Persona 3: Reload | P3MC VS Elizabeth [Ultimate Boss]

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  • @Suhcra-Sensei
    @Suhcra-Sensei  7 месяцев назад +240

    (This is only a General Guide for this fight)
    Sorry, haven't nailed down any patterns or Persona other than Telos that are good for this fight
    MC LV 99 Normal
    Equips- Orpheus Telos
    Weapon: Excalibur(+100 Sp)
    Body Armor: Armor of Light (+ High Mag resistance)
    Accessory: Divine Pillar (Halve All damage; You cannot evade)
    she can only be challenged in a New Cycle playthrough or your initial one if you've beaten the reaper.
    Make sure whatever persona you use does not Null, Absorb, or Reflect anything. Don't even use -Karn skills. She will kill you.
    (Your equipped Persona can have these resistances, but if Elizabeth's attacks are ever drained, Nulled or reflected; Game over)
    Get a calculator and start subtracting all the damage you do, starting from 20,000. Get her below 13,000 the first time, and she'll begin to instakill you the next turn unless you quickly get her under 10,000HP
    I HIGHLY recommend a persona with the skill "Enduring Soul" and wearing a piece of equipment with "Endure" so you can get a second chance on this part. In fact I'm pretty sure this is mandatory for this fight.
    After that she'll heal, so Start back again at 20,000HP and calculate down.
    Get her down below 10,000 again and This time prepare yourself for a 9999 Megidolaon. You NEED to have an Enduring Soul or Endure active to survive this part or it's over.
    After she does this, QUICKLY use armageddon. Timing for your special attacks is Key!!
    (Any long pauses are me putting how much damage I've done in a calculator.)

    • @albertosanches5945
      @albertosanches5945 7 месяцев назад +7

      I'm sorry why can you only resist? Does the game cheat if you have anything other than resist/weak/neutral?

    • @watwotwhat7489
      @watwotwhat7489 7 месяцев назад +24

      looks like she still has the same rules in FES

    • @FoxHoundUnit90
      @FoxHoundUnit90 7 месяцев назад

      She has a strict rule set that if you break(such as having null) she’ll instantly kill you

    • @fleurdetristesse5218
      @fleurdetristesse5218 7 месяцев назад +10

      jesus christ

    • @Suhcra-Sensei
      @Suhcra-Sensei  7 месяцев назад +34

      @@albertosanches5945 Yes resists are prefered here
      It is okay to have a persona equipped that can Null, Drain and reflect but if Elizabeth's attacks are ever stopped by these during the fight, she'll 9999 Megidolaon you until you die.

  • @Yammatti
    @Yammatti 7 месяцев назад +345

    Who would have thought atlus would make calculators meta again

  • @nuspas
    @nuspas 7 месяцев назад +401

    11:54 Atlus really loves giving super bosses Diarahan when at 50% HP, huh...?

    • @ShadowOfMassDestruction
      @ShadowOfMassDestruction 7 месяцев назад +17

      Based

    • @paperluigi6132
      @paperluigi6132 7 месяцев назад +52

      Since they only do it once, it’s to give them more health than they are able to. In this case, Elle-P basically has 30,000 HP.

    • @dragonvessel6510
      @dragonvessel6510 7 месяцев назад +18

      Originally you had to calculate her HP so that this wouldn't happen since the original Elizabeth could cast Diarahan infinite times, to do this you had to equip a ring which had a certain chance of reflecting melee attacks, reaching the point where her health is almost halfway through you should let her hit you until his health is below 9999 and use Armageddon to finish her

    • @Xiaolruc
      @Xiaolruc 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@dragonvessel6510 'Equip a ring'? I know there's accessories that can provide High Counter, but that would necessitate not being able to equip Divine Pillar. For the original Persona 3, it's better to acquire High Counter as a skill on one or more personas.

    • @CallofDutyBlackOps28
      @CallofDutyBlackOps28 7 месяцев назад +2

      if it makes you feel any better; back when square was just Squaresoft, SaGa 1's final boss, God/Creator had Cure4 on him and he could do it anytime he wanted.

  • @himerin3576
    @himerin3576 7 месяцев назад +222

    Also another tip is DON'T bring any Counter/High Counter skills, it counts as repel and she will instantly Megidolaon

    • @steam-powereddolphin5449
      @steam-powereddolphin5449 7 месяцев назад +17

      It didn't count against you in older releases (and, with some luck, could even be used to bypass her heal).
      Are you saying for certain that having a Counter-type passive does count against you in Reload?

    • @himerin3576
      @himerin3576 7 месяцев назад

      @@steam-powereddolphin5449 yep its confirmed. They fixed the counter strat

    • @littlebloodymooneporo
      @littlebloodymooneporo 7 месяцев назад +33

      ​@@steam-powereddolphin5449just having them doesnt trigger her megidolaon, but if by chance the skill activates and reflects her damage, its megidolaon time

    • @steam-powereddolphin5449
      @steam-powereddolphin5449 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@littlebloodymooneporo But does that matter if you precisely calculate your damage until she's barely above 10,000 HP, switch to your High Counter Persona, repeatedly guard and heal, and pray that she physically attacks and takes reflected damage on her second action of any turn?

    • @kichiroumitsurugi4363
      @kichiroumitsurugi4363 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@steam-powereddolphin5449Her 9999 Megidolaon triggers automatically if the rules are broken, and it doesn' take up her two actions. If you nreak the rules, 9999 Megidolaon will be used instantly

  • @milesstorzillo7650
    @milesstorzillo7650 7 месяцев назад +172

    With these battle quotes, Elizabeth may as well be a Yugioh character.

    • @recordkeepertype0662
      @recordkeepertype0662 7 месяцев назад +30

      Ahem: DORO! PERUSONA CARDO!

    • @zuheiender4494
      @zuheiender4494 7 месяцев назад +5

      Makotos jp voice is also Edo Phenex's from GX so this can also be considered his graduation duel akin to that of Jadens

    • @zetamangads
      @zetamangads 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@zuheiender4494Aster/Edo shoots himself:cmon Destiny Hero Dystopia Guy
      Jaden: WTF
      Meanwhile
      Makoto: I Fusion summon Black Frost

  • @DarkKirby8976
    @DarkKirby8976 7 месяцев назад +352

    Elizabeth: I bring you Megidolaon.
    Makoto/MC: I bring you... ARMAGEDDON!!!!

    • @Skyrura
      @Skyrura 7 месяцев назад +11

      Based MK reference

    • @BlufireTheifprince
      @BlufireTheifprince 7 месяцев назад +9

      Also a Persona 4 arena reference.

  • @haisex3
    @haisex3 7 месяцев назад +459

    Can’t believe they didn’t have a trophy/achievement for beating her lol

    • @newguy335
      @newguy335 7 месяцев назад +41

      Wait, they don't?!

    • @namieblinker5922
      @namieblinker5922 7 месяцев назад +26

      Okay now I'm disappointed.

    • @CrustyNug01
      @CrustyNug01 7 месяцев назад +74

      I'm guessing it's because they don't want achievements to be hidden behind hard challenges for the completion ist or achievement hunters.
      Maybe Idk I'm not Atlus.

    • @General_C
      @General_C 7 месяцев назад +15

      Royal's achievements sucked too... What's the big idea?

    • @itsbosco1025
      @itsbosco1025 7 месяцев назад +50

      @@General_C But royal got the in game achievement in the thieves den

  • @enrique16ish
    @enrique16ish 7 месяцев назад +110

    Elizabeth: And now-
    Makoto: *HERE COMES LUCIFER AND SATAN*
    Elizabeth: OH FU-

  • @easyscout8369
    @easyscout8369 7 месяцев назад +165

    I love how Elizabeth is arguably one of the hardest boss fights in not just Persona but JRPGs in general. And she has a Pixie and a Jack Frost

    • @levintine777
      @levintine777 7 месяцев назад +39

      Nah, that title still goes to Demi-fiend from Digital Devil Saga

    • @neoterumi4772
      @neoterumi4772 7 месяцев назад +46

      They said ONE of, not THE hardest boss. Also if you wanna be technical Persona and SMT are separate worlds

    • @Lonewulf321
      @Lonewulf321 7 месяцев назад +7

      Pretty easy compared to DDS demifiend though

    • @Lonewulf321
      @Lonewulf321 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@neoterumi4772 unless you believe in the multiverse theory

    • @blurb9319
      @blurb9319 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@Lonewulf321there does exist a multiverse in SMT but Persona seems to be an entirely separate continuity considering the lack of YHVH (Yaldaboath being the closest)

  • @Did_No_Wrong
    @Did_No_Wrong 7 месяцев назад +224

    As usual Elizabeth is still one of the hardest Velvet Attendant fights.

    • @robjoker3786
      @robjoker3786 7 месяцев назад +36

      She is a joke in p3 reload unfortunately, they make our girl dirty with those nerfs :(

    • @CallofDutyBlackOps28
      @CallofDutyBlackOps28 7 месяцев назад

      she's still unbelivabley powerful for most folks.@@robjoker3786

    • @JohnnyFish971
      @JohnnyFish971 7 месяцев назад

      U keep forgeting the male attendant too

    • @quadro3904
      @quadro3904 7 месяцев назад

      what nerfs and why?

    • @JohnnyFish971
      @JohnnyFish971 7 месяцев назад +8

      @@quadro3904 less scripted and she no longer uses many high damage moves and uses buffs and debuffs going from what i seen

  • @Skeppy4126
    @Skeppy4126 7 месяцев назад +62

    2:43 It Was So Powerful It Took The Quality To Hell

  • @waltuh-bi6gw
    @waltuh-bi6gw 7 месяцев назад +60

    Makoto: ... you call THAT a "great finale"?
    THIS is a great finale.
    Elizabeth: ... uh oh.

  • @romiarkan450
    @romiarkan450 7 месяцев назад +84

    Glad it's still a strictly 1v1 fight

    • @JohnnyFish971
      @JohnnyFish971 7 месяцев назад +16

      U can bring more
      Trust me

    • @sergiosalazar8702
      @sergiosalazar8702 7 месяцев назад +6

      @@JohnnyFish971💀

    • @hazumi8739
      @hazumi8739 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@sergiosalazar8702 not wrong thought

    • @goroadachi9489
      @goroadachi9489 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@JohnnyFish971 Elizabeth: Pools open, water’s fine.
      Yukari: No thanks, we’ll just watch.

  • @shafayetahmed6955
    @shafayetahmed6955 7 месяцев назад +72

    Good to know Igor gives a living wage to the attendants

  • @light6666
    @light6666 7 месяцев назад +49

    the most chad powerplay any persona user can do.. having a pixie of all things deal 9999 damage with medigoloan

  • @rahmansepti540
    @rahmansepti540 7 месяцев назад +434

    Since infinity didn't exist,her fight got nerf

    • @marsh1270
      @marsh1270 7 месяцев назад +5

      What is infinity ?

    • @rahmansepti540
      @rahmansepti540 7 месяцев назад +114

      @@marsh1270 fusion spell/theurgy can tank Elizabeth megidolaon

    • @mysteryboii4869
      @mysteryboii4869 7 месяцев назад +53

      Yep they nerf Masakado's Megidolaon which is shame

    • @Mehetti
      @Mehetti 7 месяцев назад +106

      ​@marsh1270 infinity was a fushion spell with Vishnu and Anata that, when casted, made you completely invulnerable to everything, including almighty attacks. This was improtant as Elizabeth would summon Masakado at the end of her cycle of personas to deal a megidolaon that did 9999 damage, basically unsurvivable without infinity

    • @marsh1270
      @marsh1270 7 месяцев назад +7

      @@Mehetti so she is stronger now ?

  • @hennyspiderman9974
    @hennyspiderman9974 7 месяцев назад +53

    Elizabeth story needs its conclusion. I know she still looking for a way to unseal Makoto

    • @Weigazod
      @Weigazod 7 месяцев назад

      That's the conclusion I believe.

    • @huleyn135
      @huleyn135 6 месяцев назад +1

      atlus will never reach a conclusion because it'd be a major story beat that they can't milk with a spinoff. and they won't do a persona 3-2 , they prefer new casts with mainline games.

    • @hennyspiderman9974
      @hennyspiderman9974 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@huleyn135 they can include her in persona 6 and make Erebus the antagonist

    • @ZX-Gear
      @ZX-Gear 6 месяцев назад +1

      Persona Fans don't deserve it.

    • @orlandomoreno6168
      @orlandomoreno6168 6 месяцев назад

      I'm surprised she can't just megidolaon Erebus out...

  • @anthonythomas305
    @anthonythomas305 7 месяцев назад +35

    Elizabeth is still the ultimate Velvet Attendant in Persona

    • @kichiroumitsurugi4363
      @kichiroumitsurugi4363 7 месяцев назад +1

      I'd argue Lavenza is way harder than all iterations of Liz, and it's not even close

    • @CHOCOLAROLL
      @CHOCOLAROLL 7 месяцев назад +1

      The twins in p5:

    • @qazisgone7292
      @qazisgone7292 6 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@CHOCOLAROLLthey're the easiest though

    • @smurphy55656
      @smurphy55656 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@kichiroumitsurugi4363how so? Feels like her lizs fight is way harder with her rule set

    • @kichiroumitsurugi4363
      @kichiroumitsurugi4363 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@smurphy55656 Lavenza by comparison has RNG shenanigans. Failing to crit every turn during the crit phase, getting critted yourself, Final Guard proccing too early leaving you defenseless vs her Megidolaon, quite a few things can go wrong

  • @chaosbye
    @chaosbye 6 месяцев назад +8

    fun fact: if you try to do this fight on peaceful mode, the moment she brings out pixie is when you get stuck in a "you hit her once then she casts diarahan then casts megidolaon and you die then revive" cycle that's annoying as fuck

    • @thenerfkid9228
      @thenerfkid9228 5 месяцев назад

      Make that one hit Armageddon. Fixed 9999 damage.

    • @BBlader
      @BBlader 5 месяцев назад

      ⁠​⁠@@thenerfkid9228She has 20000 HP. Armageddon isn't one-shotting her. ^^"

  • @lichrallyanaitmareluv9116
    @lichrallyanaitmareluv9116 7 месяцев назад +27

    FINALLY MY SWEET BLUE ANGEL IS REMASTERED

    • @sandsan9838
      @sandsan9838 6 месяцев назад +5

      have you seen the fight? more like blue devil. and thats one of the reasons shes my favorite attendant.

  • @MoleBradRy
    @MoleBradRy 7 месяцев назад +9

    The "Die For Me" part is new. And you don't die instantly from Masakado. Probably cause it would be difficult to put up a shield every few rounds.

  • @cyberqueen7784
    @cyberqueen7784 7 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you for the guide! Super helpful! This is a fight I’ve always wanted to do. The last time I fought against the Velvet Room attendants was Caroline and Justine in P5 vanilla.

  • @mahiru20ten
    @mahiru20ten 7 месяцев назад +50

    It's odd that they don't have Infinity in this game, and many other fusion spells too. Guess they adjusted the fight due to the facts some fusion spells are missing (like Masakado's Megidolaon being nerfed)

    • @bronzeoliniisnotfunny7885
      @bronzeoliniisnotfunny7885 7 месяцев назад +17

      I'd be willing to bet it's because there's already so much going in this game & with how big it probably already is, that they just couldn't put all the OG fusion spells in, or they just didn't have enough time to put them in. I imagine making the animations/sounds & all that for each fusion spell was hard enough as it was.

    • @JohnnyFish971
      @JohnnyFish971 7 месяцев назад +6

      Wait for Ultimate edition in a year or so

    • @NoCturnusBB
      @NoCturnusBB 7 месяцев назад +11

      To be fair, half of the Fusion Spells were pretty disappointing and forgettable, and could be replaced by ordinary moves

    • @mahiru20ten
      @mahiru20ten 7 месяцев назад +15

      @@NoCturnusBB and all the returning spells other than Cadenza and Armageddon are improved, like Jack Brothers now also dealing almighty damage instead of just knocking down enemies, Best Friends now gives Charge and/or Focus instead of Heat Riser effect, Scarlet Havoc and King & I ignore resistance (which is probably why they don't bring the other physical/elemental fusion spells), and Trickster also deals massive almighty damage instead of just giving random ailments

    • @noob-kun7768
      @noob-kun7768 7 месяцев назад +2

      Infinity as theurgy? Who would use it lol

  • @Emperorwolf999
    @Emperorwolf999 7 месяцев назад +6

    damn, the "Super-Megidolaon" is even a different colour

  • @VBandit47
    @VBandit47 7 месяцев назад +19

    She did NOT just full heal herself 12 minutes into the fight

  • @niccologomez5199
    @niccologomez5199 7 месяцев назад +33

    I would kinda aruge that the fight is about equal in difficulty to the original, if not a bit more difficult even with her not spamming her 9999 Megidolan anymore
    First, Makoto no longer has 999 HP and SP at level 99. Second, it seems to be they have made it you HAVE to let Elizabeth do a full heal now unlike in the base game. Third, she is now packing severe spells instead of the heavy ma-spells, and also uses debufs and buffs. Also to add is that now that Eiha and Kouga are in the game, you lose 2 turns of no damage to breathe in. And all that and she still has her very strict no null/repel/drain rule. She more that lives up to her FES counterpart I would say

    • @goroadachi9489
      @goroadachi9489 7 месяцев назад +9

      I think the rule is actually more lenient as you can bring the Personas as long as they don’t drain or repel her attack in the fight. Also I think the fight is easier due to the fact that it’s less scripted

    • @goroadachi9489
      @goroadachi9489 7 месяцев назад +12

      The original Elizabeth I’m pretty sure is nigh impossible without a guide

    • @mysteryboii4869
      @mysteryboii4869 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@goroadachi9489Can confirm, I remember using a guide back then and even a calculator just for this fight in the FES

    • @amarioguy
      @amarioguy 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@goroadachi9489that was actually true in FES as well, the failure condition is the same, bringing the personas was fine as long as they didn’t null an attack she was using

    • @catloaff
      @catloaff 7 месяцев назад

      I think Elizabeth also does smaller damage now, she used to be able to deal with 100+ damage even with Orpheus Telos equipped

  • @mhicorivera7802
    @mhicorivera7802 7 месяцев назад +16

    Elizabeth : Levanza take note this is how you mentaly torture your guest even if you lose you still win

  • @TakeTheWorld21
    @TakeTheWorld21 7 месяцев назад +10

    Ah, the lovers quarrel that laid the groundwork for future Wild Cards and their Velvet Room attendants

  • @UnlimitedFlyers
    @UnlimitedFlyers 7 месяцев назад +9

    Elizabeth has been BRUTAL since P3; looks like she hasn't changed at all, despite all these years in between!

  • @UchihaLevelTwo
    @UchihaLevelTwo 7 месяцев назад +4

    Hey, does anyone know where to farm more Dead Moon's Husks (the base crafting item you need to craft Armor/Boots of Light/Lucifer's Blade, etc?

    • @devinthomas4068
      @devinthomas4068 6 месяцев назад

      I feel like they only give you 3 specifically for the MC to use

    • @omega_bass
      @omega_bass 6 месяцев назад

      you can get them on floor 251 from the green chest. drop chance is low though so you can save before opening it and reload until you get it

  • @nicolasreyesgarcia6609
    @nicolasreyesgarcia6609 6 месяцев назад +3

    Glad to know that Atlus still loves to torture its players

  • @justingraeb2206
    @justingraeb2206 7 месяцев назад +8

    I've been waiting for this

  • @adamrobinette6832
    @adamrobinette6832 6 месяцев назад +1

    When any assistant of Igor steps out of his office and decides they want to test you, the shit is undoubtedly beyond 'on'. Elizabeth is definitely my favorite of Igor's assistants. The others are cool too. But her whole story is the most fun, she is effortlessly cool, and her cheerfulness through this whole fight is fantastic. "Enjoy my special service." LMAO!

  • @ProbablyAlmond
    @ProbablyAlmond 4 месяца назад

    Honestly every velvet attendant fight makes me wonder what a fight to the actual death with them would be like

  • @Zerobasssoul
    @Zerobasssoul 7 месяцев назад +2

    Haven't had to break out the calculator in a long time. Idk if I missed this or if it's time to face my original smt trauma

  • @JerichoTheCity
    @JerichoTheCity 6 месяцев назад +1

    She's my favorite velvet room attendant

  • @alejandrorangel6758
    @alejandrorangel6758 2 месяца назад

    One thing that really doesn't make sense is that why do I have to block to dodge the dark insta kill? Why doesn't it let you dodge with ali dance and buffs?

  • @saltyismymiddlename97
    @saltyismymiddlename97 6 месяцев назад +1

    I have my built to withstand final battle not for her. Only 800 yen left in my pocket as I spend it all on diamond before heading out for jan 31 and I've used all my incense; I only equipped +unshakenwill armor mc. Now I have to fuse res only helel, damn. Maybe next playtrough

    • @petewhitejr3467
      @petewhitejr3467 6 месяцев назад

      This game marking us go broke like I was in my room for 4hours fighting this boss to the point were I was loading my mind🤬🤬

  • @lynlongoria
    @lynlongoria 7 месяцев назад +8

    I need the image you used for the cover of the video, without editing please

    • @matius851
      @matius851 7 месяцев назад +2

      0:51
      Not the exact frame but it's really close

  • @kalemuncher9425
    @kalemuncher9425 7 месяцев назад +4

    I'm having trouble on this fight, I'm doing it without Orpheus Telos on merciless, and when Elizabeth switches to her second phase she has different dialogue and her turn order changes to using megidolaon pixie every 4th turn
    Am I doing something wrong? My strategy otherwise is pretty solid and I'm consistently landing about 1.5k damage on her per cycle but I can't account for the megidolaon pixie since that removes any chance of me getting her down to below 10k HP

    • @addenanda
      @addenanda 5 месяцев назад

      her 2nd phase cycle for merciless probs different than any other difficulties

  • @zuheiender4494
    @zuheiender4494 7 месяцев назад +3

    Elizabeth is a duelist! This can be considered Aster/Edo Phenex's graduation duel at the end of GX akin to Jaden/Judai duel with the Pharoh.

  • @Riodile
    @Riodile 7 месяцев назад +4

    Ah neat! So there really IS a fight with Elizabeth. Thank you for showing us this!
    By the way, does she also have a special All-Out Attack like Caroline, Justine, and Lavenza? Or maybe hers is a Theurgy?

    • @noob-kun7768
      @noob-kun7768 7 месяцев назад +4

      You need the sees special cartridge to perform theurgy

    • @mhicorivera7802
      @mhicorivera7802 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@noob-kun7768 to the point that Takaya carry a evoker to simply use Theurgy when you fight him for the last time

    • @phrofile3613
      @phrofile3613 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@mhicorivera7802 he probably got that special cartridge from ikutsuki

  • @TheSalleh84
    @TheSalleh84 7 месяцев назад +2

    At least... Persona 3 have the honor Persona 3 MC to fight Elizabeth solo different to Persona 4 or 5 MC fight with teammates to fight Margaret or Twin/Lavenza

  • @uzhioss
    @uzhioss 6 месяцев назад +1

    Bro i got messiah so i thought this shit gonna be easy but when i attacked elizabeth, she mf kills me instantly

  • @destructor3152
    @destructor3152 7 месяцев назад +31

    This girl would honestly destroy nyx

    • @JohnnyFish971
      @JohnnyFish971 7 месяцев назад +22

      Game wise yes shes stronger
      Lore wise Nyx cant be destroyed

    • @JoniZhask
      @JoniZhask 7 месяцев назад +8

      Nope, nyx was the greatest threat in the persona title second only to nyarlatothep if u count the first 2 installment.

    • @dalaxdercrisper957
      @dalaxdercrisper957 7 месяцев назад +3

      Even Elizabeth can easily beat Nyx, it still couldn't beat it because nyx represent death itself. Only Makoto who had obtain Universe arcana can truly end it. Yes this is seal with himself

    • @dragosanders4234
      @dragosanders4234 7 месяцев назад +12

      She at least goes out her way to kill erebus every year with thanatos but can't permanently kill him because he is the manifestation of mankind's grief

    • @jameswilliams6008
      @jameswilliams6008 7 месяцев назад +1

      Every final boss in persona games are comparable when you really think about it

  • @xenosaga8436
    @xenosaga8436 6 месяцев назад +1

    I think not having full theurgy when entering the fight might be needed as well. I took off high counter and anything that nulled status effects and she still megidoloaned me. Wasn't until I did all of that and emptied the theurgy gauge that she started the battle normally

  • @FerrySter
    @FerrySter 7 месяцев назад +4

    This is what i've been waiting for!
    After seeing the battle..
    Is it just me or she got nerfed badly? She not use Megidolaon that instant kill at the end of using debuff skill and her atk so low. I didnt remember battle her she do 5 damage to mc like wth? Its 200+ per atk if i remember it right

    • @veeshadow
      @veeshadow 7 месяцев назад +1

      Her Megidolaon is altered since you don't have Infinity either. She will start that on 13000 HP checkpoint...
      This version allows you to reduce damage more than Vanilla version did. Not to mention you can Heat Riser and Debilitate.

    • @FerrySter
      @FerrySter 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@veeshadow really a big nerf

    • @KB-qv2cb
      @KB-qv2cb 7 месяцев назад +1

      Either way is still hard from what I heard :^​@@FerrySter

  • @Emperorwolf999
    @Emperorwolf999 7 месяцев назад +2

    i took a close look, and the card 'Liz draws when summoning during the fight is a fool Arcana

  • @Zymandis
    @Zymandis 4 месяца назад

    "Hit me hard and then hit me harder Makoto Daddy. I will give you a good reward if you do." - Elizabeth

  • @villainreacts936
    @villainreacts936 7 месяцев назад +5

    this fight seems easier than the original since you kinda had to be lucky too before. waiting for a counter on her second turn to bring her in armageddon range and the damage is way different.

  • @genericname4168
    @genericname4168 5 месяцев назад

    Roses are red, this game feels like Pokemon
    I bring you, Megidolaon

  • @theultimategamer95
    @theultimategamer95 7 месяцев назад +7

    Aight, so maybe you know. But just got to the end of NG+ with all the preparation for the fight done, did the reaper request and nothing. Any idea what I did wrong? Very frustrated over it tbh. Nothing on Google.

    • @XanderGray1990
      @XanderGray1990 7 месяцев назад +11

      Had the same issue. Elizabeth needs to have visited your room in order to unlock the quest alongside beating the reaper.

    • @theultimategamer95
      @theultimategamer95 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@XanderGray1990 Ofcccccccc, so my ng+ was a complete waste then, lmao. Such stupid requirements man, and I thought Margaret in P4 was bad.
      Appreciate the response though!

    • @barryjamesmusicPH
      @barryjamesmusicPH 7 месяцев назад

      hi. is this confirmed? finish the elizabeth take to your room before she could be fought? no matter if it's new game plus or 1st playthrough?

    • @ethantrotto6668
      @ethantrotto6668 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@theultimategamer95She's actually the easiest attendant to fight, you don't even need to do a NG+, you just have to do her requests. I was able to fight her on my first playthrough

    • @theultimategamer95
      @theultimategamer95 6 месяцев назад

      @@ethantrotto6668 Yeah I know, I only did NG+ to bloat my HP to max cause I thought it'd be the same as in FES, lmao.

  • @skrellb9659
    @skrellb9659 7 месяцев назад +12

    Now try it on merciless 😂

    • @dablazingbryan5559
      @dablazingbryan5559 6 месяцев назад

      I noticed that too. I thought that was just max endurance but no, that’s just Peaceful cuz there’s no way you mitigate the damage THAT much, unless…

  • @nekon_ravenfox
    @nekon_ravenfox 7 месяцев назад +2

    hold the fuc* a minutes was that no am i seeing things or at 1:22 did i see satanael the evolved persona for the mc of persona 5 did i just see sh*t someone tell me im not going nuts

    • @notyoran
      @notyoran 7 месяцев назад

      It's part of one of the dlcs

    • @nekon_ravenfox
      @nekon_ravenfox 7 месяцев назад

      @@notyoran well lease im not going nuts thank you for telling

  • @rexx0465
    @rexx0465 7 месяцев назад +1

    From what i saw from other's playthtrough, you still can block her insta kill die for me with some equipment. But you can't block her other attacks

    • @kichiroumitsurugi4363
      @kichiroumitsurugi4363 7 месяцев назад

      Yeah. Blocking ailments is fine, and instakill is an ailment

  • @xSharpW
    @xSharpW 6 месяцев назад

    I love the fact she uses the cards to summon Personas instead of...well...shooting herself. It'd be funny but it's cool that it's like a "teaser" for Persona 4...reshuffled? Idk lol.

  • @AverageEggmonEnthusiast
    @AverageEggmonEnthusiast 7 месяцев назад +3

    Is getting Orpheus Tellos the same as the original? (All SL maxxed out)

  • @little_phoenix-8127
    @little_phoenix-8127 7 месяцев назад +2

    Here we goes The Elisadeath......

  • @ThiguSilva
    @ThiguSilva 7 месяцев назад

    For some reason, even though I don't have any null, ab, ref skills or itens the first attack she uses is hit kill. I back the save and go to another day, but i always get hit kill in the first move and can't even try. i dont know if it's cause i am lvl 89 and dont use orpheus or if its cause i have other personas, but this keeps happening.

  • @Terensworth
    @Terensworth 6 месяцев назад

    I dunno why, but all I can think of is 'Man, Makoto seems to breaks his back every time he takes a hit, judging by the motion he makes.'

  • @maxlvl2644
    @maxlvl2644 5 месяцев назад

    Idk how they got the original VA to play Elizabeth but its beautiful T.T

  • @mmhmmmyearight7183
    @mmhmmmyearight7183 6 месяцев назад

    My theurgy attacks would do up to 5000 damage in critical that helped alot but calculating end to use armagedon at the end was hard af

  • @Skampidoo
    @Skampidoo 7 месяцев назад +1

    Ooo I was waiting for this!

  • @bothdoorscares3878
    @bothdoorscares3878 7 месяцев назад

    Hello there. May I ask about the general patterns available with her fight in this? Is there some sort of pattern behind it the entire fight or is there some mixup later on?
    I am planning to look into an optimized way to beat this fight, y'see.

  • @barryjamesmusicPH
    @barryjamesmusicPH 7 месяцев назад

    do you need to finish certain number of requests to challenge her on the 1st playthru? or just beat reaper? im on jan31 beat reaper. and no request 101..

    • @Rangerj04
      @Rangerj04 6 месяцев назад

      Did you finish the last monad door on the 255 floor

    • @Darki13
      @Darki13 6 месяцев назад

      you need to new game+ i think

    • @Rangerj04
      @Rangerj04 6 месяцев назад

      Did you accept her request to beat the reaper?

  • @allswrite3954
    @allswrite3954 24 дня назад

    I'll show you MEGIDOLAON-DYNE

  • @SnailBot
    @SnailBot 7 месяцев назад +1

    Question, can you use Armageddon when she around 19,00 or lower to force out phase 2?
    Then use soma to continue the fight.

    • @HYBNP
      @HYBNP 6 месяцев назад

      No, use Armageddon will left you just 1hp, you will die right away because it Eli turn.

    • @SnailBot
      @SnailBot 6 месяцев назад

      @@HYBNP I thought she gonna Dirahan first

    • @HYBNP
      @HYBNP 6 месяцев назад

      @@SnailBot She have 2 action per turn =))

    • @phrofile3613
      @phrofile3613 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@HYBNP unless you have enduring soul maybe?

    • @HYBNP
      @HYBNP 6 месяцев назад

      @@phrofile3613 if Eli fail below 50% hp and you cant one-shot her next turn, she will use megidolaon over and over again. So no cheat Armageddon here

  • @paperluigi6132
    @paperluigi6132 6 месяцев назад

    Are fusion spells like in Vanilla/FES, where you need the required Personas in your stock to use them?

    • @hwanniggles187
      @hwanniggles187 5 месяцев назад

      No. They are revamped as your Theurgy skill list. All you need is to have the required Personas in your Compendium

  • @DemonLord99204
    @DemonLord99204 6 месяцев назад

    For some reason I wasn’t dealing damage even she got debilitated like you did and I had the personas except telos but how did you deal damage?

  • @richardusedward1475
    @richardusedward1475 7 месяцев назад +4

    So there is no Vishnu and Ananta combo in this game?

    • @drewlaw2192
      @drewlaw2192 7 месяцев назад

      To be fair using a limit break for one turn of invincibility instead of damage feels like a waste

  • @thebandit6886
    @thebandit6886 7 месяцев назад

    2 questions, what are the ultimate weapons in this game and how do you get them? I just fused lucifer and no option to make Lucifer's Blade at antiques?

    • @tranlewlinign9592
      @tranlewlinign9592 7 месяцев назад +1

      Some personas has a heart on the top, that means it need to level up to a certain degree to create their special item. By the way you need the greatest material too

  • @Ilia_Salnicov
    @Ilia_Salnicov 7 месяцев назад

    I have one question. Why then I watch fight with Elizabeth, their are only Makoto and Elizabeth? This boss is harder with party members or what?

    • @NurulSera
      @NurulSera 7 месяцев назад +8

      The fight is strictly 1 vs 1. Elizabeth’s request for this fight specifically asks you to go alone, and if you try to bring any party members Elizabeth will insta kill you with a 9999 Megidolaon

  • @firelordofkek4554
    @firelordofkek4554 7 месяцев назад +4

    Why blocking die for me? Kills pretty fast?

    • @JohnnyFish971
      @JohnnyFish971 7 месяцев назад

      Insta Kill from Alice? Hallo

    • @dalaxdercrisper957
      @dalaxdercrisper957 7 месяцев назад

      It's a instant death spell. Die for Me for Alice has high chance of instant death so it would prudent to equip yourself with null death spell

    • @kichiroumitsurugi4363
      @kichiroumitsurugi4363 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@dalaxdercrisper957To be precise, 70% odds

    • @dalaxdercrisper957
      @dalaxdercrisper957 7 месяцев назад

      @@kichiroumitsurugi4363 yeah especially you're fighting solo here. It would be too risky without proper equipment.

  • @JR384
    @JR384 7 месяцев назад +3

    Unrelated question, are exclusive moves transferrable in the game? Orpheus Telos is using Morning Star here and considering the origins, I would think that's exclusive to Helel.

    • @pit2992
      @pit2992 7 месяцев назад +5

      I think Orpheus Telos can learn any skill

    • @Odin2077
      @Odin2077 7 месяцев назад +1

      Or mod i guess

    • @blueraine21
      @blueraine21 7 месяцев назад

      i havent touched the remake yet but as far as i remember, you can fuse lower persona and use tri/cross-fusions persona to make orpheus telos.. For the morning star, you have to fuse down Helel alot so you can pass it to base orpheus ... I playes fes alot before and you have to fuse many times to cycle the skills... there's plenty of guide in google you should check it out..

    • @connorc5613
      @connorc5613 7 месяцев назад +11

      Orpheus Telos’ gimmick is that it doesn’t have any skills beyond victory cry naturally. In return, it can inherit every skill in the game

    • @JR384
      @JR384 7 месяцев назад

      @@connorc5613 So like, Die For Me!, Black Viper, etc. are all free game?

  • @Sphealfan88
    @Sphealfan88 6 месяцев назад

    Still the only boss ive needed a calculator to beat

  • @zeronime284
    @zeronime284 5 месяцев назад

    Casting Armageddon at the end is cannon event 😂😂

  • @cgaminganims7046
    @cgaminganims7046 7 месяцев назад +5

    Does she still punish you and one hit your face?

    • @bronzeoliniisnotfunny7885
      @bronzeoliniisnotfunny7885 7 месяцев назад

      I believe she does have the null/repel/absorb rules like in the OG Persona 3, so I think she very much can still punish you & one hit your face.

    • @kichiroumitsurugi4363
      @kichiroumitsurugi4363 7 месяцев назад

      Yes, if you have immunity or better to whichever attack she used

  • @TanatosBoy
    @TanatosBoy 6 месяцев назад

    I have a question, I did a new game but I don't have any persona or Objects

  • @Mavuika_Gyaru
    @Mavuika_Gyaru 6 месяцев назад

    Assuming you dont do anything that triggers her super megidolan, does she use it after a certain amount of turns?

    • @blackquill9776
      @blackquill9776 6 месяцев назад +1

      She uses it at a few set times.
      The first guaranteed time is when she hits a certain threshold for the first time and if you can't do enough damage to her to reach the next HP threshold then she can use it multiple times in that phase. It's basically an enduring soul/endure check followed by a DPS check. If you can't get her hp to the next threshold quick enough she'll use it again. I believe you get two turns to achieve this.
      In this video, they actually bypassed this entire 2nd phase by hitting the next threshold immediately which is the most optimal way to deal with it.
      The next guaranteed one is I believe after she fully heals herself and gets to 50% hp/under 50%. This is the "Grand finale" one, it's also an endure/enduring soul check as there's no other way to get around it. Also quick tip; endure and enduring soul proc seperately so having both on a persona is extremely helpful for this fight

  • @risekujikawa7763
    @risekujikawa7763 6 месяцев назад

    this is such a numbers fight lol. If you have a calculator and know the restrictions this fight is so easy

  • @robjoker3786
    @robjoker3786 7 месяцев назад +10

    I knew they would nerf her but they went too hard with that nerf :(

  • @FaizalKuntz
    @FaizalKuntz 7 месяцев назад

    Im going to have so much fun doing a low level challenge

  • @yoshi357lol9
    @yoshi357lol9 7 месяцев назад +1

    Is the Mechanic if you bring a Party Member then she will kill you instanly still there

    • @kichiroumitsurugi4363
      @kichiroumitsurugi4363 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yes

    • @yoshi357lol9
      @yoshi357lol9 7 месяцев назад

      Thanks
      @@kichiroumitsurugi4363

    • @bayzenmusic1627
      @bayzenmusic1627 6 месяцев назад +1

      you can’t enter the fight with party members, it will ask you to exit monad passage

    • @kichiroumitsurugi4363
      @kichiroumitsurugi4363 6 месяцев назад

      @@bayzenmusic1627 This is also true in Portable. Though if you start fught via mod menu, Liz does use 9999 Megidolaon in response to bringing party members

  • @tranlewlinign9592
    @tranlewlinign9592 7 месяцев назад

    How could you predict when she will use "Die For Me" and guard?

  • @thebandit6886
    @thebandit6886 6 месяцев назад

    What shoes are you wearing? Kind of crucial to not share that....

  • @ramiking745
    @ramiking745 7 месяцев назад

    I know damn well I'm not attempting this fight myself (I tend to get too angry when shit doesn't go my way and goes too long).

  • @minatoarisato9627
    @minatoarisato9627 7 месяцев назад +2

    Dims i want ask you how to get best equipment

  • @brendansage6876
    @brendansage6876 6 месяцев назад

    Can you fight her in a fresh playthrough, or only New-Game-Plus?

    • @devinthomas4068
      @devinthomas4068 6 месяцев назад +3

      It can be a fresh playthrough. You have to do all her dates and kill the Reaper

  • @VatchGaming
    @VatchGaming 6 месяцев назад

    Can you not bring Orpheus with Death skill?

  • @EYESSEEU
    @EYESSEEU 6 месяцев назад

    I play on merciless difficulty. It's almost impossible to defeat her. It took me over 5 hours!. But sadly there's no achievement for it.

  • @marcosjimenez5315
    @marcosjimenez5315 6 месяцев назад

    I tried this at level 92 and she used Pixie with Megidoloan dealing 9999 damaged...

  • @amri007able
    @amri007able 7 месяцев назад

    Tutorial how to unlock elizabeth secret boss?

  • @freethinkerpodcast1798
    @freethinkerpodcast1798 6 месяцев назад +1

    Wow! How did you get Elizabeth's Megidolan to do such little damage to you? I was at level 99 with decent armor, and it hit me at 9,999 on Easy difficulty!

    • @riverdoge
      @riverdoge 6 месяцев назад +4

      If you null/drain/reflect any of her damage dealing attacks she switches to using 9,999 damage Megidolans

  • @KawaiiJackHonne
    @KawaiiJackHonne 7 месяцев назад +3

    *nervous laughing*

  • @gettingbetterlife8963
    @gettingbetterlife8963 6 месяцев назад

    Is she as difficult in all difficulty settings or does it vary

    • @zeronime284
      @zeronime284 5 месяцев назад

      Nearly unwinnable in merciless, might need more time for somebody to win it in merciless

  • @SpitfireSama21
    @SpitfireSama21 7 месяцев назад

    did they really removed the card from "Die for me !" ??

    • @Zalaphrax
      @Zalaphrax 7 месяцев назад

      Die for Me's animation has changed every game it's in, so no surprise. Doesnt look the same in P5, P5 Strikers, SMTV, P4, and now here, where she's only had cards in P4 and SMTV

  • @kierenbuckley370
    @kierenbuckley370 7 месяцев назад

    I'm not looking forward to this fight, took me ages to beat Elizabeth in Fes and Portable

  • @zakusmanali3036
    @zakusmanali3036 6 месяцев назад

    How did you get Debilitate on Helel?

  • @rubenbrito4166
    @rubenbrito4166 7 месяцев назад

    Finished this fight tonight too

  • @Kamsae
    @Kamsae 7 месяцев назад

    damn shes hitting 9999 damage on me, im level 99 with 97 messiah.