"Why don't you put her in charge?!" Some years later, Paul "Nothing Personal" mentioned in an interview that his mom cheered when his character Carter died. Can't do justice to him relating, "MOM!!" then "You're such an asshole, Paul!" You own mom cheers your demise. That is an extraordinary acting achievement that will lead to a lot of therapy.
I first saw this at a local hall screening organised by Scouts or something circa '87, and the sound of a hundred or three people cheering when Burke gets his face nommed is a cherished memory of that time and place for me. Not an uncommon reaction apparently 😂
The actor who played Gunnery Sergant Al Apone was a marine in real life and served I believe about 6 years in Vietnam, reciving 13 combat awards and 2 Purple Hearts. Not a surprise he was really authentic and entertaining. :) “All right, sweethearts, what are you waiting for? Breakfast in bed? Another glorious day in the Corps. A day in the Marine Corps is like a day on the farm. Every meal’s a banquet. Every paycheck a fortune. Every formation a parade. I LOVE the Corps!”
One evening my 14 yr old daughter inadvertently walked in on me watching Aliens. She immediately got hooked and wanted to see the other Alien movies. She also saw Prey and saw the other Predator movies. Then she discovered the Aliens vs Predator crossover. I should have stopped her there. But Pandora’s Box was opened. The more Aliens, Predator, and AvP she watched the more disappointed she was of the story. She’s learned the value of storytelling and appreciates the classics a lot more and does not fall for present day special effects.
One of the top movies of all-time. Got to see it in the theater when I was 11 and I was completely blown away. A masterpiece. It's such a shame that this was the last Alien movie ever made.
One of my favorite movies. I loved the character of Vasquez. I remember my mind being blown away by the scope of the alien species. I adore Mama Ripley and Papa Hicks. RIP Sarge. RIP Hudson.
I was lucky to see Bill Paxton speak at the New York Comic-Con back in 2013. He was just a great human being, no Hollywood BS. And he was smiling when fans would yell out "HUDSON!".
The Reason The Expanse and ALIENs where such a success, is simple, the technology is real world believeable and thats key in my opinion, coupled with the next level production detail and by definition the attention to that detail down to the smallest set piece.
It is such a great film, and a great sequel, and it's also packed with so many great one-liners! Not to mention that it influenced video games like DOOM and HALO....
Love how the character portrayal of Sarge influenced Bungie's creation of Sergeant Johnson in the Halo universe. Writers borrow from each other indeed.
Marines will sleep anywhere, any time they have down time. On ships in storms, aircraft in turbulence, vehicles, whatever. It's just something they learn to do, because they know that when the business begins they may not get to sleep for the next 2 or 3 days.
I tune in each week to hear Wes' intros to the showl This week, he did not disappoint. I was pumped up and excited to watch this episode. And, Ty's wry comments just made the intro that much better. I love the stories and I love the discussion and this program works for me -- two good friends discussion movies that they enjoy watching. Thank you guys for bringing this show each week!
That anthropomorphic forklift Ripley used was so freaking cool. Recall when I saw Aliens for the first time thinking how cool that design was. Again Syd Mead. Dude was an amazing artist.
If you watch the scene carefully you will see the Caterpillar logo on the backs of the power loaders, a very nice detail to make the world feel more real. The machines looked so realistic that Caterpillar started getting calls from customers asking how much they cost and how soon could they get one for their warehouses and stuff. Cat sadly had to tell them the machine was pure fiction.
I never read the screenplay/script for this, but I did read the novelization way back in '86 at the same time the movie came out. There were a number of scenes in the novel that didn't make it into the movie, but almost all of those were actually filmed and later "reappeared" in the extended version. With regard to that version, I am fine with several of those scenes being cut, but I will die on the hill that the scene with the automatic guns firing in the tunnel and then stopping just before running out of ammo should absolutely have been kept. It's great drama and makes you realize the aliens aren't mindlessly attacking, but instead can learn and make plans.
Novelizations are someone else's embelishments on the story. The script shows you what Cameron intended, how he put the pieces together, carefully planned the foreshadowing and payoff, etc.
@@miller-joel I understand that. I'm just saying that the novelization appears to be based on an early version of the script that included all the scenes that were later cut out of the theatrical version (and added back into the extended version). This is common with film novelizations, because in order to be released simultaneously with the movie, they have to be written before the studio is done with their final editing. I do have a copy of the Terminator 2 script which I read over and over literally dozens of times back in the day. Similarly, all of the "extended version" scenes are in it. And almost all of those appear to have been cut for the same reason as in Aliens - to keep the pace from dragging.
@@SLKRR Those scenes were not removed from the script, only the theatrical cut. They were meant to be a part of the story. They were not just added later for fun, they were restored where they belonged. Yes, sometimes directors film scenes they will later cut for creative reasons. That's not what happened here. They were only cut for time. Nothing to do with the "pace." I haven't seen anyone explain exactly how the restored scenes ruin the "pace." Does the colony scene ruin the pace? No. Does the scene about Ripley's daughter before the inquest ruin the pace? No. The rest are only a few seconds long each. So it's a bogus argument.
The roles are reversed: in Aliens Hicks ends up believing Ripleys story about the xenomorph. In Terminator (Sarah Connor) ends up believing Reeses story about the Terminator and Skynet. Both Ripley and Reece are time travellers, thrust into non familiar but still rooted in humanity environments.
I was also a teenager when I saw this, and everything Ty said about that intro scene is 100% correct. When that salvage robot enters the shuttle's cabin I was already about to crap my pants, having seen Alien and how scary it was. He's also right about how the Marines and crew of the Sulaco expedition were all characterized in just a few minutes of dialog, when the Marines start taking casualties you care about these characters even though you barely know them. Just a great film from end to end.
My brother got Aliens Special Edition on video for his 12th birthday (FROM OUR PARENTS) because he was so obsessed with it (we'd already seen it a few times in the theatrical cut). He watched it every single day after school. We also got the special collectors edition tin of Terminator and T2 after T2 came out. Neither of us were quite old enough to see T2 at the cinema yet but mum took pity on us the second the video came out because we loved Terminator so much. 80s parenting was the best!
The thing is now that you've seen those scenes of Ripley talking about her daughter and alien isolation, you don't actually need to see those scenes in the movie. But had you not seen those scenes in the special edition you wouldn't have known about Amy / Amanda😊
The jargon between the Colonial Marines is spot on. The character dialogue is most excellent. The vision of a future military is what really captures your imagination.
Watched Aliens last night so imagine my surprise seeing this today. 1986's Aliens is without a doubt the best in the entire Alien series and arguably the best sci-fi horror film ever made. James Cameron is a legend
So there was a cut of the movie where Burke sends a message to the colony and has someone go out to the ship. The first victim is Newt's dad. As for the theatrical release, the movie was able to carry the tension for despite not showing the aliens for the first 45 min. The showing of every door last 6 inches before closing was a great tension building device.
One of my most rewatched movies, at least in part because of its themes of a surrogate mother’s love versus the systemic greed of corporations who have no problem sending humanity to die for a slight potential bump in profits from bio weaponry.
That exoskeleton loader Ripley uses was exciting to see after decades waiting for anyone to do anything from Heinlein right on film. Granted it wasn't shot out of the side a a ship and ridden to the ground, but we sort of got that eventually in Edge of Tomorrow. Appreciate hearing one of my favorite modern writers' thoughtful reflections on my favorite author since I was a kid in the early 60s. Ripley and Hicks deserved better than they got from the movie that can't be named. Such a great team in this movie full of great characters. Looking forward to next week's show.
RE: Suicide Squad, at some point they are going to let David Ayers release a real director's cut. He mentions it in a Real Ones podcast with Jon Bernthal.
I've been waiting for this one a looooong time now :-) Love this podcast, Alien, Aliens, The expanse and so much of what you cover on this channel, thx so much for your time.. big fan, never miss it, first comment, much respect
Fun show!! The only Cameron movie I've lost count of how many times I've seen it. Cameron also didn't like divas, no matter how good they were at their job. I've heard of two well known makeup fx shop owners (on different Cameron movies, not Aliens) who were total divas, huuuuge egos, and they did not get on well together!
I really don't think that actors of the calibre of Ed Harris, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio and Michael Biehn had problems with James Cameron because they were lazy.
Thanks so much, guys for doing this series. Aliens is probably my favorite movie. I agree with Ty that it is one of the few perfect movies. I remember seeing it back in 1986 when it first came out. I hoped it would be good; I had liked Terminator when it came out and I hoped Cameron wouldn't screw Aliens up too bad. I was completely blown away. I have never had a movie exceed my expectations as well as this one did. Ridley who?
In all fairness it does sound like Cameron is a bit of a knob. It's completely unreasonable to expect guys on a wage to care as much as he does about a project. Alot of us know about those kind of gung ho managers - flipping nightmare.
@@mudmonkeymagic Even if you don't care as much about the project, you're supposed to be a professional hired to do a job. They actively undermined him.
@@mudmonkeymagic Or, you suck it up and you do your job. I haven't seen anyone complain that Cameron is a poor manager. Demanding, yes, but that's different. And I don't see how you can make the movies he's made by being a poor manager.
@@miller-joel Use your brain for goodness sake. Many people have reportedly had difficulties working with the guy. In this case he mismanaged so badly the crew had a protest. He can be a great filmmaker and still difficult.
I don't have a favourite movie. I have two -- Bladerunner and Aliens. When people say they are both set in the same universe, it makes a lot of sense to me. Cheers
@@miller-joel I dunno about that. I spotted a news piece that said: "The theory that Ridley Scott’s Alien and Blade Runner are connected has evolved from folklore to fact ever since one of BladeRunner's screenwriters, David Peoples, said that his other film, Soldier, is a spin-off sidequel to Blade Runner despite their tenuous connections. If Soldier, despite its schlocky tone, can be considered canon to Blade Runner, then Alien certainly can as well." Not that it matters. It doesn't take anything away from my enjoyment of either film. They're still -- and quite like always will be -- my two favourite movies.
@@miller-joel "I dunno" is what British people often say when they disagree, but don't want to appear impolite. Like when Americans say, "I'm not sure."
@@BrianRPaterson Ah, so you disagree that Blade Runner takes place in 2019? Or that replicants are far more sophisticated than androids? Or what? I know people keep trying to tie them together, but they are stories from different writers, not intended to be connected.
38:00 Guys, you are butchering all the in-jokes. Ferro's helmet says Fly the Friendly Skies, which was one of United Airlines' taglines. The "I" is actually a single quote. There's another one on the other side.
~ Sorry Wes, the greatest sequel of all time is "GODFATHER 2", which not only was a sequel, but simultaneously perhaps the first "prequel" ever in Motion Picture history. ~
Titanic is the Casablanca and Gone With the Wind of our generation. It is the best romantic epic since casablanca. Only a fool would question Cameron's writing decisions, especially in a big and risky production like Titanic. Cameron definitely outdid himself with Titanic. Terminator 2 is the greatest action film ever made. But Aliens (especially the Special Edition) is the greatest sci-fi film ever made as far as I'm concerned. You need the scene of Ripley finding out about Amy or Amanda. Its part of the art of cinema. Did you know that Amy is written on the wall of Newts lair?
2:25 Ok, I already have to disagree. Strongly. Cameron did NOT edit the real ordiginal cut down to the theatrical cut for pace. He edited it for TIME. In his own words, in the introduction to the special edition, "I think this a longer, more intense and more suspenseful version of the film. The conventional wisdom then was: don't make the film too long. But at 2 hours and [34] minutes, this is the ride that we intended you to take." Also, I've seen dozens of reactions to the special edition and NO ONE complains about the pace. Also, the restored scenes are not just fun "extra" stuff. They are integral to the story (that's why they are in the original script), and the consistency of the movie suffers when you take them out. The colony scene explains why Newt is the only survivor, why she knows her way around the air ducts, and why she can evade the queen on the Sulaco, in two short sentences. Without that explanation, she's a Mary Sue who can do anything and knows everything. Which sucks. Ripley's backstory about losing her daughter AND feeling guilty about leaving her to work for a company that considered her and her crew expendable completely solidifies her relationship with Newt and her decision to go into the alien nest to rescue her, and maybe die in a nuclear explosion. It takes it from "I guess she would do that" to "of course, she would absolutely do that."
No, No, No! The Terminator Movies where greater. I love Aliens and Alien is my favorite Movie ever but i die on that hill. Aliens is not Better as T1 or T2.
The movie Aliens sucks ass. Cameron took a chilling and claustrophobic (practically Lovecraftian) horror movie and turned it into a shoot em up, pow pow pow, KABOOM cartoon for simple minded people who cannot fathom the idea that the unknown is infinitely more frightening than a giant, lumbering, rubber/latex monster queen. Any and all movies from that point on are pure garbage and not worth wasting a single brain cell on, let alone giving them full attention. I know I'm alone in thinking the original move, Alien, should be considered a masterpiece of science fiction/horror, but I don't care. I'm well aware that humans are mentally lazy and will do almost anything to keep from using their imaginations.
Freddie Mercury called, he wants his mustache back
Tom Selleck's lawyer is calling, too.
Mercury must be calling from the grave. #DEAD
Tough, the mustache is mine now.
Let Wes cook!
"Why don't you put her in charge?!"
Some years later, Paul "Nothing Personal" mentioned in an interview that his mom cheered when his character Carter died. Can't do justice to him relating, "MOM!!" then "You're such an asshole, Paul!"
You own mom cheers your demise. That is an extraordinary acting achievement that will lead to a lot of therapy.
I first saw this at a local hall screening organised by Scouts or something circa '87, and the sound of a hundred or three people cheering when Burke gets his face nommed is a cherished memory of that time and place for me.
Not an uncommon reaction apparently 😂
Hudson: "Hey Vasquez...have you ever been mistaken for a man???"
Vasquez: "No...Have you???"
The actor who played Gunnery Sergant Al Apone was a marine in real life and served I believe about 6 years in Vietnam, reciving 13 combat awards and 2 Purple Hearts. Not a surprise he was really authentic and entertaining. :)
“All right, sweethearts, what are you waiting for? Breakfast in bed? Another glorious day in the Corps. A day in the Marine Corps is like a day on the farm. Every meal’s a banquet. Every paycheck a fortune. Every formation a parade. I LOVE the Corps!”
One evening my 14 yr old daughter inadvertently walked in on me watching Aliens. She immediately got hooked and wanted to see the other Alien movies. She also saw Prey and saw the other Predator movies. Then she discovered the Aliens vs Predator crossover. I should have stopped her there. But Pandora’s Box was opened. The more Aliens, Predator, and AvP she watched the more disappointed she was of the story. She’s learned the value of storytelling and appreciates the classics a lot more and does not fall for present day special effects.
Dude the way this story starts out...made me really uneasy for a moment lol
One of the top movies of all-time. Got to see it in the theater when I was 11 and I was completely blown away. A masterpiece. It's such a shame that this was the last Alien movie ever made.
Better to burn out than fade away.
..said no Hollywood movie exec ever.
I mean this with all sincerity. This movie gave me such relief from a bad reality when I was a kid.
One of my favorite movies. I loved the character of Vasquez. I remember my mind being blown away by the scope of the alien species. I adore Mama Ripley and Papa Hicks. RIP Sarge. RIP Hudson.
I was lucky to see Bill Paxton speak at the New York Comic-Con back in 2013. He was just a great human being, no Hollywood BS. And he was smiling when fans would yell out "HUDSON!".
The Reason The Expanse and ALIENs where such a success, is simple, the technology is real world believeable and thats key in my opinion, coupled with the next level production detail and by definition the attention to that detail down to the smallest set piece.
My all-time favorite movie! I saw it when I was 13, and it had an unreasonably large influence on me eventually becoming a soldier!
"I signed up, when do I get my pulse rifle?"
It is such a great film, and a great sequel, and it's also packed with so many great one-liners! Not to mention that it influenced video games like DOOM and HALO....
Love how the character portrayal of Sarge influenced Bungie's creation of Sergeant Johnson in the Halo universe. Writers borrow from each other indeed.
Bingo! It's like Sgt. Johnson was a clone of Sgt. Apone...😁
Hicks sleeping during the drop is absolutely accurate, and is a stress response to his previous trauma.
Possible. A seasoned soldier also knows you sleep when you can.
Marines will sleep anywhere, any time they have down time. On ships in storms, aircraft in turbulence, vehicles, whatever. It's just something they learn to do, because they know that when the business begins they may not get to sleep for the next 2 or 3 days.
They also raid preschools for crayons.
@@neutchain7838 Crayons for strength.
@@RCAvhstape USMC 1983-87
I tune in each week to hear Wes' intros to the showl This week, he did not disappoint. I was pumped up and excited to watch this episode. And, Ty's wry comments just made the intro that much better. I love the stories and I love the discussion and this program works for me -- two good friends discussion movies that they enjoy watching. Thank you guys for bringing this show each week!
"The movie James Cameron has yet to top." YEP
He's woke now, so it will never happen.
@@miller-joel here we go...
@@N8Nefarious Where are you going?
@@miller-joel please elaborate how Cameron is "woke". As far as I can tell, his movies have always had strong feminist characters.
@@dannylerch Ever heard of Terminator Dark Fate? Being woke has nothing to do with being feminist.
That anthropomorphic forklift Ripley used was so freaking cool. Recall when I saw Aliens for the first time thinking how cool that design was. Again Syd Mead. Dude was an amazing artist.
If you watch the scene carefully you will see the Caterpillar logo on the backs of the power loaders, a very nice detail to make the world feel more real. The machines looked so realistic that Caterpillar started getting calls from customers asking how much they cost and how soon could they get one for their warehouses and stuff. Cat sadly had to tell them the machine was pure fiction.
Oh boy - This is gonna be good 👾
I love that you guys publish this the day that the Alien Romulus teaser came out 😍
It looked good. Really liked the atmosphere, the sounds, the lighting, etc... I don't keep my hopes up but it looked promising.
I never read the screenplay/script for this, but I did read the novelization way back in '86 at the same time the movie came out. There were a number of scenes in the novel that didn't make it into the movie, but almost all of those were actually filmed and later "reappeared" in the extended version. With regard to that version, I am fine with several of those scenes being cut, but I will die on the hill that the scene with the automatic guns firing in the tunnel and then stopping just before running out of ammo should absolutely have been kept. It's great drama and makes you realize the aliens aren't mindlessly attacking, but instead can learn and make plans.
Novelizations are someone else's embelishments on the story. The script shows you what Cameron intended, how he put the pieces together, carefully planned the foreshadowing and payoff, etc.
@@miller-joel I understand that. I'm just saying that the novelization appears to be based on an early version of the script that included all the scenes that were later cut out of the theatrical version (and added back into the extended version). This is common with film novelizations, because in order to be released simultaneously with the movie, they have to be written before the studio is done with their final editing.
I do have a copy of the Terminator 2 script which I read over and over literally dozens of times back in the day. Similarly, all of the "extended version" scenes are in it. And almost all of those appear to have been cut for the same reason as in Aliens - to keep the pace from dragging.
@@SLKRR Those scenes were not removed from the script, only the theatrical cut. They were meant to be a part of the story. They were not just added later for fun, they were restored where they belonged. Yes, sometimes directors film scenes they will later cut for creative reasons. That's not what happened here. They were only cut for time.
Nothing to do with the "pace." I haven't seen anyone explain exactly how the restored scenes ruin the "pace." Does the colony scene ruin the pace? No. Does the scene about Ripley's daughter before the inquest ruin the pace? No. The rest are only a few seconds long each. So it's a bogus argument.
2 weeks ago I got to watch this with my 13 year old. He loved it and was so great to share with him!
The roles are reversed: in Aliens Hicks ends up believing Ripleys story about the xenomorph. In Terminator (Sarah Connor) ends up believing Reeses story about the Terminator and Skynet. Both Ripley and Reece are time travellers, thrust into non familiar but still rooted in humanity environments.
I was also a teenager when I saw this, and everything Ty said about that intro scene is 100% correct. When that salvage robot enters the shuttle's cabin I was already about to crap my pants, having seen Alien and how scary it was. He's also right about how the Marines and crew of the Sulaco expedition were all characterized in just a few minutes of dialog, when the Marines start taking casualties you care about these characters even though you barely know them. Just a great film from end to end.
My brother got Aliens Special Edition on video for his 12th birthday (FROM OUR PARENTS) because he was so obsessed with it (we'd already seen it a few times in the theatrical cut). He watched it every single day after school. We also got the special collectors edition tin of Terminator and T2 after T2 came out. Neither of us were quite old enough to see T2 at the cinema yet but mum took pity on us the second the video came out because we loved Terminator so much. 80s parenting was the best!
The thing is now that you've seen those scenes of Ripley talking about her daughter and alien isolation, you don't actually need to see those scenes in the movie. But had you not seen those scenes in the special edition you wouldn't have known about Amy / Amanda😊
The jargon between the Colonial Marines is spot on. The character dialogue is most excellent. The vision of a future military is what really captures your imagination.
I heard in a behind the scenes special that the actors playing Marines were required to read Starship Troopers.
Watched Aliens last night so imagine my surprise seeing this today. 1986's Aliens is without a doubt the best in the entire Alien series and arguably the best sci-fi horror film ever made. James Cameron is a legend
So there was a cut of the movie where Burke sends a message to the colony and has someone go out to the ship. The first victim is Newt's dad. As for the theatrical release, the movie was able to carry the tension for despite not showing the aliens for the first 45 min. The showing of every door last 6 inches before closing was a great tension building device.
One of my most rewatched movies, at least in part because of its themes of a surrogate mother’s love versus the systemic greed of corporations who have no problem sending humanity to die for a slight potential bump in profits from bio weaponry.
That exoskeleton loader Ripley uses was exciting to see after decades waiting for anyone to do anything from Heinlein right on film. Granted it wasn't shot out of the side a a ship and ridden to the ground, but we sort of got that eventually in Edge of Tomorrow.
Appreciate hearing one of my favorite modern writers' thoughtful reflections on my favorite author since I was a kid in the early 60s.
Ripley and Hicks deserved better than they got from the movie that can't be named. Such a great team in this movie full of great characters.
Looking forward to next week's show.
Newt deserved better, too. "They mostly come out at night. Mostly."
@@RCAvhstape Both the character and the performance set new bars.
Aliens sets the perfect example of just how brilliant Cameron's work is compared to the joke we received as the follow up sequels.
Would you believe some people defend that crap?
I hope Wes keeps that Tom Selleck mustache if they ever do Expanse books 7-9
Amazing to see you guys doing a deep dive to my favorite movie, a masterpiece. Incredible that it has almost 40 years!
Been dying for this.... dying to show my son
Look forward to watching this movie in 40 years and still loving it. (And thinking, good god, modern (2060s) movies are the worst.)
Would be great if you alerted us a few days in advance of your topic... so we can watch the movie ahead of time!
Thanks Joseph for all you do to keep everything working. Great Job!
Missed it live. Definitely a great film. I did a study on the Alien films years ago (1 to 3).
Please do Near Dark soon. Would be a very good excuse for a rewatch.
30:00 Why are you doing this to me? Ripley doesn't ask Hicks about the pulse rifle. It's his idea. Then she wants to know how the rest works.
That was also the closest Ripley got to flirting with a guy in either of the two films. And yes, there are only 2 Alien films so far.
@@RCAvhstape Correct!
RE: Suicide Squad, at some point they are going to let David Ayers release a real director's cut. He mentions it in a Real Ones podcast with Jon Bernthal.
I've been waiting for this one a looooong time now :-) Love this podcast, Alien, Aliens, The expanse and so much of what you cover on this channel, thx so much for your time.. big fan, never miss it, first comment, much respect
Wes really has an incredible gift for transporting you to Suicide Squad '16. For a moment I could've sworn I was playing Mahjong with Boomer's nanna.
And the best thing about this - we get to do it again next week. Dang that was fun. Thanks guys.
This is one of the best and most informative reviews of my favorite movie of all time! Thank you.
Fun show!! The only Cameron movie I've lost count of how many times I've seen it.
Cameron also didn't like divas, no matter how good they were at their job. I've heard of two well known makeup fx shop owners (on different Cameron movies, not Aliens) who were total divas, huuuuge egos, and they did not get on well together!
Awesome episode guys, Thanks! Can’t wait for episode two!
Not mentioned but Fun Fact, Aliens is set in the same universe as Blade Runner, Synths = Replicants
I need to see a series of videos where Ty and Wes stream the video game Alien: Isolation. I think they would love it, and so would the audience.
I really don't think that actors of the calibre of Ed Harris, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio and Michael Biehn had problems with James Cameron because they were lazy.
Thanks so much, guys for doing this series. Aliens is probably my favorite movie. I agree with Ty that it is one of the few perfect movies. I remember seeing it back in 1986 when it first came out. I hoped it would be good; I had liked Terminator when it came out and I hoped Cameron wouldn't screw Aliens up too bad. I was completely blown away. I have never had a movie exceed my expectations as well as this one did. Ridley who?
you guys should do the abyss next! Cameron's most underappreciated and underwatched film that barely made back it's budget.
Specially now that it's remastered in 4K.
Around 9:00 ... I don't know man, the myth of glorifying overwork is way too scary and I think it deserves some careful words
DC ftw since VHS in '93!
Oh, You had great/fast pace at the end of The Expanse... yahoo 😂
Can't wait for the other parts. This weekend I am binge watching Alien and Aliens.
Best movie ever made.
Cameron made all the people playing Colonial Marines read Starship Troopers
probably the movie I've watched the most times.
Just saw this again last night and it is sooo good.
Besides Glory, THE BEST Horner soundtrack. Absolutely perfect!
Ripley and Sarah Conner both go through similar changes between the first and 2nd movies
Fuck bosses who want their employees to "put as much effort into the job as they themselves do" while they take all the profit.
Great movie, though.
Yeah, he loves you if you stay till 3 in the morning to work on his project....f that.
Aliens remains the ONLY movie I ever paid to see twice at the cinema.
Fine, I'll go watch Aliens again...😁
have they done Event Horizon yet?
No, but they need to!
11:20 The British crew also resented Cameron as an American nobody who was taking over for Ridley Scott (royalty).
In all fairness it does sound like Cameron is a bit of a knob.
It's completely unreasonable to expect guys on a wage to care as much as he does about a project.
Alot of us know about those kind of gung ho managers - flipping nightmare.
@@mudmonkeymagic Even if you don't care as much about the project, you're supposed to be a professional hired to do a job. They actively undermined him.
@@miller-joel if you are a poor manager you end up with employees who try to undermine you.
@@mudmonkeymagic Or, you suck it up and you do your job. I haven't seen anyone complain that Cameron is a poor manager. Demanding, yes, but that's different. And I don't see how you can make the movies he's made by being a poor manager.
@@miller-joel Use your brain for goodness sake. Many people have reportedly had difficulties working with the guy. In this case he mismanaged so badly the crew had a protest. He can be a great filmmaker and still difficult.
"We're in some pretty shit, now!" ✌😎
YES!!
YESSS!!! 'Bout damn time!!!
Thank you Ty for making god damn clear they’re Marines and not soldiers lmao were the most arrogant fighters that ever existed.
I don't have a favourite movie. I have two -- Bladerunner and Aliens.
When people say they are both set in the same universe, it makes a lot of sense to me.
Cheers
But they don't. Replicants are far more advanced than the Alien/Aliens androids, much earlier in the timeline. Blade Runner takes place in 2019.
@@miller-joel I dunno about that. I spotted a news piece that said: "The theory that Ridley Scott’s Alien and Blade Runner are connected has evolved from folklore to fact ever since one of BladeRunner's screenwriters, David Peoples, said that his other film, Soldier, is a spin-off sidequel to Blade Runner despite their tenuous connections. If Soldier, despite its schlocky tone, can be considered canon to Blade Runner, then Alien certainly can as well."
Not that it matters. It doesn't take anything away from my enjoyment of either film. They're still -- and quite like always will be -- my two favourite movies.
@@BrianRPaterson What part of what I said don't you know?
@@miller-joel "I dunno" is what British people often say when they disagree, but don't want to appear impolite. Like when Americans say, "I'm not sure."
@@BrianRPaterson Ah, so you disagree that Blade Runner takes place in 2019? Or that replicants are far more sophisticated than androids? Or what? I know people keep trying to tie them together, but they are stories from different writers, not intended to be connected.
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Its pronounced Vas Quez. I have no idea what syllables were coming out of Wes's mouth to butcher that name.
Bug stompers not bug smashers
38:00 Guys, you are butchering all the in-jokes. Ferro's helmet says Fly the Friendly Skies, which was one of United Airlines' taglines.
The "I" is actually a single quote. There's another one on the other side.
Sorry Ty...Mad about You came out in 1992
You are wrong. The extended cut is superior.
Neither Avatar film comes close to this!
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wtf, mr moustache
~ Sorry Wes, the greatest sequel of all time is "GODFATHER 2", which not only was a sequel, but simultaneously perhaps the first "prequel" ever in Motion Picture history. ~
Titanic is the Casablanca and Gone With the Wind of our generation. It is the best romantic epic since casablanca. Only a fool would question Cameron's writing decisions, especially in a big and risky production like Titanic. Cameron definitely outdid himself with Titanic.
Terminator 2 is the greatest action film ever made. But Aliens (especially the Special Edition) is the greatest sci-fi film ever made as far as I'm concerned. You need the scene of Ripley finding out about Amy or Amanda. Its part of the art of cinema.
Did you know that Amy is written on the wall of Newts lair?
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2:25 Ok, I already have to disagree. Strongly. Cameron did NOT edit the real ordiginal cut down to the theatrical cut for pace. He edited it for TIME. In his own words, in the introduction to the special edition, "I think this a longer, more intense and more suspenseful version of the film. The conventional wisdom then was: don't make the film too long. But at 2 hours and [34] minutes, this is the ride that we intended you to take."
Also, I've seen dozens of reactions to the special edition and NO ONE complains about the pace.
Also, the restored scenes are not just fun "extra" stuff. They are integral to the story (that's why they are in the original script), and the consistency of the movie suffers when you take them out.
The colony scene explains why Newt is the only survivor, why she knows her way around the air ducts, and why she can evade the queen on the Sulaco, in two short sentences. Without that explanation, she's a Mary Sue who can do anything and knows everything. Which sucks.
Ripley's backstory about losing her daughter AND feeling guilty about leaving her to work for a company that considered her and her crew expendable completely solidifies her relationship with Newt and her decision to go into the alien nest to rescue her, and maybe die in a nuclear explosion. It takes it from "I guess she would do that" to "of course, she would absolutely do that."
No, No, No! The Terminator Movies where greater. I love Aliens and Alien is my favorite Movie ever but i die on that hill. Aliens is not Better as T1 or T2.
Yes it is.
I mean T2, Aliens and Empire Strikes Back are my favourite sequels, idc in what order. They are all exceptional movies.
The movie Aliens sucks ass. Cameron took a chilling and claustrophobic (practically Lovecraftian) horror movie and turned it into a shoot em up, pow pow pow, KABOOM cartoon for simple minded people who cannot fathom the idea that the unknown is infinitely more frightening than a giant, lumbering, rubber/latex monster queen. Any and all movies from that point on are pure garbage and not worth wasting a single brain cell on, let alone giving them full attention.
I know I'm alone in thinking the original move, Alien, should be considered a masterpiece of science fiction/horror, but I don't care. I'm well aware that humans are mentally lazy and will do almost anything to keep from using their imaginations.
I mean, that's a bit strong but I am with you on the general premise that Aliens is way inferior to Alien.
Wez have you scored a part on The Rookie? Police Mustache, very Blue Oyster Bar!. 🤣
We've got the ALIEN + ALIENS double feature showing at my fave cinema next month. Definitely getting the band back together for it. 😎🥸🤓😱👽👽👽