Never Before Seen Object Collided With a Neutron Star and Nobody Knows What
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Hello and welcome! My name is Anton and in this video, we will talk about a very strange gravitational wave that suggests a never before seen cosmological object
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arxiv.org/abs/2404.04248
arxiv.org/abs/2309.12644
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Hi Anton, I was a part of the editorial team for this discovery. Thanks for covering GW230529 on your channel!
Keeping the unknown in our feeds.
Thank yews, Anton!
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@@douglaswilkinson5700I don't believe so.
@@douglaswilkinson5700 I am aware! friendly reminder tho, thanks, m8
@@douglaswilkinson5700You've gotta be kidding..... I could see 10%, maybe, but that's a lawyer level cut. YT has incredible creators, but it's really gone downhill as a platform in the past 3 or 4 years.
The newly developed caste system in the comments is a means for the sense oars to delete subject matter that is not to be intelligently discussed by critical thinking humans ✌️on this venue it is almost impossible and I urge all to migrate for a more realistic experience. r u m b l e . love& light ✌️
There is only one remaining mystery in the cosmos. How does Anton read, comprehend, and explain all this research in such engaging ways? Daily? Even if he might have help? 😲🙌. Amazing! Thanks Wonderful Person Anton! ❤ 🙏 from a retired PhD down the road from Stanford.
Its inhuman .. He is just that wonderful of a person.
The mystery thickens, when you realize that anton is not a physicist, or have a phd.
ChatGPT xd
Please stop 🛑
Thought that was my comment
Considering neutron stars and black holes all merge with each other at least fairly regularly, and can easily produce a black hole in the so called mass gap, I think the simplest conclusion is probably the correct one here
This channel is rapidly becoming my nightly watch. Best astronomy/astrophysics channel on YT, next to PBS Spacetime. Keep up the excellent work!
I keep asking for an Anton/Dowd collaboration. Fingers crossed, that would be awesome!!!!!!!!
We know nothing, clearly. We observe, guess, and then come up with elaborate math that is quickly disproved when we apply it to better observations.....but Anton still rocks. Keep fighting the good fight sir!
Man I love this channel ❤
Thx Anton l, I leaning more awesome things about space here, than anywhere ever!!
I never miss a day of Anton. Great stuff.
I love LIGO, and I was so excited when i found out they were planning on building it. Even more amazed they pulled it off. I know we are going to discover so much about everything. It applies to quantum physics just as much as "large" reality. Thank you Anton!!! Gr8! Peace ☮💜Love
It's lies. They faked the so called gravity waves - result & continue to defraud the government.
As a kid I wanted to be a physicist and had to interview someone in my future career. I was connected via telephone with a guy working on the early days of ligo. I became an engineer but still remember that guy who took time to talk about ligo with a 14 yr old.
@@robertb6889I wonder who you spoke to? I retired last year after working almost 30 years as an engineer on LIGO. Don't think it was me though... Glad you had a nice experience.
QUESTIONS:
a. What exactly is 'space' that it can warp?
b. What exactly is 'time' that it can warp?
I don’t know. I think it was a physics PHD student or postdoc - not someone with an engineering degree. It would have been in the early 2000’s, for someone with a relative who was a librarian in a middle school.
I know make computer chips.
a quark star. strange matter bubbling under a quark crust.
that's been my ill-informed guess of the day.
I’m curious what the separation would even be from a blackhole though, unless we’re somehow not past Schwarzschild Radius yet🤔
it's a Spactertron.
Professor Petrov, you never cease to entertain and enlighten.
Hi Aton , and Thankyou , to the Team , 💐🎁
It's crazy but before I even read comments, I wanted to say how awesome Anton is! There was something about this post that drew out our praise of this wonderful person. Kudos Anton!
I joined his Patreon after watching a number of his videos. I hope he makes enough money from his Patreon that he can spend time finding out about this stuff that most us would never know otherwise.
Thank you Anton. Stay wonderful.
❤❤❤Anton much love to you and family❤❤❤
He is a wonderful person 🙂
Just had my Anton Fix for the day!
Same here , I need to always make sure to watch one of his videos daily. Either it be a new one or a recap of an older one.
Anton, how do they manage it? When I use a laser on something, the cat attacks it. This really screws up any potential findings. I am baffled, and very impressed.
You adopt the Schrodinger’s cat that’s dead.
A cat MUST be present to supervise. Quite the conundrum.
@@andrewbouskill5444 😆
i don't think you'll have an issue with the cat anymore after it jumps in front of LIGO
@@CyCloNeReactorCore 😆😆😆😆😆
Hello Wonderful Anton! Thank you for your hard work and keeping us informed about many interesting things. Love, Grandma Linda in Martinsburg WV USA. 🤗🤗
I only discovered your channel a short while ago, but am incredibly thankful for your outpu! :)
With a nod to the old soft rock tune, "Good Vibrations". 😎
Love your videos Anton !
The gravitational telescope sees something we have not planned for routinely. Finally, an opening it a staid theory to study.
Can you please explain to us how energy (in whatever form) can escape two black holes colliding, if not even light can escape. Are we talking about the circling gas around the black hole that hasn't fall beyond the horizon?
Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. 🙏😄
Thanks Anton for another great video, more good brain food for a Friday. Staying WONDERFUL and still WAVING have a wonderful weekend. PEACE AND LOVE TO EVERYONE ❤❤.
Keep killing it man, as i always say: Yeet.
*yeets in support*
How about 2 merged White dwarfs that leave one object spinning ridiculously fast, for the mass gap object..
Same
When two white dwarfs combined mass exceeds ~2.4 solar masses it produces a type 1a supernova.
Less than that the angular momentum is conserved so the new object is spinning quite fast. How fast I don't remember. Neutron stars merge at about ⅓c.
@@douglaswilkinson5700 ~1.44 solar masses
Idiot question
@@denizkacan8007You are right. Good catch!
Ever since the discovery of gravitational waves, I've been wondering how the change in distances would affect quantum system and if it might not explain some things.
Makes me wish I was able to study this stuff for a living.
What kind of effects are you thinking? Cause remember that the LIGO detectors have 4 km long arms that are only contracted/expanded by ~10^-18 m (thousand times smaller than a proton).
"Makes me wish I was able to study this stuff for a living." Well you can, if genuinly serious about it. There are grants you can applie for, stipends handed out by goverments, and EU, and probably a few universeties that work on these kinds of stuff, that would be interested. Tho you have to go looking for those your selfe. I dont know where to start as i'm not interested in said fields and thusly dont know what to search for.
Nothing is ever truly impossible. We humans have a knack for saying that things are impossible, just to prove ourselfe wrong later on, after tecnology have caught up. We just havent figured out how to remove the IM from the POSSIBLE yet.
So if that is what you want, go, go look for it. follow your dreems, you never know where they will take you, if you are dedicated and hard working enough. I belive in ya buddy.
@@mr-x7689It takes 10 years of post-secondary university education to earn a PhD in astrophysics. The advanced mathematics -- e.g. differential geometry and tensor calculus -- is very difficult.
It is interesting that gravitational waves are a thing ! We always say that gravity is not a force, but it still has waves.
I think it's more accurate to say quantum field wave. A wave in space, but not in time (because it travels)
What if it was an electroweak star? Like a rare transitional object between massive neutron stars and black holes that can only exist within an extremely minuscule mass range. It would appear like an unusually lightweight black hole from earth, especially when observed through gravitational waves exclusively. These grapefruit sized electroweak stars are only theoretical tho, but it’s a fun thought experiment. (under those extreme conditions, the electromagnetic force and the weak force combine into a single force called the electroweak force, creating repulsion force holding the barely stable softball sized star from fully collapsing into a singularity)
Wouldn’t it already be a black hole if it had stellar mass inside a space the size grapefruit?
@@robertb6889 from the outside it would look extremely similar to a regular black hole but with a low mass. I’m not really an expert tho, I just read about in a Wikipedia article lol
Need additional mechanism for vibration. How exactly can such vibration be preserved, even under the immense repulsion that you are employing to counter gravitation? My reasons for asking are similar to how hyper-nova’s avoid event horizon formation
@@MarsStarcruiser Best way I can describe it is that under extreme and very specific circumstances, the neutrons break down into quarks and the quarks still have volume in space, albeit many times smaller than even the neutrons. Two quarks still really don’t want to be in the exact same volume and they’re literally packed together as tightly as physically possible, so they repel enough via the electroweak force to hold against gravity for a short period until quantum fluctuations cause instabilities or enough mass is acquired to allow full collapse into an unusually low mass black hole. I also don’t think they form from stars directly, more likely through some sort of collision between a low mass neutron star and a white dwarf or some other neutron star related collision event. They are still theoretical objects after all. None have been directly observed. There is a supernova upper mass limit where once a star exceeds it, the radiation pressure starts shredding off the outer layers of the star until enough material is lost and the radiation pressure is lowered enough to allow for full core collapse, kinda like what Eta Carinae is currently doing inside the homunculus nebula, resulting in a supernova and a regular stellar mass black hole.
@@zucottimanicotti7112 For me, I do think super nova around 25+ stellar masses can form black holes, but thats less than .01% of stars. An overwhelming majority of black holes would have had to been produced via neutron stars progressions, either quiet core collapse or kilo-nova, and then absorptions or mergers could then go on to explain the size variations, atleast on the lower levels. Hyper-novas don’t change my thoughts on this, only show something else I find interesting.
A large part of black hole formation may come down to the overall working of entropy rather than just specifically gravitation(unless 260+M). Super compression is a fight between repulsion and gravitation, and through that escalating restriction, a point is reached of bringing halt to particle vibration. Now effectively heatless… interact-ability declines(as we’re beginning to understand through BEC) and they start falling through each-other creating void for enhancing inward entropic flow, paving way for event horizon formation.
140+M stars can avoid this problem through sheer thermal saturation, at-least to an extent. Enough heat and even core collapse alone becomes insufficient to halt particle vibration. Entropic flow remains directed outward preventing event horizon even at densities potentially below Schwarzchild Radius, no black hole and maximum rebound lol… and pure unadulterated “Hyper-Nova” probably destroying almost everything within a few thousand light years and sterilizing a decent chunk of the galaxy😅
But anyways, for your scenario to work, I’ve kind of wondered if what you may need is a hidden charged 3rd body, electro inductively causing vibration to the spinning participants upon each pass. Scientists may not be able to discern this third wheel at play, just the two spinning via the gravitational waves.
That's pretty cool 😊Hello and Thanks from Belarus😇😇😇
Thumbnail: “Nobody knows what it was!!!” Video: Tells us what it was.
That's so much better than all the videos saying "business x destroys business y" or similar when maybe business x had a breakthrough that will take years to get to market and actually change anything.
Beautiful and deeply-informative work as always; your channel rocks!
Scientists: B-b-but the math
Universe: B-b-but the reality
Anyone who has built a grid cieling knows that reality does not reflect the math...
Wow, that was fascinating. Thanks, Anton. I'd never even heard of LIGO before. The detection apparati we have now would have been impossible fantasies when I first because excited about astronomy and cosmology. What a time to be alive.
Anton, the only real wonderful person here is you. You do precious work to spread the great thruth. I and many others will forever be in your debt
Analyzing waves;- about 4 years ago I gave a "hot babe," I didn't even know a wave (I lost count of the number of atoms I displaced performing this task) , she replied with a "get lost creep," tome.
I've never had a girl give me a book as a rejection symbol... 🤔
Why would you want to share this kind of information? I don't perceive your motivation?✌️
@@sandrajones1609Its a joke Sandra.
@@Anne2u Just not a very good one.
What if dark energy could be explained by the entirety of the fabric of spacetime being in a "crumpled state" from the singularity of the big bang. No different than if you crumpled up a table cloth, then spread it out across the table and charted it through time. And those huge vibrations in the fabric of spacetime that was mentioned at the end is just us going through a big crumpled part of spacetime as it smooths out.
Finally! Someone who understands.
Though the deeper implication here is that, you and I and anything that is a "crumpled state" of spacetime is that which expands the universe because the vacuum is the lowest (smoothest) and most fundamental form of energy that all other forms of energy convert to, as the universe reaches equilibrium by smoothing out. There are also further implications that this "uncrumpling" through the expansion of space is actually what causes gravity... which sounds absurd to some, except when you consider that GR predicts that vacuum energy should also produce gravitational effects. Indeed, you need only understand that dark matter seems to concentrate in a galaxies galactic halo to understand that all of the expansion of space within has to go somewhere. It doesn't just magically appear at however many megaparsecs. When the bullet cluster came to be, the expansion of space of those two clusters obviously had to go somewhere.
Heyy Anton 🎉
I always hit like even before seeing the full vid! Good guy Anton always delivers! 😊
IMHO.... The universe is vibrating because of all the gravitational waves of all strengths and frequencies from all directions all the time.
All frequencies: perhaps. All strengths: no. At high enough amplitudes gravitational waves would rip the Earth apart.
Oh a Blitzar!!! Entering guru meditation mode.
That's some heavy lifting!
How could the universe not be vibrating? With all that energy bouncing around out there. Whatever material space is made out of transmits this energy all around like a big gong.
Or the energy released is intense enough to persist in the void? Maybe it bounces off nearby objects to maintain its momentum??
@@conked944 The universe is quite a trip! How about instead of one big bang, there are millions times millions of bangs like popcorn popping? Each bang produces a galaxy. These bangs are still happening far far away at the source. I dreamt this just a few nights ago. Mark my words if some scientist comes up with the theory!
Our universe is vibrating and rippling with great power.
you're the most wonderful person! thank you for each and every video and smile you make!
detectors are way longer than 4kl, they bounce the light many times so its like way way longer man.
Thanks Anton. Why does it have to be a single object? It’s 650 million light years away, it could be a binary pair of white dwarfs orbiting a neutron star and their close orbit acts as a single mass when propagating the gravitational waves.
Read the papers upon which Anton bases his videos. There are links in the description.
@@douglaswilkinson5700thanks, I actually did look at them. I was referring to the mass gap object. The premise is it’s a single object. My question is how do they know it’s not a pair of close orbiting objects that from this distance appear to have that mass. I didn’t find that in the articles. It’s the same thing with looking for exoplanets and determining the mass of the planet. That planet could have many close orbiting moons that appears to make the planet’s mass larger when measured from our distance.
@@rwfrench66GenXAfter making observations -- as accurate as possible -- astrophysicists use mathematics to determine masses, etc. of planets, stars, BHs, etc. In addition it's is known that multiple moons with close orbits to a planet can perterb each other's orbits causing them to crash into the planet or be ejected from the system. Moons have lower masses than the planets they orbit. Our Moon is only 1/80th or 0.0125 of the Earth's mass. Also, the two objects' orbital velocity increases significantly as the spiral down toward mergering. (E.g. two neutron stars' velocities are almost ⅓c!) At these velocities any moon, etc. would be ripped away from these inspiraling objects.
@@douglaswilkinson5700 and every day Anton releases a video of some new discovery or event astronomers didn’t believe was possible. Jupiter has four moons that would be considered major planets if they were orbiting the sun because of their mass. There’s been deep learning computers that have discovered exoplanets because astronomers only looked at data that had a 95% or higher chance of having an exoplanet. I get their time is limited but the quality of the data isn’t the best, from there it’s filtered and analyzed using preconceived notions, and when we can’t explain 95% of what’s going on it seems precarious to label a mass gap object as a single object instead of considering it could be a pair of smaller very close orbiting objects that from a distance of 650 million light years appear to create a gravity well of a mass gap object that defies explanation of what we believe we do know.
I really wonder if things could poke at the other side of the space-time fabric, and be noticed as a gravity wave on our side.
6:16 I thought that was most likely also.
10 minutes old video,1,5 k watches, 256 likes
Very cool. I hope there will be a more solid theory soon.
Great episode Anton!
I'm not pretending to know, but I just had a thought that maybe this unknown object is in transition between states of mass, but the incredible space time waves are slowing the collapse.
just a theory, please don't take it so seriously
Such effort. So much respect
Thank you Anton you really are .my favorite top of the league youtuber/teacher. Love.
waves are the heartbeat of the universe, when it stops, all life stops.
Well, seeing as according to quantum field theory everything is made of waves, you’re not wrong
magnetic waves, electrical waves, lights waves, sound waves and no doubt some unidentified waves✌️
Just saw the store...I need a white wonderful person T-shirt
I think I'm going to buy one of your shirts, particularly that blue one that I see on the shop next month because I think it's cool
Every day more and more I find tesla was the Smartest person to ever live. How many decades ago did he say " if we want to understand the universe we need to understand energy, frequency, and vibration"
Mind boggling stuff... Thanks Anton you always supply me with wonderful videos.
Interesting information and knowledge, thanks 👍😊
Thanks anton!
All the science channels repeat the same stuff but Anton gives us fresh content daily THANK YOU
Renewable dark energy outside of entanglement of mass passes through mass in chain reactions until resistance is overcome by open space itself, then returns to dark energy outside of entanglement of mass?
multi verse of galaxy Fireworks is beginning to shape up with more & more highlights on scale plus emerging energetic subjective properties than anyone imagined
So good to know that the universe is vibing 🎉
My theory of cosmology predicts lots of small super dense remnant "ejected" singularity masses, as well as the remnant
"cooling" cores of the once smbh's that were formed in the chaotic mass-momentum exchanging process that formed the ejected masses. I'm almost certain that "black holes" need to be re-thought from the ground-up(yes I mean ground-state* of the electron). I believe it's mass is in some configuration that does NOT form into the "elementary" particles, due to it's inherent di-polar stability.
Yet this mass would still exist and "take up space", and could be interpretted as infinite density, the more precise any measurement of density is made.
Hydrogen came AFTER the 1st SMBH era. Before that, the di-pole collapse and creation of physical-space.
Just a comment to help out, banging channel brother and thanks for your time and effort...
My guess would be an object that used to be a neutron star that previously either accumulated mass over time or already collided with something but instead of spreading all over managed to pull itself back together.
String theory was right all along!
I just realized that any orbital version of the gravitational observatory would require an insane amount of computational power. This is because the distance is between the units would be constantly changing and would result in interference patterns just from the drift alone. So now you have to computationally separate the interference from the drift from the interference from the gravitation... That is a lot of math. 😅
Fraser Cain discussed an orbital LIGO with a scientist. There are several challenges in designing, building and operating one.
@AntonPetrov... I'm wondering why accretion discs around black holes don't create supernovas like they are created around white dwarfs in binary systems wherein the dwarf is absorbing material from its partner. Can you explain that? It might make an interesting episode in your wonderful channel's exploration/explanation of the universe.
If I recall correctly, the nova created by white dwarves are caused by ignition of the gas cloud and outer layer of the orbiting star's atmosphere, triggered by something happening in the white dwarf. Something happening inside a black hole is probably not going to trigger such ignition, because that energy can't escape.
Please note the temperature difference of white dwarf surface(18,000) vs hottest parts of accretion disk(18,000,000). You’ll see it differ by about 1000 times. One is cool enough to essentially build up pressure for a spontaneous burst down the road while other is on continuous ignition
This does make me wonder if we checked a map of all of the high metallicity stars and did a fine structure gravitational lensing search if it could possibly be a good search area for mass gap black holes and also help bring the gaps in cosmology closer in line more so if it gives more weight to primordial blackholes in the process every little bit helps. Collating all of the newest data as a whole including the new neutrino data (Still waiting ) might certainly help being as it's now looking into the great attractor etc.
What scares me about the universe we currently belive in is how every eliment in it seems different . . . Not like water in a river as most might reasonably infer. The thought inspired is that whatever is going on in water must be even more amazing that space because the time gap is less.
Feedback welcomed.
Anton ,
Could this vibration be a remnant of the BIG BANG ?
the symphony is awe inspiring
I have been waiting for LISA since Kip Thorne mentioned it in a speech at UBC in 1998.
Binary stars are very common. One became a Neutron star before the other more massive one collapsed, so the Neutron star became more dense and drew the corona off the other star, maybe with multiple novas, until the non-neutron star couldn't have a proper super-nova - leaving an odd-sized black hole.
IDK enough to say that I'm even close.
That graphic at about :40 seconds deserves a seizure warning... Wow.
Maybe the larger object was a recent neutron star collision that was still spinning at such a high rate that it couldn't collapse into a black hole.
Everyone is going to scream aliens because they're stoopid 😂
We live in the future! Amazing! Keep accelerating!
It has to be a black hole that is the product of two smaller objects, white dwarves/ light neutron stars.
I'd guess that too.
Thank you for your dedication Anton. You were one of the first channels i ever subbed to. Waaaaaay back in the Universe Sandbox days. Its been amazing watching you grow yourself and your channel. You good sir are the wonderful person. God bless 🙏
I love these vagabond intergalactic objects. I will marry one someday
A rogue planet or star?
Ima dance happily at the weddings parkinglot, m8
Thanks
What if, "dark matter" is all the same types of matter we have already discovered but existing on seperate vibrational planes? The quanta has slightly different value, such that we are 'out of tune' with it, and the only interaction is the gravitational field.
The prediction this scenario makes is that we never find WIMPS, or any other DM candidates, or we find that they are super rare in the universe.
This prediction matches observation wonderfully. That makes it a better scientific speculation than most other hypotheses.
what do you mean by vibrational planes? Like different dimensions?
Here we areistening to you explain to us what something we dont know what it is being explained to us giving us no more knowledge than we had before. But im here for it cause i like it.
The universe is a vibrator! That's the answer!
Failing that, I am amazed that a neutron star can spin quickly enough to stave off collapse into singularity. Stranger than we can imagine, indeed!
Thank you, Antonl
If it stretches/expands, it also vibrates. You can't one without the other. An interesting study would be the direction of the vibration(s). If there is a definite echo, that means the universe has an edge.
Gravitational waves is the essence of life throughout all the universes.
Fascinating!!!!!
I thought the limit of about 2.5 solar masses beyond which stars collapse into black holes was called the Chandrasekar limit, and Oppenheimer's was for white dwarves
I absolutely love your videos, but I always think of the great Ricky Bobby quote “I don’t know what to do with my hands” each time I watch 💪🏻😂👍🏻 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Your previous video makes me think that it may be possible to explain some of these mass gap objects as near supermassive blackhole collisions could it not? Idk seems like a lot of exotic objects could be created in these galaxy forges.
do you think there is an attraction between binary objects which involve more than gravity, such as energy in the form of combustion, although technically, combustion is an outward force? and does the collision of stellar bodies necessitate an n-body... please cover also the T Corona Borealis "coming up" !! thank you, Wonderful Person! ❤🎉
Sooner or later someone is going to click to the Time-Space problem in physics lol
Thanks Anton. Always interesting and informative :)
I will never thank you enouth for your work, i learn a lot here, i becamea addicted to this, and this is the healthiest addiction of my life^^
Cool beans Anton. Thx.
There's a unaverse worth of dark matter. A unaverse worth of spacetime coming in. And a unaverse worth of dark phones hitting our radios. This was a dark star. And there is another dark unaverse. That murged with ours. This was the big bang. Come on, people.
Throughout all of human existence, our only means of observing the Universe outside our planet has been limited to the electromagnetic spectrum. Even the invention of visible light telescopes, followed by radio and upper band receivers has been confined to the EM spectrum. The use of laser interferometry to detect gravity waves is a completely new way to detect events. The revolutionary, groundbreaking nature of this technology cannot be overstated. And it is in its infancy.