That is already on its way to being a beautiful bonsai. You have a good eyewhen out collecting. Look forward to seeingmore of this tree in future. Cheers Sid
Great transformation after re-potting and looks a very natural tree and won't take you long to develop this further.. Your root work is always good, which I like to watch.
Kennet De Bondt Thank you, If anyone is reading this, check out Kennet's channel. It is one of my favourite channels on RUclips. Really good explanations and attention to detail.
hi Nigel! i live in Manitoba and so glad to see bonsai vids here in Canada. neighbor has just handed me an orange tree that has been a porcelain pot for years! still looking for a training pot for it. i surely miss my little bonsai projects in the Philippines..cheers!
Nigel Saunders, The Bonsai Zone I'm not seeing commercials. You should be making a little something for teaching us so well. I have learned so much from you.
I am not a big fan of cedar trees because of the leaf size and styling, but I must say you did an excellent job on this one and it really shows promise. Well done!
These are called mica pots. They have to be ordered online. If you do a Google search for mica bonsai pots, hopefully you can find a source close to home!
Fred Grech Hi Fred, yes that was our club meeting. I will work on this tree hopefully late summer. It all depends on the tree. If it is growing with vigor, I'll begin the top styling. Mainly a bit of wiring and foliage trimming. Not too much this first year!
mick watson I collect any moss growing in full or partial sun. Usually growing on sidewalks or driveways. I always scrape the old soil off the moss by soaking it in water and rubbing away the soil. The moss is then pushed down on the surface of the soil and watered so it doesn't dry out. This means some days you need to water in the morning, at lunch, and at supper time. It is important to have a good free draining bonsai soil mix, so the soil doesn't stay too wet all day. Moss seems to like the cycle of almost drying out and then getting soaked again. Moss will establish itself in about a week, but it is always easy to pull off as I don't think it has any real roots?
good morning nigel sir, i am from india a starter in bonsai and i am learning from ur videos it helps me a lot thanks a lot nigel sir please keep on making videos and give as new lessons abt bonsai art and i have one question for u sir in tropical conditions where i live which tree is best for a mini bonsai
Hello.. question.. My Juniper (I just transferred to a smaller pot) is beginning to turn brown... Am I over or under watering, it's outside..not harsh sunlight.. I spray and water daily.. water drains easily..? HELP.. ty Joe
How do you take care of your trees after you cut the roots of your trees? Do you use any special fertilizers or any specific method and time line of fertilization application?
jfrinns I don't use any fertilizer or products until the tree begins to grow again. If the roots are pruned at the right time in spring, you just need to be careful with your watering. The bonsai soil helps keep the soil around the roots at the ideal humidity level for your new roots to grow. Root pruning should only be done to a vigorous tree. The Cedar clump in this video is root pruned about a month too late in the season, so it will be kept humid on the greenhouse floor until it recovers. Severe root pruning is always risky, sometimes the outcome is good, sometimes bad!
Dear Nigel, I kinda need your help and advice on a collected Cedar. My neighbour restyled their garden to only tiles and they had a pretty big cedar that would be thrown away. I asked and got the tree, put it in a water container for now and I want to put it in ground so it can recover. The biggest roots are cut off, only a thick beginner root without the smaller absorbing roots and a few smaller roots are all that is left of the root ball. The tree is a 1.20 meter tree, shaped in the typical “ball”. What should I do for this tree to eventually make it into a bonsai? Should I prune the foliage to the last bits of green or just leave the tree alone? (does it loose a lot of water through the ‘leaves’?) I have not yet joined a bonsai club, so I thought I could ask you for some advice. Kind regards, Dennis
Hello Dennis, I think the tree would have the best chance of surviving if it is placed in a wooden box that fits all the roots and gives them some room to grow. You may have to build a box to suit. I would plant the tree in sifted bonsai soil, this will promote root growth with all the air spaces between the particles. Keep the tree in the shade and water it well. After that it is up to mother nature. Some area of the tree may die off and some may survive, it will depend on which roots live. I would leave the foliage alone, it should be fine in the shade. Cedars can take a couple of years to regain their vigor. Year two the tree can be put in more sunshine, but I would wait until year three to give it full sun all day long. Good luck, I hope your tree makes it!
hey nigel, would this be similar tree to the white cedar that grows on east coast of Australia? apparently that and the red cedar are the only oz native deciduous trees so im going to try to find one of each.
These are different trees...... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melia_azedarach en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuja_occidentalis The trees we call white cedars here are evergreen. Good question Michael!
dear sir.. Do we keep these trees indoors through out the year or outdoors.. when you initially dig the tree out of lets say some forest or park and put it in a training pot?
Vww Boodlam The trees are kept outdoors. The only trees that go indoors are the tropical trees. They cannot take freezing. The hardy outdoor trees do require some winter protection from wind. The trees can go in an unheated shed, garage or cold basement. They do not require light when dormant. Be sure you have permission if collecting off your own property!
+Donald S. Grabski You can re-use soil, but I wouldn't recommend it. The soil breaks down through out the year and can get mineral build up on the particles. This stops the soil draining freely and working properly. Old soil can contain harmful insects, bacteria and weeds. It's best to put the old soil in your garden and start fresh with your trees. Gravel drainage layers can be re-used, but should be washed first.
That is already on its way to being a beautiful bonsai. You have a good eyewhen out collecting. Look forward to seeingmore of this tree in future.
Cheers
Sid
Great transformation after re-potting and looks a very natural tree and won't take you long to develop this further.. Your root work is always good, which I like to watch.
Great video Nigel. I learn something new in each of your videos.
Thank you Brandon, I usually do too!
Nice video.
This is really a nice tree! The shape and form is there to create a natural looking bonsai.
Keep us updated.
Greets
Kennet
Kennet De Bondt Thank you, If anyone is reading this, check out Kennet's channel. It is one of my favourite channels on RUclips. Really good explanations and attention to detail.
hi Nigel! i live in Manitoba and so glad to see bonsai vids here in Canada. neighbor has just handed me an orange tree that has been a porcelain pot for years! still looking for a training pot for it. i surely miss my little bonsai projects in the Philippines..cheers!
Jordan 3 Tropicals are always a challenge, getting them through the long winter. Good luck with your orange tree Jordan!
Those guys didn’t realise they were in the company of RUclips royalty!!
My humble little channel has grown! It's very exciting for me.
Nigel Saunders, The Bonsai Zone
I'm not seeing commercials. You should be making a little something for teaching us so well. I have learned so much from you.
I am not a big fan of cedar trees because of the leaf size and styling, but I must say you did an excellent job on this one and it really shows promise. Well done!
Curtis Lee Thanks, the tree is doing well and is growing with vigor. I'm hoping to do some basic styling, late this year.
At 11 minutes and 20 seconds I realized the tiny forest instead of a bush
Check it out today at 15:33 in my latest video.....
ruclips.net/video/nSx8SyfKVpU/видео.html
Nigel, you talk of these sturdy bonsai plastic pots ( like the one in this video).....where do you buy these from?
These are called mica pots. They have to be ordered online. If you do a Google search for mica bonsai pots, hopefully you can find a source close to home!
Hi Nigel great work was that your club?when will you work on this tree again ? Have a good day
Fred Grech Hi Fred, yes that was our club meeting. I will work on this tree hopefully late summer. It all depends on the tree. If it is growing with vigor, I'll begin the top styling. Mainly a bit of wiring and foliage trimming. Not too much this first year!
Another great vid Nigel. Which moss do you recommend and how long does it take the moss to establish on the surface.
mick watson I collect any moss growing in full or partial sun. Usually growing on sidewalks or driveways. I always scrape the old soil off the moss by soaking it in water and rubbing away the soil. The moss is then pushed down on the surface of the soil and watered so it doesn't dry out. This means some days you need to water in the morning, at lunch, and at supper time. It is important to have a good free draining bonsai soil mix, so the soil doesn't stay too wet all day. Moss seems to like the cycle of almost drying out and then getting soaked again. Moss will establish itself in about a week, but it is always easy to pull off as I don't think it has any real roots?
Thanks!!
yup moss does not have "roots"
good morning nigel sir, i am from india a starter in bonsai and i am learning from ur videos it helps me a lot thanks a lot nigel sir please keep on making videos and give as new lessons abt bonsai art and i have one question for u sir in tropical conditions where i live which tree is best for a mini bonsai
Check out this list, many are really suitable for making a really small tree.....
guide.makebonsai.com/bonsai_tree_species_guide_indoor_bonsai.asp
thanks a lot for your reply sir
Hello.. question.. My Juniper (I just transferred to a smaller pot) is beginning to turn brown... Am I over or under watering, it's outside..not harsh sunlight.. I spray and water daily.. water drains easily..? HELP.. ty Joe
How do you take care of your trees after you cut the roots of your trees? Do you use any special fertilizers or any specific method and time line of fertilization application?
jfrinns I don't use any fertilizer or products until the tree begins to grow again. If the roots are pruned at the right time in spring, you just need to be careful with your watering. The bonsai soil helps keep the soil around the roots at the ideal humidity level for your new roots to grow. Root pruning should only be done to a vigorous tree. The Cedar clump in this video is root pruned about a month too late in the season, so it will be kept humid on the greenhouse floor until it recovers. Severe root pruning is always risky, sometimes the outcome is good, sometimes bad!
Dear Nigel,
I kinda need your help and advice on a collected Cedar. My neighbour restyled their garden to only tiles and they had a pretty big cedar that would be thrown away.
I asked and got the tree, put it in a water container for now and I want to put it in ground so it can recover.
The biggest roots are cut off, only a thick beginner root without the smaller absorbing roots and a few smaller roots are all that is left of the root ball. The tree is a 1.20 meter tree, shaped in the typical “ball”.
What should I do for this tree to eventually make it into a bonsai?
Should I prune the foliage to the last bits of green or just leave the tree alone? (does it loose a lot of water through the ‘leaves’?)
I have not yet joined a bonsai club, so I thought I could ask you for some advice.
Kind regards,
Dennis
Hello Dennis, I think the tree would have the best chance of surviving if it is placed in a wooden box that fits all the roots and gives them some room to grow. You may have to build a box to suit. I would plant the tree in sifted bonsai soil, this will promote root growth with all the air spaces between the particles. Keep the tree in the shade and water it well. After that it is up to mother nature. Some area of the tree may die off and some may survive, it will depend on which roots live. I would leave the foliage alone, it should be fine in the shade. Cedars can take a couple of years to regain their vigor. Year two the tree can be put in more sunshine, but I would wait until year three to give it full sun all day long. Good luck, I hope your tree makes it!
hey nigel, would this be similar tree to the white cedar that grows on east coast of Australia? apparently that and the red cedar are the only oz native deciduous trees so im going to try to find one of each.
These are different trees......
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melia_azedarach
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuja_occidentalis
The trees we call white cedars here are evergreen. Good question Michael!
Nigel Saunders thank you. you should have a look at the red cedar, awesome big rainforest tree.
dear sir.. Do we keep these trees indoors through out the year or outdoors.. when you initially dig the tree out of lets say some forest or park and put it in a training pot?
Vww Boodlam The trees are kept outdoors. The only trees that go indoors are the tropical trees. They cannot take freezing. The hardy outdoor trees do require some winter protection from wind. The trees can go in an unheated shed, garage or cold basement. They do not require light when dormant. Be sure you have permission if collecting off your own property!
Thanks for sharing
Can you reuse soil?
+Donald S. Grabski You can re-use soil, but I wouldn't recommend it. The soil breaks down through out the year and can get mineral build up on the particles. This stops the soil draining freely and working properly. Old soil can contain harmful insects, bacteria and weeds. It's best to put the old soil in your garden and start fresh with your trees. Gravel drainage layers can be re-used, but should be washed first.
+Nigel Saunders Thank you