favourite game and universe. I've been choosing clothes today to make my kinda coplayish outfit, which I intent to wear in May. I listen to game sountracks' remixes and ambience everyday as a background music🧡💙

    • @siliasporter4424
      @siliasporter4424 3 года назад +2

      @@npc6817 its released now!

    • @npc6817
      @npc6817 3 года назад

      @@siliasporter4424 !myes! I DON'T GET IT THO!

  • @carljones4179
    @carljones4179 3 года назад +170

    Also on the Prometheus side of things, he relived being eaten every day, and Glados talks about reliving the moment she was killed over and over again after you kill her, so it seems to have more to it

  • @alterranlongbow5067
    @alterranlongbow5067 2 года назад +203

    4:20 a quick correction, AEGIS was attempting to destroy the enrichment center to kill GLaDOS before she could reactivate, as it had determined her to be the cause of death for all the employees it was created to protect. In the ending cutscene, after Mel had prevented this course of action in her escape, it awakens test subject 001, Chell starting the events of Portal 2
    32:55 an alternate theory to this i prefer is the Moron Theory, which I found through a video by Leadhead. They describe that the incompetence of Cave Johnson unintentionally saved the human race by failing to market Aperture's inventions. The reason the Combine didn't simply wipe out the human race is because some were on the brink of inventing short range teleportation, a technology which the Combine planned to reverse engineer once they had succeeded, completely unaware this advancement had been made over 60 years ago in Aperture. Cave's insistence on testing the device instead of selling it meant that after the collapse of aperture, there wasn't really anyone left alive who even knew they had even tried to invent the portal gun.

    • @nibulsheep8214
      @nibulsheep8214 Год назад +1

      Never have i made this connection, insane

  • @lepidusflos
    @lepidusflos 3 года назад +608

    As someone who's still VERY much into Portal, seeing a fresh video from a few months ago brings me alot of joy knowing people are still interested in the franchise.

    • @literallymemoviesenjoyer
      @literallymemoviesenjoyer 2 года назад +9

      source games will never die

    • @hanieldoops3551
      @hanieldoops3551 2 года назад +3

      same man

    • @AwesomenessViolet
      @AwesomenessViolet 2 года назад +2

      Same

    • @skye.illustrates
      @skye.illustrates Год назад +4

      Got the opportunity to finally play Portal 1 and 2 this past week, and it’s so cool to see the fandom is still alive despite the first game being almost 16 years old.

    • @malarialemon7478
      @malarialemon7478 Год назад +1

      I just bought the games last weekend and beat the games over this last week and I'm also happy there's still people talking about portal, i was really late to the party but at least the fan base is still active

  • @Dangermad
    @Dangermad 3 года назад +550

    I believe that GLaDOS baked that cake purely out of spite.

    • @atomicdreamz6035
      @atomicdreamz6035 3 года назад +60

      That's so in character that I choose to accept it as canon. She really _is_ just that petty.

    • @vincentcampbell8314
      @vincentcampbell8314 3 года назад +3

      She would be that petty

    • @meowhello1845
      @meowhello1845 3 года назад +2

      i think it is true

    • @largeboi4678
      @largeboi4678 3 года назад +2

      @Matix 777 that would be an old cake, maybe it has a ton of preservatives packed into it! I mean, considering what Aperture was involved with, it would be way less problematic than what they’re used to

  • @Soundwave11037
    @Soundwave11037 3 года назад +537

    "I've turned myself into a crab, Chell, I'm crab Wheatley"

    • @defectivetoaster
      @defectivetoaster 3 года назад +17

      *Wheatley crab

    • @harioschtroliki
      @harioschtroliki 3 года назад +33

      I kid you not. He turns himself into a crab, funniest shit I've ever seen

    • @BriefAnger
      @BriefAnger 3 года назад +6

      Ah, ah, Wheatley, WHEATley chrahb, Wheatley chrahb, ha ha ha ha ha ha, Wheatley chrav

    • @gordonfreeman6014
      @gordonfreeman6014 3 года назад

    • @JakeWolven
      @JakeWolven 2 года назад

      Pickle rickkk

  • @HoriaM29
    @HoriaM29 2 года назад +56

    38:05 It's because GLaDOS is, at the end of the day, a computer. And computers start counting from 0 instead of 1. There are 20 chambers, as its supposed to; it's just that the numbering system GLaDOS uses is different from the one we humans would use.

    • @moonkey2712
      @moonkey2712 8 месяцев назад +1

      At the end of the first one, when you are fighting her, she says "two plus two is ... Uh... 10... IN BASE FOUR!"
      which is correct.

  • @fulcrum2867
    @fulcrum2867 3 года назад +198

    The Portal expansion for Lego Dimensions can be considered loosely canon, in which there is a early version of a Core that Cave put himself into, along with a room full of black mesa boxes

    • @expendableindigo9639
      @expendableindigo9639 3 года назад +15

      Damn really? Lego gotta be hiding the good stuff in defunct toys-to-life games.

    • @wta1518
      @wta1518 3 года назад +10

      No, the Lego Dimensions part is non-canon. Perhaps it IS canon in the multiverse though....

    • @mooncherrie
      @mooncherrie 3 года назад +2

      Ratman also appears on the game but hides when you to his direction or runs

    • @expendableindigo9639
      @expendableindigo9639 3 года назад

      @@mooncherrie source? Never heard of that?

    • @expendableindigo9639
      @expendableindigo9639 3 года назад

      @@mooncherrie oh you mean in Lego Dimensions?

  • @wojtekpolska1013
    @wojtekpolska1013 3 года назад +147

    37:25 yes the person in red bikini is Cave Johnson 100%

    • @wta1518
      @wta1518 3 года назад +9

      Hey, you don't know about Cave's clothing choices you bigot.
      (disclaimer: this is a joke)

  • @QrazyQuarian
    @QrazyQuarian 3 года назад +271

    I listened to a panel discussion once, where the creators talked about a Morgan Freeman core. In a test chamber, you would discover a room where this core was sitting on a pedestal. He had spent all of that time creating a philosophy about the room which he was in. As the player picks this core up and he sees the room from a different angle, he begins to challenge his assertions about the philosophy of the room. And then, when the player takes the core out of the room, is notions about reality are completely shattered and he becomes extremely depressed. It sounded like a hilarious idea, and I'm kind of sad that they cut it.

    • @valhatan3907
      @valhatan3907 2 года назад +30

      Sounds like the cave allegory.
      It was really an interesting idea, I wonder why they cut it

  • @MaverickJeyKidding
    @MaverickJeyKidding 2 года назад +170

    27:38 - never have a thought about Aperture Science testing their portal gun ever crossed my mind. From the very first trailer to the very first minutes in the game i automatically assumed they are testing the test subjects themselves to see who is creative enough to pass all the chambers. Am i the only one to think this way?

    • @gaborgalda5404
      @gaborgalda5404 2 года назад +54

      That was surprising for me too. I have always thought that it was the test subjects that are put into test, not the gun, I think it is absolutely obvious. Like, the gun already works perfectly, and naturally as a technologically groundbreaking device that manipulates physics, it is tested how humans can use it, how humans can utilise it. The only thing to test on the portal gun is... if it can shoot portals correctly and if said portals can work correctly. There is no need for 19+ test chambers for such test. The chambers are designed to test human creativity, logic etc., with obstacles deadly to humans...

    • @juiceoverflow
      @juiceoverflow Год назад +22

      The moron theory video touches on this positing that Cave Johnson was too stupid to realize how groundbreaking the technology was and just kept working to refine it to some impossible standard until it eventually got forgotten about along with the rest of aperture

    • @boy_with_sleeveless_jacket7951
      @boy_with_sleeveless_jacket7951 Год назад +7

      I always did wondered what exactly aperture was trying to test on.

    • @nibulsheep8214
      @nibulsheep8214 Год назад +7

      Portal 1 GLaDOS probably tests compusilvely, since she is shackled by her cores and it's hardwired into the system. But in portal 2 she probably just test the humans themselves

    • @Thumb_
      @Thumb_ 3 месяца назад

      The Portal Gun was ready but it is revealed in Portal 2 that GLaDOS just doesn’t care and just wants to test as it is hardwired into her system.

  • @SimonClarkstone
    @SimonClarkstone 3 года назад +192

    This iceberg is missing "I don't want this mister Johnson", the cut voice lines of Caroline being turned into GLaDOS against her will. Those lines later appeared in the unofficial Portal Musical.

    • @тоска-р1о
      @тоска-р1о 3 года назад +25

      I am very surprised this chart did not cover the cut voicelines at all. I heard they kept those cut because Cave Johnson's VA (JK Simmons) did not want to portray such a dark story, and even go as far as a form of 'rape,' or assault or molestation, on what level I don't really know, if physical or the taking of a living humans consciousness is that, or maybe have it sound like those things. So hes lines cannot be found in response. Though, I think some pointed out in places discussing this, ironically JK Simmons has done 'rapey' deeply uncomfortable characters before in the show Oz. Maybe he didn't want to do that before the show and have that association, maybe he didn't think it worked for the character or story line changes occurred before his own recordings and Caroline's voice work was just some basis. speculation though.

    • @largeboi4678
      @largeboi4678 3 года назад +12

      @@тоска-р1о wait, JK Simmons was Cave Johnson?! Isn’t JK Simmons the guy played Jonah Jameson in the Spider-Man Raimi Trilogy?!

    • @chumbucket3475
      @chumbucket3475 3 года назад +4

      @Large Boi
      Yep!

    • @largeboi4678
      @largeboi4678 3 года назад +12

      @@chumbucket3475 jeez, All the media I like has something to do with JK Simmons

    • @ThePowerofCutleries
      @ThePowerofCutleries 3 года назад +23

      @@largeboi4678
      Ah, good ol' Aperture, merchants of shower curtains, creators of incredible state-of-the-art scientific devices, and avid hunters of pictures of Spider-Man.

  • @SinfulCreature
    @SinfulCreature 3 года назад +78

    14:48
    "She was a lot like you, maybe not quite as heavy; now little Caroline is in here, too."
    This line implies either GLaDOS separates their identity from Caroline's own, that GLaDOS is more than one consciousness that share their metal frame, or that this line is being spoken from another perspective that is not GLaDOS's own.

  • @wojtekpolska1013
    @wojtekpolska1013 3 года назад +89

    Interesting: If at the end of Portal 1 before the boss fight you noclip (or glith with portals) into the room with cake, you can put the nearby cube on the cake, so when you end the game the arm won't be able to extinguish the cake, and you'll see the arm stuck on the cube untill u leave the game

  • @pakki2006
    @pakki2006 Год назад +53

    I'm surprised this iceberg didn't contain the 'Chell is Cave Johnson's daughter' theory. If you didn't know, there's a really popular (or, as far as I know), theory that has to do with the 'Bring your daughter to work day' section in Portal 2. The one with the potato and portal has 'Chell' written on it, as well as something about using 'dad's technology' if I recall correctly. The theory goes that Chell is a test subject because of that Bring your daughter to work day, and that 'dad's technology' is referring to Cave Johnson's portal technology. (Yes, I am aware he didn't invent it.)

    • @vegangummybearz.
      @vegangummybearz. 9 месяцев назад +5

      chell is confirmed to be brazillian and japaneese, it wouldn't make sense for cave to be her dad considering he's white

    • @kavishbansal
      @kavishbansal 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@vegangummybearz.But Chell is adopted, so it could be that Cave Johnson adopted her.

  • @marsmurderer9868
    @marsmurderer9868 3 года назад +231

    "The cake is real" I thought it was pretty obvious that the cake was real, and made of humans. "You will be baked, and then there will be cake." And at the end of the game GLaDOS tries to burn you to death. Mel says the cake is a lie because you won't be getting it

    • @theneoreformationist
      @theneoreformationist 3 года назад +13

      That doesn't mean you are the cake. You will be baked. And then there will be cake.

    • @danielthecake8617
      @danielthecake8617 3 года назад +3

      Baked. Cake.
      This person is genius

    • @scientificthesis
      @scientificthesis 3 года назад +4

      This ties everything up. Best theory

    • @justinturner653
      @justinturner653 3 года назад +20

      GLaDOS can't technically lie outright about anything directly related to the tests. That was her clever way of not lying about the cake. If the cake exists somewhere in the facility, then "you will be baked, and there will be cake" is a completely true statement.

  • @jolo8224
    @jolo8224 3 года назад +529

    Does anyone else find it creepy knowing that canonically, there’s a guy behind the scenes watching you for the duration of Portal? Even if he’s a good guy, the feeling of being watched is haunting.

    • @conic2721
      @conic2721 3 года назад +29

      I mean.
      Cameras.

    • @jolo8224
      @jolo8224 3 года назад +116

      @@conic2721
      Yeah, but GLaDOS isn’t human, and it’s made obvious that she’s observing your performance for test results. Rattmann is a creepy stalker guy who hides in the shadows and never reveals himself

    • @jolo8224
      @jolo8224 3 года назад +64

      @@conic2721 If the test chambers weren’t falling apart, we wouldn’t have even known he was watching us, haha

    • @silent-hills
      @silent-hills 3 года назад +76

      Yeah, now that you mention it, it’s actually really creepy. I especially felt creeped out when you can hear his rambling if you’re near a wall in one of his dens in the second game... I was 8 and I RAN out of that room lmao

    • @TheAmazingHerosquad
      @TheAmazingHerosquad 3 года назад +5

      I think that's the point

  • @xhag1x
    @xhag1x 3 года назад +162

    I think the thing i find most fascinating about portal is the entire facility is completely modular. Making new rooms at a whim for any purpose needed

  • @bradley6676
    @bradley6676 2 года назад +48

    Chell sleeping for 60,000 years would be such a dark theory. If it’s true, it means humanity could possibly have been wiped out and Chell being released after portal 2 would have just had her live in an even lonelier world.

    • @sc3961
      @sc3961 6 месяцев назад +3

      Wouldn't it be cool if--, when combined with other theories (like the one where Wheatley has a bit of dialogue cut from the script of the game where he mentions "the man with the suitcase", maybe mixed with the entire "Main writer for Portal says he has a great starting point for Portal 3 if they ever decide to make it" news debacle last year) ... wouldntItBeCool iiif - Chell WERE actually noticed by GMan (when she's, of course, one of the only people alive after 60000 years) and the Portal/Half Life story continues to be told with Freeman/Chell working together to tell some crazy "Half Life 3 + Portal 3" story? Maybe even with time travel mixed in (that GMan (and his "Employers") can offer), with some great back-and-forth, contrasting and interwoven shots and scenes of the two protagonists. Ah man. Imagine the loose ends they could tie, the amount of lore they could dump, and the "cant count to 3" Valve myth to finally be GLORIOUSLY busted. The dream.

    • @Quantum_64
      @Quantum_64 4 месяца назад +1

      Well, GLaDOS did say in Portal 2 that she saw some humans but that with Chell, she'd be the only test subject needed.

  • @UnsightlyMuse
    @UnsightlyMuse 3 года назад +217

    The Abyss: GLaDOS was just lonely.

  • @ghostgirl7089
    @ghostgirl7089 3 года назад +286

    Portal is one of those games where there’s so much to go through but you can never get enough of
    And that we need a portal 3 - would love to see more of the 1950-1970’s abandoned test chambers and old aperture again

    • @largeboi4678
      @largeboi4678 3 года назад +4

      I’d settle for a remaster or remake of portal 1 and 2 for consoles

    • @kingtastytv
      @kingtastytv 3 года назад +10

      would be cool to have it set in old aperture era where you play one of the missing astronauts and cave is still alive watching you like g-man

    • @garfieldblessesyouwithadri3944
      @garfieldblessesyouwithadri3944 2 года назад +2

      @@largeboi4678 or just a remaster in general of both games mashed together in some way that would be sick

    • @largeboi4678
      @largeboi4678 2 года назад +7

      @@garfieldblessesyouwithadri3944 yeah, with added context for what exactly happens between portal 1 and 2

    • @swandive46
      @swandive46 2 года назад

      @@largeboi4678 For PS5.

  • @quaze_tf9921
    @quaze_tf9921 3 года назад +389

    I'm surprised that Gman still hadn't hired Chell

    • @Frostbyte501
      @Frostbyte501 3 года назад +26

      Portal 3 confirmed?

    • @sulphurous2656
      @sulphurous2656 3 года назад +50

      She'd probably just wave him to piss off and leave her alone, to be honest. That is assuming in the Combine garrison has been driven out and any dimensional rifts have been sealed up in her absence from the surface. Or that nobody needs to hire another master-class exterminator to deal with the stray Xen fauna infestations ravaging the planets ecosystem. And besides, the man with the briefcase already likely had enough matters of extradimensional nature that required his attention in the last 20-40 or so years.

    • @jonathanmckarlison1203
      @jonathanmckarlison1203 3 года назад +27

      I think the reason Chell hadn't been hired because you need to gain a worthy skill to fight example Gordon literally fight a god in half life or Directly see gman like Alyx in HLA

    • @quaze_tf9921
      @quaze_tf9921 3 года назад +5

      @@sulphurous2656 you know, there's more stuff in the universe than our earth so Gman still has business somewhere else

    • @quaze_tf9921
      @quaze_tf9921 3 года назад +12

      @@jonathanmckarlison1203 well Chell beaten an AI smarter than humans, escaped Aperture, then replaced that AI with another robot, escaped Old Aperture hundreds kilometers underground, and killed the second robot so idk

  • @agamerintheworld
    @agamerintheworld 11 месяцев назад +18

    31:46 i can imagine ellen walking into the studio like "ok what are we recording today" and the devs saying "vanilla crazy cake"

  • @monadoboiz9778
    @monadoboiz9778 3 года назад +235

    Man, we need another game like portal and portal 2 man. They we're so much fun. I literally held my breath for the whole sequence when Chell opened a portal on the moon. It's been a while since a game has made me do that.

    • @JakeWolven
      @JakeWolven 2 года назад +7

      Check out Little Nightmares I and II!

    • @jamesflanagan7272
      @jamesflanagan7272 2 года назад +9

      Portal Stories: Mel Is a worthy successor to P2. It is available on Steam.

    • @maurosgardelis8085
      @maurosgardelis8085 2 года назад +2

      Talos principle my man

    • @maurosgardelis8085
      @maurosgardelis8085 2 года назад

      The witness

    • @Galaxy-oy4nj
      @Galaxy-oy4nj Год назад

      ​@@jamesflanagan7272 it is a prequel to Portal 2 and a sequel to Portal

  • @FabioChannel5101
    @FabioChannel5101 2 года назад +498

    In an attempt to back up how long Chell slept, there is an unused voiceline said by GlaDOS, where she says "50,000 years is a lot of time to think." This suggests Chell slept for 50,000 years. (I believe It's on the portal wiki.)
    Edit: To further elaborate: In the final hours of Portal 2, a digital e-book on Steam about the development of Portal 2, a developer explains (I believe it to be Eric Wolpaw) that in order to separate Portal from Half-Life it would have to be set in the very distant future, a la 50k years, I'm not sure why they decided on such a massive time gap, but it is possible that Valve has an already planned Hl sequel that requires a large chunk of time to be set in order for Portal 2 to not interfere.

    • @nadarith1044
      @nadarith1044 2 года назад +184

      That must also mean all aperture paper and wood furniture is synthetic considering it lasted so long
      somehow aperture science scoffing at the idea of biodegradable material and making everything last as long as possible seems entirely in character

    • @unavailabIe_
      @unavailabIe_ 2 года назад +57

      We never got the exact time but in a portal comic it was mentioned that she slept for 20,000 years but as you said GlaDOS mentioned it twice in the beginning of the game he said that she was asleep for 99999999 days or 25,000 years also through out the game he mentioned that she slept for 50,000 years in conclusion portal 2 is set 20,000-50,000 years after portal 1

    • @fausthanos08
      @fausthanos08 2 года назад +18

      This 50.000 years stuff is the amount of time that passed between portal 2 single player and portal 2 coop

    • @whentho6303
      @whentho6303 2 года назад +51

      @@fausthanos08 nah Glados then says she’s jk and it’s only been a week

    • @EpicGamer-fl7fn
      @EpicGamer-fl7fn 2 года назад +82

      i geniuenly dislike this "50 thousand years" theory. Honestly im a lot more keen on thinking that Portal 1 took place somewhere around Half Life 1 and Portal 2 somewhere around Half Life 2. Either slightly before or after these games. No matter what i just don't see anything in that facility survive for THAT LONG. The damage would be far greater than just a bunch of vines and mold everywhere. Not to mention a lot of areas still look fairly "new" so to speak, like the parts outside of test chambers when you escape with Wheatley. And where does all the electricity to power all of this would come from by that time? Its just very unlikely and thats coming from someone who used to believe this theory.
      It would also parallel nicely to the Half Life games, on top of the fact that we know for sure Gordon was supposed to find Borealis at one point in Episode 3, and the whole AS focus was really starting to become bigger in EP2.

  • @sulphursock6229
    @sulphursock6229 3 года назад +292

    im laughing so hard at 37:53 why does the guy in the clip say "wheatley crab" like that. he sounds like hes crying. what the fuck please help me.

  • @hyp3r177
    @hyp3r177 2 года назад +150

    I'm surprised you didn't mention chell possibly being cave Johnson's and Caroline's daughter. since one of the potato science experiments from bring your kid to work day (which you can find when escaping with Wheatley in portal 2) has chell's name hidden on it. Also the potato in her experiment is the only one that grew possibly symbolizing that she grew up but all the other children didn't

    • @yuarentlucky
      @yuarentlucky Год назад +3

      Wait really.

    • @yuarentlucky
      @yuarentlucky Год назад +17

      HOLY SHIT, does that mean the reason why GLaDOS is so obsessed with her is because she sort of remembers Chell as her daughter?

    • @hyp3r177
      @hyp3r177 Год назад +5

      @Blank[d] its possible. its definatly a little bit of assumption but its possible

    • @03luigi14
      @03luigi14 Год назад +24

      Maybe Chell is the adopted daughter of Cave and Caroline. Chell's last name was probably redacted because Cave and/or Caroline didn't want anyone to see the connection with last names. Also, both Wheatley and GLaDOS mention Chell being adopted
      Edit: Another, smaller detail is that Chell has darker skin than Caroline or Cave. Larger detail: in "Want You Gone", GLaDOS mentions Caroline being a lot like Chell, implying that Chell took after Caroline, which could be where Chell got her abnormal tenacity from, given that neither Cave nor Caroline ever gave up on doing science
      Edit 3: removed edit 2

    • @Manxine14
      @Manxine14 Год назад +8

      I don’t think this theory could work. The first thing that comes to mind, among other things, is GLaDOS’ voice line saying,” I found two people in cryogenic storage with your last name. A man and a woman. It really is a small world.” Cave might have been stored, but we know that Caroline wasn’t because she was forced into GLaDOS.

  • @sniper9395
    @sniper9395 2 года назад +412

    For the Greek mythology part, Glados, when killed was forced to re-live being killed by chell over and over again over the course of 50,000 years taking place between p1 and p2, as part of aperture's backup survallence protocols. This could be a reference to the fact that Prometheus was forced to experience getting his liver ripped out of his chest over and over again forever.

    • @elenabrusturan
      @elenabrusturan Год назад +24

      I don't think that the liver is in the chest......

    • @fantasticalthoughts
      @fantasticalthoughts Год назад +4

      @@elenabrusturan xdddd

    • @SuperCakeKing
      @SuperCakeKing Год назад +4

      the turret saying gift of knowledge is a metaphor for the fire yet mr youtuber man didnt pick up on it

    • @nibulsheep8214
      @nibulsheep8214 Год назад +10

      ​​@@elenabrusturan bro was chained to a moutain by magic iron, and forced to regrow his liver every night so that the eagle could eat it again, i don't think the greeks really cared

    • @elenabrusturan
      @elenabrusturan Год назад +1

      @@nibulsheep8214 you've got a point, but still.....

  • @bradders6591
    @bradders6591 3 года назад +180

    Yo what about Chell’s science project from bring your daughter to work day?

    • @UntalentedBrick
      @UntalentedBrick 3 года назад +6

      better yet who the hell was chells father?

    • @bradders6591
      @bradders6591 3 года назад +4

      @@UntalentedBrick It's never said, but I always thought Chell was it was Cave and Caroline's

    • @crptic9925
      @crptic9925 3 года назад +9

      I actually made a joke to a friend while playing portal(we were talking in an Xbox party) I joked that a chell was brought to the bring your daughter to work day and was captured and never returned to her parents, before I was unexpectedly surprised to be told by him that the joke I made was an actually standing theory😂

    • @royliber3824
      @royliber3824 3 года назад +9

      @@crptic9925 Yeah! Im sure you're aware of the the potato science project in Portal 2 that is signed by Chell. Implying she took part of the "Bring your kids to work day" where they had a science fair. I think in Portal: Lab Rat its also mentioned that GLaDOS killed everyone during that day (highest population around the facility probably was an endorsement for her to do so) and that it was her idea to do this kind of day at work. Also just thought how really cruel GLaDOS were to Chell, bullying her for being an orpha especially when thinking about she probably made her that way :C
      This Half Life/Portal universe still got a lot to cover imo, I would also dare and say that the VR games Valve did including the Aperture Hand Lab has easter eggs and nods to the other Portal games we can cover.

  • @OssyFlawol
    @OssyFlawol 3 года назад +593

    Hi! i’m the original creator of this iceberg and I’m glad to see after many people shoved this video at me that it was actually covered! I’ve noticed a few bits that you’ve gotten wrong (e.g. “Aperture invented Lasers” comes from how Cave Johnson mentions pointing a super conductor laser at you in the 50s yet they were invented in the 60s, the "Borealis Boarding in the Flash Version" comes from the VERY original Flash game which features a sign with a boat as the exit sign in the cake room), I’d be glad to talk with you though in some way :)

    • @hyperblue3137
      @hyperblue3137 3 года назад +3

      Pretty good, man

    • @jackpouroo5877
      @jackpouroo5877 3 года назад +5

      Furry creators uwu

    • @expendableindigo9639
      @expendableindigo9639 3 года назад +2

      What original flash version?

    • @OssyFlawol
      @OssyFlawol 3 года назад +9

      @@expendableindigo9639 Referring to a fangame created before Portal 1 was released, it was well known for being the first and was a flash game. It got eventually made into a mappack (which is referred to in the video) and even after that the maps got officially remade for the Xbox 360 “Still Alive” port. So the original Flash Version refers to that early flash fangame.

    • @expendableindigo9639
      @expendableindigo9639 3 года назад +1

      @@OssyFlawol right. But the map pack was before the official version? On PC or something?

  • @null_00
    @null_00 Год назад +23

    When I first saw Chell throught the portal i wasn't like "oh... I am a woman" but i was like "wow, i can see myself through the portal"

  • @machinerin151
    @machinerin151 3 года назад +311

    23:29 the third rule is most likely the "under no circumstances should you bring the device outside the enrichment center". The reason I think that is because in Russian voiceover, which doesn't follow sound effects, changes and cutoffs at all she says exactly that. They did a shit job and Valve hired other Russian studio next time to do the voiceover, but what are the chances that they just gave them the original script, with instructions where to cut off what, that they just didn't follow? Pretty high, if you ask me!

    • @veryslowgirl
      @veryslowgirl 2 года назад +10

      im high as shit

    • @blokos_
      @blokos_ 2 года назад +1

      the russian portal *2* voiceover is pretty good too, although it has some weird cuts too

  • @RunnerEye
    @RunnerEye 3 года назад +6532

    “Portal is feminist propaganda” is the most chronically online take on a video game i’ve ever heard

    • @Acheronpanda
      @Acheronpanda 3 года назад +1687

      "It has women so it's feminist propaganda!!!"
      bruh

    • @masicbemester
      @masicbemester 3 года назад +155

      can't tell if it's Reddit or 4Chan. Wait, it's both, isn't it?

    • @botercreme0789
      @botercreme0789 3 года назад +288

      Glados literally deleteds Caroline

    • @fluffynator6222
      @fluffynator6222 3 года назад +154

      @@masicbemester
      Reddit isn't exactly anti-feminist.

    • @largeboi4678
      @largeboi4678 3 года назад +366

      I find it hilarious how she doesn’t even talk or anything, the ONLY way you can see her is through the portals!

  • @RevengeRaptorREAL
    @RevengeRaptorREAL 3 года назад +64

    Amazing video! But I'm surprised you didn't reference the Lego Dimensions Portal 2 levels, because if there's anything more weird and surreal, its gotta be those. You can apparently find a Cave Johnson core where he himself claims to have been put inside it, which would possibly support both theories relating to core consciousness and Cave Johnson being potentially preserved in an AI. This isn't explicitly canon considering it's from Lego Dimensions of all games, but it IS something hella obscure and wacky. The crap they have in those levels could be their own topic on the iceberg, honestly!

  • @nohakoraii
    @nohakoraii 2 года назад +28

    the part of prometheus being glados can also match the way that gldos had a black box that showed her her death repeatedly, the same way prometheus was repeatedly tortured by the bird every day

  • @ThatTravGuy
    @ThatTravGuy 3 года назад +34

    This brought back a ton of Nostalgia, I used to be obsessed with uncovering Portal lore shortly after Portal 2 came out, and this definitely brought back that wonder. Great vid dude.

  • @mrmporter17
    @mrmporter17 3 года назад +338

    I can’t believe the “humans inside companion cubes” theory because they get fizzled in front of you in portal 2 multiple times.

    • @ruttama
      @ruttama 3 года назад +41

      yeah but in portal 2 we have new companion cubes, the ones that were in Portal are different in cannon (Seen at the end when Chell gets her's from Portal after exiting the facility)

    • @Breached18
      @Breached18 3 года назад +17

      The organic material is destroyed with the cube. They scream in pain and they'll sing to you in portal 2

    • @AELmattex
      @AELmattex 3 года назад +7

      Yeah but if the "wireless" destruction of things can delete "wireless", may it can delete even organic objects.

    • @jeebus9118
      @jeebus9118 3 года назад +24

      The emancipation grill and emancipation in portal in general is capable of fizzling organic materials. There is a line in the game that confirms this by saying if you have a headache, you need to apply pressure to your temples because something in your ear got fizzled

    • @commenturthegreat2915
      @commenturthegreat2915 3 года назад +44

      This theory is insanely stupid in general. Apart from being filled with holes like this one, the entire theory is based on someone not getting the joke about the companion cube. The whole point of the sequence was GLaDOS mocking you for being attached to an inanimate object.

  • @munanchoinc
    @munanchoinc 3 года назад +67

    The "headcrab" that was in the elevators never existed due to the fact that there is no headcrab model or textures in the files (i am source engine modder)

    • @colesteinmetz
      @colesteinmetz 3 года назад +10

      I'm surprised no one searched for it lol

    • @Str4ngerr
      @Str4ngerr 3 года назад

      Could it be something that only happens when you have both games installed?

    • @munanchoinc
      @munanchoinc 3 года назад +1

      @@Str4ngerr no, unless valve put in the effort to program it to extract files from other source games like gmod

  • @ryanwillis2513
    @ryanwillis2513 2 года назад +39

    I first played the Portal series when I was 11. I thought it was cool. As an adult though I realise how deep it is, how amazing the characters are, how lonely the map is, the cultural references. It’s amazing.

  • @ShadowTaze
    @ShadowTaze 3 года назад +184

    Fun fact: most programming languages start list indexing at 0, so a list with 20 items in it would be referenced with items 0 to 19.

  • @TheDJYosh
    @TheDJYosh 3 года назад +44

    37:06 The song "Now I only want you gone" at the end of Portal 2 has lyrics explicitly saying that she was going to delete her memory of Chell. If she wasn't lying about being able to clone Chell just to be menacing at the end of Portal 1 she definitely deleted her DNA and brain scans as she doesn't want anything to do with her anymore. Ergo she would need to open the human vault again.

    • @dudeonlygamingandotherstuf7791
      @dudeonlygamingandotherstuf7791 3 года назад +1

      Didn't glados say she'll delete Caroline?

    • @TheDJYosh
      @TheDJYosh 3 года назад +6

      @@dudeonlygamingandotherstuf7791 Maybe she does, the song kind of contradicts herself as she says that "little Caroline is in here too".
      But in the song she explicitly says "When I delete you maybe I'll stop feeling so glad" which seems like it should be Chell.
      It's left intentionally open ended, but her lyrical content gives us some hints anyway.

    • @Breached18
      @Breached18 3 года назад +1

      @@dudeonlygamingandotherstuf7791 You're believing her? Its GLaDOS, a known Liar

  • @Alrightythen935
    @Alrightythen935 2 года назад +171

    I'm doing my second playthrough of Portal 2 atm, and even after all these years... No one else can create a captivating masterpiece like valve. I wish steam never worked out and they had to remain a game developer forever. Truly a crime that we might not ever experience the atmosphere of another portal game, there is really nothing like it today that has people coming together to try to understand the bigger picture, the easter eggs within and without the game. Incredible

    • @Atticore
      @Atticore 2 года назад +19

      well, I found half life alyx really enjoyable, so I'd say there's still some hope to hold out for another valve game set in the portal/half-life universe.
      I'd even go as far as to say not if, but when. They've teased the idea of continuing the franchise, I think it's just a matter of getting it right, and getting it done.

    • @yuarentlucky
      @yuarentlucky Год назад +9

      I really hope they make another original game, they're really talented AND creative, and I would kill for another valve game.

    • @destinyhntr
      @destinyhntr Год назад +1

      It's a shame that greed got to them. Imagine if they had the mindset of "we have all this money. Let's be as creative as we want now that we don't have to panic about budget cuts."

    • @HandjobHandsome
      @HandjobHandsome 9 месяцев назад

      @@destinyhntr that's literally is their mindset, there's no budget or time restraints

    • @LydiaS-nhdh
      @LydiaS-nhdh 9 месяцев назад +4

      Controversial opinion here, I know. I like the fact that they focus more on quality than quantity.
      I love the fact that they haven't gone the same route as Bethesda.
      Bethesda has gotten away with releasing incredibly glitchy and unfinished games over the last decade.

  • @iamsemjaza
    @iamsemjaza 2 года назад +32

    GladOS doesn't want clones with no history. She wants human subjects that lived lives and who can grieve at losing those lives in her experiments. She wants them to feel maximum anguish.

  • @IsLiterallyMe
    @IsLiterallyMe 3 года назад +636

    I just realized how badly I want a half life and portal crossover

    • @placeintheworldfadesaway5800
      @placeintheworldfadesaway5800 2 года назад +102

      They are in the same universe, so I don't think "crossover" would be the right word to use.

    • @spartanshadow90oficial
      @spartanshadow90oficial 2 года назад +12

      Little cursed , but i fully agree

    • @ki_mi9867
      @ki_mi9867 2 года назад +18

      They kind of are the same universe

    • @Fenrize
      @Fenrize 2 года назад +13

      @@placeintheworldfadesaway5800 They are in the same universe but you know what he meant. It would be amazing to see

    • @nadarith1044
      @nadarith1044 2 года назад +11

      @@placeintheworldfadesaway5800 Crossover never meant different universes crossing together but different series, for example in comics two series would be said to cross over even if the characters existed in the same city, like a daredevil and spiderman team-up for example would be a crossover

  • @Gamer_Dylan_6
    @Gamer_Dylan_6 2 года назад +105

    My interpretation of the cake at the end of portal 1 was that, in GLaDOS's twisted way of bending the truth, after you burn to a crisp she would despose of you in the cake room. Because you never completed the final "test" where you die, the cake is no longer needed and the candle is put out. This is kinda supported by the intelligence core.

  • @Copier777
    @Copier777 3 года назад +93

    I think there's a theory about how Combine Dispatch is actually a modified copy of GLaDOS. There's not much to support it, but the uncanny similarities are obviously the voice and the seeming omnipresence both have.

    • @dudeonlygamingandotherstuf7791
      @dudeonlygamingandotherstuf7791 3 года назад +9

      Well, they both had the same voice actor...

    • @pissandcornflakes9119
      @pissandcornflakes9119 3 года назад +1

      If GLaDOS traded some sort of information in exchange for the combine leaving them alone, it wouldn't be a stretch considering that she claims to have infinite knowledge

    • @Copier777
      @Copier777 3 года назад +4

      @@pissandcornflakes9119 Didn't she say "I have infinite knowledge but even I'm not sure what's going on outside"? This implies she hadn't had an encounter with the Combine prior to the events of P2, or at least doesn't know about it.

  • @DeutscheDemokratischeRepublik
    @DeutscheDemokratischeRepublik 2 года назад +21

    i'd say its been within the timespan of 10-20 years, judging by how the potatoes developed, how some things rusted in a salt mine (keep in mind that it'd be quite moist and salty in the mines, leaving quite a corrosive environment for metal), how insects haven't completely chewed up the bedsheets and other textiles, how the wooden furniture doesn't sustain much degradation in the wet climate of mines, especially in a region like michigan

  • @klink_75
    @klink_75 3 года назад +86

    weird that there wasn't an entry about that radio is saying "you are not alone" and "she lied to me" in reverse while getting vaporised

    • @missingindy
      @missingindy 3 года назад +1

      It was talked about in the entry about everything being sentient

    • @karenlinares7541
      @karenlinares7541 3 года назад +4

      @@missingindy kinda but it didnt directly mention what the radio says

  • @hectorsanchez2875
    @hectorsanchez2875 3 года назад +90

    Valve games are one of the many video game icebergs that can be really interesting, and having a ton of interesting stuff into them glad people starting to do icebergs in these games and same goes the uploader, hope this channel grows up over time.

  • @table2.0
    @table2.0 3 года назад +66

    31:02 I love this theory.
    It lends incredibly well to my belief that Wheatley isn’t just an AI, and the room full of humans Glados found makes sense if they are the scientist’s bodies being stored so they could continue working somewhat safely despite Glados. Glados being Caroline is the biggest signifier that it’s possible as they could apply that technology to themselves too after making Glados successfully

    • @PCRouter
      @PCRouter 2 года назад +1

      the room full of humans were all test subjects

    • @table2.0
      @table2.0 2 года назад +3

      @@PCRouter well, GLADoS turned then INTO test subjects. Test subjects are, in theory, stored in the rooms like Chell was when she woke up in Portal 2

    • @pillowmoment
      @pillowmoment 2 года назад +2

      The way some characters act (mostly Wheatley) shows some symptoms of some mental disorders.
      I know NPD was one of them.
      Does that add anything?

    • @table2.0
      @table2.0 2 года назад

      @@pillowmoment I mean, it wouldn’t make much sense for AI to develop human mental disorders, so ye that would lend to it too

    • @pillowmoment
      @pillowmoment 2 года назад

      @Table 2.0
      Yeah i mean like i understand the actual story of why he did everything, but some of it just wasn’t power or insecurity.
      The only way I believe an AI could act like that at all is if they were around/learned from somebody who had a disorder.
      Which, I think the cores were developed before everybody died, but it’s unlikely one person was manning everything (one person per core?) and i doubt they would be able to learn and mimic specific behavior if there were multiple people were there at all times.
      Idk how it works, but it’s always seemed off to me.

  • @talonkaine7121
    @talonkaine7121 Год назад +80

    If it ever happens, a massive half life 3 game with Chell, Adrian Shepard and Gordon would be epic

    • @Omega-jg4oq
      @Omega-jg4oq Год назад +9

      Barney : You Dare forget about me?! then I will not give you that beer I owed you 🍾

    • @Slash11512
      @Slash11512 Год назад +8

      Kleiner: Are you insane? The probability of a new Half-Life event are extremely unlikely!

    • @Omega-jg4oq
      @Omega-jg4oq Год назад +7

      @@Slash11512 Gman : Ah.. that would be considerably large nudge.. too large given the interest of my Valve employers

  • @lancer434
    @lancer434 3 года назад +41

    If Wheatley Crab was meant to be used, then it probably a prototype way for him to move off the railings instead of being held

  • @miguelpereira9859
    @miguelpereira9859 3 года назад +129

    It's amazing how much lore and theories there are about a series of 2 relatively short videogames. Also Portal 2 still looks great after all these years

  • @neurotoxinislife
    @neurotoxinislife 3 года назад +47

    I don't know, maybe someone already wrote about it but in the official russian dub of Portal The Third Portal Gun Rule sounds like "и самое главное, ни при каких обстоятельствах не пытайтесь вынести Устройство за пределы лаборатории". Here's translation: most importantly, under no circumstances should you the device be removed from the laboratory. That because our dub hasn't got any voice effects except GLaDOS', turrets and cores voices, so localisation just translated this like that
    Sorry for my bad English, i hope you can understand it xD
    And yea, i like version about shooting in the Moon more than that

  • @v.v365
    @v.v365 2 года назад +41

    I do believe Aperture had cloning technology, but like Glados said, “It has to be *humans* for it to be science.” Clones of humans would be an entirely different experiment, as would testing on said clones. Then you can gather data on how natural born humans are able to survive in psychological and physical testing parameters, and how clones of humans, artificial life, are able to survive in psychological and physical testing parameters.

    • @limalepakko6074
      @limalepakko6074 Год назад

      Clones are literally just humans that have the exact same genome with some other people, identical twins are each other's clones too

    • @v.v365
      @v.v365 Год назад +2

      @@limalepakko6074 but there in an inherent difference between Dolly the Sheep and a random sheep you’d find on a farm or in the wild, and that difference is how they were born, artificial vs natural.

    • @craycraywolf6726
      @craycraywolf6726 Год назад

      It's also said that the clones don't have souls, so... 🤔

  • @Lunarcreeper
    @Lunarcreeper 3 года назад +146

    everything being sentient is likely, because whenever glados or wheatley is talking to you, all of the panels also look at you, and when wheatley is calling you selfish and stuff the panel's eyes turn red, so the panels share their consciousness with glados, or whoever is in the body.
    edit: also at the end of the game the panels look sympathetic and then after the "caroline deleted" they seem less sympathetic.

    • @r2thegreat39
      @r2thegreat39 3 года назад +33

      yeah its highly implied that nearly everything is sentient, especially when GLaDOS mentions that she goes to speak to the door mainframe, and then "kills" him. so the doors are sentient too

    • @rainbowdash8003
      @rainbowdash8003 3 года назад +20

      Maybe not sentient per se, but rather, whoever controls the facility is then linked to everything else. So, GlaDOS can use all the moving parts in the facility as her limbs and sensory organs, to express sarcasm, to manipulate objects and analyse the facility.

    • @Breached18
      @Breached18 3 года назад +5

      @@rainbowdash8003 everything Aperture made has sentience oddly. That portal gun is probably sentient

    • @hakai1014
      @hakai1014 3 года назад

      @@Breached18 not sure how the portal gun is sentient

    • @generalcodsworth4417
      @generalcodsworth4417 2 года назад +4

      I don't think the panels are sentient so much as being connected to the OS and reacting as a side effect of strong emotion. Like how you may move your shoulders when doubting someone you trusted with your life at one point or destroying something that was a huge part of your life previously. GLaDOS talks about having near infinite intellectual capacity, perhaps this means the OS has infinite emotional capacity that can manifest in somewhat involuntary movements of several things throughout the facility.
      The panels looking less "sympathetic" at the end as Caroline is deleted may be related to the fact that after deleting Caroline, the human, emotional part of GLaDOS is gone and can no longer make her perform involuntary emotional reactions

  • @lukeystuff
    @lukeystuff 3 года назад +91

    Maybe GLaDOS needed the vault for more test subjects because of Chell's personality. If I were GLaDOS I don't think I would want thousands of test subjects that have the ability to kill me.

    • @motive-li1do
      @motive-li1do 3 года назад +5

      Yes, that is an ok point, but she immediately kills them all and needs to resort to the bots again. If she had been capable of cloning, she could have taken from the new subjects and cloned them, no?

    • @akaka6377
      @akaka6377 3 года назад

      @Matix 777 Actually, she wasn't quite at the end of the testing list. She was just rejected for testing because of her file.

    • @hiobio1713
      @hiobio1713 3 года назад

      @@akaka6377 was there a reason for why she was rejected or is that not revealed

    • @akaka6377
      @akaka6377 3 года назад +2

      @@hiobio1713 Yeah, she was in the 99th percentile for tenacity. There was even a footnote that said something along the lines of "Does not give up. Ever.", iirc.
      I heartily suggest checking out the comic Lab Rat if you're interested and haven't already! It gives a neat look into the somewhat deeper lore of the games and explains how and why Chell got to the top of the test subject list.

  • @willymcfresh8937
    @willymcfresh8937 3 года назад +2307

    At this point I’m convinced that women can’t be in videogames at any capacity without someone calling it feminist propoganda

    • @rileydacosta3701
      @rileydacosta3701 3 года назад +178

      Unfortunately true...

    • @AAAlpherior
      @AAAlpherior 3 года назад +243

      and also someone calling it pro-feminist because a woman is in the game and is not absolutely useless

    • @bim_buswick
      @bim_buswick 3 года назад +90

      While true, I notice that most people seem to not share this opinion, just loudmouths on the internet

    • @pixlbit9167
      @pixlbit9167 3 года назад +46

      In the first game, GLaDOS says you can donate organs to the self esteem program for GIRLS, and did you ever notice
      it's "Bring your DAUGHTER to work day"?

    • @reznovvazileski3193
      @reznovvazileski3193 3 года назад +52

      ​@@bim_buswick I think it's just a group of degens that doesn't understand the difference between shameless plugs and casual appearance.
      Both things do happen in the gaming industry it's just that the one is unacceptable as it compromises game quality to make a political statement which is what every other part of the internet is already hijacked for. The other is just a design choice and idk why that'd be a problem really... I don't care if my characters are female or male I just want them to be good characters in a well thought out story that actually revolves around the events the game is essentially about.
      Long story short; portal and tomb raider and stuff is fine. TLOU2 levels of turning a wonderful story with deep emotional connection to the characters into a social justice plug at cost of a large part of the actual storyline, not so much ok. Could've even been forgiven had they just put a second of thought to the order of events but they just didn't care, their statement was out that's all that mattered to them. Not the actual quality and perceived experience of the game.

  • @theonlyeye1170
    @theonlyeye1170 2 года назад +7

    I’m pretty sure that there was also animal testing, because there is an achievement in portal where you pick up a clipboard. The achievements description is “The chickens test results”

  • @Alitacyan
    @Alitacyan 3 года назад +15

    I never realized that the "psychological tests" was a fan theory. From the companion cube chamber and onwards its abundantly clear that it's the player - Chell that is being tested. Moreover the portal gun is never shown to be less than a fully functioning product. It doesn't look or feel like a prototype that needs further testing. In the end, all the tests are designed to put strain on the operator, not on the machine itself.

    • @r2thegreat39
      @r2thegreat39 3 года назад +3

      even in portal 2 it's mentioned that aerial faith plates were implemented to see "how well test subjects could solve problems when they were catapulted into space." so youre right, it never was the gun being tested

    • @jeebus9118
      @jeebus9118 3 года назад +2

      Considering how the gun doesn’t have any glitch, it makes me think that the gun seems to be the control variable, and the test subject’s psychological state is the manipulated variable

  • @TheZombersLMAO
    @TheZombersLMAO 3 года назад +339

    "Chell is dead from no air on the moon"
    So we just gonna ignore all that air being thrown into her face by the portal?

    • @MauricioJara
      @MauricioJara 3 года назад

      Not enough oxygen

    • @TheZombersLMAO
      @TheZombersLMAO 3 года назад +101

      @@MauricioJara thats a shit ton of oxygen coming out the portal. And she can hold her breath too. Game Theory covered this

    • @gluehuffer6955
      @gluehuffer6955 3 года назад +16

      Sorry folks but the way space works is that any oxygen in her lungs would violently be sucked out of her lungs. You can't just hold your breath lol. If it was realistic she'd be very dead.

    • @TheZombersLMAO
      @TheZombersLMAO 3 года назад +11

      @@gluehuffer6955 they sent humans and monkeys into space without gear and they survived for minutes
      Im pretty sure chell can survive for a few seconds

    • @gluehuffer6955
      @gluehuffer6955 3 года назад +3

      @@TheZombersLMAOthey were inside a spaceship. The ship is the AIRTIGHT protection. Edit: ruclips.net/video/pm6df_SExVw/видео.html

  • @deli2023
    @deli2023 3 года назад +23

    I'd like to put in my two cents on the Companion Cube body theory. It's not true. If you examine the Frankenstein Cubes that Wheatley creates, you see that some of the Weighted Storage Cubes pieces are taken off, including the back spherical panel. If you examine it, you'll see multiple data ports, implying that Storage Cubes are used for storing data, most likely like a hard drive. Companion Cubes are most likely the same as this, just with different spherical panels. GLaDOS mentions that they "Are sentient of course" in Portal 2, which means that Companion Cubes probably have Artificial Intelligences stored in them, and *thats* what makes it different from Weighted Storage Cubes. We also know that Aperture disposes of bodies in fires, it's shown at the end of Portal 1, and they show discarding of bodies in fire in the promotionals. And, when a companion cube passes through the Pneumatic Diversity Vent's scanner in the manufacturing area of the game, it shows an image of the box with wires inside of it, not a body. The achievements name is most likely a metaphor for the connection the player grows to the box in the game.

  • @Boschitter
    @Boschitter 2 года назад +9

    the only franchise where cake has some sort of relevance to the lore. god bless.

  • @Emerly
    @Emerly 3 года назад +27

    I loved the video, I learned a lot that previously went over my head, I want to know your thoughts on this head canon I came up with and burning questions I thought:
    Something hilarious to me about Portal 2 is GLaDOS being so fixated on recapturing Chell is her not noticing that the neurotoxin and turret production line were sabotaged. She oversees the whole facility, she’s an AI with total control and you’re telling me that she did not notice that. No alarm bells? No whistles?
    GLaDOS thought she was 2 steps ahead until she realized what Chell had been doing that whole time. Her first plan was the turrets, they were crap. Then her only backup is neurotoxin which was sabotaged as well. In that moment she was like okay, she’s a human, she can’t do anything else until the mainframe (announcer) says she’s corrupt.
    She’s just a core and so is Wheatley, the mainframe prompts a transfer because it recognizes her as corrupt and Wheatley is the nearest non corrupt core. The Aperture scientists built a backup method in case they needed a core transfer, hence why she wasn’t aware of the receptacle or stalemate resolution button. If she did, she would have destroyed them by now to avoid the possibility of being forced out of power.
    If you watch GLaDOS’ movements when the player is prompted to put Wheatley into the receptacle she jerks around. Normally she moves more slow, calm, and fluid. In that moment she knows that her time in power is up and another reason why she puts panels up to prevent the player from pressing the button.
    A more morbid take on the transfer is when Wheatley asks, “what if this hurts? What if this really hurts?”
    GLaDOS answering, “believe me it will,” then once she is fighting the nano bots saying, “get your hands off me, no stop, no NOOOOOOO!” Sounded way too human, after my umpteenth play through my head canon is that Caroline came through in that moment. If you’ve played Portal 2 you’d know that Caroline’s consciousness was forced into the GLaDOS mainframe. It’s something that went over my head until recently.
    While she’s a cold AI robot, her construct is still human with making mistakes like not paying attention to Chell’s sabotaging and vindictive behavior. Another question I have is, did the trauma of Caroline being forced into the system compartmentalize itself? The underlying theme of trauma is apparent with the black box feature playing the memory of Chell killing her on a loop and Cave Johnson’s voice triggering the memory of Caroline to resurface itself. Did the trauma of being forcefully uploaded against her will corrupt the mainframe into vindictive revenge and anger to kill everyone involved who were following Cave’s orders? What was going on in the potato while GLaDOS had an existential crisis?
    Lastly, do you think Caroline asked to be deleted because she didn’t want to be immortal in the machine and it was a way of showing mercy to let her Rest In Peace? GLaDOS having a front of deleting her just cause was a front? I know the “Want You Gone” song said otherwise but “Still Alive” said, “I’m not even angry, I’m being so sincere right now.”

    • @17thshard90
      @17thshard90 3 года назад +5

      I think the reason why GLaDOS doesnt notice the sabotage is, that she hasnt complete control over every aspect of the facility. Thats where the cores and other AIs come in. They are tasked with stuff like supervising the turret production, or the testperson Sleepchambers etc. IIrc GlaDOS is depicted as some sort of Queen by the robots (shown in one of Ratmans Hideouts), who gives out orders and coordinates everything, but isnt omnipresent or aware of everything. When the turret template was taken, the responsible AI decided not to report that but continued from memory. then when we added the "new" template, everything was fine again so GlaDOS might've just gotten a report like "there was a small issue but now its fixed". Also she is bound to some rules even she cannot break or change (like her inability to help with tests for example) so maybe she couldnt get rid of the Stalemate button.
      About her reason for killing all scientists, well, revenge seems to be her thing so its possible. In the comic it's mentioned that it takes less than a second for GLaDOS to think about killing everyone after being activated (thats why the scientists put cores on her to slow her down). Thats either because of her deep engraved hate towards them, or it's just the typical trope of supercomputers and AIs coming to the conclusion that the best thing to do is to kill all humans (based on pure logic).
      As for Caroline, I like to think that she wasnt really deleted, but instead was put into some sort of cloud. Not anymore an inherent part of GLaDOS, but now connected with the whole facility and all its robots.

  • @davt9633
    @davt9633 3 года назад +34

    Interesting fact: in the Portal 2 eBook the final hours, one of the developers said that they needed a way to difirentiate portal from half life so that it would be easier for each game to have their own story without conflicting without the events of the other. So they made Portal 2 take place at least 50 000 years in the future

  • @nikolacode
    @nikolacode 3 года назад +776

    When I first played Portal on my dad’s computer, I was surprised to see the main character was female. As a little girl I was so used to main characters being male, like Mario and Sonic. It was really nice to finally see myself in a character that meant so much to the story and wasn’t a side character like Princess Peach or Amy Rose.

    • @cheesegreater5739
      @cheesegreater5739 3 года назад +8

      Do we know Mario is male?

    • @nikolacode
      @nikolacode 3 года назад +72

      @@cheesegreater5739 He is male-presenting :)

    • @cheesegreater5739
      @cheesegreater5739 3 года назад +3

      @@nikolacode most of the time...

    • @aznchik7229
      @aznchik7229 3 года назад +71

      @@cheesegreater5739
      Was this written as a joke? Mario & Luigi are commonly referenced as brothers by Nintendo

    • @majinnemesis
      @majinnemesis 2 года назад +17

      how did you not know about games like tomb raider and lots of other game with female main characters that came out before portal?

  • @octanproductions6492
    @octanproductions6492 Год назад +4

    There is one big thing this iceberg missed:
    A little crossover game which has a
    - Portal Level in Main Story
    - Portal Level Pack
    - A new end credits song sung by GLaDOS
    This iceberg is missing...
    *Lego Dimensions*

  • @phylarious4352
    @phylarious4352 3 года назад +160

    If Chell had slept for hundreds or thousands of years and earth is still intact
    I guess the Gordon Freeman and the Resistance won somehow right?

    • @EugeneParallax
      @EugeneParallax 3 года назад +36

      Ever since I've played P2, I've assumed that Chell has slept for 9999 days (given that in the first awakening scene the automatic adjutant states the duration of 10 days and no other figures), which is 27,4 years and seem to best fit the timeline and state of the facility. But yes, the idea that the adjutant simply glitched out and didn't provide any actual data on that is equally if not more plausible, since there's no reason for that particular amount of time passing before Whitley comes around.

    • @tragedyplustime8271
      @tragedyplustime8271 3 года назад +13

      @@EugeneParallax This, I've always estimated P2 to happen 30 years after P1 (Which presumably happens near HL1's date, although that depends on the time between the Resonance Cascade and the 7 Hour War)
      This would leave enough time for the game to be separate from HL2's events (Which the designers have stated as reasoning for the future date) while not spouting out such ludicrous dates as 500000 years.
      The overgrowth is a side product of "Chell"'s overgrown potato battery experiment in the Bring Your Daughter to Work Day.

    • @UntalentedBrick
      @UntalentedBrick 3 года назад +2

      *forshadowing for half life 3*

    • @teacon7
      @teacon7 3 года назад +2

      The moon is intact at least

    • @rosie516
      @rosie516 3 года назад

      @@tragedyplustime8271 question why is chell in quotes?

  • @Sir_Newkirk
    @Sir_Newkirk 3 года назад +53

    "a man with a briefcase was here to see you not so long ago"

  • @crazydays7915
    @crazydays7915 2 года назад +944

    It’s not ‘feminist propaganda’, it’s literally just representation. That said, this representation is very rare where both the main protagonist and antagonist are women, with the characters as well developed as they are. You don’t see this a lot in popular games.
    Edit: AND YOU KNOW WHAT? The second I posted this comment I regretted it because the guy who posted this video probably doesn’t believe it’s feminist propaganda and is using it to GET MORE COMMENTS AND ENGAGEMENT FOR HIS VIDEO. And seeing the view count skyrocket since the 10 months when I posted this comment because of these kinds of comments is pretty telling.
    Nobody was saying Portal is “feminist propaganda” before that iceberg.
    (Tldr: I’m sick of all the replies and if you think you have something new to add to the conversation that the 20 or so people haven’t already said, you’re probably wrong.) :)

    • @cuerex8580
      @cuerex8580 2 года назад +4

      i think you didn't prove any point by saying it's not. you also have to say why if you want some dialog

    • @jdawgrrrrrr
      @jdawgrrrrrr 2 года назад +184

      @@cuerex8580 i think that the idea a woman existing is feminist, is kinda patronizing. a woman in a video game isn’t necessarily feminist, it’s just a human who happens to be a woman. tomb raider would be a better example of what could be interpreted as feminist as laura is explicitly a woman and that fact is always within view. in portal, chell is the name of your character’s model, but you get to see laura, she’s the woman who’s story you are playing through. chell is a feminist icon if you mean in the sense of 1st and 2nd wave feminism where women were never heroes. now women can be heroes, chell just happens to be one of them

    • @phillipisayev1273
      @phillipisayev1273 2 года назад +59

      All I see in this game are two very well developed characters. That’s how you do representation!

    • @spaghettimkay5795
      @spaghettimkay5795 2 года назад

      Representation is cancer. Reducing characters down to their gender, race, or some other physical characteristic, completely reduces the value of that character as an actual person within a world.
      You can have women in games, but don't label it "representation" when it's clearly not, it's just a character who happens to be female.

    • @elongatedmanforever1252
      @elongatedmanforever1252 2 года назад +4

      @@phillipisayev1273
      I prefer just good characters.