God literally built Artosis and Brood War to merge together. I believe that if Artosis was not born, BroodWar would not be alive anymore. The absolutely perfect mix between the pro players pushing SC to its mechanical limits and Artosis absolute perfect commenting on top of the video is a pure blend. Without these casts, these games would be in the void. WOOT
wow, ive never seen a zerg sac lurkers for vessels like this before, it makes a lot of sense to try and deny that continuous value that vessels tend to get over time though I really like this take on the strategy
Just found you’re channel and this is the first video of yours I’ve ever watched. I watch a couple other Starcraft channels, but I think you might be my new favourite. I love how you explain the game within the games, not just telling us what players are doing but why! Excited to watch more, just subscribed :)
Wow you're so new. He's been casting StarCraft professionally for over a decade and a half. Welcome! Hell I remember watching him and Tasteless casting in 2008 during the ol' GomTV days
yea they just hard counter Terran super hard because terrans only melee is firebat and protoss has zealots but also storm on clouds just dominates it but if defilers didn't exist terran would just walk over zerg late game no chance with tanks and marines
Defiler is ridiculously OP against terran. Especially because tanks are a core unit in the terran army. Honestly to this day how you’re supposed to counter it effectively when you’re in a defensive position is a mystery
1:30 it is very sad indeed, every time I hear the name Jangbi I feel a little too much nostalgic. In another universe we enjoyed a couple of years of himsitting in the #1 Kespa rankings and it is now consensus among BW lovers that during his peak he showed us the best Protoss version the world has ever seen. Long live the Almighty
Stuff like this is why I have a sour taste in my mouth towards SC2 and SSB brawl. The sequels that took the wind out of the sails of two of the best esports.
I have sleeping issues in a minor form of perma insomnia, I love putting my phone next to my head and have the game play out like a movie in my head with this commentary. 😂😂 4:39am rn
You need to sleep. IF necessary get rid of your phone. Sleep is literally the most important thing in life. If you dont get it, you will slowly lose everything.
Artosis, I unfortunately let life get in the way of StarCraft. Your daily cast gives me my fix. It’s the same variety I got while playing myself and I can watch without devoting all the time it takes to stay competitive. Thank you
Terran so OP. Can do bunker rush, then quick expand while zerg does very quick low eco 2 hatch muta. Yet Terran can still sunken bust before mutas come out
Only way you can sunken bust is with tanks and if you already have 2 or 3 sunkens up nobody is going to try and soak up those losses unless you decide to go all in and have built 3+ barracks at that point and skip going up the tech tree and just straight up just go mass m&m. Which nobody ever does either because if you don’t succeed they’re going to go lurkers and it’s gg. Also dark swarm is OP
Around ~5:08 JYJ had like a dozen marines vs like 8 zerglings and walked like half way across the map and zerg didn’t make any sunken or anything. Couldn’t he just have walked all the way across the map and rally more marines and won the game right there?
He didn’t have scouting info, if effort was massing lings jyj would have lost that fight. Typically zergs can get sunken up too, but effort was cutting corners.
I always thought that hydras could beat, head on, a bio army if you have the right numbers, plague and some decent micro. FINALLY! I see it done properly.... after like 15 years of watching starcraft. The other one I'm waiting to see is that... you can actually save a ton of defilers from dying to iradiate, by ivesting in overlords drop upgrades.... you can't target a defiler if it is inside an overlord. So you will use it just like high templars and shuttles. You unload, cast your spells and upload again. But I guess I'll have to wait another 15 years for that one xd.
You can see how much better the Zerg has to be to overcome Terran imbalance, Terran needs a nerf badly and well done to the Zerg, which despite playing an inferior race have superior skills.
Pah, as long as Zerg is winning the game you should shut up about balance.
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I hate hearing drones die 😔they make an irritating sound when the fall to firepower. If I was that Zerg player, I would be breaking my pc just of rage, cus losing 3 lurkers to that tag team would drive me crazy ❤️
JyJ had a rough game this time. Seems like he didn't map out his base layout to beat mutas and was overall just sloppy this game. Effort did just normal muta harass and did massive damage. Either JyJ didn't expect a normal timed lair after a successful bunker rush, or just had a bad game. At 13:00~ minutes he literally sends scvs back to his natural when he still hadn't consolidated defenses. His valk micro was the most atrocious part of the entire game, as he literally threw them away against the muta/scourge blob without support over and over and let effort snowball his already dominant air supremacy. Definitely deserved to lose this game
he came back in 2017 very shortly and got stomped in online sponsored games (he cited anxiety while streaming being a large factor), and he just didn't feel comfortable being a streamer (the entire landscape of pro play is based around streaming culture now), so he quit and works for his family now.
jyj threw this game so hard lol. let his marines autoattack drones instead of focus firing so he only got like 2. should have just kept killing mutas in retrospect. played way too aggressive with his marines and didn't defend his turrets. didn't manage his air units and kept letting them die for free. billions of vessels but no repairs and no eraser on the 9 o'clock base he was sieging. obv i'm not a pro and cannot do a fraction of anything that happened in this game, but he made so many mistakes and still had a chance to win
Counted no less than 8 vessels just thrown away, 3 of them at the end just bad rallies across the map. Sloppy. Also, 2 overlords just outside JyJ’s base, never cleared them, he took his last Valkyrie and just flew it across the map trying to hunt Mutas and immediately lost it to scourge, kill the overlords, an easy 2 outside your base that you knew about and another one at the 9 o’clock, that’s just free value he left on the table. Sloppy sloppy sloppy.
Do be honest looked more like Soulkey, which is the best player with that style or action who pulled the dark swarm only lings some years ago. Though effort also showed how good he is with that style last ASL... Effort apm level until 11 minutes or so than it dropped quite
@@MrTheQuestionerI always find it amazing that such a seemingly unique name was used twice and in the same game! Like I understand there being multiple "Hero", but "SoulKey" ? Is "the key to (one's) soul" something in South Korea?
The ASL where JyJ won, he didn't win because he was the superior player but rather just a poor showing of most of the other pros and luck with matches.
I don't care what anyone says, one of these days we will get a T-player that is really good at microing Valkyries and actually repairs Vessels - and that player will just fucking dominate. Shiesses we see 1.000 1.000 mineral/gas being lost in the span of 30 seconds to just a couple of hydras.
I think that is the next step for T in TvZ. We hardly saw Firebats and Valkyries in ASL just a couple of years ago and now they are staple units. As skill levels keep increasing, like you say, the Terran that can find the APM to keep vessels and valks alive will dominate TvZ.
hahah, well maybe build more. It is so funny when you play on lower level they build much more turrets. And usually they are more effective there... Because muta micro sucks... On Pro level we see them often not building enough.
He is great at 1/1/1 builds and wraiths, early cheese early to mid game but late game yes compared to other ASL terrans, he is just okay or medicore late game. He is overrated(relative to ASL pros) just like Jaedong is.@@SmokerFace12
Epic cast, epic game. Gotta love Arty's passion for the craft.
keep it going Arty, your casting channel is amesome
That muta control for so long was amazing, and so much harder than it looks
God literally built Artosis and Brood War to merge together. I believe that if Artosis was not born, BroodWar would not be alive anymore.
The absolutely perfect mix between the pro players pushing SC to its mechanical limits and Artosis absolute perfect commenting on top of the video is a pure blend.
Without these casts, these games would be in the void.
WOOT
wow, ive never seen a zerg sac lurkers for vessels like this before, it makes a lot of sense to try and deny that continuous value that vessels tend to get over time though I really like this take on the strategy
Just found you’re channel and this is the first video of yours I’ve ever watched. I watch a couple other Starcraft channels, but I think you might be my new favourite. I love how you explain the game within the games, not just telling us what players are doing but why! Excited to watch more, just subscribed :)
Wow you're so new. He's been casting StarCraft professionally for over a decade and a half. Welcome!
Hell I remember watching him and Tasteless casting in 2008 during the ol' GomTV days
Love how in any game Artosis has a “The best in the game” attribute for each player
Hey artosis guys here
what an exciting game. that was neck to neck up until the last minute
I guess this is another example of why Artosis calls defilers the scariest unit in the game.
yea they just hard counter Terran super hard because terrans only melee is firebat
and protoss has zealots but also storm on clouds just dominates it
but if defilers didn't exist terran would just walk over zerg late game no chance with tanks and marines
Plague against protoss is just nasty
Defilers are also crazy strong in zvp
Defiler is ridiculously OP against terran.
Especially because tanks are a core unit in the terran army.
Honestly to this day how you’re supposed to counter it effectively when you’re in a defensive position is a mystery
1:30 it is very sad indeed,
every time I hear the name Jangbi I feel a little too much nostalgic. In another universe we enjoyed a couple of years of himsitting in the #1 Kespa rankings and it is now consensus among BW lovers that during his peak he showed us the best Protoss version the world has ever seen.
Long live the Almighty
jangbi storms were a beauty to witness
Stuff like this is why I have a sour taste in my mouth towards SC2 and SSB brawl. The sequels that took the wind out of the sails of two of the best esports.
Would love to have him back in action. Wonder what he moved onto.
Fantasy is the head coach for a LOL team.
Fantastic muta control from effort! Totally took control, even though he was behind.
That plague on the marines at the very end hit basically all of them
Very unique army composition from Effort. Crazy that he played the last 10 minutes of the game without lurkers.
It was a very interesting game from a low econ point of view. JYJ never got rolling again, so Effort's low economy mix worked fine.
Gg, thanks for the cast, Artosis!
I have sleeping issues in a minor form of perma insomnia, I love putting my phone next to my head and have the game play out like a movie in my head with this commentary.
😂😂 4:39am rn
You need to sleep. IF necessary get rid of your phone. Sleep is literally the most important thing in life. If you dont get it, you will slowly lose everything.
@@majormononoke8958 yes, working on it 👌
Artosis, I unfortunately let life get in the way of StarCraft. Your daily cast gives me my fix. It’s the same variety I got while playing myself and I can watch without devoting all the time it takes to stay competitive. Thank you
Awesome game back and forth the whole time!
Epic as usual. Casting is the cherry on top. Thanks ArtosisCast.
crazy back and forth game
Fantastic game. I thought it was over at least 3 times
Great stuff, very exciting game. Love your casts
An amazingly back and forth game! Would love to see some snow or rain or scan games!
Damn defilers are so good. As Arty always says, the game changes once defilers are out.
Terran so OP. Can do bunker rush, then quick expand while zerg does very quick low eco 2 hatch muta. Yet Terran can still sunken bust before mutas come out
Only way you can sunken bust is with tanks and if you already have 2 or 3 sunkens up nobody is going to try and soak up those losses unless you decide to go all in and have built 3+ barracks at that point and skip going up the tech tree and just straight up just go mass m&m.
Which nobody ever does either because if you don’t succeed they’re going to go lurkers and it’s gg.
Also dark swarm is OP
That was a great game. It could've gone either way. Both players get an "A" for effort, but it's a "W" for EffOrt
Effort starts with "e", tho.
@@BenjaminGlattit means win right
@@TC_WarDoc yeah not being mean but he's probably a little autistic. that's the downside of this super nerdy stuff, you get these guys.
The joke.
@@TC_WarDoc's head.
Oh you rascal!
a masterpiece. great cast.
love it arty i need mor
Damn, this is crazily GREAT game !!!
Never see Hydra combo Ling with support of Dark swarm and plague like this !!! MasterPiece !!!!
@arty could you find some 20 min+ ZvZ games to cast? the hive tech games in ASL this season left me hungry for more
Zvp Style amazing
the skill level here is insane
God i wish we where in the timeline with eff0rt, Fantasy and JangBi in ASL. PLEASE
Around ~5:08 JYJ had like a dozen marines vs like 8 zerglings and walked like half way across the map and zerg didn’t make any sunken or anything.
Couldn’t he just have walked all the way across the map and rally more marines and won the game right there?
He didn’t have scouting info, if effort was massing lings jyj would have lost that fight. Typically zergs can get sunken up too, but effort was cutting corners.
you are the best caster Artosis..LOve you
Great comeback from a zerg player. At some point it was 17 drones vs 38 scvs.
Great game. Low supply and scrappy feels like an advantage for Zerg.
sick game, dat plague at the end...
I always thought that hydras could beat, head on, a bio army if you have the right numbers, plague and some decent micro.
FINALLY! I see it done properly.... after like 15 years of watching starcraft.
The other one I'm waiting to see is that... you can actually save a ton of defilers from dying to iradiate, by ivesting in overlords drop upgrades.... you can't target a defiler if it is inside an overlord.
So you will use it just like high templars and shuttles. You unload, cast your spells and upload again.
But I guess I'll have to wait another 15 years for that one xd.
sounds like a great idea!
Thanks for not having a spoiler in the title.
You can see how much better the Zerg has to be to overcome Terran imbalance, Terran needs a nerf badly and well done to the Zerg, which despite playing an inferior race have superior skills.
Pah, as long as Zerg is winning the game you should shut up about balance.
I hate hearing drones die 😔they make an irritating sound when the fall to firepower. If I was that Zerg player, I would be breaking my pc just of rage, cus losing 3 lurkers to that tag team would drive me crazy ❤️
God I love Hydra Defiler strats
Awesome game, awesome casting 👌
Amazing game. I watched it without disabling my ad blocker! I hate RUclips! :)
Awesome match!!
Sick game, sick cast
JyJ had a rough game this time. Seems like he didn't map out his base layout to beat mutas and was overall just sloppy this game. Effort did just normal muta harass and did massive damage. Either JyJ didn't expect a normal timed lair after a successful bunker rush, or just had a bad game.
At 13:00~ minutes he literally sends scvs back to his natural when he still hadn't consolidated defenses. His valk micro was the most atrocious part of the entire game, as he literally threw them away against the muta/scourge blob without support over and over and let effort snowball his already dominant air supremacy. Definitely deserved to lose this game
he put in the effort
Hey Artosis, speaking of Jangbi, what happened to him? Is he around in the Brood War scene to any extent or has he completely moved on?
he came back in 2017 very shortly and got stomped in online sponsored games (he cited anxiety while streaming being a large factor), and he just didn't feel comfortable being a streamer (the entire landscape of pro play is based around streaming culture now), so he quit and works for his family now.
Wow nice to see Zerg kicking terran
Do Terrans know that you can repair SVs?
~12 vessels popped because of no repair..
Sick Stuff!!!!
The correct comp to play against T is defiler + any other unit.
why set up tanks and pull all the bio away?
Insane
jesus christ effort is wild
This is Starcraft.
if effort had expanded at 9 o'clock first, then he would have been in a much better position during mid game
Why wouldn’t Zerg move to guardian scourge Muta earlier?
I see terrans suiciding plagued 1hp vessels left and right… Is it really not worth repairing them?
Normally it doesnt matter for JyJ, but this game i didnt have the eco you have in a normal game...
Nice of RT to feature a match played on a Christian map.
wondering why effort didn't take the safe third
effort did it twice vs flash, both 0-2 comebacks
hot damn that was a good zvt
All i know is Mutas are perfectly balanced and fair unit.
Amazing game is damn right.
Hey arty are we going to get the asl 3rd/4th place match on yt?
It's no longer played since the previous season I believe
What a great game!
jyj threw this game so hard lol. let his marines autoattack drones instead of focus firing so he only got like 2. should have just kept killing mutas in retrospect. played way too aggressive with his marines and didn't defend his turrets. didn't manage his air units and kept letting them die for free. billions of vessels but no repairs and no eraser on the 9 o'clock base he was sieging.
obv i'm not a pro and cannot do a fraction of anything that happened in this game, but he made so many mistakes and still had a chance to win
Counted no less than 8 vessels just thrown away, 3 of them at the end just bad rallies across the map. Sloppy.
Also, 2 overlords just outside JyJ’s base, never cleared them, he took his last Valkyrie and just flew it across the map trying to hunt Mutas and immediately lost it to scourge, kill the overlords, an easy 2 outside your base that you knew about and another one at the 9 o’clock, that’s just free value he left on the table.
Sloppy sloppy sloppy.
Yes more effort games!!
ah, JangBi... :(
this zerg composition is so nukeable....
Are we sure that's Effort? Unusually low APM for him
I mean he just got out of the military. He may not be in best of shape and this replay could be a few months old.
I was thinking the same thing, I think this is Queen.
I might be wrong, Artosis usually knows his stuff, the way this game ended make me question what I said.
Do be honest looked more like Soulkey, which is the best player with that style or action who pulled the dark swarm only lings some years ago.
Though effort also showed how good he is with that style last ASL... Effort apm level until 11 minutes or so than it dropped quite
@@majormononoke8958 Artosis his sources for gamer IDs and replays are very reliable, mistakes are still possible ofcourse.
Sick game
Why do we call it sk terran?
It was invented by a player called SoulKey (not the zerg player)
Thanks a lot! Didn't know that. @@MrTheQuestioner
@@MrTheQuestionerI always find it amazing that such a seemingly unique name was used twice and in the same game!
Like I understand there being multiple "Hero", but "SoulKey" ? Is "the key to (one's) soul" something in South Korea?
starcraft is starting to overtake theorycraft
I feel like last ASL was fixed
The ASL where JyJ won, he didn't win because he was the superior player but rather just a poor showing of most of the other pros and luck with matches.
WOW.....
Amazing game
Amazing game.
crazy game.
I don't care what anyone says, one of these days we will get a T-player that is really good at microing Valkyries and actually repairs Vessels - and that player will just fucking dominate. Shiesses we see 1.000 1.000 mineral/gas being lost in the span of 30 seconds to just a couple of hydras.
I think that is the next step for T in TvZ. We hardly saw Firebats and Valkyries in ASL just a couple of years ago and now they are staple units. As skill levels keep increasing, like you say, the Terran that can find the APM to keep vessels and valks alive will dominate TvZ.
These players apm is already at the human physical limit though.
Hydras
Is it just me or do turrets seem fucking useless for something that can only shoot air?
hahah, well maybe build more. It is so funny when you play on lower level they build much more turrets. And usually they are more effective there... Because muta micro sucks... On Pro level we see them often not building enough.
❤
Anti spoiler
why pretend that bw pro scene died because of starcraft 2, when in fact it happened because of the collusions
damnnnnnnnn
Such a great performance by both!
gg
Spoiler buster!
this terran was very weak
: )
Tell us the stupid reason you call it SK terran 😨 I'm tired of thinking it's "South Korean" terran
Popularized/invented by SoulKey, a pro terran from when dinosaurs walked the earth.
@@gasstationpeanuts1814 soulkey the zerg player?
@@drewwalbeck6006no, another player.
JyJ is not better than Light, not better than Royal and not better than Rush with SK terran mid-late game, he is just okay or medicore for a pro.
You are out of your mind for calling him mediocre?
He is great at 1/1/1 builds and wraiths, early cheese early to mid game but late game yes compared to other ASL terrans, he is just okay or medicore late game. He is overrated(relative to ASL pros) just like Jaedong is.@@SmokerFace12
Best SK terran player in the Word?Lol and what about Flash?
Flash hasnt even showed up since he left the military
первыйнах!
the cross in the middle of the map should be upside down. simply because gods not real. GG!