I used to work for one of these companies when I was in campus here in Kenya. It involved sitting 8 hours straight either imputing data or labeling an image. The pay depended on two factors i.e your accuracy and the number of tasks completed. The hourly targets were impossible to beat and they kept ranking us on a daily basis. In addition, the constant offboarding threats, peanut pay (8 dollars per day for an 8 hour shift) and tired fingers was too much for my mental health so I quit. The Irony is they used to send us links for mental health webinars. Thank you for covering this and hope this modern day slavery will come to an end.
Honest question, what is normal pay for a Kenyan doing work with similar skill? Because I do not see any real expertise in this work besides English, yet many youth either have no jobs, or earn less than the $8 a day. Kenya is putting a minimum wage which is ~$6.8 for 20 days of work - we all know one would still work ~25+ days a month. So I fail to see how we are looking at this - is it the western world lens or are we being realistic about the opportunities in the country? Would you say mental health is better on the stall, matatu or boda boda rider if that is the main concern?
@@DWDocumentary THE SAME work was done for typing alphabetic and digital captcha more than 15 years ago. This whole boom in self-learning from the very beginning was a noise to attract money, while ordinary people did everything manually and taught it to models, models will learn and what will happen next?
Kenya is the Worlds power house of quality human capital. Software developers included. We don't give up but we shall revisit with more innovations beyond them.
Thanks DW for consistent top quality investigative reporting and documentaries! As a Kenyan I am proud that Kenya is ground zero in this struggle as the AI revolution unfolds. There will be no let up. Workers who train AI models will get their due.
"Hey GoK, we wanna start a union to better ourselves and others." "Ok, sure. Fill these skyscraper long forms right after you go through tons of bureaucracy and monkey business."
Worked these gigs for a bit, and in as much as I would say the pay was ridiculous compared to the west, it put me through school, but mental health was down the drain. I was consistently tired after years balancing this with school. Thank you for covering this DW.
With only a degree we have been able to write masters thesis for students in U.S and Europe for the same peanut money. What amazes me is that this guys graduates after submitting the tasks we did for them.
this was one of the predictions of AI, everything online will be faked, only things that are real will have value. all thing that are shared digitally will have little value
Kenyans we are brilliant, academics, tech, AI you name it. How I wish we had Kenyan tech companies for Kenyans to work in rather than the brain drain to Chinese and American companies for cents. Kenya is a remote job sweat shop! It must stop, they should pay well or pack and go.
I’ve heard of the meme of AI being "an Indian", it is said as a joke, implying that companies don’t really have AI, but a lot of slave work, but I guess it is AK a Kenyan…
One theory is that their labor on "helping machines" or "training machines" is NOT NEEDED because the most advanced machines are already existing with those in military levels. AND there is no real reports about the demand and supply of these technologies made available to the "common people" to stay informed. Despite mainstream media. The output required of them, usually can already be avoided but advanced tech deployment "requires more money", so it is not well distributed for civilian purposes to maximize profits for small groups. Thus the business here is NOT about tech improvement or providing jobs, but more about inflicting pain on the money-dependent workers for profit of competing small groups of legitimized businesses.
@@melaniabladeofmiquella I didn't mention everyone, only media companies, not individuals who choose to profit off bad news or not. Everyone is free to choose how to earn a living. While sharing information is good, it's a double eged sword due to the fact that any time bad news is shared for a profit, there is a vested interest by the company sharing that information continuing to share similar news. As dose any post or comment such as ours that gains likes from it as well.
@@StanViviLeeWhen we focus on bad news that is monitized it creates a need for more bad news. Humans have a propensity for pattern recognition and perpetuation.
Sad for Kenyan youth 😭Slavery is all about money wether its digitalized model the worst things the government don't care about exploitation no strategy in place to protect young people. Cheap labour for few billionaire around the world 🌎. Thank you DW for the timely exposee 👏✅
Why the working conditions disparity: market-design for extraction of "cheap" labor and a dumping ground for big business overproduction or surpluses. No one explained to these workers the history of the IMF-WB and WTO. Despite our high tech and web media means. Thus, we are part of those that causes unnecessary sufferings that holds back genuine innovations and progress grounded on food security, soil health, and participatory governance.
It also surprises me that even after such exposés these corporations cannot and will not stop because their greed for money and disregard for human worth continues. They will keep recycling "workers"(accurate word would be slaves) until they have achieved their AI goals. The fact that there is always someone out there who needs an income these corporations are sure they have a continued supply of cheap labor force.
I am from India. They have started hiring in India too. Just recently they hired me. It was a work from home job. But very soon I found out that data annotation is very tedious job. Very very time taking. They expected me to complete 8-10 tasks per day. But it takes me whole day to complete even more than 1 task. They expect the data annotation to be best quality. They give completion ratings from 1 to 5. But I lied to them that my laptop has stopped working and left the job.
Next time interview me, surprisingly working on a project that pays 1.3$ per hour "to clean the atmosphere." I was surprised to see the group of world billionaires we are working for, considering the amount of money set aside for carbon mitigation and the little we get to map all the areas,facilities, etc around the globe plus amount of CH2 & CO2......etc I have been in the field more than 5yrs but no tangible improvement in mylife😢
It is very hard to deal with these issues because when you fight for better working environment they close shop and move to India, Nigeria and Pakistan for even cheaper labor.
I heard the word freelance too many times to see this as exploitation because it implies they were ok with it all when signing up for the job. Most of the problems mentioned are the responsibility of the freelancers themselves.
As a former moderator for a social media, I can say that the report is givimg subjective truths. I've worked as a moderator for 3 years and coped with the same load of work. BUT I am stable and can handle it.
The truth of this situation is that this is a cost to our whole civilisation that cannot be priced and to the harms that are being done both to the individual and to the poorest areas of the global civilisation. I think more broadly that all of the civilisation has a duty to resolve this situation from those that are creating or sharing atrocities. We must resolve this situation swiftly before greater impacts are seen throughout. Those benefitting the most financially from this are going to have to accept liability as with any harms caused in a workplace even if fines are levied against the stock price.
I still remember doing something like where you mark social media ads posting as "good" and "bad" for like 8 dollar/5minutes/days within about a year. No disturbing ads at all. Then the job suddenly stopped and I got invite to do data annotation. They say the work is taken over by another company and the pay is like only 1/8 or 1/12 with hell lot of bullet points to follow. Guess when they have discovered what they really want specifically to feed into AI, that's when they need human machines.
17:22 ~ The funny thing is these companies have outrageous hiring requirements and potential recruits have to undergo a rigorous vetting process and only get hired if they pass the checks. Then get to earn cents from tasks!!!
The whole world is working directly or indirectly for growth of big techs. The fuel of these companies are humans. Life of people becoming more miserable w.r.t work life balance.
I understand this work is necessary, however, just like a factory offer safegurds for staff. Understand the metrics around doing this work and how much a person can manage without harm and offer follow up services for their wellbeing. Pay equitably as well surely.
There are EMTs, health care workers and emergency responders who see stuff like this all the time and go home to their families just fine every night. I think that there should have been more of an upfront choice on the projects and perhaps even a small pay bump for the harder work, but I don't believe we are traumatizing all of the third world with this. These jobs are a choice and if it isn't for you it isn't for you vote with your feet.
Please define “fine” - as a therapist, I see many first responders that are far from fine when exposed to traumatic situations/images. The garbage goes in and has an impact. It may not be perceptible immediately but it still has a compounding effect
Problem is whether the employees are informed or trained before a gruesome task is handed to them. Even media respect viewers by including a disclaimer concerning viewer's discretion. It's an injustice when no disclaimers are given since one cannot "unsee" or "unprocess" what they are cognitively exposed to.
Good reporting, but some context. I am from Kenya, and legal minimum wage starts from approximately $1per hour. Many are actually paid less, for more hazardous work. So if US tech firms are paying double the minimum wage it can't be so bad for employees. Although they should (if they dont) inform employees of content they have to analyse, and let the people decide if they want to work there or not.
12:49 The question is not Why they had to give this dialogues, it’s about mental health and how to keep this workers mentally healthy…..and yes second question after that is, why is this necessary and for what aka WHY They just want to be able to stay sane, in their workplace. It’s not that had to understand if you are actually trying to. They keep the world “sane” and “safe” from themselves, so at the very least give them an outlet for all YOUR DEMONS.
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I worked for Appen to train AI to differentiate and understand query and suggested outcomes, $2 an hour. That was so emotionally draining given the racist content 😢. I still have an active profile.
The companies don’t want to have better work conditions that’s why they’re in Kenya and if you continue to ask for better conditions, there won’t be the companies in Kenya. They’ll just go to another one. All of us humans only exist to benefit the wealthy that is the majority thought in all of the wealthy. Don’t you get that yet?
Asian workers bribe for low-wage factory jobs due to limited alternatives. Critics of "sweatshops" ignore that such jobs often pay more than local options, offering better working conditions. The Asia you all admire and travel to all got their start from sweatshops..
The premise of this video is wrong. There are two main issues from what I can tell in this video 1. Graphic or disturbing content that may affect the trainer. 2. The pay is inadequate for the work involve. On point 1 this is an obvious and straightforward answer. The companies need to inform people of what they will be doing and what the content may include and be very transparent on it. 2. Is where people will get offend and to disclose I am a Kenyan. At the end of the day. The reason why the pay is so low is because that’s how the companies will make more profits. From a companies perspective why pay high amounts in the USA while you can outsource Labour. This is not only being done in this sector but so many other sectors. Another side that if they where to pay Kenyans equal amounts as they would let’s say in USA then why come to Kenya the average US citizen will hold a higher IQ and USA Labour laws are not as strict as Kenya so even better. The fact is the only reason why the Labour market is appealing in Kenya to these AI companies is because it’s cheap. If you wish to resolve the problem then these trainers need to start a joint business where they all have an equal share and contract out there work. But then again the AI companies can always choose another country. Fact is if you don’t like the job in the first three months well then take your tale out of your legs and enter the job market!
This is very interesting....and.... complicated....in the 50s, 60s, and maybe after 2000.... life of human is obviously not like that, naw is more crazy...l understand people have to make money for living, but this is out of the blue, l fell sorry for this people,...be strong in mind..💪👍.....the capital Sistem don't care about nothing.....be strong...be strong....👋🙂
What are you talking about? The west and china have much higher living standards than Kenya. Maybe blame the Kenyan govt and their own leaders and lawmakers responsible for the country first before foreign for profit companies. They don’t owe Kenyans handouts.
Are these companies in Kenya? or the Jobs are available online?....if it's online Jobs,the government has nothing to do with it,it's people who decide to do the online Jobs....
@@leonalee392 These are online jobs and the reason we blame the Kenyan government is that the economy is not growing so students graduate from university and there are no employment opportunities for the majority. The same government, instead of dealing with the issue, gave a solution for unemployed youth to look for online jobs. The people taking these jobs are doing so out of desperation to survive a very tough economic environment where we have nothing called 'unemployment benefits'. You must find a way to survive. This is the same govt that offers Kenyans work abroad as househelps in the middle east where stories of exploitation and modern slavery are so common. Instead of giving Kenyans options to work and make a living in Kenya, and build the country, they tell Kenyans to find jobs elsewhere and hence this is the result.
Bias aside and considering context, many young Kenyans are unemployed or do manual labor (mjengo) for about 5 dollars per day (ksh600) largely due to systemic (gatekeepers and middlemen) and political (zakayo) issues. So $1-5 per hour , though ridiculous globally, is a good entry point for gaining digital skills and experience.
The United nations should step in on the area of human rights.the AI community in kenya should get a trade union.if need be the adversely affected should litigate.some of the issues constitute torture inhumane cruel degrading treatment.its like child labour.the AU though useless should come up with a charter on such workers but most governments don't care about the work force so long ad foreign exchange is harvested.medical psychiatric bodies ad legal bodies should speak up
The issue is just money rise but what they are doing is good. Labelling,is not bad.we also must have a testing model in anything. Africa will always come last im a kenyan and this i know
I used to work for one of these companies when I was in campus here in Kenya. It involved sitting 8 hours straight either imputing data or labeling an image. The pay depended on two factors i.e your accuracy and the number of tasks completed. The hourly targets were impossible to beat and they kept ranking us on a daily basis. In addition, the constant offboarding threats, peanut pay (8 dollars per day for an 8 hour shift) and tired fingers was too much for my mental health so I quit. The Irony is they used to send us links for mental health webinars. Thank you for covering this and hope this modern day slavery will come to an end.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences.
ur already use to ..even ur comment u can tell ur English power by Chat GPT 😄😄🤣
Honest question, what is normal pay for a Kenyan doing work with similar skill? Because I do not see any real expertise in this work besides English, yet many youth either have no jobs, or earn less than the $8 a day. Kenya is putting a minimum wage which is ~$6.8 for 20 days of work - we all know one would still work ~25+ days a month. So I fail to see how we are looking at this - is it the western world lens or are we being realistic about the opportunities in the country? Would you say mental health is better on the stall, matatu or boda boda rider if that is the main concern?
@@sweetlisiousu knw how to catch 😂😂someone using this
@@DWDocumentary THE SAME work was done for typing alphabetic and digital captcha more than 15 years ago. This whole boom in self-learning from the very beginning was a noise to attract money, while ordinary people did everything manually and taught it to models, models will learn and what will happen next?
Kenya is the Worlds power house of quality human capital. Software developers included. We don't give up but we shall revisit with more innovations beyond them.
Thank you for covering this, I've been saying this for a year now. Africa needs to use it's intellectuals to develop Africa only.
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Thanks DW for consistent top quality investigative reporting and documentaries! As a Kenyan I am proud that Kenya is ground zero in this struggle as the AI revolution unfolds. There will be no let up. Workers who train AI models will get their due.
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Remotask was forced to block and leave their operations in Kenya after being exposed.
Yeah that's why they packed up and left. They got sued.
Their name and CEO’s name must be exposed full time until they change.
most of my employers traumatize me here in kenya, be kind to your brother and thats how we coexist, im not hailing their evils
Hio remotsk wangefaa kufungwa
@@theunicornishereYeah then came back with Outlier😂
I blame our government for failing to implement measures that protect citizens from exploitation by foreign companies!
"Hey GoK, we wanna start a union to better ourselves and others."
"Ok, sure. Fill these skyscraper long forms right after you go through tons of bureaucracy and monkey business."
💯
The governments youth employment plan is mjengo kwa affordable housing projects...I blame zakayo for this exploitations
Worked these gigs for a bit, and in as much as I would say the pay was ridiculous compared to the west, it put me through school, but mental health was down the drain. I was consistently tired after years balancing this with school. Thank you for covering this DW.
With only a degree we have been able to write masters thesis for students in U.S and Europe for the same peanut money. What amazes me is that this guys graduates after submitting the tasks we did for them.
Which online writer app do u use, and how much do they pay?
hata hamuonii hii kitu imekuwa staged
AI is polluting the cyberspace too. Nobody is talking about how AI is making internet unusable.
This is good in the long term, as people will trust the internet less and less and go back to real life
@TomNook. Yea, good luck without out the internet, thou. Honestly 😊
There is a lot a lot of people talking about this. Also related to dead internet theory.
this was one of the predictions of AI, everything online will be faked, only things that are real will have value. all thing that are shared digitally will have little value
@@waveFunction25 its a theory
I worked in the industry in Kenya for 2 years, very exploitative! Pay and poor conditions!
How much did they pay?
@seeyouagain911 ksh. 21,000 gross per month.
@@seeyouagain911 the video explains it. Cents per task.
They said they paid her cents in the video and they paid other $2 an hour@@seeyouagain911
What was the alternative option?
Kenyans we are brilliant, academics, tech, AI you name it. How I wish we had Kenyan tech companies for Kenyans to work in rather than the brain drain to Chinese and American companies for cents. Kenya is a remote job sweat shop! It must stop, they should pay well or pack and go.
i'm disappointed that DW didn't report on how great this is for billionaire CEOs of these companies, they are very happy with this.
No need to report, if you are making billions then you are happy about it.
They would be sued or threatened.
I think it is pretty obvious to most audiences.
@@bradfordjhart I hope you are joking
Neo colonialism
Powered by "African Intelligence"
But they call Africa a 3rd world country. Go figure.
African Intelligence or Always Indians?😢
😂 which one being used
They choose Africa cause you now… AI 😢
Analogous to Actually Indians
I’ve heard of the meme of AI being "an Indian", it is said as a joke, implying that companies don’t really have AI, but a lot of slave work, but I guess it is AK a Kenyan…
That's not it. "Muhindi" or Indian is a reference to betting companies here in kenya.
Thankyou Dw. The people relly needed this📌
Thanks for watching!
Much needed documentary.. Appreciate your work.
No gig work is fair without the following:
1. Fair pay
2.Fair working conditions
3.Fair management
4.Fair contracts
5.Fair representation
The report comes at a time when AI is cruising to the peak. Great work to all the people involved in the production. We are informed and cautious.
One theory is that their labor on "helping machines" or "training machines" is NOT NEEDED because the most advanced machines are already existing with those in military levels. AND there is no real reports about the demand and supply of these technologies made available to the "common people" to stay informed. Despite mainstream media. The output required of them, usually can already be avoided but advanced tech deployment "requires more money", so it is not well distributed for civilian purposes to maximize profits for small groups. Thus the business here is NOT about tech improvement or providing jobs, but more about inflicting pain on the money-dependent workers for profit of competing small groups of legitimized businesses.
I also worked as a data annotator. I just earned 50-60 dollars working 2 months. Every day worked several hours.
Pole, that's what I used to make in writing in a single day.
In Uni most of us droped out to focus on these tasks, now I'm back in Uni because these companies are no longer hiring taskers from kenya
DW is doing what the government should be doing
Thank you DW for shining a light on these topics which I see everyone else is ignoring
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Slavery is all about money 💰
As one can see
Different century
Same model
Cheers from west Africa
🦅
Nothing.....absolutely nothing could be compared to Slavery by any stretch of imagination !
Thx. They like to call it 'Racism' - which make their cruel behavior a magic human trait. It is just about ice cold money....
Decent work must be respected, thank you DW
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We need more whisleblowers. Good reporting
Thank you for this video. It feels like the spiritual successor of the Clickworkers video you'd shown us several years ago.
You should do a video on how media companies exploit bad news like this for advertising revenu!
@@melaniabladeofmiquella I didn't mention everyone, only media companies, not individuals who choose to profit off bad news or not. Everyone is free to choose how to earn a living. While sharing information is good, it's a double eged sword due to the fact that any time bad news is shared for a profit, there is a vested interest by the company sharing that information continuing to share similar news. As dose any post or comment such as ours that gains likes from it as well.
How is a story being reported, "bad news being exploited"?
Lol
Aren't the people in the "bad news" worthy enough to have they're stories heard?
@@StanViviLeeWhen we focus on bad news that is monitized it creates a need for more bad news. Humans have a propensity for pattern recognition and perpetuation.
Sad for Kenyan youth 😭Slavery is all about money wether its digitalized model the worst things the government don't care about exploitation no strategy in place to protect young people. Cheap labour for few billionaire around the world 🌎. Thank you DW for the timely exposee 👏✅
Why the working conditions disparity: market-design for extraction of "cheap" labor and a dumping ground for big business overproduction or surpluses. No one explained to these workers the history of the IMF-WB and WTO. Despite our high tech and web media means. Thus, we are part of those that causes unnecessary sufferings that holds back genuine innovations and progress grounded on food security, soil health, and participatory governance.
It also surprises me that even after such exposés these corporations cannot and will not stop because their greed for money and disregard for human worth continues. They will keep recycling "workers"(accurate word would be slaves) until they have achieved their AI goals. The fact that there is always someone out there who needs an income these corporations are sure they have a continued supply of cheap labor force.
I am from India. They have started hiring in India too. Just recently they hired me. It was a work from home job. But very soon I found out that data annotation is very tedious job. Very very time taking. They expected me to complete 8-10 tasks per day. But it takes me whole day to complete even more than 1 task. They expect the data annotation to be best quality. They give completion ratings from 1 to 5. But I lied to them that my laptop has stopped working and left the job.
Factory reset it
Next time interview me, surprisingly working on a project that pays 1.3$ per hour "to clean the atmosphere." I was surprised to see the group of world billionaires we are working for, considering the amount of money set aside for carbon mitigation and the little we get to map all the areas,facilities, etc around the globe plus amount of CH2 & CO2......etc I have been in the field more than 5yrs but no tangible improvement in mylife😢
1.3 dollars per hour????? How is that even possible? 😢
@@annea5781Others pay cents per task. 0.08 per task that takes about 2½ minutes to complete. No job security as well.
Facebook did the dame over 15 tears ago, there had to be someone proofviewing these video contents. 😢
Worth reporting ❤ Thank you very much!❤
This is a world wide thing not just in Kenya
I sure hope social media content management doesn't get word of this 20 years ago.
ZAKAYO advocates for online jobs little did i know such tasks could harm one forever. 😢
thank you! I used to work for remotask the job is tiring.
It is really disappointing to hear such thing, thank you DW
Thanks for the insight.
Respective Governments need enact laws to protect its citizens. Create laws to govern work.
It is very hard to deal with these issues because when you fight for better working environment they close shop and move to India, Nigeria and Pakistan for even cheaper labor.
I heard the word freelance too many times to see this as exploitation because it implies they were ok with it all when signing up for the job.
Most of the problems mentioned are the responsibility of the freelancers themselves.
this happens in every industry..mining..agriculture..telecoms..you name it
As a former moderator for a social media, I can say that the report is givimg subjective truths. I've worked as a moderator for 3 years and coped with the same load of work. BUT I am stable and can handle it.
Come to Malawi our people can do anything as long as money is involved
Why do Kenyans and Zimbabweans suffer so much. It is sad and not right.😢
🔥🔥🔥needs exposure
The truth of this situation is that this is a cost to our whole civilisation that cannot be priced and to the harms that are being done both to the individual and to the poorest areas of the global civilisation. I think more broadly that all of the civilisation has a duty to resolve this situation from those that are creating or sharing atrocities. We must resolve this situation swiftly before greater impacts are seen throughout. Those benefitting the most financially from this are going to have to accept liability as with any harms caused in a workplace even if fines are levied against the stock price.
I still remember doing something like where you mark social media ads posting as "good" and "bad" for like 8 dollar/5minutes/days within about a year. No disturbing ads at all.
Then the job suddenly stopped and I got invite to do data annotation. They say the work is taken over by another company and the pay is like only 1/8 or 1/12 with hell lot of bullet points to follow.
Guess when they have discovered what they really want specifically to feed into AI, that's when they need human machines.
17:22 ~ The funny thing is these companies have outrageous hiring requirements and potential recruits have to undergo a rigorous vetting process and only get hired if they pass the checks. Then get to earn cents from tasks!!!
This is new to me 😮
The whole world is working directly or indirectly for growth of big techs. The fuel of these companies are humans. Life of people becoming more miserable w.r.t work life balance.
I believe they were given disclaimer before they could attempt any gig
... Just a thought
that make it right?
I understand this work is necessary, however, just like a factory offer safegurds for staff. Understand the metrics around doing this work and how much a person can manage without harm and offer follow up services for their wellbeing. Pay equitably as well surely.
Behind every successful product their is an African country. Google, openAI etc company should take responsibility.
First of all, these data anatators are heros. But they need to be paid a LOT, and given enough treatment in the expense of the company.
Same heroes sometimes don't wear capes ❤❤❤❤❤
There are EMTs, health care workers and emergency responders who see stuff like this all the time and go home to their families just fine every night. I think that there should have been more of an upfront choice on the projects and perhaps even a small pay bump for the harder work, but I don't believe we are traumatizing all of the third world with this. These jobs are a choice and if it isn't for you it isn't for you vote with your feet.
Please define “fine” - as a therapist, I see many first responders that are far from fine when exposed to traumatic situations/images. The garbage goes in and has an impact. It may not be perceptible immediately but it still has a compounding effect
Problem is whether the employees are informed or trained before a gruesome task is handed to them. Even media respect viewers by including a disclaimer concerning viewer's discretion. It's an injustice when no disclaimers are given since one cannot "unsee" or "unprocess" what they are cognitively exposed to.
There is exploitation of these workers, they are exposed to long tiring hours making cents and no mental support yet the job has traumatic effects
Platforms like Mechanical Turk hve been around for a while, not surprising there is a dark economy behind it.
AI won't need them from 2025, it can now do all that by itself and so much more.
Good reporting, but some context. I am from Kenya, and legal minimum wage starts from approximately $1per hour. Many are actually paid less, for more hazardous work.
So if US tech firms are paying double the minimum wage it can't be so bad for employees.
Although they should (if they dont) inform employees of content they have to analyse, and let the people decide if they want to work there or not.
12:49 The question is not Why they had to give this dialogues, it’s about mental health and how to keep this workers mentally healthy…..and yes second question after that is, why is this necessary and for what aka WHY
They just want to be able to stay sane, in their workplace. It’s not that had to understand if you are actually trying to.
They keep the world “sane” and “safe” from themselves, so at the very least give them an outlet for all YOUR DEMONS.
Because someone is going to use that question and act on it. You are not training AI, people are going to use it.
bagus juga dah tahu sikit2, offline pun dah cukup bagus. tapi kena selongkar banyak perkara juga.
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these are the jobs Ruto is talking about?
unafinya kompyuta, unapata dollar
Yes, imagine!
imagine anxiety from harassment by fellow humans
I do outliers and they have good payments. Not with Kenyan accounts though. Currently earning $30 per hour which is really good in this economy
I worked for Appen to train AI to differentiate and understand query and suggested outcomes, $2 an hour. That was so emotionally draining given the racist content 😢. I still have an active profile.
The companies don’t want to have better work conditions that’s why they’re in Kenya and if you continue to ask for better conditions, there won’t be the companies in Kenya. They’ll just go to another one. All of us humans only exist to benefit the wealthy that is the majority thought in all of the wealthy. Don’t you get that yet?
how do i get these jobs guys?
If you get how tag me
😂😂
😂😂😂 we mzee
The jobs are hard to find, the companies blocked Africans and no amount of VPN can help
We need to survive 😢
Asian workers bribe for low-wage factory jobs due to limited alternatives. Critics of "sweatshops" ignore that such jobs often pay more than local options, offering better working conditions. The Asia you all admire and travel to all got their start from sweatshops..
The premise of this video is wrong. There are two main issues from what I can tell in this video
1. Graphic or disturbing content that may affect the trainer.
2. The pay is inadequate for the work involve.
On point 1 this is an obvious and straightforward answer. The companies need to inform people of what they will be doing and what the content may include and be very transparent on it.
2. Is where people will get offend and to disclose I am a Kenyan. At the end of the day. The reason why the pay is so low is because that’s how the companies will make more profits. From a companies perspective why pay high amounts in the USA while you can outsource Labour. This is not only being done in this sector but so many other sectors. Another side that if they where to pay Kenyans equal amounts as they would let’s say in USA then why come to Kenya the average US citizen will hold a higher IQ and USA Labour laws are not as strict as Kenya so even better. The fact is the only reason why the Labour market is appealing in Kenya to these AI companies is because it’s cheap. If you wish to resolve the problem then these trainers need to start a joint business where they all have an equal share and contract out there work. But then again the AI companies can always choose another country. Fact is if you don’t like the job in the first three months well then take your tale out of your legs and enter the job market!
What are you even saying
What most people with a little bit of common sense have been discussing about. This AI hype isn't free of human explotation.
I did this work on toloka for 3 years and earned roughly 600$ pure exploitation
Hamjui penye mnatafuta kazi za pesa mzuri😂😂
I have the screenshot of minimal payments I received from remotask before it was closed
This Data Annotation Jobs are increasing Day by Day in India also. I know many people who are involved in this Jobs
So,John Doe did that work too, he is doing good in Nairobi, Kenya...Cover that too
What happened to the other documentary that was about the click workers who monitor the internet . I wonder if they scrubbed it off the internet
good content
Information is power
This is very interesting....and.... complicated....in the 50s, 60s, and maybe after 2000.... life of human is obviously not like that, naw is more crazy...l understand people have to make money for living, but this is out of the blue, l fell sorry for this people,...be strong in mind..💪👍.....the capital Sistem don't care about nothing.....be strong...be strong....👋🙂
We’ve been saying this for 2 years
"We employ the unemployable"😡😡😡
It is sad to see that companies in Kenya behave like those in the West or China
What are you talking about? The west and china have much higher living standards than Kenya. Maybe blame the Kenyan govt and their own leaders and lawmakers responsible for the country first before foreign for profit companies. They don’t owe Kenyans handouts.
Are these companies in Kenya? or the Jobs are available online?....if it's online Jobs,the government has nothing to do with it,it's people who decide to do the online Jobs....
@@leonalee392 These are online jobs and the reason we blame the Kenyan government is that the economy is not growing so students graduate from university and there are no employment opportunities for the majority. The same government, instead of dealing with the issue, gave a solution for unemployed youth to look for online jobs. The people taking these jobs are doing so out of desperation to survive a very tough economic environment where we have nothing called 'unemployment benefits'. You must find a way to survive. This is the same govt that offers Kenyans work abroad as househelps in the middle east where stories of exploitation and modern slavery are so common. Instead of giving Kenyans options to work and make a living in Kenya, and build the country, they tell Kenyans to find jobs elsewhere and hence this is the result.
Poor people have always been used on this planet that's the bitter truth
Is it done by chatgpt and geminia ?
Prefer peace over violence. Don't go for this jobs.
Bias aside and considering context, many young Kenyans are unemployed or do manual labor (mjengo) for about 5 dollars per day (ksh600) largely due to systemic (gatekeepers and middlemen) and political (zakayo) issues. So $1-5 per hour , though ridiculous globally, is a good entry point for gaining digital skills and experience.
I need this job. Someone link me up
The United nations should step in on the area of human rights.the AI community in kenya should get a trade union.if need be the adversely affected should litigate.some of the issues constitute torture inhumane cruel degrading treatment.its like child labour.the AU though useless should come up with a charter on such workers but most governments don't care about the work force so long ad foreign exchange is harvested.medical psychiatric bodies ad legal bodies should speak up
The issue is just money rise but what they are doing is good. Labelling,is not bad.we also must have a testing model in anything. Africa will always come last im a kenyan and this i know
Wow 👍
I have a story about a company that is not paying Kenyans for their efforts. It's a freelance company
Scale AI from america do this kind of job.
Early on I was part of the team but quit because of my moral values I live by
pay them more, and give them a random bonus. now!
Listen some of what I heard in this video. Reminds of the text in the word of God that says by beholding you become change.
Just after watching Biggii from @Sandwich podcast