I did my best to louden this video like I have the other two, but for some reason Audacity wasn't making it very simple. I hope the video's turned out well. This one took me quite a while to make presentable. Audio really hates playing by the rules. This is also the first video I've written a script for. I hope I didn't sound too watch-mojoey.
Can you put subtitles? Easier to read subs than understanding you when you're not english ^^ like you can do both things if that doesn't take too much time
it should also be noted with the eyepatch that the sacrifice of depth perception for extra damage can be seen with the old king, who is missing an eye and capable of dealing more damage while being less accurate.
so... the gundead's religion usually rejects cursed objects like melee weapons, but in the abbey we see a lot of unholy things like jammed enemies, kaliber is also associeted with a lot of evil objects and eaven holds a sicle. this makes her a lot more badass, she doesn't feel like something the gundead could have made up add to their culture, she seems to have her own objectives that go past the gungeons rules. maybe most of the gundead are innocent and follow simple religious rules, but in the abbey they have knoladge of the power of curse. what if the bullet kin from the abbey spread the ideologies that some concepts are profane to the upper chambers so that they could keep all the knoladge and power for them selves?. sorry if i make some mistakes, english is not my mother lenguage.
"When the Gun is drawn to the heart of the pacifist, and when the chambers are empty and the shells are spent, the Last of the Jammed will ascend to seal The Breach forever..."
All curse comes from some bones in the hollow the abbey gundead were likely jammed by the old king considering he has them without the normal red and black look
"...The final bullet will leave the chamber and all will be reloaded..." I think this is about master round and the lich. You can only have the five first master rounds, because you can't have the lich's master round. Why? "According to the myth, the sixth remains unfired." - fifth chamber Master round's ammonomicon entry . Plus, according to the first master round's entry, master rounds are linked to The Gun (which shot the gungeon) "Apocryphal texts recovered from cultists of the Order indicate that the Gun and the Bullet are linked somehow.", which would mean there is still a round in it, before it need to be reloaded.
Might also be worth noting that there are only four main Gungeoneers in the game right now. Lamey will be the fifth and Gunslinger will be the *sixth*.
Let’s not forget that there is a cut sixth master round which has the Ammonomicon entry:”This impossible artifact indicates mastery of the final chamber. A holy shell. Simply looking upon it bestows a great peace upon your soul. The Gungeon is at rest.
The Litch seems to be tied into Kaliber for some reason, but I don't think he's as bad as we think. Like, during the events if bullet hell, and even when he pulls you into it once you have all 5 master rounds, it seems to imply that he's trying to stop you from using the Gun. He may know something we don't, and based on the game files that have been uncovered, it stands to show that he used to be a Gungeoneer himself, namley, the "Gentleman". The both do have the exact same clothing after all, and share similar attributes. Maybe The Gentleman found out the secret of The Gun, or maybe he was the one who shot the gun in the first place, and now wishes to stop anyone from using it? That would explain why he's been told to hold the Sixth chamber. When you kill him after his 3rd phase, he looks terrified. Almost as if he isn't ready to die yet. Plus, all of this does draw parallel to that one German Opera, of which I've forgotten it's name, where a man was bestowed by Satan A Gun and 6 Bullets for it. 5 of those bullets, when fired, would be sure to kill their target, but the last bullet, when fired, killed whomever fired it, and sent their soul to Satan. Maybe Kaliber did a same thing with the master rounds, and the Sixth one The Lich has is the one that'll bring about the end of everything or summon Kaliber? Something seems to imply that the Sixth Chamber isn't meant to be fired, and that The Gun or the Lich may be the only thing that can stop Kaliber once and for all. Maybe by using the Gun, we've been feeding souls to Kaliber through the pasts we've changed? Or maybe the use of the Gun keeps the Gungeon alive, and the Lich is trying to stop you to end the Gungeon once and for all? With the interdimentional nature of the Gungeon, maybe the Gungeon itself is Kaliber, and the reason why it was shot was to Kill Kaliber, and once the Gun Is "Reloaded", Kaliber will come to life? Edit 8/29/2020: I made an update to this post in the comments below, going over my theories post Farewell to Arms. My thanks to the 5 comments I got for pointing out some things I may have missed and some ideas about the lore post Farewell to Arms.
isnt the litch paradox? This does not disprove your theory, just tweaks it. I believe that Kaliber might be controlling paradox in someway, making him into the Litch we see.
Its safe to assume now that the Paradox is a biproduct of the gungeons time traveling garbage, If i remember correctly as I haven't played for awhile the Litch is The Gunslinger or whatever poncho man is named. I assume that the Paradox brings the Litch back to life into the Gunslinger as having the Gunslinger in the Gungeon is itself a paradox.
The Sixth Master Round is stated to be the one that puts the Gungeon at rest, and it was supposed to drop from the lich, but it was removed because that was redundant, as beating the lich ends the run. As the 5th round states, "The sixth round remains unfired." The 6th master round is the one fired to kill the Gungeon itself, which is only fired after the defeat of the lich, the one with the 6th master round. When it says in Revolvations 22:12 "the final Bullet will leave the chamber, and all will be reloaded." It most likely means the final Master Round is fired into the Gungeon, causing everything to start anew.
Exit the Gungeon came out and it may show that this theory is half correct as kaliber helps you exit and the lich may have tried to stop the player because in exit the gungeon the “Gun” which kills the past damaged the very fabric of reality and time itself destroying the gungeon forever
Update: This was written before Farewell to Arms was released, and the new evidence tying some stuff together has been shown since. This post was mainly just a collection of ideas I wanted to put out there, but some do seem to be implied, as pointed out by the few comments I've gotten. Here's a few (bullet)points to summarize what I at least understand now. -Now, we know that the gentleman (who is now finally in the game as the Gunslinger) IS, in fact, the Lich. This further supports the theory that the Gunslinger may have been taken over by Kaliber and turned into the Lich against his will. This is supported by how the Gunslinger's goal is to KILL the Lich - his future self - implying that the Gunslinger wants to stop/despises what he's become. My guess is that his experiments that gave rise to the many enemies in the Gungeon may have led Kaliber to either wish to use him for his expertise, or perhaps she felt threatened by him in some fashion. - Some clarification on what the Sixth Master Round is have been brought up. From what I understand it is the bullet that is phrophecised to be shot at and kill the Gungeon itself. This does bring up the question of why it was created. Assuming that the Gunslinger made them (as well as everything else in the Gungeon, except for most of the guns/items), it would imply that the Sixth Master Round was his contingency against the Gungeon itself for.... Some reason? I am still unsure what the Gungeon could become that would warrant such a failsafe, but assuming there was some need for it leads me to believe that the Gunslinger may have foresaw himself becoming the Lich/being taken over by Kaliber, hence the need for the Sixth Master Round in case he (as the Lich) and by extension the Gungeon got out of control. (Shoutouts to Ornstein's reply for the info about the Sixth Master round) - I believe The Paradox isn't controlled by Kaliber. It seems to be implied that the Paradox is simply a byproduct of the weakening of time-space due to the overuse of the Gun that Can Kill the Past. This is supported by how the Paradox is unlocked, seeing as we need to first absorb some sort of time-space anomaly that we find within the Gungeon. After we beat the game, my guess is that the use of the Gun that Can Kill the Past (whether it be used to shoot ourselves, kill our past, or shoot the Lich) in whatever ending we choose results in the anomalous material we had absorbed taking physical form and becoming a living Paradox (hence the name, if it wasn't obvious) because it takes the form of all possible gungeoneers that should have picked it up across any timeline. From there, I can't really explain why it decides to travel through the Gungeon. My guess is just that it's more of a representation of the player themselves, and thereby acts only because the player wishes to go through the Gungeon as them. - HOWEVER, once we kill the Lich as the Paradox it is implied that the presence of the massive time-space anomaly that the Paradox is and the firing of the Gun that Can Kill the Past is what pushes the Gungeon over the edge and results in the time-space continuum finally imploding in on itself, which in turn results in the past form of the Lich (who is present at the epicenter of this final breakdown seeing as it was the Paradox who shoots HIM when this happens) being forced into the unstable present. (Hence why we immediately start at the beginning as the Gunslinger as soon as we finish a run with the Paradox). This event also likely destabilizes the present form of the Lich, creating the Lich that is present in this timeline, and a paradoxical second Lich that is the future form of the Gunslinger that we play as. (Or in other words, the Gunslinger may have been thrown into a parallel timeline, resulting in the Lich from that timeline and the future form of the Gunslinger existing in the same space.) In the end, I don't think Kaliber has anything to do with the creation of the Paradox, the arrival of the Gunslinger, and the eventual collapse of the Gungeon itself. - It is also implied that the Gunslinger killing both the Lich and his Future Self (Glitched Lich) makes the instability of the Gungeon so immense that the Gungeon itself finally starts to collapse in-on-istelf, which then leads DIRECTLY into Exit the Gungeon.
My theory is that Yes, Kaliber and Kithuliber are the same entity, However, Kaliber is just an alias for Kithuliber, As Kithuliber plans to act as a false god to weaken the senses of the gundead, Eventually, When the chambers are right, Kithuliber will open a rift to the mine flayer dimension And bring along an new age where the twisted gods rule over, Just like Cthulhu in Call of Cthulhu.
something i'd like to add: you can unlock the yellow chamber either by killing 10 confirmed or by entering the giant eye room. this links the yellow chamber to the eye, and to the confirmed.
I wonder if Kaliber is related to the eye in the mirrors that give you chests, the prototype teleporter room, or in the yellow chamber at all. At least for the mirror, the gray color of the skin behind the eye seems to match the color of the tentacles from the yellow chamber and the Kaliber's grip synergy. The mirror eyeball is yellow while the yellow chamber eyeball is red though, so I'm unsure if they can be from the same entity, but it's worth thinking about considering Kali may be able to take on multiple forms (like the video said).
Thats actually a great point! Finding this comment near the bottom of the section is a disappointment because this actually sparked my intrest! In my opinion, you're probably right. I always wondered if they were insane, or doing some weird ritual. But them doing that in maybe trying to channel Kalibers power is a wonderful idea. If only i could ask one of the devs ;-;
I love how he mentions in another video 'In the Kaliber video I sounded like I was about to burst into tears.' My boi Nevernamed has become self-aware.
My idea as to how Kaliber could be introduced as a boss could be in the presence of the Gungeon along with all time being destroyed. This would be caused by an attack of the Hegemony of Man, whom were supposedly under a treaty to never attempt to claim the Gungeon again. This could be caused by the Marine secretly double-crossing his fellow Gungeoneers. (spoiler) Now that he's killed his past and is considered a hero, he feels obliged to continue his job and sends a message to his fellow Hegemony, detailing how the death of a Hegemony officer, the destruction of the HS Absolution and the continued reign of the robot empire was caused by such outlaws with the power of the Past killing Gun. Upon attacking, they end up delivering a deep blow that ends up shattering said Gun, resulting in a space-time continuum disruption. Now all the Gungeoneers along with a few of the NPC friend they made along their journeys have to figure out what's going on and how to reverse this madness while fighting against never ending waves of panicking Hegemony soldiers and dismayed Gundead. But in the end, instead of finding a direct answer they find Kaliber...
Ummm... I just predicted this last week as I was daydreaming like an invasion of hegemony soldiers along with marine seeing Kaliber destroy dimensions. Okay quarantine has really twisted my mind :/
"...The final bullet will leave the chamber and all will be reloaded..." what if that bullet is the character bullet? Isn't he like a hero to the gundead or something?
I think this is about master round and the lich. You can only have the five first master rounds, because you can't have the lich's master round. Why? "According to the myth, the sixth remains unfired." - fifth chamber Master round's ammonomicon entry . Plus, according to the first master round's entry, master rounds are linked to The Gun (which shot the gungeon) "Apocryphal texts recovered from cultists of the Order indicate that the Gun and the Bullet are linked somehow.", which would mean there is still a round in it, before it need to be reloaded.
Do you have a video on the lich or is it coming I really want to know more about him and the gunslinger gungeoneer has me super hyped since I believe it's him
Romy _ I hope so I really love gungeon lore and it seems like the upcoming updates are lore heavy dlc expansions for the more dedicated players who are willing to pay for the extra content
I believe that Kthuliber, just like High Priest, might be an avatar of Kaliber. If an avatar of the gungeon goddes herself is placed just before the High Dragun, it must mean that Kaliber in that avatar isnt as powerfull as she could be, since The High Priest would be guarding the gun if she was. But why have multiple avatars and use weaker ones? Maybe she lost to The Lich once? Maybe she lost her most powerful avatar, and since was scared she would meet an as powerfull enemy as the Gungeon Master itself? Im stretching this out but, Maybe?
I think it's simply a matter of using some of her power to construct a mortal form would limit her. if she were to use her full power without worrying about shapeshifting, she would probably be much scarier
It could be the same case as DC's Darkseid. It could be that Kaliber has to use avatars (i.e. High Priest/Eye Mirror) to influence the Gungeon in any way without causing serious damage, and imbues Bullet Kin through said avatars.
Maybe we could get a Binding Of Isaac Delirium-esqe boss fight / floor. Where everything cycles through all the bosses or pasts from the entire game as it spastically tries to kill you in every way possible, but maybe ending with a Kaliburs real form as the final one. I would be pretty ok with that to be honest. Good video tho, didn’t hear any audio errors.
I can't pinpoint what npc/ammonomicon entries I've read, but I believe that after a gungeoneer has successfully changed their past, they have trapped themselves in the gungeon forever, continually looping through it forever. I thought that maybe the lich is the one keeping you cursed, and killing him would free you and everyone else that has used the gun that can kill the past, but now I think maybe kaliber has everyone trapped? I'm absolutely boggled, and eager to get more breadcrumbs of lore as the DLCs roll out.
This is kinda late yo the video, but after you mentioned my comment in that video my video on unused characters gained.... 530 views.... which is over the first amount you tube checks to see if your getting views from bots. Not really an accomplishment compared to your awesome channel, which appears to have gained 1000 subs within a month? Still. Just kinda thanking you and reminding you to keep up the great work. Ur mic is working awesome btw
Glad I could help out, though I think the views may have come less from me, and more from an increased interest in Gungeon cut content thanks to my stuff. So maybe I helped indirectly, but any views you get you have completely deserved.
i have a theory about Kaliber: I personally think we will get another major update like AG&D, and it will be around kaliber. We would get another secret floor like the rescourceful rat, and that the kaliber would be like an INSANE boss, like insane dificulty. Because Lich was once that one gungeoneer that had somekind of deal with kaliber and when he died he became lich. I think when you manage to kill Kaliber, „Lich“ would return to his human form and he would be a playable character. i think that because in the etgmod you can spawn him in and he looks pretty much finished exept his items. i really hope ETG gets more updates because i honestly love this game and it never bores me. and i hope you keep doing these amazing info videos!
I'm more in the route of a secret floor for the 4th, because we already have the rat on floor 3. Possibly one where you have to obtain something from the Abbey of the True Gun to gain access.
The more and more you look at this game, the more it is like dark souls. Seriously beyond just a few references and mechanics, even the lore is hidden in a similar fashion.
Just a few things to note, a theory could be made out of these, but i'm not too heavy on gungeon lore. -The Yellow Chamber could be in reference to the yellow sigil of the Cthulhu mythos. -the six tentacles of the yellow chamber have been confirmed by the video to be kaliber's. -The grail of this same character was lost in dimension of Cthulhu-like monsters. -squids are animals with six tentacles, which could be interpreted as arms.
isn't Kthuliber a reference from Cthulhu ? It is a weapon than is it self a tentacle, Cthulhu has tentacles as well, and it's likely named like that to connect the Kali (a goddess) with Cthulhu (a godd), Kthuliber has the letter 'K' for the name 'Kali' the 'thul' wich is from Cthulhu's name and 'liber' a reference from the Gungeon it self, remember we talk about guns and gods here, Gungeon Lore just mixs up different religions with guns
If this is true about Kaliber taking many forms like a Kathullu type monster. If you had a run and came across a mirror room which grants you a free chest for 3 curse. when you open the chest her eye appears in here beast form glancing at you for a second and breaking the mirror giving you the three curse.
Any lore coming on the Great Bullet? Did the gungeon or gundead exist before the bullet struck, or did the Bullet mutate them all to be gun/bullet-themed? the Hegemony of Man tried once to capture the fort but were unsuccessful. Did they fire the bullet?
I think Kaliber is just one of a pantheon, but am too lazy to find any credible evidence to support this theory. I believe this because Yung Venuz has a shrine. He is a character in an older game called Gun Godz, and is an unlockable in Nuclear Throne. There isn't a Gun Godz wiki that I can skimp through, but the Nuclear Throne wiki confirms that he is indeed a god. Is the presence of a shrine to him a confirmation that he exists in the gungeon universe, and by extension, confirmation that he is part of a pantheon of gun gods? Or is his shrine just a simple nod to previous games by the devs and nothing else? It would honestly blow my mind if there was some kind of boss fight or any other interaction with him in the gungeon. Kinda hoping that they give him a rare chance to replace the Lord of the Jammed when you reach 10 curse, and he kicks your ass hard and steals your money drops. (because he likes money)
Kameron A i know! so... you know that to fight the old king you have to do 2 secrets? (aka water is key and skill to the shield) well they could add another one in his floor but it has to be hard
Ok this is my theory so when the lich becomes a playable character if he does become one maybe his past is seeing kaliber herself and you have to defeat her before she turns you to the lich boss
I would like to see more videos talking about the lore of the bosses and the enemies, this one was amazing Also at the start of the video your voice could be heard but the music was too low if you made it a bit more that would add more ambience Also also how are you today?
I'm quite well, thank you. I'm working on more Lore videos of varying sizes, as well as Cut Content stuff. Audio is a bit of a nightmare to work with, but I'll do my best.
I have a crazy theory The gunslinger is the Lich Here my reasoning Look at the gunslingers weapon compared to the Lichs they look similar right? Also it looks like the Lichs attire is a lager version of the gunslinger’s That’s what I have right now you can try to prove my reasoning or disprove it I wouldn’t mind hearing others opinions
I'm not really sure. I'm trying to find an answer myself. Trying to change into alt skins used to work, now it just forces you to have to close and re-open the game. I'll let you know if I get it to work.
A very interesting video! Glad to see more of you! Just one thing, I think that you voicing the transmission text is a bit unnecessary. I think some silence between each fact would do the video well. Looking forward to your future content! ^^
Thanks for the feedback. Honestly, those transitions are a nightmare to edit, particularly because of the audio, so thank you also for an excuse to not have to put myself through that hell :)
This is pretty unrelated but if you look at the gunslinger's idle animation, his poncho blinks for some reason. I just found this interesting and wanted to share with you. any thoughts?
Late one My Guess is lich is bullet heaven lord Kalliber is bullet heaven lord So lich beat her letting her avatars go and absorbed her soul in final chamber so he will try not to let her escape and he uses all he’s left over power to destroy that chamber Edit one sorry probably copied I dunno
For a last update, I feel like they should make Kaliber the ULTIMATE final boss, where she teleports you to her own chamber, the 7th chamber, only if you defeat the Lich without taking any damage. Of course, to be more fair, I feel like it'd be WAY cooler if they made it so you can only fight her with your starting sidearm, so you can't just cheese the fight with OP weapons.
The chambers are meant to be loosely based off of the design of a gun (specifically the revolver,) so 7 main chambers wouldn't make much sense. Aside from that, neat idea
I did my best to louden this video like I have the other two, but for some reason Audacity wasn't making it very simple. I hope the video's turned out well.
This one took me quite a while to make presentable. Audio really hates playing by the rules.
This is also the first video I've written a script for. I hope I didn't sound too watch-mojoey.
you know how the king has 1 eye well with the eyepatch its descript must be reffiering to the old king cuz he only has 1 eye
Hey nevernamed, i gave this question to you earlier, but as i can see, we are the only ones who do gungeon lore, wanna do a colab?
Did you normalize your audio properly?
Had you ever noticed there's 6 playable characters AS WELL
Can you put subtitles? Easier to read subs than understanding you when you're not english ^^ like you can do both things if that doesn't take too much time
it should also be noted with the eyepatch that the sacrifice of depth perception for extra damage can be seen with the old king, who is missing an eye and capable of dealing more damage while being less accurate.
I dislike this woman,she keeps sending unkillable reapers after me
Ha my life. I feel ya dude
it be like that sometimes
drop the casey
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I'd drop all of my guns and items before my Casey.
so... the gundead's religion usually rejects cursed objects like melee weapons, but in the abbey we see a lot of unholy things like jammed enemies, kaliber is also associeted with a lot of evil objects and eaven holds a sicle. this makes her a lot more badass, she doesn't feel like something the gundead could have made up add to their culture, she seems to have her own objectives that go past the gungeons rules. maybe most of the gundead are innocent and follow simple religious rules, but in the abbey they have knoladge of the power of curse. what if the bullet kin from the abbey spread the ideologies that some concepts are profane to the upper chambers so that they could keep all the knoladge and power for them selves?.
sorry if i make some mistakes, english is not my mother lenguage.
"When the Gun is drawn to the heart of the pacifist, and when the chambers are empty and the shells are spent, the Last of the Jammed will ascend to seal The Breach forever..."
ooohhh thats why casey is cursed
All curse comes from some bones in the hollow the abbey gundead were likely jammed by the old king considering he has them without the normal red and black look
yet Blasphemy doesn't give curse, despite being a melee
"...The final bullet will leave the chamber and all will be reloaded..."
I think this is about master round and the lich. You can only have the five first master rounds, because you can't have the lich's master round. Why? "According to the myth, the sixth remains unfired." - fifth chamber Master round's ammonomicon entry . Plus, according to the first master round's entry, master rounds are linked to The Gun (which shot the gungeon) "Apocryphal texts recovered from cultists of the Order indicate that the Gun and the Bullet are linked somehow.", which would mean there is still a round in it, before it need to be reloaded.
Might also be worth noting that there are only four main Gungeoneers in the game right now. Lamey will be the fifth and Gunslinger will be the *sixth*.
@@LittleWasp inb4 the lich kills his own past before it happens.
Fucking plot explosion.
This is Amergin yo, what happens if they add the lich as a dlc character without telling anyone, and then you get his story after you beat the dragun
This is probably the most jarring and eye opening thing I've ever read in relation to gungeon lore. This makes TOO much sense
Let’s not forget that there is a cut sixth master round which has the Ammonomicon entry:”This impossible artifact indicates mastery of the final chamber. A holy shell. Simply looking upon it bestows a great peace upon your soul. The Gungeon is at rest.
Kaliber is a high tier waifu. Very thicc
Fucking weebs.
@@camillecirrus3977 As we all know ETG is an Japanese vida game that TOUHOU RIPPED OFF. HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT MY ANIMU GAME
@@camillecirrus3977 Take a joke you brick.
Weebs need to be fucking eradicated from this universe.
They ruin literally fucking everything they get close to.
@@camillecirrus3977 that's just humanity in a nutshell
thanks for the scp reading
*wait a second*
The Litch seems to be tied into Kaliber for some reason, but I don't think he's as bad as we think.
Like, during the events if bullet hell, and even when he pulls you into it once you have all 5 master rounds, it seems to imply that he's trying to stop you from using the Gun. He may know something we don't, and based on the game files that have been uncovered, it stands to show that he used to be a Gungeoneer himself, namley, the "Gentleman". The both do have the exact same clothing after all, and share similar attributes. Maybe The Gentleman found out the secret of The Gun, or maybe he was the one who shot the gun in the first place, and now wishes to stop anyone from using it? That would explain why he's been told to hold the Sixth chamber. When you kill him after his 3rd phase, he looks terrified. Almost as if he isn't ready to die yet.
Plus, all of this does draw parallel to that one German Opera, of which I've forgotten it's name, where a man was bestowed by Satan A Gun and 6 Bullets for it. 5 of those bullets, when fired, would be sure to kill their target, but the last bullet, when fired, killed whomever fired it, and sent their soul to Satan.
Maybe Kaliber did a same thing with the master rounds, and the Sixth one The Lich has is the one that'll bring about the end of everything or summon Kaliber?
Something seems to imply that the Sixth Chamber isn't meant to be fired, and that The Gun or the Lich may be the only thing that can stop Kaliber once and for all.
Maybe by using the Gun, we've been feeding souls to Kaliber through the pasts we've changed? Or maybe the use of the Gun keeps the Gungeon alive, and the Lich is trying to stop you to end the Gungeon once and for all?
With the interdimentional nature of the Gungeon, maybe the Gungeon itself is Kaliber, and the reason why it was shot was to Kill Kaliber, and once the Gun Is "Reloaded", Kaliber will come to life?
Edit 8/29/2020: I made an update to this post in the comments below, going over my theories post Farewell to Arms. My thanks to the 5 comments I got for pointing out some things I may have missed and some ideas about the lore post Farewell to Arms.
isnt the litch paradox? This does not disprove your theory, just tweaks it. I believe that Kaliber might be controlling paradox in someway, making him into the Litch we see.
Its safe to assume now that the Paradox is a biproduct of the gungeons time traveling garbage, If i remember correctly as I haven't played for awhile the Litch is The Gunslinger or whatever poncho man is named. I assume that the Paradox brings the Litch back to life into the Gunslinger as having the Gunslinger in the Gungeon is itself a paradox.
The Sixth Master Round is stated to be the one that puts the Gungeon at rest, and it was supposed to drop from the lich, but it was removed because that was redundant, as beating the lich ends the run. As the 5th round states, "The sixth round remains unfired." The 6th master round is the one fired to kill the Gungeon itself, which is only fired after the defeat of the lich, the one with the 6th master round. When it says in Revolvations 22:12 "the final Bullet will leave the chamber, and all will be reloaded." It most likely means the final Master Round is fired into the Gungeon, causing everything to start anew.
Exit the Gungeon came out and it may show that this theory is half correct as kaliber helps you exit and the lich may have tried to stop the player because in exit the gungeon the “Gun” which kills the past damaged the very fabric of reality and time itself destroying the gungeon forever
Update: This was written before Farewell to Arms was released, and the new evidence tying some stuff together has been shown since. This post was mainly just a collection of ideas I wanted to put out there, but some do seem to be implied, as pointed out by the few comments I've gotten. Here's a few (bullet)points to summarize what I at least understand now.
-Now, we know that the gentleman (who is now finally in the game as the Gunslinger) IS, in fact, the Lich. This further supports the theory that the Gunslinger may have been taken over by Kaliber and turned into the Lich against his will. This is supported by how the Gunslinger's goal is to KILL the Lich - his future self - implying that the Gunslinger wants to stop/despises what he's become. My guess is that his experiments that gave rise to the many enemies in the Gungeon may have led Kaliber to either wish to use him for his expertise, or perhaps she felt threatened by him in some fashion.
- Some clarification on what the Sixth Master Round is have been brought up. From what I understand it is the bullet that is phrophecised to be shot at and kill the Gungeon itself. This does bring up the question of why it was created. Assuming that the Gunslinger made them (as well as everything else in the Gungeon, except for most of the guns/items), it would imply that the Sixth Master Round was his contingency against the Gungeon itself for.... Some reason? I am still unsure what the Gungeon could become that would warrant such a failsafe, but assuming there was some need for it leads me to believe that the Gunslinger may have foresaw himself becoming the Lich/being taken over by Kaliber, hence the need for the Sixth Master Round in case he (as the Lich) and by extension the Gungeon got out of control.
(Shoutouts to Ornstein's reply for the info about the Sixth Master round)
- I believe The Paradox isn't controlled by Kaliber. It seems to be implied that the Paradox is simply a byproduct of the weakening of time-space due to the overuse of the Gun that Can Kill the Past. This is supported by how the Paradox is unlocked, seeing as we need to first absorb some sort of time-space anomaly that we find within the Gungeon. After we beat the game, my guess is that the use of the Gun that Can Kill the Past (whether it be used to shoot ourselves, kill our past, or shoot the Lich) in whatever ending we choose results in the anomalous material we had absorbed taking physical form and becoming a living Paradox (hence the name, if it wasn't obvious) because it takes the form of all possible gungeoneers that should have picked it up across any timeline. From there, I can't really explain why it decides to travel through the Gungeon. My guess is just that it's more of a representation of the player themselves, and thereby acts only because the player wishes to go through the Gungeon as them.
- HOWEVER, once we kill the Lich as the Paradox it is implied that the presence of the massive time-space anomaly that the Paradox is and the firing of the Gun that Can Kill the Past is what pushes the Gungeon over the edge and results in the time-space continuum finally imploding in on itself, which in turn results in the past form of the Lich (who is present at the epicenter of this final breakdown seeing as it was the Paradox who shoots HIM when this happens) being forced into the unstable present. (Hence why we immediately start at the beginning as the Gunslinger as soon as we finish a run with the Paradox). This event also likely destabilizes the present form of the Lich, creating the Lich that is present in this timeline, and a paradoxical second Lich that is the future form of the Gunslinger that we play as. (Or in other words, the Gunslinger may have been thrown into a parallel timeline, resulting in the Lich from that timeline and the future form of the Gunslinger existing in the same space.) In the end, I don't think Kaliber has anything to do with the creation of the Paradox, the arrival of the Gunslinger, and the eventual collapse of the Gungeon itself.
- It is also implied that the Gunslinger killing both the Lich and his Future Self (Glitched Lich) makes the instability of the Gungeon so immense that the Gungeon itself finally starts to collapse in-on-istelf, which then leads DIRECTLY into Exit the Gungeon.
My theory is that Yes, Kaliber and Kithuliber are the same entity, However, Kaliber is just an alias for Kithuliber, As Kithuliber plans to act as a false god to weaken the senses of the gundead, Eventually, When the chambers are right, Kithuliber will open a rift to the mine flayer dimension And bring along an new age where the twisted gods rule over, Just like Cthulhu in Call of Cthulhu.
Like Hastur and the king in yellow
something i'd like to add:
you can unlock the yellow chamber either by killing 10 confirmed or by entering the giant eye room.
this links the yellow chamber to the eye, and to the confirmed.
Finally somebody is doing gungeon lore
Kaliber eats spaghetti bolognase
Ikr
Well that just my favorite food so am I kaliber?
@@helloeveryone9251 you are her avatar in the mortal realm
I wonder if Kaliber is related to the eye in the mirrors that give you chests, the prototype teleporter room, or in the yellow chamber at all. At least for the mirror, the gray color of the skin behind the eye seems to match the color of the tentacles from the yellow chamber and the Kaliber's grip synergy. The mirror eyeball is yellow while the yellow chamber eyeball is red though, so I'm unsure if they can be from the same entity, but it's worth thinking about considering Kali may be able to take on multiple forms (like the video said).
just noticed that kaliber's statues have their tongue out, is that why the human gun cultists are always with their tongues out?
Thats actually a great point! Finding this comment near the bottom of the section is a disappointment because this actually sparked my intrest! In my opinion, you're probably right. I always wondered if they were insane, or doing some weird ritual. But them doing that in maybe trying to channel Kalibers power is a wonderful idea. If only i could ask one of the devs ;-;
I love how he mentions in another video 'In the Kaliber video I sounded like I was about to burst into tears.'
My boi Nevernamed has become self-aware.
My idea as to how Kaliber could be introduced as a boss could be in the presence of the Gungeon along with all time being destroyed. This would be caused by an attack of the Hegemony of Man, whom were supposedly under a treaty to never attempt to claim the Gungeon again. This could be caused by the Marine secretly double-crossing his fellow Gungeoneers. (spoiler) Now that he's killed his past and is considered a hero, he feels obliged to continue his job and sends a message to his fellow Hegemony, detailing how the death of a Hegemony officer, the destruction of the HS Absolution and the continued reign of the robot empire was caused by such outlaws with the power of the Past killing Gun.
Upon attacking, they end up delivering a deep blow that ends up shattering said Gun, resulting in a space-time continuum disruption. Now all the Gungeoneers along with a few of the NPC friend they made along their journeys have to figure out what's going on and how to reverse this madness while fighting against never ending waves of panicking Hegemony soldiers and dismayed Gundead.
But in the end, instead of finding a direct answer they find Kaliber...
that will be an awesome expansion
No, that'd be an awesome *game!* I mean come on! That sounds like a wicked sequel!
I kinda feel like giving a god or goddess any true form tends to be a bit underwhelming. But eh.
Ummm... I just predicted this last week as I was daydreaming like an invasion of hegemony soldiers along with marine seeing Kaliber destroy dimensions. Okay quarantine has really twisted my mind :/
The fact that this game's version of the grim reaperis holding a giant scythe-shotgun is just too good to pass
hope your channel grows lad.
"...The final bullet will leave the chamber and all will be reloaded..." what if that bullet is the character bullet?
Isn't he like a hero to the gundead or something?
I think this is about master round and the lich. You can only have the five first master rounds, because you can't have the lich's master round. Why? "According to the myth, the sixth remains unfired." - fifth chamber Master round's ammonomicon entry . Plus, according to the first master round's entry, master rounds are linked to The Gun (which shot the gungeon) "Apocryphal texts recovered from cultists of the Order indicate that the Gun and the Bullet are linked somehow.", which would mean there is still a round in it, before it need to be reloaded.
Loved it bra. Also, I think that Lich is the gungeoneer that mastered the gungeon, but Kaliber made him stay in that form because she was envious.
@Arrow Head yeah, you're right.
No he is considered a traitor to the kin. Read the blasphemy description. Him using it makes him a heretic.
Accelerator I think it’s referring to the sword because it killed the bullets father which possibly refers to the name blasphemy
Do you have a video on the lich or is it coming I really want to know more about him and the gunslinger gungeoneer has me super hyped since I believe it's him
It's one of the ones I have planned.
i feel like his past would have something to do with kaliber
Romy _ I hope so I really love gungeon lore and it seems like the upcoming updates are lore heavy dlc expansions for the more dedicated players who are willing to pay for the extra content
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I believe that Kthuliber, just like High Priest, might be an avatar of Kaliber. If an avatar of the gungeon goddes herself is placed just before the High Dragun, it must mean that Kaliber in that avatar isnt as powerfull as she could be, since The High Priest would be guarding the gun if she was. But why have multiple avatars and use weaker ones? Maybe she lost to The Lich once? Maybe she lost her most powerful avatar, and since was scared she would meet an as powerfull enemy as the Gungeon Master itself? Im stretching this out but, Maybe?
I think it's simply a matter of using some of her power to construct a mortal form would limit her. if she were to use her full power without worrying about shapeshifting, she would probably be much scarier
It could be the same case as DC's Darkseid. It could be that Kaliber has to use avatars (i.e. High Priest/Eye Mirror) to influence the Gungeon in any way without causing serious damage, and imbues Bullet Kin through said avatars.
Gungeon lore is like doom 2016 lore you miss it unless you look for it
Maybe we could get a Binding Of Isaac Delirium-esqe boss fight / floor. Where everything cycles through all the bosses or pasts from the entire game as it spastically tries to kill you in every way possible, but maybe ending with a Kaliburs real form as the final one. I would be pretty ok with that to be honest. Good video tho, didn’t hear any audio errors.
I can't pinpoint what npc/ammonomicon entries I've read, but I believe that after a gungeoneer has successfully changed their past, they have trapped themselves in the gungeon forever, continually looping through it forever.
I thought that maybe the lich is the one keeping you cursed, and killing him would free you and everyone else that has used the gun that can kill the past, but now I think maybe kaliber has everyone trapped?
I'm absolutely boggled, and eager to get more breadcrumbs of lore as the DLCs roll out.
I love gungeon lore, it's always so interesting and mysterious
This is kinda late yo the video, but after you mentioned my comment in that video my video on unused characters gained.... 530 views.... which is over the first amount you tube checks to see if your getting views from bots. Not really an accomplishment compared to your awesome channel, which appears to have gained 1000 subs within a month? Still. Just kinda thanking you and reminding you to keep up the great work. Ur mic is working awesome btw
Glad I could help out, though I think the views may have come less from me, and more from an increased interest in Gungeon cut content thanks to my stuff.
So maybe I helped indirectly, but any views you get you have completely deserved.
Random thing. The eye in the mirror looks like the old kings eye.
Look, if there was a boss fight against Kaliber, it'd take place in Bullet Heaven, I mean, bullet hell exists.
Great video! Very informative, especially for such a enigmatic character.
Nicely done with the explanation and research. Now im looking forward to seeing other gungeon lore vids from you. Good luck
This is my first time learning the lore your videos are really good. For how much I bought this game for I feel like I should give more
Awesome video! You are 100% underrated in my opinion.
Topic I actually needed more info about, glad to know these things in case it comes up again
i hope if we ever get a *Proper* sequel that it'll have Kaliber as an actual secret boss and a big challange.
i have a theory about Kaliber: I personally think we will get another major update like AG&D, and it will be around kaliber. We would get another secret floor like the rescourceful rat, and that the kaliber would be like an INSANE boss, like insane dificulty. Because Lich was once that one gungeoneer that had somekind of deal with kaliber and when he died he became lich. I think when you manage to kill Kaliber, „Lich“ would return to his human form and he would be a playable character. i think that because in the etgmod you can spawn him in and he looks pretty much finished exept his items. i really hope ETG gets more updates because i honestly love this game and it never bores me. and i hope you keep doing these amazing info videos!
Holy grail=third secret floor?
I'm more in the route of a secret floor for the 4th, because we already have the rat on floor 3. Possibly one where you have to obtain something from the Abbey of the True Gun to gain access.
@@lawrencefetterolf5905 You would probably get the holy grail from the abbey of the true gun
The more and more you look at this game, the more it is like dark souls. Seriously beyond just a few references and mechanics, even the lore is hidden in a similar fashion.
Kaliber. An absolute unit.
Just a few things to note, a theory could be made out of these, but i'm not too heavy on gungeon lore.
-The Yellow Chamber could be in reference to the yellow sigil of the Cthulhu mythos.
-the six tentacles of the yellow chamber have been confirmed by the video to be kaliber's.
-The grail of this same character was lost in dimension of Cthulhu-like monsters.
-squids are animals with six tentacles, which could be interpreted as arms.
What a great video. Thanks for the great content, Nevernamed
isn't Kthuliber a reference from Cthulhu ? It is a weapon than is it self a tentacle, Cthulhu has tentacles as well, and it's likely named like that to connect the Kali (a goddess) with Cthulhu (a godd), Kthuliber has the letter 'K' for the name 'Kali' the 'thul' wich is from Cthulhu's name and 'liber' a reference from the Gungeon it self, remember we talk about guns and gods here, Gungeon Lore just mixs up different religions with guns
Kailiber bad i worship the unfineshed gun
Question, why the BULLETHELL does the final Killpillar have a SWORD?!
Cool video man, great work!
Very informative, very good, very spooky.
If I dont see kaliber in any upcoming exit the gungeon updates im gonna be disappointed
Hey, could you do an episode about Mine Flayer's dimension? That would be great!
It's something I've had on my list, and there's definitely enough to do a small video on.
Nevernamed :)
I personally think that she isn’t a creator deity but a deity of guns
Betrayor
So ceated bosses: The Kill Pillows
These videos are interesting! Great job
Maybe Lich is the gungeoneer that survived and mastered the gungeon, as he appears in the main menu looking like a gungeoneer.
thats confirmed
Well now we know right
If this is true about Kaliber taking many forms like a Kathullu type monster. If you had a run and came across a mirror room which grants you a free chest for 3 curse. when you open the chest her eye appears in here beast form glancing at you for a second and breaking the mirror giving you the three curse.
Any lore coming on the Great Bullet? Did the gungeon or gundead exist before the bullet struck, or did the Bullet mutate them all to be gun/bullet-themed? the Hegemony of Man tried once to capture the fort but were unsuccessful. Did they fire the bullet?
Damn I was going to bed but nvm this is important
I really hope they do something with kaliber in the next expansion
i think the 7th arm of Kaliber is the fact she is the gun arms
Inb4 Yung Venus is hitched with Kaliber.
I think Kaliber is just one of a pantheon, but am too lazy to find any credible evidence to support this theory.
I believe this because Yung Venuz has a shrine.
He is a character in an older game called Gun Godz, and is an unlockable in Nuclear Throne.
There isn't a Gun Godz wiki that I can skimp through, but the Nuclear Throne wiki confirms that he is indeed a god.
Is the presence of a shrine to him a confirmation that he exists in the gungeon universe, and by extension, confirmation that he is part of a pantheon of gun gods?
Or is his shrine just a simple nod to previous games by the devs and nothing else?
It would honestly blow my mind if there was some kind of boss fight or any other interaction with him in the gungeon.
Kinda hoping that they give him a rare chance to replace the Lord of the Jammed when you reach 10 curse, and he kicks your ass hard and steals your money drops. (because he likes money)
Venuz is a god yes, but his shrine is more of a reference than anything.
If kaliber was a boss and you kill it the gungeon will fall to hell
This sounds like an scp reading
this is a pretty good video tho your voice is very quiet
I was worried about that.
I tried to make the audio louder, but Audacity wasn't having it.
Kameron A i know! so... you know that to fight the old king you have to do 2 secrets? (aka water is key and skill to the shield) well they could add another one in his floor but it has to be hard
who is Kaliber's ex? Excalibur.
Oh, hey it's vaati vidya.
Kaliber is scare of my face, thats why she dies first on kill pillars
Theory
She split her power into four for the four statues and when you destroy the other 3 the power combines
3:37 demigod is a greek term meening half human half god that is the textbook defenition of it
please do a video on a lich I love this gungeon lore series
Are they ever making another update or game?
There’s a statue of Y.T from nuclear throne and he’s also a gun god soooo
Cool video! You deserve more subs!
Ok this is my theory so when the lich becomes a playable character if he does become one maybe his past is seeing kaliber herself and you have to defeat her before she turns you to the lich boss
About the Lich being a playable character...
I would like to see more videos talking about the lore of the bosses and the enemies, this one was amazing
Also at the start of the video your voice could be heard but the music was too low if you made it a bit more that would add more ambience
Also also how are you today?
I'm quite well, thank you.
I'm working on more Lore videos of varying sizes, as well as Cut Content stuff.
Audio is a bit of a nightmare to work with, but I'll do my best.
@@Nevernamed yeah i know how much audio can be a problem you don't have to rush anything
And thanks for replying you make great videos
I have a crazy theory
The gunslinger is the Lich
Here my reasoning
Look at the gunslingers weapon compared to the Lichs they look similar right? Also it looks like the Lichs attire is a lager version of the gunslinger’s
That’s what I have right now you can try to prove my reasoning or disprove it I wouldn’t mind hearing others opinions
The gunslinger's past is just Bullet Hell.
Goodness.
All hail The Great Kaliber
Hello! I really love your videos. Could you tell me how to change the skin of the character if it is possible
I'm not really sure. I'm trying to find an answer myself.
Trying to change into alt skins used to work, now it just forces you to have to close and re-open the game.
I'll let you know if I get it to work.
so, i am waiting. I know, u can! c:
im pretty sure you have to kill their pasts first
What if kaliber was the one whom originally shot the great bullet?!?!?!?
what if Kaliber is The Great Bullet or at least its spirit?
What if Kaliber is The Great Bullet?
What synergy or gun or item causes kthulbers tenticals to appear
Yellow chamber
What if it is not an eye, but a gun shot?🤔
A very interesting video! Glad to see more of you!
Just one thing, I think that you voicing the transmission text is a bit unnecessary. I think some silence between each fact would do the video well.
Looking forward to your future content! ^^
Thanks for the feedback.
Honestly, those transitions are a nightmare to edit, particularly because of the audio, so thank you also for an excuse to not have to put myself through that hell :)
@@Nevernamed You're welcome! ^^
Fancy seeing you here :)
@@minimmats Could say the same thing about you chap! Being the gungeon addict that I am, i was immedatily drawn to this channel!
Wait think about the last phase of the dragon and the synergy wouldn’t it make sense if she was possessing it in the last phase
Just to add extra detail remember the thing with the baby dragon what if it’s a kind of sacrifice that makes kaliber stronger
Still waiting for a boss fight with her
This is pretty unrelated but if you look at the gunslinger's idle animation, his poncho blinks for some reason. I just found this interesting and wanted to share with you. any thoughts?
Maybe it's a Mimic.
probably.
The good book
is this like asmr?
But that is just a theory A GAME THEORY
I didn't take the dialogue from the drunkard seriously
Late one
My Guess is lich is bullet heaven lord
Kalliber is bullet heaven lord
So lich beat her letting her avatars go and absorbed her soul in final chamber so he will try not to let her escape and he uses all he’s left over power to destroy that chamber
Edit one sorry probably copied I dunno
For a last update, I feel like they should make Kaliber the ULTIMATE final boss, where she teleports you to her own chamber, the 7th chamber, only if you defeat the Lich without taking any damage. Of course, to be more fair, I feel like it'd be WAY cooler if they made it so you can only fight her with your starting sidearm, so you can't just cheese the fight with OP weapons.
The chambers are meant to be loosely based off of the design of a gun (specifically the revolver,) so 7 main chambers wouldn't make much sense. Aside from that, neat idea
If you’re nervernamed why are name nevernamed🤔
You give me the vibe of Mythology & Fiction Explained, do you also watch their channel?
Never heard of them.
My mistake. What's about "The Exploring Series"? I often confused between the two.
I don't know what either of those are, I'm afraid.
I assume Revolvations 22:12 means that in the future the gun that can kill the past is used and the entire gungeon goes back in time,
This seems extremely fking accurate with the new gunslinger’s past in afta update
Yeah gungeon ver.vaatividya
kaliber bossfight?!?!?
Cool and good as your other videos
All hail.
More
And plz rise the volume
if you can
sword magnum
skull cup of blood
klobbe machine pistol
I prefer the videos without voice. I don't want to offend, but only express my opinion.