Can’t comment on the new stuff but I wanted a rod that went to 4ft so got red Nash dwarfs with fox fx9, not my cup of tea so now bought 12ft insurgents with 14000 xtds, amazing. They’re better then my gt4s and horizons, feel lighter and tip stops much faster, think I’ll be having a long needed clear out now. Looking forward to having a hold of the new insurgents, price on 12ft will be?
The rod and reel both look good. I currently use the Insurgent rods and Xtractor rods, so I am sure these will be great. The price seems reasonable aswell and look higher end than the current xtractors. I can see these being a big sellers. Especially as when you did the retractable rod tests. The Insurgents came first and xtractors were in second place 👍👍👍
Have you got proof of that? Because the insurgents in 10' are pretty much impossible to buy at the moment, and I did wonder why Sonik have launched effectively 2 competing products with the 10' Xtractor Pro and the 10' Insurgent
Don't worry, I found the info myself... And yeah, sounds identical spec --- The blanks of the Insurgents are made from high-modulus Toray carbon with a lite-ply 1k armoured weave throughout. The tip section of each of the five rods in the range has a multidirectional carbon lay up to prevent twisting in the blank during casting and therefore improve your distance and, crucially, your accuracy. --- Xtractor Pro: High modulus Toray carbon blank Lite ply 1K armored carbon fabric throughout Multi-directional top section carbon lay-up Super light M-SERIES DL black guides with anti-frap tip 50mm guide cartridge on 3.25 lb and above models (40mm lower) 18mm black DPS reel seat Slim Japanese shrink rubber handle --- Cheers, I'll get the Xtractor pro then as they're easier to find in 10' cork 3.25TC
I have just checked the spec of the Insurgents and the new Pro xtractors. They are exactly the same, carbon, rings, reel seat etc.., just cosmetically slightly different. Same quality but at a lower price range RRP than Insurgents were.
This is what the Xtractor rod and reel should have been to start. Sonik needs to stop focusing on the low price. And focus on bang for the buck. That’s how to get a cult following.
Just like 80's brass ornaments. Looked great at the time. But best left in the past. Gold really does look like it needs to be on that programme flog it...
Dont know about PRO versions but Do not buy REELS Xtractor 5000 GS GOLDEN !!! Just sended mines back to shop, the spools are woobly, looked like they forgot some Bearings in the spools them selfs - DO NOT BUY !
if you had to chose between the new xtractor pros and the insurgent - what you picking?
Can’t comment on the new stuff but I wanted a rod that went to 4ft so got red Nash dwarfs with fox fx9, not my cup of tea so now bought 12ft insurgents with 14000 xtds, amazing.
They’re better then my gt4s and horizons, feel lighter and tip stops much faster, think I’ll be having a long needed clear out now.
Looking forward to having a hold of the new insurgents, price on 12ft will be?
When are the reels released? Can't find anything on the pro version
Does Anybody know if the GS 5000 spools fit the black xtractor 5000 Reels are the spools the same ????
The rod and reel both look good. I currently use the Insurgent rods and Xtractor rods, so I am sure these will be great. The price seems reasonable aswell and look higher end than the current xtractors.
I can see these being a big sellers. Especially as when you did the retractable rod tests. The Insurgents came first and xtractors were in second place 👍👍👍
Are these Reels beter than the older Xtractor Reels? Or the same problems?
These or the insurgents? What ones do you prefer?
What people are missing the xtractor pro and the insurgent are the same rod re badged .
Have you got proof of that?
Because the insurgents in 10' are pretty much impossible to buy at the moment, and I did wonder why Sonik have launched effectively 2 competing products with the 10' Xtractor Pro and the 10' Insurgent
Don't worry, I found the info myself... And yeah, sounds identical spec
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The blanks of the Insurgents are made from high-modulus Toray carbon with a lite-ply 1k armoured weave throughout. The tip section of each of the five rods in the range has a multidirectional carbon lay up to prevent twisting in the blank during casting and therefore improve your distance and, crucially, your accuracy.
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Xtractor Pro:
High modulus Toray carbon blank
Lite ply 1K armored carbon fabric throughout
Multi-directional top section carbon lay-up
Super light M-SERIES DL black guides with anti-frap tip
50mm guide cartridge on 3.25 lb and above models (40mm lower)
18mm black DPS reel seat
Slim Japanese shrink rubber handle
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Cheers, I'll get the Xtractor pro then as they're easier to find in 10' cork 3.25TC
@@twincamspit like I said there the same rod re named
Sonik xtractor pro reel or sonik insurgent reel what one better
Insurgents can be picked up for £50 or even less in some places now, better off buying them.
Where are you finding 10ft 3.5lb insurgents for £50? 👀
@@markwilde1819 eBay mate, regular seller doing new sets of X3 for £150.
I got 3 brand new insurgents 10ft 3.25tc rod's on ebay for £112 + p&p
@@steveshiret4143 homeunleisure I think is the dealer, they go for silly money. I sold my scopes and bought x6 Insurgents for same money!
I got them for £40 each, luv em !!
I have the Insurgent 10ft 3.25lbs test curve and I cast with them over 200ft with no problems. These are very nice rods.
I have the xtractors and I can manage 3960 inches!
I’ve the same rod
It’s so stiff I use it as a spod rod
Hey, what reels are you using on those?
@@KmtHW insurgent 6000
So how do these compare head to head against the Insurgents?
With or without AK47
I have just checked the spec of the Insurgents and the new Pro xtractors. They are exactly the same, carbon, rings, reel seat etc.., just cosmetically slightly different. Same quality but at a lower price range RRP than Insurgents were.
Every wooden handle is different.. why?! I have 3 different colored handles LOL
Got the GS extractors 5000 qaulity is ok I thought they would have been better.Pro reels look better quality.
are these just the insurgents rebranded the specs look the same and 50 quid cheaper
This is what the Xtractor rod and reel should have been to start. Sonik needs to stop focusing on the low price. And focus on bang for the buck. That’s how to get a cult following.
4.00min a carp jumping at the opposite
Just like 80's brass ornaments. Looked great at the time. But best left in the past. Gold really does look like it needs to be on that programme flog it...
how sonik havent been taken to court shocks me!!!!
Why would they be taken to court?
Pure Diawa copy
@@HelloCarp look nothing like dawias apart from gold colour.
🤦♂️
The colour, name what more do you need
Dont know about PRO versions but Do not buy REELS Xtractor 5000 GS GOLDEN !!! Just sended mines back to shop, the spools are woobly, looked like they forgot some Bearings in the spools them selfs - DO NOT BUY !
Sonik gear complete pants