SpaceX wasn’t the first aerospace company to develop VTOL capable rockets, it was simply to first to successfully put payloads into orbit and recover the first stage.
@@Big0nion303 Not really, there’s not a lot of scope for design deviation. It’s a long cylinder like pretty much every launch vehicle, has legs out of necessity and grid-fins, which were first used on launch vehicles by the SU in the 1960s AFAIK. There were a few cone and polyhedron shaped VTOL launch vehicles in development in the past, such as the MD DC-X for example, however they were the exception rather than the rule.
How did they copy? Any credible Rocket scientist and country with the resources can do what SpaceX is doing, Russia, France,Germany and Japan. Rocket technology can be developed by any nation with the scientist and resources, you sound ridiculous 😮
@@eman67rp You: How can anyone copy? Also you: look how easy it is to do what spacex is doing. My brother in Christ, that is what copying is. It literally looks like an F9. Oh well, china has once again proven they can only steal their way into the future. F the CCP.
Yeah,@@eman67rp... Any credible rocket scientist. That's why SpaceX came up with the idea and accomplished it and has landed hundreds of rockets over and over while the rest of the rocket industry is still trying to compete... Some still trying to reach orbit,much less land their boosters.
u sound like a moron. China is loaded with hackers, cheaters and liars. They steal every technology do your research. They are a bunch of robots that reverse engineer shit someone else invents.
All businesses in CHINA are partnered with the CCP genius...There is no such thing as a private enterprise in CHINA so the comparison of China catching up to SPACE X holds 100% true
It doesn't matter if they open source or not. China steals the info regardless, either by paying insiders or covert cyber warfare. They haven't done anything independently, without stealing info, in the past 100 years. They just are not a creative people as Europeans are.
The chinese advantage is that they basically dont have to worry about administrative and bureucratic problems to test and launch their rockets, while spacex has to face multiple permits and evaluations... Also Chinese dont have to worry about copyrights they just dont care
Yeah, but China cares about Coruption. It means not care about how to make Good Products and Services but how to corrupt in a safety way.!!! 🤔🤗😘🌏🌎🌍😎🌶🌶🌶
Yea the Soviets are heroes indeed. First orbital launch vehicle, first artificial satelite, first rocket ignition in Earth's orbit, first probe to impact the Moon, first images of the Moon's far side, first probe launched to Venus, first man in orbit, first probe launched to Mars, first woman in orbit, first EVA, first radio telescope in space and there are many more "firsts".
@@necsoiub don't forget about Laika. All those milestones showed that space travel was feasible. Objectively, Americans managed to put people on the Moon thanks to all the Soviet victories and advances.
@@neitomonoma4699 the soviets were also the ones who kickstarted the space race. its a shame Russia hasn't achieved more with its space industry. however they are attempting to kick start their space industry with more funding
I remember Elon mentioning this. He is actually welcoming other companies taking a page of space x. To him securing the survival of humanity is top prio. And whatever gets us deeper into space is good in the long run. I really love to see how Space X has ushured the whole industry globally into a new space race. And I am all here for it. On the other hand, you can also interpret his stance as confidence. Elon knows how far Space X is ahead of literally anyone. So I can imagine he is not losing sleep over other companies copying them.
Are you serious? That is just a line to boost his image. He couldn't care less about humanity. He cares about money and having his name written in the history books. He is the worst kind of narcissist. People who care about others don't give themselves 47 Billion dollar bonuses.
@@G45H3R exactly, many people sadly not aware of this and easily fall to his words, in the end of the day he's one of the greediest capitalist in the world
I feel the reason it is moving so fast is because of regulations. SpaceX was able to build an entire straship faster than the US fish and wildlife agency able to decide whether they could launch it.
Elon ran up against the speedbump of State Bureaucracy because Elon pissed off DEMs with his mouth and 'X' ... a large and powerful State Apparatus is deadly to economic and technological advancement
Bruh regulations like those are important. In a relentless race to get out of our planet we shouldn’t forget to protect what’s left of it. Also really? Regulations? Would you be okay with rocket parts landing on your house. Cause that’s what China does. They don’t care who they hurt. That’s real communism
Regulations are usually great to have. My workplace is always preparing for these audits. They help companies improve. Without them, you can't ever trust large companies to do the right thing. Right-wing pundits always bring up regulations as a boogieman/strawman argument about communism to get you on their side, but people with half a brain should realize it's not regulations halting progress, it's lobbyists, lawsuits over patents, and high employee and resouce costs in the US. My workplace supplies SpaceX with finished parts and our components all come from Mexico and SpaceX's components we receive all come from China. China will soon make our finished parts, and take over, because even though they are in the trial phase, everything is far more advanced and SpaceX willingly works closely with them; they hardly every get closely involved with our plants' internal' workings.
@@ariihauu_mrs Communism/Socialism are probs really the same in the modern era. Gov't has figured out that they do not need to OWN the means of Production is they can CONTROL the means of production. Gov't leans on the MSM and Social media to control the message. Gov't regulates in ways that control the business behavior. Gov't taxes hard to feed itself and control behavior Gov't legislates in ways that benefit the sympathetic corporate entities.
Pois é, mas aí não teríamos concorrência, que é a causa geradora do progresso a médio e longo prazos. Yes, but then we wouldn't have competition, which is the cause of progress in the medium and long term.
We will probably go very far in the near future if we are based on the principle that all human beings are the same and free from bias, which in practice is difficult to achieve.
@@ReffvvCff "The Chinese Communist Party (CCP), officially the Communist Party of China (CPC), is the founding and sole ruling party of the People's Republic of China (PRC)." - Wikipedia You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
@@_PJB_ lol. Check their policies. They are purely capitalistic. Only diff b/w chinese and american capitalism is America is an open capitalistic society whereas china is closed capitalistic society.
Its much easier when you already have the plans, or, at least, go in the trails of someone else and mimic his engineering and design decisions, even though you do not necessarily know why he made them.
You guys remember the Russians were first in space so The USA copied them and beat them to the moon! Giddy up go girls stop crying about this and “Git ur done” ! 😎👍🇨🇦
No way we’re acctually like getting Chinese Ripoffs in the Space Industry 💀 Edit: and even before GTA VI 💀 And really didn’t expect this comment to blow up like this. But thanks 🚀
It seems to be the other way around 🤔 Either way it’s great that the space race is back on! Exciting to see the technology developed by all who are involved
Keep thinking that. You'll be among the many that act surprised when they surpass the US as the most advanced country in the world. Then, you act like we didnt do the same thing when we took all of the Nazi labs, and factories, and grabbed up all their scientists, along with the Jewish scientists that were running for their lives. Then later Soviet scientists defecting. We've been stealing research and tech for over 100 years.😂 China has something that we dont. They have a worker and corporate culture that is far more efficient than our own. That's how they've been catching up, and that's how they are going to pass us, very soon.
The touchpad of your screen through which you have written this sentence is made in china and yeah you reuse those letters on the screen again and again 😜
China have its own space station. Something US never had. The ISS is mainly Russian. If anybody copied something it is the spaceX employees who are Chinese immigrants bought by musk.
There's a history of Communist dictators going back to Russia Copying our bombers. It's been estimated the Chinese steel between 225 and 600 billion every year. We spend 3.5 X more on R&D. Whether its a car part or the whole car. Open secret.
Tbh, I'm surprised it took them this long. Expect a Chinese "Starship" pretty soon. I wonder how long it will take the great American general public to realise how important Spacex and Tesla actually are for the USA.
@ryelor123 no steal it is way more likely. Truth be known they have probably already stolen it. They are not capable of developing it on their on......!
Yeah exactly !! Like Airbus just copied Boeing … some of the aircrafts look exactly the same 😂😂😂😂 with similar wing designs and engines mounted on those wings!!! 😂😂😂
@@schallabeer What happens to their space program? Boeing fuc*s it up big. A window fell off during the take off. World class screwed up and two astronauts are stuck in space and crying like babies. 42 years ago. China had nothing. I mean nothing. 42 years after. See what China has accomplished in space program. Way ahead of NASA !
Wrong! Dozens of 3rd world countries (eg Vietnam, Mexico, Indonesia...) can make ballpens. What is really difficult is making the ballpen tip which is a precision product which very few countries can do.
@@Chewy-chew The original court apothecaries wanted to develop a medicine to prolong the emperor's life, so the royal formula, whether it could really live forever or not, was confidential. In particular, the emperor paid a huge amount of financial and human support for this, of course, do not want to be easily shared.
@@MrBenedict317Did SpaceX reach Alpha Centauri? How was it possible for people thousands of years ago to reach space, just as how is it possible for SpaceX to reach the nearest star now?
Well, they just rebuild what SpaceX had to figure out first. Imagine being the first guy inventing a car after multiple failed attempts, just to see your neighbor making notes.
@hovsh4740 the legal way. By either doing it yourself or buying the tech. You can't just completely rip off someone else's work that has taken decades to do.
All rockets do the same thing in pretty much the same way. All this Yank prating about the Chinese imitating them is getting a bit tiresome. You got your original rocket technology from Germany via ex Nazis like Wernher von Braun and it hasn't changed much since, just been refined.
Except, Falcon 9 is still using Kerosene in Merlin Engines. This is one example of why it seems to me, they could put Raptors on the Falcon, and increase its performance, Mass to Orbit, etc! Maybe even have less "Soot" to clean off from the Re-entry Engine Burns and Landing Burns! Kerolox is "Dirtier" than Methalox!
@@alexaraducan The exact opposite. The FAA has been constantly holding up launches. If there was no FAA or if the FAA were a lot less burdensome, then Space X would've launched a lot more rockets, including test rockets, which would give Space X a lot more data to work with. Instead, Space X has barely launched any test rockets because of the FAA.
The basics that they are "coping" were invented by a son of a Polish noble send to Siberia for taking part in uprising against Tsar Russia. He got bad hearing and was home schooled and his father was working as forester. Konstantin Tsiolkovsky was inventing that stuff 100 years ago living inthe middle of nowhere and later he was already writing about humans living in space and how that gonna influence our spiecies. Ciołkowski invented fully metal monoplaine which resembled planes produced 20 years later, but no one wanted to build this plane as it was before first flight of the Wright brothers... Tsiolkovsky rocket equation is from 1903. He also invented multi stage rockets and idea to use mix of oxydiser plus fuel to power the rocket... If you find article about him in wikipedia and switch to Russian you can find there his book from 1914 and on the cover you have a diagram of the rocket and this diagram shows that it suggests the use of oxygen to cool the heated elements of the rocket and provide atmosphere for the crew(and yes that what were people doing later). There is also showed cover of hiscosmic philosophy 1928 book from 1928 “The Will of the Universe. Unknown intelligent forces.".
@@chang8690 yeah they do it to everyone since china is rising it's their turn this time. I saw a video on yt that said how china stole US high speed rail technology. I was like China has meglev US don't even have a high speed rail
As an African, who loves the space industry, and has no preference in the beef between the west, China and Russia, I think this is great news. In order to have a future in space, the cost must go down. And the Chinese are very efficient at making things cheaper.
@@xgxfhzxfuhfjgfhgfbro elon explicitly stated that anyone can copy their rocket designs. He wants competition because it will only benefit humanity by increasing our access to space
I mean copying isn't being ahead, the design itself is a Falcon 9 with Starship Steel and Vulcan Paint, just not to talk that the cargo of the introduction video was exactly like Starlink Satellites!
When you do something first, you have to figure everything out. When you do something second,(or later) you have something you can copy to shorten the design time.
It's quite a bit easier and faster to develop something if you know that designs that seem feasible have problems because others already built and tested them, preventing you from making the same choices/mistakes.
The way i look at it is i could steal the recipe to martha stewarts best dish, but im no martha stewart, my copy cant beat the real thing. Same same but different
I’m sorry but a hop and a fully reusable first stage are just a we bit different. Also it is hard to get ahead of someone when you’re following in their footsteps.
@@Parallellook your English is horrible. And they reuse rockets all the time. China can’t even build buildings without cutting corners and using styrofoam as wall material, do you really think they’re not cutting corners there? Why do you think the term “made in China” is synonymous with cheaply made or poor quality.
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@@ParallellookThat's not even readable, plus the bar is 10yrs in the future
@@danielleisrael Daniel - neither you nor I will live to see space mining and colonisation - they are both a fantasy for the foreseeable future. Space mining would be wildly uneconomic, and we are nowhere remotely close to having the technology required for colonisation whatever Musk is claiming.
@@danielleisrael With respect, you are being wildly over-optimistic if you believe that space mining and colonising are anywhere in our immediate future. Mining would be wildly uneconomic, and we are decades away from the knowledge and technology required to colonise Mars on any scale.
Funny that you say that. Space flight development went backwards when the USA and Russia started working together. It stayed the same (or worse) for decades, until SpaceX came into the scene and made huge leaps that everyone thought was impossible (like landing rockets). Without SpaceX the USA wouldn't even have a usable launcher at the moment and would still depend on the Russians for launches.
Nothing much has every been accomplished in spaceflight through cooperation. Nearly all progress was made out of fear that the other guy would drop a nuke onto our cities from 150 miles.
@@nuevision8 If it weren't for capitalism, you'd be sitting around a campfire picking fleas off your infested carcass and trying to find a couple tree nuts for dinner. Every single thing you have flows from capitalism.
First heard this kind of headline when watching Top Gear - "its craaaazy how quickly China is developing their cars. Theyve done in 20 years what it took the rest of the world to do in a century!" Yeah, thats what happens when the technology already exists.
@@jshepard152 Don’t say it too early. Whatever you see now on Boeing’s problem is just a tip of iceberg. Wait for 10 years, we can revisit the comments here and see if you still have same level of confidence. For now, I hope you are very confident to board more Boeing planes when traveling rather than whining for Airbus at the gate.
They are still pretty far behind other companies on this like RocketLab, let alone SpaceX. They saw it was possible and are now sailing in pre-charted waters.
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Honestly if they succeeded thats amazing. If not, thats in expected cuz they speedrun buildings like tofu and quality control is non-existent to me
If that's the case how is "speedrun buildings like tofu" relevance to anything in the video?
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@@leezhieng Because they build rockets really quickly and they don't often test and engineer them enough. Plus it was a euphemism, they are obviously a lot stronger than tofu.
.When I was a kid, everything that was made in Japan was considered to be junk. What most folks didn't know is that we simply imported their cheap stuff. Now, look at how people react to "MADE IN JAPAN." Well, I think the same is true today about MADE IN CHINA.
If China is joke, then why do I see 70% of names are Chinese on Scientific AI research papers releasing nowadays, only If someone could understand Research Papers are no joke but needs Inventors, I use TTS, STT, Text to Video, Image to Video and AI tech.
But how many of those patented ideas are of any use? And if a USA research company filed a patent in China I would expect the information it contained to be given to a Chinese company the next day to replicate.
China should be thanking all of the world for “donating”all of their space and other technologies to them, so they can bypass research and development costs.
The Chinese must be very very smart to invent technology far ahead of us. How come we as a great free nation caint keep up with these people. It seems they invented everything and wè can is hopefully copy them!
These are not stupid people. I would not underestimate them, but consider them partners. Let's talk about how much we have on common rather than differences.
Fascinating, with this kind of speed and leaps in technology from all the countries involved, its conceivable that the next phase of wars to further exterminate each other from orbit will arrive sooner than expexted everyday!
I hope that China doesn't build their rockets like all the other items made in China. You now the China made stuff you buy & you try to use it once but it breaks on you & then you throw it in the corner of the garage for a week or two before selling it in a yard sale or just throwing it away.
@@napobg6842 Hey, by your logic, N1 was the grandfather of Starship, but no one says that SpaceX copied them right? Starship has 33 smaller engines and uses grid fins and hot staging, all of which were predated by the N1. So you are biased.
This is like saying the kid behind you copying your test is ahead of you.
World olympics champions !
We all win in a “Space race”
True
SpaceX wasn’t the first aerospace company to develop VTOL capable rockets, it was simply to first to successfully put payloads into orbit and recover the first stage.
@@Steven-vo4eeit’s not about China copying self landing rockets. It’s that the zhuque 3 looks identical to the falcon 9
@@Big0nion303 Not really, there’s not a lot of scope for design deviation. It’s a long cylinder like pretty much every launch vehicle, has legs out of necessity and grid-fins, which were first used on launch vehicles by the SU in the 1960s AFAIK.
There were a few cone and polyhedron shaped VTOL launch vehicles in development in the past, such as the MD DC-X for example, however they were the exception rather than the rule.
Dude , space x just showed china the proper way to use chop sticks😂
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You win the comment awards 😂😂😂
Wait? Was this all just a flex towards the 1,3 Billion Chinese?
@@daarksideyt I'm sure they would laugh. It's a good joke.
Elon himself said that China is very close to him . And they are by far the fastest advancing technology wise.
It’s faster when you have a competitor with a 20 year head start for you to copy
How did they copy? Any credible Rocket scientist and country with the resources can do what SpaceX is doing, Russia, France,Germany and Japan. Rocket technology can be developed by any nation with the scientist and resources, you sound ridiculous 😮
@@eman67rp You: How can anyone copy?
Also you: look how easy it is to do what spacex is doing.
My brother in Christ, that is what copying is. It literally looks like an F9.
Oh well, china has once again proven they can only steal their way into the future. F the CCP.
Yeah,@@eman67rp... Any credible rocket scientist. That's why SpaceX came up with the idea and accomplished it and has landed hundreds of rockets over and over while the rest of the rocket industry is still trying to compete... Some still trying to reach orbit,much less land their boosters.
@@eman67rpYou don't possibly believe the Chinese came up with this design by themselves, do you?
@Darion350 did the US came up with design for its first rocket on their own, no that got it from the V2 from Germany
It's not China catching up to SpaceX, it's Landspace. If we apply the same logic, Landscape is catching up with the US.
@@joosiekawk how you know
u sound like a moron. China is loaded with hackers, cheaters and liars. They steal every technology do your research. They are a bunch of robots that reverse engineer shit someone else invents.
All businesses in CHINA are partnered with the CCP genius...There is no such thing as a private enterprise in CHINA so the comparison of China catching up to SPACE X holds 100% true
Chinese companies are controlles by the governement
It's landspace not landscape although that is a better name
And this is why spacex does not publish any patents as Elon said it would be ridiculous as China would just copy their stuff and not care.
The same is true for Tesla patents. Everything is open to the world to copy.
definitely same idea but different design, if this consider copy, all company in this world are doing the same thing.
It doesn't matter if they open source or not. China steals the info regardless, either by paying insiders or covert cyber warfare.
They haven't done anything independently, without stealing info, in the past 100 years. They just are not a creative people as Europeans are.
They also have a responsibility to keep it private because of their defense contracts. They're basically building ICBMs.
How is the copy they're using methane gas it was not done before
The chinese advantage is that they basically dont have to worry about administrative and bureucratic problems to test and launch their rockets, while spacex has to face multiple permits and evaluations... Also Chinese dont have to worry about copyrights they just dont care
Yeah, but China cares about Coruption. It means not care about how to make Good Products and Services but how to corrupt in a safety way.!!! 🤔🤗😘🌏🌎🌍😎🌶🌶🌶
They also haven't innovated significantly on their own for 200 years so I doubt we too worried
Or worry about where random pieces or failed launches happen to land, say in the middle of a village field with people working in it at the time.
100%
Something the West should learn from hey.
It's easier to do something once someone has proven it to be possible. Pioneers are the true heroes.
@@neitomonoma4699 Yes. Totally true. I.e. knowing that the A bomb was feasible was a great advantage for the followers.
That isn't important, Chinese are pragmatic.
That is like nukes, no one cares about who created it, only who can get one.
Yea the Soviets are heroes indeed. First orbital launch vehicle, first artificial satelite, first rocket ignition in Earth's orbit, first probe to impact the Moon, first images of the Moon's far side, first probe launched to Venus, first man in orbit, first probe launched to Mars, first woman in orbit, first EVA, first radio telescope in space and there are many more "firsts".
@@necsoiub don't forget about Laika. All those milestones showed that space travel was feasible. Objectively, Americans managed to put people on the Moon thanks to all the Soviet victories and advances.
@@neitomonoma4699 the soviets were also the ones who kickstarted the space race. its a shame Russia hasn't achieved more with its space industry. however they are attempting to kick start their space industry with more funding
I remember Elon mentioning this. He is actually welcoming other companies taking a page of space x. To him securing the survival of humanity is top prio. And whatever gets us deeper into space is good in the long run.
I really love to see how Space X has ushured the whole industry globally into a new space race. And I am all here for it.
On the other hand, you can also interpret his stance as confidence. Elon knows how far Space X is ahead of literally anyone. So I can imagine he is not losing sleep over other companies copying them.
这就是计算题，你计算出来 还不许我去计算吗？ 哈哈 真的搞笑。
Are you serious? That is just a line to boost his image. He couldn't care less about humanity. He cares about money and having his name written in the history books. He is the worst kind of narcissist. People who care about others don't give themselves 47 Billion dollar bonuses.
@@G45H3R exactly, many people sadly not aware of this and easily fall to his words, in the end of the day he's one of the greediest capitalist in the world
China's motto, "If you've got it, we'll copy it!"
According to the Roman Empire, it’s a good method of advancing one’s technology
They actually have a saying that goes "if you can cheat, then cheat"
@@TeamEmperor why would they create the wheel from scratch lmao
Its a form of flattery ❤
@@TeamEmperor well Elon did make all his patients open source and allows anyone to use and advance them.
They’re not catching up, they’re building Temu rockets
"I'm mocking US billionaires, temu temu"😂
😂😂
People called the copy action as "shan zhai". So they "shan zhai" another product successfully.
Terrible
That's the comment 😂 well played, sir 👏
I feel the reason it is moving so fast is because of regulations. SpaceX was able to build an entire straship faster than the US fish and wildlife agency able to decide whether they could launch it.
It makes me wonder if it's really china who's the closest to communism
Elon ran up against the speedbump of State Bureaucracy because Elon pissed off DEMs with his mouth and 'X'
... a large and powerful State Apparatus is deadly to economic and technological advancement
Bruh regulations like those are important. In a relentless race to get out of our planet we shouldn’t forget to protect what’s left of it. Also really? Regulations? Would you be okay with rocket parts landing on your house. Cause that’s what China does. They don’t care who they hurt. That’s real communism
Regulations are usually great to have. My workplace is always preparing for these audits. They help companies improve. Without them, you can't ever trust large companies to do the right thing. Right-wing pundits always bring up regulations as a boogieman/strawman argument about communism to get you on their side, but people with half a brain should realize it's not regulations halting progress, it's lobbyists, lawsuits over patents, and high employee and resouce costs in the US. My workplace supplies SpaceX with finished parts and our components all come from Mexico and SpaceX's components we receive all come from China. China will soon make our finished parts, and take over, because even though they are in the trial phase, everything is far more advanced and SpaceX willingly works closely with them; they hardly every get closely involved with our plants' internal' workings.
@@ariihauu_mrs Communism/Socialism are probs really the same in the modern era.
Gov't has figured out that they do not need to OWN the means of Production is they can CONTROL the means of production.
Gov't leans on the MSM and Social media to control the message.
Gov't regulates in ways that control the business behavior.
Gov't taxes hard to feed itself and control behavior
Gov't legislates in ways that benefit the sympathetic corporate entities.
Imagine how successful humanity could be if we all work together 😢
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@@michaelhammers1788- Well said. 👍
But isn’t such thinking the root of communism?
Pois é, mas aí não teríamos concorrência, que é a causa geradora do progresso a médio e longo prazos.
Yes, but then we wouldn't have competition, which is the cause of progress in the medium and long term.
We will probably go very far in the near future if we are based on the principle that all human beings are the same and free from bias, which in practice is difficult to achieve.
Once again, communism could not live without capitalism.
China is capitalist. What are you talking about.
@@ReffvvCff "The Chinese Communist Party (CCP), officially the Communist Party of China (CPC), is the founding and sole ruling party of the People's Republic of China (PRC)." - Wikipedia
You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
@@_PJB_ lol. Check their policies. They are purely capitalistic. Only diff b/w chinese and american capitalism is America is an open capitalistic society whereas china is closed capitalistic society.
@ReffvvCff their socialist and theirs nothing wrong with that.
@@_PJB_ is capitalism a trade mark? China doesn’t care a damn what you are, they just do things to better their country!
Ctrl + C ==> Ctrl + V space program
I mean it’s not like Elon and his team didn’t do that! They took a lot of older nasa studies and old employees to get to this point
China is using Ctrl + X
@@ltpetsema876 but if you look to space X rockets there are lots of inovations, looks nothing like what came before.
@@ltpetsema876so?
First Ctrl + A
Its much easier when you already have the plans, or, at least, go in the trails of someone else and mimic his engineering and design decisions, even though you do not necessarily know why he made them.
China had a virus found in some major company’s exporting data
Take thins with a grain of salt obviously tho
And they don't have the FAA getting in the way!
@JV-pu8kx Just to see something working gives you the incentive to push forward and do the same knowing that your efforts will not get wasted!
You guys remember the Russians were first in space so The USA copied them and beat them to the moon!
Giddy up go girls stop crying about this and “Git ur done” ! 😎👍🇨🇦
Still impressive tho, u gotta admit that
That is the scary part 😬
They are second in technology and in some part excelling 😮
Lets go Americans.
No way we’re acctually like getting Chinese Ripoffs in the Space Industry 💀
Edit: and even before GTA VI 💀
And really didn’t expect this comment to blow up like this. But thanks 🚀
It seems to be the other way around 🤔
Either way it’s great that the space race is back on! Exciting to see the technology developed by all who are involved
Let the games begin 😎👍🇨🇦
Competition is always a good thing
@@tydrives1 It seems the other way around?
How?
They steal everything everyone else does ...
No patent infringement law in China .😂😂
It feels like the first Iron Man when the other governments/militaries tried to create their own “Iron Man” suits
@@josephcrow7516 The rest of the world maybe 10 years from now but Hammer Tech Industries 20 years!
@@josephcrow7516 last tym I checked capitalism owe communism over $800bn.....no?
Reusable and made in China should never be used in a sentence together.
😂😂😂😂
Lmao
Same western propaganda repeated nonstop. Parrots will always be parrots
Keep thinking that. You'll be among the many that act surprised when they surpass the US as the most advanced country in the world. Then, you act like we didnt do the same thing when we took all of the Nazi labs, and factories, and grabbed up all their scientists, along with the Jewish scientists that were running for their lives. Then later Soviet scientists defecting. We've been stealing research and tech for over 100 years.😂
China has something that we dont. They have a worker and corporate culture that is far more efficient than our own. That's how they've been catching up, and that's how they are going to pass us, very soon.
The touchpad of your screen through which you have written this sentence is made in china and yeah you reuse those letters on the screen again and again 😜
Honestly idc who does what I just wanna see more space race scenarios. Exploring the universe is a lot more interesting than waging wars.
How much of this is Chinese tech, and how much is stuff that has been stolen or bribed out of the minds of SpaceX current and former employees?
China have its own space station. Something US never had. The ISS is mainly Russian.
If anybody copied something it is the spaceX employees who are Chinese immigrants bought by musk.
SpaceX isn't allowed to hire Chinese nationals.
Bra most of spacex is just Chinese engineers. Trust there are many of these in China
@@amackzie SpaceX isn't allowed to hire Chinese nationals.
@amackzie You're trying real hard lol. Look at a picture of SpaceX workers... I don't see that many asians, just saying
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Elon has always said he welcomes the competition 😊
There's a history of Communist dictators going back to Russia Copying our bombers. It's been estimated the Chinese steel between 225 and 600 billion every year. We spend 3.5 X more on R&D. Whether its a car part or the whole car. Open secret.
because he know he have non
But he's happy others are trying ...
@@yukit119Competition is actually a good thing. It makes you want to be better ✌️
sure but elon know he had no one, he is way ahead with it! even they copy!but yeah i know what u wana say ofc is competition good@@olindetroit7636
Tbh, I'm surprised it took them this long. Expect a Chinese "Starship" pretty soon. I wonder how long it will take the great American general public to realise how important Spacex and Tesla actually are for the USA.
Long March 9 is basically Starship(the prior iteration was closer to it than the current one).
Isnt it set to launch 9 years from now
Or until they start claiming Chinese borders in space.
I think China will just do the smart thing and buy the rights to make Starships.
@ryelor123 no steal it is way more likely. Truth be known they have probably already stolen it. They are not capable of developing it on their on......!
Funny only how the Chinese can copy paste successfully. US can see Chinese and Russian hypersonic missiles but still cannot copy paste it
That looks almost exactly like a damn Falcon 9
because they 100% copied it. china doesn't worry about things like Intellectual Property.
It looks exactly like falcon 9
Honestly who cares, having competition is important for innovation
@@z.2 funny enough that's exactly what elon says, he doesn't hold any of his rocket tech back from competitors through patents for this reason
Yeah exactly !! Like Airbus just copied Boeing … some of the aircrafts look exactly the same 😂😂😂😂 with similar wing designs and engines mounted on those wings!!! 😂😂😂
Only 8 years later… And they have not even landed a live mission yet.
They did. They successfully sent 3 satellites into orbit on 9 Dec 2023
@@leezhieng they didn't, none of them
@@JoseMaria-dj6pc they did it , the first country to send satellites around the moon and the first to land in the dark side of the moon in 2019…….
@@schallabeer What happens to their space program? Boeing fuc*s it up big. A window fell off during the take off. World class screwed up and two astronauts are stuck in space and crying like babies. 42 years ago. China had nothing. I mean nothing. 42 years after. See what China has accomplished in space program. Way ahead of NASA !
@@starlights006those were Long Marches, not these reusable rockets.
Couldn't make a ballpoint pen till 2017. I can't get that fact out of my head.
Most other countries still can't make any ballpoint pen until now.
Wrong! Dozens of 3rd world countries (eg Vietnam, Mexico, Indonesia...) can make ballpens. What is really difficult is making the ballpen tip which is a precision product which very few countries can do.
@@johnseah5678did you just say he’s wrong then prove he’s right ☠️🤣🤣🤣🤣
Put your head on your knee bro morden world noting are impossible now days
@@leezhiengwhymade ball pen waste of money to better to buy or import from China much2 cheaper
I always enjoy your content. It’s so unique
now we see where the stolen SpaceX data went 😂
@@kamoteph273 cheap Chinese lock used on a door....🤣
@orealpsy lol i think it's imported from Ikea
China can even copy Elon Musk himself !!!
😂😂😂
It had happened, bro
yi long ma
you mean they ALREADY copied elon musk 😂
Are you saying that China has replicated Xspace's liquid oxygen methane rocket recovery technology?
When the Chinese launched fireworks into the sky thousands of years ago, they certainly did not expect to be copied.😅
They did thats why the kept the secret of gunpowder secret for so long
@@Chewy-chew The original court apothecaries wanted to develop a medicine to prolong the emperor's life, so the royal formula, whether it could really live forever or not, was confidential. In particular, the emperor paid a huge amount of financial and human support for this, of course, do not want to be easily shared.
And now theyve learnt to steal IP like no other country in history.@neo_smith
Did the fireworks went to space?
@@MrBenedict317Did SpaceX reach Alpha Centauri? How was it possible for people thousands of years ago to reach space, just as how is it possible for SpaceX to reach the nearest star now?
Well, they just rebuild what SpaceX had to figure out first. Imagine being the first guy inventing a car after multiple failed attempts, just to see your neighbor making notes.
Imagine been in the rocket and hearing your Bluetooth device is ready to pair 😂
😂
Bluetoof connected sussesfully
@@tiktokvibes6969 heard it in that voice 😂
LMAO
Glad this is happening, the Space Race was the best way to get countries interested in space tech. Hope this is our generations space race 2.0.
Well, SpaceX alone did in a decade more than the whole "space race 1.0" did in 60 years.
Lets not make the same mistake our society made last time. People quit caring about moon landings once they were done more than a couple times.
Yes but this isn't a space race. That means that two separate competitors race. This is just theft. It's pathetic and sad.
@@tomeveratt2329how is it theft? so what if china copied falcon 9s landing design? how else would you propose reusable rockets to be made?
@hovsh4740 the legal way. By either doing it yourself or buying the tech. You can't just completely rip off someone else's work that has taken decades to do.
As you said like Falcon 9 could it be the designs were stolen from SpaceX looks awfully similar, like almost a copy and maybe it is
All rockets do the same thing in pretty much the same way. All this Yank prating about the Chinese imitating them is getting a bit tiresome. You got your original rocket technology from Germany via ex Nazis like Wernher von Braun and it hasn't changed much since, just been refined.
Except, Falcon 9 is still using Kerosene in Merlin Engines.
This is one example of why it seems to me, they could put Raptors on the Falcon, and increase its performance, Mass to Orbit, etc! Maybe even have less "Soot" to clean off from the Re-entry Engine Burns and Landing Burns! Kerolox is "Dirtier" than Methalox!
People who are talking about that you do know many of the original researcher are from asia right. Specially east asia
The Chinese would never commit corporate espionage. No, never.
Why make it so easy to copy?
Imagine where SpaceX would be without the FAA.
Nowhere.
@@alexaraducan The exact opposite. The FAA has been constantly holding up launches. If there was no FAA or if the FAA were a lot less burdensome, then Space X would've launched a lot more rockets, including test rockets, which would give Space X a lot more data to work with. Instead, Space X has barely launched any test rockets because of the FAA.
“You can copy my homework, just make it a bit different”
*uses methane*
@@Zapprz "Raptor is powered by subcooled liquid methane and subcooled liquid oxygen in a full-flow staged combustion (FFSC) cycle."
I think its easier to copy than beeing the first one who succed this amazing thing
They’re smart, let the Americans figure out the basics and then make their own rocket right off the bat lol
No they arn't. They make crap .with no idea what is happening.
@@patrickbrady519My humble apologies professor brady. Have mercy on us plebs, provide us your wealth of knowledge. 🛐
The basics that they are "coping" were invented by a son of a Polish noble send to Siberia for taking part in uprising against Tsar Russia. He got bad hearing and was home schooled and his father was working as forester.
Konstantin Tsiolkovsky was inventing that stuff 100 years ago living inthe middle of nowhere and later he was already writing about humans living in space and how that gonna influence our spiecies.
Ciołkowski invented fully metal monoplaine which resembled planes produced 20 years later, but no one wanted to build this plane as it was before first flight of the Wright brothers...
Tsiolkovsky rocket equation is from 1903.
He also invented multi stage rockets and idea to use mix of oxydiser plus fuel to power the rocket...
If you find article about him in wikipedia and switch to Russian you can find there his book from 1914 and on the cover you have a diagram of the rocket and this diagram shows that it suggests the use of oxygen to cool the heated elements of the rocket and provide atmosphere for the crew(and yes that what were people doing later).
There is also showed cover of hiscosmic philosophy 1928 book from 1928 “The Will of the Universe. Unknown intelligent forces.".
@@DQ0651😂
The last time the Chinese did "right off the bat" a pandemic swept the entire globe
A whole country like China
vs
A single company SpaceX
We got China🇨🇳vs SpaceX🚀 fight before GTA6🔥🔥🗣️🗣️
@@I_am_spidy did you hear the name LANDSPACE that's a company.
@@FaiziTimber of course not, US people just like to diss China no matter what
@@chang8690 yeah they do it to everyone since china is rising it's their turn this time.
I saw a video on yt that said how china stole US high speed rail technology. I was like China has meglev US don't even have a high speed rail
@@I_am_spidy it's Huawei vs USA 🤷
@@FaiziTimber Of course "Company" in a country that has control over companies and regulates the market through interventions.
As an African, who loves the space industry, and has no preference in the beef between the west, China and Russia, I think this is great news. In order to have a future in space, the cost must go down. And the Chinese are very efficient at making things cheaper.
Elon the oligarch being so defended here it makes me so sick
Wish more Africa bro will like you
@@xgxfhzxfuhfjgfhgfbro elon explicitly stated that anyone can copy their rocket designs. He wants competition because it will only benefit humanity by increasing our access to space
Slave labor does that, how did that work out for the Africans
You mean stealing everything.
The show “space force” really was ahead of its time
I'm guessing a bunch of it is they aren't hampered by all the regulations SpaceX has to deal with the US gov.
So you're saying that US government sucks? 😃😆😂🤭😁
Can’t be ahead when your innovation comes from your competitors homework.
@@mehnameehjeff6325 What will China ever do that people like you will not say they copied.
I mean copying isn't being ahead, the design itself is a Falcon 9 with Starship Steel and Vulcan Paint, just not to talk that the cargo of the introduction video was exactly like Starlink Satellites!
Did you miss the part where they were the first with methane based rocket or whatever?
@@ex0duzzdid you miss the part where they crashed all their landings? 😂😂😂
@@pixelic409 since when they crashed? They successfully sent 3 satellites into orbit on 9 Dec 2023
@@leezhieng SpaceX has over 6000 in Orbit lil bro
@@pixelic409 yeah after they founded for 20 years. This company is less than 10 years.
Duh ... Landing a diy rocket has been done already. Budget probably under US$ 1000....?
When it comes in from atmosphere and lands on a boat in the middle of the ocean without exploding, I’ll believe it.
@@DrakeTain also, be of large scale AND land accurately. Here, he says landing was few meters away from the pad.
Spacex ran so blue origin could walk. Blue origin walked to China could crawl
You are wrong. SpaceX, China THEN Blue Origin.
China space program: What part of spacex would u like us to copy?
Winnie the pooh: Yes
Hey sour grapes ! What are you gonna do about it ?
Looks like an Energiser AA battery
When you do something first, you have to figure everything out.
When you do something second,(or later) you have something you can copy to shorten the design time.
SpaceX: *Attempt 3...*
Landscape: “Let's goooo!😂”
Landscape almost landed a copy of one of spaceXs smaller rockets, currently space X is testing the starship, which is far more advanced.
It's possible to be "faster"than space x if you're able to copy and paste and you have loads of money and a motivation. Yes I think it's possible
It's quite a bit easier and faster to develop something if you know that designs that seem feasible have problems because others already built and tested them, preventing you from making the same choices/mistakes.
@@roykliffen9674 and if a goverment is funding you
@@nikolaideianov5092 SpaceX got lots of money from the government as well, it is a government funded company.
why is the video quality on this short so low. It seems extremely pixelated.
A super power government vs a single private company 😂😂 and they still a day late
Spacex gets its funding from US gov and Nasa 🤦♂️
The way i look at it is i could steal the recipe to martha stewarts best dish, but im no martha stewart, my copy cant beat the real thing. Same same but different
@@Alonzo334-y6k you do realize spacex builds these from money received from US gov and NASA?
SpaceX has the US
In fact, the Chinese rocket company is also privately owned😂😂
It's a lot faster when you don't have to mess with the f a a
Yeah. Who cares about environmental safety reports or rockets falling on your house?
Seriously, all out regulation in ALL sectors will make us fall behind. Cut taxes, regulations, put tariffs on China, and build shit here stateside.
unbased take
@@weasle2904 Not having restrictions through agencies like the FAA is how you get booster debries blowing up villages.
@@weasle2904 those regulations are in place to prevent crashes and death so good luck trying to remove them
"the Bluetooth device has been successfully connected"
💀💀💀
I once heard someone say something like this "no one wins a war, no one loses a space race"
I’m sorry but a hop and a fully reusable first stage are just a we bit different. Also it is hard to get ahead of someone when you’re following in their footsteps.
F9 started with a hop.
@iamaduckquack The hop happened fairly quickly for both the Falcon 9 and the starship, the real game happens during reentry
you forgetting that the only good teacher is those that make students better than themselves
SpaceX has set the benchmark of reusable rockets ,, resurrecting the space race 👍
a veri veri low banchmark, like teoricali reuse it bat never do
@@Parallellook your English is horrible. And they reuse rockets all the time. China can’t even build buildings without cutting corners and using styrofoam as wall material, do you really think they’re not cutting corners there? Why do you think the term “made in China” is synonymous with cheaply made or poor quality.
@@ParallellookThat's not even readable, plus the bar is 10yrs in the future
This is going to become a wildly over-supplied market. Especially super-heavy launchers, which have very few practical uses.
Often the supply comes before the demand. The Uses will be massive in the near future as space mining and colonising becomes a thing.
@@danielleisrael Daniel - neither you nor I will live to see space mining and colonisation - they are both a fantasy for the foreseeable future. Space mining would be wildly uneconomic, and we are nowhere remotely close to having the technology required for colonisation whatever Musk is claiming.
@@danielleisrael With respect, you are being wildly over-optimistic if you believe that space mining and colonising are anywhere in our immediate future. Mining would be wildly uneconomic, and we are decades away from the knowledge and technology required to colonise Mars on any scale.
They would probably copy SpaceX and launch something similar to Starlink.
@@tullochgorum6323 space mining is possibly the most profitable thing possible lol
Competition is a good thing!
Imagine if all countries actually worked together
Funny that you say that. Space flight development went backwards when the USA and Russia started working together. It stayed the same (or worse) for decades, until SpaceX came into the scene and made huge leaps that everyone thought was impossible (like landing rockets). Without SpaceX the USA wouldn't even have a usable launcher at the moment and would still depend on the Russians for launches.
Working together requires everyone contributing new ideas. So far it is mostly just copying homework.
Nothing much has every been accomplished in spaceflight through cooperation. Nearly all progress was made out of fear that the other guy would drop a nuke onto our cities from 150 miles.
Capitalism will prove to be the second greatest fraud to ever be perpetrated on humanity.
1. Religions
3. Governments
@@nuevision8 If it weren't for capitalism, you'd be sitting around a campfire picking fleas off your infested carcass and trying to find a couple tree nuts for dinner. Every single thing you have flows from capitalism.
First heard this kind of headline when watching Top Gear - "its craaaazy how quickly China is developing their cars. Theyve done in 20 years what it took the rest of the world to do in a century!"
Yeah, thats what happens when the technology already exists.
@@merylsmith8297 China is really good at copying but not leading in technology
Lol they can't even get an airliner certified in another country.
We will see how Boeing can survive in next 5 years.
@@whatever5353 Boeing's survival is not in question. Whatever problems they have, the Chinese have it 1000x worse.
@@jshepard152 Don’t say it too early. Whatever you see now on Boeing’s problem is just a tip of iceberg. Wait for 10 years, we can revisit the comments here and see if you still have same level of confidence. For now, I hope you are very confident to board more Boeing planes when traveling rather than whining for Airbus at the gate.
They are still pretty far behind other companies on this like RocketLab, let alone SpaceX. They saw it was possible and are now sailing in pre-charted waters.
Honestly if they succeeded thats amazing. If not, thats in expected cuz they speedrun buildings like tofu and quality control is non-existent to me
They successfully sent 3 satellites into orbit on 9 Dec 2023
@@leezhiengThat was the long march mission, has no relevance to the rocket you see on screen
If that's the case how is "speedrun buildings like tofu" relevance to anything in the video?
@@leezhieng Because they build rockets really quickly and they don't often test and engineer them enough. Plus it was a euphemism, they are obviously a lot stronger than tofu.
.When I was a kid, everything that was made in Japan was considered to be junk. What most folks didn't know is that we simply imported their cheap stuff. Now, look at how people react to "MADE IN JAPAN." Well, I think the same is true today about MADE IN CHINA.
bro these rockets can barely land + they dont even have a certified airliner yet 😂😂😂
That's partly true but it's been known for a while China are better at mass production than making high quality goods
If China is joke, then why do I see 70% of names are Chinese on Scientific AI research papers releasing nowadays, only If someone could understand Research Papers are no joke but needs Inventors, I use TTS, STT, Text to Video, Image to Video and AI tech.
But how many of those patented ideas are of any use? And if a USA research company filed a patent in China I would expect the information it contained to be given to a Chinese company the next day to replicate.
$100 says china will patent the design and try to sue spacex😂
I still feel their open scorce plans were a mistake
You're not serious. Are you?
By faster, you just mean they have a good ability to copy and paste 😂
China should be thanking all of the world for “donating”all of their space and other technologies to them, so they can bypass research and development costs.
OPP was territory of China since ancient time.
So the US should thank the NAZIS ,and nation with the resources can develop rocket tech. Nothing was stolen
The Chinese must be very very smart to invent technology far ahead of us. How come we as a great free nation caint keep up with these people. It seems they invented everything and wè can is hopefully copy them!
I guess your "overlords" never let you know that a USA company called Space-X has been doing this for the last 10 years?
These are not stupid people. I would not underestimate them, but consider them partners. Let's talk about how much we have on common rather than differences.
Lol no
nuh uh
That's true, hopefully in a better world though. This is not it, not at this state.
CHINA WILL NEVER TOUCH SPACE X
Fascinating, with this kind of speed and leaps in technology from all the countries involved, its conceivable that the next phase of wars to further exterminate each other from orbit will arrive sooner than expexted everyday!
We’ve been doing small scaled recovery landings since the 90s in college. Try a large scale recovery. Totally different game
Come on everyone knows China orders all their rockets From "Temu" 😂🎉
I hope that China doesn't build their rockets like all the other items made in China. You now the China made stuff you buy & you try to use it once but it breaks on you & then you throw it in the corner of the garage for a week or two before selling it in a yard sale or just throwing it away.
Imagine if the whole world came together with the brightest minds to work on space exploration
You can't outpace space x when all you do is copy from them.
First to something is not always the best. The sweet spot is somewhere after R&D but before most of the competition
Every time I look at a product from China all I can think about is a 1 time use
In other words, they found somebody at spacex that can steal the blueprints
Low Earth orbit is a true news..since no1 can pass through the Firmament (aka Orion belt),!
😮Great competitions
China didnt copy space x. Ofcrs Elon didnt gave them pattern. China make their self. They r very hard working people.
The ALM presale is selling fast for a reason. People are really seeing the value in this project. Can’t wait to see what’s next for Alemio Network.
I would love to see a season where the max supply is higher, especially for Zerg. The balance with 200 is fine; I just want to see new things.
this is the beginning of the new era 💫💫
Both are great, working together is the goal, not debating over who is better.
They just copying SpaceX progress 😂
When they get to 400 or so launches but SpaceX’s continuous improvement program will be another 500plus launches down the road!
I’d be curious to know how China got their hands on documents, blueprints, and plans from SpaceX.
They're not above stealing but they do graduate more engineers than the US HAS engineers
People forget that this what its supposed to be about: competition in technology to evolve humanity, not war machines to destroy it
The answer to that is no, China is not catching up to SpaceX faster than SpaceX is innovating.
@@napobg6842 Hey, by your logic, N1 was the grandfather of Starship, but no one says that SpaceX copied them right? Starship has 33 smaller engines and uses grid fins and hot staging, all of which were predated by the N1. So you are biased.
It depends on what’s defined as ‘catching up’.
They may catch up in scale of economy.
But I doubt they may catch up in new thinking.