WHAT?!? "MALI KIDS"? LET'S REWIND THE JAY SLATER CASE- THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANS NOW!!!
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
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Jay Slater's case has left many bewildered what to believe. His own mother has many of the same questions as the public. In a screenshot of a post that Debbie says came from Jay's phone, the text posted referred to "Mali Kids" allegedly posted by Jay. Why would a 19 yr old call two men in their 30's kids? Another mystery is Jay's Social Media Accounts... Let's rewind and Chat!
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PLEASE don’t listen to them. I think ya reaaaaaaal cool 😎. And don’t be sad.
@1111TrueCrime I sure will. Just need my daughter to do it lol. Technology lol xxxx
@@1111TrueCrime been trying to join keeps going wrong as does the tip. Takes me to my app PP and nothing. Will get there eventually, or phone will go out the window xxx
Rachel has done a great deal of covering up for her son Brad IMO
Chris tenerife and his friend luggy are very suspicious! Luggy rides boats and chris is a tenerife resident. Luggy has said that the police have lied and also that 4 men could carry a body in to that ravine. The ravine is covered in foliage so how did he detect it 1 day before a new search team arrives. I smell fish!
I agree The bloke is all over the place One minute he's playing the sympathic hero and the next he's ranting like a lunatic I don't get it
It would be interesting if someone came forward to say it wasn’t there people hike that area all the time
In my opinion 😁
He may of been going over his tracks to show if any evidence him being by jay body sussssss
Landslide
@@user-rg6re1qz7i maybe Chris seen his @rse with the police cus they didn’t find where he dumped him must been hard work to dump in that heat and the gang were like get down there and say ya found him because he sounded annoyed that he went to so much trouble and they never found him in my opinion 😓
Rachel Hargreaves is suspicious af. And cold as ice!
Yep. I was saying this week 1. I even made a post about it. You couldn't type the name brad. Wouldn't let ya. It wouldn't get accepted onto the main page. She was deleting things also that could of been possible evidence.
She's aggressive!
Thank you for sharing this!~
@@1111TrueCrime Thank you for allowing me. And for your amazing work. You are highly gifted.
@@vicklou And disengaged from true reality.
So proud of you mama d! You tell him.. it was all too strange he could guarantee jay being there! Gets drunk and goes on rants and contradicts himself then deletes.. no credibility left there. Your doing a great job ❤
Thank you Sheree!~
Lancashire Police need to question Rachel Hargreaves immediately.
We need to contact Lancashire Police and tell them this though
@@user-hq8bb9yv1u They know already and if they don't then should be held to account.
Doesn't look like anyone will be questioned unless all this info is given to the UK Authorities unfortunately.
@@AndyFensome-c6g I beg to differ. Let's see...
@@user-hq8bb9yv1u Having been in contact with 17 different individuals teams police forces from various countries and other parties claiming a professional interest in another high profile case I am inclined to do the policing for them. I think citizen sleuthing is the new investigative solution. If left to the police nobody wolud ever seek or face justica, either.
The police are now a militia and not there any longer to protect the people. We need to investigate instead. At least help, and hold them accountable like the criminals.
I missed the live! I missed Chris in the chat! Chris, Luggy & Rachel are in every stream or post about Jay! You 3 imo are hiding a lot of the truth & it will come out
Thank you Birtan!~
Omg, if ever there's justice for Jay, we'll be almost as excited as an Oasis reunion!
Amen
Oh don’t 😂 I’m up early tomorrow morning on a ready to purchase some tickets 😂😂🫶🏽
@@Beautifulpeople44 me too 🤞
Definitely!
Why on Earth would Rachel Hargreaves use the name Harg Rach and not her real name when she was admin of Jay Slater -Missing Official Facebook page? Not using her own name hardly encourages confidence.
This lot all seem to have a ton of personal accounts each under different names...either they are really bad at locking themselves out, or they're the modern Mr Nice with identities but not very well concealed!
@@vicklou They are unsophisticated criminals who bit by bit become more and more brazzen and carless. After a while they feel they are untouchable which is usually when they realised they made a very bad mistake. After the fact! Arrogance is usually not a criminal's best friend. Nor is complete stupidity. Nor playing with serious people, intent on exposing the full truth. How dumb can they possibly be?
@@vicklou Multiple accounts along with false names are highly suspicious.
@@Arcticnick I’m surprised she not wearing sunglasses 😎
@@PiscesAquatics Yes, really!
So many people went to this festival. There must be more videos. 🤞
Chris... I have a question... Why did a girl recieve messages from you just before you started sticking to the narrative that Jay walked into that ravine,
because you was saying it was impossible for him to have gone that way... You sent messages while you was on a live on tiktok with a girl and scared that girl... saying you and others were going to take Mark Williams Thomas out. Amongst other scary threatning things
I still have the messages you sent saved somewhere in my cloud.
You scared that girl. She didn't know what to do!
Then you vanished from all social media platforms for about 2 or 3 days, completely deactivated them all. Bizarre indeed.
You came back on socials a very different person indeed. You completely switched your way of thinking. Saying nothing else but Jay walked that way. Threatning anyone who questioned it.
Why did you send them messages threatning MWT? And other scary messages.
What changed during them couple of days you vanished into thin air? What happened for you to suddenly change your mind and stick to the little hike story?? Hmm?
I liked you at first Chris. But the way you have been acting threatning people, trying to scare people and forcing people to believe something you didn't even believe at first is crazy to me.
Stop trying to intimidate people from wanting to find out what happened. We are not stupid. There was foul play. You know it. We know it.
If you don't like it. Carry on with your day. But stop trying to intimidate people. You're a grown man!!!!!
I totally agree with your views on Chris as too much of a coincidence 😮
I love the way you won't leave this alone, who killed Jay? It's a big cover up
Justice for Jay!
@@1111TrueCrimeNo one killed jay lol. There's obviously many questions about why he left the Airbnb scared and made the decisions he made, whether or not he tried to sell the stolen watch to ayub and they essentially stole it off him and told him to leave etc... whatever it was doesn't really matter because ultimately it was jay who decided to walk into a blimmin ravine and take such a stupid path that he ultimately fell... He could of stayed at his ping location he sent but he for whatever stupid reason decided to keep walking away from the ping he sent
@@user-qe2ho7xo1j how do you know.. were you there?
@@1111TrueCrime followed the facts of the case since day 1 in-depth and know the drug scene and UK culture well.. for someone to have actually killed him requires so many facts of the case to suddenly become untrue somehow... There is foul play involved but only in the sense of whatever happened whether it be an argument,watch deal gone wrong, scared of someone else who might be arriving at the address but it's pretty clear no one actually killed Jay directly
How can you say that with any authority when the very people who told that tale are dishonest and untrustworthy to put it mildly?@@user-qe2ho7xo1j
Chris tenerife is riddled with guilt imo
Chris Pennington is Johnny Vegas who was at Masca that night according to Ayub's interview with Mark Williams Thomas.
Got Drug dealer vibes he has
He is very suspicious as is luggy. He is a nervous wreck on camera and definitely was involved in this cover up
@@BassBoss101 Do you have a link to the source?
@@BassBoss101thought Johnny Vegas was Brandon?
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awe You Rock! Thank you for standing by me!~
@@1111TrueCrime I've been getting the same type of comments too, I get it!
Would you be okay if I uploaded the clip of your response to him please? I would like to tag him in it to ensure he gets the message, esp where he subscribes to my channel. It's okay if you say no, it wont affect my support for you
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Im from jays area and in my opinion the speech on the snapchat is not how a lad of his age speaks... the word cuz and saying 10 quid for £10,000 are terms used predominately in London. Jay wouldnt have called a couple of 30 year old 'players' kids. The message is clearly written by Ayub or Rocky.
Congratulations with the case that you've had good news with. Good always prevails.
I really enjoyed you stiffing Chris P he needed it 😊 i find that man awful , at worst hes involved at best hes a narcissistic attention seeker. All that crying for the camera 🤮
Anyhow im loving your vids God bless x
Good catch, I wondered this too about the terms used.
I enjoyed reading all that you shared and find it very intriguing. I will be sharing your thoughts on a LIVE because I appreciate your thoughts very much. Thank you lovely for sharing
I'm local to Jay's family too and I agree, kids don't talk like that round here.
The only people that I know that use the language kid and cuz are scousers.
I'm from London. All Somalians are referred to Mali's here. Not just Somalians affiliated to Mali Strip.
Dealers have 2 phones
Just catching up l.. I am from the uk London. How would anyone even know this gang apart from ayub. He has definitely made it so obvious now. Why Mali kids not two random guys or lads or something. Omg ayub thinks he’s so smart 🥱🥱
It is very sus indeed
That message was very london street gang language. Very specific to london . No way jay wrote that messsage.
There's also a gang in London called AP.
I think the Mali kids being referred to are Ayub and Rocky but they are far from kids being in their 30’s!!! Also the authorities said Jays injuries were consistent with a fall from a great height BUT they didn’t say it was an ACCIDENT!!!! As for Chris Tenerife living out there you can guarantee he knows who’s who and what’s what that’s how he could guarantee where Jay would be found so why not do that route while Jay was missing and allegedly lying in the ravine why do the route after they found his body ???
I'm hoping and preying that a break happens in Jay's case, and that there is an arrest or arrests made. Unbelievable that there has not been this far, unless there has been and we don't know.
#justiceforjay
@@1111TrueCrime amen.
And good for you lovely for standing up for yourself. 🙌
So love how you destoy chris tenerife with twoe x i barrels and class at it , i love you ❤
Just keeping it real
It would not take the Police long to get access to Jay's Instagram account I'm sure. Surely that's one of the first things they'd look at for clues.
@@fionadavies18 they need to and get Jays and ‘friends’ phone data downloaded, but I bet they won’t.
You go girl 👏 so glad someone finally put chris in his place 🙌 anyone would think he has something to hide the way he pops on to everyone's channels he has a problem with people asking questions and if the narrative doesn't fit his he gets pissed up and angry 😂
#justiceforjay
Chris Pennington sold his updates during the search to
The mirror,the sun, the daily express, the canary press, the daily mail, the US sun, and other press publications.
Thank you for posting!~
Lovely to see you. Thank you ❤❤❤
So impressed by how you dealt with CT! He & his friend Luggy managed to shut down Wax & Harsh unfortunately. Admire your skills.
Thank you Ruth!~
Harsh had a Jay Slater video on earlier today.
I’m from Tottenham, which is only a few miles from Walthamstow and Clapton. There are quite a few gangs in Tottenham and I know for a fact that the Mali boys are very very active and not afraid to do whatever it takes to get what they want.
Something I forgot to say, that in London street slang Mali also means “pure MDMA” as well as the nationalities of a lot of the gang
It means "Somali" - Ayub & Rocky.
Mali is short for Somali
@@shirleydenniser6079 Well done for repeating my comment.
Rocky doesn't look Somalian tbh , who knows
Wow you told him I don’t like or trust him he’s creep you tell them my love amen to mr jay slater god keep him safe Chris is creepy 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Much Love!~
Him and luggy threatened wax also just saying , and yes the phone would probably of been in the bag
Uk county lines is a d rug supply model trafficking d rugs into rural areas and smaller towns, away from major cities. Like a hub & spokes. Mali boys are an East London county lines gang. Criminal gangs recruit and exploit vulnerable children to run the drugs down the lines. It's what Ayub got jail for (d rugs to Wales), and Potter Payper, they grew up together in East London. I wouldn't be surprised if Jay's mates weren't recruited from a young age (like often 11-12) to d rug run county lines. So, whilst I as a non d ruggy Londoner, might not have known the Mali name & assume it to be Somalians, it wouldn't be surprising if county lines d rug boys know.
But I also don't think Jay wrote that post. He might know the names, but the phrase sounds more like Ayub talk. Less about the Malis, more about the kids!
Jay was also randomly attacked at 12 yrs by a gang of men in a car. That sounds like the beginnings of trapping. Brandon was held at knife point as a kid too.
@YouGottaBrKiddin_Yeah I didn't know about Brandon. They are literally groomed & threatened in hey? Lower socioeconomic areas targeted too, where there's lots of broken homes & vulnerable boys wanting role models & playing the big I Am. In a way I for sorry for TH, one of many kids in a dysfunctional family who worshipped a druggy father who died. TH's insta then says he was afraid of nothing then, because the worst happened. So this is how a heartbroken 'fearless' (but totally acting out of fear, defensive) ego behaves. The worse the behaviour, the bigger the pain. Hurt people hurt people. I'm not convinced Jay would have hurt anyone; if he grassed he was actually being a good kid & supporting Tom.
@vicklou why our mainstream media aren't covering county lines news I dont know. It's swept under the carpet. Kids don't stand a chance in some areas of the country.
There is so a lot information on the Internet about Jay and his associates can't wait justice be served. 💙
Hi I love your channel and breaking everything down. So interesting. Your so bubbly and really nice x
Big Love to ya!~
I think they took Jays phone and put up texts
He lived in North England so highly doubt Jay had even heard of the street gang MaliBoys. I live about 90mins from East London & I’ve never heard of them before. I know I’m not part of gang or *rug culture, but I can’t see a 19yr old with no ties/friends to/in London knowing about that gang. Oswaldtwistle is about 280 miles away from East London. Oh, and if Ayub (& Potter) is/are part of that gang I highly doubt they would advertise that fact to a young lad they only met a day before. No one from that gang would if you go by the wiki information on them. They like to remain anonymous! I’m now more convinced Ayub was one of the people reflected in Jay’s glasses (other one is Brad & of that I’m 99.9% sure) & wrote that caption. Gives me the chills. Would also explain why Ayub has been so cocky on his lives if he is a g member. Just my opinion.
I’ve heard of other London gangs so I’m not completely
I think Jay died before the bnb and they decided to put him there when the searches were getting more indepth
5:20 you pronounced Leyton & Walthamstow perfectly. ❤
awesome!
"Mali" refers to Somalian in East London, UK. The name itself does not describe a gang, drug$ racket, or strip ( which is the main road, where shops are/front line) All those things are relevant though as alot of young Mali boys are in that line of work. They also have gangs like every other race. There are good Somalis too, some really good people. 🙏
They all fit together in hindsight the puzzle is close to done
Brilliant work once again keep going on jay slater case till we find Justice For Jay xxxx
Thank you Michelle!~
The DVC Giveaway is nice..but You are Awesome for doing info regarding Jay Slater and Missing Children.. that's what's important to me 😢
Much Love and I appreciate you!
Child exploitation should have higher punishment especially for 'mulling' children.
Hi mama watching on replay absolutely love your channel your the best x
Awe big ❤️
'Cuz' just means 'mate', we also use 'fam' as in family for friends, doesn't mean actual family. 'Kids' is used like 'guys', and 'mali' is used short for somali, so may not be gang related, often gang terms used by young people who aren't involved in gangs at all.
Well done on all the work you do. Sending love from Dublin 🇮🇪. Justice for Jay and everyone else thats passed at the hands of monsters
Thank you!~
Brads mum sells rugs
You think.
Im feeling you , and perfect your investigation, bingo ! The phone
Thank you for watching!~
Ye I agree Ayab texted Jays phone
I have a niggling question Brandon, seems to have been out of the picture completely and left the country immediately. Never given an interview. Yet he knew Luce in 2022!! Only reappeared at funeral!!
Great Question and thank you for tuning in!~
Chris doesn't look like he could walk more than 10 minutes without sitting down for a rest
but yet the Man doesn't sweat?
@@1111TrueCrime do you have an email address? I have some info I would like to send you about somebody related to this case
@@KikiSushiii rubberducky2005@yahoo.com
@@1111TrueCrime sending you an email in 5 minutes.
@@1111TrueCrime just sent it! It’s pretty enlightening
Mobiles have an internal memory alrdy in the phone so if police wanted to they could still find information on it. I know this because when I worked in Argos (retail store) someone brought a phone back saying it wasn't working or something like that, no memory card inside but it was still checked where they go to when they are return items, the owner of that phone had taken porn pics of children. The police was informed and the person was charged. I dñt no what they got this about 15-17 years ago.
Oh my goodness!
Yeas everything is store in the cloud. And whatever pics or videos are there they are on Google pics and images.
Lovely work and dedication ❤❤❤
Thank you violetone!~
Totally agree with you about someone older posting messages using Jays sim card.
Hi Mamma! On replay. Thank you for your brilliant work love you millions ❤️🇬🇧
awe Millions is a lot! thank you love, I love you to the Moon and Back!
🧐 interesting how this story became such a huge lesson for hundreds of us around the world following it! May that be Jay’s positive legacy.✨
( DVC giveaway )
They like anonymity. Jay called them out on his Snapchat, and publicly admitted to committing a crime with them. Probably to look cool. Maybe they found out and weren’t happy about it.
DVC GIVEAWAY! You are a breath of fresh air for honesty and getting into this ❤🙏🏴
awe Much Love to you!~
Someone had Jay's phone and posted the Mali boys comments etc.
I thought Jonny Vegas was Jonathan Nofiu Atanda?!
Me too
Totally agree with you… why is CT watching all the channels??
Great Question! and Posting in our chats as well
You go girl fighting back !!! Chris and luggy are bullies!! They have abused everyone over on tik tok and now they have come over to RUclips !! They have both had a go at me too especially that idiot lurgy!!
So proud of you sticking up to these bullies ❤
thank you love
I’d say yes the reference to Mali kids would be related to Mali boys as in London gang. Although Qasim was living in Aylesbury, gangs in London operate across postcodes these days so it’s less postcode specific. Incidentally Jonathan Atanda (nick name Jonny Vegas) was also living in Aylesbury whilst serving time in HMP on Isle of Sheppey. Coincidence? You decide.
Mmmm interesting!!!!!
Johnny vegas played a drug lord in a dark comedy in the uk years ago. Maybe thats why they call him Johnny vegas🤔
ah that is interesting
@@1111TrueCrime it was called ideal, yt has some videos,
Am sure js mum will know the way he speaks and txs
That photo in car with glasses is fella hardgreves get pic check
Looks like he on a boat to me ...
Maybe his Instagram went active because the civil guardia found his phone earlier than we all know. Remember when his body was found, it was said his phone had been wiped. Reading about the guardia civil, they are definitely not straight down the middle.
That is a great question!
13M in you ask how his phone could have been accessed after he passed maybe it wasn`t maybe it was his home pc which could have been signed in or password saved
Great point!
I'm from the UK, I'm 45 with a not so savoury past... I've never heard the term Mali Boys...(???)!!!
I jjst wrote the same ..never ever heard of it
and Jay said "Mali Kids"
Short for Somali . I have Somali friends and tgis is how they are known
Also ayub is Somali
You're doing a great job. Please keep it up. Justice for Jay.
Thank you Andy!
@@1111TrueCrime No worries. I have two boys. The perpetrators of this crime need bringing to justice.
My boys go on this type of event.
Truly shocking what happened to this boy.
It's a shame but it looks like a lot of the other guys that were looking at this case seem to be backing off.
Maybe they got scared.
@@annabrowne3212 We will see. Wax, Harsh and Joseph were very vocal and now nothing.
Same happened to MWT.
Thanks YT Notifs, for now letting me know about this live....that ended about 10/15 mins ago 🤦♀
argggg Thank you for replay lovely!~
Go on girl get him told
Oh my word, I missed this one yesterday (you always look so gorgeous and love your style). Your subscription counter turned 30K as I’m watching right now!! Congratulations Momma D!! Keep being you 💚💛🩷🧡🩵💜 ~lisa~
Thank you and Much Love to you!~
#justiceforjay
Well said on 'CT'💚🇬🇧
Much Love!~
@@1111TrueCrime loves from The BlackCountry UK 🇬🇧 . I'm totally hooked on your videos, true crime addict to the core 💚
West Midlands uk would say how u doing son. North east uk how you doing mate or how you doing fella
I have a friend that's 22 years old he always calls me kid knowing that I'm 40 years old
When that pic was took of Ahab on the doorstep he gestures with his fingers
Thats secret gang message
ah I am in agreement on that lovely!
Saying cuz is the same as bro..
That cuz could mean because
And it's not jay sent that
416❤ Justice for Jay 💙
Well done, Mamma, get him told. He's a bully and so's his pal in my opinion.
Thank you for your support
I think kids is what an older person would say
I agree Paula!
Mumma D much love to you and your work. Thank you! x 😘💋🙏 RIP wee Jay xxx
awe Big Hugs lovely!~
If im correct though , north west where jay is from would say kids and not boys. North west uk would even address someone with "How you doing kid "
Thank you
Agreed Manchesteras far as Preston= Ahh Kid.
Liverpool= Laa... Lad.
North and south have totally different talk jay wouldn't be using that termanolgy
Thank you Lisa love
You're doing such a great job with All you do in trying to bring justice. I don't believe Jay wrote that message. I feel someone had his phone and sent it
Thank you very much!
Countys really are the same as your states.County lines just means crossing into a different county.
You REALLY think JS sent those messages & snap chats himself ?? I honestly believe he was dead at that point sad as that is ❤❤
I find the timing questionable for sure
Mali = slang for Somalian
Hi mamma d
Since we are rewinding, can you go look at that down the rapid guy, callum.
Videos he has put out since. Is there a chance he actually has been doing homework?
Ive looked at a couple of videos. From his time in tenerife to today.
Not many, I don't spend all day on my phone.
Looking at some from the island, and from today.
So.
Look at his wording, not his footage. Knowing he is going to keep things to himself for his own safety on the island.. his words. Is he trying to say something?
And, I've just watched a video that he posted today from Turkey.
Ive put some timestamps in his video that make me wonder if he is still doing homework.
It very well could be nothing, but some words used .
And where he goes and eats, he hasn't positioned his phone on the food, its pointed at the table at the back.
Again, I've timestamped in the comments at a few words that stood out to me. Im probably reading too much into this. When I get a chance, I will look at more of his videos. I just thought, hmmm. Maybe there is something there?
Why is CT stalking RUclipsrs questioning the narrative? Suspicious behaviour
Great Question and thank you for tuning in!~
"CUZ" is slang like "bro" is ..meaning a friend/hommie
Hi from the uk
Hello there!
GO ON LADY! U TELL THAT DRUNK 'STORYTELLER' WHAT'S UP & HE'S NOT WELCOME!! WE'RE ALL WITH YOU XX :D
Oh yeah & DVC GIVEAWAY xx
Thank you and Much Love to you!~
#justiceforjay
Hi Violet thanks for asking 💙💙💙
I see waves of wats going on in uk happening in U.S.
Very unlikely jay would use those words in a message.
But also unlike ayub to use the word "scram" for food. That IS a northern word. Hmmmm
Watched live thank you ....DVC giveaway...
Thank you for watching!~
Kids is slang for a male or males. Our kid is slang for brother
Wow, is that still in use, lm old and we used it as kids