@ThinkTooMuch69 not if you lazy taterheads would use this fancy space age device called a drag and maintain your shit🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ take your bs driveway elsewhere I'll save my money drink a beer and drive my wheeler around twice a year pulling a $20 driveway drag 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@destynova4512 I have had a regular drive outside my house for about twenty years. I have experienced precisely zero problems with it in that time. If I *had* problems with it, then I guess I'd have just installed a tarmac drive. Both options are cheap (or cheaper at least, though I'm just guessing from what I've seen how much that fancy gravel driveway costs), work perfectly well and are not very labor-intensive.
Ok, go stick in concrete... oh no, you've just spent $20k and now you have to rip it out because you don't understand permeability requirements... (also the person that made the driveway didn't understand them either or would have used washed rock). There are places you just can't go sticking in as much surface as you would like, no matter what you think your god given rights are.
@@GX2reoh really now? Bc im willing to be you money right now that i can get a quote from 2 different companies that says otherwise on the cost of installing this bullshit over concrete
They installed this system at a new building for my company. It was like driving through slush, threw up rocks that broke windows, and the plastic grid started to come up out of the rocks after only a few weeks. In less than a year it was completely ripped out and replaced with concrete. EDIT: For everyone saying that we drove on it wrong, or went too fast, or there was too much traffic. The only way into the area was through a security gate that you needed a code for. We moved into the offices in August 2022, but the building was not yet open to the public. (As of this writing: January 2024, it still isn't.) For the majority of the time, the staff of 3 were the only ones in the building. Within a month of the offices being opened, management was already talking about having the gravel replaced with concrete.
Sounds like it would only be good in driveways(small and very low speed), as opposed to parking lots. I also wonder if the prep was incorrect in the case you described.
@@mikemccausland6587 The issue with flying rock was due to them getting into the grass and them being thrown when the grass was cut. There was no way to be certain there were no rocks anywhere in the grass because they would be picked up and carried the car tires or in your shoes. (We parked on the grass, which just made it worse.) They ended up everywhere, including up inside the framework of the cars driving over it.
Compacted crushed stone isn’t permeable. My company installs permeable paver systems and I can tell you that system doesn’t work the way the voiceover claims. You have to use a washed stone base…not crushed. The weed barrier is permeable, but the stone isn’t.
There is a house with a permeable driveway about half a mile down the road from me. I guess it's about eight years now and there are ruts in it. The shiny gravel is still mostly there, but the gravel has spread out a bit in all directions especially towards the street. Theirs is permeable because it had washed aggregate where the fines were removed. Some weeds can grow on it as winds, tree sap, cottonwood, pollen, mold, etc over the years have deposited enough material to allow weeds to grow in it. The house is on its 2nd owner and they pulled the weeds as it recently looked clear of any growth. But it does rut but certainly far far less than simply pouring gravel over dirt.
My stepdad works construction and this was practically his response 😂 "everyone's got their own thing, not my house not my problem till they ask for help"
Won’t they also because he’s putting in a barrier to stop water that makes it thru the compacted drive being as it’s not completely solid not be able to be absorbed by the ground to cause the lower level to break up and eventually cause the upper level to break up causing cracks all over it ?
As someone who’s been using the same gravel driveway since 1955 I can assure you that multiple layers over that time span eventually turns harder than concrete. Of course it takes a couple decades to get there😄😄😄. I haven’t had to add any new stone for 25 years. PS: although this is all true I only intend to add a little humor.
Yea We have a long gravel driveway and it’s so dusty when I mow And when I clean a car it gets dirty again when I move it back to where it was because of the dust :/
My husband though so too. Until winter came and he saw exactly what I meant by "it's not gonna lie where you put it". The cars dug through the gravel and into the clay below, and we had several situation where he used over an hour to get the car loose, and had to call people to come and help him push it. Then we put down a system like this. Never had issues like previously mentioned again.
@@minacapella8319”maintenance level of concrete” what? Brother a concrete driveway will last 25-30 years. Like you really don’t even gotta do anything.
I couldn’t think of something to compare it to, but it does look institutionalized and not attractive to the curb appeal! I would not want to buy that home if it were up for sale and had that blacked out driveway!
@@IdealConsciencehey man, look at how he used a homemade leveler out of just immaculate untouched wood bought fresh for this, and immaculate clean rope bought fresh for this, he's such a based guy just working hard!!!!
@@ileftarosebud Yeah, but in the comments you get a spectrum of nuance, from people who vibe, to people who don't, and everywhere in between ar people sharing their opinions just like fi you talked to people irl about the same thing
A weed barrier is one thing, but it's the dirt and leaf litter on top which causes weed problems eventually. Dirt is trapped in the gravel and stuff just grows. Every time - without fail
lol! I was thinking something similar.. Gotta show it after it rains w/1-3” precipitation. It’s really thin so after a few months of driving (parking) on it with anything heavier than 1/2 ton truck that be plastic will be crushed .. gravity , never forget about gravity! I just think that kinda important.
@@dschaedler Lol... Yes it's all about "nature". Concrete has many advantages. If you're that "pro nature" maybe you should live in the woods and live 100% sustainably like the idiotic climate protesters blocking roads.
Right? My friend was looking for "green" ideas at work cuz they asked him to. He found a spray that claimed to lower greenhouses gases. All you do is spray it on your building evenly. Two coats work even better, and once it dries, its invisible! Its almost as if you did do a damn thing! Well, wastimg time and money and creating more plastix garbage is a thing...
Hmm idk. I think the product itself is useful and has uses. It’s good at levelling and also making sure the gravel doesn’t move too much over time as it’s held in place by the lattice rather than just kinda pounded together by the compacter. I’ve personally used it (only in a very small project to level ground for a shed) and it’s pretty good, easy to use, and also takes up a lot of space that would otherwise be gravel (which whilst cheap ish, is a pain in the ass to move around so having to use less of it is nice
Oh. That makes sense. The whole time i was like "yeah, sure is green to introduce more plastic to erode into yhe environment with all the friction from yhe rocks and weathering from water passing through it"
It is an ad, but it doesn't mean it is a useless product. It's like seeing an advertisement for prescription glasses and calling it a scam because you have good vision. L take, especially when this product gets plastic out of landfills, and actually adds stability and support to a gravel driveway.
Depending on where you live some counties have a strict concrete/asphalt to land plot ratio and won’t allow for that much material and you are forced to have gravel
@@NTFZ That's around what it is for a set of them. You get around 30-50 sq ft per set in coverage. A "normal" sized driveway would probably cost +/- $500 in this stuff.
@@eftheusempireOf course not, as first earth and seeds are blown onto the gravel, then the weed comes. But this is, how we use them, to stabilize green. Without the liners below and without clean gravel, just use the dirt laying around. We WANT that the nature takes back and is not turned to mud when sometimes a car comes by. Not for everyday use.
@@76marji no weeds are growing out of 4 inches of crushed compacted rock. you might get a weed or 2 but its growing out of dirt/seed from the top, nothing is growing from the botttom.
I remember my dad learning the hard way about the vengeance of dandelions when he put weed barrier cloth down. They made a full invasion and tore up that cloth within less than 2 weeks. I saw less dedication to protect in plants vs zombies than I did in those dandelions.
@@user-vh8lv1lm4j Glad to have made you smile, to add to the comedy my dad ending up ripping out each flower and giving them names that were profanity.
Looks like a good way to seal the area. The one before looked better. And another one without that sealing stuff and more green would look even better.
"How is this different from me having a ton of gravel just being dumped and me spreading it over with a rake? " "Well, this way you pay me 4500 dollars"
@@PebloCostibar that's not really what happens dude you still get all that just with chunks of plastic you will be cleaning up forever. I've been doing commercial and residential landscaping for 15 years I've installed these before by request and was called back to remove every single one within 2 years because the plastic breaks within 6 months and you have plastic bits that stick out everywhere and that's ifthe plastic itself doesn't straight up work its way out and poke halfway out of the rock this stuff only makes sence on a steep hill that rock won't normally stay on...
@@Crackpidgeonextreme Ok this just popped into my head what would happen if instead of plastic it was metal would it last longer? What would the Pros and Cons be.
Bumps are good… and it settles out. Its always permeable There’s a huge pipe under it, so it’s collecting water… problem is he puts tar paper and plastic in it… so you shouldn’t drink that water or farm with it without distilling and filtering I don’t get why you’d use this? It’d just break apart into nano particles
@@zheil9152 there is an app called return youtube dislike for chrome. the dislike is still there just removed from view. unless the video author (like this) goes out of their way to completely disable dislikes. hmm dunno why anyone would do that for something they are promoting.
you dont need the grid mould. All you need to do is excavate to make a neat area to hold the 4" deep gravel fill. Pour a concrete containment curb to limit gravel spread, and fill the excavated tray with #57 lime rock or granite gravel, and tamp as needed. A containment curb can be made with 2x12 PT ground contact wood.
It doesnt because after abt a month when its completely ripped up they replace it with concrete and they contemplate an incompitent labor lawsuit against the company that installed it 😂
Glad to see at least one company figured out how to make recycling profitable. You're literally paying them for the opportunity to bury their trash in your yard. Absolutely genius
@jmckendry84 because with the cost of materials and labor to do this you could of just poured a concrete pad. So you are paying a company to put junk plastic and bury it in your property lol
@@frogking5573 You could also use concrete made from recycled plastic instead. South Africa has been using it for its asphalt roads, and apparently they last much longer than any other kind (works for concrete too). Only problem is, companies make less money because you don't have to replace your driveway as often, so thats a no go too.
@@bastik.3011honestly I think it's a great idea. Although anywhere I'm worried about pressure I'd probably pave it or something. That being said for a budget driveway or one out in the country or just not city this is solid and will keep that gravel where it needs to be a long time. Although so does just putting it in a 4inch deep hole or whatever.
@@bastik.3011I have a client that uses this system and it’s pretty cool for keeping the driveway flat but it does Need touch up often in the first few years as the rocks break apart and degrade.
@@RUclips_is_complete-total_shit Its not a thing in the USA i lnow but here in Germany there are laws about how much of your property you are allowed to seal and these have the advantage of letting water through
Check out mechanical concrete if you’re thinking of doing something like this. Same idea, but they uses old tires from the junkyard and secure then together.
En mi terreno quité yerbas, emparejé el suelo, le puse tres pulgadas de grava y duró mucho. Hay que arrancar los brotes en tiempo de lluvia, pero son muy pocos.
It’s called Cellular Confinement and it’s been around for decades. It was never designed to be a permeable solution. It was designed for stabilization and erosion control. The plastic pieces should also be fastened to the ground with spikes before backfilling. When done properly, a system like this can support a 60,000 pound fire truck. And that’s on grass.
I have been looking at doing this with grass also . Since I'm in the Midwest, I'm generally hesitant about how things will be with snow removal. First time I saw it done right was at Newfields in Indianapolis
@@jamesrehak2016 I here ya brother,I'm from New England so we deal with the same shit, those plows tear all kinds of landscaping up,it's not like they can see were the street or parking lot ends
Rubbish dump owner 1: "We gotta find a way to get rid of all this platic waste, and it would be nice if people would pay us for the privilege" Rubbish dump owner 2: "I got you brother"
@yono367 not by coty regulations at least... you need roadbase with a specific hydration and compaction level to be even allowed to pave. That's how it is in Colorado
@@ceraunoashe9134 the regulations are for public roads. But yeah, you still need a finger aggregate before the binder and then the asphalt. But it was simply a humorous comment, meant to say that was a nice and compact base
I done my 1,390 ft driveway with used car & truck tires with the side walls cut out of them and screwed them together and then used crushed concrete for base and the good stuff for the rest.
Is barely permeable: Weed barrier will hold water in puddles, rock was compacted before plastic mesh making it difficult for water to get through. Water will likely pool in the mesh of the plastic. Is bad for environment: 100% recycled plastic or not, you’re still putting 2 layers of plastic in the ground, both of which will likely become damaged. Plastic will be in your soil. It’s not long lasting: Concrete and asphalt, although they do have cons, are long lasting. Gravel often gets messy and new gravel is needed often to maintain a gravel driveway. Whether using typical gravel, or this type, regular maintenance is required for it to look good. Typically gravel though, does have the previous cons.
The weed barrier isn’t plastic though. It’s a woven fabric like material. Water will go right through with little to no resistance as long as you use the correct stone. The plastic grid is used to strengthen the system. It’s typically used as a “grass-pave” system. In my area we use it for emergency vehicle driveways through landscape areas with sod on top for retirement complexes and apartments/condos. Everything he used in the video is permeable except the stone.
To everyone that think this will flood this will not at most it will be a danger when doing the lawn and shoot rocks at the very most! You guys really need to stop being driveway cretics and realize this guy has been doing this type of work for a long time much longer than you have and I’m sure the customer is not going to pay a few grand for a new job that will just flood again
Hate to say it but this isn’t permeable. When you have multiple layers of compacted rock, that’s eventually going to be filled with sand and other fine materials, it will come in permeable. It doesn’t have to be asphalt to be non-permeable. Think about the bottom of a river or even a puddle. It’s sitting on top of Dirt, which is compacted fine rocks yet water doesn’t go through
What makes you think this is an ad? I have zero affiliation with this produce. They did not pay me and they did not provide any free product. Thanks for watching though.
“Yup-we tore down that shed and the guest house to get some extra 5/8 minus gravel in there. Gonna knock down the daughter’s room to get a bit more space for the shaved granite with a plastic base…”
Curious how much this costs compared to a concrete slab driveway. Also everyone with a gravel driveway isn't just cheap. Probably most but not all. Many counties building code will not let more than a certain percentage of your property be covered in concrete. Concrete doesn't drain. Permeable is the key word here. So if you're already having flooding problems this might make more sense with or without the building code issues.
My next door neighbor had a business doing dirt work and installing septic systems. He always swore by putting down a base layer of 1 and 2 size rock, packing it down and later covering it with light gravel. It really made a strong base. I trust his method over this any day of the week.
Your neighbor knows what he's doing. It's not rocket science and didn't need to be complicated or unnecessarily expensive, like I'm sure this shit show was.
This might actually be a slightly better option for some of the crazy jurisdictions that require massive water drainage considerations... we have ditches in our front yards these days.
It would have been nice if you could have given some prices so we could get a better educated guess on weather we want to use it . I know prices of gravel will be different everywhere but the cost breakdown would be great . Could save people minutes looking it up only to have nightmares for weeks .
The country club I used to work for used this on a section of the golf cart path that needed a quick repair while they allocated money to repave it. It cost them over $2000 and it washed out in a heavy rain 2 weeks after it was installed.
90% drive way 10% house
just how lightning mc-queen intended
Car guys house for sure just needs a little shop
the wife wont understand...
Typical American house 👍 😂
How else are you going to fit all of the new models from every brand?
It's like a regular gravel driveway, but with extra steps
Ehhh gravel doesn’t hold shape really at all tho. You’ll get ditches eventually
No, much better. No pits forming from crevices. No water draining away lines of gravel into the road. Not weed sprouting.
@ThinkTooMuch69 not if you lazy taterheads would use this fancy space age device called a drag and maintain your shit🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ take your bs driveway elsewhere I'll save my money drink a beer and drive my wheeler around twice a year pulling a $20 driveway drag 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
did you miss permeable?
@@p6v665crushed rock isn’t permeable, washed rock is. Voiceover is inaccurate
The only reason people would have a gravel driveway is that they’re cheap, if you make it not cheap then just get it paved
Thanks. I was like is anybody going to notice he could have had asphalt cheaper.
Yep, I came here to just say ..why?
This system is probably just for places where the perma frost would ruin concrete. This will last longer.
I just cannot understand how anyone could think this is worth whatever it cost.
I had one installed, worth every penny.
Why not just get concrete @@erockbrox8484
@@erockbrox8484 can you explain the point to me? is it also installed on top of impermeable coating like in this video?
@Naa-ee7nq my guess would be it helps it last longer, keeps it all in place from washing away from weather and such.
@@destynova4512 I have had a regular drive outside my house for about twenty years. I have experienced precisely zero problems with it in that time. If I *had* problems with it, then I guess I'd have just installed a tarmac drive. Both options are cheap (or cheaper at least, though I'm just guessing from what I've seen how much that fancy gravel driveway costs), work perfectly well and are not very labor-intensive.
You combined the high cost and intense labour of a cement driveway with the mediocrity of a gravel driveway lmao
Ok, go stick in concrete... oh no, you've just spent $20k and now you have to rip it out because you don't understand permeability requirements... (also the person that made the driveway didn't understand them either or would have used washed rock).
There are places you just can't go sticking in as much surface as you would like, no matter what you think your god given rights are.
Cement driveway will cost way more 😂
@@petergraphix6740you need a license/permit to pour concrete 😂
@@petergraphix6740and permission from the county to do so anyone just can run around pouring mixes like no tomorrow
@@GX2reoh really now? Bc im willing to be you money right now that i can get a quote from 2 different companies that says otherwise on the cost of installing this bullshit over concrete
They installed this system at a new building for my company. It was like driving through slush, threw up rocks that broke windows, and the plastic grid started to come up out of the rocks after only a few weeks. In less than a year it was completely ripped out and replaced with concrete.
EDIT: For everyone saying that we drove on it wrong, or went too fast, or there was too much traffic. The only way into the area was through a security gate that you needed a code for. We moved into the offices in August 2022, but the building was not yet open to the public. (As of this writing: January 2024, it still isn't.) For the majority of the time, the staff of 3 were the only ones in the building.
Within a month of the offices being opened, management was already talking about having the gravel replaced with concrete.
Jesus lmfao
Sounds like it would only be good in driveways(small and very low speed), as opposed to parking lots. I also wonder if the prep was incorrect in the case you described.
@@dearboy05 It wasn't a parking lot. It was a semi-circular driveway.
i would imagine rocks would fly but the thing is you should only be driving 10mph in a car park so im wondering......
@@mikemccausland6587 The issue with flying rock was due to them getting into the grass and them being thrown when the grass was cut. There was no way to be certain there were no rocks anywhere in the grass because they would be picked up and carried the car tires or in your shoes. (We parked on the grass, which just made it worse.) They ended up everywhere, including up inside the framework of the cars driving over it.
it would be permeable but you used the heavy ass excavator to compact the soil beyond permeability
a. not an excavator... b. you obviously don't know how tracks or gravel or probably anything works... but this is stupid.
"How much microplastic do you want your driveway to leak?"
"All of it please!"
🤓☝️erm actually microplastics are stored in the balls
Compacted crushed stone isn’t permeable. My company installs permeable paver systems and I can tell you that system doesn’t work the way the voiceover claims. You have to use a washed stone base…not crushed. The weed barrier is permeable, but the stone isn’t.
Correct
Oh no...
If you take out the sand and silt fraction crushed rock is permable.
And here I thought the Barrier was the problem.
The fabric will be permeable to weeds in the future. Nothing can stop them 😅
$500,000 later, we had a gravel driveway
no doubt.....imagine winter melt and them filling up , then night time hits temps go back down.....I got a rink
What a damn mess
There is a house with a permeable driveway about half a mile down the road from me. I guess it's about eight years now and there are ruts in it. The shiny gravel is still mostly there, but the gravel has spread out a bit in all directions especially towards the street. Theirs is permeable because it had washed aggregate where the fines were removed. Some weeds can grow on it as winds, tree sap, cottonwood, pollen, mold, etc over the years have deposited enough material to allow weeds to grow in it. The house is on its 2nd owner and they pulled the weeds as it recently looked clear of any growth. But it does rut but certainly far far less than simply pouring gravel over dirt.
@@animejanai4657 Interesting.
LMAO, really!
This is actually a product originally used in agriculture, especially livestock and it works wonders. Idk about driveways though
"Sir there is a bit of house on my driveway" 💀
I’m no expert….. wait a minute, yes I am. This is not the correct rock if you want it to be permeable. Low spots will definitely pool.
I put down a lot of 3/4 minus crusher run, it turns into an impermeable surface in a hurry with any decent compaction.
My stepdad works construction and this was practically his response 😂 "everyone's got their own thing, not my house not my problem till they ask for help"
Won’t they also because he’s putting in a barrier to stop water that makes it thru the compacted drive being as it’s not completely solid not be able to be absorbed by the ground to cause the lower level to break up and eventually cause the upper level to break up causing cracks all over it ?
Are you able to plow your driveway in the winter snowstorms
@@newbluerugby well with great care !
"Instead of bringing this plastic to the landfill, we put it in the ground"
And we wonder why we have microplstics in the drinking water and our testosterone goes down
Plastic layer beneath and plastic grid is disgusting
@@andreasstuermer4946iono bout you but Im on my fifth chunk of irradiated plastic and Im feeling manly
Blame the manufacturer not the consumer
The bigger the Carbon FootPrint the better!💯👍
Bro has a bedroom that's blended in the kitchen,and a toilet,but has this drive way💀
As someone who’s been using the same gravel driveway since 1955 I can assure you that multiple layers over that time span eventually turns harder than concrete. Of course it takes a couple decades to get there😄😄😄. I haven’t had to add any new stone for 25 years.
PS: although this is all true I only intend to add a little humor.
"Driveway" = "entire property"
“Next we tore down the house and replaced it with a Dutch gravel retention and sunning system.”
Presumptuous and pointless statement with nothing to prove it right or wrong.
Are you blind? Don't you see that tiny shack which has 1 room (multipurpose bedroom, kitchen, bathroom, living room all-in-one)?
Maybe it's a driveway for little planes
@@bigguccinelly300thus the “”, also, that’s a huge drive way no matter what.. can fit like 5 vehicles.
Gravel driveways are nightmares. Lawnmowers become rock guns.
No lawns left to mow if everything is now a gravel driveway.
MY POOR BEAUTIFUL GLASS KITCHEN DOOR!! may it RIP
Yea
We have a long gravel driveway and it’s so dusty when I mow
And when I clean a car it gets dirty again when I move it back to where it was because of the dust :/
Also think of snow removal
@@urmommamudkips8343🤯 😖 😩 😳
i cannot imagine why anyone would WANT a *gravel driveway* in the first place! 😬😫
90% driveway, 10% house, 0% garden, wow
I didn’t see any locate marks before you dug lol 😂
They defeated the point of a gravel driveway..........cost
Some people like a quality product and will pay for it 🤷
@@teaguejelinek4038 ... And some people like an expensive product regardless of quality.
@@teaguejelinek4038 That's the other problem, a lot of people here on the comments are saying that this is worse than just gravel
My thoughts, been in constr 35 yrs. Looks expensive to begin with. cheaper and more efficient routes available
Granulated worx pretty good, packs like concrete
That looks like a more expensive way to lay down gravel
It is
My husband though so too. Until winter came and he saw exactly what I meant by "it's not gonna lie where you put it". The cars dug through the gravel and into the clay below, and we had several situation where he used over an hour to get the car loose, and had to call people to come and help him push it. Then we put down a system like this. Never had issues like previously mentioned again.
It's more expensive at base cost but holds so much better. And doesn't require the maintenance level of concrete.
@@minacapella8319”maintenance level of concrete” what? Brother a concrete driveway will last 25-30 years. Like you really don’t even gotta do anything.
It needs to be compacted.
This is just a gravel driveway with some plastic in it. It was already permeable just being gravel.
This is a good idea because overtime gravel driveways gets divets and uneven areas. This looks like it will prevent it
Bro really said make his driveway look like a prison yard
😂 cannot relate
❤Q11 free😂🎉😂and li❤@@sebastienfoulc8600
I couldn’t think of something to compare it to, but it does look institutionalized and not attractive to the curb appeal! I would not want to buy that home if it were up for sale and had that blacked out driveway!
@@MariaEOD 100% agreed, where's the greenery gone? It looks terrible for a home
I love how the internet makes people feel like they are reinventing the wheel.
It's just allowed monorail salesmen reach more people with less effort.
@@IdealConsciencehey man, look at how he used a homemade leveler out of just immaculate untouched wood bought fresh for this, and immaculate clean rope bought fresh for this, he's such a based guy just working hard!!!!
in the same vein, everyone in the comments is always an expert
@@ileftarosebud Yeah, but in the comments you get a spectrum of nuance, from people who vibe, to people who don't, and everywhere in between ar people sharing their opinions just like fi you talked to people irl about the same thing
@@IdealConscience to be fair, the monorail did put those towns in the map!
Dude turned his whole yard into a driveway
What’s the advantage over just compacted rock/ gravel?
A weed barrier is one thing, but it's the dirt and leaf litter on top which causes weed problems eventually. Dirt is trapped in the gravel and stuff just grows. Every time - without fail
Yeah I've found 5/8" minus makes a wonderful growing medium!
I hate " weed barrier" " landscape fabric". Waste of time and money. Glad someone else knows.
Life, uh, finds a way.
But weed barrier, when it lasts, prevents weeds from rooting more than a couple inches deep, so they are easy to pull out.
Former landscaper here, weed barrier is the biggest scam in the world
ESPECIALLY for those who has to remove it
All the drawbacks of gravel, with all the cost and labor of concrete. Great Job!!
lol! I was thinking something similar..
Gotta show it after it rains w/1-3” precipitation.
It’s really thin so after a few months of driving (parking) on it with anything heavier than 1/2 ton truck that be plastic will be crushed .. gravity , never forget about gravity!
I just think that kinda important.
@@analogalien651nah, it won’t break. Even if it does crack in a few places, it’ll still do it’s job.
@@Pluralofvinylisvinyls “I won’t break” and “Even if it does crack” What? Either it does or doesn’t
@@sharicamonet9675 do you have a learning disability that affects your reading comprehension. Neither sentence contradicts the other.
@@Pluralofvinylisvinylsand, what is the job of that plastic grid?
The best use for it is stabilisation of lawns you can drive over
How is it permeable if you put down plastic tarps at the bottom?
For the labor cost, get a complete concrete driveway.
Aaah yess, the good old 'fuck nature it doesn't need the water anyways' approach
That would then look even worse than the stone desert in the vid...
@@dschaedler Lol... Yes it's all about "nature". Concrete has many advantages. If you're that "pro nature" maybe you should live in the woods and live 100% sustainably like the idiotic climate protesters blocking roads.
To me concrete seems like one of them worst materials for your driveway
@PilotAwe idk quicksand driveway sounds alot worse
Hey yall. This is product placement. The idea is stupid and unnecessary because it's an ad. Hope this helps clarify.
Right? My friend was looking for "green" ideas at work cuz they asked him to.
He found a spray that claimed to lower greenhouses gases.
All you do is spray it on your building evenly. Two coats work even better, and once it dries, its invisible!
Its almost as if you did do a damn thing!
Well, wastimg time and money and creating more plastix garbage is a thing...
damn bro thanks, honestly didn't even think of that. I just thought it seemed strange lol
Hmm idk. I think the product itself is useful and has uses. It’s good at levelling and also making sure the gravel doesn’t move too much over time as it’s held in place by the lattice rather than just kinda pounded together by the compacter. I’ve personally used it (only in a very small project to level ground for a shed) and it’s pretty good, easy to use, and also takes up a lot of space that would otherwise be gravel (which whilst cheap ish, is a pain in the ass to move around so having to use less of it is nice
Oh. That makes sense. The whole time i was like "yeah, sure is green to introduce more plastic to erode into yhe environment with all the friction from yhe rocks and weathering from water passing through it"
It is an ad, but it doesn't mean it is a useless product. It's like seeing an advertisement for prescription glasses and calling it a scam because you have good vision. L take, especially when this product gets plastic out of landfills, and actually adds stability and support to a gravel driveway.
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I would spray water before every compaction. This makes the final result stronger
$155 for one square tile? No thanks. I’d rather spend the money on a stronger concrete or asphalt driveway.
Literally 10 cents of plastic molded and upcharged to $155 lol
Depending on where you live some counties have a strict concrete/asphalt to land plot ratio and won’t allow for that much material and you are forced to have gravel
@@justinaguallo436a driveway that size with these molded plastic tiles, when all is said and done, is about 200k. I’ll deal with plain gravel.
@@southernparadise9896 yeah that’s fine, my reply was for concrete/asphalt!
Ye just get me a good ol paved driveway in that case. Cheaper and it looks nicer as well
"Gravel driveways are nightmares"
" MINE will be different! "
Nightmares? Lol
Microplastics included
Is that the NDS grass cell? Thats cool. As a GC ive installed acres of them.
Nobody in their right mind would go to this much trouble... for a gravel driveway.
then you could had have it "Gepflastert" as we say in Germany :DD
Heck I would! That's if it were cheap! An ol wagon trail has less pot holes in it than my driveway! Perfect for going mudding on 🙄🤦🏼♀️😤
@@arosefortes6507it’s 155$ a piece of the plastic thing I saw some other guy in the comments say
@@NTFZ That's around what it is for a set of them. You get around 30-50 sq ft per set in coverage.
A "normal" sized driveway would probably cost +/- $500 in this stuff.
@@Lusterredux then wtf was the other guy saying???
Buddy, you completely sealed your front yard.
No he didnt. Those cloth weed barriers do literally nothing to stop weeds
@@eftheusempire it stops them but over time weeds will grow on top if a seed settles
@@Jim26D Yup. Weeds are good at that.
Nature always wins
@@eftheusempireOf course not, as first earth and seeds are blown onto the gravel, then the weed comes. But this is, how we use them, to stabilize green. Without the liners below and without clean gravel, just use the dirt laying around. We WANT that the nature takes back and is not turned to mud when sometimes a car comes by. Not for everyday use.
What is the weight rating on this before it starts to fail?
So 40' of these for $155? Damn!
That weed barrier aint gonna stop the dealers.
😳 it never does, does it?? 🧐
@@76marji no weeds are growing out of 4 inches of crushed compacted rock. you might get a weed or 2 but its growing out of dirt/seed from the top, nothing is growing from the botttom.
@@darylmixan8170
You totally missed the joke 🤣
Weed dealers!! As in ganja, Mary Jane, stuff that some people can't go a day without.
@@darylmixan8170 Hasta yo que no hablo Inglés entendí el chiste.
@@tk1500😂😂😂😂
"Weed barrier"
Dandelions: "And I took that personally"
I remember my dad learning the hard way about the vengeance of dandelions when he put weed barrier cloth down. They made a full invasion and tore up that cloth within less than 2 weeks.
I saw less dedication to protect in plants vs zombies than I did in those dandelions.
That made me laugh way harder😂 than it should have. Thank you, I genuinely needed that. Now I'm smiling!!
@@rustyhowe3907Thank you for the mental picture. 😅😂
@@user-vh8lv1lm4j Glad to have made you smile, to add to the comedy my dad ending up ripping out each flower and giving them names that were profanity.
Kek
Christ wouldn’t concrete have been cheaper at that point??? 😳
This system is best used with soil to allow grass to grow through. Especially handy if planning permission don’t allow a permanent foundation
I saw this and was like "how are we supposed to snowblow that?" before remembering some people live in snow-free locations
That was my first thought exactly. A plow would destroy that in one pass.
Plow?! It’s a driveway not farmland.
@@sethlarson9433Snow plow
@@sethlarson9433 a snow plow, think bulldozer blade.
@@sethlarson9433Snow plows exist-
But even a snowblower would destroy this easily lol
Completely changed it from a gravel driveway to a smooth gravel driveway
That's plate compacted to you good sir 😂
😊 funny! 😂
@@beenzndbalogna92
😹 & *funnier!* 🤣
Funniest!!😅😅
Looks like a good way to seal the area. The one before looked better.
And another one without that sealing stuff and more green would look even better.
It's so helpful when you are in a wheelchair. You don't stuck despite you have a gravel driveway.
"We have one beautiful, sexy beast of a driveway"
Son that shit looks absolutely fucking horrible lmao
You have to epoxy over top.
It doesnt look any different than a dirt road anywhere..
@@stewpendousgrowth4 Then how is it permeable? What's the point of this whole video? I'm legit confused.
@@santanalzshe made a joke about videos that claim they make something look nice, but making it look horrible, often involving epoxy
@@stewpendousgrowth4 no.
"How is this different from me having a ton of gravel just being dumped and me spreading it over with a rake? "
"Well, this way you pay me 4500 dollars"
No pits forming from crevices. No water draining away lines of gravel into the road. Not weed sprouting.
@@PebloCostibar that's not really what happens dude you still get all that just with chunks of plastic you will be cleaning up forever. I've been doing commercial and residential landscaping for 15 years I've installed these before by request and was called back to remove every single one within 2 years because the plastic breaks within 6 months and you have plastic bits that stick out everywhere and that's ifthe plastic itself doesn't straight up work its way out and poke halfway out of the rock this stuff only makes sence on a steep hill that rock won't normally stay on...
@@Crackpidgeonextreme Ok this just popped into my head what would happen if instead of plastic it was metal would it last longer? What would the Pros and Cons be.
@@PebloCostibar(X)
@@cyrushansen5378no pros, just the cons of metal shards coming up to puncture tires, lol
you can also dig 2 meters deep, fill with concrete, put concrete blocks on top and it will work, both cheaper and better for larger surfaces
What does permeable mean when it comes to this kind of stuff ?
Anyone who's ever seen one of these types of systems after a few years knows they don't last or work well.
I have similar driveway, Its full of bumps
Bumps are good… and it settles out.
Its always permeable
There’s a huge pipe under it, so it’s collecting water… problem is he puts tar paper and plastic in it… so you shouldn’t drink that water or farm with it without distilling and filtering
I don’t get why you’d use this? It’d just break apart into nano particles
exactly.
I'd imagine they would slide around over time, especially in wet tropical climates.
Oh not to mention adding micro plastics to the surrounding environment
Don't trust everything you see online. Especially, shorts & reels.
Amazing how they removed this dislike button and then went on to introduce the one feature that would spread misinformation the fastest.
This videos got 36K dislikes
@@JustMeDark37k now
@@Kenzinru50k now
@@zheil9152 there is an app called return youtube dislike for chrome. the dislike is still there just removed from view. unless the video author (like this) goes out of their way to completely disable dislikes. hmm dunno why anyone would do that for something they are promoting.
Who needs a garden, when you've got a driveway like that! :D
you dont need the grid mould. All you need to do is excavate to make a neat area to hold the 4" deep gravel fill. Pour a concrete containment curb to limit gravel spread, and fill the excavated tray with #57 lime rock or granite gravel, and tamp as needed. A containment curb can be made with 2x12 PT ground contact wood.
My family transformed our driveway with one truck of gravel and a bunch of kids with rakes. Two hours and $150 lasted a few years.
How long is "a few years" though
@@Johanyohann For 150 bucks? 1 year is long enough lol.
And a couple of 🍕 s and 🥤!
Same. Except I'm one of the kids, and the only one who still benefits from the driveway year round.
Concrete is a huge contributor to flooding. We need better options but not this one.
According to their website, one 24"x16" plastic mold is $100!!!! I think I'll pass!!
The funny things is they can plastic injection mold it for like 2 dollars a piece.
And plastic degrades but doesn’t biodegrade. Just putting more microplastics into the environment
@@bettinae1603it's recycled material. The plastic already exists and is in the environment already lol
No one’s ever described a gravel driveway in that way lmao
So all of the expense and trouble of concrete or asphalt but most of the drawbacks of gravel? I'm sold!
Seems like an incredible way to over charge and under deliver.
Microplastics for centuries
How is this the only comment i seen abt this
Thats what I was going to say
Millenia.
Macro plastics for millennia.
Until the day of judgment
How does the drainage for that work if a heavy downpour of rain comes in?
Gonna give the tree huggers a heart attack with how clean that crusher burns.
I'd love to see how this looks 2 years later.
It'll probably be all concrete within two years.
covered in asphalt
It doesnt because after abt a month when its completely ripped up they replace it with concrete and they contemplate an incompitent labor lawsuit against the company that installed it 😂
Covered in weeds
It doesn't last 1
Glad to see at least one company figured out how to make recycling profitable. You're literally paying them for the opportunity to bury their trash in your yard. Absolutely genius
I am crying at this comment hahahahahahahaha!
😅
What a dumb comment - anything that has been recycled was previously trash. What's wrong with that?
@jmckendry84 because with the cost of materials and labor to do this you could of just poured a concrete pad.
So you are paying a company to put junk plastic and bury it in your property lol
@@frogking5573 You could also use concrete made from recycled plastic instead. South Africa has been using it for its asphalt roads, and apparently they last much longer than any other kind (works for concrete too). Only problem is, companies make less money because you don't have to replace your driveway as often, so thats a no go too.
Weed barrier was a total waste of money
The sexy part had me dying😂😂
Buddy just getting absolutely destroyed in the comments and I'm here for every minute of it
Hahaha...brilliant. Laugh bonus-multiplier.
🤣🤣🤣👍🏻
❤ but does it save u in some way? Money or asphalt or......❓
@@laurieamaral5844 it will make you bankrupt lmao
Same omg
Mate I just don’t get it. Can you make a video explaining why this is better than traditional alternatives?
Basically this way the sheering force of tires wont push away the material and create holes and dips which then can fill with water etc.
@@bastik.3011honestly I think it's a great idea. Although anywhere I'm worried about pressure I'd probably pave it or something. That being said for a budget driveway or one out in the country or just not city this is solid and will keep that gravel where it needs to be a long time. Although so does just putting it in a 4inch deep hole or whatever.
@@bastik.3011I have a client that uses this system and it’s pretty cool for keeping the driveway flat but it does Need touch up often in the first few years as the rocks break apart and degrade.
@@RUclips_is_complete-total_shit Its not a thing in the USA i lnow but here in Germany there are laws about how much of your property you are allowed to seal and these have the advantage of letting water through
I don't have a clue... but plastic will ruin before concrete and rebar will...
For a flat drive it works both a driveway with water washing down an angled driveway mine washed out and didn't help at all.
Check out mechanical concrete if you’re thinking of doing something like this. Same idea, but they uses old tires from the junkyard and secure then together.
The most important thing was left out; price?
more than concrete lol
but its recycled plastic...i feel like that makes it cost more...concrete would have been cheaper.
I'm sure that was no accident.
because its so expensive he left it out on purpose haha
Click on link. $155. Per panel 😮
Plot twist, it costs more than asphalt
Even more costly than concrete!
No doubt.
I was going to say... All that work could have put 2 inches of 9.5
Asphalt is way more expensive
@@GX2reno... its not, it also takes half the labor to install over this bullshit
Doing that with a truck bed, a bucket, and shovels with the homies would be a good time
just installing fresh gravel would've also completely transformed this driveway
Or a box blade with the scarifiers down (for free)
En mi terreno quité yerbas, emparejé el suelo, le puse tres pulgadas de grava y duró mucho. Hay que arrancar los brotes en tiempo de lluvia, pero son muy pocos.
@@Ricardo-qe2qx idk what that says gang
@@serbianspaceforce6873Do you not have a translate button? I'm being serious are there some devices or OS that don't support the translate system?
@@TroublezAhead00i didn't on my pc but now on my phone i do 🤷
It’s called Cellular Confinement and it’s been around for decades. It was never designed to be a permeable solution. It was designed for stabilization and erosion control. The plastic pieces should also be fastened to the ground with spikes before backfilling. When done properly, a system like this can support a 60,000 pound fire truck. And that’s on grass.
The company I worked for had me putting it down were all the grass was going
I have been looking at doing this with grass also . Since I'm in the Midwest, I'm generally hesitant about how things will be with snow removal. First time I saw it done right was at Newfields in Indianapolis
@@jamesrehak2016 I here ya brother,I'm from New England so we deal with the same shit, those plows tear all kinds of landscaping up,it's not like they can see were the street or parking lot ends
When you think about it, shouldn't the grass itself be able to support a 60k lb truck?
@@redbelle648 maybe somewhere in a permanent drought, that doesn't account for saturated soil from rain or snow at all
Rubbish dump owner 1: "We gotta find a way to get rid of all this platic waste, and it would be nice if people would pay us for the privilege"
Rubbish dump owner 2: "I got you brother"
I put down solid gold because I like the look........
That looks like the most depressing piece of engineering I've ever seen
americans when something isn’t extremely wasteful and bad for the environment: 🤬🤬
@@coastingalongyeah because putting brittle plastic in the ground for water to wash out is great for the environment
@@coastingalonglets bury plastic under road instead of using cement that is literally just rocks and sand
@@isaacmarcucci3777 you’re proving my point……
@@FedkaSlovanich damn you’re ultra stupid huh?
that smooth gravel base is like screaming "pour asphalt over me!"
Oh god, please don't, lol. We have specific materials that go under asphalt and that rock is way too big.
@@ceraunoashe9134 you don't need anything except compact gravel under asphalt
@yono367 not by coty regulations at least... you need roadbase with a specific hydration and compaction level to be even allowed to pave. That's how it is in Colorado
@@ceraunoashe9134 the regulations are for public roads. But yeah, you still need a finger aggregate before the binder and then the asphalt. But it was simply a humorous comment, meant to say that was a nice and compact base
@@ceraunoashe9134 yeah for road work/city work maybe they make you do that lol but not private sector
I done my 1,390 ft driveway with used car & truck tires with the side walls cut out of them and screwed them together and then used crushed concrete for base and the good stuff for the rest.
I like that you hide plastic waste and 10" nails under the gravel. Real breakthrough
Is barely permeable: Weed barrier will hold water in puddles, rock was compacted before plastic mesh making it difficult for water to get through. Water will likely pool in the mesh of the plastic.
Is bad for environment: 100% recycled plastic or not, you’re still putting 2 layers of plastic in the ground, both of which will likely become damaged. Plastic will be in your soil.
It’s not long lasting: Concrete and asphalt, although they do have cons, are long lasting. Gravel often gets messy and new gravel is needed often to maintain a gravel driveway. Whether using typical gravel, or this type, regular maintenance is required for it to look good. Typically gravel though, does have the previous cons.
Yea but this is half the cost of a normal driveway
@@Dinkwaddat first
Not to mention the driveway slopes down to the house and garage. The water will most likely flood the garage and possibly the house.
The weed barrier isn’t plastic though. It’s a woven fabric like material. Water will go right through with little to no resistance as long as you use the correct stone. The plastic grid is used to strengthen the system. It’s typically used as a “grass-pave” system. In my area we use it for emergency vehicle driveways through landscape areas with sod on top for retirement complexes and apartments/condos. Everything he used in the video is permeable except the stone.
To everyone that think this will flood this will not at most it will be a danger when doing the lawn and shoot rocks at the very most! You guys really need to stop being driveway cretics and realize this guy has been doing this type of work for a long time much longer than you have and I’m sure the customer is not going to pay a few grand for a new job that will just flood again
Hate to say it but this isn’t permeable. When you have multiple layers of compacted rock, that’s eventually going to be filled with sand and other fine materials, it will come in permeable.
It doesn’t have to be asphalt to be non-permeable.
Think about the bottom of a river or even a puddle. It’s sitting on top of Dirt, which is compacted fine rocks yet water doesn’t go through
Isn't it against FTC rules in the US to post an ad without disclosing it in the title? Actually NVM I'll answer... YES!
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You earn commissions through the link tho.
Better to use a weedbarrier that allows water to go through, with the weed barrier you used you eliminated the only upside of a gravel driveway
Go to this dude’s New Year’s party and he’ll brag for 10min about the rocks in his driveway. 😅😅
Lol! Probably!
Probably cuz he had too drink
He can describe his driveway in depth but can't remember the girls' name he lost his virginity to.
“Yup-we tore down that shed and the guest house to get some extra 5/8 minus gravel in there. Gonna knock down the daughter’s room to get a bit more space for the shaved granite with a plastic base…”
Yeah until about 2 months when it falls apart and for the next 7 years of cleaning plastic out of the ground
Curious how much this costs compared to a concrete slab driveway. Also everyone with a gravel driveway isn't just cheap. Probably most but not all. Many counties building code will not let more than a certain percentage of your property be covered in concrete. Concrete doesn't drain. Permeable is the key word here. So if you're already having flooding problems this might make more sense with or without the building code issues.
Gonna take a wild guess and say all of your plumbing is under that 😂
My next door neighbor had a business doing dirt work and installing septic systems. He always swore by putting down a base layer of 1 and 2 size rock, packing it down and later covering it with light gravel. It really made a strong base. I trust his method over this any day of the week.
Also easier to fix that this damn thing. Just one wrong move on snow blow height adjustment and this thing is in peaces and soon to go into landfill.
Great advice. Need to repair my gravel parking. Will use the rock and gravel method. Seems legit.
Your neighbor knows what he's doing. It's not rocket science and didn't need to be complicated or unnecessarily expensive, like I'm sure this shit show was.
man, i'd never do this because the wind would fuck everything up lol especially like 60mph winds
Well that may last well for 5-10 years but this plastic he uses is the difference needed to extend the lifetime to 25+ years
Ooos 5/8 minus is no longer permeable. When compacted it has only 3% permeability. Next time use 5/8 washed to allow water to pass through
I'm living for these comments calling out OPs messup 😭
Literally came here to ask why not washed.
ohh yah guy messed up 😂
If it’s granular, it’s permeable. The permeability (cm/sec) depends on gradation
@@gordonlekfors2708Also the plastic will be worn down by stone movements over time and will spread micro plastic into the environment......
This might actually be a slightly better option for some of the crazy jurisdictions that require massive water drainage considerations... we have ditches in our front yards these days.
It would have been nice if you could have given some prices so we could get a better educated guess on weather we want to use it . I know prices of gravel will be different everywhere but the cost breakdown would be great . Could save people minutes looking it up only to have nightmares for weeks .
The country club I used to work for used this on a section of the golf cart path that needed a quick repair while they allocated money to repave it. It cost them over $2000 and it washed out in a heavy rain 2 weeks after it was installed.
Lol they failed the foresight of storm water run off.
At the end of the day, you still have a gravel driveway.
And a tiny ass house it appears