Hi 🌞I'm very happy to post my first Stray Kids imagine ✨ I love SKZ very much and they're incredible performers who value and comfort their fans a lot, just like BTS, so definitely go check them out if you're unfamiliar with them Who is who in Stray Kids [if they're new to you]: kprofiles.com/stray-kids-members-profile-facts/ I hope you watch this video even if the topic does not concern you, because as I say in the description, one day you might meet someone who experienced this and want to help them. And it goes for all my videos, knowing how to help another is as important as being comforted. I spent a lot of time and effort on this video, so drop a like or comment if you liked it 💗 STAY safe 💜💜💜 Music: [thank you Katie for helping with timestamps 💗] 0:02 Sunshine cover / R3 Music Box ruclips.net/video/X45DZyAiTG0/видео.html&ab_channel=R3MusicBox 2:06 Ex cover / R3 Music Box ruclips.net/video/-7YLn4MkNCY/видео.html&ab_channel=R3MusicBox 3:43 Again and again / h.p/ Nom ruclips.net/video/goZDAOJHYu4/видео.html&ab_channel=h.p 10:50 Blankets / Fantompower ruclips.net/video/E76u0_TyYfs/видео.html&ab_channel=fantompower-Topic 12:20 Why is the sky so blue / Nom ruclips.net/video/rrebb093cSo/видео.html&ab_channel=NomTunes-Topic 15:38 OH / Stray Kids 21:32 Running Out Of Time /No Spirit x Tonion ruclips.net/video/m_uD8qDiHhI/видео.html&ab_channel=LofiRecords 24:43 Dismantle / Peter Sandberg ruclips.net/video/zIKS_U5lRL0/видео.html&ab_channel=PeterSandberg-Topic 26:44 Ex / Stray Kids 31:47 Innocence / No Spirit ruclips.net/video/6LUJb_-RR7A/видео.html&ab_channel=LofiRecords 38:00 Thunderous / Stray Kids 41:04 Winter meadow / No Spirit x juniorodeo ruclips.net/video/RprlfXTafc8/видео.html&ab_channel=LofiRecords 46:11 Scars / Stray Kids
For being your first Stray Kids imagine it was amazing. You are amazing and so was the beginning, I thank you so much for this. You have an amazing imagination and empathy. With great love ❤️💕💗❤️❤️
This video deserves more praise and likes, it was well thought out, pure and full of info...the sincerity is amazing, well done on your first Stray kids image, it's a great work keep it up...I don't even know you but am very proud of you for this, thanks
As someone who is not only a survivor of sexual trauma and harassment, but also of prolonged sexual abuse from my ex boyfriend, this hit home for me. I love Chan dearly and this made my heart so warm like I wanted to yell and scream but I couldn't for so long and this video helped give me a voice so thank you to the moon and back
As an assault victim I can honestly say this video itself is a form of healing. Thank you.... I'm sure Channie is Proud.... It in many ways describes his demeanor in a loving friend way.
This is why I want to become friends with Straykids, they’re all so kind and ready to listen and help. I always have things that bother me but I can’t tell anybody about it, i feel like they’re the type of people that you would tell. Like I still wouldn’t say everything because there’s somethings I prob still couldn’t say but I definitely would say a lot of things. Thank you for making this, it truly comforted me a little
This was really helpful for me as I'm struggling with my trauma. I suffered from a different type of trauma to the one discussed in here (I'm a survivor of domestic abuse (which is basically any form of abuse from a family member)), but I felt myself relating to a lot of the conversations because my abuser was someone I loved and trusted and respected.
I'm glad it was helpful. Abuse is abuse and a lot of the patterns and feelings experienced as a result are similar no matter what type it is. I'm so sorry you were let down by someone who should have cared about you, wish you health, happiness and recovery 💜💜💜
@@taky1329 unfortunately for me recovery is hard because the people around me try to gaslight me into thinking that I don't have trauma and that I don't have PTSD... I can very much vouch for the fact that I have trauma and have PTSD... This is the reason I have a hard time trusting people... I just think that they'll gaslight me on everything (before anyone comes at me, yes I know gaslighting can be a form of trauma for some people... I'm yet to work out whether it's a trauma or not for me)
@@ciaranjohnston7983 You are not alone. You are loved, appreciated, and a blessing. I hope one day you will find happiness and inspire many people. You deserve to be happy, loved and appreciated. Know you never walk alone. ❤️💗💕❤️❤️❤️💗💕
I would have never thought that these 8 men would be my reason to happiness but here we are There own journeys are an inspiration for us stays to keep going If there is one dead end then there are 10 more streets waiting for you to start your journey through them This video was very comforting I have thankfully not been a victim of any sort of abuse but i can relate to the feeling of not being able to talk to anyone about your problems due to the fear that people will disregard them It doesn't matter how important the matter is to you but it will never be important to someone who doesn't care about you It could mean the world to you but it would be NOTHING absolutely NOTHING to them You just have to be careful about the people around you Don't be afraid to ask for help and be safe And lastly, Don't just keep wishing there are more great people in the world like Channie Be like him. Be the great person you are searching for to someone else aswell ❤
As a victim myself, I dont have many people in my life who know or would comfort me and just like you said, I feel stained. But this is really comforting
I know this video has been out for a while but I just wanted to thank you for making this. I dealt with an incident more recently and it’s just so much for me to handle. I feel like I can’t say a word about it or give any hint at all about what happened. It’s just such a painful experience. This video is definitely a nice silent way of getting comfort, it has certain phrases in it that comforted me a lot that I now think of when I get bad memories from what happened, I just feel so guilty and ashamed and I just keep blaming myself for everything that happened. Just thank you so much for making this video, you’re truly an amazing person.
Thank you so much for taking the time to comment 🥺 hearing that my videos managed to help someone is the absolute best 💕 And I'm sorry to hear you've experienced through trauma. No one should have to, these experiences leave such deep scars. I know it's so difficult to escape that feeling of self -blame and shame, but I hope you will manage to get there one day 💜 I wish you all the best, health and happiness, and lots and lots of sunshine ☀️
@@taky1329 Thank you so much, you’re so sweet. I’m glad that someone out here posts these kinds of videos to comfort people that may not be able to reach out, again I just wanted to say thank you. I hope you’re doing well too 💕💕💕
U really did some...amazing work here. I have fight myself to watch it.. and I regret. I will definitely come back to rewatch it. I hope you know you made it beautifully. And helped. Thank you 💛
Cannot express how much I absolutely love and appreciate this video. Find myself coming back to it anytime I have a hard day, and it's never failed to bring me comfort. Thank you for addressing such a difficult topic and all the effort you put into this one as well as all the others. I know plenty must feel similarly about them as well. Your words truly do help many 💜
Wow, so I've seen so many videos of yours an they're all so great! Especially the anxiety videos helped me a lot. I really want to thank you for your videos, editing skills and everything, you're like an comfort zone for me
Sorry for late reply 🥰 but thank you sm for your comment, it made me very happy 💜 I'm glad I can offer videos that comfort you, have a nice day and take care of yourself 💗
i dont have any words to explain to you how much I loved this, especially having this kind of experience.. not with a trusted person but as a kid... it left a mark and the memories faded but they are starting to come back now.... its hard but I know I can do it if I have straykids by my side,,, they saved me, they saved us. thank you for making this
A year later and its still a master piece. This has pulled a lot of strings i didn't know I had. It had me so emotional I didn't know what to do😭. Thank you for making this, it has helped a lot.
You have no idea how much I needed to hear his words… I cried watching this because I’m a victim of sexual assault and seeing videos like this really helps with getting over it and talking about it.. so thank you so much for this video ❤
Today it will be 23 years since it happened. But I still remember it like yesterday. I was 16, and thought I could trust my friends stepdad. I am mostly healed by it, but it still affects my relationships. At least at first, and also when I am around older men.
thank you for making this only 2 people know my story there my best guy friends there my safe place and reading a story where one of your favorite person is protecting you helps so much this is the only story ive read of your for now i will be reading more thank you again
I haven't experience this topic but I know how hurtful it could be and this ff was enormously comforting Appreciate your efforts Taky 💜 You spend time on watching videos about how these things feel like and how they can be healed , that's valuable 💜 Thanks for your care and take good care of yourself 💜
Why do things like alway keep making me cry i feel terible for anybody who espirienced this just know that people who watched this video are not going to jugde you for something that wasnt even your fault to begin with this world is just abusive and cruel but in your life try to have atleast one person who understands you and supports you for anything and everithing that you are
As someone who's an 8 time sexual assault victim SKZ help me through my severe trauma daily. This hits close to home. I love this, this is my new comfort video, especially with it being clips it feels so real and comforting to watch under a blanket. Edit: Not me crying while watching the last 30 minutes of this.
Stray Kids are here for you. What you went through should never happen to anyone, it's too much for one single human to handle, and you're handling it...you are strong You're still here and I'm so proud of you 💗
@@taky1329 I really appreciate this comment, It made me cry but in a good way. I hope to meet them one day so I can thank them in person, and cry a little bit. No one has ever said that to me thank you so much (•ө•)♡💕
@@MelissaSeoulLiving2023 aw. same! I hope we both get to see them I'm manifesting that for you, you deserve it so much. Please take good care of yourself 💜💜💜
@@taky1329 Thank you so much, I hope we both get to meet them too! I'm manifesting it right back :P I definitely will try to take good care of myself, please do the same 🥺💙
Wow, i m crying 😭 sorry my english is Not perfekt...i Show this Video and my Heart 💥 i Wish a can Talk to enyone...my Feelings....i don't No....but i Like you Video...
![Yoongi Imagine | 𝓈𝓉𝒶𝓎 𝒶𝓁𝒾𝓋𝑒 - comforting your difficult home life and exam stress [BTS fake subs]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/dX1lNQ-Xj9c/mqdefault.jpg)
Hi 🌞I'm very happy to post my first Stray Kids imagine ✨
I love SKZ very much and they're incredible performers who value and comfort their fans a lot, just like BTS, so definitely go
check them out if you're unfamiliar with them
Who is who in Stray Kids [if they're new to you]: kprofiles.com/stray-kids-members-profile-facts/
I hope you watch this video even if the topic does not concern you, because as I say in the description, one day you might meet
someone who experienced this and want to help them. And it goes for all my videos, knowing how to help another is as important as being comforted.
I spent a lot of time and effort on this video, so drop a like or comment if you liked it 💗
STAY safe 💜💜💜
Music: [thank you Katie for helping with timestamps 💗]
0:02 Sunshine cover / R3 Music Box
ruclips.net/video/X45DZyAiTG0/видео.html&ab_channel=R3MusicBox
2:06 Ex cover / R3 Music Box
ruclips.net/video/-7YLn4MkNCY/видео.html&ab_channel=R3MusicBox
3:43 Again and again / h.p/ Nom
ruclips.net/video/goZDAOJHYu4/видео.html&ab_channel=h.p
10:50 Blankets / Fantompower
ruclips.net/video/E76u0_TyYfs/видео.html&ab_channel=fantompower-Topic
12:20 Why is the sky so blue / Nom
ruclips.net/video/rrebb093cSo/видео.html&ab_channel=NomTunes-Topic
15:38 OH / Stray Kids
21:32 Running Out Of Time /No Spirit x Tonion
ruclips.net/video/m_uD8qDiHhI/видео.html&ab_channel=LofiRecords
24:43 Dismantle / Peter Sandberg
ruclips.net/video/zIKS_U5lRL0/видео.html&ab_channel=PeterSandberg-Topic
26:44 Ex / Stray Kids
31:47 Innocence / No Spirit
ruclips.net/video/6LUJb_-RR7A/видео.html&ab_channel=LofiRecords
38:00 Thunderous / Stray Kids
41:04 Winter meadow / No Spirit x juniorodeo
ruclips.net/video/RprlfXTafc8/видео.html&ab_channel=LofiRecords
46:11 Scars / Stray Kids
For being your first Stray Kids imagine it was amazing. You are amazing and so was the beginning, I thank you so much for this. You have an amazing imagination and empathy. With great love ❤️💕💗❤️❤️
@@joyful5209 ohh thank you, you're so sweet 🤯💕❣I'm glad you liked it! 💝
This video deserves more praise and likes, it was well thought out, pure and full of info...the sincerity is amazing, well done on your first Stray kids image, it's a great work keep it up...I don't even know you but am very proud of you for this, thanks
@@miguelascua3940 wow thank you, that's amazing praise 💗💗💗 I appreciate it a lot 💜 please take care!
As someone who is not only a survivor of sexual trauma and harassment, but also of prolonged sexual abuse from my ex boyfriend, this hit home for me. I love Chan dearly and this made my heart so warm like I wanted to yell and scream but I couldn't for so long and this video helped give me a voice so thank you to the moon and back
I feel like if Channie saw this he'd be proud.
Yeah
yeah especially bc its not one where it sexualizes him
Maybe he actually did saw it. Rumors says that he has a secret account where he spies on stay. Nobody knows
@@princessgirl3786how know he can be proud no one know
Hed be 100% be overwhelmingly proud ❤
As an assault victim I can honestly say this video itself is a form of healing. Thank you.... I'm sure Channie is Proud.... It in many ways describes his demeanor in a loving friend way.
This is why I want to become friends with Straykids, they’re all so kind and ready to listen and help. I always have things that bother me but I can’t tell anybody about it, i feel like they’re the type of people that you would tell. Like I still wouldn’t say everything because there’s somethings I prob still couldn’t say but I definitely would say a lot of things. Thank you for making this, it truly comforted me a little
I want to be their friend too 💜💜💜 you're welcome 🤗
Wow. This is what I call a good Fan Fiction! This really touched me. 💞
Sometimes I wish I had a friend like Channie to confide in and made me feel the way he does in the scenario. I got plenty to spill 😊
This was really helpful for me as I'm struggling with my trauma. I suffered from a different type of trauma to the one discussed in here (I'm a survivor of domestic abuse (which is basically any form of abuse from a family member)), but I felt myself relating to a lot of the conversations because my abuser was someone I loved and trusted and respected.
I'm glad it was helpful. Abuse is abuse and a lot of the patterns and feelings experienced as a result are similar no matter what type it is. I'm so sorry you were let down by someone who should have cared about you, wish you health, happiness and recovery 💜💜💜
@@taky1329 unfortunately for me recovery is hard because the people around me try to gaslight me into thinking that I don't have trauma and that I don't have PTSD... I can very much vouch for the fact that I have trauma and have PTSD... This is the reason I have a hard time trusting people... I just think that they'll gaslight me on everything (before anyone comes at me, yes I know gaslighting can be a form of trauma for some people... I'm yet to work out whether it's a trauma or not for me)
@@ciaranjohnston7983 You are not alone. You are loved, appreciated, and a blessing. I hope one day you will find happiness and inspire many people. You deserve to be happy, loved and appreciated. Know you never walk alone. ❤️💗💕❤️❤️❤️💗💕
@@ciaranjohnston7983 I hope you recover soon and just know your not alone, there are many people struggling as well
@@joyful5209 aww thank you so much
Wow. I was just blown away. This was deeply emotional and comforting. It's so well put together. A true master piece❤
I would have never thought that these 8 men would be my reason to happiness but here we are
There own journeys are an inspiration for us stays to keep going
If there is one dead end then there are 10 more streets waiting for you to start your journey through them
This video was very comforting
I have thankfully not been a victim of any sort of abuse but i can relate to the feeling of not being able to talk to anyone about your problems due to the fear that people will disregard them
It doesn't matter how important the matter is to you but it will never be important to someone who doesn't care about you
It could mean the world to you but it would be NOTHING absolutely NOTHING to them
You just have to be careful about the people around you
Don't be afraid to ask for help and be safe
And lastly, Don't just keep wishing there are more great people in the world like Channie
Be like him. Be the great person you are searching for to someone else aswell ❤
As a victim myself, I dont have many people in my life who know or would comfort me and just like you said, I feel stained. But this is really comforting
i love that its 49 mins bc normally you cant find ff that are that long for skz
Fr
I didn’t realize how much I needed this!!! Omg thank you so much!!
Wow. This had such a beautiful and comforting meaning, it is truly beautiful. Thank you for covering these topics and you expressed it beautifully💗
I know this video has been out for a while but I just wanted to thank you for making this. I dealt with an incident more recently and it’s just so much for me to handle. I feel like I can’t say a word about it or give any hint at all about what happened. It’s just such a painful experience. This video is definitely a nice silent way of getting comfort, it has certain phrases in it that comforted me a lot that I now think of when I get bad memories from what happened, I just feel so guilty and ashamed and I just keep blaming myself for everything that happened. Just thank you so much for making this video, you’re truly an amazing person.
Thank you so much for taking the time to comment 🥺 hearing that my videos managed to help someone is the absolute best 💕
And I'm sorry to hear you've experienced through trauma. No one should have to, these experiences leave such deep scars. I know it's so difficult to escape that feeling of self -blame and shame, but I hope you will manage to get there one day 💜 I wish you all the best, health and happiness, and lots and lots of sunshine ☀️
@@taky1329 Thank you so much, you’re so sweet. I’m glad that someone out here posts these kinds of videos to comfort people that may not be able to reach out, again I just wanted to say thank you. I hope you’re doing well too 💕💕💕
This was so beautiful, with the editing style, the story, everything. It was very touching and I wasn't ready for it to end.
U really did some...amazing work here. I have fight myself to watch it.. and I regret. I will definitely come back to rewatch it. I hope you know you made it beautifully. And helped. Thank you 💛
Ahh thank you...your comment really warmed my heart 💗 I'm so glad it helped. Thank you and take care of yourself 💜
Cannot express how much I absolutely love and appreciate this video. Find myself coming back to it anytime I have a hard day, and it's never failed to bring me comfort. Thank you for addressing such a difficult topic and all the effort you put into this one as well as all the others. I know plenty must feel similarly about them as well. Your words truly do help many 💜
Wow, so I've seen so many videos of yours an they're all so great! Especially the anxiety videos helped me a lot. I really want to thank you for your videos, editing skills and everything, you're like an comfort zone for me
Sorry for late reply 🥰 but thank you sm for your comment, it made me very happy 💜 I'm glad I can offer videos that comfort you, have a nice day
and take care of yourself 💗
@@taky1329 Have a great day too! 🤍
I’m here for you 💕💕
@@ari9313 Thank you, that means the world to me 💕
You did a really great job with such a tough topic. Well done, and beautiful.
i dont have any words to explain to you how much I loved this, especially having this kind of experience.. not with a trusted person but as a kid... it left a mark and the memories faded but they are starting to come back now.... its hard but I know I can do it if I have straykids by my side,,, they saved me, they saved us. thank you for making this
I can relate to Y/N in this story… it means a lot to me that you made this video 💜 thank you so much. take care of yourself and be happy please 🤗
A year later and its still a master piece. This has pulled a lot of strings i didn't know I had. It had me so emotional I didn't know what to do😭. Thank you for making this, it has helped a lot.
it is kind of video that comforting me... it was so real, you did a hard work. thank you
You have no idea how much I needed to hear his words… I cried watching this because I’m a victim of sexual assault and seeing videos like this really helps with getting over it and talking about it.. so thank you so much for this video ❤
You're very strong and I hope only good things happen to you for the rest of your life 💜
Omg, i was surprised to see this title! And as someone who went through something like this i think i'm gonna like this video, i'm gonna watch it rn.
Okay wow. That was beautiful, from the bottom of my heart: Thank you so much 🖤
I don’t know how I got here but this message was really beautiful and I felt a deep connection with this story so thank you!
This is very moving. And must have taken ages to edit. Well done ☺️
Thank you sm 💗
this video was incredible and i didnt even realize how long it was until i finished the video- also PFP TWINS
Yay! Yoongi stans unite 🙌😼 thank you, I'm glad you liked it ❤️
just a MASTERPIECE
Thank you so much for the sweet comment 💗💗💗 thank you and take care 🤗
So underated!!!!
The best video I've ever seen made by a Stay ♡♡♡♡
Infinite love to you
Thank you! Lots of love back ❤️
Beautiful and helpful as always ❤️🥺
Thank you! 💜💜💜💜💜
Thank you！ You are ａ blessing
absolutly love this thank you
One of the best 50 minutes of my life!
Stop cause that so so freaking good!!!!!!😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️
I love that !!❤ it feels like it a movie 🍿 I honestly love that !!
Today it will be 23 years since it happened. But I still remember it like yesterday.
I was 16, and thought I could trust my friends stepdad.
I am mostly healed by it, but it still affects my relationships. At least at first, and also when I am around older men.
I'm not crying, you're crying 😭
I love your channel and this videos are so helpful, keep going❤
Thank you! 🤧💜
This was beautiful. ❤
This is so good!!
thank you for making this only 2 people know my story there my best guy friends there my safe place and reading a story where one of your favorite person is protecting you helps so much this is the only story ive read of your for now i will be reading more thank you again
i literally cant explain my reaction rn, all i can say is that i love it even tho i found it after a year
I haven't experience this topic but I know how hurtful it could be and this ff was enormously comforting
Appreciate your efforts Taky 💜
You spend time on watching videos about how these things feel like and how they can be healed , that's valuable 💜
Thanks for your care and take good care of yourself 💜
Thank you dear 💜 I appreciate all your comments and support ☺️💗☺️ have a nice day today, don't stress
too much and take care of yourself 🥰
3:35
The song: 🥰🕊🌸
The dance: 👹🦍⛓️
Why do things like alway keep making me cry i feel terible for anybody who espirienced this just know that people who watched this video are not going to jugde you for something that wasnt even your fault to begin with this world is just abusive and cruel but in your life try to have atleast one person who understands you and supports you for anything and everithing that you are
As someone who's an 8 time sexual assault victim SKZ help me through my severe trauma daily. This hits close to home. I love this, this is my new comfort video, especially with it being clips it feels so real and comforting to watch under a blanket.
Edit: Not me crying while watching the last 30 minutes of this.
Stray Kids are here for you. What you went through should never happen to anyone, it's too much for one single human to handle, and you're handling it...you are strong
You're still here and I'm so proud of you 💗
@@taky1329 I really appreciate this comment, It made me cry but in a good way. I hope to meet them one day so I can thank them in person, and cry a little bit. No one has ever said that to me thank you so much (•ө•)♡💕
@@MelissaSeoulLiving2023 aw. same! I hope we both get to see them I'm manifesting that for you, you deserve it so much. Please take good care of yourself 💜💜💜
@@taky1329 Thank you so much, I hope we both get to meet them too! I'm manifesting it right back :P I definitely will try to take good care of myself, please do the same 🥺💙
Heyy Melissa idk what happened to you and I'm so sorry!!! The world is so cruel! Ik I'm a month too late! How are you!!
I love this. I'm so sorry I'm late to it. I've been working on something so I forgot to comment. 😲💜💜💜 Thank you for all your hard work.
Oh don't worry! What did you work on? 🥰 I appreciate your comment a lot 💜💜💜
@@taky1329 your dreamcatcher. 😊 I've nearly finished it.
@@m.j.1470 oh I'm sorry! I'm tired and fuzzy-brained today so it didn't instantly click to me it was you who commented haha. 💜💜💜
@@taky1329 It's all good. 😁 No worries.
I love the ending BEORDUUDURUFU
We were just talking… *then we weren’t*
He was just teaching me… *until he wasn’t*🫶
OMFG STOP I READ THT WRONG I THOUGHT U MEANT HE SA'D OMG SDJVNENR I WAS ABT TO GO CRAZY
Nooo never😭❤
At a moment I freaked so hard, thinking it was Felix who rapped her, because of the first picture of the mv 😅
Ah nooo I'm sorry 😿absolutely not, sunshine Lix would never do such a thing 🌞
@@taky1329 by the way I really liked your production, it was very sensitive and you express very well all emotions of the characters
@@rikki23 thank you! 🥰
Iwas too much in it that i cried :( 😆😭
The cat really looks like mine😂😂
what it the song at 24:59 called??? @taky
All the music is listed in the pinned comment
will there be a part 2 or another Bang Chan imagine
Hi ,I'm working on a few other videos at the moment, but I will definitely make more Stray Kids videos, and maybe also a part 2 to this video
WHO'S CUTTING UNIONS
What's the song at 16:45?
All the songs are listed in pinned comment
Wow, i m crying 😭 sorry my english is Not perfekt...i Show this Video and my Heart 💥 i Wish a can Talk to enyone...my Feelings....i don't No....but i Like you Video...
I'm sorry you don't have anyone to talk to... 💜 Stays and Stray Kids boys are always here for you 🥰
@@taky1329 thank you 💜🥰
Can you do Taemin shinee please ? 🖤
I'm very busy atm, but I'll see what I can do 💗
@@taky1329 its ok , take your time 🖤
Cool but I thought it was his voice 😢
“Hehe” 😏
“NO HEHE” 😡
Wow
Kinda Hard For me to Understand cus i dont undersome some of the words 💀 like those smart words.. im just dumb 👌😋
Sorry haha but you're definitely not dumb!