@@CowClassic3 I was never really a fan of it, tbh…that was the first raid I had trouble tanking (Blood DK) so that whole tier I was either healing or DPS Can’t Imagine playing retail…stopped playing at the end of CATA and the new mechanics are a bit much for tanking lol Respect to you and any other tank willing to put up with those fights and raid lead etc Still never downed LK as a tank on any difficulty and it never set right with me….felt like a scrub 😂
@@acheronnchase6220 I'm actually really excited for Cata. I had only tanked original vanilla + TBC, then classic vanilla until now. the more mechanics, the better for me :). BDK feels unstoppable on most encounters now, a big wall with the %buff in ICC.
@@CowClassic3 As someone who cleared last season's mythic raid and icc 25 hc on the second week (with 4 hours of raiding per week, 0 ptr), I daresay Aberus mythic is MILES more difficult than icc 25hc with 258 avg ilvl and no buff. Even week 1 everything but LK was a joke in 25hc, only putri needed some wipes to get it right and for sindra we just 7 healed it, didn't even use ress flasks.
@@ihalia I was referring to gear levels and raw %HP/healing/shields buff. Saying AOTC or s2 was super hard at a time isn't relevant, because the reference is to being a season ahead in ilvl, and with 15% buffs to a past season in the same expansion.
@@CowClassic3 Oh I thought you were reffering to Aberus when it was current content. But still, I'm seeing vods from people who have never done razageth going in to kill her on mythic and doing over 50 wipes just to get to p2 while they are 485 equipped. Same applies to certain boses in Aberus. Some things will just one shot your group, your reaction time is the same as Defile but atleast with Defile you have a chance of people avoiding it while in retail these kind of things are instant wipe. But yes, some bosses will fall over like marrowgar does right now.
That's a very clean UI, I'm struggling with my current one to have dynamic nameplates where on tall bosses it will adjust so I can always see them. Are your ElvUI export and WA on somewhere? I'd be very grateful, sir. Edit: nvm found it on your discord, cheers.
I noticed that you tend to have the dk main tank lich king for most of the fight, who would you say is better suited to tank LK out of protadin and prot warr outside P1? Or should we just taunt off each other on soul reapers
@@xallog2891 Prot paladin is more suitable for adds than prot warrior, so I'd prio P1: warr on boss. P2: warr 2x Soul Reaper, pala (up to) 4x Soul Reaper, and same for P3.
In order to have the most consistent boss movement for hunter traps, and keeping it still right after. Threat gets redirected by hunters and sometimes rogue on pull, I don't ever lose the mob.
i know protection warriors not good but why the hell everyone not giving them a chance to show their power ?as a tank main i like more prot warriors than paladins or dk😒
I've played 2x prot warr since WOTLK P1. Prot pally AOE/ST threat, combined with ardent defender and a lot of utility spells makes it the most appealing for all raids. Blood DK is a good support role because you can supply melee haste/AP buff, while maintaining good ST threat and good survivability. Prot warriors only make life easy for other warriors/rogue who'd have to use armor reduction debuff GCDs, and shattering throw which is a small damage gain.
why the hell? You have a skate and a F1 to run a race, why would anyone would pick the skateboard when you can just pick the F1. Skate Prot war: Make it dificult to everyone so the selfish guy can be happy tanking with a bad class, after all it's his birthday or something so we all gona suffer longer runs for him. F1 Prot pala: Make it easy for everyone, less trouble, more and better in every aspect.
This is with 15% HP/shields increase. The raid damage also decays the longer you kite, so it's most lethal if you get hit immediately after you were picked.
yall are awesome, very good group, but anytime i ask any questions or toss out congrats on the guilds successes to anyone from your guild, they always seem to have their noses pointed straight to the sky, why is that?
so freaking cool to have 25man have the same passion and want to be better and better
Bro, that UI most clean i ever seen before, like it, and nice video mate !
TY!
Cool video you guys smashed it
Thanks!
Awesome
Nice 😊
I’ve done this raid dozens of times but this is the first time i noticed the children’s faces carved into the platform here 14:30 😐
ICC is a scary place!
@@CowClassic3 I was never really a fan of it, tbh…that was the first raid I had trouble tanking (Blood DK) so that whole tier I was either healing or DPS
Can’t Imagine playing retail…stopped playing at the end of CATA and the new mechanics are a bit much for tanking lol
Respect to you and any other tank willing to put up with those fights and raid lead etc
Still never downed LK as a tank on any difficulty and it never set right with me….felt like a scrub 😂
@@acheronnchase6220 I'm actually really excited for Cata. I had only tanked original vanilla + TBC, then classic vanilla until now. the more mechanics, the better for me :). BDK feels unstoppable on most encounters now, a big wall with the %buff in ICC.
AS an Hardcore retail player seeing how easy this shit is, makes me loling tf out.
It'd be similar to going to last season's mythic raid essentially. The gear level is high, but 15% increase to HP/heals/shields is immense.
@@CowClassic3 As someone who cleared last season's mythic raid and icc 25 hc on the second week (with 4 hours of raiding per week, 0 ptr), I daresay Aberus mythic is MILES more difficult than icc 25hc with 258 avg ilvl and no buff. Even week 1 everything but LK was a joke in 25hc, only putri needed some wipes to get it right and for sindra we just 7 healed it, didn't even use ress flasks.
@@ihalia I was referring to gear levels and raw %HP/healing/shields buff. Saying AOTC or s2 was super hard at a time isn't relevant, because the reference is to being a season ahead in ilvl, and with 15% buffs to a past season in the same expansion.
I can guarantee you're not even a "hardcore retail player". Just another random troll
@@CowClassic3 Oh I thought you were reffering to Aberus when it was current content. But still, I'm seeing vods from people who have never done razageth going in to kill her on mythic and doing over 50 wipes just to get to p2 while they are 485 equipped. Same applies to certain boses in Aberus. Some things will just one shot your group, your reaction time is the same as Defile but atleast with Defile you have a chance of people avoiding it while in retail these kind of things are instant wipe. But yes, some bosses will fall over like marrowgar does right now.
awesome.
Thanks!
They must of changed this place since I played… I use to run all my mains solo in here to get the mount… then I quit playing after that lol
Hell yea
what addon/wa is the one that tracks pain sup/sac/vamp blood defensives as an icon center left?
A little WA i concocted, similar to Fojji/Tems/external WAs out there. If you'd for me to post it, I can on my discord.
that'd be sick ty @@CowClassic3
Could you share the weakura for heoric lich king where we can track the enrage for the mobs?
On my discord.
I want the prot warrior
Soontm!
That's a very clean UI, I'm struggling with my current one to have dynamic nameplates where on tall bosses it will adjust so I can always see them. Are your ElvUI export and WA on somewhere? I'd be very grateful, sir. Edit: nvm found it on your discord, cheers.
Glad I could help!
Yeah,same,can't even get weakauras to work,lol
Hi Cow, I'm a protadin progressing LK HC, would you have any tips or handy things to know? In P1 I tank adds
Yeah. Plenty of tips go out every livestream when I tank HLK. If you have a specific question about it, LMK!
I noticed that you tend to have the dk main tank lich king for most of the fight, who would you say is better suited to tank LK out of protadin and prot warr outside P1? Or should we just taunt off each other on soul reapers
@@xallog2891 Prot paladin is more suitable for adds than prot warrior, so I'd prio P1: warr on boss. P2: warr 2x Soul Reaper, pala (up to) 4x Soul Reaper, and same for P3.
Do you think sindragosa's fang + skeleton key is enough to survive a soul reaper or do I need an external as well?@@CowClassic3
If u wanna take 3 sr in a row you may need a external. Thats why bdk are so nice for lk mt. With ams, vamp, fang
what addon is saying "spikes, flames" on 1st boss.
Fojji's T10 WA Pack.
what about the WA that shows the stacking debuff on the tank?
How come you're not precasting Exorcism into Avenger's Shield+Taunt on pull?
In order to have the most consistent boss movement for hunter traps, and keeping it still right after. Threat gets redirected by hunters and sometimes rogue on pull, I don't ever lose the mob.
On PP, do melee have to soak green?
Melee will only soak green at the table now. The brand new strategy is to make PP a target dummy and only hit him pretty much.
did you use berserking on weapon?
Yes.
i know protection warriors not good but why the hell everyone not giving them a chance to show their power ?as a tank main i like more prot warriors than paladins or dk😒
I've played 2x prot warr since WOTLK P1. Prot pally AOE/ST threat, combined with ardent defender and a lot of utility spells makes it the most appealing for all raids. Blood DK is a good support role because you can supply melee haste/AP buff, while maintaining good ST threat and good survivability. Prot warriors only make life easy for other warriors/rogue who'd have to use armor reduction debuff GCDs, and shattering throw which is a small damage gain.
@@CowClassic3 so please make prot warrior videos ((((
why the hell?
You have a skate and a F1 to run a race, why would anyone would pick the skateboard when you can just pick the F1.
Skate Prot war: Make it dificult to everyone so the selfish guy can be happy tanking with a bad class, after all it's his birthday or something so we all gona suffer longer runs for him.
F1 Prot pala: Make it easy for everyone, less trouble, more and better in every aspect.
Lady's spirits does a joke of dmg compared to warmane, no wonder tho, blizzard make stuff more dummy friendly nowadays so they feel acomplishment.
I think reverse is true. Warmane is less forgiving than retail WOTLK, and for a good reason!
what addon for UI do you use?
I use a combination of addons, but the profiles are all self-made with inspiration from other UI creators. More info on the discord!
Haha. Top classic Guild
Hehe!
Wtf? The red ooze is not oneshotting the raid?
This is with 15% HP/shields increase. The raid damage also decays the longer you kite, so it's most lethal if you get hit immediately after you were picked.
@@CowClassic3 Thats what I know. Tbh I only know the privat server mechanic and there it was always an one hit.
Nicholas Cage plays wow? lol
Can you link your spec?
On my discord.
Why are half these comments retail players that can barely do 15s hating someones preferred version of the game? Wild
People like to hate, especially on the internet! Once we get a 5 man crew I'll be back to m+ keys and get hate for that too :).
Damned if you do, damned if you don't lmao@@CowClassic3
server name ?
Faerlina-US
EaserMax bisch dus
it's funny when you see people trying and trying when warmane private serveur do better without making a moovie to FAP in front of
The same people who have been playing warmane for the past 10 years...
yall are awesome, very good group, but anytime i ask any questions or toss out congrats on the guilds successes to anyone from your guild, they always seem to have their noses pointed straight to the sky, why is that?
Not sure who you talked to, but you can always toss questions my way.
Addons please 🥰
My profiles are public on my discord!
Classic and top guild is an oxymoron
I don't know how that makes sense to you, there are top organizations/players in every video game, ever...
he just salty lmao@@CowClassic3
Axaxa 15 yers ald wowo and top most yest rauid and top gild in what ?
how can you be a top guild on a like 13-14 year old expansion. Go back to retail lol.
Don't worry, I play retail too. Some of the guild members are in top guilds on retail as well.
Retail is ass tho
Retail is for children
You know that is not true tho. If you show that you have done any hard end content then sure. @@agoogleuser8492
Pfff done this 12 yrs ago,noobs 😂😂😂
So big ego , for average play 😅
How do you determine either of your statements?
hehe noobs. dk's use ghouls for nothing, rest of raid uses nitro boots (?) for nothing. 11 seconds were enough.