This amalgamation caused so much rivalry especially between stackers and trogs.. nobody who joined there previously chosen corps wanted this to happen and there were alot of unhappy troops because of it early on..
Yep we were still using the very old Foden Fuel Tankers that were falling to pieces, You and your tanker were like a mobile petrol station. You could bulk deliver or set up hoses like those at a petrol station. Quality control never happened, hatches would be open when using the tanker to deliver fuel, so would get rain, and bits of trees, leaves in the tanks, fuel spills often due to the old hoses leaking, and made up the amount of fuel being delivered to other vehicles or tanks, since you had to be on top of the tanker to dip the tank and then try and read the level on the rod, which in the dark impossible, yep we were never given any torches, plus you might be in the middle of nowhere where you have 20 - 30 vehicles to fill up, so had no time to check the fuel amount between each vehicle. And even though we were supposed to be doubled manned on each vehicle, we were so under strength i never had any help in 3 years always worked alone.
I’m almost embarrassed to ask this, but it seems the centre of the cap badge is taken from the old Royal ArmyOrdnance Corp cap badge. Now a very drunk RAOC corporal told me that the cannon balls on the badge are larger than the cannons because at some battle years ago the Ordinance people delivered the wrong cannon balls to the Artillery and this was a badge of shame. Is there any truth to this? or was it a monumental wind up. I suspect it’s a wind up but I’m still wound up.
Wind up! The three cannons and cannonballs are the badge of the Master General of the Ordnance, a military appointment going back to Tudor times. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master-General_of_the_Ordnance
It was a bad move allowing the Pioneers to amalgamate with the RLC. The Pioneers agreed to start including potential NCOs from the rest of the Corp and to attempt their Junior Promotions Course. That idea was binned after a few courses in, it turn out they weren't up to standard. There was a clear distinction between infantry and non infantry trained Soldiers and it was painfully obvious.
The Pioneers were crap anyway. We had one who was a 22 year private thick as **** Most Pioneers I met were just used as labour saving scapegoats for the R Signals
@@Stanly-Stud It's depending on which era of Pioneer you're referring too, any Pioneer who joined after 1985 who done their training at Queens Depot Bassingbourn with the Royal Fusiliers, Queens Regiment and Royal Anglians, they're normally sent and based at infantry field force unit as Riflemen and would be tasked with infantry and Assault Pioneer tasks such as in NI, Iraq and Afghanistan for force protection, IED search teams, and patrolling, if shown promise as basic training instructors and at Sandhurst too, not for Labour support. Yes they're Labour support Units pacifically task to provide artisan skills and working with ammunition and manual work, however those personal tend to favour that role than the more demanding Infantry roles. I served in two Infantry Field force units in the UK and served in 200,211 and 202 Signal Squadrons as their Defence NCO and Brigadier protection group in Germany during the 90s. We all saw what was coming and made decisions to take an alternative career path, some joined the RMPs and most went for the Supply Controllers and other Regiments elsewhere. I opted for the technical trade Supply Controllers which was a very good decision, there was the choice of basic Store man but they had limited opportunities and I didn't fancy packing boxes all day.
@@IwasBraveFor2WholeSeconds I joined the RA originally in '85 & saw Pioneers in Hohne attached to R Signals ( later I met Pioneers when I re- badged to the R Signals) The Pioneers before had navy blue berets & the Blackpool Tower cap badge but as you wrote later wore the infantry beret . Personally I wouldn't class them as real Infantry They were attached to the R Signals guarding the Div Main HQ ..etc The jobs the R Signals didn't want to waste man power on. Also in camp we had one used as an RP, he was a dick who got battered. Some stores like clothing store. 2nd rate Infantry Also I can't see any Pioneers going Rmp 🤣
@@Stanly-Stud Yeah unfortunately those guys prior 1985 were sent to Labour support Squadrons 522 and 521 Companies. Pretty much were tasked to provide artisan support and labour support. The new trained generation were sent to 187 and 518 Company as Riflemen tasked as infantry field force, defence, force protection and all arm search teams, mine clearance and Assault Pioneers. Most of all the NCOs and SNCO have done junior and Senior Brecon, many have done P Company, instructors at Depot and Sandhurst. Those today who have stayed in are Captains, Majors and Lt Cols, bearing in mind those joined post 1985. While I was retrading many of my colleagues transferred across to the Suppy Controllers and were doing very well.
@@IwasBraveFor2WholeSeconds I had an uncle who was a Pioneer in WW2. I only found out years later when I saw his medals & he had a certificate signed by Montgomery because apparently he drove him ( how long I don't know) just what my mother said. The certificate I did see. He certainly wasn't stupid..anything but Liked his whisky
Why put 1994 in the title when it mentions 1993 it was Monday 5th April 1993 The RLC was formed"Royal Logistic Corps - Wikipedia" en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Logistic_Corps
This amalgamation caused so much rivalry especially between stackers and trogs.. nobody who joined there previously chosen corps wanted this to happen and there were alot of unhappy troops because of it early on..
Absolutely
Bit of a stab in the dark but Is that dobbo I remember from from 61 ammo sqn?
But grogs are better lol
Don't forget the Slop jockies...cooks were in there too.
Love it! RLC 93-2005, set me up for life 😊
Yep we were still using the very old Foden Fuel Tankers that were falling to pieces, You and your tanker were like a mobile petrol station. You could bulk deliver or set up hoses like those at a petrol station. Quality control never happened, hatches would be open when using the tanker to deliver fuel, so would get rain, and bits of trees, leaves in the tanks, fuel spills often due to the old hoses leaking, and made up the amount of fuel being delivered to other vehicles or tanks, since you had to be on top of the tanker to dip the tank and then try and read the level on the rod, which in the dark impossible, yep we were never given any torches, plus you might be in the middle of nowhere where you have 20 - 30 vehicles to fill up, so had no time to check the fuel amount between each vehicle. And even though we were supposed to be doubled manned on each vehicle, we were so under strength i never had any help in 3 years always worked alone.
Used to enjoy driving across country in the Drops.
See a few old faces I served with as RCT Maritime. I got out March 93. A month before the RCT to RLC rebadge.
You just don't get informational videos like this anymore
11:54 my old CO on the right.
I’m almost embarrassed to ask this, but it seems the centre of the cap badge is taken from the old Royal ArmyOrdnance Corp cap badge. Now a very drunk RAOC corporal told me that the cannon balls on the badge are larger than the cannons because at some battle years ago the Ordinance people delivered the wrong cannon balls to the Artillery and this was a badge of shame. Is there any truth to this? or was it a monumental wind up. I suspect it’s a wind up but I’m still wound up.
Wind up! The three cannons and cannonballs are the badge of the Master General of the Ordnance, a military appointment going back to Tudor times.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master-General_of_the_Ordnance
It was a bad move allowing the Pioneers to amalgamate with the RLC. The Pioneers agreed to start including potential NCOs from the rest of the Corp and to attempt their Junior Promotions Course. That idea was binned after a few courses in, it turn out they weren't up to standard. There was a clear distinction between infantry and non infantry trained Soldiers and it was painfully obvious.
The Pioneers were crap anyway. We had one who was a 22 year private thick as ****
Most Pioneers I met were just used as labour saving scapegoats for the R Signals
@@Stanly-Stud It's depending on which era of Pioneer you're referring too, any Pioneer who joined after 1985 who done their training at Queens Depot Bassingbourn with the Royal Fusiliers, Queens Regiment and Royal Anglians, they're normally sent and based at infantry field force unit as Riflemen and would be tasked with infantry and Assault Pioneer tasks such as in NI, Iraq and Afghanistan for force protection, IED search teams, and patrolling, if shown promise as basic training instructors and at Sandhurst too, not for Labour support. Yes they're Labour support Units pacifically task to provide artisan skills and working with ammunition and manual work, however those personal tend to favour that role than the more demanding Infantry roles. I served in two Infantry Field force units in the UK and served in 200,211 and 202 Signal Squadrons as their Defence NCO and Brigadier protection group in Germany during the 90s. We all saw what was coming and made decisions to take an alternative career path, some joined the RMPs and most went for the Supply Controllers and other Regiments elsewhere. I opted for the technical trade Supply Controllers which was a very good decision, there was the choice of basic Store man but they had limited opportunities and I didn't fancy packing boxes all day.
@@IwasBraveFor2WholeSeconds
I joined the RA originally in '85 & saw Pioneers in Hohne attached to R Signals ( later I met Pioneers when I re- badged to the R Signals)
The Pioneers before had navy blue berets & the Blackpool Tower cap badge but as you wrote later wore the infantry beret .
Personally I wouldn't class them as real Infantry
They were attached to the R Signals guarding the Div Main HQ ..etc
The jobs the R Signals didn't want to waste man power on.
Also in camp we had one used as an RP, he was a dick who got battered.
Some stores like clothing store.
2nd rate Infantry
Also I can't see any Pioneers going Rmp 🤣
@@Stanly-Stud Yeah unfortunately those guys prior 1985 were sent to Labour support Squadrons 522 and 521 Companies. Pretty much were tasked to provide artisan support and labour support. The new trained generation were sent to 187 and 518 Company as Riflemen tasked as infantry field force, defence, force protection and all arm search teams, mine clearance and Assault Pioneers. Most of all the NCOs and SNCO have done junior and Senior Brecon, many have done P Company, instructors at Depot and Sandhurst. Those today who have stayed in are Captains, Majors and Lt Cols, bearing in mind those joined post 1985. While I was retrading many of my colleagues transferred across to the Suppy Controllers and were doing very well.
@@IwasBraveFor2WholeSeconds
I had an uncle who was a Pioneer in WW2. I only found out years later when I saw his medals & he had a certificate signed by Montgomery because apparently he drove him ( how long I don't know) just what my mother said.
The certificate I did see.
He certainly wasn't stupid..anything but
Liked his whisky
10:09 fragile handle with care 😂😂😂
Really Large Corps.
British military history
Trogs !
Seamless system................! 😂
Any one who uses the phrase "with military precision" has never served in the military.
@@maxbodymass6288 ain’t that the truth! 😁👍🏼
Really Lazy Corps
Why put 1994 in the title when it mentions 1993 it was Monday 5th April 1993 The RLC was formed"Royal Logistic Corps - Wikipedia" en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Logistic_Corps
it's when the video was released!