I have a 413G I picked up cheap at a garage sale 8 or ten years ago. It was in its original cardboard box, although one end of the box was in pretty sad shape. It has no date on the bottom, but the tabs on the fuel tank are stamped 2 69. The couple I bought it from used it on their honeymoon, put it away, and never used it again. When I got it home, I found a campground receipt inside for two nights at South Carlsbad Beach, CA, dated June 20, 1969. I stashed it away, and pretty much forgot it for years. But last week I dug it out and set it up on my covered front porch, to use for small-batch coffee roasting. Roasting coffee inside is a bad idea, unless you enjoy having the resulting black smoke stink up your carpets and drapes. Don't ask me how I know.... The leather on the air pump had dried. So I pulled it out and soaked it in olive oil for a few minutes, because that's what I had handy. The cork gasket on the fuel cap had crumbled, so I replaced it with a synthetic rubber O-ring. The O-ring was the right inside and outside diameter, but too thick to let the cap threads catch. So I held it between thumb and forefinger and shaved it down with a razor knife - and yes, I nicked my thumb doing it. A job isn't properly completed, unless you've offered the gods a blood sacrifice.... It works great, and actually gets my little Korean ceramic coffee roaster up to 500 degrees faster than my kitchen range did. By the way, the 413G stoves were designed to use either white gasoline or unleaded gas. It says so on the cardboard box, which I still have. But given the unreliable quality of gas station unleaded, the additives, and the fact that a little fuel goes a long way in these stoves, I'll stick with the white gas. There was only about a dollar's difference at Walmart between a gallon of Coleman brand fuel and another brand, so I figured what the heck and splurged for the Coleman.
I bought a 413G and a coleman lantern (model unknown) back around 1979-80. I wanted badly for my family to take me camping but unfortunately never got to and camping was soon forgotten as I took an interest in girls. My dad had put away my stove and I found it a couple of years ago. The tank is stamped 8/71, so just as old as me. Tried it out yesterday but keep getting high yellow flame despite following the instructions. Going to take the valve and generator apart to see if they need replacement parts. Thanks for posting your video.
Pump gas won't hurt the functionality of the stove. You'll just have to clean it twice as often. The additives in gasoline have a tendency to gum up the generator if you don't stay on top of the maintenance.
If you pre-heat up the steel supply tube that goes from the tank to the burner, then you can get rid of the orange flame quickly instead of waiting to see the blue. I use a propane torch and heat up the tube directly over the burner. It especially helps to do this trick when outside temperatures are cold. The hot tube will now atomize the fuel giving blue flame right away. I learned this after getting to many pans with black bottoms from the orange flames. Good Luck. Great American Engineered stove!
Just picked up a 413g at a yard sale today for $10 in mint condition. After watching this vid I realized I just scored!! Mine has the manual and sliding around the bottom was an unused pack of Richard Nixon matches....Lol, I love it! :)
I have inherited my Uncles old 413E Duel burner camper store. I used it a lot in the on camping trips over the years, and even in my house near an open window during a power outage. But for the last 12 years it has been stored in a dark close in a back bedroom. So now, with what's going on in the world, I'm trying to restore it. I have no idea when it was made as there is no date, but I'd say it was pretty old as I got it in 1978. So I'm busy watching videos for how to restore this thing. It's in pretty good shape except for the pump casket and the cap seals. So, I'll try to order those from Coleman. Thanks for the info.
Yes, you should have no problem restoring it. Most likely, all it needs is a new leather seal. You can get one on Amazon for a couple of bucks, it comes in a set with all you need. Enjoy it.
I just found my dad's Coleman 413 yesterday. I remember his cookouts when I was 17 ( in 1967) . Thanks for the great video! Well done. I'm looking forward to using it on our road trip coming up in June.
Unleaded burns fine. Try to find ethanol free, if possible. The lower the octane, the better. Less additives. I make no claims that it's food safe. Only that it burns fine. You MAY see more deposits in the generator but not significantly so. If you only use them occasionally, just go with Coleman Fuel or other camping fuel. It is very stable in storage. Pump gas is not. If you run them a lot, regular ethanol free unleaded makes sense. If you burn a gallon/year is it really worth the nasty, lingering gasoline smell when you spill some for a few dollars saved? And the additional attention to cleaning the tank before long term storage? Probably not. FYI the engineers at Coleman made up a lighting procedure for these. They had the wisdom to have it printed on the stove lid right in front of you. Try it. Follow it exactly. You can add more pumps if you like, just don't use less. If memory serves, it probably tells you to add more pumps as soon as it lights. Minimal flare ups, if any, when you follow the instructions on the lid. DO NOT "test" it by opening the valve without lighting it. THIS FLOODS THE GENERATOR and makes for big yellow flames. BAD IDEA! DON'T DO THIS! Here is a link to the manual: www.oldtowncoleman.com/manuals/413g.pdf Credit to Frank Bebb at Old Town Coleman. To light: Give it 50 full pumps. Lighting lever up. Aux burner off. Hold LIT lighter or match to main burner BEFORE you.... Open valve ALL THE WAY. Stove will light immediately. Add more pumps. Turn lighing lever down after one minute. Though it usually won't take that long. Bingo! No big yellow flames. Ready to cook in one minute or less. Try it, you'll like the results. To shut down: Turn the lighting lever up Let it burn for one minute to induce air and purge most of the liquid fuel from the generator. You should see the flame change to a darker blue and jump slightly off the burner and pulse a bit. Close valve Let cool before closing or packing.
Glad to be of help, buy one ASAP, it's the last stove you'll ever buy and serve you well. Also take a look at some of the older lanterns as well, the dual fuel ones.
Does your pump actually lock in place when you turn it to the right after you pump? I turn mine but it doesn't necessarily lock into place - i can still pull it out if I wanted to. If it's not supposed to do this do you think that would be an issue?
I use unleaded fuel and run a bottle of injector cleaner through it once in a while. I have one with the gold tank and it still works great...I use it frequently lately! Flame control is awesome when it warms up! Do not fill it all the way up! Fill it around half and it will last longer without more pumping. You can use your thumb to cover the hole and you only need to unwind the pump valve 1 or 2 turns...not like this guy does...it is obvious he is a rookie with all the city traffic in the background!
It will work on unleaded fuel, however it will need much more frequent maintenance because it will get fouled up, especially with all the additives. Since I don't use too often, I would rather use the camp/Coleman fuel.
Nice vids...... Walmart sells Coleman fuel around $12 /gallon also there's another brand called Crown white gas sold at Walmart. If you use unleaded fuel use ethanol free..... less additives than unleaded ethanol....the Crown fuel is around $7/gallon....
I do need to get some more, used it this last weekend camping and as always it preformed flawlessly. It still amazes me that after all these years it works as it should. Going to wally world this weekend, will stock up on a gallon, thanks.
@@ONBLASTWITHMG Here is my dilemma: There are two descriptions Coleman Provides, that I enumerated in my original comment. Currently, they make a model 414, and model 424 -- many retailers and sellers do not present these model #'s. I am presently bidding on a 413G on eBay. I would prefer to have the 12" capacity, but I cannot afford a new stove at ~$168! Please help, if at all possible! Thanks so much.
@@tkarlmann I'm not sure i have the exact info you're looking for. A 12" pan i do not believe would fit squarely on the burner without taking the wind deflector down. If you do that then it would fit. Maybe someone else can chime in
If I’m not mistaken sometimes the tank has a different stamp date than the stove suitcase. They can be different dates. Looks like you got a nice stove! I have two myself and love using them.
the date stamped on the tank tabs is the date the tank was made. the stove date is stamped on the bottom of the stove. if no date stamped on the bottom of three stove it is very early 70 ' or older
Great video, I have one of these I bought a few years ago. Going to try to fire it up. Happy Thanksgiving. You are almost to a Thousand subs. I am 985. Peace.
10 bucks for 1/2 gallon? that's 20 bucks a gallon...lol. Right now in my neck of the woods...unleaded gas is 1.69 dollars a gallon...lol. but still, I loved this video!
@@ONBLASTWITHMG well, I ain't no expert on these colemans...but so far I have good burns thus far with unleaded...yet, time will tell with the build up in the generator tube they say.
@@ONBLASTWITHMG The manual says you can use regular gas, but it will perform better with their brand of fuel. You might need to clean it more often with regular gas.
You're wrong. The 413G I bought at a yard sale was in its original box, and it says right on the box that it's dual fuel - even though the tank is red.
They are ALL dual fuel. This was just marketing. Long before there was "Coleman Fuel" the early Coleman stoves, and other brands too, had siphon pumps so you could fill your stove with gasoline from your car's tank. They run fine on unleaded, preferably ethanol free low octane, but they'll run fine on any quality gasoline. Generator life may be slightly shorter, but these are easy as pie to clean if you know what you're doing. I prefer running camp fuel/Coleman fuel due to it having far fewer additives and other engine friendly but not so food friendly stuff. And naphthalene is moth balls. Naphtha is white gas.
@@troystallard6895 Can you post a photo of that? I'd be genuinely interested to see it. What model year is that stove? They all ran on auto gasoline for decades before Coleman saw the potential in marketing their own ultra clean burning fuel. Decades later, they saw the marketing potential in selling a new camp stove to an already saturated market by labeling them as "Dual Fuel" and painting them a different color and making minor changes so the main parts for the old and new were not interchangeable without modifications.
@@mikemorgan5015 Not sure I still have the box, and there's no point in posting a pic of the stove. It's just a 513G, with a red tank. The bottom of the right tank hanger tab is stamped '2 6 9,' and a campground receipt inside the stove was dated June 1969.
Just yesterday I pick up a 425E that was stamped the year and month I was born. I guess it was made for me.
Cant get a blue flame
I have a 413G I picked up cheap at a garage sale 8 or ten years ago. It was in its original cardboard box, although one end of the box was in pretty sad shape. It has no date on the bottom, but the tabs on the fuel tank are stamped 2 69. The couple I bought it from used it on their honeymoon, put it away, and never used it again. When I got it home, I found a campground receipt inside for two nights at South Carlsbad Beach, CA, dated June 20, 1969.
I stashed it away, and pretty much forgot it for years. But last week I dug it out and set it up on my covered front porch, to use for small-batch coffee roasting. Roasting coffee inside is a bad idea, unless you enjoy having the resulting black smoke stink up your carpets and drapes. Don't ask me how I know....
The leather on the air pump had dried. So I pulled it out and soaked it in olive oil for a few minutes, because that's what I had handy. The cork gasket on the fuel cap had crumbled, so I replaced it with a synthetic rubber O-ring. The O-ring was the right inside and outside diameter, but too thick to let the cap threads catch. So I held it between thumb and forefinger and shaved it down with a razor knife - and yes, I nicked my thumb doing it. A job isn't properly completed, unless you've offered the gods a blood sacrifice....
It works great, and actually gets my little Korean ceramic coffee roaster up to 500 degrees faster than my kitchen range did.
By the way, the 413G stoves were designed to use either white gasoline or unleaded gas. It says so on the cardboard box, which I still have. But given the unreliable quality of gas station unleaded, the additives, and the fact that a little fuel goes a long way in these stoves, I'll stick with the white gas. There was only about a dollar's difference at Walmart between a gallon of Coleman brand fuel and another brand, so I figured what the heck and splurged for the Coleman.
I bought a 413G and a coleman lantern (model unknown) back around 1979-80. I wanted badly for my family to take me camping but unfortunately never got to and camping was soon forgotten as I took an interest in girls.
My dad had put away my stove and I found it a couple of years ago. The tank is stamped 8/71, so just as old as me.
Tried it out yesterday but keep getting high yellow flame despite following the instructions.
Going to take the valve and generator apart to see if they need replacement parts.
Thanks for posting your video.
A good cleaning, maybe a few simple parts or some new fuel and you'll be good to go for your lifetime! Can't wait, going camping this weekend
Pump gas won't hurt the functionality of the stove. You'll just have to clean it twice as often. The additives in gasoline have a tendency to gum up the generator if you don't stay on top of the maintenance.
Agreed:) Congrats on the BDay stove find.
@The Ed Do you have any advice on how to clean it? I just got one in today.
If you pre-heat up the steel supply tube that goes from the tank to the burner, then you can get rid of the orange flame quickly instead of waiting to see the blue. I use a propane torch and heat up the tube directly over the burner. It especially helps to do this trick when outside temperatures are cold. The hot tube will now atomize the fuel giving blue flame right away. I learned this after getting to many pans with black bottoms from the orange flames. Good Luck. Great American Engineered stove!
That's some great advice, thank you.
Great video man. I just picked up a 1966 model from an antique shop. Cheers
That's awsome:)
Just picked up a 413g at a yard sale today for $10 in mint condition. After watching this vid I realized I just scored!! Mine has the manual and sliding around the bottom was an unused pack of Richard Nixon matches....Lol, I love it! :)
Nice find, and 10$, that's a score. Enjoy it.
I have inherited my Uncles old 413E Duel burner camper store. I used it a lot in the on camping trips over the years, and even in my house near an open window during a power outage. But for the last 12 years it has been stored in a dark close in a back bedroom. So now, with what's going on in the world, I'm trying to restore it. I have no idea when it was made as there is no date, but I'd say it was pretty old as I got it in 1978. So I'm busy watching videos for how to restore this thing. It's in pretty good shape except for the pump casket and the cap seals. So, I'll try to order those from Coleman. Thanks for the info.
Yes, you should have no problem restoring it. Most likely, all it needs is a new leather seal. You can get one on Amazon for a couple of bucks, it comes in a set with all you need. Enjoy it.
Yes Dual Fuel Means White gas or unleaded gas.
It does. Yes.
I just found my dad's Coleman 413 yesterday. I remember his cookouts when I was 17 ( in 1967) . Thanks for the great video! Well done. I'm looking forward to using it on our road trip coming up in June.
That's awesome 👌 does it still work fine? Maybe oil the pump leather. These stoves are amazing.
Unleaded burns fine. Try to find ethanol free, if possible. The lower the octane, the better. Less additives. I make no claims that it's food safe. Only that it burns fine. You MAY see more deposits in the generator but not significantly so. If you only use them occasionally, just go with Coleman Fuel or other camping fuel. It is very stable in storage. Pump gas is not. If you run them a lot, regular ethanol free unleaded makes sense. If you burn a gallon/year is it really worth the nasty, lingering gasoline smell when you spill some for a few dollars saved? And the additional attention to cleaning the tank before long term storage? Probably not.
FYI the engineers at Coleman made up a lighting procedure for these. They had the wisdom to have it printed on the stove lid right in front of you. Try it. Follow it exactly. You can add more pumps if you like, just don't use less. If memory serves, it probably tells you to add more pumps as soon as it lights. Minimal flare ups, if any, when you follow the instructions on the lid.
DO NOT "test" it by opening the valve without lighting it. THIS FLOODS THE GENERATOR and makes for big yellow flames. BAD IDEA! DON'T DO THIS!
Here is a link to the manual: www.oldtowncoleman.com/manuals/413g.pdf
Credit to Frank Bebb at Old Town Coleman.
To light:
Give it 50 full pumps.
Lighting lever up.
Aux burner off.
Hold LIT lighter or match to main burner BEFORE you....
Open valve ALL THE WAY. Stove will light immediately.
Add more pumps.
Turn lighing lever down after one minute. Though it usually won't take that long.
Bingo! No big yellow flames. Ready to cook in one minute or less.
Try it, you'll like the results.
To shut down:
Turn the lighting lever up
Let it burn for one minute to induce air and purge most of the liquid fuel from the generator. You should see the flame change to a darker blue and jump slightly off the burner and pulse a bit.
Close valve
Let cool before closing or packing.
Thanks, that is some great info.
I have a 413 made in 1/65. Only had to replace the pump and it works great! I might clean the generator tube, but it works like a champ! Good video.
Thanks, great old school construction. There is ZERO plastic on these hence they will work forever with a little love.
The red gas can is white gas the gray gas can is on the dual fuel stoves
Nope.
Not necessarily true, with earlier models. The original 413G's were dual-fuel, and came with a red tank.
Thank you so much for making this video, I found one of these secondhand and now I know exactly how to use it! So helpful.
Glad I was of assistance. Enjoy the stove, it's an awsome unit and will serve you well into perpetuity.
Thanks for the very informative video. I am looking at this vintage stove and your video helps a lot!
Glad to be of help, buy one ASAP, it's the last stove you'll ever buy and serve you well. Also take a look at some of the older lanterns as well, the dual fuel ones.
Of course it works better than your modern stove. Vintage Coleman, they don’t make them like they us to.
I've used this stove now 3 times and it is such a effective monster!
Does your pump actually lock in place when you turn it to the right after you pump? I turn mine but it doesn't necessarily lock into place - i can still pull it out if I wanted to. If it's not supposed to do this do you think that would be an issue?
I don't believe they lock, mine doesn't either yet it works perfectly.
@@ONBLASTWITHMG Thank you - I take with me when we go camping in our old VW bus and tried it this past weekend and it worked just fine!
I use unleaded fuel and run a bottle of injector cleaner through it once in a while. I have one with the gold tank and it still works great...I use it frequently lately! Flame control is awesome when it warms up! Do not fill it all the way up! Fill it around half and it will last longer without more pumping. You can use your thumb to cover the hole and you only need to unwind the pump valve 1 or 2 turns...not like this guy does...it is obvious he is a rookie with all the city traffic in the background!
Ok Mr caveman you make a video then.
Do you run the injector cleaner in the fount of just in the generator?
It will work on unleaded fuel, however it will need much more frequent maintenance because it will get fouled up, especially with all the additives. Since I don't use too often, I would rather use the camp/Coleman fuel.
Good to know, I like you will continue to use the white fuel.
Just picked one of these up for about $30. Looking forward to using it!
Worth every penny and last stove you'll buy.
Nice vids...... Walmart sells Coleman fuel around $12 /gallon also there's another brand called Crown white gas sold at Walmart. If you use unleaded fuel use ethanol free..... less additives than unleaded ethanol....the Crown fuel is around $7/gallon....
I do need to get some more, used it this last weekend camping and as always it preformed flawlessly. It still amazes me that after all these years it works as it should. Going to wally world this weekend, will stock up on a gallon, thanks.
@@ONBLASTWITHMG yw.,.. happy camping
Its good to know the option is there. I like your channel, subscribed.
What size pots will it take? Is it (2) 10" or one 12" and one 10"? Thanks!
I had 2 10 inch cast iron pans with no problem the last time I went camping with room to spare. I would guess a 10 inch and 12 inch would be fine.
@@ONBLASTWITHMG Here is my dilemma: There are two descriptions Coleman Provides, that I enumerated in my original comment. Currently, they make a model 414, and model 424 -- many retailers and sellers do not present these model #'s. I am presently bidding on a 413G on eBay. I would prefer to have the 12" capacity, but I cannot afford a new stove at ~$168! Please help, if at all possible! Thanks so much.
@@tkarlmann I'm not sure i have the exact info you're looking for. A 12" pan i do not believe would fit squarely on the burner without taking the wind deflector down. If you do that then it would fit. Maybe someone else can chime in
You can also run it on propane they make an adapter just another form of fuel for you to use.
That is cool. So versatile. Need to get this COVID over with, miss my camping.
That model is not duel fuel.
If I’m not mistaken sometimes the tank has a different stamp date than the stove suitcase. They can be different dates. Looks like you got a nice stove! I have two myself and love using them.
Love this thing. Such simple yet effective long term engeniering.
the date stamped on the tank tabs is the date the tank was made. the stove date is stamped on the bottom of the stove. if no date stamped on the bottom of three stove it is very early 70 ' or older
Great video, I have one of these I bought a few years ago. Going to try to fire it up. Happy Thanksgiving. You are almost to a Thousand subs. I am 985. Peace.
Thanks ZDP. Good luck on your 1000 as well. Enjoy your stove, hope it fires up.
@@ONBLASTWITHMG I just checked the date on my stove. 8/77 or 877 stamped under the fuel tank clips. Thanks for showing me that. Cheers.
Hey, that's almost my birthday! That thing is old:)
@@ONBLASTWITHMG The really cool thing is that I was born in 67. Your stove is one month off from my birthday. Lets trade, Lol.
We should trade, do you live close to Santa Barbara, CA?
10 bucks for 1/2 gallon? that's 20 bucks a gallon...lol. Right now in my neck of the woods...unleaded gas is 1.69 dollars a gallon...lol. but still, I loved this video!
Expensive stuff. Can i use unleaded in mine safley?
Would appreciate your SUBSCRIPTION
@@ONBLASTWITHMG well, I ain't no expert on these colemans...but so far I have good burns thus far with unleaded...yet, time will tell with the build up in the generator tube they say.
Consider it done
@@ONBLASTWITHMG The manual says you can use regular gas, but it will perform better with their brand of fuel. You might need to clean it more often with regular gas.
I imagined that it'll still cook a hell of a meal huh
Indeed it will and has on several occasions recently.
That's wassup I've still got my grandpa's old Coleman 413g that he still had since Vietnam and it went through hell and back still works
These things take a beating and keep on ticking.
Yup
the 413G is not dual fuel! it’s Coleman fuel (white gas , naphthalene) only!
What makes it not a dual fuel? 🤔
You're wrong. The 413G I bought at a yard sale was in its original box, and it says right on the box that it's dual fuel - even though the tank is red.
They are ALL dual fuel. This was just marketing. Long before there was "Coleman Fuel" the early Coleman stoves, and other brands too, had siphon pumps so you could fill your stove with gasoline from your car's tank. They run fine on unleaded, preferably ethanol free low octane, but they'll run fine on any quality gasoline. Generator life may be slightly shorter, but these are easy as pie to clean if you know what you're doing. I prefer running camp fuel/Coleman fuel due to it having far fewer additives and other engine friendly but not so food friendly stuff.
And naphthalene is moth balls. Naphtha is white gas.
@@troystallard6895 Can you post a photo of that? I'd be genuinely interested to see it. What model year is that stove? They all ran on auto gasoline for decades before Coleman saw the potential in marketing their own ultra clean burning fuel. Decades later, they saw the marketing potential in selling a new camp stove to an already saturated market by labeling them as "Dual Fuel" and painting them a different color and making minor changes so the main parts for the old and new were not interchangeable without modifications.
@@mikemorgan5015 Not sure I still have the box, and there's no point in posting a pic of the stove. It's just a 513G, with a red tank. The bottom of the right tank hanger tab is stamped '2 6 9,' and a campground receipt inside the stove was dated June 1969.
Is that... a BlackBerry passport!?
Not a passport but you're right a blackberry key 1!
@@ONBLASTWITHMG very nice! BlackBerry passport was the best song I ever owned.
TUCK FRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah... thanks for your input. It's really relevant to the discussion....