My old vicar criticised Brexit from the pulpit on 3 different occasions (thankfully not in consecutive weeks, and not as unsubtle as it could’ve been ). I marginally supported Remain, but this was immensely frustrating over how much it was deviating from teaching the Bible well. 10 years on now it’s now down to do same sex blessings. This is a very practical example of how becoming too wedded to a political ideology (right or left) leads a church down a dangerous path, and how not to do things
When they modernized the prayer book that was the beginning of the end followed by first female priestesses and then finally gay weddings. And 60% of their clergy are adult converts who bring their protestant bullshit along with them.
So many years ago I was told in homiletics lessons, don't condemn or belittle the congregation. Preaching for conviction is one thing preaching to condemn is another
Exactly. You could fully expect anyone singled out from the pulpit for special abuse to at the very least quit the congregation if not the entire denomination.
Some years ago our Minister said that he never expresses his own political views in the pulpit, because the congregation includes supporters of all political parties and none, but we are united in Christ.. He is a former Moderator of the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland.
I spent a month on sabbatical with the Episcopal church. Some lovely people motivated by care and compassion, but I regretfully concluded they were a woke wellness cult. The same tendencies are rising up in our C of E IMHO. 😢
Canon ! I accept your reservation! Unfortunately it was the wrong thing to do! And as you said! The Episcopal Church in the USA has had a very unfortunate history that has left it very much out of touch with much of the Christian faith in some ways. I had initially agreed with the 9th Bishop's sermon. Unfortunately it did pretty much as Rev Dan has said. It Unfortunately put Trump's back out. It's dangerous to misuse the pulpit in this way. Turning it into a podium is unwise. I take the middle view edging towards this. I say that it might've worked but unfortunately it didn't! Challenge separate things - yes! But individuals of dubious levels ! If necessary! Perhaps ! I take a balance of this.
Back in the ‘80s our rector was agitating for setting up bunkhouses for illegal immigrants in church undercrofts much as if we were obligated to adopt the entire population of any Central American country having a civil war. And then he would denounce dissenters from the pulpit but of course not by name. Singling out individuals for special abuse from the pulpit borders on insanity but of course Budde has more job security than Trump does so she gets to indulge herself to the nth degree. I quit the Episcopal Church to become a Buddhist. To me Christiainty equals endless torrents of verbal diarrhea emanating from the mouths of undisciplined pseudo priests.
Best analysis of ‘that sermon’ I’ve heard. Lots about unity, but what about unity in Christ? What about the Gospel message? And, as you say, basic rule of thumb for preaching a sermon: never single out one member of the congregation for criticism in front of all the others, whoever they are, at least if you want to have any sort of positive effect at all.
Clergy in the Anglican Tradition are brilliant at being cheerful and encouraging people in the rough roads of life. They're not so good at challenging people, 'weaponising' as you characterise it. No wonder God's frozen people in Europe and America remain largely frozen. I think the good Bishop challenged all of us.
Did you listen to how gentle she was in the way she spoke? A true woman of God, calling on the powerful to protect the vulnerable. A Christ like message, a brave woman, and an example to us all.
@catherinellewelyn-evans3693 Considering the power dynamics at play here, President Trump is the one in a precarious position. He has been subjected to at least 3 assassination attempts, has spent the last three election cycles being demonised, slandered, subjected to spurious law suits and threats, and his supporters attacked and silenced. He spent his first term being undermined by both the Democrats and Republicans, and finding little favour with the federal establishment. And here is a woman occupying a place at the high table of ideological dominance. Her progressive liberalism has infected every corporation and institution in the west, including many churches. She literally is part of the powerful elite who have persecuted conservatives and nationalists.
One is minded of the former Catholic priest turned Protestant John Knox, when he had the opportunity to preach to Mary Queen of Scots, whilst she fought her sister Queen Elizabeth, chose the text of Psalm 2 ... "Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord" ... Did he exploit his situation or capitalise upon it?
I am blessed to hear such biblical sense. I thought that this woman had the world stage, and she failed to preach a true gospel. Perhaps a career in politics would have been better for her .
While I agree with much of what you are saying, I fear first of all that you are wresting that Matthew 18 passage out of context. I am not a Rev like you but that doesn't stop me feeling the needto say this. If a minister (truly saved or otherwise) got up in the pulpit and confronted a congregation member about how they hadn't given him back the strimmer he lent them or somesuch then I'd agree with you. But MEB was not airing a personal pound of flesh (to mix metaphors) she was simply attempting to speak up for those who have no voice as per Proverbs 31:8-9. While I agree with you about the transgender issue on a theological level (politically it's a very different matter), when it comes to the immigrants we have to ask WHY they are undocumented? If they have fled in without documentation it is not necessarily because they are banditos, it is often because the conditions for immigration are unfairly stringent towards them and have scant regard for the fact that they are often FLEEING from the very criminals Trump is so concerned about. As MEB pointed out, the majority of them are honest hard-working people and not simply there to sponge off hard-working US-born citizens. These matters need handling with grace and understanding and the wisdom of Solomon who arbitrated fairly between two harlots rather than banging on at them about how they shouldn't have been harlots in the first place. And far more crimes are committed by US-born citizens than by Mexicans, documented or otherwise.
you begin by pointing out how divisive the sermon was; as a plea for unity, it has certainly not succeeded in that; but for her and her co-religionists, unity means agreement and conformity with them; humility means deference to them; tolerance means condemning the same things as them.
I suggest you listen to/read the whole sermon, not just the news article's selected gobbets; it was a call for unity in a divided country. Bishop Budde suggests there are three 'H' cornerstones for unity for leaders to remember- Honouring the inherent dignity of every person, Honesty in discourse and actions and Humility, that leaders have a duty to be servants too. I can't see anything wrong with that message, as each of these are Christian principles, and all are important for worldly leaders (whatever their political persuasion) to be reminded of as they take office. And as for your point that the Bishop shouldn't use the pulpit for mixing religion and politics, well Jesus wasn't afraid of criticizing the worldly (and religious) leaders and reminding them of the poor and afraid of his time, for there is inevitably an overlap between "politics" and "religion" in matters of social justice.
She could have added another H..... Honouring the laws of the country in which you reside. That would include not entering it by criminal means. Scripture is quite clear on obeying the law, and punishing those who break it.
@@fletcherchristian6522 Of course, had she done that, MAGA supporters would have interpreted it as an attack on the new President's status as a convicted felon. You can't have it both ways. It would be hypocritical to punish illegal immigrants whilst pardoning Trump, and we know what Jesus said about hypocrites!
@@marcokite In the Episcopal church of the USA, there are female bishops- as there are in the Church of England. You may disagree with that decision, or with the ordination of women more widely, and you have every right to hold that theological stance, but I don't intend to engage further unless you can be more gracious in your comments- try being less divisive and more inclusive... It's fine to disagree but please do so cordially- I don't intend to get angry, it's not good for my blood pressure...!
Thank you Rev. Dan . For your Godly discernment on the matter. Of the Bishop and the Message. In my humble opinion, she did more to divide and conquer, than unite. As you rightly say, she had a wonderful opportunity to give a Biblical example of Gods Grace and Mercy, "Principles before personalities. Amen.
@thomaselliot2257 point taken, however i was addressing the main thing, in saying that, i do agree with you re; divide and conquer"its a tactic used from Roman times, by people in power. Rev Dan showed how we could "agree to disagree " without turning on each other.. accepting our similarities, understanding our differences.. in Love. Amen and Amen
@dolores.t.hodgkins3140 I take a very similar position as well! But I have to conclude for the most part that seed strewn to try to encourage mercy and grace has fallen on some very considerable and difficult ground. If mountainous! Boggy or rocky - then those seeds will not grow! Which means that these will go to waste! I had hoped ! And yes! I prayed as well! That even a few seeds might have taken root and grew. But very unfortunately. I don't think that any of them will get through the quality of that ground. I know that I shouldn't say anything like it. But it's sensible to acknowledge that that this well meaning attempt has not succeeded. Will there be growth in that ground in the next several months? I'm afraid that I don't know! I won't make any specific observations about it beyond a full year! Like everyone else! I remain perturbed and quietly concerned.
Wells ... 7 million divided by 40 houses, 175k refurb each. They must be worth at least 400k each and had no investment for many years. It will be money well spent.
AI is a useful technology for Choristers to learn things and hymns which can lend itself to improve performance in choirs. I use it for a positive purpose. Of that kind !
As an atheist, listening to the Bishop speaking, she appeared to be simply preaching the Christian message of love and compassion for her fellow human beings. If so called Christian people are unable to see this, then they are blind to the truth. This for me is very troubling, to realise they have become screwed up with religion.
She was challenging him not weaponising the sermon. It was his whole administration including JD Vance, that was critiqued. They are twisted greedy power hungry.
@alanpartridge6024 : Trump was a millionaire before he ever became a president. 🤑🤑🤑 He is not wanting to be president to make money for himself as a better employment. 🙄 You are the one "weaponising" by your biased unproved comment! 🤬 For every idle word that a man shall speak, he shall give account of it in the Day of Judgement and with what measure of judgement you measure against others the same will be measured against you. Take the plank out of your own eye before you try to take out the speck of sawdust in another's. Let him without sin cast the first stone. Where is your love? The Bible asks us to pray for our leaders, not to tear them apart, so we are co-responsible!
@sigurdholbarki8268 Just because a mouse is in the cookie jar doesn't mean that he is a cookie! (As told to Dutch Christian Corrie ten Boom in the film The Hiding Place by her father when a visiting pastor wouldn't take a Jewish baby to his manse in the country to save its life from the Nazis in occupied Holland, when she said, "How can that man call himself a Christian?")
Good man! I’m a 35 year old deacon and my proudest achievement is supporting two young lads become priests who have gone on to be powerful witnesses to Christ. Catholicism is growing in this country and young men like you are at the spearhead to win this nation back to the true faith. Deus Vult!
If you go so clearly against biblical teaching about women in authority in the church what do you expect? Evangelicals compromised and now are reaping the whirlwind.
In Revelation 17, there is a woman mentioned Babylon The Great That sits on a beast. The beast are world powers. False religion as the woman tries to control the beast. This bishop has identified herself as a member of that woman Babylon The Great. All Christians need to pray to Jssus to distance ourselves from this bishop. And the things she said
Whilst I am not personally opposed to blessing for same sex people. I would be opposed to same sex weddings in church properties. I'm warily uneasy with the latter portion of it. I would be very uncomfortable with it if as a Church Chorister and doing that sort of thing in a service of that kind.
Rev Dan! I have been reviewing and revising my opinion on that speech by the 9th Bishop of the Ecliesiastical Cathedral of Washington DC. Whilst I acknowledge that she did her sermon as she did. Her main aim was to scatter seed towards the rocky and difficult ground that was the likes of Trump, His cabinet, family and immediate allies. Whilst initially I had thought that it was correct to do. I have had some second thoughts about it! Seed falling on appropriate and open ground stands a chance of growing! However! If strewn on rocky or swampy or mountainous ground - stands virtually no chance of growth and those seeds are wasted! In theory! I'm not opposed to the attempt but if unsuccessful! Then it has to be accepted as the result stands. I'm afraid that a song by the youngest son of the Trump family has confirmed my own fears and concerns of that! I saw some of it! But not by any means all of it. I've just seen that latest song I'm afraid! I'm convinced now that it's NOT the correct thing to be done! But sadly and with reluctance - I tend to suspect that it was incorrect! And forced to take a measured criticality of it! I haven't entertained the whole thing lightly. There was a hope! Albeit a very long hope at the best! That it might have worked. However! I have to conclude that it may have some very considerable and serious ramifications along the way. I'm forced to agree with some of the more Orthodox portion of Churches that it was NOT correct. But figuratively unwise! This is a very reluctant accepting of this point but it has to be said. I have been lengthy in this - but I had to hold on to the hope that it might've worked. Unfortunately it's unlikely to.!
Is she wearing men's or women's clothing? Is the Biblical word for a female priest or bishop a priestess / bishopress? Most Biblical words are gendered. I don't see "vicars" in Scripture.
About scripture do we appreciate having Gods true Words and where we find them? Don’t know if you know Brandon but he does a tremendous work to the Glorie of God. I hope this will be a blessing to you Dan. ruclips.net/video/WWnTKbDCw-8/видео.htmlfeature=shared
don't put d.j.t. on a pedestal, the air is too thin up there, he will pass out & fall off on his head ... also, these poor kids are influenced & scared by people with an ag.en.da ... I pray for the spirit of confusion to be chased off them ...
Your true colours show once again. You are more concerned about the fact she showed compassion for LGBTIQ people and that she’s a woman Bishop. You obviously have never read the Prophets, the Sermon on the Mount or the way Jesus spoke to the leaders of his day. At least she didn’t call Trump and Vance “white washed tombs” or refer to Maga as a “brood of vipers”. She proclaimed truth to power.
You are more concerned with political point scoring and Trump than you are with opposing the secular attacks against biblical teachings on sexuality and faith. You lot are the ones with the power, your worldview controls everything especially in the UK where preaching 2000 year old biblical traditions can get your arrested for 'hate'.
Hmmm that is one brave bishop . She is an inspiration to us all. I think she and the church will pay for it. Sorry rev Dan I think we are no longer aligned in our views. This woman is a saint (although non of us are catholic). So not possible.
Safeguarding should be a situation of just reporting that to the safeguarding representative in a church ! It should be the case is that a representative reports this to the Vicar and the PCC - Perhaps if it's wiser if this LLF thing is postponed until 2026. I suspect that it's likely to cause a difficulty. And that uncertainty has brought up this kind of some doubts.
@@Doweunderstand6419 Sometimes understating it! Is a clear indicator that it could cause some profound complications and that's what I suspect! And I am somewhat concerned about it as well! I would prefer a further postponement to 2026 at least!
Jesus was crucified for challenging the powerful and supporting the vulnerable (whatever their label). Her message was a Christ like one and thousands of us applauded.
First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me Pastor Martin Niemöller (opposition to the Nazi regime during the late 1930s) Christ took every opportunity, as clergy should - to speak out against blatant, repugnant and evil behavior. I suspect that within a short time of Trump's presidency, as it descends into deeper levels of depravity - you will look back on this RUclips post with regret and shame.
@@andybarton234 People thinking that simply referring to the Bible is 'nasty' is most of the problem. That's why the churches are packed full of false converts and most UK churches are run by atheists. Which by extension is why the west is in the state it is with the mass slaughter of infants, mutilating people, complete insanity denial of reality, the R gangs, etc.
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My old vicar criticised Brexit from the pulpit on 3 different occasions (thankfully not in consecutive weeks, and not as unsubtle as it could’ve been ). I marginally supported Remain, but this was immensely frustrating over how much it was deviating from teaching the Bible well. 10 years on now it’s now down to do same sex blessings. This is a very practical example of how becoming too wedded to a political ideology (right or left) leads a church down a dangerous path, and how not to do things
The Episcopal church went off the rails many, many years before this sermon was preached.
When they modernized the prayer book that was the beginning of the end followed by first female priestesses and then finally gay weddings. And 60% of their clergy are adult converts who bring their protestant bullshit along with them.
So many years ago I was told in homiletics lessons, don't condemn or belittle the congregation. Preaching for conviction is one thing preaching to condemn is another
Exactly. You could fully expect anyone singled out from the pulpit for special abuse to at the very least quit the congregation if not the entire denomination.
Some years ago our Minister said that he never expresses his own political views in the pulpit, because the congregation includes supporters of all political parties and none, but we are united in Christ.. He is a former Moderator of the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland.
I spent a month on sabbatical with the Episcopal church. Some lovely people motivated by care and compassion, but I regretfully concluded they were a woke wellness cult. The same tendencies are rising up in our C of E IMHO. 😢
Canon ! I accept your reservation! Unfortunately it was the wrong thing to do! And as you said! The Episcopal Church in the USA has had a very unfortunate history that has left it very much out of touch with much of the Christian faith in some ways.
I had initially agreed with the 9th Bishop's sermon. Unfortunately it did pretty much as Rev Dan has said. It Unfortunately put Trump's back out. It's dangerous to misuse the pulpit in this way. Turning it into a podium is unwise.
I take the middle view edging towards this. I say that it might've worked but unfortunately it didn't! Challenge separate things - yes! But individuals of dubious levels ! If necessary! Perhaps ! I take a balance of this.
Back in the ‘80s our rector was agitating for setting up bunkhouses for illegal immigrants in church undercrofts much as if we were obligated to adopt the entire population of any Central American country having a civil war. And then he would denounce dissenters from the pulpit but of course not by name. Singling out individuals for special abuse from the pulpit borders on insanity but of course Budde has more job security than Trump does so she gets to indulge herself to the nth degree. I quit the Episcopal Church to become a Buddhist. To me Christiainty equals endless torrents of verbal diarrhea emanating from the mouths of undisciplined pseudo priests.
Best analysis of ‘that sermon’ I’ve heard. Lots about unity, but what about unity in Christ? What about the Gospel message? And, as you say, basic rule of thumb for preaching a sermon: never single out one member of the congregation for criticism in front of all the others, whoever they are, at least if you want to have any sort of positive effect at all.
Clergy in the Anglican Tradition are brilliant at being cheerful and encouraging people in the rough roads of life. They're not so good at challenging people, 'weaponising' as you characterise it. No wonder God's frozen people in Europe and America remain largely frozen. I think the good Bishop challenged all of us.
Challenging gender ideology can you locked up in the UK. All that happened to the bishop was that she was invited onto The View...
The Bible says as long as you are honest do not swear on anything but let your yes be yes and your no, no.I would. If God says it, it’s 😊 OK.
You were beginning to lose it - and so was I! Maranatha. Amen.
Thank you, Rev Dan. If her aim was to protect vulnerable groups, why provoke the powerful man she perceived as a threat to them?
Did you listen to how gentle she was in the way she spoke? A true woman of God, calling on the powerful to protect the vulnerable. A Christ like message, a brave woman, and an example to us all.
@catherinellewelyn-evans3693
Considering the power dynamics at play here, President Trump is the one in a precarious position. He has been subjected to at least 3 assassination attempts, has spent the last three election cycles being demonised, slandered, subjected to spurious law suits and threats, and his supporters attacked and silenced.
He spent his first term being undermined by both the Democrats and Republicans, and finding little favour with the federal establishment.
And here is a woman occupying a place at the high table of ideological dominance. Her progressive liberalism has infected every corporation and institution in the west, including many churches. She literally is part of the powerful elite who have persecuted conservatives and nationalists.
Calvin Robinson gave good critique of this sermon .
One is minded of the former Catholic priest turned Protestant John Knox, when he had the opportunity to preach to Mary Queen of Scots, whilst she fought her sister Queen Elizabeth, chose the text of Psalm 2 ... "Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord" ... Did he exploit his situation or capitalise upon it?
@@marcokite I apologise for my familial error.
Thank you Fr Dan. They attended an orthodox Anglican Liturgy the day before at St John’s Church. Nonetheless I totally agree with you. Ian Sherwood
Hmmm! Indeed! No substitute for scrutiny!
I am blessed to hear such biblical sense. I thought that this woman had the world stage, and she failed to preach a true gospel. Perhaps a career in politics would have been better for her .
While I agree with much of what you are saying, I fear first of all that you are wresting that Matthew 18 passage out of context. I am not a Rev like you but that doesn't stop me feeling the needto say this.
If a minister (truly saved or otherwise) got up in the pulpit and confronted a congregation member about how they hadn't given him back the strimmer he lent them or somesuch then I'd agree with you. But MEB was not airing a personal pound of flesh (to mix metaphors) she was simply attempting to speak up for those who have no voice as per Proverbs 31:8-9. While I agree with you about the transgender issue on a theological level (politically it's a very different matter), when it comes to the immigrants we have to ask WHY they are undocumented? If they have fled in without documentation it is not necessarily because they are banditos, it is often because the conditions for immigration are unfairly stringent towards them and have scant regard for the fact that they are often FLEEING from the very criminals Trump is so concerned about. As MEB pointed out, the majority of them are honest hard-working people and not simply there to sponge off hard-working US-born citizens. These matters need handling with grace and understanding and the wisdom of Solomon who arbitrated fairly between two harlots rather than banging on at them about how they shouldn't have been harlots in the first place. And far more crimes are committed by US-born citizens than by Mexicans, documented or otherwise.
you begin by pointing out how divisive the sermon was; as a plea for unity, it has certainly not succeeded in that; but for her and her co-religionists, unity means agreement and conformity with them; humility means deference to them; tolerance means condemning the same things as them.
I suggest you listen to/read the whole sermon, not just the news article's selected gobbets; it was a call for unity in a divided country. Bishop Budde suggests there are three 'H' cornerstones for unity for leaders to remember- Honouring the inherent dignity of every person, Honesty in discourse and actions and Humility, that leaders have a duty to be servants too. I can't see anything wrong with that message, as each of these are Christian principles, and all are important for worldly leaders (whatever their political persuasion) to be reminded of as they take office. And as for your point that the Bishop shouldn't use the pulpit for mixing religion and politics, well Jesus wasn't afraid of criticizing the worldly (and religious) leaders and reminding them of the poor and afraid of his time, for there is inevitably an overlap between "politics" and "religion" in matters of social justice.
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She could have added another H..... Honouring the laws of the country in which you reside. That would include not entering it by criminal means. Scripture is quite clear on obeying the law, and punishing those who break it.
@@fletcherchristian6522 Of course, had she done that, MAGA supporters would have interpreted it as an attack on the new President's status as a convicted felon. You can't have it both ways. It would be hypocritical to punish illegal immigrants whilst pardoning Trump, and we know what Jesus said about hypocrites!
@@marcokite It seems that our interpretations of her message are very different. I take it that you are not an Episcopalian?
@@marcokite In the Episcopal church of the USA, there are female bishops- as there are in the Church of England. You may disagree with that decision, or with the ordination of women more widely, and you have every right to hold that theological stance, but I don't intend to engage further unless you can be more gracious in your comments- try being less divisive and more inclusive... It's fine to disagree but please do so cordially- I don't intend to get angry, it's not good for my blood pressure...!
Thank you Rev. Dan . For your Godly discernment on the matter. Of the Bishop and the Message. In my humble opinion, she did more to divide and conquer, than unite.
As you rightly say, she had a wonderful opportunity to give a Biblical example of Gods Grace and Mercy, "Principles before personalities. Amen.
It is the people she addressed her message to that do more to divide and conquer.
@thomaselliot2257 point taken, however i was addressing the main thing, in saying that, i do agree with you re; divide and conquer"its a tactic used from Roman times, by people in power. Rev Dan showed how we could "agree to disagree " without turning on each other.. accepting our similarities, understanding our differences.. in Love. Amen and Amen
@dolores.t.hodgkins3140 I take a very similar position as well! But I have to conclude for the most part that seed strewn to try to encourage mercy and grace has fallen on some very considerable and difficult ground. If mountainous! Boggy or rocky - then those seeds will not grow! Which means that these will go to waste!
I had hoped ! And yes! I prayed as well! That even a few seeds might have taken root and grew. But very unfortunately. I don't think that any of them will get through the quality of that ground. I know that I shouldn't say anything like it. But it's sensible to acknowledge that that this well meaning attempt has not succeeded. Will there be growth in that ground in the next several months? I'm afraid that I don't know! I won't make any specific observations about it beyond a full year! Like everyone else! I remain perturbed and quietly concerned.
Wells ... 7 million divided by 40 houses, 175k refurb each. They must be worth at least 400k each and had no investment for many years. It will be money well spent.
You really would not have liked the Old Testament prophets.
AI is a useful technology for Choristers to learn things and hymns which can lend itself to improve performance in choirs. I use it for a positive purpose. Of that kind !
What are you talking about……calling for mercy seems one of the central Christian themes to me
rev dan beesley - trump fan, lgbt hater. simple as.
And mercy for families of murdered people?
As an atheist, listening to the Bishop speaking, she appeared to be simply preaching the Christian message of love and compassion for her fellow human beings. If so called Christian people are unable to see this, then they are blind to the truth. This for me is very troubling, to realise they have become screwed up with religion.
That's because she's preaching to manipulate atheists rather than to spread Christian truth. That's why you like it, mate.
Were that the people in the front pews?
Atheists love the bishop, Christians can see the problem in her NYT theology.
She was challenging him not weaponising the sermon. It was his whole administration including JD Vance, that was critiqued. They are twisted greedy power hungry.
Oh dear a Leftist Christian. Hilarious.
@alanpartridge6024 : Trump was a millionaire before he ever became a president. 🤑🤑🤑
He is not wanting to be president to make money for himself as a better employment. 🙄
You are the one "weaponising" by your biased unproved comment! 🤬
For every idle word that a man shall speak, he shall give account of it in the Day of Judgement and with what measure of judgement you measure against others the same will be measured against you. Take the plank out of your own eye before you try to take out the speck of sawdust in another's. Let him without sin cast the first stone. Where is your love?
The Bible asks us to pray for our leaders, not to tear them apart, so we are co-responsible!
She's a liberal, not a Christian. And she's not a bishop either. Her creed is closer to Marx than Christ and that's why people are dumping it.
@sigurdholbarki8268 Just because a mouse is in the cookie jar doesn't mean that he is a cookie!
(As told to Dutch Christian Corrie ten Boom in the film The Hiding Place by her father when a visiting pastor wouldn't take a Jewish baby to his manse in the country to save its life from the Nazis in occupied Holland, when she said, "How can that man call himself a Christian?")
What absolute nonsense!@@sigurdholbarki8268
When I’m older I wanna become a Catholic priest
Are you orthodox in your adherence to the catechism? Then go for it!
Good man! I’m a 35 year old deacon and my proudest achievement is supporting two young lads become priests who have gone on to be powerful witnesses to Christ. Catholicism is growing in this country and young men like you are at the spearhead to win this nation back to the true faith.
Deus Vult!
@ amen our great nation will turn to Catholicism
Don't do it ! C of S is your better option. Not bigoted
@@marcokite I love orthodox chant
Jesus said there would be wolves in sheep’s clothing
soooo funny. this page is full of wolves i assure you.
This might be inappropriate but!!! What about Handel's water 🎵🎶?
Sorry about that! Rev Dan! I have a Choristers humour. Picked it up from the Senior Bass of the Vicars!Choral.
A total missed opportunity for the gospel IMO
If you go so clearly against biblical teaching about women in authority in the church what do you expect? Evangelicals compromised and now are reaping the whirlwind.
How not to give a podcast!
In Revelation 17, there is a woman mentioned Babylon The Great
That sits on a beast. The beast are world powers. False religion as the woman tries to control the beast. This bishop has identified herself as a member of that woman Babylon The Great. All Christians need to pray to Jssus to distance ourselves from this bishop. And the things she said
I remember a female Rev..Brexit bashing from the pulpit..Church and state should be separate?
The Vatican Ambassador from the USA looks a little bit naïve! I think that the Pope might find it interesting.
Whilst I am not personally opposed to blessing for same sex people. I would be opposed to same sex weddings in church properties. I'm warily uneasy with the latter portion of it. I would be very uncomfortable with it if as a Church Chorister and doing that sort of thing in a service of that kind.
Blessing same sex couples as with unmarried opposite sex couples is sinful!
The Church of Scotland allow for same sex weddings.
100% agree with your critique of 'That Sermon'
Rev Dan! I have been reviewing and revising my opinion on that speech by the 9th Bishop of the Ecliesiastical Cathedral of Washington DC.
Whilst I acknowledge that she did her sermon as she did. Her main aim was to scatter seed towards the rocky and difficult ground that was the likes of Trump, His cabinet, family and immediate allies. Whilst initially I had thought that it was correct to do. I have had some second thoughts about it! Seed falling on appropriate and open ground stands a chance of growing! However! If strewn on rocky or swampy or mountainous ground - stands virtually no chance of growth and those seeds are wasted! In theory! I'm not opposed to the attempt but if unsuccessful! Then it has to be accepted as the result stands. I'm afraid that a song by the youngest son of the Trump family has confirmed my own fears and concerns of that! I saw some of it! But not by any means all of it. I've just seen that latest song I'm afraid! I'm convinced now that it's NOT the correct thing to be done! But sadly and with reluctance - I tend to suspect that it was incorrect! And forced to take a measured criticality of it!
I haven't entertained the whole thing lightly. There was a hope! Albeit a very long hope at the best! That it might have worked. However! I have to conclude that it may have some very considerable and serious ramifications along the way. I'm forced to agree with some of the more Orthodox portion of Churches that it was NOT correct. But figuratively unwise! This is a very reluctant accepting of this point but it has to be said. I have been lengthy in this - but I had to hold on to the hope that it might've worked. Unfortunately it's unlikely to.!
Is she wearing men's or women's clothing? Is the Biblical word for a female priest or bishop a priestess / bishopress? Most Biblical words are gendered. I don't see "vicars" in Scripture.
About scripture do we appreciate having Gods true Words and where we find them? Don’t know if you know Brandon but he does a tremendous work to the Glorie of God. I hope this will be a blessing to you Dan.
ruclips.net/video/WWnTKbDCw-8/видео.htmlfeature=shared
don't put d.j.t. on a pedestal, the air is too thin up there, he will pass out & fall off on his head ... also, these poor kids are influenced & scared by people with an ag.en.da ... I pray for the spirit of confusion to be chased off them ...
She has duping delight at the end and has not spoken the word of God according to the Bible
Your true colours show once again. You are more concerned about the fact she showed compassion for LGBTIQ people and that she’s a woman Bishop. You obviously have never read the Prophets, the Sermon on the Mount or the way Jesus spoke to the leaders of his day. At least she didn’t call Trump and Vance “white washed tombs” or refer to Maga as a “brood of vipers”. She proclaimed truth to power.
You are more concerned with political point scoring and Trump than you are with opposing the secular attacks against biblical teachings on sexuality and faith. You lot are the ones with the power, your worldview controls everything especially in the UK where preaching 2000 year old biblical traditions can get your arrested for 'hate'.
Hmmm that is one brave bishop . She is an inspiration to us all. I think she and the church will pay for it. Sorry rev Dan I think we are no longer aligned in our views. This woman is a saint (although non of us are catholic). So not possible.
This bishop looks like Albert Steptoe.
Well! Don't ask me to say - that Christ is a chip off the old block.
A terrible thing to say In God's house she better repent
Safeguarding should be a situation of just reporting that to the safeguarding representative in a church ! It should be the case is that a representative reports this to the Vicar and the PCC - Perhaps if it's wiser if this LLF thing is postponed until 2026. I suspect that it's likely to cause a difficulty. And that uncertainty has brought up this kind of some doubts.
I suspect it's likely to cause a difficulty.. understatement of the Century!
@@Doweunderstand6419 Sometimes understating it! Is a clear indicator that it could cause some profound complications and that's what I suspect! And I am somewhat concerned about it as well! I would prefer a further postponement to 2026 at least!
Jesus was crucified for challenging the powerful and supporting the vulnerable (whatever their label). Her message was a Christ like one and thousands of us applauded.
Given the media circuit she immediately went on, one could be forgiven for thinking it was all about the Bishop flaunting her woke credentials.
Please don’t.choose an evangelical. God bless
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
Pastor Martin Niemöller (opposition to the Nazi regime during the late 1930s)
Christ took every opportunity, as clergy should - to speak out against blatant, repugnant and evil behavior. I suspect that within a short time of Trump's presidency, as it descends into deeper levels of depravity - you will look back on this RUclips post with regret and shame.
Sadly, the Bible is the last frame of reference for this woke bishop. She imagines she understands things so much better now 😢😮
@@marcokitedon’t be unnecessarily nasty - anyone can pretend to be ordained - don’t hate like they hate 👍
How can you be a true Christian and not be woke. Christ is woke in his teachings, surely. Woke is a good and virtuous thing.
@@andybarton234
People thinking that simply referring to the Bible is 'nasty' is most of the problem. That's why the churches are packed full of false converts and most UK churches are run by atheists. Which by extension is why the west is in the state it is with the mass slaughter of infants, mutilating people, complete insanity denial of reality, the R gangs, etc.
False Prophet she should have prayed to god more
Unless she is stupid she knew how her words would be interpreted, it was for her own self promotion.
With all this safe-guarding, who's dictating it? The same state that helped cover up Jimmy Saville and the Grooming Gangs?
GFY