Love the freeze frame. I’ve thought for a while that you should incorporate those, as well as rewinds and re-watches. Like do the voiceover with original video, point out some behavior that we normal people need to watch for, then rewind and show us again, maybe even slow motion or zoomed in. Keep up the great work and thanks for all you show.
To this dog, it is fun. He loves it. I have an ex-fighting dog now. He loves it. His owners made him love doing it. He always was rewarded. Now I have to break all that. Takes lots of time.
The chow foundation mixed with the Labrador’s lack of acknowledgment with corrections makes for a tough cookie. Labs don’t really care for corrections, they literally write them off and usually go back to playing. The Chow in him is taking that “go back to playing” to a different level. It’s interesting but definitely makes for a tough cookie for a dog
as soon as you first mentioned the black tongue... CHOW! i was a dog groomer for ten years. the first dog that ever got aggressive with me was a chow in my first two weeks of grooming because no one else wanted to deal with him because he was aggressive for no reason so they pawned him off on the newbie. i've met several chows since, and one of my top five favourite dogs that i groomed regularly in that decade was a full chow... but man, chows still make me leary. i trusted the wolf hybrid we knew was a hybrid but couldn't prove it because his vet papers said "german shepherd mix" more than almost any chow.
Chow mixes are some of the hardest breeds to train. They are a very old breed and they have some specific things they don't like. It takes extra time to get them used to the leash. I had a 50/50 chow and he hated being held, hated leashes, hated any restraint whatsoever. However, he like the ball so we were able to redirect his behavior using a ball. It didn't correct the behavior, it just made it manageable. Luckily he was not dog aggressive and got along with cats too, so it was mostly just human social stuff he had to overcome and as long as there was a ball, he was happy.
Wow what a tough mix Chow/Lab. Fascinating body language from your point of view. Lip licks,tail wag, eye to eye and the best his energy excelled by the leash correction and non caring. BUT your knee flips and the quick pop to loosen that energy from the leash was an amazing piece of information! Plus your touch’s to the head to clam. Thank you
Dang. Did someone steal my dog and take him for a session with you 🤔? He's a neutered half lab-mix half chow. It's almost like he's tryina make up for his lost balls. So macho for no reason. Thanks for uploading this!
Not sure if it's true but I've heard that neutered male dogs become insecure around un-neutered dogs and they become aggressive. Just what I heard doesn't make it true
@@AHHHHHH107 I've heard this too. And it seems to be a pattern with my dog. Not sure if it's because he's neutered or just has a weak temperament. Probably the latter but I don't know for sure either 🤷
Yeah, I'd have done the same thing you did. He seemed good with Prince behind the fence, and even when he came out. The dog's body was relaxed for the most part, although his hackles did come up a couple of times. Loved the freeze-frame.
That with the constant lip licking and some stiffness in the body (neck and head held high). The part that made me nervous was how much lip licking he was doing from the start with Prince
The warning signs were there the whole time, at least from what I saw! It’s just hard to know in what direction it will continue , because as you said, it can go both ways.
yeah there wasnt a single point where the dog was actually being friendly. at the beginning he was being tolerant and feeling the situation out, but was still posturing the whole time. it was only a matter of time before he finally decided to become aggressive.
His mouth was for the most part tensely closed even when he panted he was either whining or it was a tense mouth even with the mouth open there was no relaxed happy panting.
My almost 2 year old Siberian Husky does not like young male puppies. Typically they are intact so I think that is why but I don’t know for sure. I’m watching tons of your videos to try to understand how I can help correct this terrible behavior along with on leash dog aggression. Thank you for these videos!
I really appreciate this video on body language of dogs. I really want to learn more so I can better anticipate trouble at the dog park or on walks. I’d also like to understand why sometimes ( rarely) my dog ( who is super mellow) barks ( not friendly and just one time) at another dog on walks.
I'm getting an 8 week old Weimaraner on Feb 2nd. I do not plan on neutering him. Thanks for this video. I need to learn the body language signs of escalation so I can stop the fight before it starts.
I have to be honest I was never a Doberman fan, mostly bc I knew nothing about them. Not anything against the breed, I have a pit, just for some reason wasn't really interested as far as owning one. Prince has completely changed my mind on that. Prince is the perfect dog!! He's beautiful. Yes a lot of that speaks to your training, but it says a lot about his breed as well.
Doberman's are beautiful dogs, but I heard they can be high energy and a bit high strung. Probably not the dog for me, though I can appreciate them. I do love pitties, though. I plan on getting one for my next dog.
Breeding + great owner (who knows which breeder and which pup to pick) + great training + never left >4 hre + > 1hr exercise + >1 hr mental exercise (Prince gets a ton of both esp helping other dogs) + dog socialisation + consistency (way the trickiest for most people) .... Alas most people are not doing all those
Hey Joel, my bf's whiny rescued dog is very friendly towards other dogs but he also gets more aggressive/frustrated because of leash corrections (regular collar, no tools). He basically gets a leash pop when he pulls or breaks his heeling whether there is another dog or not. Loose leash walking is getting better but now I have to deal with this learned aggressive behaviour. I Think he needs to be desensitized to dogs from afar but would like a second opinion... Since I'm not sure this could work... Thanks!
Great educational video! I can get a lot from your work! Got a GSD mix from a rescue and he‘s dog reactive abd has a bite history with joggers and bikers at his previous owner 🙄
Was this the one posted earlier, but when opened said private view only? That was weird, right? Another great session Joel! Thank you for this information. Another piece to add to the puzzle 🙏 Hi everyone!!! 🐾🐕
5:01 i’ve always always had dogs fight one another when they’d get in this kinda of position. Crazy how much their body signs give it away if you just really pay attention
This the same problem I’m having with my older rescue. However I had my dog for a couple months before he was neutered and before this, he never showed any aggression. During this time he lived in a house with my dad’s unneutered male Yorkie with no problems. A few weeks after he was neutered he became aggressive towards any and all unneutered males (including the yorkie that he previously liked). The strength of the reaction varies, but sometimes when we pass an unneutered male even at a distance when out for a walk he goes crazy (shaking, snarling, lunging). His tail also wags rapidly during episodes, but he doesn’t seem happy or excited (at least it in a good way), just really upset and essentially unresponsive (it’s like he can’t even see or hear me even though he is normally very obedient). I found this video while looking for solutions. He is a small breed (20ish lbs, shih tzu or havanese mix maybe, so not super aggressive breeds I think). He is very social and makes friends immediately with all people and all dogs (apart from unneutered males). I literally found him half dead on the street, so I have no idea on age or history (maybe he had aggression or dominance issues previously but he was nothing but mild mannered when I brought him home). If it’s just a dominance thing (like I believe is the conclusion drawn in the case in the video) I don’t understand why it would only manifest after neutering. I know all cases are unique, but there seems to be an almost primal biological response that (at least in my dog’s case) manifested after neutering for some reason and may be a factor to consider in cases like this though. Would love to know if this dog ever improved though, and if so what was the key. I’ve looked for follow up videos, but don’t see any.
im sorry but after the dog goes at Prince a bunch, being made to sit still for a few seconds, then Joel just out-of-the-blue "You done a DNA test"? at 5:47 almost killed me
My besenji, yorkie, shi-tsu, poodle mix used to hate un neutered dogs so each time my friend brought his unneutred pit over i had to crate my dog who is neutered. My 13 yr old lab had no issues with this dog unless he tried to get to nosey (she was spayed) eventually my mutt got over his issue of unneutered dogs so much so he and my friends pit are now best friends and love to play together. It took a lot of taking him out before the dog came over, rewarding good behavior, putting my pup away when he got snappy snd waiting for him to calm down as well as keeping him on leash until he was trusted. Now he doesnt care if any dog he meets is fixed, male, or female just that they want to play with him 😊
The freezeframe. I saw that exact thing in an english staff (male), who for some reason just really hated my english bull terrier (female). She was trying to appease him with every trick in the book, but it didn't work, and he pinned her down in the dirt and barked wildly at her. We haven't put those two in the same space again since then. And apparently he did this same thing alter on with two other female dogs of an entirely different breed. He seems to do fine with male dogs, though.
Yeah, the owners should do an Embark Dog DNA Test for best results. Shar Pei also have blue-black tongues. But, I also think Chow. However. That Lab Mix may have a few other breeds in it's ancestry.
The dog is like a Karen. ”Do not run if you don’t ask me first. Do NOT be happy if you not ask me first. Do NOT play and be happy if you not have ask me first”.
I had an unneutered male Entlebucher/Swiss Mountain Cattle dog who got along with dogs, however I discovered there were a few dogs that did not like him because he was intact. At a dog beach, a dog just went after and chased my dog and bit him on the butt. The owner got a hold of his dog and apologized. I then asked the owner if the dog had all his shots after his dog bit my dog. Luckily his dog did not break the skin on my dog. Fortunately, that only happened once at the dog beach.
So I have that issue sometimes no matter how hard the correction or flip is, my dog will not adjust and just wants to stay focused on whatever he's looking at.
@@lilianamatasaru3564 The gentle leader has for sure made the corrections easier, its just sometimes my dog feels like he has a split personality and no amount of correction even on gentle leader matters to him! Other times he's a perfect and requires very few corrections at all, he might still focus on things and not want to turn away from them but he doesn't wander or pull.
@@koloblician5330 that's really interesting!! Have you noticed a difference in the stimulus that he seems to be fixated on with the corrections not working?
@@lilianamatasaru3564 Thats the odd part is that we walk by the same dog who is never on a leash or fenced in and sometimes he'll stare at them and some times he will act like the dog isn't even there and walk right by. Same with squirrels, so I'm trying to find a pattern or trigger and its just odd to me so best I can describe it as is him having multiple personalities lol.
That's how the brain is wired. Try to find the triggers and work on that and be overly aware. Called jekyll and hide. I hope you are able to manage it. Some herbs can help if flight fight
I’ve seen another trainer on RUclips Hold and lay the aggressor dog Down on its side and let the other dog come up and smell him Meanwhile holding down the aggressive one until he is completely calm, which can takes AWHILE What are your thoughts on that?
@@athomehoustonbordercollier2035 This is, to me, the correct way to do it. See, it takes patience to train a dog. It always works for me. The way he yanks the leash then yells at the dog isn't really great to me. First off, it can harm his neck. Second, dogs don't respond well to yelling. I never yell at my dogs, its better to stay calm and collected while training, in fact it's one of the most important things in training.
Kangals - Genetically bred for thousands of years to guard and protect. Naturally, stand firm, square shoulders, lock eyes, and growl, first, when meeting any new animal or human, then relax after they perceive other animal or human is not a threat. They do this from birth. I have 2 litter mates, male/female, 16 weeks old, highly intelligent, obedient, fast learners, well trained, but it is naturally/genetically bred into them face danger head on. Any suggestions?
Looks exactly like my dog. But mine is NEVER wagging his tail. It's always serious. Labrador-Bordercollie Mix. Bäm! From zero to 80. I'm finished. I've tried EVERYTHING. And I have dog experience. With puppy and a (younger) shelter dog. With the first (female) shelter dog (1.5 years and other edge too) I've done it within 2.5 month. No fear anymore, no aggression. But with Lenny... omg. He's 6 years btw. I wish someone could teach him a "common" communication with other dogs.... 😭
Great to see the muzzle stuff. I know the guy mentioned the prong the first time round - @Joel do you think the escalation with correction is because of the prong use? Or is that sometimes a dog personality, if they get in that red zone? I enjoyed this earlier - found the different edit interesting also.
I also was v interested when Joel said the dog gets "worse with the corrections." Then he expanded that though Joel tried to keep the corrects snappy, whenever due to the dog's strength and size there was just plain pulling the dog just amped up. But I think it is also true that even the good snaps didn't stick--the dog took them, but just as sort of a break from his ongoing habit of bossing the other dog...imo
@@pmlm1571 that makes sense, I thought he was saying he was trying to get it to pop, but the dog paid no heed. It may have been timing (as Joel is so on point) but it looked like related escalation
I almost always believe the tail no matter what the mouth is doing except with chows. They will wag their tail and bite you anyway while never stopping the tail. I don’t think they are thinking it is all ok and they do it in fun their tail just isn’t connected in the same way as other dogs to act as a lie detector.
Appreciate the honest review. Still looking for how to change this type of behavior. May just be that's the way he is. Joel, keep trying to really understand how to get through to dogs like this...... How would you do that with a child that was not socialized to playing with other kids properly ???
Your videos have always been so helpful! Our 14 month old intact golden retriever has recently developed a fixation on one dog and constantly trys to persue that dog and hump even when both the dog and us give him corrections. He's always played great with all dogs and been well socialized but this weekend he was fixated on a neutered male a 9 year old female. When another intact male tried to correct him whilst he was fixated he went for the dog and bit his back. No puncture wounds it was more like a pin but still not acceptable. How can we nip this behaviour in the bud? He needs to stop trying to hump other dogs and listen to them when they tell him to back off. Neutered males have always gone for him in the past whilst on lead but this is the first time we've ever seen any reaction or aggression from him. Is it an adolescents age thing? Pleaseeee can we get a video to help!
@@vikingdogmanship well obviously!! He gets put back on the leash but we'd like to do more than that and teach him to be respectful so he can go back off leash
@@hwri6962 I would leave the longleash on, and let him play, but interfere with behaviours you dont want. Meaning stop them before it happens. Little by little you give more freedom, when learns to make good choices. Sorry, it's difficult to explain. English is not my main language
Yeah it seems to be a teenage thing, a rush of hormones and no longer being a puppy doesn’t automatically put you at the bottom of the pack so they need to find their place again. More dominant behaviors from you and on leash muzzled exposure therapy walks with friendly unneutered males.
He truly has some back and dishes they need to take him to the vet and have an x-ray done and possibly get on some arthritis medicine I don’t think he should be playing with dogs at this time in his life
Could he be lacking in good exercise/energy burn, and could he be in pain because he did struggle to get out of the pool at the end there. These things could be affecting his ability to calm? Also maybe his owners need to take him on halti walks, controlling/correcting his mind patterns/behaviours.
Hi, I have a 3 year old male shih tzu yorkie named Kelso who is not neutered. Kelso weighs 19lbs. He has been socialized with dogs and people alot, but he seems to dislike large male dogs, especially if they are not neutered. He seems afraid and reacts badly, snipping, growling, alot. When on leash if he sees a large dog that barks at him, be freaks out and barks at them. Today we saw a reactive dog that was a large dog that had to be held by his owner. Kelso seemed interested and pulled toward him. Guessing it’s a boy. My boyfriend has an old large male boxer and we have no clue how or if we can eventually live together, because I am afraid of Kelso being hurt by his dog. I have considered putting muzzles on both of them and trying to let them smell eachother. Kelso’s snout is sort of short, so i am not sure if it works good for his breed.
I would love to see more dogs like this if possible! My dog is good 90% of the time until something snaps and she goes kamikaze. Can’t figure out the triggers
You could see it coming, he lifted his front paw twice. That is a clear sign of discomfort with the situation. I have seen it too many times and it usually goes bad.
New research results by some big veterinarian colleges are finding that spay / neuter is *not* healthy for some breeds. Such as the labrador, german shepherd, rottweiler, golden retriever, and viszla. My owner did a survey of her own, years ago, on American Pit Bull Terrier and found that if one were to combine all 5 other breeds mentioned and multiply the problems 20 times; that is what the APBT can suffer if S/N'd at any time in it's life. This is one reason why I'm still intact. I'd have to be Retired if I developed any of those health problems caused by S/N. It's also a reason why my predecessor was Ovary Sparing Spayed.
This is late, but before he started the eye-contact staring, would an indicator of his later behavior be how whenever he would be near Prince, he wouldn't even sniff him, but rather wait and do nothing while his head wasn't down, but instead postured more into an attention pose? One of my former dogs used to do that, when I was a kid, but only when she sort of had a "list" of things she was waiting for the other dog to do that would give her a greenlight to start a fight. She would go up to them, stop, and wait while ignoring any play attempts, until the other dog did something that made her feel like she could fight them. A sort of in-between of looking for a fight and being cool; "if this dog does X, then I fight". The ONLY indication that she was looking for "signs" to fight was a small difference - when she was comfortable, her head would be down; when she was looking for signs, her head and ears would be perked up. The snout would also be more horizontal in preparation for a bite, while most dogs have their snouts pointing downwards when comfortable. This dog seemed to be doing that. I may be totally off though.
Like human, it seems that some dogs can be mentally ill. I had a cat that was mentally ill. She was a pale tortie and they have a predisposition towards psychotic behavior, and she did. She was a little crazy. She was fine with me, but with my dogs or at the vet she was scary!
I really don't think this dog is mentally ill, but you are right that vets have indeed linked certian genes with certian mental illnesses in dogs. I'm thinking the chow in him makes him have that chronically stern look. Chows have very similar body language and do not do well with other dogs of the same gender. This seems to be a case of a REALLY bad mixing of two very different breeds. He has the typical temperment of a chow with the appearance of a lab. I'm not sure if these two breeds could mix in a worse way....
Grew up with a neighbor who had black labs, and all of them pretty bad, mean, trying to get on busses to attack us kids. Even bit people but always returned, ripped a kids arm open, Gretchen was her name I believe. Can't remember the name of any pups that grew up and stayed, or well lived. Apparently there were plenty of dog skeletons under the house when they moved out.
I was just about to say that seems *extremely off* for somebody to repeatedly produce extremely aggressive labs... but the last part completely makes sense. Labs, in general, are not inherently people aggressive. Occasionally, you'll find a poorly bred or very horrifically raised one that is... but even they don't usually "rip kids arms" and actively chase people just to hurt them... With that many and that horrific of behavior consistently (plus the hidden skeletons), it sounds like a horrid abusive puppy mill/backyard breeding operation with no regards towards breeding mentally healthy dogs. The behaviors you mentioned here just sound like symptoms of a genetic mental disorder. ...I know I wasn't there, but those dogs sound like they were ligitimately mentally sick. Have you seen any labs act like this since?
I got attacked by my previous neighbor's Lab when I was a kid. People think they aren't capable of aggression, but they're able to be aggressive just like any other dog.
@@kidwolf0015 No dog is human aggressive by nature. Even guard dog breeds were bred to be suspicious of strangers to a reasonable amount. It should never turn into unprovoked aggression. The factors you mentioned that would cause extreme aggression in a Lab can be applied to any other breed.
Very timely. I know that you say you don't feel bad for correcting bad behavior (and you shouldn't since you're trying to help) Curious, would you keep correcting even after the behavior stopped? As a preventative measure of sorts? Like just keep correcting 247 with no let up? I heard private contract companies do that as research training and development..
With the tongue being all black, it is telling me that the genetics are not that far down the line. With it looking primarily lab, I would say its probably ridgeback over a chow.
This dog looks very similar to my mutt. He's basically half lab and the other half is a mix of breeds that, indeed, does include chow chow (his tongue is spotty though not solid black.) So I would say this dog likely has chow and lab in him.
My biggest issue is my shepherd will calmly sit near and want to sniff the other them quickly goes into attack mode. No hair bristles, no tail reaction, no moon eyes, no growls .. until after the sniff is done then it's the attack. We are having our newly adopted dog neutered next week.
It's possible that his owner unconssciously reinforced his behavior? That he was puppy and they introduced him every dog, then he bitten some dog or dog him and he started this because owners started punish him always by seeing others dogs? That's why he is so neurotic due to corrections?
which type of muzzle would u recommend? we are working on rehabbing a friend's dog and we wanted to see if different type of muzzles will have different effects on the dog so we avoid using ones that you don't think is a good idea.
Whatever muzzle you get make sure it's properly fitted for long periods of time. Properly fitted means the dog should be able to pant and drink water comfortably.
As a trainer, a nice way to get the same result with a pull for the dog to turn around and look at you instead of at the other whatever stuff, is a chest harness, big dogs included, cause pulling is not of a strong neck, but from the chest/front legs area, which is quite of a gravity center. Personally prefer that with cases like this when that aggressive behavior toward other dogs could turn around on the person for physically handling him in such a high emotional response. Just an opinion 😁 I learn a lot from you!
Do you not consider with how focused he was on prince as a concern before the freeze frame? I feel as if a dog can’t keep his eyes off the other, that’s a signal of something not so great. You can see prince walking around not paying too much attention to mutt and every once in a while he checks in with a sniff or two. The mutt is just focused on price the whole time. So once again. Does that not indicate anything to you? I’m also curious why you don’t feel to say good job to when he listens to the sits and leaves it? I think you know a ton but I also feel as if you added a bit more positive reinforcement in the session you would have faster results. Prince doesn’t seem to understand the words “you need to calm down” maybe asking for a down and stay he would understand what you’re asking of him. Not hating on you at all! These are just some things I feel are important!
My dog is beyond excellent with all dogs big or small, male or female. EXCEPT INTACT MALES where he becomes immediately extremely aggressive! I’m so at a loss!
Im not a trainer, but if i know or see all black tongue or even partial black tongue, be prepared for the chow behaviors. Not great for social mixing, especially an older one already. I love watching your videos.
@@dania1059 Research suggests that there are over 30 dog breeds that may have black-tongued dogs. Some other breeds that may have black-tongued dogs are: Collies Bull Mastiff Labrador Retriever Cocker Spaniel Australian Cattle Dog Great Pyrenees Dalmatian Irish Setter Newfoundland Mountain Cur
My dog old Pitt rescue was the same he would be good then he would get dominant over smaller dogs .. but a young dog because a guy let his young smaller dog come in with big dogs! And his dog was just on crack compared to everyone else's dog. Didn't sniff any one and just went to play biting my dog's lip and my dog corrected him by getting on top of it. And this dog was too excited and did not calm down. Then he bit my dog's lip again then my dog bit back and locked 1 tooth. I swear I had squeeze his balls to release. And then the whole park turned on me and said my dog bit first. Smh I stopped going to parks
Those corrections are now "associated "with meeting dogs. So it's escalating the bad behavior. I disagree with this method. Dog needs positive association, and time limits before he reaches his arousal threshold. Leave with success, reward, and give him a break. Build from short positive encounters and "positive associations"
It's me again, your videos are too good. The only thing this dog looks a little too old for too many flips. However, you gotta do what you gotta do as he's active enough.
I find it very endearing when Prince does the 'play bow.' That would make a cool T-shirt.
Oooh, yes! That would be adorable and a great design. 😃
I’d buy it 😁
Love the freeze frame. I’ve thought for a while that you should incorporate those, as well as rewinds and re-watches. Like do the voiceover with original video, point out some behavior that we normal people need to watch for, then rewind and show us again, maybe even slow motion or zoomed in. Keep up the great work and thanks for all you show.
Every time the dog is corrected with the leash, I just imagine prince thinking to himself: haha that doesn’t feel good does it.
he knows...he knows
To this dog, it is fun. He loves it. I have an ex-fighting dog now. He loves it. His owners made him love doing it. He always was rewarded. Now I have to break all that. Takes lots of time.
The chow foundation mixed with the Labrador’s lack of acknowledgment with corrections makes for a tough cookie. Labs don’t really care for corrections, they literally write them off and usually go back to playing. The Chow in him is taking that “go back to playing” to a different level. It’s interesting but definitely makes for a tough cookie for a dog
Don’t get me started on Labradors denseness. My lab is such a meathead 🤦♀️
Garbage rescue mutt w crossed wires
Obviously not doing a good job on corrections then, mine never has issues. We also have a strong relationship.
I’m not saying they don’t take the corrections. I mean they wouldn’t hold a grudge from the corrections. (If your were talking about the lab.)
My lab is like a brick he doesnt care. Once he got hit hard on the head and he brushed it off like someone pet him harder than usual😂
as soon as you first mentioned the black tongue... CHOW! i was a dog groomer for ten years. the first dog that ever got aggressive with me was a chow in my first two weeks of grooming because no one else wanted to deal with him because he was aggressive for no reason so they pawned him off on the newbie. i've met several chows since, and one of my top five favourite dogs that i groomed regularly in that decade was a full chow... but man, chows still make me leary. i trusted the wolf hybrid we knew was a hybrid but couldn't prove it because his vet papers said "german shepherd mix" more than almost any chow.
Chow mixes are some of the hardest breeds to train. They are a very old breed and they have some specific things they don't like. It takes extra time to get them used to the leash. I had a 50/50 chow and he hated being held, hated leashes, hated any restraint whatsoever. However, he like the ball so we were able to redirect his behavior using a ball. It didn't correct the behavior, it just made it manageable. Luckily he was not dog aggressive and got along with cats too, so it was mostly just human social stuff he had to overcome and as long as there was a ball, he was happy.
Wow what a tough mix Chow/Lab. Fascinating body language from your point of view. Lip licks,tail wag, eye to eye and the best his energy excelled by the leash correction and non caring. BUT your knee flips and the quick pop to loosen that energy from the leash was an amazing piece of information! Plus your touch’s to the head to clam. Thank you
I came back to watch this a second time earlier and it was private. I’m glad you’re reuploaded more clips with the same dog.
Dang. Did someone steal my dog and take him for a session with you 🤔? He's a neutered half lab-mix half chow. It's almost like he's tryina make up for his lost balls. So macho for no reason. Thanks for uploading this!
Cant be much chow in your dog if it looks like this.
Not sure if it's true but I've heard that neutered male dogs become insecure around un-neutered dogs and they become aggressive. Just what I heard doesn't make it true
@@vikingdogmanship Embark says he's 50% pure Chow. Dunno if that counts as "much" in your book
@@AHHHHHH107 I've heard this too. And it seems to be a pattern with my dog. Not sure if it's because he's neutered or just has a weak temperament. Probably the latter but I don't know for sure either 🤷
@@jeiwaru Got the best from both worlds🤣
I've had the impression from past experience that Chows are unpredictable and can turn aggressive quickly
Yeah, I'd have done the same thing you did. He seemed good with Prince behind the fence, and even when he came out. The dog's body was relaxed for the most part, although his hackles did come up a couple of times. Loved the freeze-frame.
Way too much intensity, his staring is intimidating for many other dogs.
That with the constant lip licking and some stiffness in the body (neck and head held high). The part that made me nervous was how much lip licking he was doing from the start with Prince
Is it possible he isn't fulfilling his exercise needs? Seems a little overweight. Maybe built up frustration.
The brain seems so fixated
Yea I noticed that I thought it was a rottweiler because of the fatness/thickness but he's not, probably a chow Labrador mix or something?
@@bbycherub2420 yeah I can see a chow lab mix also. Definitely lab
YES! Exercise is very important to dog training.
The warning signs were there the whole time, at least from what I saw! It’s just hard to know in what direction it will continue , because as you said, it can go both ways.
yeah there wasnt a single point where the dog was actually being friendly. at the beginning he was being tolerant and feeling the situation out, but was still posturing the whole time. it was only a matter of time before he finally decided to become aggressive.
not really tbh
Yes, he was always a bit tense. I didn't find the tailwags completely friendly. And his eyes weren't soft.
His mouth was for the most part tensely closed even when he panted he was either whining or it was a tense mouth even with the mouth open there was no relaxed happy panting.
Prince there ready to help his Dad if needed 💙
Probably good thing he didn’t re-direct on yourself, he was a bit scary sometimes, thought he might.
Thanks for letting us know more about how to read dogs ❤❤❤❤
4:41 The whining... A visceral response to being excited
My almost 2 year old Siberian Husky does not like young male puppies. Typically they are intact so I think that is why but I don’t know for sure. I’m watching tons of your videos to try to understand how I can help correct this terrible behavior along with on leash dog aggression. Thank you for these videos!
I really appreciate this video on body language of dogs. I really want to learn more so I can better anticipate trouble at the dog park or on walks. I’d also like to understand why sometimes ( rarely) my dog ( who is super mellow) barks ( not friendly and just one time) at another dog on walks.
Awesome educational session. Thank you!!
Would exercise the dog before training help move the fog along with the corrections . Ty great video
I'm getting an 8 week old Weimaraner on Feb 2nd. I do not plan on neutering him. Thanks for this video. I need to learn the body language signs of escalation so I can stop the fight before it starts.
I have to be honest I was never a Doberman fan, mostly bc I knew nothing about them. Not anything against the breed, I have a pit, just for some reason wasn't really interested as far as owning one. Prince has completely changed my mind on that. Prince is the perfect dog!! He's beautiful. Yes a lot of that speaks to your training, but it says a lot about his breed as well.
Doberman's are beautiful dogs, but I heard they can be high energy and a bit high strung. Probably not the dog for me, though I can appreciate them. I do love pitties, though. I plan on getting one for my next dog.
Breeding + great owner (who knows which breeder and which pup to pick) + great training + never left >4 hre + > 1hr exercise + >1 hr mental exercise (Prince gets a ton of both esp helping other dogs) + dog socialisation + consistency (way the trickiest for most people) .... Alas most people are not doing all those
He possibly Has some arthritis in his back legs
Great video!
That tail wag doesn't mean this dog is friendly or happy.
It's just means excitement, which can go either way.
The fact that the dog is severely overweight probably doesn’t help his situation 🙄
Hey Joel, my bf's whiny rescued dog is very friendly towards other dogs but he also gets more aggressive/frustrated because of leash corrections (regular collar, no tools). He basically gets a leash pop when he pulls or breaks his heeling whether there is another dog or not. Loose leash walking is getting better but now I have to deal with this learned aggressive behaviour. I Think he needs to be desensitized to dogs from afar but would like a second opinion... Since I'm not sure this could work... Thanks!
Great educational video! I can get a lot from your work! Got a GSD mix from a rescue and he‘s dog reactive abd has a bite history with joggers and bikers at his previous owner 🙄
Was this the one posted earlier, but when opened said private view only? That was weird, right?
Another great session Joel! Thank you for this information. Another piece to add to the puzzle 🙏
Hi everyone!!!
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5:01 i’ve always always had dogs fight one another when they’d get in this kinda of position. Crazy how much their body signs give it away if you just really pay attention
This the same problem I’m having with my older rescue. However I had my dog for a couple months before he was neutered and before this, he never showed any aggression. During this time he lived in a house with my dad’s unneutered male Yorkie with no problems. A few weeks after he was neutered he became aggressive towards any and all unneutered males (including the yorkie that he previously liked). The strength of the reaction varies, but sometimes when we pass an unneutered male even at a distance when out for a walk he goes crazy (shaking, snarling, lunging). His tail also wags rapidly during episodes, but he doesn’t seem happy or excited (at least it in a good way), just really upset and essentially unresponsive (it’s like he can’t even see or hear me even though he is normally very obedient). I found this video while looking for solutions. He is a small breed (20ish lbs, shih tzu or havanese mix maybe, so not super aggressive breeds I think). He is very social and makes friends immediately with all people and all dogs (apart from unneutered males). I literally found him half dead on the street, so I have no idea on age or history (maybe he had aggression or dominance issues previously but he was nothing but mild mannered when I brought him home). If it’s just a dominance thing (like I believe is the conclusion drawn in the case in the video) I don’t understand why it would only manifest after neutering. I know all cases are unique, but there seems to be an almost primal biological response that (at least in my dog’s case) manifested after neutering for some reason and may be a factor to consider in cases like this though.
Would love to know if this dog ever improved though, and if so what was the key. I’ve looked for follow up videos, but don’t see any.
The way he roll around at the green turf is pure dominance.
No it just feels good
@@joshg4562 As well as sensemark which is a part of dominancestrathegy.
im sorry but after the dog goes at Prince a bunch, being made to sit still for a few seconds, then Joel just out-of-the-blue "You done a DNA test"? at 5:47 almost killed me
Right? For some reason this made me crack up too!
It’s bc of the tongue I think that’s where he finally noticed it
My besenji, yorkie, shi-tsu, poodle mix used to hate un neutered dogs so each time my friend brought his unneutred pit over i had to crate my dog who is neutered. My 13 yr old lab had no issues with this dog unless he tried to get to nosey (she was spayed) eventually my mutt got over his issue of unneutered dogs so much so he and my friends pit are now best friends and love to play together. It took a lot of taking him out before the dog came over, rewarding good behavior, putting my pup away when he got snappy snd waiting for him to calm down as well as keeping him on leash until he was trusted. Now he doesnt care if any dog he meets is fixed, male, or female just that they want to play with him 😊
Hunger is a great trainer, before training miss some meals and use hunger as a tool.....it could work.....
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I’d be really interested to hear dog trainers views on this PLUS any other owners opinions and successes failures🇬🇧
The freezeframe. I saw that exact thing in an english staff (male), who for some reason just really hated my english bull terrier (female). She was trying to appease him with every trick in the book, but it didn't work, and he pinned her down in the dirt and barked wildly at her. We haven't put those two in the same space again since then. And apparently he did this same thing alter on with two other female dogs of an entirely different breed. He seems to do fine with male dogs, though.
Great information
Yeah, the owners should do an Embark Dog DNA Test for best results. Shar Pei also have blue-black tongues. But, I also think Chow. However. That Lab Mix may have a few other breeds in it's ancestry.
Joel is my spirit human!!!
First I thought he is watching Prince's neck to bite on.
The dog is like a Karen. ”Do not run if you don’t ask me first. Do NOT be happy if you not ask me first. Do NOT play and be happy if you not have ask me first”.
Bad parenting
I had an unneutered male Entlebucher/Swiss Mountain Cattle dog who got along with dogs, however I discovered there were a few dogs that did not like him because he was intact. At a dog beach, a dog just went after and chased my dog and bit him on the butt. The owner got a hold of his dog and apologized. I then asked the owner if the dog had all his shots after his dog bit my dog. Luckily his dog did not break the skin on my dog. Fortunately, that only happened once at the dog beach.
Why are so many dogs so fat? Apart of the health issue it makes it even more difficult to hold them.
3:28 im a 35 year old boy and ill never change my ways regardless of how many times close friends and family tell me i most definitely should.
Thanks!
So I have that issue sometimes no matter how hard the correction or flip is, my dog will not adjust and just wants to stay focused on whatever he's looking at.
I have the same issue with my dog!! I'm thinking of getting him a gentle leader to fix that.
@@lilianamatasaru3564 The gentle leader has for sure made the corrections easier, its just sometimes my dog feels like he has a split personality and no amount of correction even on gentle leader matters to him! Other times he's a perfect and requires very few corrections at all, he might still focus on things and not want to turn away from them but he doesn't wander or pull.
@@koloblician5330 that's really interesting!! Have you noticed a difference in the stimulus that he seems to be fixated on with the corrections not working?
@@lilianamatasaru3564 Thats the odd part is that we walk by the same dog who is never on a leash or fenced in and sometimes he'll stare at them and some times he will act like the dog isn't even there and walk right by. Same with squirrels, so I'm trying to find a pattern or trigger and its just odd to me so best I can describe it as is him having multiple personalities lol.
That's how the brain is wired. Try to find the triggers and work on that and be overly aware. Called jekyll and hide. I hope you are able to manage it. Some herbs can help if flight fight
I’ve seen another trainer on RUclips
Hold and lay the aggressor dog
Down on its side and let the other dog come up and smell him
Meanwhile holding down the aggressive one until he is completely calm, which can takes AWHILE
What are your thoughts on that?
Old school dominance. No for me!! And it doesn't transfer when no one holds the dog down so what does the dog learn 🤔
@@athomehoustonbordercollier2035 it works for some and less for others. Just a matter of figuring out what the dog needs.
@@athomehoustonbordercollier2035 This is, to me, the correct way to do it. See, it takes patience to train a dog. It always works for me. The way he yanks the leash then yells at the dog isn't really great to me. First off, it can harm his neck. Second, dogs don't respond well to yelling. I never yell at my dogs, its better to stay calm and collected while training, in fact it's one of the most important things in training.
Gosh from 0 to 70 alright. How did that happen, one sec he's let's play, the next you told him to stop he snaps immediately.
Kangals - Genetically bred for thousands of years to guard and protect. Naturally, stand firm, square shoulders, lock eyes, and growl, first, when meeting any new animal or human, then relax after they perceive other animal or human is not a threat. They do this from birth. I have 2 litter mates, male/female, 16 weeks old, highly intelligent, obedient, fast learners, well trained, but it is naturally/genetically bred into them face danger head on. Any suggestions?
Looks exactly like my dog. But mine is NEVER wagging his tail. It's always serious. Labrador-Bordercollie Mix. Bäm! From zero to 80.
I'm finished. I've tried EVERYTHING.
And I have dog experience. With puppy and a (younger) shelter dog. With the first (female) shelter dog (1.5 years and other edge too) I've done it within 2.5 month.
No fear anymore, no aggression.
But with Lenny... omg.
He's 6 years btw.
I wish someone could teach him a "common" communication with other dogs.... 😭
Good content and tutorial
Great to see the muzzle stuff.
I know the guy mentioned the prong the first time round - @Joel do you think the escalation with correction is because of the prong use?
Or is that sometimes a dog personality, if they get in that red zone?
I enjoyed this earlier - found the different edit interesting also.
I also was v interested when Joel said the dog gets "worse with the corrections." Then he expanded that though Joel tried to keep the corrects snappy, whenever due to the dog's strength and size there was just plain pulling the dog just amped up. But I think it is also true that even the good snaps didn't stick--the dog took them, but just as sort of a break from his ongoing habit of bossing the other dog...imo
@@pmlm1571 that makes sense, I thought he was saying he was trying to get it to pop, but the dog paid no heed.
It may have been timing (as Joel is so on point) but it looked like related escalation
This was my brother's Aussie growing up, Sunny. Would not submit or respond to corrections. We had to give him up.
I almost always believe the tail no matter what the mouth is doing except with chows. They will wag their tail and bite you anyway while never stopping the tail. I don’t think they are thinking it is all ok and they do it in fun their tail just isn’t connected in the same way as other dogs to act as a lie detector.
Appreciate the honest review. Still looking for how to change this type of behavior. May just be that's the way he is. Joel, keep trying to really understand how to get through to dogs like this...... How would you do that with a child that was not socialized to playing with other kids properly ???
Great video. I was wondering at what point do you consider using drugs to calm the dog down along with training for behavioral modification?
Your videos have always been so helpful! Our 14 month old intact golden retriever has recently developed a fixation on one dog and constantly trys to persue that dog and hump even when both the dog and us give him corrections. He's always played great with all dogs and been well socialized but this weekend he was fixated on a neutered male a 9 year old female. When another intact male tried to correct him whilst he was fixated he went for the dog and bit his back. No puncture wounds it was more like a pin but still not acceptable. How can we nip this behaviour in the bud? He needs to stop trying to hump other dogs and listen to them when they tell him to back off. Neutered males have always gone for him in the past whilst on lead but this is the first time we've ever seen any reaction or aggression from him. Is it an adolescents age thing? Pleaseeee can we get a video to help!
Dont let him hump and harass.
@@vikingdogmanship well obviously!! He gets put back on the leash but we'd like to do more than that and teach him to be respectful so he can go back off leash
@@hwri6962 I would leave the longleash on, and let him play, but interfere with behaviours you dont want. Meaning stop them before it happens. Little by little you give more freedom, when learns to make good choices. Sorry, it's difficult to explain. English is not my main language
Yeah it seems to be a teenage thing, a rush of hormones and no longer being a puppy doesn’t automatically put you at the bottom of the pack so they need to find their place again. More dominant behaviors from you and on leash muzzled exposure therapy walks with friendly unneutered males.
He truly has some back and dishes they need to take him to the vet and have an x-ray done and possibly get on some arthritis medicine I don’t think he should be playing with dogs at this time in his life
I would implement the use of some more aversive tools. Yanking on a comfy martingale ain’t gonna do anything for this dog 🤷♂️
Could he be lacking in good exercise/energy burn, and could he be in pain because he did struggle to get out of the pool at the end there. These things could be affecting his ability to calm? Also maybe his owners need to take him on halti walks, controlling/correcting his mind patterns/behaviours.
Hi, I have a 3 year old male shih tzu yorkie named Kelso who is not neutered. Kelso weighs 19lbs. He has been socialized with dogs and people alot, but he seems to dislike large male dogs, especially if they are not neutered. He seems afraid and reacts badly, snipping, growling, alot. When on leash if he sees a large dog that barks at him, be freaks out and barks at them. Today we saw a reactive dog that was a large dog that had to be held by his owner. Kelso seemed interested and pulled toward him. Guessing it’s a boy.
My boyfriend has an old large male boxer and we have no clue how or if we can eventually live together, because I am afraid of Kelso being hurt by his dog. I have considered putting muzzles on both of them and trying to let them smell eachother.
Kelso’s snout is sort of short, so i am not sure if it works good for his breed.
I would love to see more dogs like this if possible! My dog is good 90% of the time until something snaps and she goes kamikaze. Can’t figure out the triggers
Also prince ran away from him in the black dog was on a leash that might’ve triggered the whole thing
You could see it coming, he lifted his front paw twice. That is a clear sign of discomfort with the situation. I have seen it too many times and it usually goes bad.
New research results by some big veterinarian colleges are finding that spay / neuter is *not* healthy for some breeds. Such as the labrador, german shepherd, rottweiler, golden retriever, and viszla. My owner did a survey of her own, years ago, on American Pit Bull Terrier and found that if one were to combine all 5 other breeds mentioned and multiply the problems 20 times; that is what the APBT can suffer if S/N'd at any time in it's life. This is one reason why I'm still intact. I'd have to be Retired if I developed any of those health problems caused by S/N. It's also a reason why my predecessor was Ovary Sparing Spayed.
Is it possible to train this behavior out of them ?
I’m gonna say Labrador, Chow Chow, Rottweiler mix.
did u try to put him with a whole pack (5-10 dogs). let him get in an area where 10 dogs are chilled? would that help?
This is late, but before he started the eye-contact staring, would an indicator of his later behavior be how whenever he would be near Prince, he wouldn't even sniff him, but rather wait and do nothing while his head wasn't down, but instead postured more into an attention pose?
One of my former dogs used to do that, when I was a kid, but only when she sort of had a "list" of things she was waiting for the other dog to do that would give her a greenlight to start a fight. She would go up to them, stop, and wait while ignoring any play attempts, until the other dog did something that made her feel like she could fight them. A sort of in-between of looking for a fight and being cool; "if this dog does X, then I fight". The ONLY indication that she was looking for "signs" to fight was a small difference - when she was comfortable, her head would be down; when she was looking for signs, her head and ears would be perked up. The snout would also be more horizontal in preparation for a bite, while most dogs have their snouts pointing downwards when comfortable. This dog seemed to be doing that.
I may be totally off though.
This is why dog parks kinda suck, owners don't know how to handle there pups.
Like human, it seems that some dogs can be mentally ill. I had a cat that was mentally ill. She was a pale tortie and they have a predisposition towards psychotic behavior, and she did. She was a little crazy. She was fine with me, but with my dogs or at the vet she was scary!
That dog is not mentally ill.
I really don't think this dog is mentally ill, but you are right that vets have indeed linked certian genes with certian mental illnesses in dogs.
I'm thinking the chow in him makes him have that chronically stern look. Chows have very similar body language and do not do well with other dogs of the same gender. This seems to be a case of a REALLY bad mixing of two very different breeds.
He has the typical temperment of a chow with the appearance of a lab. I'm not sure if these two breeds could mix in a worse way....
My lab was like that at 4 ,I gave up and just avoided dogs for rest of his life. He died at 11 happy dog .
Grew up with a neighbor who had black labs, and all of them pretty bad, mean, trying to get on busses to attack us kids. Even bit people but always returned, ripped a kids arm open, Gretchen was her name I believe. Can't remember the name of any pups that grew up and stayed, or well lived. Apparently there were plenty of dog skeletons under the house when they moved out.
I was just about to say that seems *extremely off* for somebody to repeatedly produce extremely aggressive labs... but the last part completely makes sense.
Labs, in general, are not inherently people aggressive. Occasionally, you'll find a poorly bred or very horrifically raised one that is... but even they don't usually "rip kids arms" and actively chase people just to hurt them...
With that many and that horrific of behavior consistently (plus the hidden skeletons), it sounds like a horrid abusive puppy mill/backyard breeding operation with no regards towards breeding mentally healthy dogs. The behaviors you mentioned here just sound like symptoms of a genetic mental disorder.
...I know I wasn't there, but those dogs sound like they were ligitimately mentally sick. Have you seen any labs act like this since?
I got attacked by my previous neighbor's Lab when I was a kid. People think they aren't capable of aggression, but they're able to be aggressive just like any other dog.
@@kidwolf0015 No dog is human aggressive by nature. Even guard dog breeds were bred to be suspicious of strangers to a reasonable amount. It should never turn into unprovoked aggression. The factors you mentioned that would cause extreme aggression in a Lab can be applied to any other breed.
So weird... i usually think dogs that look like this dog are friendly. It looks like a black lab. So strange
Any dog can be aggressive or have behavioural issues, even Labs.
Very timely. I know that you say you don't feel bad for correcting bad behavior (and you shouldn't since you're trying to help) Curious, would you keep correcting even after the behavior stopped? As a preventative measure of sorts? Like just keep correcting 247 with no let up? I heard private contract companies do that as research training and development..
I bet that dog took $10,000 worth of training, and probably will still need to be put down if the dog aggression continues
My male rescue paws at the ground when we are at spots where other dogs have pee'd. Is this dominance ?
With the tongue being all black, it is telling me that the genetics are not that far down the line. With it looking primarily lab, I would say its probably ridgeback over a chow.
This dog looks very similar to my mutt. He's basically half lab and the other half is a mix of breeds that, indeed, does include chow chow (his tongue is spotty though not solid black.) So I would say this dog likely has chow and lab in him.
My biggest issue is my shepherd will calmly sit near and want to sniff the other them quickly goes into attack mode. No hair bristles, no tail reaction, no moon eyes, no growls .. until after the sniff is done then it's the attack. We are having our newly adopted dog neutered next week.
It's possible that his owner unconssciously reinforced his behavior? That he was puppy and they introduced him every dog, then he bitten some dog or dog him and he started this because owners started punish him always by seeing others dogs? That's why he is so neurotic due to corrections?
Do you think it would help to put him down when he was aggressive with Prince?
Yeah, the neutered dogs don't like me too much, either. But, we stay away because of my job.
which type of muzzle would u recommend? we are working on rehabbing a friend's dog and we wanted to see if different type of muzzles will have different effects on the dog so we avoid using ones that you don't think is a good idea.
Whatever muzzle you get make sure it's properly fitted for long periods of time. Properly fitted means the dog should be able to pant and drink water comfortably.
I know this is an 8month old comment but in case anyone else had a similar question, jafcos are a very good muzzle that is also bite proof
As a trainer, a nice way to get the same result with a pull for the dog to turn around and look at you instead of at the other whatever stuff, is a chest harness, big dogs included, cause pulling is not of a strong neck, but from the chest/front legs area, which is quite of a gravity center. Personally prefer that with cases like this when that aggressive behavior toward other dogs could turn around on the person for physically handling him in such a high emotional response. Just an opinion 😁 I learn a lot from you!
3.06 first sign
Looks like a chow Labrador mix breed if you look it up as he looks like a black Labrador .
Do you not consider with how focused he was on prince as a concern before the freeze frame? I feel as if a dog can’t keep his eyes off the other, that’s a signal of something not so great. You can see prince walking around not paying too much attention to mutt and every once in a while he checks in with a sniff or two. The mutt is just focused on price the whole time. So once again. Does that not indicate anything to you?
I’m also curious why you don’t feel to say good job to when he listens to the sits and leaves it?
I think you know a ton but I also feel as if you added a bit more positive reinforcement in the session you would have faster results.
Prince doesn’t seem to understand the words “you need to calm down” maybe asking for a down and stay he would understand what you’re asking of him.
Not hating on you at all! These are just some things I feel are important!
How come on this occasion you didn't let Prince pin him?
Is it the size n age of the dog? Does that work better when they're still pups?
My dog is beyond excellent with all dogs big or small, male or female. EXCEPT INTACT MALES where he becomes immediately extremely aggressive! I’m so at a loss!
Im not a trainer, but if i know or see all black tongue or even partial black tongue, be prepared for the chow behaviors. Not great for social mixing, especially an older one already. I love watching your videos.
Looks like a Labrador to me. They can have black tounges.
@@vikingdogmanship yep a cross with a lab maybe. Ive never seen a full bred lab with a black tongue.
@@dania1059 Research suggests that there are over 30 dog breeds that may have black-tongued dogs. Some other breeds that may have black-tongued dogs are:
Collies
Bull Mastiff
Labrador Retriever
Cocker Spaniel
Australian Cattle Dog
Great Pyrenees
Dalmatian
Irish Setter
Newfoundland
Mountain Cur
@@vikingdogmanship interesting! Ive boarded over 600 dogs in 7 years and have not seen this once.
@@dania1059 I havent either. But cant deny it excist
The dog looks like a black lab to me if not pure lab maybe lab mix
Aplying pain to for example to his ears when he doesnt respond to corrections is a viable way? Is pain viable for any type of behavior training?
My dog old Pitt rescue was the same he would be good then he would get dominant over smaller dogs .. but a young dog because a guy let his young smaller dog come in with big dogs! And his dog was just on crack compared to everyone else's dog. Didn't sniff any one and just went to play biting my dog's lip and my dog corrected him by getting on top of it. And this dog was too excited and did not calm down. Then he bit my dog's lip again then my dog bit back and locked 1 tooth. I swear I had squeeze his balls to release. And then the whole park turned on me and said my dog bit first. Smh I stopped going to parks
Those corrections are now "associated "with meeting dogs. So it's escalating the bad behavior. I disagree with this method. Dog needs positive association, and time limits before he reaches his arousal threshold. Leave with success, reward, and give him a break. Build from short positive encounters and "positive associations"
He went from 0 to 80 because prince the young gun is parading his physicality and it was starting to annoy him..
It's me again, your videos are too good. The only thing this dog looks a little too old for too many flips. However, you gotta do what you gotta do as he's active enough.