@@matthewlawton9241 There's that, but also car manufacturer's would rather their customers believe their car is a magic box, that they should never try to fix.
I agree that advertising using feels is silly, however, I think most people simply aren't interested in the engineering. Instead I would like to see more openness and truthfulness about the performance of the product. E.g. Chevrolet models with these suspensions are 10% less bumpy than the competition or previous models.
These older videos are soooo much better than the new ones. No ads, no bullshit just explain in plain english and simple demonstrations. Simplicity is key.
If commercials today were made today like they were yesterday, people wouldn't be so stupid. The United States would still be the leader in manufacturing.
They really are very good at explaining the basic function and principles of these things. Y'know, before we engineered the crap out of them and made them dauntingly complex.
@@chocohouse4147 it's called the transatlantic accent, and they use it because microphones were shit back then so they have to talk a certain way to make it actually audible. i guess "lost to time" here is more or less "increasing microphone quality"...
@@mizuki4002 oh wow, thanks for the information! That's really interesting! I was talking less about how they were talking and more about the style of the advertisement (eg. Actually explaining things to their customers).
I am literally blown away by the intelligence of the ppl back then and their editing. For as old as this I swear this stuff is more entertaining than today’s commercials by a lot.
@@mediapc4747 if u carefully observe, i have already learnt abt it in my latest comment moreover the caps lock was intentional as a way to show my LOUDNESS and shouting out of sheer enthusiasm which u may see it as childish over-enthusiasm because i am still 2 weeks away from becoming 4 yrs old......if u have more questions i wud be happy to answer them
@@mzflighter6905 I mean they also explained transmissions really well. The key is to explain very basic principles first as opposed to explaining what it's based off of. The Transmission video had a short but sweet section about levers before explaining the function of a transmission and how it works in regards to driving the car. Understanding that, we know how to move forward by starting simple and explaining how the technology works gradually. Instead of trying to sell me your technology in 2 minutes with little to no technical demonstration, sell it to me with your knowledge of how the thing works. They did it in 10 minutes.
I believe this film was created by the Jam Handy Organization in Detroit. They were the major marketing/educational provider for Chevrolet for a couple decades. Located on Grand Blvd, few blocks east of Woodward. You can still see one of their signs on a remaining bldg. I worked there in late 60's. Pretty much out of business by then. Prior to that it was a huge, creative business. Employed hundreds!
@@spicycharlez3780 Basically, the old gave way to the new. Old ways gave way to new ways. The old guys in charge were gradually replaced by new guys in charge. Society was changing faster than the companies were changing. At least that's how I see it today.
Rebuilding takes considerably more time than replacing. It you pay a mechanic $100 an hour to work on your car and he removes, rebuilds and puts back your suspension it takes many hours and costs a lot of money. If he removes and replaces your suspension it is much quicker and therefore costs less money. Consumer greed has caused the throw away society we live in. If people were willing to pay for quality work then that's what would be on offer
I never really stopped to think how a suspension system works. I absolutely love how this teaches the basics, without making it sound dumbed down. I love this!!!
You can make an easy to see model today, but for actual purposes that would be stupid to use since you'd have to sacrifice the ability to fully show it.
Dude... these people were so much better at teaching back then. Ridiculous how visually informative this is compared to todays methods of "Pay us first and we'll drip feed you useful knowledge every so often".
@@jimsmith3715 Yeah that's also true. Between 1930 and 1978 the whole world lost enough "iq poins" to be classified as retarded based on the previous counting system, in over 95% of the cases. Then they covered it up and changed the calculations, but the.trith remains, we are phisically significantly dumber than people a century ago strictly due to lead
Agreed I wish ads treated the viewer not like a moron and explained why there product is good with evidence and then let’s you decide rather than saying it’s good
Vocabulary back in the 30's up to the 50 late 60's is very simple and isn't that complicated but today there are too many words for all the thing-a-magigers we use on a daily basis. You feel put on the spot when it comes time to talk about mechanics but back then everything was simple.
"System" instead of "Device" maybe. you see, suspension is a made of a combination of multiple things working together to remove that pain in your ass!
@@ryansolomon5083 That's because we need a standart to talk with. Not standardized vocabulary creates a lot of problems in terms of comunications, and since we are talking about things that are produced in billions there is a lot of communication involved in making, fixing and selling these things. I agree that it's much simpler to describe a device by it's function, but when you have quite a few modifications of the same device that diverces in the principles and aplications it's quite a hassle to describe it each and every time.
Because it has very soft springs. Today cars are designed to be very smooth on straight asphalt while having good handling. Off road vehicles have soft springs and slow dampening to absorb more but the handling at high speed is compromised. There's always a trade off.
@@Cozzy-Wozzy actually, old cars are significantly softer and more conventionally comfortable on large bumps. The reason modern cars feel bumpier is a combination of stiffer chassis, and the necessity for better vehicle control. Old cars handle like SHIT, but they are very comfortable over potholes and bumps. They had to be changed for the better of safety and handling and thus sacrificed conventional comfort
I learn so much from these old videos. It’s cool to see the creative approach they took to demonstrate these topics without the aid of computers and graphics.
1938 - let's make comfortable cars so you don't feel the bumps in the road 2019 - let's make "sporty" cars with hard seats and low profile tires so you can feel every bump in the road
they did sporty cars back then as well. But for racing. Sporty cars are less comfortable but can handle load better when cornering etc to stay level and keep traction Softer suspension makes the car more prone to shift its weight too much left and right wich prevents it from cornering fast. Also sporty cars are more fun to drive bc they are more reactive and stable under heave load like braking, accelarating and turning. So they are more safe and faster when racing.
A lot of content is bands on stuff, you just need to look in the right places. There is theoretical demostrations and hands on demostrations all over youtube.
In this video I have got the much more awareness on car suspensions, thanks for the perfect explanation about Chevrolet Suspension. With this I got a clear idea on the working principle of car suspension. Thank you. 👍
This is an awesome video! I wish they still made videos like this! I am an engineering student that has taken dynamics and vibrations. We are using all these new sensors as our pen and paper, but something about this low tech testing is just awesome! I could not stop smiling while watching this video. Thank you for sharing it with the world! =)
Could you please answer a small question. I'm mounting a very heavy engine in my truck, it weights 1600 lbs . It will be "over" the front wheels. The most straightforward method is a leaf spring solid front axle. How stiff should my leafs be? And how far up or back from the springs should the engine sit for the most comfort.
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To be honest, I blame consumer attention span. They want something that grabs them, holds them for 10 seconds, and then leaves. I have to punish myself because I'm starting to fall into that gap.
I love how this vintage video explains everything for ordinary people to understand. Now I know a thing or two about suspension system. Can't wait to learn more!😊
@Retro SEGA and More that may be true but a couple things to consider. 1. Traditional steel is very heavy, it isn't suited for all vehicle types and can also cause more deadly car on car crashes as there is more weight involved And 2. While rigidity is great, the front area of the car must be able to more easily deform in order to act as a cushion. (Known as a crumple zone.) These crumple zones are a critical part of modern car safety, maybe even more so than airbags. (Even though those are very good as well) Materials that are more suited for designing cars would be materials like aluminum, aluminum alloys, modern lightened steel, and in some cases even copper, and carbon fiber as they are all still tough while retaining a more lightweight body and chassis.
@@1mariomaniac sadly a lot of people, mostly old/old school folks have the mentality of unbreakable=better, it is true that old cars you can crash them hard and some might just require tightening some bolts, maybe re-sync the timing bands and a good old-fashion paint job and off you go, yes that is good... but most people ignore/don't know that the fact that your car collapsing on itself acts as a 1-use high-emergency super shock absorber break, true, you might need to buy a new car... but a man with his neck broken doesn't need a car, and that's what will happen to you without that emergency 1-use break.
@@tristanr7799 think about this. If you wanted to use a typewriter, you would need to have prefect English skills because if you make a mistake you cannot really undo your error. Almost everyone back then can read extremely well. Meanwhile most people today just mumble because we get all there information from the internet. Especially kids teenagers and young adults.
@@karenmarsh1067 not being rude i dont know if your trying to disprove me or anything because you said this without any context but i litteraly said it because he said he liked the voice and i commented. it was achieved from microphones back then because they distort the sound. all i said was the accents and the microphones combined sound way better then what we use today..
@@karenmarsh1067 Frankly, we write more than they did in the past. Illiteracy was still a considerable issue, but now the only illiterate people you'll find are those who don't know the language, toddlers, and maybe the very rare old and super poverty ridden fella. More frequent repetition leads to laziness.
@@AstrosElectronicsLab he's not making a rolls-royce, lol. but these vids can easily show you how to make a simple motorized vehicle, like a crude ATV.
I like how UNREALISTIC the little model was. Watching the rear leaf spring freely slide through the spring hanger. Not connected at all. Fooled everyone so easily back then and I'm assuming all the 3,000+ people who commented on how great this video was didn't noticed it was b.s. either. LoL
This is an actually good ad I'd watch without skipping, I like the nostalgic ringing in the background which I didn't know was prevalent this early when TVs were made. This also shows how springs today in modern cars work which shows this technology is absolutely timeless. I wish more ads were like this, cheers m8s.
If this is just an advertisement, imagine east education use to be like. It's no wonder there deemed to be a generation that was ablento fix everything.
I love these. The problem is clearly identified and the initial proposed solution is slowly built upon in easy to understand steps until you end up with the real thing. It's also cool to hear how they talked so long ago, and how they describe things that seem so natural to us. "Slow motion photography" for example.
"guys we've come up with this great new suspension idea!!" literally all car companies in america: "nah, we'll just use these leaf spring things for the next 70+ years"
I imagine leaf springs were much cheaper, just like drum brakes. Not every car nowadays comes with cutting edge tech, as they shouldn't, lest everything be more expensive. For instance, realtime adjustable suspension as you would find in luxury cars and supercars is far superior, but unneeded for the masses.
@@malijames12 To add to the point, RAS also has other weaknesses. It isn't great at handling large load differences. It is exponentially more expensive to maintain as well. And it's not like leaf springs cannot be used in combination with shock absorbers to achieve a similar, if slightly less effective result.
Boss speakers created a great style of suspension. Though it was canceled due to being to heavy. I feel they had a great concept and should of just worked on their faults.
This ad actually makes me want to buy that car in this current age. They've really done an amazing job blending education and entertainment with advertisement. And also they made the concept easy to be understood by the masses. I wish we get get such type of ads in this day and age.
@LargeFarva Oh, we have the old fart, we haven't de-evolved since then, we have made great strides in terms of society, with Equal rights, Environmentalism, and technology
@@tullyman82 the notion of flying cars was retarded 60 years ago and is still retarded today. Every year there are millions of auto accidents and over 50,000 deaths just in the US. You really want these dumbfucks who cant put their phone down for 30 seconds flying machinery weighing thousands of pounds plummeting through the roofs of peoples homes? Flying cars will never be a reality. Scientifically they have been possible since the airplane has been around but like I said you cant have a bunch of dumbfucks flying around the sky.
@@Bennysol Using vertical space eliminates congestion, which eliminates many causes of accidents. Furthermore it's stupid to assume something is impossible because it's impractical today. The people of the past imagined a feature with pratical flying cars, which means cars that have enough safety features and energy efficiency to make them practical. Let me make one example of many possible: automatic parachutes coupled with light construction would prevent the cars becoming "thousands of pound plummeting through the roofs of peoples homes".
These old explanation videos are so much more educational and easier to understand, I’ve learned how a suspension work, how transmissions work, how differentials work and how to be a ww2 bomber gunner. Love it.
this proves that mechanical and physical models are easier to comprehend for students than computer models.even virtual reality softwares aim is to duplicate physical models.
no, stiffer suspension is safer because it's less likely to shift the weight around corners and send the car into a barrel roll, that was the issue 90's explorers had, suspension was way to soft for an SUV, explorers with slammed suspensions don't have this issue.
@@GamerGuy760 In the case of SUVs in the 90s it mainly depended on the car, some of them were really bad for rolling over with little warning from a combination of suspension and a very high center of gravity. Even if you were an expert driver it went from everything is fine to cartwheeling off the road instantly. Turned out they were only testing them at highway speeds on tracks with banked corners.
If they still made the commercials like this I would actually want to by the car, Now days they just say it's good but don't show you how and why it's good. If Chevrolet sees this, do this kind of advertisement again.
In the early 20th century, the word "car" usually referred to horse-pulled CARriages, or rail vehicles like streetcars & train wagons (boxcar, tank car, Pullman car, etc.).
The best of ever seen. My first studium was car mechanik ( Ford [ switzerland Zürich ] 1981 - 1985. After 4 Years vocational school i got my diploma. Long harder way, if they had shown us it to us like that, I'm sure they would have understood it more. Thanks for contribution.
Appreciate your shock absorbers people, I crossed the Gibb River Road and went up to the Mitchell Plateau along the way, all with no front shocks... It's really made me appreciate suspension
Hits different when an ad is well intentioned with the prime objective of educating the audience and not just marketing. Says alot about the society back then vs now.
The test they did after the shocks were added has the frame locked in place. If you pay attention, you'll see the addition of extra shadows coming down from behind the frame that wasn't there in previous demonstrations.
that and moving faster will smooth out the bumps as the car won't have time to fall back down between bumps, it would have still showed bumps at the same speed as previous tests. advertising fuckery is nothing new
@@Soken50 actually a test was done a few years ago about whether or not going faster makes the bumps smoother. They found that going faster over bumps is actually harder.
@@Nozerone Depends on the frequency, there is a sweet spot which they probably used where the bumps and spring of the car would harmonise. That's how ridges in slow areas are smooth at the correct speed and bumpy above or below the speed (up to the next sweet spot 1 harmonic higher).
@@martinshoosterman Not even. The explanation for the electronics going in cars is equally as complex, but companies dont want consumers knowing that because then their sheep fanboy consumers would see through their shit. Look at PC's and Xbox's
I was with it when he said the spring absorbed the bumps. But the bits that dampen the the motion of the springs are DAMPERS. As it was put to me, by a race car engineer many years ago, when I called them "shock absorbers" "Peter, those are dampers, the parts that absorb the shock are the springs". I never made that mistake again. 😊
Brilliant explanation and experiments. I guess I learnt more from this 10 min feature as compared to my Mechanical Engineering course of mechanical systems. Thanks for posting such informative and entertaining video.
I'm curious where someone would actually see a film like this back in the day. It's not the sort of thing you'd expect to see as a pre-roll before a feature film. Did they show it to potential Chevrolet customers in the showroom?
I've seen this in person on a 38 Chev coupe. Amazing the tech they were playing with considering the world started building cars 20 years prior to this
Imagine getting to do marketing, education, and engineering all at the same time.
And entertaining. More entertaining that modern advertisement.
@Steven Murphy Nah, not needed. Haha.
@@skyraider87 entertainment it's included in marketing, I guess
Imagine doraemon anywhere door 😂
@@vitorsodreviolao Not anymore, current day ads playing to the human mind so much it hurts to look at shit like grubhub ads
1938: When actual engineering was used to advertise to the consumers instead of just feels.
@@matthewlawton9241 There's that, but also car manufacturer's would rather their customers believe their car is a magic box, that they should never try to fix.
I just recalled an Renault Modus advertisement stating that this car is so trendy- fancy that even its shadow is colorful.... F' ing seriously???
I agree that advertising using feels is silly, however, I think most people simply aren't interested in the engineering. Instead I would like to see more openness and truthfulness about the performance of the product. E.g. Chevrolet models with these suspensions are 10% less bumpy than the competition or previous models.
but muh feelings...
Look up Edward Bernay's and "Public Relations" to find out why facts have no place in advertising!
These older videos are soooo much better than the new ones. No ads, no bullshit just explain in plain english and simple demonstrations. Simplicity is key.
Fun fact! The whole thing was an advert!
Idk most of the RUclips channels I watch are like that.. rexkruegar and chrisfix come to mind
And no diversity enforcement and Liberalism
@@totallysmooth1203 what
@@totallysmooth1203 ???
Forced to watch a 10 sec 2019 commercial in order to willingly watch a 10 minute 30s comercial
yeah and today's car commercials are just someone driving a car and a sunrise
Should have shown the benefits of a car instead of showing some people in the car
@@topazprism77 idiocracy is coming.
I'm sick of it too.
Adblocker.
Old time commercials doesn’t just make me wanna buy it’s gives me trust and respect towards what they sell.
yea unlike you Nook... 100,000 for a whole house, but 1million for an attic...
Because they teach you somthing
This wasn't really a commercial, per se. It was short subject, probably shown at trade shows etc
It was a public demo, which is useless now since people care about looks and costs.
@@عبدللهبنعبدلله-ن8و However 99.9% of us are neither Muslim or Islamic Sir....! Why comment such a thing?
The only commercial which you won’t skip.
Yup
yeah i love ads that teach and not just say the product is good with an african american woman with an afro in it
@@TheTroll10 huh 💀
Yep. Didn't click dislike and dont reccomend on this one.
If commercials today were made today like they were yesterday, people wouldn't be so stupid. The United States would still be the leader in manufacturing.
show these videos in middle school ans get kids interested in engineering again.
As a midle schooler I can say that it got me intrested
Kids are still interested in engineering what are you on about
They really are very good at explaining the basic function and principles of these things. Y'know, before we engineered the crap out of them and made them dauntingly complex.
Let's make engineering great again!
@@WoodLard not in America. China produces 8 times as many science, math, engineering and technology related graduates as we do.
"the sky itself will be our moving strip of tracing paper". No modern marketing guru could beat that. Pure gold.
There’s just a certain poetic flow to early 1900s American English that has been lost to time.
@@samfish90212 agreed. The way they spoke had a certain unique flow to it. It’s a shame there are not advertisements like this now.
@@chocohouse4147 it's called the transatlantic accent, and they use it because microphones were shit back then so they have to talk a certain way to make it actually audible.
i guess "lost to time" here is more or less "increasing microphone quality"...
@@mizuki4002 oh wow, thanks for the information! That's really interesting! I was talking less about how they were talking and more about the style of the advertisement (eg. Actually explaining things to their customers).
Yep, the voice and the way he speaks is amazing
I am literally blown away by the intelligence of the ppl back then and their editing. For as old as this I swear this stuff is more entertaining than today’s commercials by a lot.
...true that
I LEARNT HELL OF A LOT MORE ABOUT SUSPENSION IN THESE 9 MINUTES THAN MY ENTIRE PAST LIFE
i guess u haven't seen many suspension stuffs as you think
@@VideoAulaslo not many but only those some, which everyone often returns to, after watching and rejecting many
Maybe the next thing you'll learn about is your Caps Lock key?
@@mediapc4747 if u carefully observe, i have already learnt abt it in my latest comment
moreover the caps lock was intentional as a way to show my LOUDNESS and shouting out of sheer enthusiasm which u may see it as childish over-enthusiasm because i am still 2 weeks away from becoming 4 yrs old......if u have more questions i wud be happy to answer them
I DO NOT BELIEVE HUMANS LIVE MORE THAN ONCE. WHAT DO YOU MEAN FELOW HUMAN. PLEASE STOP YELLING IN THE COMMENTS
The way this is presented makes it extremely easy to understand, and it feel as if a secret art has been lost.
@Marcus Tullius True in some cases, but try to explain how a klystron works to an average Joe
@@mzflighter6905 I mean they also explained transmissions really well. The key is to explain very basic principles first as opposed to explaining what it's based off of. The Transmission video had a short but sweet section about levers before explaining the function of a transmission and how it works in regards to driving the car. Understanding that, we know how to move forward by starting simple and explaining how the technology works gradually. Instead of trying to sell me your technology in 2 minutes with little to no technical demonstration, sell it to me with your knowledge of how the thing works. They did it in 10 minutes.
I believe this film was created by the Jam Handy Organization in Detroit. They were the major marketing/educational provider for Chevrolet for a couple decades. Located on Grand Blvd, few blocks east of Woodward. You can still see one of their signs on a remaining bldg. I worked there in late 60's. Pretty much out of business by then. Prior to that it was a huge, creative business. Employed hundreds!
@@spicycharlez3780 Basically, the old gave way to the new. Old ways gave way to new ways. The old guys in charge were gradually replaced by new guys in charge. Society was changing faster than the companies were changing. At least that's how I see it today.
What is lost is the ability to explain basic knowledge.
No animation, no computers, but they made the presentation so perfect and professional...kudos
That made tommy gun more accurate, in a drive by
That was good for a laugh..
Hahahahahahahah i love you
Daniel Smith no i love u
Brilliantly funny, and may I say accurate because those Tommy guns were a bitch to fire.
T3A000
Who is Tommy? Was he a convicted cerial killer or is it a term for someone with a gun?
"Rebuildable, last Forever ..."
Words we no longer hear today.
True and educational aswell
Rebuilding takes considerably more time than replacing. It you pay a mechanic $100 an hour to work on your car and he removes, rebuilds and puts back your suspension it takes many hours and costs a lot of money. If he removes and replaces your suspension it is much quicker and therefore costs less money. Consumer greed has caused the throw away society we live in. If people were willing to pay for quality work then that's what would be on offer
@@tddup657 lol. paying someone for suspension work is for idiots. i do that shit myself.
@@MrSGL21 yeah but would your mum or grandma? Not everyone knows how, has time or physically can
@@tddup657 my grand mother is dead. fixing moms car is mine and my fathers job.
I never really stopped to think how a suspension system works. I absolutely love how this teaches the basics, without making it sound dumbed down. I love this!!!
No computer graphics, no high-tech presentation, just a simple model and far easier to understand than anything we have today.
Edgy
You can make an easy to see model today, but for actual purposes that would be stupid to use since you'd have to sacrifice the ability to fully show it.
Because education system sucks.
Practical effects and models are great! 👍🏻
Greg Davis still cinema tricks tho. They bolted the frame to the background in the shock absorber part to amplify the results
Dude... these people were so much better at teaching back then. Ridiculous how visually informative this is compared to todays methods of "Pay us first and we'll drip feed you useful knowledge every so often".
“…after you sign here. Don’t mind the fine print or those clauses. You are like family to us.”
Lead is responsible for basically halving the intelligence of people
@@jimsmith3715 Yeah that's also true. Between 1930 and 1978 the whole world lost enough "iq poins" to be classified as retarded based on the previous counting system, in over 95% of the cases. Then they covered it up and changed the calculations, but the.trith remains, we are phisically significantly dumber than people a century ago strictly due to lead
@@jimsmith3715 people getting smarter or stupider is not any reason to make shittier educational videos
idiots were drag racing cars to their tombstones back then
I love how these videos go from basic things to more complex things
Every time I watch these videos I feel like I achieve enlightenment.
Yep
👍
When they actually explained why there car was better and demonstrated it, other than just telling you that it's good.
Was about to say the same thing.
Just. SoManyCups Ya but todays cars can have have moon roofs and bluetooth... Duh.
Agreed I wish ads treated the viewer not like a moron and explained why there product is good with evidence and then let’s you decide rather than saying it’s good
@@SpeedyMC14 couldn't have said it better myself.
Just. Scout with autism here thanks :)
These Jam Handy films are just pure advertising gold. They are also highly informative!
”Bump leveling device”
Why did this not become the official term for suspension?
Vocabulary back in the 30's up to the 50 late 60's is very simple and isn't that complicated but today there are too many words for all the thing-a-magigers we use on a daily basis. You feel put on the spot when it comes time to talk about mechanics but back then everything was simple.
@@user-zv8qg1co4z Good example right there kep.
"System" instead of "Device" maybe. you see, suspension is a made of a combination of multiple things working together to remove that pain in your ass!
Simple it's a device and it's name is "suspension" understood?.
@@ryansolomon5083 That's because we need a standart to talk with. Not standardized vocabulary creates a lot of problems in terms of comunications, and since we are talking about things that are produced in billions there is a lot of communication involved in making, fixing and selling these things. I agree that it's much simpler to describe a device by it's function, but when you have quite a few modifications of the same device that diverces in the principles and aplications it's quite a hassle to describe it each and every time.
1938:nah
2019:let's recommend this to everyone!!
RUclips's algorithms were a lot less advanced back in 1938. I'm glad they've kept improving.
@@namewarvergeben i agree
you do realize youtube wasn't around back then, right? i swear people get stupider every day
@@dirt_rooster36 tell me you're also joking :P
@@dirt_rooster36 it's a joke stupid
This video was may be old but that old engineering principles are using nowadays as a trend.
Once again Thank you for this video.
I love these models. I would keep it on my desk and play with it all day.
Saaaame
Saaaame
You both need jobs 😂😂
@@DefinitiveMedia22 Jobs have desks.
I love this kind of didactics, too! :)
good way of explaining basic suspension purpose
@MetraMan09 smoother that a lot of cars now a days at such roads
Because it has very soft springs. Today cars are designed to be very smooth on straight asphalt while having good handling. Off road vehicles have soft springs and slow dampening to absorb more but the handling at high speed is compromised. There's always a trade off.
That's a point...
This was the video I watched back then is the reason I am now an Automotive Engineer. i'm glad I got to see it again today.
When the 1900s has better suspension then my current car.
I hope this is a joke, because this is literally one or the most common suspension setups on modern cars lmao.
@@Cozzy-Wozzy no. I think they mean their suspension is so worn out that this absorbs the bumps Bett.
@@Cozzy-Wozzy actually, old cars are significantly softer and more conventionally comfortable on large bumps. The reason modern cars feel bumpier is a combination of stiffer chassis, and the necessity for better vehicle control. Old cars handle like SHIT, but they are very comfortable over potholes and bumps. They had to be changed for the better of safety and handling and thus sacrificed conventional comfort
@@blanchbacker yeah have you seen the safety comparisons between older and newer cars, it’s insane how much safer cars are now
Just use 62 Impala and today's Impala you'll feel the difference...OLD IS GOLD
In 1995 when I took my ASE Course in Suspension and Steering we watched this very video. Kinda cool seeing again a lifetime and a career later!
This is a really good and informative video, despite being so old.
Wow
I learn so much from these old videos. It’s cool to see the creative approach they took to demonstrate these topics without the aid of computers and graphics.
1938 - let's make comfortable cars so you don't feel the bumps in the road
2019 - let's make "sporty" cars with hard seats and low profile tires so you can feel every bump in the road
I don't think that this is from 1938
Because video is so clear
@@namaloompakistani1768 It is.
@@namaloompakistani1768 I believe it's film, which can be reasonable clear when converted to digital.
they did sporty cars back then as well. But for racing.
Sporty cars are less comfortable but can handle load better when cornering etc to stay level and keep traction
Softer suspension makes the car more prone to shift its weight too much left and right wich prevents it from cornering fast.
Also sporty cars are more fun to drive bc they are more reactive and stable under heave load like braking, accelarating and turning. So they are more safe and faster when racing.
@@TheInsaiyan except for my bmw e92, that thing suffers from severe brake fade ever since i got those rotors
Those good old days, when theory was complimented by practical on hand knowledge.
Well , it is one of the best videos I have seen.
A lot of content is bands on stuff, you just need to look in the right places. There is theoretical demostrations and hands on demostrations all over youtube.
@@Radnugget where for example?
In this video I have got the much more awareness on car suspensions, thanks for the perfect explanation about Chevrolet Suspension. With this I got a clear idea on the working principle of car suspension.
Thank you. 👍
The narrator spoke in a language you can UNDERSTAND! lol
Well, foreigners can't if they don't understand english.
@@soing. Then they need to learn.
Yeah one of the rare videos I didn't need to click that cc button !
He is speaking the language of the gods
??? I don’t understand
This is an awesome video! I wish they still made videos like this! I am an engineering student that has taken dynamics and vibrations. We are using all these new sensors as our pen and paper, but something about this low tech testing is just awesome! I could not stop smiling while watching this video. Thank you for sharing it with the world! =)
Could you please answer a small question.
I'm mounting a very heavy engine in my truck, it weights 1600 lbs . It will be "over" the front wheels. The most straightforward method is a leaf spring solid front axle. How stiff should my leafs be? And how far up or back from the springs should the engine sit for the most comfort.
Are you familiar with the suspension system that Citroen used?
so did you mount that engine buddy?
@@theq4602 You should ask the man at Walmart. They have a computer at Walmart with a calculator and they can fix it too.
@@Bady89-lg9sn I can do Navier-Stokes equations. Grandma taught me when I was 7. Now they teach people at Walmart and Kroger.
I love the ending. 10 outa 10 commercial. Pure education and very well made. Funny too❤
Old Chevy ads is much better than real people toolbox drop test
Johnson Jackson real actors not people
I guess I need an upgrade! (Forced laughter.)
Lol, that commercial was fuckin stupid.
@@jefferybauduin2919 not people actors real
they need to learn from mistakes
I've gotta give my respect to engineers and developers who found all of this out and applied it to the motor industry
Genius representation, simple but clear.
1940's ads: educational and entertaining.
Modern ads: *idiotic scam*
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This one simple trick can remove eye bags (do this everyday)!
Are you an idiot who can’t make a pancake? Then try this silicon pancake holder that literally just makes flipping them over a bit easier! Only $19.99!
To be honest, I blame consumer attention span. They want something that grabs them, holds them for 10 seconds, and then leaves. I have to punish myself because I'm starting to fall into that gap.
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I love how this vintage video explains everything for ordinary people to understand. Now I know a thing or two about suspension system. Can't wait to learn more!😊
These old videos are real gold, how good they have showed step by step, even the complex things 🙂
7:00 "Strength and safety are of maximum importance."
Oh, do I wish that was the case now...
But its still the same though
Considering they didn't have airbags, seatbelts, or any type of crumple zones when this was made, safety is still the maximum importance.
Modern cars are 1000 times safer then 1930s cars
@Retro SEGA and More that may be true but a couple things to consider.
1. Traditional steel is very heavy, it isn't suited for all vehicle types and can also cause more deadly car on car crashes as there is more weight involved
And
2. While rigidity is great, the front area of the car must be able to more easily deform in order to act as a cushion. (Known as a crumple zone.) These crumple zones are a critical part of modern car safety, maybe even more so than airbags. (Even though those are very good as well)
Materials that are more suited for designing cars would be materials like aluminum, aluminum alloys, modern lightened steel, and in some cases even copper, and carbon fiber as they are all still tough while retaining a more lightweight body and chassis.
@@1mariomaniac sadly a lot of people, mostly old/old school folks have the mentality of unbreakable=better, it is true that old cars you can crash them hard and some might just require tightening some bolts, maybe re-sync the timing bands and a good old-fashion paint job and off you go, yes that is good...
but most people ignore/don't know that the fact that your car collapsing on itself acts as a 1-use high-emergency super shock absorber break, true, you might need to buy a new car... but a man with his neck broken doesn't need a car, and that's what will happen to you without that emergency 1-use break.
This needs to be shown in school. So clearly executed and very easy for every single person to understand. These guys are geniuses.
This is one of the best presentations to understand how a car's suspension actually works, loved this video
I really like this guy's voice, he noe how to talk.
it was achieved by microphones that where bad in todays times but good back then i wish we could just use microphones from 1930-40s
@@tristanr7799 think about this. If you wanted to use a typewriter, you would need to have prefect English skills because if you make a mistake you cannot really undo your error.
Almost everyone back then can read extremely well.
Meanwhile most people today just mumble because we get all there information from the internet.
Especially kids teenagers and young adults.
@@karenmarsh1067 not being rude i dont know if your trying to disprove me or anything because you said this without any context but i litteraly said it because he said he liked the voice and i commented. it was achieved from microphones back then because they distort the sound. all i said was the accents and the microphones combined sound way better then what we use today..
@@karenmarsh1067 Frankly, we write more than they did in the past. Illiteracy was still a considerable issue, but now the only illiterate people you'll find are those who don't know the language, toddlers, and maybe the very rare old and super poverty ridden fella. More frequent repetition leads to laziness.
"he noe how to talk", It's to bad we can't spell anymore, our time is so precious we can't bother with spelling correctly anymore.
Chevrolet 1938: Let's make a car that's smooth!
Dodge 2018: Let's make a car that does wheelies!
Bit wheelies are fun! And the Dodge Challenger Demon is literally a street legal drag car.
Both are positives, the real challenge is getting the car to do both
This is too much educational now i know where car suspension made and the design eas getting inproved i love science...
OK! get my money! Where can i buy this car with this new technology??
Probably in some american pick-up. Like the ones that woble and shit. Amazing stuff.
Toyota showroom, where else amigo?
@@fidelcatsro6948 "Toyota showroom"
Its made by chevrolet not toyota please change it
@@fidelcatsro6948 rip
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The fact that I will eventually know everything I need to be able to build my own car from scratch
Well, not exactly, lol. There's a LOT of math involved.
@@AstrosElectronicsLab he's not making a rolls-royce, lol. but these vids can easily show you how to make a simple motorized vehicle, like a crude ATV.
I like how UNREALISTIC the little model was. Watching the rear leaf spring freely slide through the spring hanger. Not connected at all. Fooled everyone so easily back then and I'm assuming all the 3,000+ people who commented on how great this video was didn't noticed it was b.s. either. LoL
This is an actually good ad I'd watch without skipping, I like the nostalgic ringing in the background which I didn't know was prevalent this early when TVs were made. This also shows how springs today in modern cars work which shows this technology is absolutely timeless. I wish more ads were like this, cheers m8s.
If this is just an advertisement, imagine east education use to be like. It's no wonder there deemed to be a generation that was ablento fix everything.
Actually, I'm seeing this for improving my English listening skill. this has also fun.
Whatever nerd
Nice!
Good luck
same
Excellent. This fellow speaks with the Midwestern accent and clear enunciation that became common among airline pilots in the 70s.
I love these. The problem is clearly identified and the initial proposed solution is slowly built upon in easy to understand steps until you end up with the real thing.
It's also cool to hear how they talked so long ago, and how they describe things that seem so natural to us. "Slow motion photography" for example.
"guys we've come up with this great new suspension idea!!"
literally all car companies in america: "nah, we'll just use these leaf spring things for the next 70+ years"
And then they wonder why only Americans buy their cars
I imagine leaf springs were much cheaper, just like drum brakes. Not every car nowadays comes with cutting edge tech, as they shouldn't, lest everything be more expensive. For instance, realtime adjustable suspension as you would find in luxury cars and supercars is far superior, but unneeded for the masses.
@@malijames12 To add to the point, RAS also has other weaknesses. It isn't great at handling large load differences. It is exponentially more expensive to maintain as well. And it's not like leaf springs cannot be used in combination with shock absorbers to achieve a similar, if slightly less effective result.
Boss speakers created a great style of suspension. Though it was canceled due to being to heavy. I feel they had a great concept and should of just worked on their faults.
irs car companies: "bro, my car keeps wheel hopping in the back and i always breaks axles. HELP."
My GOD! What an amazing video! These people are really brilliant with the way they explain!
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This ad actually makes me want to buy that car in this current age. They've really done an amazing job blending education and entertainment with advertisement. And also they made the concept easy to be understood by the masses. I wish we get get such type of ads in this day and age.
old video but really informational
I know, man. I remember seeing these kind of films in shop class.
@LargeFarva Oh, we have the old fart, we haven't de-evolved since then, we have made great strides in terms of society, with Equal rights, Environmentalism, and technology
@swampStick TV *informative.
1969 :We gonna have flying cars by 2010.
2019 : Still scratching our heads for the level of invention in 1938.
We would have had flying cars if we would stop being the world police.
@@tullyman82 the notion of flying cars was retarded 60 years ago and is still retarded today. Every year there are millions of auto accidents and over 50,000 deaths just in the US. You really want these dumbfucks who cant put their phone down for 30 seconds flying machinery weighing thousands of pounds plummeting through the roofs of peoples homes? Flying cars will never be a reality. Scientifically they have been possible since the airplane has been around but like I said you cant have a bunch of dumbfucks flying around the sky.
@@Bennysol Using vertical space eliminates congestion, which eliminates many causes of accidents. Furthermore it's stupid to assume something is impossible because it's impractical today. The people of the past imagined a feature with pratical flying cars, which means cars that have enough safety features and energy efficiency to make them practical. Let me make one example of many possible: automatic parachutes coupled with light construction would prevent the cars becoming "thousands of pound plummeting through the roofs of peoples homes".
@@Overt_Erre how old are you? Go get your pilots license first before you start talking about flying a car.
@@Bennysol If i can fly a drone i can fly a modern flying car. It's not supposed to be a cessna.
These old explanation videos are so much more educational and easier to understand, I’ve learned how a suspension work, how transmissions work, how differentials work and how to be a ww2 bomber gunner. Love it.
It's amazing to see the development stages of this whole thing.
I learned more from this than the past two years of science class.
After watching the all videos of your channel i have become a Mechanical Engineer!! 😁 ThAnku so much
When Roads in 1938 are in better condition than 2019.
this proves that mechanical and physical models are easier to comprehend for students than computer models.even virtual reality softwares aim is to duplicate physical models.
These old videos explain things so well.
Damn that's such a good ad not just that it teaches you how the wheel suspension works but encourage you to buy Chevrolet
Yes if this was a modern car, i would really think about buying it!
Now we want stiff suspension that feels everything in the road so we can get more speeding tickets
no, stiffer suspension is safer because it's less likely to shift the weight around corners and send the car into a barrel roll, that was the issue 90's explorers had, suspension was way to soft for an SUV, explorers with slammed suspensions don't have this issue.
@@RingoYote cause your not supposed to fly into a corner doing 65...
Sam well yeah if they are slammed that a little different
RexToTheMax depends on the car, the road, the weather, and most importantly, the driver.
@@GamerGuy760 In the case of SUVs in the 90s it mainly depended on the car, some of them were really bad for rolling over with little warning from a combination of suspension and a very high center of gravity. Even if you were an expert driver it went from everything is fine to cartwheeling off the road instantly. Turned out they were only testing them at highway speeds on tracks with banked corners.
That step-by-step illustration makes the whole clip a must watch even for those who never stepped into a Physics class
If they still made the commercials like this I would actually want to by the car, Now days they just say it's good but don't show you how and why it's good. If Chevrolet sees this, do this kind of advertisement again.
8:20 "the motorcar" I like that term
Austin Lee mostly crossover
In the early 20th century, the word "car" usually referred to horse-pulled CARriages, or rail vehicles like streetcars & train wagons (boxcar, tank car, Pullman car, etc.).
The best of ever seen. My first studium was car mechanik ( Ford [ switzerland Zürich ] 1981 - 1985. After 4 Years vocational school i got my diploma. Long harder way, if they had shown us it to us like that, I'm sure they would have understood it more. Thanks for contribution.
Appreciate your shock absorbers people, I crossed the Gibb River Road and went up to the Mitchell Plateau along the way, all with no front shocks... It's really made me appreciate suspension
Love these old videos. Really liked the lever/transmission one.
Finally a channel with entertainment and information about Automobile engeenering. Loved it ❤
I learned more from this video than during 9 years in school.
@jemimallah Or the (I'm assuming american) school system is so much of a failure that videos made more than 70 years ago are more educational.
I love me some driving on the "rodes" with the "hweels" of my "motocar".
Are you spoking yet
@@RobotsEverywhereVideos Oh, man, you have no idea how hard I'm spoking
mmm *yes* Transatlantic language is perfect
These educational movies are pure gold. I watched another one about differential transmissions so good that even a child can grasp the basic concepts.
I love these old car films
Great explanation :) The process of problem solving is amazing.
Man, these short films put education in the "educational film", quick, to the point and very easy to digest.
Even though it's complex engineering they manage to explain it so well
Almost mistook this as marriage counseling. Sounded like he was saying "the bitching, and the ups and down are eliminated."
Oh god no.
He said "pitching... the pitching..." LMAO
You should always have a soft spring for your hard cross beam to achieve a comfortable ride!
Hits different when an ad is well intentioned with the prime objective of educating the audience and not just marketing. Says alot about the society back then vs now.
The test they did after the shocks were added has the frame locked in place. If you pay attention, you'll see the addition of extra shadows coming down from behind the frame that wasn't there in previous demonstrations.
But i think that last footage is quite real. Old cars (at least in Czechia (Škoda)) are way more comfortable than modern ones...
that and moving faster will smooth out the bumps as the car won't have time to fall back down between bumps, it would have still showed bumps at the same speed as previous tests.
advertising fuckery is nothing new
@@Soken50 actually a test was done a few years ago about whether or not going faster makes the bumps smoother. They found that going faster over bumps is actually harder.
@@Nozerone Depends on the frequency, there is a sweet spot which they probably used where the bumps and spring of the car would harmonise.
That's how ridges in slow areas are smooth at the correct speed and bumpy above or below the speed (up to the next sweet spot 1 harmonic higher).
Draggon Reaper yup noticed the same thing
You won’t see instructional videos like this today. They remove the mystery and show what is inside the black box. “Look, it’s not magic”
You can't share business secrets. This is in every car today so its "safe" to share.
@@Herbertti3 it was also a commercial so it was safe to share then too
this is fake get your head outta your ass
The reason is things today are a million times more complicated than they were 80 years ago.
@@martinshoosterman Not even. The explanation for the electronics going in cars is equally as complex, but companies dont want consumers knowing that because then their sheep fanboy consumers would see through their shit. Look at PC's and Xbox's
man, i always learn so much from these 80 year old chevy commercials.
Truly genius stuff, an excellent procedural look at the evolution of suspension systems.
I wish teachers would use this kind of videos during quarantine
I’m only watching this because of school.
This is not a commercial. It is a basic engineering course. Great tuition material.
I was with it when he said the spring absorbed the bumps. But the bits that dampen the the motion of the springs are DAMPERS. As it was put to me, by a race car engineer many years ago, when I called them "shock absorbers" "Peter, those are dampers, the parts that absorb the shock are the springs". I never made that mistake again. 😊
I mention that in my new post...the DAMPENING effect with shock absorbers..
when Chevrolet company teaches you better than school
The fact that i was able to stay entertained throughout the whole ad is amazing i feel like that has been lost today 😔
I love how detailed these models are, all the parts down to the tiny joints, super neat!
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This guy narrated every commercial and movie in those years!!!
Brilliant explanation and experiments. I guess I learnt more from this 10 min feature as compared to my Mechanical Engineering course of mechanical systems. Thanks for posting such informative and entertaining video.
I'm curious where someone would actually see a film like this back in the day. It's not the sort of thing you'd expect to see as a pre-roll before a feature film. Did they show it to potential Chevrolet customers in the showroom?
Probably for an exposition. These seems like films they would play on repeat to show people how cars work.
Dam, didn’t expect such a good explanation. We’ve lost a lot in this new social media age.
I've seen this in person on a 38 Chev coupe. Amazing the tech they were playing with considering the world started building cars 20 years prior to this