@LUCKY JOE yup! When I get a bunch of stuff.ill use the ken onion worksharp to build the edge and use this to finish off. Then also 4 or 5000 grit KME stones too
@@airleclair yes I have the ken onion. The angle guide system is VERY accurate and has a more powerful motor so I can use it longer if needed. We'll worth the money Especially with all the attatchemtns
I use the smaller handheld version with Diamond on one side and ceramic roller on the other. Love it. Also tried bottom of coffee cup and top of a car window, but the sharpener I use works great with the built in angle guides on each end. No complaints. Their belt sharpener machines work great too.
My brother always sharpens into the edge, like you do. Razor sharp. I can’t pull it off! I can make a blade scary sharp, but I have to pull my strokes away from the edge to raise a good burr. 🤷 I have hundreds of dollars worth of stones and steels, but for those of you who lament the cost, a cinder block works just as well. EDIT: I do think that the built in angle check is a smart idea for beginners! 👍🏻
Yes, exactly, the stone moves some to follow the curve of the blade to make sharpening more consistent with less user adjustment. We call it Pivot Response.
I can't seem to get a technique down. Been trying for a couple years. I'm going to go to menards and try electric. Found a 90$ table model so we'll see I'm going to give it a whirl
They make really good guided systems. Worksharp Precision is like $50, and even has an upgrade kit, although it’s not that much of a necessity if you ask me, it just comes with an 800 grit stone and leather strop but 320/600/Ceramic is literally all you’ll ever need until you get to mirror polished edges and such. But keep your wrist locked, best piece of advice I can give you for free handing and take your time. It doesn’t have to be a 90 second job. Going to electric/belt style sharpening is the worse thing you can do. It’s the harshest on your blade and you have to be careful not to let your blade over heat.
Noooo! It is not that hard. I probably know your problem. You focus too much on correct angle etc. Just forget about those. Eyeball the angle,and try sharpening a knife like you would cut a slice of the stone every stroke. You can't miss! Try it.
As a machinist for many years that you could not see the tool that cuts the way metal, because it was a vertical boring CNC machine. Go by feel and sound. Make sure that as you stroke the knife across the surface you get the consistent sound without any skipping knowing that there are dull or nicks in the blade. And don’t let your hands move twist your hips and keep your elbows wrist and shoulders locked as much as possible and place your fingers in the same spot every time and use your thumbs as guides against a stone. Or get yourself angle guide. An angle guide is only good for starting out to make sure you have the right angle what you can cut from anything as long as you have a protractor, to give you that guide, once it leaves the guy though just keep your elbows hands fingers everything along and twist your hips and upper body moving as little as possible as you continue the stroke and listen for the sound And feel. A good way to practice is take a old knife, and old stone, and close your eyes and practice feeling not watching. And then incorporate watching with a little bit of water to see how the water beads over the blade as you stroke down the stone, and try to keep a consistent wave of water flowing down the edge of the knife as you run it down the stone. He doesn’t point out in this video that making sure the stone is flat and square is also very important. If your stone is round or one side is higher than the other than the angle guide or your angle will not remain consistent through the stroke.We sharpen everything from knives, drillbits, chisels at work and no matter what you sharpen or how you cut metal it all comes down to sound and feel because half the time you can’t see what you’re cutting.
I'm really pleased with this! It works like a charm ruclips.net/user/postUgkxDcr-y2Pf6xdnrFHrSP7dl9kpKaCozcSQ Takes less time than my old electric sharpener because it can take more off the knife faster, and then it smooths out nicely with the finer grit polisher. I don't know how long it will last before the grit wears away, but I wouldn't mind having to replace it every once in a while.
As a machinist for many years that you could not see the tool that cuts the way metal, because it was a vertical boring CNC machine. Go by feel and sound. Make sure that as you stroke the knife across the surface you get the consistent sound without any skipping knowing that there are dull or nicks in the blade. And don’t let your hands move twist your hips and keep your elbows wrist and shoulders locked as much as possible and place your fingers in the same spot every time and use your thumbs as guides against a stone. Or get yourself angle guide. An angle guide is only good for starting out to make sure you have the right angle what you can cut from anything as long as you have a protractor, to give you that guide, once it leaves the guy though just keep your elbows hands fingers everything along and twist your hips and upper body moving as little as possible as you continue the stroke and listen for the sound And feel. A good way to practice is take a old knife, and old stone, and close your eyes and practice feeling not watching. And then incorporate watching with a little bit of water to see how the water beads over the blade as you stroke down the stone, and try to keep a consistent wave of water flowing down the edge of the knife as you run it down the stone. He doesn’t point out in this video that making sure the stone is flat and square is also very important. If your stone is round or one side is higher than the other than the angle guide or your angle will not remain consistent through the stroke.We sharpen everything from knives, drillbits, chisels at work and no matter what you sharpen or how you cut metal it all comes down to sound and feel because half the time you can’t see what you’re cutting.
Father was a machinist, honestly wish he let me into the shop, I would not be trolling RUclips learning how to sharpen correctly and looking for best tools. Thanks for the look into that world
Both will get you great results it just comes down the preference. The Benchstone will take less time both from a setup standpoint and the diamond stones will sharpen faster than a whetstone. If you don't mind taking the time/clean up involved with whetsone sharpening, it can create some amazing edges.
I run my own sharpening buisniness. I use this everyday for final touches up with kitchen knives and scandi grind knives :)
Love you products !!!
@LUCKY JOE yup! When I get a bunch of stuff.ill use the ken onion worksharp to build the edge and use this to finish off.
Then also 4 or 5000 grit KME stones too
@LUCKY JOE Do you guys also use the ken onion edition? Why or why not?
@@airleclair yes I have the ken onion.
The angle guide system is VERY accurate and has a more powerful motor so I can use it longer if needed. We'll worth the money
Especially with all the attatchemtns
I just got this sharpener, works quick. I also have the angle adjust. Both work great 👍.
I use the smaller handheld version with Diamond on one side and ceramic roller on the other. Love it.
Also tried bottom of coffee cup and top of a car window, but the sharpener I use works great with the built in angle guides on each end.
No complaints.
Their belt sharpener machines work great too.
I love these videos please keep them coming
Just ordered one
My brother always sharpens into the edge, like you do. Razor sharp.
I can’t pull it off! I can make a blade scary sharp, but I have to pull my strokes away from the edge to raise a good burr. 🤷
I have hundreds of dollars worth of stones and steels, but for those of you who lament the cost, a cinder block works just as well.
EDIT: I do think that the built in angle check is a smart idea for beginners! 👍🏻
Does this work for Japanese sushi knife as well ??
All I use is handmade knives but I yet have used a stone to sharpen I will soon though and thank you for showing me the videos
Looks as if there’s much angular play with the stone during the strokes. Is this to account for blade contour and ensuring the tip is also sharpened?
Yes, exactly, the stone moves some to follow the curve of the blade to make sharpening more consistent with less user adjustment. We call it Pivot Response.
I noticed that too, thanks for clarifying 1:30
Follow up with a strop and buffing compound.
What site can you purchase these tools . I live in Australia, thanks,Cheers
Is there a work sharp that is good for sharpening a whittling knife?
More than likely! Is there a specific whittling knife you have in mind?
None just whittling knives in general
What about the 17 deg angle
I want that sharpener machine
So in about 20 swipes you go from completely dull to sharp? I wish this had more information.
I can't seem to get a technique down. Been trying for a couple years. I'm going to go to menards and try electric. Found a 90$ table model so we'll see I'm going to give it a whirl
They make really good guided systems. Worksharp Precision is like $50, and even has an upgrade kit, although it’s not that much of a necessity if you ask me, it just comes with an 800 grit stone and leather strop but 320/600/Ceramic is literally all you’ll ever need until you get to mirror polished edges and such.
But keep your wrist locked, best piece of advice I can give you for free handing and take your time. It doesn’t have to be a 90 second job.
Going to electric/belt style sharpening is the worse thing you can do. It’s the harshest on your blade and you have to be careful not to let your blade over heat.
Noooo! It is not that hard. I probably know your problem. You focus too much on correct angle etc. Just forget about those. Eyeball the angle,and try sharpening a knife like you would cut a slice of the stone every stroke. You can't miss! Try it.
As a machinist for many years that you could not see the tool that cuts the way metal, because it was a vertical boring CNC machine. Go by feel and sound. Make sure that as you stroke the knife across the surface you get the consistent sound without any skipping knowing that there are dull or nicks in the blade. And don’t let your hands move twist your hips and keep your elbows wrist and shoulders locked as much as possible and place your fingers in the same spot every time and use your thumbs as guides against a stone. Or get yourself angle guide. An angle guide is only good for starting out to make sure you have the right angle what you can cut from anything as long as you have a protractor, to give you that guide, once it leaves the guy though just keep your elbows hands fingers everything along and twist your hips and upper body moving as little as possible as you continue the stroke and listen for the sound And feel. A good way to practice is take a old knife, and old stone, and close your eyes and practice feeling not watching. And then incorporate watching with a little bit of water to see how the water beads over the blade as you stroke down the stone, and try to keep a consistent wave of water flowing down the edge of the knife as you run it down the stone. He doesn’t point out in this video that making sure the stone is flat and square is also very important. If your stone is round or one side is higher than the other than the angle guide or your angle will not remain consistent through the stroke.We sharpen everything from knives, drillbits, chisels at work and no matter what you sharpen or how you cut metal it all comes down to sound and feel because half the time you can’t see what you’re cutting.
I'm really pleased with this! It works like a charm ruclips.net/user/postUgkxDcr-y2Pf6xdnrFHrSP7dl9kpKaCozcSQ Takes less time than my old electric sharpener because it can take more off the knife faster, and then it smooths out nicely with the finer grit polisher. I don't know how long it will last before the grit wears away, but I wouldn't mind having to replace it every once in a while.
As a machinist for many years that you could not see the tool that cuts the way metal, because it was a vertical boring CNC machine. Go by feel and sound. Make sure that as you stroke the knife across the surface you get the consistent sound without any skipping knowing that there are dull or nicks in the blade. And don’t let your hands move twist your hips and keep your elbows wrist and shoulders locked as much as possible and place your fingers in the same spot every time and use your thumbs as guides against a stone. Or get yourself angle guide. An angle guide is only good for starting out to make sure you have the right angle what you can cut from anything as long as you have a protractor, to give you that guide, once it leaves the guy though just keep your elbows hands fingers everything along and twist your hips and upper body moving as little as possible as you continue the stroke and listen for the sound And feel. A good way to practice is take a old knife, and old stone, and close your eyes and practice feeling not watching. And then incorporate watching with a little bit of water to see how the water beads over the blade as you stroke down the stone, and try to keep a consistent wave of water flowing down the edge of the knife as you run it down the stone. He doesn’t point out in this video that making sure the stone is flat and square is also very important. If your stone is round or one side is higher than the other than the angle guide or your angle will not remain consistent through the stroke.We sharpen everything from knives, drillbits, chisels at work and no matter what you sharpen or how you cut metal it all comes down to sound and feel because half the time you can’t see what you’re cutting.
Father was a machinist, honestly wish he let me into the shop, I would not be trolling RUclips learning how to sharpen correctly and looking for best tools. Thanks for the look into that world
You should write a book about this subject! Oh wait, you already did!😂
It looks pretty decent but still woobles a bit.
My speakers are broken.
For someone with a lot of knifes (steak knives), this would take forever.
That's why we have so many options. If you want to get it done quickly, check out the KTS Mk.2 or stay kitchen specific try the Kitchen Electric.
The idea is good but the execution sucks.
What’s better for a kitchen knife. This one, or the whetstone version?
Both will get you great results it just comes down the preference. The Benchstone will take less time both from a setup standpoint and the diamond stones will sharpen faster than a whetstone. If you don't mind taking the time/clean up involved with whetsone sharpening, it can create some amazing edges.
@@WorkSharpOutdoor thank you. I went with the diamond plates.