New item builds after the huge buffs to Aghs and Shadow Wave. My mid build is: Bottle, Wand, Brown Boots, Midas, Aghs, Blink, BKB, Arcane Blink. Topson mid build is: Bottle, Wand, Treads, Wind Lace Aghs, BKB, Blink. Can't wait to see core Dazzle at TI :D
@@LimeFoot I hadn't planned on it no. Any reason you feel it could be strong now? I suppose all the new camps could make for creative stacking. Or what did you have in mind? ^^
To be honest I remember your old video on it and it was incredible to see, I was wondering if it could still be viable, one good thing I suppose is he gets a couple of charges of ion shell so that could help you stack 2 camps at once.
@@LimeFoot Back when I did it camps spawned 30 seconds sooner at 00.30, neutrals gave more xp and lvl 1 Ion Shell did a lot more damage compared to now. So without having tried it I feel confident that straight up jungling with DS would be hard now. However, there might be a way where you can play to stack a bunch of camps at the same time (like I just did with beastmaster). If this could be done Dark Seer would get bunch of XP when a core it taking the stacks. If it's viable, this would be my best guess how to do it :)
hey, i was just wondering is skipping mek/greaves ok? the ult doesnt remove the heal cd and its a very expensive item too if ur a support. thanks for the vid!
Yea it's super annoying that Mek/greaves gets cdr while team heal cd does not, which means you sometimes press greaves without healing anyone. Greaves is still really good on Dazzle though I buy this over BoT in a lot of games too. It's either that or BoT. The benefit of BoT is that you can abuse the midas CD a lot more by traveling to base a lot and you play sort of like a Tinker. The entire map is open for you to farm and you are ready to join fights almost immidiately. Greaves are great if you have a pushing / deathball lineup where you group up and push towers pretty early on. Or maybe you need the heal to save allies. (against Witch D heat is nice to counter Maledict, against Axe heal is nice to counter Culling Blade as if you heal while he is in ulti animation, you can make him waste his ulti hense making grave effective against Axe while his ulti is on CD). And in some games you just desperately need the dispel from Greaves against Silences and stuff. And finally if I'm having a bad I go greaves or Midas and then greaves as Midas + BoT can be a bit too greedy if you had a bad start, especially if the enemy team is looking to push early.
To be fair some of these clips are me playing offlane Dazzle. But if you are having a good start on 4 or 5 Dazzle I might still start with Midas, BoT like I did in these clips. You have a lot of down time on support Dazzle so you can stay in base a lot to refresh Midas CD. But only go Midas (and maybe even BoT) on support Dazzle if you're having a good start and even then it is questionable you can get away that much greed in high skill games ^^ Lots of fun though!
New item builds after the huge buffs to Aghs and Shadow Wave.
My mid build is:
Bottle, Wand, Brown Boots, Midas, Aghs, Blink, BKB, Arcane Blink.
Topson mid build is:
Bottle, Wand, Treads, Wind Lace Aghs, BKB, Blink.
Can't wait to see core Dazzle at TI :D
This is a great video, thanks for sharing what you learned, I may play this hero more now!
Sounds great. The world needs more Dazzle enjoyers
@@BonelessDota With all these new Jungle camps, have you thought about revisiting your dark seer jungle strategy?
@@LimeFoot I hadn't planned on it no. Any reason you feel it could be strong now? I suppose all the new camps could make for creative stacking. Or what did you have in mind? ^^
To be honest I remember your old video on it and it was incredible to see, I was wondering if it could still be viable, one good thing I suppose is he gets a couple of charges of ion shell so that could help you stack 2 camps at once.
@@LimeFoot Back when I did it camps spawned 30 seconds sooner at 00.30, neutrals gave more xp and lvl 1 Ion Shell did a lot more damage compared to now. So without having tried it I feel confident that straight up jungling with DS would be hard now. However, there might be a way where you can play to stack a bunch of camps at the same time (like I just did with beastmaster). If this could be done Dark Seer would get bunch of XP when a core it taking the stacks. If it's viable, this would be my best guess how to do it :)
Glimmer Cape plus bad juju doesnt work anymore :(
Yea it's dead. Sadly. Called it though, they just love reworking Dazzle ^^ hopefully they will buff him again soon. Boring bad hero atm.
hey, i was just wondering is skipping mek/greaves ok? the ult doesnt remove the heal cd and its a very expensive item too if ur a support. thanks for the vid!
Yea it's super annoying that Mek/greaves gets cdr while team heal cd does not, which means you sometimes press greaves without healing anyone.
Greaves is still really good on Dazzle though I buy this over BoT in a lot of games too. It's either that or BoT.
The benefit of BoT is that you can abuse the midas CD a lot more by traveling to base a lot and you play sort of like a Tinker. The entire map is open for you to farm and you are ready to join fights almost immidiately.
Greaves are great if you have a pushing / deathball lineup where you group up and push towers pretty early on. Or maybe you need the heal to save allies. (against Witch D heat is nice to counter Maledict, against Axe heal is nice to counter Culling Blade as if you heal while he is in ulti animation, you can make him waste his ulti hense making grave effective against Axe while his ulti is on CD). And in some games you just desperately need the dispel from Greaves against Silences and stuff. And finally if I'm having a bad I go greaves or Midas and then greaves as Midas + BoT can be a bit too greedy if you had a bad start, especially if the enemy team is looking to push early.
Here is what I learned playing Dazzle in 7.33 ^^ Link to part 1:
ruclips.net/video/wZA4gAuQsnk/видео.html
My main confusion is: how the heck did you get those items as a support
To be fair some of these clips are me playing offlane Dazzle. But if you are having a good start on 4 or 5 Dazzle I might still start with Midas, BoT like I did in these clips. You have a lot of down time on support Dazzle so you can stay in base a lot to refresh Midas CD. But only go Midas (and maybe even BoT) on support Dazzle if you're having a good start and even then it is questionable you can get away that much greed in high skill games ^^ Lots of fun though!