Warm regards from Denmark, Dynaudio Evoke 20 Bookshelf Speaker Review!
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- Опубликовано: 26 янв 2024
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Dynaudio Evoke 20: dynaudio.com/home-audio/evoke...
Test Equipment:
Preamp & Power Amplifiers:
Kinki Studio EX-P7: www.kinki-studio.com/ex-p7
Kinki Studio EX-B7 mono blocks: www.kinki-studio.com/ex-b7
Hegel H190: www.hegel.com/en/products/int...
CHoco Sound EMEI: www.kinki-studio.com/product-...
Emotiva TA2: emotiva.com/products/basx-ta2...
Prima Luna Evo 100: upscaleaudio.com/products/pri...
Source: Bluesound Node 2i or Cambridge MXN10 Streamer
www.cambridgeaudio.com/usa/en...
(all music is hi-res streamed from Tidal)
DAC: Denafrips Ares II or Ares 12th-1
www.vinshineaudio.com/product...
Speaker & Power Cables: Maze Audio Ref4
www.mazeaudio.com/speaker-cabl...
(rest in peace Kent)
Interconnect Cables:
Analysis Plus Oval One RCA
Oyaide Tunami Terzo XX V2 XLR
analysis.plus/product/oval-on...
Your results may vary based on your ears, room, and associated equipment. 
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Iw heard them on several occations. Easy listening lovely speakers,, 🥰.
Thanks Mr Masterreviewer,, ❣🥰❣
Thanks bud, great review. After owning several speakers I discovered the Emit 20's that I love, would guess they're very similar to these but a little livelier and are not made in Denmark but terrific value compared, they do need a decent amount of power though, at least 75 watts into 8 home of good quality current.
Keep up the good work.
The 1TDX is more open sounding overall and the bass is much stronger and tighter. In some ways it is a lateral move yes but if you appreciate that tighter/stronger bass, more sparkle up top, and a more expansive midrange then it would be totally worth it.
These were my first speakers in the blonde finish and loved them very much. When I was upgrading, I got to compare these next to the special 40s, contour and the heritage specials. The special 40s definitely was a little more nimble and offered slightly more refinement. If I were to do it all over again, I probably would have bought the special 40s initially.
What you have now?
Mine are red. Never get tired of looking at that beautiful finish.
@@cmessi I almost upgraded to the Dynaudio HS, but stayed with a Paradigm Persona B after comparing the two. However, I didn't have that too long and moved to Rosso Fiorentino Pienza s2. I am in love with that thing and have no idea what I would upgrade to next. Dynaudio Confidence? Get on the Borreson hype train? My room is, I believe, slightly smaller than Nemo's and I sit on the long wall, so trying to stick with standmounts + my Rythmik F12.
I got the evoke 10 and theyre awesome for my small room.
Very nice.. one of these in white came up used for sale for 1.6k and caught my 👀
As always a great review. IMO, it just boils down to personal likes/ preferences as to what Speaker is Best. "Some people like that front row in your face listening experience, others towards the back row, which offers a different listening experience"
100% agree, many products are "the best" in the eyes of different customers with different taste. I hope more people will come to understand that this hobby is more like food, personal taste will always be the biggest factor.
Thanks for another great review. I am a Dynaudio Fan so up my alley. I would love if you could get some hands on some Heritage Specials. Love to hear your thoughts
I think it's a limited edition speaker and perhaps on its way out but if not I will ask dynaudio about it :)
Yes it is limited to 2500 and they have stopped making them but they are out there on the used market.
@@CapnJack100 if they stopped making it already I probably won't review it as there would be no way to obtain a review sample and I'd have to buy a used pair myself. They seem to be selling for around $5k+ in my region so that's a little too much just to make a video.
Great review!
Owner of the Emit 30 :)
You covered the waterfront. I owned these for a year but moved them on in favor of the Special 40s because too much warm is not a good thing if you have that kind of electronics. If you are someone who is always fatigued because your electronics are lively, this is your speaker. right no I am breaking in a pair of Totem Signature One speakers. So far so good in the $3500 class range.Another week will tell the tale.
🙏. A voice of reason rarely heard. That is what hifi is about
well said!
I have the Evoke 10s -- Awesomeness!!
Sure the Special 40 is nice, for the extra cash. I got lucky and found a pair that was opened and set up and had not even broke in and then went to a closet while the house was reno'ed. He needed cash. Got my blondes for one third of retail in Canada! I can't complain.
Cheers Nemo!
Great review. I like the Dynaudio brand, Evoke seems like a decent value. I ended up with a pair of ATC SCM19's. Would love to hear your opinion on those one day I think you'll like them.
sadly ATC isn't very popular in the USA so it's hard to get a review sample.
@@NemoPropagandaYeah I hear you. ATC distributer is called Lone Mountain they may be able to help. They are based in Vegas.
@@NemoPropaganda they Design and make ATC speakers near where i live in the UK, I’ve never actually listened to ATC speakers before but have heard many great things about them, they design and make all their own drivers and tweeters I think you would like them but they are very expensive probably due to being manufactured in the UK?
@@NemoPropagandaATC has more neutral en detailed sound compared to Evoke.
I've owened the 1TDX and now own the Evoke 20 and from my experience I can say the 1 TDX has a clearer mid range and slightly more refined bass but the Evoke throws a way larger sound stage comparable to floor standing speakers. Also the SPL capability of the Evoke 20 is also significantly better being able to handle low bass passages with far less distortion. I like to listen to my music loud and the evokes can handle 90+ DB non stop with no problem.
I mostly agree, though I do not test max SPL so I'm not sure about the output of either one.
Do you find the Evoke 20 to sound smoother and warmer than the 1TDX?
Great speakers from an excelent scandinavian brand! I think the Evoke line sound more like british Sound Signature than general neutral sound from Dynaudio's speakers.Cheers from Argentina
You are right. A bit like Harbeth, but more lively.
That sounds like a good description for the change in signature with this line
Thank you man very nice review as always!!!I have a recommendation for you to review (if its possible of course) an amazing pair of speakers the "Neat Petite Classic",i think you will love them!!!!
I've seen that brand before, they have that cute little Iota speaker, unfortunately I don't think they have a USA distributor so it may be difficult to get a review sample as the cost of shipping both ways will be very high for the company. My reviews are free but the shipping would cost them around $300 I think :(
@@NemoPropaganda Of course is a lot of money ship them to and from US.I just ckeck their site they have a distributor "Fidelis Distribution, LLC"(Nashua, New Hampshire). Thanks anyway for all the great reviews that you make,have a great day!!!
I have the Evoke 30 mated to a Rega Aethos. I run a T5x sub to boost the bottom end if needed. I also swap with KEF R3 - both have their strengths & style. Both are great.
that's a great dual setup you have! I do the same thing, having 1 main warm speaker, and 1 main more open sounding speaker. Such a luxury, we're both blessed!
When it comes to Dynaudio, what you need to know is this, the speakers are not trying to wow you right away which is why it will almost never win a back-to-back group test for anyone who has never heard Dynaudio before. By that I mean it isn't like say for example B&W which leans bright and have a very lively top end that will give you a so-called more exciting sound right off the bat if you will when you first listen to it. Dynaudio on the other hand is different, you need to spend time with it and once they are well run in which may take a good few months, they will grow on you. This is especially true if you are like me who can spend hours to savour extended listening sessions when you dim the lights with a drink if you will. The best thing about Dynaudio is you will never have listening fatigue. The sound just get better and better. Personally, I will not pair them with a warm amp, for me warm on warm may be a tad too much. I would pick something more punchy and run it through a more revealing and transparent external DAC to create a better balance. I didn't get the Evoke 20, unless you are adamant about having a pair of standmounts, for me I went with the Evoke 50 which to me is the gem of the series. The Evoke 50 punches above its weight and really does give you that sense of scale. Skip the Evoke 30 too even if you want floorstanders unless your room is really that small. Just go for an audition, it won't disappoint you.
What amp you have?
@@cmessi Roksan Blak. But, I bought the amp before I had the speakers. If I were to do it again, I would probably get something more powerful for starters. The Evoke 50 is a 4 ohm load dropping down to 3 ohm at 87 db.
@@RascallucciRoksan Black is not warm? Cuz i have Evoke 20 with Roksan K3 and it's not a good match, because warm-warm! I want to sell my Roksan K3 and looking for an another amp, maybe Hagel, but im not a Hagel fan....
@@adambalogh632 I am not a Hegel fan neither, personally I find Hegel warmer than Roksan. It also depends on what DAC you use. If you use a DAC that leans bright, everything could balance out nicely. But, if you want to do it by amp only, then may be you could try something drier like Rotel such as the RA-1592 MK II.
@@adambalogh632 Personally, I have never used the Blak internal DAC, so I have no idea what it sounds like. For me is either the DAC in my SACD player when I have to use its DAC for SACD decoding only or an external SMSL DO400 DAC that uses Sabre chips which leans bright. Are you using your K3's internal DAC? If so, it might that which makes it sound too warm. To me, the Roksan house sound if you will is more about being bold and a little punchy. Yes, it can be lush with certain models. For example, I had the Caspian Series-1 integrated long ago, it was lush and sounded great, but I wasn't using Dynaudio back then. The Blak doesn't sound nearly as lush.
Great review!! I'm a bit of a Dynaudio fanboy--within my budget. Special 40s are hands down my favorite speakers I have had the pleasure of auditioning for a small room and my musical tastes. But instead I ended up buying Emit 10 for a small office, and Excite x34 towers with X24C for my 5.1 setup. The Evoke line replaced the Excite line, and I am consistently reading that they are overtly warm and bloomy, which doesn't fit my tastes. The Excite sound close enough to Special 40, but slightly leaner, and not quite as authoritative. Another commenter mentioned how Dynaudio excels with not standing at first, but not leaving you fatigued. I have to agree, 6 years later with this setup, and I still enjoy music and movies alike with marathon awe. That said, I recently got the upgrade bug again, and not sure I want to go the Evoke route afterall. Maybe worth saving my pennies and upgrade my Emit 10 to Special 40. Same, upgrade my SVS sub in my 2.1 system to a REL. My dual SB3000 in my 5.1 system perform pretty well for a 50/50 Music/Cinema use.
hey what's up bro! I'd for sure suggest you go for the Special 40, used pairs can be found around $2k flat. The Evoke 20 is cool, but like you said it's not your taste, as far as subs I really think you're an LV12M customer, theres a guy in my discord that loves metal also and he went on a pretty serious subwoofer journey and settled on the LV12M pair. It has speed and transients that best many sealed subs and the thickness to convey double bass was force, speed, and scale that is still natural.
Or look for a second hand excite x38; I had them myself, very serious speakers and a remarkable upgrade over the x34 I owned previously.
Once again, a well done video. Love the comparisons. I was wondering how close, or far away, the Heco Aurora 300 bookshelf was to any of these. $2K is more than I want to spend.
The Aurora is a similar sound in many ways just slightly less warm. if you're trying to keep your budget under $500 for sure the Aurora 300 gets my vote!
Looking into used gear might get you closer to what you like
@@NemoPropaganda Thank you.
Heco is on a roll. Other speakers too with some on discount/closeout. I bought the ML 15i and like it especially for movies and shows. I liken it to a toned down Monitor Audio Silver 100 which was too much in my face at times where I had to constantly adjust the volume when lows and high sounds switched in the material whether movies or music. But the 15i doesn't have that issue, doesn't overwhelm you with overly accentuated upper mids and highs. Like a toned down Silver 100 while the Silver 50 was kind of boring, and a bit too analytical.
Not a dark speaker by any means and has good body but some feel fatiguing with music if one like a more neutral speaker. It's still smooth, at least for me. I have Triangle zetas (like the color series) which are softer, more laid back for an easy listen but can be a bit more sibilant with movies. The Dalis, are easy to listen to, with a sub sound like a great option for a neutral, all rounder.
For me, the Dali Opticon1 is small, more neutral but very articulate and good tone. That's the MK1 version but some have stated the new Opticon series are improved upon the previous series. Still not inexpensive and not wood veneered (for the price they should be) but very capable. There's a YT comparison between the Dyn Sp 40 and the new Opticon 2 and the dali really held up well. Alot of viewers liked it. Just an FYI.
As to Heco, the heco celan revolution 3 seems to be getting alot of attention too, improves with some upgrades for louder SPLs but is rather large for a bookshelf/stand mount speaker. Just an FYI. Some have stated the lower heco series can sound more woolly, but everyone responds differently.
These days, I like'em small. Amps, dacs and speakers. I have become a banana box budget audiophile/enthusiast.
Another good video. Is that your reviewer outfit or do you roll around in Huntington as the man in black?
my friends actually say I'm like a cartoon character because I almost always wear the same few clothes. I have like 20 black shirts and multiple pairs of gray, black, or blue shorts and all my hoodies are black. I only wear a hat about 50% of the time though, real purpose of the hat is to keep my shiny shaved head from drawing too much attention lol. I have a full head of hair, I just keep it super buzzed.
Put your logo on a black shirt when you do reviews and sell them as well as mugs. Patch the hat as well, it'll look cool. @@NemoPropaganda
@@nc3419 I don't know if that's my style tbh bro.
I auditioned these Evoke 20's. This is absolutely my sound, loved it. But the bass was too much, too bloomy, as you described. How can I solve this. WiiM pro with EQ-settings? Or does that affect the sound in a bad way?
the bass should not be too much but you certainly can bring it down with tone controls if your room is reinforcing it too much, it's also possible the wiim isn't up to the task. Tone controls to impact the sound, that's why purist amps don't have them but if you already have them you might as well use them if you need them. They're already in the circuit.
They come with foam plugs that can be inserted in the ports in the rear of the speakers. If they are close to the back wall, pull them out away from the wall. Sometimes speakers require experimentation.🙂
Hey buddy, at some point, would you be curious to try the Elac Solanos with the new jet 6 tweeter? No one touches those, yet I've read great things about their jet 5 tweeter and now with the jet 6, just kinda curious is all. Anyway great review as always! One more thing that I've noticed with Sonus Faber speakers, not too good with metal or any kind of distortioned guitar as they sound "crunchy". Just my observation. Btw, as to the Dynaudio sound, youre right with the bass being too bloomy. I compare and want everything to match my t7x and I don't think these could, maybe with a 6" woofer? Have a good weekend!
tbh my bro Elac has never been a speaker that's impressed me aside from the DBR62, I don't think I'm the right guy to review elac, I always end up thinking it's just okay and other stuff is better for the money.
@@NemoPropaganda honestly I agree with you for anything below the Carina (which was an Andrew Jones first time with a ribbon tweeter) which were pretty lack luster and undeserving of the hype mainly due to them being budget speakers, however their mid to higher end speakers are in a different ballpark alltogether. Like I said, their Jet 5 tweeters are somewhat highly regarded AMTs and I was thinking that you really don't review too many aside from the Super Mons. Anyway, try and give the Carinas, Solanos or the higher up Velas a try sometime as I think they in no way resemble the sound signature of their budget line. Just a thought in case you come across any of those.
Aren't Harbeth speakers very warm as well? I always here good reviews about them just curious if anybody has compared them to the Dynaudio's?
I have not heard them.
When I heard these speakers, they were so warm they made Celine Dion sound like Pavarotti. If you think Wharfedales are warm, this will be HOT. This warmness does not go away even with the most analytical class d amp and it muffles up the midrange. I personally do not like such a sound and dont understand how people would like such a sound but hey, everyone's different.
yeah, totally agree, we're hearing the same thing. It's like anything else in that some guys really love this type of sound. I used to be in a local audio group, most guys older than me and the majority of them wanted as much warmth as humanly possible. Some of the demos I heard were so warm you felt you were inside an acoustic guitar, it wasn't for my taste but I saw a lot of happy faces in the crowd.
Mixing and matching right gear is a real thing 😉. Nothing wrong with personal preferences. To light sounding stuff will always give listening fatigue thou. Enjoy your music 😊
Because it is very non-fatigiung. And they have a very full sound with a rich tonal balance. People hear differently.
@@cmessi many other speakers are non fatiguing, they dont sound as muffled and wooly as these.
No, people have different ears. What u find non-fatiguing, might not be for someone else. Especially modern speakers are a bit spiced up to impress listeners. Even some BBC-designs can sound bright.@@-MarkWinston-
Great review, Thanks. lousy microphone however.
yup, it's a brand new mic too, got another new one on the way. I'm not being cheap either.
You should give emit 30 a try, awesome small tower speaker
towers aren't something I usually review.
Ok, awesome reviews btw, keep it up man!!
Wow I didn't expect to see this Evoke review, I'm actually very interested in these speakers I would like to have nice upgrade over my Elac DBR62. Could you please give me a quick comparison. I guess my biggest concern is are the Evokes warmer then my DR62's overall. I'd like something a little more clean then what I got now. Thanks
This is a lot warmer than the DBR62 my bro! IMO the Heco Celan is a good upgrade or KEF R3 Meta, the Celan is a lot more open than the DBR62 with a lot more sparkle. If that extra sparkle scares you then go for the KEF R3 Meta instead.
@@NemoPropaganda Hello Nemo, I'm reading through the comments and found this one, so if I understand correctly, the Hecos are more "lively" or "fatiguing" or only more transparent? ( Hope any of these descriptions make sense) than the Metas? I'm looking at those two speakers currently and don't like bright speakers like Klipsch for reference.
@@zombielandiii2711 simply put the Celan is brighter than the R3 Meta.
I can confirm: evoke are one of the warmest speakers. But that doesn't mean they sound bad. They offer e nice warm bath of sound. Very intimate.
Other speakers with a more open sound are Neat Acoustics. Motive range.
@NemoPropaganda So I think my final selection would be Heco Celan, KEF R3 Meta, 400sII, SP40. So what do you think between these four I mentioned. I like my DBR62 a lot but I would like something little more clean and maybe more open and effortless when playing at louder volumes. I can also tell you I tried MA Bronze 100 and I didn't like them they were too cool, I'm kind of sensitive to too much treble. I like treble but not when it's over done if that make sense. I want something like the DR62 but just better a definite step up. Maybe if you could pick two speakers out of the four I mentioned and I'll go back and rewatch the reviews for those speakers. Thanks alot.
I had mixed feelings about the Emit 20’s , first I used a Hegel H120 and the bass became boomy and lacked definition very quickly when the volume was turned up , switching to the H190 improved things quite a bit and definitely had more control over the bass drivers . I definitely think that Dynaudio need that extra power to sound good ( I had heard lots of other people speak about this too) but overall I found the Dynaudio sound to be a bit boring at times and lacked excitement 🤔
I tried the Emit 10 and similar to your experience. When there was bass there was alot, not the tightest and bled into the mids a bit. Male voices sounded good but mixed with female and while it had a wide stage, it was too 2D for me. Also, alot of detail went missing or recessed not neutral for me and I seem to prefer a bit more accentuated but still wispy highs as I have ears "OAF" (Nemo's description) but that's my preference and in my room. Emits were perhaps overly refined and unbalanced for me. I have found not all soft domes work, some being too shrill, some too dead, some pretty good. Same with any material I suppose. Also, don't care for Kevlar although it's supposed to be capable of greater tonal accuracy according to some. Paper seems good, doped or infused, some polypropylene and Aluminum drivers can be fast and exciting but some are too much and some too dull as well. What a strange hobby.
Also, regarding the Emit 10, the performance changed way to much in music and movies, very strange sensation over listening sessions. Comparatively, I have the Opticon 1s which are much smaller and sound smaller too but not too small stage, just not overly large given its size. The Emit 10 sounded larger than it was...sometimes. Opticon is more neutral, controlled, very good resolution and the detail to go with it...IMO. It's a good kind of boring for those of us which like a more lively sounding speaker. I have Martin Logan 15i and Focal 807Ws for that, including Triangle Zetas which offer a more laid back and softer, euphoric sound despite having a metal tweeter. Different flavors but all good. Dynaudio for me, not so. But could say that about alot of other speakers as well that others would like. Different strokes for different tastes. Given my tastes, I would not pursue Dyns, SF, among some others although I would like to hear the Lumina series.
I think Thomas and Stereo matches more my tastes while others are opposite, some closer to what I like too, some just downright entertaining, which is fine as I can ascertain SQ ideas and opinions from any reviewer once I get a sense of what they like or don't like, respond to , etc.. That's helpful for me too.
Using both a Keces E40 and a Hegel h160.
To top things off, I thought the Dyns sounded great when I was in another room, so it has that going for it if you are way, way out of the sweet spot.
yeah, emit bass is a little uncontrolled, such is common with affordable speakers that have strong bass.
I too found that the Emit 20s lacked exitement, but female vocals sounded very authentic and they had great Bass Extension, but i heard some cabinet resonance, which was a total turn off for me 😢...i ended up selling them and use LS50 Meta for music now. The Emit 10 on the other hand have a very natural sound, i prefer them over the Emit 20 and i use them for a movie setup. I plan on getting the Emit 30s, for a bigger Bass foundation.
@@selassie123GA sorry I made an error when writing my first message, I actually used to own the Emit 30’s ( small floorstanders)
If you enjoy the sound of the ls50 meta then I would advise you to not go with with 30’s very loose bass and poor constructed cabinets with virtually 0 bracing , nothing like the solid cabinets with your meta’s.
If you can I would suggest spending a bit more for a better quality speaker that you won’t be disappointed with.
@@hclandscapes wow, thanks for the suggestion. I will consider it or not buy the emit 30 blindly then. Maybe adding a good sub to the Emit 10 would be enough for movies.
Nice review brother.
Can i join the group of audioholics against warm speakers?
I can understand why they fit certain people....but feels like watching " Ferris Buhler", when the teacher says ( Buhler, Buhler, Buhler)....... dont want to hear Ben Stein coming through my speakers 😂
Hi, which one is the best buy, Emit, Evoke or special forty?
Personally I loved Special 40 & Emit very much, that was more to my taste. Evoke is for the customer that really loves the warm sound.
Nemo, But you like bright speakers and recommend them often. Focal 806 for example. So huge caveat. 😅
@@TD05SSLegacy I don't agree with that entirely. My favorite speaker of all time that I use most often is the Buchardt S400 MK2 which is not a bright speaker by any means. I do enjoy having more open and expansive speakers also though.
@@NemoPropaganda Yes, your tastes have improved. Good on you! 👍
I think the Poron tweeter in the Focals are much more refined that the older ALMg drivers which have more accentuation which I personally prefer. No longer as bright as their older reputation is or was. @@TD05SSLegacy
Thank the Houthies 😢
no no no, we don't do polotics here.
@@NemoPropaganda Fact European audio will be more to much more expensive due to supply chain issues. Nothing to do with politics.
Outregeously expensive for what you get
is it though? I felt it was priced fairly for a speaker made in Denmark. Don't get me wrong personally I prefer the cheaper Emit but I don't think Evoke is overpriced. It's fidelity is on par with the simlarly priced buchardt and R3 Meta, it's just much warmer & darker.
@@NemoPropaganda I can name you several much better speakers at much lower a price. These are nice near field monitors, not room-filling speakers.
@@WhiteRvssian2023 I can't promise you I'll agree with you but sure I'd love to hear what you think is better for less money.
whats the point of this? this could be a 2 minute read on reddit/headfi without the bloat
your dad could have just nut in a rag instead but he didn't did he, instead he made you, so everyone makes useless stuff every now and then. I'm gonna learn you something child, value is in the eye of the beholder, don't walk around in life declaring your opinion left & right when it's useless, you'll just be "that guy", and nobody likes that guy. I make content for people that like it, I didn't solicit you, you came here. You don't like it then just keep scrolling my man.
$2,400?
lolol, yeah, it is a bit unfortunate, I think at most it should be priced alongside the R3 Meta but it is made in denmark which adds to the cost.