The Top 10 Greatest Tactical RPGs of All Time

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  • @Xygor
    @Xygor  Год назад +17

    So what are your favorite Tactical RPGs? Were my picks right on, or trash?
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    • @roguerifter9724
      @roguerifter9724 10 месяцев назад

      I'm not sure about the exact order but my number one is Ogre Battle March of the Black Queen (I wish Square Enix would remaster the Ogre Battle games instead of just remaking Tactics Ogre again) Front Mission 3, Valkyria Chronicles II, Shining Force II, and Tactics Ogre would all definitely make the list. Tactics Ogre: Knight of Lodis might make the list because I have a massive soft spot for the game due to it being the first birthday present my best friend got me. Final Fantasy Tactics might make the top ten but it would be below all of the games I mentioned and I'm not sure it would make the cut.
      I enjoy Final Fantasy Tactics (It was actually the first PS1 game I owned because I got it the night I got my PS2) but IMO its vastly inferior to the original Tactics Ogre (which included multiple story paths greatly increasing replay value, a much larger max battle force allowing more variety in force composition, and in the PS1 game an impromptu multiplayer mode which final Fantasy Tactics lacked utterly)

    • @kevinjohnson2054
      @kevinjohnson2054 10 месяцев назад +1

      I'm not sure I would add the Growlanser games to my top 10, but I'd definitely recommend playing that series.

    • @kylehalat9414
      @kylehalat9414 10 месяцев назад +1

      What about Vandal Hearts 2? Everything else was good to fine choices.
      The difficulty of having enemies move at the same time as you move and if you don't outthink the AI, you just missed the enemies. Not utilized very often, but fantastic.

    • @Vayne-b4u
      @Vayne-b4u 10 месяцев назад

      Xygor game like brigandine count as tactical rpg or not?

    • @Sparkbomber
      @Sparkbomber 10 месяцев назад

      A good, solid list. But personally I'd argue that Ogre Battle is too much an RTS with rpg elements to be a TRPG/SRPG. Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis would've made my list along with Phantom Brave for its unique mechanics. Otoh, Vandal Hearts being on here? Major props as that one doesn't get enough love.

  • @brennantanner3825
    @brennantanner3825 10 месяцев назад +40

    Front mission 3 is the one i always revisit. I picked it up at a game stop off the cover alone knowing nothing about. Two stories of 30+ hrs a piece with completely different playable characters and battles within each. It's also mechs with awesome custimization. The following two entries are great too.

    • @TheRobversion1
      @TheRobversion1 10 месяцев назад +5

      Agreed. And the 2 new remakes arent too shabby either. Can wait for the FM3 remake on the switch.

    • @AxionSurge
      @AxionSurge 10 месяцев назад

      Yes!!! The best!

    • @AxionSurge
      @AxionSurge 10 месяцев назад +1

      WAnzer crew rise up!

    • @nateb2715
      @nateb2715 10 месяцев назад +1

      I like Front Mission 4 more but yes, Front Mission games are top tier

    • @DragenGD
      @DragenGD 10 месяцев назад

      So true. FM 2 was better than the 1st and 3 improved on that again to be the best in what was already a great game series.

  • @flippen721
    @flippen721 10 месяцев назад +24

    For me final Fantasy tactics is nr 1. It has that perfect amount of preparing your team before battle, but also size of maps and team size. Music, story and presentation is also top notch.
    Followed by front mission 3. They can be played over and over again. Which i do typically at least once a year still.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your thoughts!

  • @Sinistra359
    @Sinistra359 10 месяцев назад +40

    Vandal Hearts...the sound design, the unique attack animations and the spurting blood. I remember replaying it immediately after defeating the game and getting to lvl 10 just so I could see how the other classes that i didnt choose looked like lol. 😂

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +3

      Right on, such an unforgettable game!

    • @JackHoffing
      @JackHoffing 10 месяцев назад +5

      Support for vandal hearts

    • @Shauddi
      @Shauddi 10 месяцев назад +4

      My fav SRPG of all time, and the one that got me into the genre. I will never forget how defining VH was for me.
      Dragon Force and FFT trail right behind..

    • @davimag2071
      @davimag2071 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Shauddi Exactly the same experience to me! But it was VH2 instead of the first (which I played many years later) :)

  • @alejandromarinetti8622
    @alejandromarinetti8622 10 месяцев назад +11

    Jeane D Arc would definitely make my list. Awesome game!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +2

      That one is really underrated

  • @ZmQuad
    @ZmQuad 10 месяцев назад +10

    Agrias Oaks is one of my favorite characters and longest lasting crushes in VG history

  • @ArchGeek
    @ArchGeek 10 месяцев назад +66

    Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis is arguably the best game in the Ogre series, that sadly most folks have never even played.

    • @drowningin
      @drowningin 10 месяцев назад +4

      I Love knight of lodis. The Emblem system is really cool way of making the same job’s different from one another

    • @rilarr
      @rilarr 10 месяцев назад +1

      I remember this little convince store had a small wall of video games and this was the only one worth renting over and over again

    • @misterretrowolf1464
      @misterretrowolf1464 10 месяцев назад +1

      Really glad you brought that one up. I've just finished it and really loved it. I think it's a lot more accessible than the other massive games. Got to love the summons spells!

    • @bobyrob9261
      @bobyrob9261 10 месяцев назад +3

      100%. My favorite from the series. One of the top SRPGs period.

    • @boobs_n_bots
      @boobs_n_bots 10 месяцев назад +1

      It the only TO game I completed.

  • @spahrstylegaming8245
    @spahrstylegaming8245 2 месяца назад

    Wow, really appreciate this list and the difference in titles I had rarely seen and/or completely forgotten. Awesome job

  • @joshbenoit2859
    @joshbenoit2859 10 месяцев назад +12

    Vandal Hearts to this day is my favorite video game. Its a good example of simple mechanics used well to make a super fun game. And the different class choices feel very distinct from one another which makes the game fun to replay.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +1

      Right on, glad to see so much love for it in the comments!

  • @aaronglazer4173
    @aaronglazer4173 10 месяцев назад +13

    Triangle Strategy is my favorite. I beat it 3x straight as an adult. That just doesn't happen.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +6

      Isn't it such an amazing classic?

  • @ophidianmind333
    @ophidianmind333 10 месяцев назад +9

    These are excellent choices and I love every game on this list. It's also nice to hear the Langrisser series get a shout out, that's a great one and some others I would recommend to people who enjoy the games and series mentioned in this video are Dark Wizard, the Majin Tensei and Devil Survivor spin-offs of SMT, and Disciples: Liberation.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you liked the list, and thanks for your thoughts!

  • @Beshozyajstvennoe_Mylo
    @Beshozyajstvennoe_Mylo 10 месяцев назад +19

    My list: FFT, Triangle Strategy, Fae Tactics, Tactics Ogre, Jeanne d’Arc, Front Mission 3 (story), 5 (mechanics), Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor, Symphony Of War: The Nephilim Saga, The Last Spell

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped 10 месяцев назад

      I really want to try Symphony of War, but I am waiting on that long in the works Switch release.

    • @ncs9753
      @ncs9753 9 месяцев назад +1

      The last spell is not a tactical rpg, it's a roguelite.

  • @awesomereviews1561
    @awesomereviews1561 10 месяцев назад +9

    Vandal Hearts is the most enjoyable T-RPG of all time. Great variety of missions, amazing ost, and the pacing is very good.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Glad you have such good memories of it too!

  • @celestialdemon1316
    @celestialdemon1316 10 месяцев назад +6

    Personally, I disqualify any tactical RPG list that doesn't include Shining Force 2, so I'm glad you included it. Excellent list. One of the best I've seen.

  • @graciaman
    @graciaman 10 месяцев назад +2

    Shining Force III scenarios 1,2, and 3 make the complete game. It’s the best strategy rpg of all-time and has things like your decisions affecting things in later scenarios and wildly interesting combat maps and diverse party members. It was way ahead of its time.

  • @JuanCruz-cb1lf
    @JuanCruz-cb1lf 10 месяцев назад +28

    Hell yeah Vandal Hearts is in the list. Glad to see its getting some love!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +2

      Great game!

  • @sharebear421
    @sharebear421 10 месяцев назад +5

    Great list. My favorite might be jeane d arc on the psp. Super underrated. Arc the lad twilight of spirits as well

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks, and I definitely need to review Jeanne D'Arc soon

    • @funkychimp2791
      @funkychimp2791 10 месяцев назад +1

      Goatoki!?!

  • @sunekoo
    @sunekoo 10 месяцев назад +8

    Yggdra Union is my favourite SRPG. Unique and engaging game mechanics that require you to actually think through and plan each move to win. Seems complicated at first but you quickly get into it. Remaster is out on Steam but play the PSP port if you can- Steam remake has “accessibility features” that dumb the game down quite a bit.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for this suggestion, other people have mentioned it to so I need to give it a try.

  • @Mitsunari4Gunz
    @Mitsunari4Gunz 10 месяцев назад +6

    Great list, I think honestly you can mix and match most the top 10 so long as FFT is number 1.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Hard to argue!

  • @thebossbaby7402
    @thebossbaby7402 7 месяцев назад +2

    Glad to see Genealogy of The Holy War on here. Probably my favorite Fire Emblem game, and it definitely has one of the best stories and cast of characters in the genre. And the scale of the battles and maps you fight on really adds a lot to the experience.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  7 месяцев назад

      Right on! That one is so great.

  • @Auchaser643
    @Auchaser643 10 месяцев назад +3

    Glad triangle strategy is getting well deserved love. Hate how every time a new srpg comes out people will criticize it because its not FFT or tactics ogre. Extremely annoying, a game can exist and set out to do it's own thing, you want FFT? Go play it. Also weird how people complained there was tookuch story.....in an rpg.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +1

      Triangle Strategy is so ridiculously good, it should get even more hype than it does!

  • @femtrooper
    @femtrooper 10 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome list!!!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Thank you! Do you have a favorite Tactical RPG?

  • @ponyote
    @ponyote 10 месяцев назад +3

    FF: Tactics at #1 is really the only answer. Glad you agree. I put in so many hours, and I'll pay it again if I ever can.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +1

      Isn't it an amazing classic?

    • @ponyote
      @ponyote 10 месяцев назад

      @@Xygor I first played in 98 on a PSX with no memory card. I played until the system was starting to overheat, then shut down. That first mission is burned into my memory, and I'm fine with that.

    • @dycedarg19
      @dycedarg19 10 месяцев назад

      I have both the PSX and WOTL. I always go back and play the PSX and try different job classes…but just like trying to avoid being a stealth archer in Skyrim, I always end up going back to my fav job classes: Ramza as squire with summoner as 2nd, Agrias with thief as 2nd, Mustadio as a chemist (he can throw x-potions) with snipe as 2nd, Beowulf with time as 2nd, and Cloud (yes I will grind until he is strong enough) with monk (earth slash, chakra, and revive) as 2nd.

  • @gotinogaden
    @gotinogaden 2 месяца назад

    Recently finished TS, absolutely amazing CRPG, loved the story, the characters (Benedict is my fave!) and the ridiculously good HD-2D presentation. The music is out of this world, ofc.

  • @nimaiiikun
    @nimaiiikun 10 месяцев назад +9

    before clicking I was about to say "I bet this guy won't include Shining Force and Dragon Force". but you proved me wrong. Great list! I just wish both series received more sequels

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you liked it, thanks!

    • @nimaiiikun
      @nimaiiikun 10 месяцев назад

      @@Xygor great video, may the Force be with you

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped 10 месяцев назад +2

      Shining Force 2 too! Most people tend to heap all the praise on the first game, but I too think SF2 is the better game.
      I also adore Shining Force 3... but only Scenario 1 and 2. It kinda falls apart in Scenario 3 sadly. Scenario 1 had the best story and difficulty, Scenario 2 had the best battles, and Scenario 3 had the best characters but a lackluster climax to use them in.

    • @nimaiiikun
      @nimaiiikun 10 месяцев назад

      @@planescaped I still have to finish Scenario 1. I have the cd somewhere at home where my Saturn is stored.

  • @justicerainz
    @justicerainz 10 месяцев назад +3

    Sweet list! I just finished playing bahamut lagoon and I'm just starting ogre battle. To me, bahamut lagoon really felt like the team that made ff6 made another game. I'm really enjoying ogre battle so far!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Great to hear that and thank you!

  • @MaI2Me
    @MaI2Me 10 месяцев назад +15

    Honorable mention: “Brigandine: The Legend of Runersia”

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +1

      I need to review that soon!

    • @RyuseiiTheCrimsonKing
      @RyuseiiTheCrimsonKing 10 месяцев назад +2

      Both brigandine games are good for that, visually i prefer the first brigandine/ grand edition, but the sequel holds up faithfully gameplay wise. They're a lot like dragon force due to being able to pick your faction.

    • @tylorhobbs8920
      @tylorhobbs8920 10 месяцев назад

      Yeah, the sound of Dragon Force makes me think there may be a lot of overlap in the two of them. But the strategic fights in Brigandine are top notch, with the fixed locations giving you a different fight depending on which direction you're coming from, or if you're defending.

  • @MegaMiquelon
    @MegaMiquelon 10 месяцев назад +2

    I still play Vandal Hearts from time to time... such a great game. Personally I'd put Tactics Ogre PS 1 classic above all else. It's the father of FFT after all. I would argue FFT has one massive flaw.... which is the character limit in a battle. Like you get about 15 unique characters, tons of classes, awesome chocobos and dragon classes, but they're just collecting dust in your menu screen. In the end you'll just bring Agrias or Orlandeau or Balthier and bye everyone else.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Right, on, thanks for your thoughts! So true about FFT balance.

    • @dycedarg19
      @dycedarg19 10 месяцев назад

      YES! I have to release everyone real fast so I can’t hear the sorrowful comments! Boco kills me when he says something like he wanted to live in a world co-existing with humans! You will never get to keep all of the new characters either. I always release Rafa and Malak together since they are the weakest…IMO.

  • @iamthehobo
    @iamthehobo 10 месяцев назад +2

    When I first tried to play triangle strategy, I bounced off really hard because it just starts dropping dozens of proper nouns on you at once. It really feels like it would be worth my time if I gave it the chance

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +1

      The dialogue is definitely different than many other games!

    • @MerkhVision
      @MerkhVision 10 месяцев назад +1

      It’s a really good game, but yeah the story really asks you to remember a lot of info.

  • @JanstonCordell
    @JanstonCordell 10 месяцев назад +1

    It is criminal that Vandal Hearts was never remade or continued. I absolutely loved that game and would've ranked it higher than 9th all-time.

  • @lylepup222
    @lylepup222 10 месяцев назад +3

    Great list, I spent a lot of hours playing Ogre Battle and Shining Force games back in the day. Also liked Disgaea.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Glad you liked it!

  • @Rubikant
    @Rubikant 10 месяцев назад +5

    I started watching this thinking “he probably won’t mention one of my favorites of all time, since no one remembers it…” and then, BAM, Vandal Hearts! So happy to see it get recognition! One thing I think needs to be emphasized more about it though is how every single battle has some unique quirk to it. There was almost no such thing as a “normal” battle in that game after like the first 2! Constantly mixing things up like that meant there was never a sense of grinding away and going on auto pilot at any point, which is an issue I have with almost all others including the typical top picks like FFT. The focus was also on the combat tactics much more than building the perfect OP party, which I prefer.
    And then on top of that, Triangle Strategy!! Quickly rocketed up to being in my top 2 alongside Vandal Hearts! And another game that is criminally overlooked!
    Anyway, you have great taste, is what I’m saying :).

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you liked the last, and much appreciated! Vandal Hearts still goes unnoticed by too many people.

  • @JustinLeeper
    @JustinLeeper 10 месяцев назад +2

    My top 10 would definitely include Disgaea 1, King’s Bounty (Genesis), the 360 XCOM, and Fire Emblem: Awakening.
    I just started playing Jeanne D’Arc recently. It seems pretty darn good, too.

    • @Mintcar923
      @Mintcar923 10 месяцев назад +1

      I think that’s the best one I have Jeanne DArc.. Or at least in my top 2 with Three Houses.. Got Kings Bounty 2 on Switch but I’m finding it hard to get the gameplay down

    • @JustinLeeper
      @JustinLeeper 10 месяцев назад

      @@Mintcar923 I have Three Houses installed but haven’t played it.
      King’s Bounty 2 looks a bit hit-or-miss. But as a kid, the Genesis original - which was later remade on PS2 as Heroes of Might & Magic - was my first real tactical game.

    • @Mintcar923
      @Mintcar923 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@JustinLeeper I didn’t even know that.. I’m always learning something new daily here

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +1

      Jeanne D'Arc is pretty underrated!

    • @JustinLeeper
      @JustinLeeper 10 месяцев назад

      @@Xygor And it looks amazing on my Steam Deck uprezzed! 🤩

  • @Wolfburns
    @Wolfburns 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great list. I feel like your favorites are almost the evolution of how the SRPG genre grew lol. I was sleeping on Triangle Strategy so thank you for that!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks, and hope you have fun with that one!

  • @ViridianGames
    @ViridianGames Месяц назад

    You used "Manifold Irons" as the Front Mission music! My favorite track!

  • @Lonewolfz24
    @Lonewolfz24 10 месяцев назад +1

    The ones that stick out for me the most would be SS Dragon Force, SS Shining force 3, PS FF Tactics, PS Front Mission 3, PC StarCraft, PC Warcraft 3, GC Fire Emblem, NES Conflict, SCD Shining Force CD, SG Shining Force, in no particular order.

  • @nerdzone
    @nerdzone 10 месяцев назад +1

    Favourite TRPG? The Battle for Wesnoth with Disgaea 5 as a close second.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your thoughts!

  • @insaneasock3156
    @insaneasock3156 10 месяцев назад +2

    Loved the train battle in Vandal Hearts when you killed an enemy and their blood would scatter in the wind

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Yep, that was pretty distinctive, wasn't it?

  • @planescaped
    @planescaped 10 месяцев назад +3

    I remember Bahamut Lagoon throwing kid me completely off when the main female lead/love interest friendzones the protagonist after he rescues her because she fell in love with one of the badguys. It's just not something you see a lot in JRPG's, lol.
    But DragonForce, Shining Force 2, Tactics Ogre March of the Black Queen, and FFT at #1... I can't argue with this list at all. Though I am sure some Fire Emblem fans are gonna feel slighted.
    That they still haven't released War of the Lions on anything other than PSP is a travesty.
    And 2 other great Trpg's I liked would be Disgaea 5 and Battle Brothers on PC.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      That has to be one of the biggest RPG twists in history for sure! Thanks for leaving your thoughts.6

  • @potatomatop9326
    @potatomatop9326 10 месяцев назад +2

    The one and only thing i don't like in Final Fantasy Tactics is Math Skill. That skill one-shots the entire map and it's not even funny

    • @dycedarg19
      @dycedarg19 10 месяцев назад

      That’s the only Job class that I never honed. My next play through I’m going to give it a shot. 👍🏻

    • @potatomatop9326
      @potatomatop9326 10 месяцев назад

      @@dycedarg19 don't! you'll destroy the game.
      edit: u know what, copy my build from 20 years ago... Don't learn a single magic offense skill like fire ice or lightning and just lear Holy... Once you do, equip a Chameleon Robe to save yourself from you. Wear all items that increases Matk and use the Matk Up Passive and select Save Fading Life. That auto one shots the entire map.

  • @drowningin
    @drowningin 10 месяцев назад +4

    I’ve been playing through Ogre Battle 64 while waiting for Unicorn Overlord. I love how relaxing Ogre Battle is. You issue your commands and watch it play out, only lifting controller when something changes. Nothing feels better than a perfectly laid out strategy at the start.
    FFT is actually a game I have the most problems with. The story is spectacular, the variety is amazing, but the system is so damn clunky that it makes me quit any replays in my tracks. If FFT was as smooth to play as Fire Emblem or Shining Force it would be perfect

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +1

      Right on, I agree about Ogre Battle. It takes tough decision but isn't as frantic in its gameplay.

    • @bobjoemac1
      @bobjoemac1 10 месяцев назад +1

      I adore tactics... but it has so many flaws. The first couple battles are brutally slow with no variety and then after that the game gives you some rando's who you then use to class change into whatever you want... but you have to spend hours grinding new jobs to keep up with old jobs. So you basically create a team of 5 OP characters for the first 25% of the game... then the game goes nah you should use these mandatory story characters and forget about your chapter 1 guys... feels like.the opposite of what the game wanted you to do in the first place... then perma death is TOO brutal. The franticness of having to revive them is great but if you don't revive them in time they turn into a crystal... that let's you learn ONE of their abilities that you spent hours obtaining... so you just reset the battle...which most of the time is a random battle on the map.

    • @LockeNarshe
      @LockeNarshe 10 месяцев назад

      @@bobjoemac1 I think the permadeath system is fantastic, personally. It's not as punishing as the insta-death of Tactics Ogre, but it isn't as soft as just facerolling through battles with no regard for the life of your party members. Otherwise you'd just make a sacrifice play every battle to make it easier. Like much of the story and the combat animations, the permadeath is there to add weight to the game and the decisions you make. There are some places you could smooth the edges out on though, like soft-locking your first playthrough at a certain multi-stage castle battle (if you know, you know) or the ability to lose a fight before your first turn on the roof battle when one of the Twins walks into the dear old matching ladies.

  • @w1sh4w1ngsthtwrk
    @w1sh4w1ngsthtwrk 10 месяцев назад +1

    Front Mission 1 was ported to the original DS in 2007, it is largely similar to the 1995 original.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Didn't realize this

  • @eminturksezer9423
    @eminturksezer9423 9 месяцев назад

    Cool selection. Dragon Force and FFT PSX are the ones I still got on my bucket list.

  • @natn41r
    @natn41r 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great list, a bit surprised at how high Triangle Strat was.
    A tactics game you may not have heard of, but should definitely check out: Banner of the Maid

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      I knew that would surprise some, but I just love it so much. And thanks for that recommendation.

    • @geeknat8981
      @geeknat8981 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yep. Banner of the Maid is surprisingly great!

  • @algernonsblackwoods5859
    @algernonsblackwoods5859 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great list. I personally have Tactics Ogre LUCT at the one spot over FFT. The only reason being, once you get a few NPCs in FFT (yes Orlandeau, I'm talking about you) the combat and all the hard work and leveling you did becomes trivial.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +2

      True!

    • @juniorgod321
      @juniorgod321 10 месяцев назад +1

      No, Orlandeau was the reward for all the combat and all the hard work and leveling you did:)

    • @praaskersja5077
      @praaskersja5077 10 месяцев назад

      you can use patch mod for reballance FFT

  • @djhabibi04
    @djhabibi04 10 месяцев назад +2

    12:03 But between the PSP version or the Switch, which would you choose? I hadn't started the PSP one and was very silly to rebuy it on Switch. Both are in my backlog...

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      I haven't played the PSP version in a long time, and I think they're similar but I think the remaster is better. The only thing I didn't like is the pixel filter they applied...

  • @malojewell2755
    @malojewell2755 10 месяцев назад +2

    Damn near perfect list. Fell Seal and Brigandine would make my list, but I can't argue with what you went with.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for your feedback!

  • @UnparalleledDev0
    @UnparalleledDev0 10 месяцев назад +1

    solid list.Front Mission looks cool might have to check it out.
    once FFT was notably absent I realized the number one spot. also brilliant editing: "little not to like about FFT" while showing Malak Rafa Roof fight. nice touch.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Glad you can't find fault with the #1!

  • @darwynn17
    @darwynn17 10 месяцев назад +2

    I’m surprised Triangle Strategy made it on the list tbh. I’ve seen a lot of praise for the art style, but an overwhelming amount of criticism towards the story. It’s the reason I still haven’t picked it up.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Such an incredible game, it still gets slept on a bit!

  • @Rorshacked
    @Rorshacked 10 месяцев назад +3

    It’s total nostalgia talking, but I loved Kartia Word of Fate. Revisited it last year and was happy with how well it held up.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +1

      I should probably cover that one eventually...

    • @Lamasis2
      @Lamasis2 10 месяцев назад +1

      Word of Fate, but that would be my pick too.

    • @Rorshacked
      @Rorshacked 10 месяцев назад

      @@Lamasis2oh you’re right, good catch!

    • @Rorshacked
      @Rorshacked 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Xygor yes please! I liked the paper rock scissors of the summons and the high ground-low ground playing a huge part (like with weapon selection/loadout choices)

  • @thedrunkmonkshow
    @thedrunkmonkshow 10 месяцев назад +1

    It makes sense for FF Tactics to be #1 as it's yet to be dethroned with it's engaging storyline and comprehensive job system which adds tons of replay value . For some reason I was imagining you picking Military Madness/Nectaris but I quickly forgot while the game is one of the best tactical games it lacks RPG elements so it wouldn't count in this list. Also glad to see Vandal Hearts get some love which is sorely forgotten by many a lot these days. 😎

  • @TheRobversion1
    @TheRobversion1 10 месяцев назад +2

    My personal top 5 TRPGS:
    1. Final Fantasy Tactics
    2. Triangle Strategy
    3. Tactics Ogre Reborn
    4. Front mission 3 (the whole FM series really)
    5. Gloomhaven

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for leaving your list here!

    • @TheRobversion1
      @TheRobversion1 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Xygor might be a game or 2 there that other trpg enthusiasts may want to try out. The next 5 i'd recommend:
      6. valkyria chronicles (the whole series really)
      7. fell seal: arbiter's mark
      8. fire emblem: 3 houses
      9. marvel's midnight suns
      10. diofield chronicles
      of the upcoming games, i expect unicorn overlord to start being a part of these kinds of lists.

  • @frankfernandez8637
    @frankfernandez8637 10 месяцев назад +1

    Its very hard for me to chose. I'm sure that my top 3 would be Shining Force II, Tactics Ogre and Final Fantasy Tactics (no order), but I loved some other that are not in the list like FFT Advanced and Vanguard Bandits. Probably not better than any other showed in the video but they gave me a lot of hours of fun and replayability, and that's what videogame are made for. Good video as always. God bless you man

  • @GIBunz
    @GIBunz 10 месяцев назад +2

    Final Fantasy Tactics Advance is a really fun game.
    I've heard War of the Lions isn't as good as the PSX version.

    • @dycedarg19
      @dycedarg19 10 месяцев назад

      I’ve never played FFTA, but I will say that I enjoy the PSX better than WOTL…only because have played it a lot before. Something about the updated dialogue/character names being too different than the OG. 😅

  • @shwickid222
    @shwickid222 7 месяцев назад +1

    Vandal Hearts will ALWAYS be my fav Tactical RPG. heres hoping for a remaster someday. one can dream i guess.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  7 месяцев назад

      Hopefully someday!

  • @elowolfe4075
    @elowolfe4075 10 месяцев назад

    One I don't see mention often, but I have a soft spot for, was Vanguard Bandits. Tactical RPG with mechs.

  • @Gothenburg1
    @Gothenburg1 8 месяцев назад

    Awesome video, I was not aware of dragonforce it looks exciting I will definitly try it on my rp3+ when I will finish the two classics tactics ogre psp and fire emblem awakening. I think recently, Battle Brothers deserve some praises because of its combat depths that reach the highest references previously mentioned while adding an incredible feeling on gameplay and a nice doze of rogue elements

  • @dreamweaver5803
    @dreamweaver5803 10 месяцев назад +1

    Really excellent video! Thanks very much.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Glad you liked it!

  • @paulmichelin5368
    @paulmichelin5368 10 месяцев назад +1

    I was pleasantly surprised to see Bahumut Lagoon in the list. I loved that game and wish it would get a HD 2D remake and proper English release

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      It was so good, hopefully it is remade!

  • @Tarrot
    @Tarrot 10 месяцев назад +1

    One of the most overlooked Tactical RPGs, at least from the west, is Legend of Cao Cao. It's similar to Fire Emblem in how it looks, but has a stat growth system that can encourage multiple playthroughs, some difficult fights, and has a ton of replayability due to different characters to recruit. More importantly, in China, it's one of the more modded games out there. Legend of Lu Bu is probably the most well known, but there's a ton of LOCC mods that for the most part aren't available to Westerners.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the suggestion!

  • @andrebaxter4023
    @andrebaxter4023 10 месяцев назад +2

    Dragon Force is an underrated gem. A shame that there’s no modern versions of the series.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly, maybe someday!

  • @nateb2715
    @nateb2715 10 месяцев назад

    16:03 This battle in Final Fantasy Tactics gave me nitemares. I think I started the game over the first time I made it to that point because I thought I did something wrong and would never beat it

    • @dycedarg19
      @dycedarg19 10 месяцев назад

      I had a friend who was stuck on this battle right before this (the one where Ramza was alone). I told him to give me his memory card, I beat that battle and the one you mentioned and handed the memory card back to him. 1st try I said. He looked at me shocked! I usually have Ramza as a summoner and a lancer (jump) with monk abilities (earth slash). Hardest battle for me was trying to steal everything from the Duke of Elmore and the assassins…PSX FFT mind you.

  • @soratheorangejuicemascot5809
    @soratheorangejuicemascot5809 10 месяцев назад +1

    My favorite Tactical RPG will always be Yggdra Union. I like how the game is designed around resource management and missing an item can potentially end your run.
    I mostly play Dept Heaven rpgs but I also played Devil Survivor and Project X Zone 2.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the suggestions!

  • @DonovanMcNabb5
    @DonovanMcNabb5 10 месяцев назад

    Finally someone mentions Triangle Strategy, this one got buried because it released around Elden Ring

  • @schaughtful
    @schaughtful 10 месяцев назад

    Right on! Especially happy to see Dragon Force and Vandel Hearts on the list

  • @edpinkus8688
    @edpinkus8688 10 месяцев назад +1

    I just discovered Fell Seal and it's possibly one of the top ones that I have played in a long time.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      I've heard of it, I need to look into it.

  • @PoopyBarfy
    @PoopyBarfy 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great vid!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Thank you, which game is your favorite?

  • @seanmcbride434
    @seanmcbride434 10 месяцев назад

    I cut my strategy rpg teeth on warsong (der langrisser) on the genesis and the found ogre battle and I still go back and play those. Was really into the front mission series as well. Great list!

  • @theopatino2379
    @theopatino2379 10 месяцев назад +1

    Shining Force 2 is still my #1 Tactical RPG. The Diofield Chronicle deserves some recognition.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Shining Force 2 is a classic!

  • @MultiFallguy
    @MultiFallguy 5 месяцев назад

    Great list.
    I'd like to add some:
    Jeanne D'Arc - PSP
    Banner Saga
    Rondo of Swords - DS
    Check these out, they were really fun and unique.

  • @kurniawannur6178
    @kurniawannur6178 10 месяцев назад +1

    my fav is obviously FFT, followed by SMT devil survivor, Valkyria chronicles 4, FE 3 houses, Tactics ogre and Front mission 3... planning on Vandal Hearts, Kartia, Vanguard Bandits, Growlanser 4, Langrisser remake, Triangle strategy and Disgaea 5

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for sharing your favorites!

  • @MikeStoneJapan
    @MikeStoneJapan 10 месяцев назад +1

    Tactics and Strategy games really raised me. But off the top of my head FFTA2, FM1, TO LUCT. Front Mission 1 I have prolly replayed the most

    • @JuanCruz-cb1lf
      @JuanCruz-cb1lf 10 месяцев назад

      The SNES Front Mission 1? Or the Switch version? I just bought it on Amazon. I hope its good.

    • @MikeStoneJapan
      @MikeStoneJapan 10 месяцев назад

      @@JuanCruz-cb1lf I came up w/ the snes version. Never played the switch port/remaster whatever it is. Sure it's good though

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your thoughts!

  • @Mintcar923
    @Mintcar923 10 месяцев назад +2

    I started with Fire Emblem on GBA.. I’d probably put both FE & Valkyria Chronicles at the top.. But I’m also a huge fan of Jeanne Dark & Triangle Strategy.. What’s left? FFT & Tactics Ogre are cool & all tho I’m not very good at them so I don’t play as much..
    Then there’s that other genre that I’m not even sure counts as SRPG the XCom/Mario Rabbids whatever it’s called consisting of finding the best angles for shooting & such.. Another really great one albeit original is 13 Sentinels.. It may not be everyone’s cup of tea because it’s part Visual Novel

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for your thoughts!

  • @shallendor
    @shallendor 10 месяцев назад +2

    All the Tactics Ogre family of games were great! Final Fantasy Tactics is my #1 choice, i have played it so many times while challenging myself with limits on character i use!
    I do like games like both Ogre Battle game and Dominions 4-6, where you do the planning and rely on the setup for success or failure!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for your thoughts!

  • @Cagliostro81
    @Cagliostro81 10 месяцев назад

    Uh, not to be that guy, but Front Mission was first released officially in the US for the DS in October of 2007. That said it’s always nice to see Front Mission getting its flowers!

  • @LordVallens
    @LordVallens 10 месяцев назад

    Have you tried Shining Force 3, Scenarios 1, 2, and 3? The fan translations of Scenarios 2 and 3 are so amazing. Holy crap, Shining Force 3 is a must play if you enjoy tactical RPGs.

  • @Dzzy123
    @Dzzy123 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have Triangle Strategy but stopped around chapter 3. I need to get back to it.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      It’s worth it!

  • @senditall152
    @senditall152 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for this list.

  • @danielhimura2441
    @danielhimura2441 10 месяцев назад +1

    Loved this!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Glad you did!

  • @Squall2785
    @Squall2785 10 месяцев назад +2

    Front mission was released on the DS as well

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks, never realized that.

    • @2handss
      @2handss 10 месяцев назад

      Waiting for the remake to hit a huge discount on Steam to replay FM1

  • @mechajintsu
    @mechajintsu 10 месяцев назад +1

    For notable tactical RPG's which isn't mentioned enough -> Brigandine. It's a really fun game.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +1

      I really need to review it soon.

  • @jmarx3943
    @jmarx3943 10 месяцев назад

    I was always very fond of the shining force series. In my opinion, 2 is the best one I've played, but my personal favorite is shining force cd. I loved how after completing 2 stories (caled books in game) with different casts of characters (with some crossover), you can select from an entire list of both stories characters to play through a more difficult shorter book.

  • @Mkain80
    @Mkain80 10 месяцев назад +1

    Sometimes i wish i could go back in time and play all this stuff as a kid on release date cause i missed so much.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Hopefully you still can!

    • @Mkain80
      @Mkain80 10 месяцев назад

      @@Xygor I do. Emulators can make miracles. It's more of free time issue. Kids, work, etc.

  • @PetiteKero
    @PetiteKero 10 месяцев назад +1

    I was sure Triangle Strategy would appear on this list, I was just curious which place it gets. :D It was my personal GOTY 2022. I loved everything about it.
    You praised its class system but the thing is it doesn't have a class system in the sense of "I take 3 warriors, 2 archers, 2 healers etc."
    Every character was its OWN INDIVIDUAL class. I've never seen something like that before. That combined with story, graphics, OST makes it one of the best TRPGs of all time. (:

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +1

      Good points about Triangle Strategy. Such a completely awesome game!

  • @Outshinedsg
    @Outshinedsg 3 месяца назад

    Enjoyable video!
    I did want to add one correction: You said that Front Mission never received an official English translation before the Front Mission remakes that recently came out. However, there was an official release for the Nintendo DS much earlier (2006). It's quite good and a great way to play the game if you have the hardware. Much easier to access the Steam version nowadays of course.
    Bahamut Lagoons inclusion was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
    Picking one game to represent Fire Emblem, wow is that a difficult choice. How do you pick just one to represent an amazing strategy franchise of over a dozen games spanning multiple consoles and eras of gaming. The series has evolved so much over the years and Three Houses has a completely different feel from, say, Mystery of the Emblem. I don't hate your choice of Genealogy, but personally I would give the nod to either Path of Radiance or FE7/Blazing Sword as they benefitted from more modern UI and (in my opinion) have more digestible pacing and story.
    Your inclusion of DragonForce on this list was interesting. It's easily one of the best games on the Saturn but before your video I would not have thought about it as a strategy RPG because the battles are not turn-based. I actually view it as a prototype real time strategy game on consoles - one of the early innovators in the genre. It has similarities to RTS games such as base control and real time troop movement, but also many RPG elements too. Truly a unique game that is difficult to categorize.
    I think the closest modern analog to DragonForce would be something like the Total War series, so its interesting to think about.
    Shining Force 2 and Tactics Ogre are two of the best games of all time, easy includes.
    I honestly feel that Final Fantasy Tactics is a bit overrated since it derives so much of it's DNA from Tactics Ogre. I think people rate it more highly than perhaps it should be because FFT was far more accessible than Tactics Ogre back in the day, and therefore more people played it and it has more benefit from nostalgia goggles.
    I did feel there were two significant omissions from this list. The first is XCOM. It's one of the most influential strategy games of classic PC gaming and the modern tactics era between XCOM Enemy Unknown / XCOM 2. One of the XCOM games should absolutely belong on a top 10 all time strategy list, but of course the game and placement on the ranking would be highly subjective.
    The second is Heroes of Might and Magic. You could debate which one, but HOMM 2 or 3 would place on many classic PC gamers best games of all time lists. Popular consensus is that 3 is the best but I think there are arguments for 2.
    Maybe in the future, Unicorn Overlord might make its way onto some people's top 10 lists, too.
    Realistically though, great list! Impossible to pick just 10.

  • @MackenziePerrault
    @MackenziePerrault Месяц назад

    Fire emblem and ogre battle are both number 6?
    😅
    7:18
    8:50
    Awesome list, I'm going back and playing all the JRPGS ive missed out on and i figure i should try getting into these games while im at it.

  • @michaeljoseph9390
    @michaeljoseph9390 10 месяцев назад +2

    I loved all the shining force games. You can’t go wrong with any of them and I wasn’t surprised you chose shining force 2 but, I’d have gone with shining force 3 or shining force CD.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +1

      They are definite classics!

  • @relentlessnights4211
    @relentlessnights4211 8 месяцев назад

    Amazing list! I played a lot of them and definitely agree they are high quality good times. Actually replaying some fft wotl again. Triangle Strategy was so good, I played it back to back after getting my first clear. Damn good list, don’t thing I’ve ever seen someone highlight dragon force, awesome! Did you play shining force 3 ( sega Saturn) its graphics design doesn’t last like the 2D but as a fellow SF player, I hope so! There’s also 2 additional scenarios and entire premium disk that has 10 bonus battles similar to SF post game Zeon fight

  • @shinra2755
    @shinra2755 4 месяца назад +1

    Superb list - really good picks.
    For me, the most clear omission is Disgaea! The first game in the series remains the best. Near infinite playability and excellent characters!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  4 месяца назад

      Thanks, I'm biased but I thought so too!

  • @dycedarg19
    @dycedarg19 10 месяцев назад +1

    I am glad FFT was at the top. The story, the gameplay (incl. job points), the characters (including FF7’s), and especially the music make it top notch. Nothing like reducing an enemy’s brave points until they turn into a chicken, cast sleep, surround them, and steal Gil until you get enough JP’s for the next skill or job class. Oh, and I’m glad Vandal Hearts is on the list!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your thoughts!

  • @Graus4201
    @Graus4201 10 месяцев назад +1

    Spectral force 3 was a later gem that i found. i really liked the addition of combo attacks.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for the suggestion!

  • @JCtheComicGeek
    @JCtheComicGeek 10 месяцев назад +1

    Actually Front Mission DS is a remake of the Super Nintendo game I believe.

  • @lenk8374
    @lenk8374 2 месяца назад

    One that would be very high on my list is three houses. And I played nearly ever fire emblem that's been released in the US. Three houses gripped me like no other

  • @brandonhiggs88
    @brandonhiggs88 10 месяцев назад +1

    Very good list, one i dont think got enough love was the final fantasy tactics game for the gameboy advance. Yes it was alittle more childish but i liked the story of that one alot and neat idea with its all like a dream world of a sick child, id like to see both remade

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks, and yeah, that game was fun! Some others mentioned it in the comments as well.

  • @rafaelkuhn5154
    @rafaelkuhn5154 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great choices! But if you've enjoyed "Front Mission" on Super Famicom, by all means check out "FM II" for the PS1. It improves upon the original in every way, with more customisation, skills and secrets, a very nuanced story and gorgeous graphics.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      I will be reviewing it eventually! Thanks!

  • @VRnamek
    @VRnamek Месяц назад

    absolute top choices there. My favorite is still FFTactics, an absolute masterpiece, complete with great story, amazing character art and probably one of the best OSTs ever, so epic.
    Shining Force was awesome too, a true pioneer in the genre and still looks and plays great. One of Genesis/Megadrive crowing achievements. Character portraits in dialogues really felt brand-new and battle scenes look epic.
    PlayStation basically gave birth to 3D dioramas with 2D sprites still in vogue today with Triangle Strategy... Lovely

  • @bianodias2000
    @bianodias2000 10 месяцев назад

    I could add 2 or 3 titles but I prefer praising the list instead. Excellent choice of gems.

  • @derekczerkaski5540
    @derekczerkaski5540 10 месяцев назад

    Definitely recommend revisiting “Brigandine” on the PS1 sometime!

  • @LongLiveTheKingMusic
    @LongLiveTheKingMusic 10 месяцев назад

    Great list, bro!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @hemangchauhan2864
    @hemangchauhan2864 10 месяцев назад +1

    Good list.
    I need to try Triangle Strategy.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks! If you like the other games on this list, I think you'll really like that one.