My guess is that it isn't exactly the same as the actual assets with gameplay-optimized LODs, it'd say it's potentially close to the in-game cutscene despite still on higher level of fidelity (look at Hellblade 2). Even the trailer itself was pretty clear with its own self-acknowledgement i.e. pre-rendered cinematic.
@@banjomir519 The assets that are rendered during real-time gameplay sequence vs cutscenes are two different matters, just because they're all happening in-game doesn't mean they're in a constant optimized state no matter what. Moreover, Hellblade 2 already shows why a lot of cinematic trailers purported to have used in-game assets, for all intents and purposes, will always edge out the actual game just by a necessary leap when it comes to the level of polish and consistency of the LOD. That's why I'm not questioning if it's an in-game asset or not but rather the asset LODs.
@@vith4553 So far, Nanite haven't been utilized by so many developers to fully replace the LOD system due to the known shortcomings of UE optimization. Also, I'm simply using the LOD for practical reasons because the way Nanite is utilized currently doesn't necessarily stray too far away from the traditional LOD system i.e. you're still required to phase the way assets are being rendered on-screen and especially, during the gameplay sequence depending on the complexity, the frequency of events where complex scenes (not referring to cutscenes btw) have to be rendered, and the transitions. You don't just brute force your GPU to render everything at staggeringly high poly counts at a **constant** level of consistency.
Insiders claim The Witcher IV could release as early as 2026, and given how people are saying CDPR confirmed in interviews the trailer used in-game assets 2026 seems totally feasible.
I wish they kept their RED Engine. It is an amazing game engine. The Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk looks phenomenal. Cyberpunk looks better than any Unreal Engine 5. Why kill the diversity? Why switch to Unreal Engine 5? Every game will look and feel the same. RED Engine was amazing, they should've kept it.
I think while the graphics look amazing in the trailer, things might change a lot until the game releases. I don't see the game come out before 2027 at the earliest. CDPR changes their graphics a lot between trailers and final release. We saw it in W3 and CP2077 as well.
I am a big fan of both Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077, and think that the latter in its' current state looks very impressive. I don't have any faith that this is particularly representative of how Witcher IV will look. On the other hand, I am sure it will look amazing.
I think they are aiming for this level of quality in the actual game but simple put the prerendered marker for future insurance if they dont meet expectations, simple as that.
Was the story of the previous games based on pre-existing successful books? If they have to come up with their own story this time it may easily not be as good. (As we have seen previously for shows like GoT or RoP.)
@@bollywongaloid indeed, the books all ended with all plot threads closed and character arcs complete, all the Witcher games are basically original stories.
@@cube2fox not to mention, Phantom Liberty (Cyberpunk as a whole really but especially the DLC) is some of the strongest stuff they ever did, writing-wise. There's literally 0 reason to doubt them, and if it weren't for grummz and his ilk trying to spark a gamergate 2.0 out of thin air nobody would complain right now.
They have an Nvidia cooperation going on, so they will use the Nvidia branch of Unreal Engine which has the most advanced path tracing support possible.
I was going to buy a new GPU but with the announcement of Witcher 4 I'll wait. If I'm playing this game, I better be playing it at Ultra, otherwise I'll lose my mind
"it may as well have been a CG trailer", it was a CG trailer. Unreal being the renderer doesn't change that. it is a pre-rendered computer generated trailer. cinematic, but the only thing we really learned was grown up Ciri was the protagonist, and Doug Cockle will be back as Geralt. Excited, but still want to see gameplay, and wait for review before I get TOO excited.
As much as I enjoy DF talking, I gotta say that these guys are being way too optimistic thinking that we'll be getting this level of fidelity for the Witcher 4.
I would expect them to use nanite skeletal mesh and all the nanite features even some new features, and path tracing like cyberpunk or better. idk what engine version they are using or if they will update it to a later version but they say they use a modified version of unreal 5 so could miss out on theese new features in 5.5 just hope they get nanite tesselation at least.
@damage968 He is talking about Nanite for skinned meshes, i.e. for game characters. Partial/buggy support for that was only added in UE5.5, so it is quite possible that this won't be used in The Witcher part 4. Which would mean the characters aren't quite as detailed or precisely shadowed as in the trailer or as in Hellblade 2, which was a much more constrained game with fewer characters on screen.
I found this trailer to be more impressive than the Witcher 3’s. It had a better structure, it told a story, and it revealed elements of the gameplay we’ve never seen before. I was more moved by the dialogue too.
I don't get the hype behind the constant use of UE5. If every developer used the same engine, it would be bland and lacking variety. Hence why different engines exist for different styles.
@@DesertSorceressCovfefeThe RED engine is leaps and bounds better than UE5. After 4 years of polishing and updates, cyberpunk 2077 is the absolute PC showcase. I have absolutely no clue why they decided to go UE5. Guess it will take 6 years this time to polish and optimise the Witcher 4.
Don’t even try to understand the criticism. The criticisms of her looks and stature as the main protagonist are coming from incels who are hyperopinionated and most likely didn’t even play TW3 until the end. TW3 is already a retconned version of the books and people loved it. Now people are getting mad over something because Geralt is not the main? Gimme a break. The Incel Army needs to hide under the mom’s basement and sit this one out. RANT over.
lol theve made 6 modern games only one of which had serious problems which were not only fixed, the game went on to be maybe the best they have done. cope harder
CD Projekt made company-wide changes to make sure another mistake like Cyberpunk's launch never happens again. If that's not enough for you, you have impossible standards that will never hold up to scrutiny
@nicr1159 see... this is exactly the problem with gamers, newer gamers don't understand the pain of early adopters. Every witcher release had issues TW3 was awful, you can check digital foundry's coverage of it. TW3 was the best performing witcher game in both metrics and performance on release day. And since then has gone through its own mini 2.0. CP77 was diabolically bad, like this isn't cute bugs and slavicjank of previous CDPR games, this was like yanking a fetus out mid cook. The games are amazing but every release has had substantial issues. thank you for coming to my ted talk.
@@philscott3759 nah, they have a track record of good games but broken games. I expect a well written story with good characters and a basic RPG. The game will likely be unoptimised as feck tho.
Nobody noted this : the boss of the village, the one who choose the girl, is not afraid of shouting "A witcher.." , he's not afraid of grabbing "the unknown witcher" by the shoulder to stop him. I guess he's not afraid or too much respectful of the womens, he just sacrificed one... so..why he stop, and his friends stop him when Ciri turn and reveal herself ? Is she famous , somehow ? I mean, like an Emperor?
@@dr_diddy it is established to be impossible in Witcher universe, regardless outcome is the same We won't know until the game releases, they are introducing a new school so they could even increase the number of active Witchers... Unlikely though
@@JeannieLove Guess I must be wrong then? Read the books if you like, no one except a small number prepubescent boys can survive the Trial of the Grasses. If CDPR retcon a main pillar of the Witcher's universe then I think that tells us all we need to know tbh
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CDPR have confirmed that the trailer does use game assets. They’ve also confirmed the trailer is a quest in game and you can change the outcome.
In a bunch interviews the devs confirmed the trailer was rendered in ue5 using in-game assets.
My guess is that it isn't exactly the same as the actual assets with gameplay-optimized LODs, it'd say it's potentially close to the in-game cutscene despite still on higher level of fidelity (look at Hellblade 2). Even the trailer itself was pretty clear with its own self-acknowledgement i.e. pre-rendered cinematic.
@@GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435 Do you not understand the meaning of "in-game assets"?
@@GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435 Do you know this thing called nanite?
@@banjomir519 The assets that are rendered during real-time gameplay sequence vs cutscenes are two different matters, just because they're all happening in-game doesn't mean they're in a constant optimized state no matter what. Moreover, Hellblade 2 already shows why a lot of cinematic trailers purported to have used in-game assets, for all intents and purposes, will always edge out the actual game just by a necessary leap when it comes to the level of polish and consistency of the LOD. That's why I'm not questioning if it's an in-game asset or not but rather the asset LODs.
@@vith4553 So far, Nanite haven't been utilized by so many developers to fully replace the LOD system due to the known shortcomings of UE optimization. Also, I'm simply using the LOD for practical reasons because the way Nanite is utilized currently doesn't necessarily stray too far away from the traditional LOD system i.e. you're still required to phase the way assets are being rendered on-screen and especially, during the gameplay sequence depending on the complexity, the frequency of events where complex scenes (not referring to cutscenes btw) have to be rendered, and the transitions. You don't just brute force your GPU to render everything at staggeringly high poly counts at a **constant** level of consistency.
Insiders claim The Witcher IV could release as early as 2026, and given how people are saying CDPR confirmed in interviews the trailer used in-game assets 2026 seems totally feasible.
I thought ciri never underwent witcher mutations
Apparently she does after Witcher 3.
I wish they kept their RED Engine. It is an amazing game engine. The Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk looks phenomenal. Cyberpunk looks better than any Unreal Engine 5. Why kill the diversity? Why switch to Unreal Engine 5? Every game will look and feel the same. RED Engine was amazing, they should've kept it.
I think while the graphics look amazing in the trailer, things might change a lot until the game releases. I don't see the game come out before 2027 at the earliest. CDPR changes their graphics a lot between trailers and final release. We saw it in W3 and CP2077 as well.
I am a big fan of both Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077, and think that the latter in its' current state looks very impressive. I don't have any faith that this is particularly representative of how Witcher IV will look. On the other hand, I am sure it will look amazing.
I think they are aiming for this level of quality in the actual game but simple put the prerendered marker for future insurance if they dont meet expectations, simple as that.
I thought it looked phenomenal, honestly. At this point people just complain about anything. I just hope the writing holds up.
Was the story of the previous games based on pre-existing successful books? If they have to come up with their own story this time it may easily not be as good. (As we have seen previously for shows like GoT or RoP.)
@ I’ve only played the Witcher 3, and that isn’t based on the plot in the books at all, it’s original for the game.
@@bollywongaloid indeed, the books all ended with all plot threads closed and character arcs complete, all the Witcher games are basically original stories.
@@dr_diddy That's a good sign then for the new (fourth) Witcher game, as there is no reason to assume the writing will decline.
@@cube2fox not to mention, Phantom Liberty (Cyberpunk as a whole really but especially the DLC) is some of the strongest stuff they ever did, writing-wise. There's literally 0 reason to doubt them, and if it weren't for grummz and his ilk trying to spark a gamergate 2.0 out of thin air nobody would complain right now.
Can’t wait to play this in 2028 on a $900 PS6!
I hope the game will have a path-tracing option like Cyberpunk does
Its UE5. It's not going to have these polished visual settings.
It'll probably look better, but I doubt the settings will be as polished.
They have an Nvidia cooperation going on, so they will use the Nvidia branch of Unreal Engine which has the most advanced path tracing support possible.
@@jkr9594 It's not normal UE5 they have their own version of UE5 for all intents and purposes, no one knows what they implemented or worked on there
I was going to buy a new GPU but with the announcement of Witcher 4 I'll wait. If I'm playing this game, I better be playing it at Ultra, otherwise I'll lose my mind
"it may as well have been a CG trailer", it was a CG trailer. Unreal being the renderer doesn't change that. it is a pre-rendered computer generated trailer. cinematic, but the only thing we really learned was grown up Ciri was the protagonist, and Doug Cockle will be back as Geralt. Excited, but still want to see gameplay, and wait for review before I get TOO excited.
Amazing video, thank you Digital Foundry.
As much as I enjoy DF talking, I gotta say that these guys are being way too optimistic thinking that we'll be getting this level of fidelity for the Witcher 4.
Shaping up to look 80% as good as Hellblade but while being an actual playable game. This is the way.
there are no gods here, only Monsters !
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I would expect them to use nanite skeletal mesh and all the nanite features even some new features, and path tracing like cyberpunk or better. idk what engine version they are using or if they will update it to a later version but they say they use a modified version of unreal 5 so could miss out on theese new features in 5.5 just hope they get nanite tesselation at least.
Considering even Wukong had Nanite... and it was developed in 5.0 or 5.1... Unless you mean Nanite for folliage, which was implemented in 5.2 I think
@damage968 He is talking about Nanite for skinned meshes, i.e. for game characters. Partial/buggy support for that was only added in UE5.5, so it is quite possible that this won't be used in The Witcher part 4. Which would mean the characters aren't quite as detailed or precisely shadowed as in the trailer or as in Hellblade 2, which was a much more constrained game with fewer characters on screen.
@@cube2fox thanks for clarifying
If anyone can fix UE5, it's people at CDPR.
@@VivekKumar-tn2ue It's not the same people anymore.
I was honestly disappointed by the trailer, but that was only because of the fantastic trailers of TW3.
I felt the same. TW3 trailer was iconic.
I found this trailer to be more impressive than the Witcher 3’s. It had a better structure, it told a story, and it revealed elements of the gameplay we’ve never seen before. I was more moved by the dialogue too.
That bar is too high to top, the Killing Monster is one of the best trailer in history.
PS6 launch game.
IT WILL PLAY THE BEST ON PS6 FOR SURE!!!! ONCE THE PS6 PRO RELEASES, THEN IT WILL BE THE BEST PLACE TO PLAY FOR THE REST OF THE GENERATION!!!!
Killing Monsters and Night to remember is still peak imo. Unreal has this weird bloom and perspective blur that just makes things look unfocused.
Are all UE5 games unoptimised?
Not all, but none spring to mind.
I don't get the hype behind the constant use of UE5. If every developer used the same engine, it would be bland and lacking variety. Hence why different engines exist for different styles.
ONLY COCKBOX GAMES ARE UNOPTIMISED!!!!!!!
@@DesertSorceressCovfefeThe RED engine is leaps and bounds better than UE5. After 4 years of polishing and updates, cyberpunk 2077 is the absolute PC showcase.
I have absolutely no clue why they decided to go UE5. Guess it will take 6 years this time to polish and optimise the Witcher 4.
No I played Wukong, Silent Hill 2 all looks amazing and ran fine. I'm not sure who these unoptimized "people are?"
I don't get the criticism, Ciri looks absolutely gorgeous to me
Same! So does the Intergalactic MC
Ciara Berkeley voices Ciri in The Witcher 4 and she sounds great.
Don’t even try to understand the criticism.
The criticisms of her looks and stature as the main protagonist are coming from incels who are hyperopinionated and most likely didn’t even play TW3 until the end.
TW3 is already a retconned version of the books and people loved it. Now people are getting mad over something because Geralt is not the main? Gimme a break.
The Incel Army needs to hide under the mom’s basement and sit this one out.
RANT over.
I think most of these weird gamers like their women to look underage. Any protagonist that looks like an actual real life woman instantly revolts them
Facts
hopefully it’s not a burning pile of excrement at launch
Full game release 10 years later.
They shouldn't rush it.
We have plenty of games to play until then.
2027 at the latest if want to follow their profit estimate.
How anyone trusts CDPR after Cyberjunk is insane.
You deserve it at this point.
lol theve made 6 modern games only one of which had serious problems which were not only fixed, the game went on to be maybe the best they have done. cope harder
Cyberpunk is a good game now at least
CD Projekt made company-wide changes to make sure another mistake like Cyberpunk's launch never happens again. If that's not enough for you, you have impossible standards that will never hold up to scrutiny
Except Cyberpunk can now easily go head to head with TW3 as CDPR's best game. Soooo...
@nicr1159 see... this is exactly the problem with gamers, newer gamers don't understand the pain of early adopters.
Every witcher release had issues TW3 was awful, you can check digital foundry's coverage of it.
TW3 was the best performing witcher game in both metrics and performance on release day.
And since then has gone through its own mini 2.0.
CP77 was diabolically bad, like this isn't cute bugs and slavicjank of previous CDPR games, this was like yanking a fetus out mid cook.
The games are amazing but every release has had substantial issues.
thank you for coming to my ted talk.
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30 fps FG enabled
if it comes out in late 2027 that is not that bad XD 2 generation old by then soon to be 3 gen old XD
@@Fr3akyFrapzPLAYS BEST ON PS6 AND PS5 PRO!!!!!!
@@Fr3akyFrapz yh tbf the performance will probably be a 6070 by then depending on competition from AMD/Intel
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YOU do. I don't anymore.
@@philscott3759 nah, they have a track record of good games but broken games. I expect a well written story with good characters and a basic RPG. The game will likely be unoptimised as feck tho.
@dr_diddy Dude, it's not the same people anymore.
Witcher 2 had abysmal performance for the level of graphical fidelity.
Uhhh bro, no.
Nobody noted this : the boss of the village, the one who choose the girl, is not afraid of shouting "A witcher.." , he's not afraid of grabbing "the unknown witcher" by the shoulder to stop him. I guess he's not afraid or too much respectful of the womens, he just sacrificed one... so..why he stop, and his friends stop him when Ciri turn and reveal herself ? Is she famous , somehow ? I mean, like an Emperor?
No it's clearly just the usual disliking of Witchers combined with the "wtf it's a woman", which is impossible in the Witcher universe.
@@UnimportantAccnot impossible just never seen before.
I'm pretty sure Witchers are borderline myths at this point in time.
@@dr_diddy it is established to be impossible in Witcher universe, regardless outcome is the same
We won't know until the game releases, they are introducing a new school so they could even increase the number of active Witchers... Unlikely though
@@UnimportantAccI've seen a million comments that say you're wrong actually
@@JeannieLove Guess I must be wrong then? Read the books if you like, no one except a small number prepubescent boys can survive the Trial of the Grasses.
If CDPR retcon a main pillar of the Witcher's universe then I think that tells us all we need to know tbh
Haven't CD Red stated that the PC game will be released prior to the console versions?
nope
2030 GOTY
future GAYm of the year
They Aloy'd her. If you know, you know.
TW3 adult Ciri is almost uncomfortably hot.
I don't get the Witcher series. They make RDR2 seem exciting.
it will be cross-gen and will come out on PS4 also
Sweet Baby Inc. will make sure this game is unenjoyable in ways we couldn't even imagine.
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Your comments are taking me right back to 2016
are you ok?
It will actually play best on PC so you are missing out big by compromising with a cute ps5 pro console
@@grogged9822this is the only thing he has in his life… pretty sad 😔