R.E.M. talk Everybody hurts, resisting Donald Trump and getting back together
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Michael Stipe and Mike Mills of R.E.M. talk to Channel 4 News about what inspired their biggest singles, the reason why they are rising and resisting against Trump and whether they'll be getting back together to create new music.
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The both communicate so well and articulate themselves intelligently.
They really do. The two Mikes have always seemed to be warm, wonderful people. Peter, eh, not so much.
Rush Austin How do you think Bill Berry seemed? I like all 4 of them.
@@RushAustin I agree with you about Michael and Mike I think Peter seems Riley Nice just more of a straight Talker Just out of interest how do you think Bill Seems? I think he seems like a Really nice a laid back person
How dare rock stars have opinions about politics. Everybody knows crappy reality stars are the only celebrities allowed to have political opinions.
It's fine when they have opinions. It's obnoxious when they're paraded around by the left. These guys are very clear that they have opinions and that they're not supposed to be taken anymore seriously than you or I.
Sort of like Ted Nugent and Kid Rock are paraded around by the right? ;)
At a much, much smaller scale, sure. When's the last time you heard Kid Rock being asked to do anything by a politician? Think back to when Hilary thought she had a shot. How many celebrities came out to support her on all sorts of media? This whataboutism doesn't really work in your favor, especially when things are so clearly lopsided toward the left in this celebrity worship bullshit.
I stay outside of political tribalism, so I don't have a dog in the fight. That said, there is will be "bias" one way or another in certain mediums or social circles.
As I say, the reason you don't see many conservative in the arts is the same reason you don't see many liberal truck drivers or oil rig workers. Studies increasingly indicate people tend toward a "liberal" or "conservative" thought process by nature -- in other words, differences in brain function.
There's nothing intrinsically wrong with either -- we need both, and ideally, they compliment one another. We need liberal minds to drive things forward, and conservative minds to keep them stable.
But, sadly, contemporary society has politicized this, and split us into political tribes.
Those are my thoughts.
"That said, there is will be "bias" one way or another in certain mediums or social circles."LOL. Yes, and the "bias" lib media prevents or twists what the right says or does. No matter what they do/say, the media labels it racist, homophobic, misogynistic etc, even when it clearly isn't. It's just a quick and easy way for the libs to silence those who think or act differently than themselves. But please don't think it's "one way or another" with both sides.
When I was younger - I didn't really understand REM.......Now I do......and I love them. Thank you REM
Same here, I never got them when I was a kid & I’m ashamed to say they were over my head back then lol, but I realize now they are on a whole other level of intelligence & cool & other then the beautiful melodic hits that are continuously played on radio, l forgot how much they actually truly rock! But again, they rock with intelligence, very please to finally have discovered R.E.M.
Why has everyone in the comments got their knickers in a twist? Why can't they talk politics? they are citizens who have every right to talk politics same as the rest of us! If you don't want to listen to their opinions then don't watch the video, it's in the title!
TRUEEEEEEEEEEEEEe
@ figuring it out,
I agree 100%. Something tells me though that you wouldn't be saying that if it was James Woods or Chuck Norris talking.
EXACTLY! Most of their music was about politics and people lose their mind when they speak about it.
Of course, you agree so you are so open-minded. If their politics were different you would be bitching nonstop. Boring already.
If you are surprised these guys are into politics, then I guess you should have read their lyrics from year one. They have always been into it.
Everybody's butt hurt, all times...
Especially Michael's.
These guys are ridiculous
@@ufarkingicehole If Rem are ridiculous to you, why are you whaching this video?! Rem fans don't care about what you think of this band.😊
@@patriziabaschiera9004 I love to read the insane responses from insane REM fans 3😟😭😭
Patrizia Baschiera why is none of your business and you can’t deny that they are never happy
They do have something to be very proud of, made such a huge mark. And had an amazing ride.
Mike and Michael seem to be very humble and loyal to each other, I bet they have very good friendship chemistry based on that foundation, Michael looks like he is getting agitated of krishnan also ha
I feel like being friends with Michael would be quite taxing.
Sam Love 😂 Ya great music but I wouldn’t bother.
Perhaps, but you could have some great conversations about music, politics and I’m sure many other things. He seems like a very bright, well spoken person.
I bet he frequently sends back soup in restaurants.
Sam Love taxing, maybe, and totally worth it.
@Richard Peck its hilarious that marches and protests have been reduced to looking :"hip" and not getting results
You know, I really dont care about their politics, in fact I am very happy they have a different opinion and view as I do. Those differences allowed me to enjoy so much good music. That those differences, influenced. I appreciate our differences.
I CAN'T STAND this interviewer. Why do people agree to an interview with him? I don't get it.
Because the interviewer is more famous than the band?
Because he's brown. If you don't grant the interview, you're racist.
The interviewer is always awefull
@@robertciscoe9318 you're funny
He’s an Oxford graduate. So despite his interviewing skills, I suppose he’s meant to be smart. If you’re referring to the Tarantino and Robert Downey Jr. interviews, then yes those did not go well! Especially the latter one where RDJ walked out.
Song saved my life. So glad it came to me.
Always loved their music despite their lefty politics. As a libertarian, I welcome all forms of discourse - even from people I disagree with such as folks like REM.
Agree completely.
I love you Michael, I love you & what you do! 💘
All he "does" now is act the part of a bitter old man.
Love Rem, their music is amazing.. that said, sadly their politics is terrifying!
Mike Mills skipped middle age. He looked like a 12 year old back in the 80's and 90's and now he looks like an old man.
I met a reliable source who lives in Athens, GA and she said that he'll come into a club with a young girl on each arm (probably prostitutes) that are young enough to be his granddaughters. Shows you what fame will get you that and becoming the bubble boy.
I saw REM in Serbia, they start the anti American rant and people were quiet. He voted for Clinton, the president that bombed Serbia, Clinton sided with NATO and bombed a city full of civilians. Then has the audacity to offer an apology for a president that he voted for. Michael Stipe doesn't like any politics that he can't dictate. Way before Trump,way before Obama. He protest for the sake of looking involved. Great band but I personally don't pay to hear the people talk bullshit politics. He hates any administration that he doesn't agree with. Struggling, these two have more money than the city they live in and the are pretentious pricks.
I never understood why these guys supported Clinton since I know what has happened to Serbia while he was in office. My parents are from a town in Republika Srpska and no one there thinks fondly of the US because of what they did to Serbia.
15:08 "Can we talk about 'Everybody Hurts?" Mike: giggles. Michael: blank stare.
the holy trinity of lyricists dylan, morrissy, stipe
idrathernot I would ascribe to a monotheistic non trinitarian view in this regard and just place Mozza on his own.
I would not place stipe in the same group lol. Have you read his lyrics, theyre stupid.
Except for some ballads :)
I love REM. Please get back together. Your fans and there are many miss you.
All 208 of them?
I love iT how annoyed Michael stipe is with the interviewer
Michael had my vote since he appeared many years ago. Trump is the most waste of time I've ever seen in politics
Michael Stipe is a glowing example of what will bring down America. Privileged, yet owned. Incessant bitching..
@@buckhart8500 Absolutely and I'm an R.E.M. Fan
@@buckhart8500Privileged yet owned? Spoken like a true Maga moron. Privileged? Well he's a superstar. Owned? He's vehemently opposed to the pathologicaly lying bloated orange grifter. He's not owned. He's ENGAGED. BIDEN 2024. Vote blue.
The day i look to R.E.M. for anything other than tunes will be my saddest day.
Michael is much more handsome with the closely-cut beard.
Beardist
Gay? Because he is flaming.
I love you Michael, I love you & what you do! 💘
"Drive" is my favorite R.E.M. song.
The both communicate so well and articulate themselves intelligently.
I've loved these guys since 1985. Never agreed with them once, but I love them still.
"He won't even finish this term." More denial.
Anyone that is surprised by ANYTHING in this interview OBVIOUSLY never bought an REM album back in the day. They ALWAYS voiced their political opinion in their music.
Exactly!!!
Sorry guys you’re wrong about trump
I have no idea why it’s such a crime to talk about politics no matter who you are. It’s distinctly a white American thing that politics is not be discussed, which is like saying food is not to be eaten. If you are a citizen, you ought to talk to your fellow citizens about what’s going on. They just so happen to have a way to talk to a lot of people at once.
Politics is the entertainment branch of government.
Citizen = Slave
www.1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/grandjuryrules.htm
Nothing wrong with talking about it but demagoguery is offensive so don't be surprised when is rubs people the wrong way.
They can talk about politics all they want I just don't want to hear it. As far as I'm concerned the money they got out of my pocket is for them to shut up and play music and make me feel good nothing more than that is relevant from them to me.
@@VanHellsing12 Paying an artist doesn't give you control over them, it relinquishes control. You put your trust in an artist that they will provide something substantial that warrants your patronage. If R.E.M. speaking their minds off stage makes you want to no longer contribute to their art, they don't really need you at this point. A band this good and convicted never did.
Rise and Resist?
Hmmm, sounds a lot like Refuse Resist.
How original.
Michael's sound intelligent and so funny. I just love him.
Quick correction. Brexit was not a minority vote. Only a 3.8% difference but was done by popular vote and there was a clear majority even from early on in counting.
Considering it demonstrated an utter lack of comprehension what it would trigger, with the amount of people fooled by the likes of Farage and other populists to vote for Leave, all it demonstrates is that the UK too can compete in sheer stupidity with anyone.
@@thebrainsurgeonotto6224 totally ignorant comment
It got a no vote in scotland
Their music is genius! But their politics are not so good ;)
Man, I love Stipe's dry wit -- "I mean, I watched him bound up and down stairs." I like his politics even more.
doesn't stipe seem kinda gay? i am sure he's not that would suck!
Stipe is openly bisexual -- not that it matters.
Wow Stipes eyes are dead...
please make some new music, its a shame your talent is not being displayed your sound is hugely missed. Tom Mc Sweeney Dublin Ireland
it's important to know when to stop.
There is something about Michael's eyes that reminds me of the eyes of Bill Murray.
If you don't like the way America is run....MOVE
"The top has never been this low." Sad but very true.
Really, you really think things are bad? You're delusional. Record low unemployment for christ's sake
Yep. When a major network stoops to doing REM interviews, truly the "top has never been so low".
@@crk140 Fred is probably upset that ISIS has been destroyed.
Richard Keyser Numbers can be deceptive. The so called “new jobs” are part time , low end, service sector positions. They are technically jobs, but not a living wage, Not all jobs are equal.
@@iggypopisgod9 that was2014, under Obama. Wages are actually moving up for the first time since2001.
"Drive" is my favorite R.E.M. song.
Mine is Wolves Lower
oh god this interviewer, why has he not been fired
precinct and long overdue observation. Thank you.
"What's the forward clock called?" "Clockwise." Love my boys.
Biden is a “very dark time in your country.” Hate to have to say the obvious.
Mike is spot on about the last three songs being the strongest part of the album (same goes for New Adventures...) and about Murmur still being their best work.
It makes me sad to see them aging. It reminds me I've aged as well.
was interesting to hear about what's happening in the world today. I think traveling around the world can give you a world view of humanity and where we are all at with it. it's important to share these insights to increase awarness of problems so we can get our heads together and see what can be done about it. love you loads keep up the good work but please don't suffer when the problems are bigger than you as it is impossible to take personal responsibility for them. Big kiss on your forhead X Isa
Why do I despise the reporter?
Was a great band, they lost me when they went to The left
Trump in 2020 baby!!!!!
brace for trump 2020 :)
Can we stop bracing yet???? 😂😂😂😂😂
I feel like the interviewer is struggling to come up with interesting questions...Looks like he doesn’t have any clue what the band REM is all about prior to this interview..
Now we have Biden. Are they happy now? I'd take Trump any day. Artist are dumber than rocks when it comes to Politics and the way things work. Michael is clueless with his judgement of Trump.
I loved their music until now, when I discovered how they distrust ( and probably hate) President Trump.
Arvo Part if that made you dislike their music, then you never liked their music at all.
Yeah because a good chief executive is one that is controlled by a racist, Marxist, apartheid, warfarist foreign government:
web.archive.org/web/20190618151103/fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2016/10/29/trump-controlled-by-mossad/
Bye bye Trump
I love REM I’m from Athens Ga during that time … but right now the world needs Trump more then we need REM…
My top 5 REM albums (for what its worth)
01. Monster
02. New Adventures in Hi-Fi
03. Up
04. Green
05. Automatic for the people
Nicky Styles I like the list. I’m
Automatic
Hi-Fi
Out of Time
Monster
Document
@@user-yq8sx2dh4k I like their was older stuff I think after monster they peaked.
1. Out of time
2. Monster
3. Automatic for the people
4. Document
5. Murmur
Blase choices I'd expect from a newb to REM
Chronic Town
Fables
Automatic
Green
Hi fi
Monster
I love REM's Music. I hate their whining though...year after year...after year...And oh yeah, they are Capitalists!
Their money stores they don't have to work hard for anymore makes them forget that they indeed are capitalists
Thank you for writing this song it’s saved me several times
This song destroyed two lives in Kansas City
I'm glad to see Michael out and about again.
One of the best bands ever love their songs and agree with most of their views !!...Keep rockin you guys
As I said in another interview of his. I don't necessarily agree with his views but I can respect that he comes across intelligent and as if he thought out his statements and I can respect that.
These guys are really on to something. Always loved Michael Stipe and REM.. This reinforces it. Keep speaking up guys! This is good stuff.
It amazes me how many people in here claim to be fans, yet seem so surprised by REM's political stance. If you know anything about this band at all, you'd know they'd never support a spiteful, narcissistic man-baby like Trump. Perhaps those of you upset by this revelation and in need of musicians whose politics match yours should go and watch some Ted Nugent videos instead.
I'm slightly right of center but was a big fan of REM. Conversely, I'm not a fan of Ted Nugent simply because I don't like his music.
Generally speaking I try not to consider an artist's political leanings. This is mainly for pragmatic reasons. I mean realistically, since most of Hollywood and the music industry is liberal, so for me to boycott their work would mean never listening to music or going to the movies again.
The only time it bothers me is when the artist lets the political nonsense overshadow their music (or film, etc.). For example, if I'm paying $100 or more for a concert ticket, I want to listen to music - i don't want to hear the musicians lecturing me from the stage. that's one thing i love about Willie Nelson. I love his music, and make it a point to go see him whenever he comes to Boston, and one thing I'll say is that even though he is a liberal, in the dozens of times I've seen him in concert, I have never heard him interject his politics into his show.
Why don't people ever have any actual criticism of President Trump? It's always vague remarks like "spiteful manbaby" which don't really say anything about his stance or policies.
Consider this: **rimshot**
Lowest black unemployment in history
Lowest Latino unemployment in history
Lowest Asian unemployment in history
Lowest female unemployment in 65 years
Lowest overall unemployment in 17 years
Highest consumer confidence in 18 years
Climbing GDP
Highest stock market in history
Got The US out of TPP
Got the US out of PCA
Renegotiated NAFTA for America's benefit
Demanding (and getting) other countries pay their fair share for America's contribution to their national defense
Denuclearization of North Korea as verified by inspections
SPACE FORCE
V.A. Reform
Much needed pay raise for our troops
There's much more good he has done...please say "Thank you, President Trump"
@@denmun9722 - It's almost like they have...an agenda....
@Richard Peck again, no actual criticism. TRUMP BAD !!! HE NASSSI!!! ORANGE BAD MAN BAD BECAUSE HE BAD BAD BAD.
When did trump scream at the sky? Lol
Thats right keep the status quo... easy to do when you live a thousand miles away in millionaires mansions... god how disapointed I am in you Mr Stipe and co.....
Well $80Million can rather isolate an ego and delude your believing that your opinion matters more than most, or at the very least, influences. It only influences the weak. Js
@@slydale agree, and as well he's always been a big egotist from jump street
Why aren't these 2 speaking of particulars and not just hating on the current President.
I see the russians are busy spreading their hate in the comments section
why you hating on the Russians ?
The Russians fooled you DimocRats into protesting the day after
President Donald Trump's Inauguration .... you guys are such sheep.
John You are lost!!!
I love REM’s music. I disagree with their political views. Assuming their beliefs are genuine, I respect their right to express them, just as I respect the rights of those whose views are considered politically incorrect or unpopular.
REM is a pop band so it stands to reason that they are expected to promulgate the pop narrative; lest they be de-platformed, blacklisted, and silenced like other celebrities who dared to question the establishment’s official narrative. It’s extremely risky to oppose the ruling class… particularly for entertainers. How many jester’s in history have had their head’s removed for offending the king?
Can you imagine what would have happened to REM had they publicly opposed the Democrat Party? REM ain’t stupid; they know their place in the pecking order.
Both of them have stated they are Bernie Sanders supporters. They support a socialist so I'm wondering if they would be ok with socialism in the music business. I wonder if they'd share their hard earned money with up and coming bands. Wouldn't it be fair for them to share their wealth? Or when they were touring did they split the ticket sales with the opening bands on their tour?
Mike and Mike, just remember that when you make strong political comments you are taking the risk of alienating half of your fan base.
Thank you, Michael & Mike! Love you guys, still fighting the good fight!! I am forever grateful for your music, and for giving some volume to our voices as they sometimes grow weary YAWPING in silence. Thank you for talking about compassion, with politics.
!!!!!!!!!! TRUEEEEEEEEEE
These guys were so great…before they started mailing it in, and brought Michael’s politics into everything
Listen to Ignoreland and tell me his politics weren't in his music for decades. You're ridiculous.
@@CaptainJimp not ridiculous- i think they started mailing it in right after automatic-in fact, my opinion is that the apex was document-and, yes politics was starting to creep in, but not like it did in the 90's....their stuff until document is awesome, but after the large contract (after leaving irs) really closed the door on them for me....before you come after me, be sure youre on solid ground.....have been a fan of these guys quite a long time....
The media is complicit ... you said it, brother!
Love REM, Trump 2024
Those of us who have punched a timeclock for a lifetime voted Trump in and we are the majority ................... or - shut up and sing
Mike Mills and Peter Stipe both are "limousine liberals."
@@droge192 who cares...point is accurate
I agree with much of their frustration and anger but they are out of touch. The working class does not like the far progressive left and the Democrats have really married that faction of the Party. Its unfortunate but I think Trump can get reelected based on most people I talk to liberal and conservative
I agree. Millionaire musicians and actors don't know what the average person who has to put food on the table and work constantly to just maintain really thinks and cares about.
Lol. You don't even have a "far progressive left" in the states, at least none that mattered in the political arena.
@@captainvideo1981And Trump does cos he's lived it poor.
These two fellows political opinions make about as much sense at REM lyrics.
Love their music...not a fan of their politics.
Me too, fan of their music...not so much of their politics.
TRUMP 2020. 👍🏻 shine the light.
I think Losing My Religion would be a better song, since I feel like, since Trump was elected, we all feel like we're losing our religion.
I don't agree with their politics, but I like their music.
Pablo Di Iorio You first Commie.
On 3...
a fascist who likes rem's music .. ok.
Josh Michelsohn I wouldn't even gas you.
such big talk from such a sad, scared, little man
"We shows up on the front lines." getting off their private jet and stumbling out of their limo. LOL, tools!
So easy for Rock Stars to disappear up Rectum Alley.
Zillionaire rock stars have no business speaking about anything pertaining to reality.
I adore them, looking forward to anything from them. Thank god
love the music, hate the socialism.
That makes zero sense. You have been brainwashed
Is the interviewer Martin Bashir?
Might as well be , but no Krishnan guru murthi is his name or something
That’s what I thought, too.
Dude this blew my mind. I've been seeing this dude for years and was convinced he was Martin Bashir!!!!
It's important to remember that (for the time being) the pace of progress in the Western world has been temporarily slowed and occasionally retarded by numerous movements that seek to promote exclusivity and prejudice. There have been many struggles across Europe and the UK which are similar in quality and property. One step forward, two steps back, is slightly better than three steps back (one step back.)
Room so dense in smug, I am surprised they can breathe.
As if the side they are pandering to isn't in control of just about everything. Brexit baby. Now. God bless the British people for telling these idiots to shove it.
The country is in better shape than it's been in 50 years. Screw these guys. If they believe so much in thier cause they should go ahead and donate all of their money and allow foreigners to live with them
Stick to music
I am French. It has taken me some time to understand the reasons of Trump's success. Despite the guy being savage (and I believe unlawful, but the impeachment is here to decide on it) there is a big trend, and not only in the US with SJW and excess thereof. But the democrats are not better, we must not take the world too naively.
That being said I love REM I respecy their opinions and agree because these are reasonable opinions respectfully expressed I have nothing against any sexual orientation. SJWs, feminists and so on must grow in their mind and really be more reasonable as well the must speak up, say hi, yes I am homosexual if they want, no problem, but not say that every word we say is oppressing.
Love their music not their politics!
Love REM but MAGA
Yes. This. We simply must rise and resist. It’s become a life and death struggle, particularly for historically marginalized social groups. The time is now.
Love rem, but resisting trump? Tells me you're part of the bilderberg conection
Actors and bands are entertainment. That's what draws your fans, your political views we don't want to hear unless we seek you out one to one. Your job is entertaining. Ron White lost me when he started making political statements, I came for comedy and not politics.
Michael and Mike's artistic brilliance combined with their political inclinations is a very valid argument for me that Trump is one of the worst things that have happened to US-American history.
A rock star that hates Trump. Who would have thought!?
Interviewer is lost I've seen him upset and completely lose other guests just walk off
Michael Stipe you remind me so much of Gord Downie, I wonder if you ever met?! He was a Canadian rock hero. He died this year, not so very long ago. He is greatly missed. He was only 52. I love you guys, REM.
I kind of doubt Stipe is reading the comment section of videos, babe.
JarOfRats: Who said he was, dude? Lol.
You, considering your comment was directly addressing Stipe. And, again, he'll never see it.
JarOfRats: A lot of us do that, we don't really mean it that way. Lighten up. I also wrote, "I love you guys, REM." You gonna jump on that too? You can. ;) Whomever the fack wants to read it or comment can and will.
Your school bus...it was a bit shorter than the others, no?
great music! the rest? not so much
Losing your Salt?
What a dreadful interview.
God the irony of that censorship beep. Incredible.
Rock on R.E.M., it's a pity your heyday was in the 80s/90s and not now. Where are the political bands now who try and and make people WAKE UP to what's going on? Don't bother replying that music stars should stick to music, Trump is a TV star who didn't stick to TV.
Maturin he should’ve stuck to tv and not destroy a country in a year
Maturin, anyone who needs a band to "wake up" to what the current events are is a simplistic fool, beyond redemption.
Music has always reflected a culture, a nation, the politics of the day......who is doing that now in popular music? Ed Sheeran? Stan Smith?
Who knew Resistance could be quite so profitable?
Do you disagree with the profit motive? Maybe you’re a communist after all....
I think the ones profiting off it while it lasts are brilliant. I made some money off it and I still support Trump!
Unlike Trump, these guys worked.