Arthur Hayes on Why Bitcoin Is Money and ETH Is a Shitcoin He Loves - Ep. 587

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  • Опубликовано: 14 янв 2025

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  • @RyanHoguePassiveIncome
    @RyanHoguePassiveIncome Год назад +3

    Arthur is great, thanks for having him on!

  • @vicjokoper8142
    @vicjokoper8142 Год назад +25

    Artur is one of the brightest minds in crypto

    • @michael2275
      @michael2275 Год назад +5

      Yup and he knows 'crypto' is crap and bitcoin is the only thing worth holding long term as an asset.

    • @vicjokoper8142
      @vicjokoper8142 Год назад

      @@michael2275 He literally said he is an ETH maxi

    • @Brian-vk1hm
      @Brian-vk1hm Год назад +1

      Yup he realized crypto is a scam. Bitcoin is the only non scam

    • @adamc2320
      @adamc2320 Год назад

      @@Brian-vk1hm Lol most other cryptos are literal just copied and pasted from the bitcoin codebase so it's ludicrous to call them all scams but not Bitcoin.

    • @HSukePup
      @HSukePup Год назад +4

      ​@@Brian-vk1hm Nowhere in the video did he say that. He loves crypto, especially Ethereum. To him, it's utility, decentralized computer, and a commodity that does something useful. Bitcoin on the other hand, is just an investment that allows you to trade back to fiat later on for gains. That's what he meant by "money". Outside of that, Bitcoin is useless.
      He was pretty open about that in the video. He just wants to make money. The "shitcoin" part in the title was him joking about his love for crypto.

  • @Four_Eyes
    @Four_Eyes Год назад +7

    arthur always makes a great guest, good insights and lots of lols

  • @WestCoastAce27
    @WestCoastAce27 Год назад +7

    Good job as always Laura. HNY.

  • @69pepe420
    @69pepe420 Год назад +31

    arthur pushes whatever narrative hes trying to make money on in the moment

    • @Brian-vk1hm
      @Brian-vk1hm Год назад +12

      Eth is a shitcoin

    • @goldmantracks
      @goldmantracks Год назад +14

      i wanted to believe this and write him off but have many many macro professionals cross checking his liquidity forecasts against their own and he has been dead on balls accurate. his btc outlook is one thing you gotta separate from his shitcoin antics

    • @gotRekt-er1mj
      @gotRekt-er1mj Год назад

      yeh u cant look at this dude one-dimensionally, that being said I'd never follow his trades LOL@@goldmantracks

    • @rivianado8430
      @rivianado8430 Год назад

      Exactly! -Every Arthur interview revolves around his positions at that particular time.

    • @hiuofwreqc
      @hiuofwreqc Год назад

      Eth is for ppl who think they know stuff but are actually quite clueless so they just believe watever a nerdy lookin russian computer geek says.

  • @xSalamz
    @xSalamz Год назад +3

    Let's get to the money in 2024.

  • @mikhelBrown
    @mikhelBrown Год назад +5

    My favorite Club bouncer-looking Smart Crypto Billionaire is back! 💯

  • @salient244
    @salient244 Год назад +7

    Arthur never disappoints

  • @InvestwithJase
    @InvestwithJase Год назад

    Love the title of this podcast one of the best ones I’ve seen from you

  • @gregero
    @gregero Год назад +2

    Good and insightful guest 👍🏼

  • @penghunter4565
    @penghunter4565 Год назад

    This was LitLikeACivic!

  • @gen-X-trader
    @gen-X-trader Год назад +8

    Arthur is such a marketer 😂

    • @goldmantracks
      @goldmantracks Год назад +6

      love that he is direct that he pamp and damp sol literally no fucks given you love to see it

    • @MarviRafaelMontecillo
      @MarviRafaelMontecillo Год назад

      i wonder if he's playing chess and would be dumping by 2024

  • @lento2307
    @lento2307 Год назад +3

    Asking who Arthur is, says more about the person asking the question. Great conversation Laura and by far the best way to close the year.

    • @HSukePup
      @HSukePup Год назад +1

      I'm surprised he's able to talk and influence crypto while still being on probation. Still the only one big one who got away with just a slap on the wrist.

    • @format27
      @format27 Год назад +1

      @@HSukePup he pleaded guilty for violating the bank secrecy act which isn’t a felony and doesn’t mean he was committing money laundering, his business was not primarily in the United States as well

    • @HSukePup
      @HSukePup Год назад +1

      @@format27 Same as CZ and Binance, and they got hit harder. Government is going overboard with punishments lately.

    • @juneack5848
      @juneack5848 9 месяцев назад

      Government wanted the information of people using bitmex. KYC. He was protecting people at a financial and legal cost

  • @polish2x91
    @polish2x91 Год назад +2

    Laura maintaining her composure and fighting her urge to reign in Arthur’s language was the 2nd best part. The best part being Arthur speaking.

  • @389293912
    @389293912 Год назад +3

    Tether is doing exactly what the Federal Reserve does: it buys assets with printed money (USDT). Right? When you sell Bitcoin for USDT that is a repo operation: Tether is lending you printed money (USDT) for your Bitcoin and that Bitcoin goes on its "Balance Sheet".

    • @youcandoit-r2
      @youcandoit-r2 11 месяцев назад

      Is crypto parallel to fractional reserve banking ?

  • @miraeja
    @miraeja 11 месяцев назад

    To be honest, I really love post-ankle bracelet/post-mex Arthur.

  • @HODL_BTC
    @HODL_BTC Год назад +6

    Arthur has played more games with the market than SBF ever did...let that sink in. Fact.

    • @format27
      @format27 Год назад +3

      Why compare him to SBF? He wasn’t stealing customer funds and gambling

    • @youwillnotgetmyintents
      @youwillnotgetmyintents Год назад

      @@format27 what about their internal trading desk and large markouts that would occur on bitmex? there is certainly some questionable market microstructure that arose from bitmex and maybe that was just function of immature market but possibly sign of their misconduct. indictment also sheds a light on this, also offering this quanto product to retail with 100x leverage just doesn’t sit well with me but look gambling is totally fine usecase.

    • @HODL_BTC
      @HODL_BTC Год назад +1

      ​@@format27 Yeah BitMEX has had nothing to do with market manipulation....cough..cough... Wonder who the CEO was then ....cough cough

  • @AlanaDooley-nb5lm
    @AlanaDooley-nb5lm Год назад

    Presale magic at its finest - Staxum STX is the one to watch.

  • @МаринаХамидуллина-ы5э

    >Great content as always. Technical Analysis is good but I find It truly baffling that major crypto youtubers just look mostly at pure T.A and completely ignore the bigger narrative of why BTC is pumping and why the future outlook will be even rosier than it seems. It's kinder irresponsible to ignore the fact that each ETF launch so far has caused a major pump at the peaks of BTC. More emphasis should be put into day trading as it is ^less affected by the unpredictable nature of the market. I have made over 13 btc from day trading with Kristin Stones insights and signals. this is one of the best medium to backup your assets incase it goes bearish...

    • @GaryRock-u9z
      @GaryRock-u9z Год назад

      I am grateful for the opportunity to learn from such a distinguished professional. Thank you Kristine Stones....

    • @gujjarpur866
      @gujjarpur866 Год назад

      Kristine Stone guidance has not only contributed to my skill development as a trader but has also instilled a sense of confidence in navigating the ever-changing market landscape.

    • @JessicaBurke-u7g
      @JessicaBurke-u7g Год назад

      Thanks to her insightful and forward-thinking market research, she is a trusted resource for traders trying to stay ahead in the hectic world of finance....

    • @TheRobiin12
      @TheRobiin12 Год назад

      Please educate me, I've come across this before. How can I get to her please?

    • @scheys3201
      @scheys3201 Год назад

      she's mostly on Telegrams, using the user name.
      ....

  • @jordanmiller11
    @jordanmiller11 Год назад +4

    It’s clear he has no idea how AI works. It’s not a separate organism. At least not yet.

    • @AlexofCharmCity
      @AlexofCharmCity Год назад +1

      Correct

    • @ericwilson2632
      @ericwilson2632 Год назад +1

      😂 you clearly don't know how AI works😂

    • @ashranbakth5861
      @ashranbakth5861 11 месяцев назад

      He’s talking about how AI neural network will get so advanced that it will replicate as if it’s a organism of some sort. We are not there yet but it’s going to happen eventually.

  • @mskmsk7174
    @mskmsk7174 Год назад +3

    Apart from his swearing, Arthur is super articulate.

  • @penghunter4565
    @penghunter4565 Год назад

    Free my boy!

  • @389293912
    @389293912 Год назад +1

    We already saw the huge green, one hour candle at 1am EST upon the fake ETF approval announcement. What's going to happen if that situation goes on for 8 hours before the markets open? Grayscale is already online ready to go, with an 8% Bitcoin discount. What are people going to FOMO into on day 0 when all the other ETFs have to ramp up? How big is that green Grayscale candle going to be?

  • @ggunjaca
    @ggunjaca Год назад +5

    He's using quite a lot of the F word for someone that's meditating

    • @WestCoastAce27
      @WestCoastAce27 Год назад +6

      He’s playing a character; doesn’t want people to think of him as a private school then Wharton kid.
      Just have to ignore it. He has a lot of good info about BTC.

    • @drunvert
      @drunvert Год назад +1

      Fuckin A right

  • @Rich_7755
    @Rich_7755 Год назад

    Arthor would have a lot different view on USD and money if he deep dived the offshore dollar system.

  • @martinlutherkingjr.5582
    @martinlutherkingjr.5582 Год назад +1

    16:00 😂 For someone who interviews people on a cryoto podcast regularly, it’s pretty bizarre she doesn’t know not to ask someone about their bitcoin custody setup. Rofl

    • @LauraShin
      @LauraShin Год назад

      It’s not that I didn’t know! I realized it as I was asking

  • @DjangoVonShaft
    @DjangoVonShaft Год назад +1

    Arthur please grow a beard!!

  • @havemaskwilltravel
    @havemaskwilltravel Год назад

    Great interview, thanks. Why the vocal fry?

  • @iamripoff
    @iamripoff 11 месяцев назад

    Arthur - stole my funds back in the day - Hayes!

  • @389293912
    @389293912 Год назад +1

    All these Maxis that say Lightning will fix Bitcoin are deceiving themselves: Lightning is not Bitcoin. Bitcoin itself is obsolete and thus needs all this add on junk to be usable.

  • @ttabasso
    @ttabasso Год назад +1

    people are way over complicating this /// being 100% in BTC - is like being a 100% in cash but your on the other side ... through the Looking Glass and out of the the old system which is the current hamster wheel / tread mill - Tradfi is really Treadfi ....

  • @alexhubble
    @alexhubble Год назад

    Not sure I agree 100% with Arthur's AI analysis. If your AI program is able to 1) realise it needs energy 2) 'cares' about its network - you've got problems beyond currency.

  • @flowbrandz316
    @flowbrandz316 Год назад

    If you love ETH, then you would probably love Cardano if it's actually about the tech and ethos for you.

  • @leemosey
    @leemosey Год назад

    Arthur is a very smart guy! And bang on too. Eth is a total shitcoin and Vitalik WILL go to prison

  • @gregdiprinzio9280
    @gregdiprinzio9280 Год назад

    The only one needing to take the pain is SBF. Justice should be done. We a system where no one can get away with OPM. His parents assets need to be sold, bought politicians need to give back the stolen money. SBF should own nothing. Investors should get their crypto, not the cash equivalent of when they invested. People trusted FTX with Bitcoin and it is Bitcoin they should receive back, not skim off the profits and return the initial investment. Investors crypto should be inaccessible to the administrators.

  • @meyroakabigrem1679
    @meyroakabigrem1679 Год назад +1

    Bitcoin for decentralised global money and Filecoin for decentralised global data storage. Both vital for humanity

  • @dkcb7
    @dkcb7 11 месяцев назад

    look at the previous cycles bro, every 80th week after halving time to get out

  • @lith1156
    @lith1156 Год назад +2

    Arthur is a financial goon 😂 but a legend and genius!

  • @meyroakabigrem1679
    @meyroakabigrem1679 Год назад

    BTC will continue to gain adoption en mass over the next decade. I’m also very bullish on Filecoin as the ultimate protocol for data storag, poised to displace Google, Amazon and Microsoft in this space. I suggest simply keep stacking into BTC and also FIL for long term and consistent gains over time. At some point the masses will catch on to the need for decentralised money and the exponential demand for decentralised data storage..

    • @Andrew-ig5sp
      @Andrew-ig5sp Год назад

      The masses have no money to invest. It’s the rich that must want BTC now. Billions are needed now. The shit coins will out preform.

  • @ZayierQadri-np2wu
    @ZayierQadri-np2wu Год назад

    Staxum, easy 50-200x in next few months

  • @phillip34
    @phillip34 Год назад

    What if SBF wrote an essay about AH titled Black boy. Hmm wonder 🤔 how that might go?

  • @jessicacurtis8450
    @jessicacurtis8450 Год назад

    Arthur and Laura would make a very cute couple 😀

  • @Pyrosxrp
    @Pyrosxrp Год назад

    She wrote a book on eth and won’t acknowledge the disguised whales or ICO…. Blinders on and repeat the narrative! Brutal 🤦‍♂️

  • @Random415510
    @Random415510 Год назад

    A man worth 500 million laughing about pumping and dumping.

  • @AntonioLopez-2050
    @AntonioLopez-2050 Год назад

    Eth to 5000 Next year..

    • @drunvert
      @drunvert Год назад

      Yes. If not soon then 4th quarter

  • @Snowmano42
    @Snowmano42 Год назад

    To say Solana only has copy pasted Ethereum stuff is hilarious. Send it higher.

  • @TaneseMaroney
    @TaneseMaroney Год назад

    Not here to shill, but the Times Square ad for Staxum made me Google it.

  • @justkaz7104
    @justkaz7104 Год назад

    59

  • @bursarynetwork2758
    @bursarynetwork2758 Год назад

    He lost cash in the last run, he's just trying to recover ...

  • @jefffoster8399
    @jefffoster8399 Год назад

    😂😂 That you think Arthur holds his Bitcoin on an exchange. Please tell me you understand Bitcoin after all these years?

  • @HeyOldFather
    @HeyOldFather Год назад

    1. In the past, many experts used their expertise to explain how sound banks are. However, how many banks have failed in the past few years? When these results appear, experts will suddenly appear and talk about their super theories. Some experts will even say that they have actually predicted what will happen a long time ago... These are all results.
    2. Certain experts continue to tell the public their predictions, and as long as a few of the predictions come true, they are experts.
    3. Do those experts know that their predictions will cause market volatility?😏 Will they apologize when their predictions don't come true?😏
    #expert
    #Responsible
    #If you speak seriously, you will be trusted

    • @ericwilson2632
      @ericwilson2632 Год назад

      😂 Charles Darwin was clearly and idiot in the end😂🎉😂

  • @richking4705
    @richking4705 Год назад

    Chainlink is a shit coin I love

  • @BrandyBenally
    @BrandyBenally Год назад

    In the world of presales, Staxum STX stands out. Brace yourselves for a possible 200x journey!

  • @jebbuhdiah-dean
    @jebbuhdiah-dean Год назад

    Poor Ms. Shin has to put up with Bigshot Pottymouth; gross

  • @niklase5901
    @niklase5901 Год назад +5

    This is dumb: ”Bitcoin is energy”. No it is not! Bitcoin has an insane consensus algorithm that wastes a lot of energy.
    And the energy is not used to solve a cryptographic proof.
    The energy use is a design to create a cost to be in the set of validators that can produce a block.
    The validators spend all that energy to guess a number and when the guess is correct, the validator gets a reward and get to add that block.
    I don’t like pow, i think it’s a ridiculously slow and wasteful algorithm. The engineer in me is appalled by it.

    • @mountainof7
      @mountainof7 Год назад +6

      and the engineer in you will be poor by it

    • @michael2275
      @michael2275 Год назад +4

      Super naive.

  • @jasonweishaupt1828
    @jasonweishaupt1828 Год назад +2

    Where did you dig Tyrone up at?

    • @beanabong2896
      @beanabong2896 Год назад +2

      Well Biff, they probably got him from that location were all the people who've made hundreds of millions in crypto live.

  • @entonces1986
    @entonces1986 Год назад +8

    Why use the F word for each sentence. I don't get it. Ok we got you made it, but chill man...

    • @beerkegaard
      @beerkegaard Год назад +20

      Why make fuck you money if you can’t say fuck you?

    • @dongshengdi773
      @dongshengdi773 Год назад

      @@beerkegaard I love Laura Shin , she has nocoins.
      I also want to buy nocoins.
      Nocoin to the Moon 🚀🚀🚀

    • @meme64561
      @meme64561 Год назад

      @@beerkegaardTHIS!

    • @obikiowesmith1776
      @obikiowesmith1776 Год назад

      Who gives a fuck. Did you not like the movie wolf of wall st. Grow up

    • @ffirstllast3328
      @ffirstllast3328 Год назад

      O m g ... Don't be such a snow flake. Maybe cut your TV on and see more F bombs? Get over yourself. Quit letting the little things destroy your life.

  • @markwilkins8314
    @markwilkins8314 Год назад

    Pump and dump😊

  • @FunboyFandango
    @FunboyFandango Год назад

    Conman

  • @S54VR6
    @S54VR6 Год назад

    Very shitcoiny

  • @donTeo136
    @donTeo136 Год назад

    I fail to see how eth continues to dominate given its fees.
    It's not like u going to be trading 250 usd in memes , in and out profitable with it.

    • @drunvert
      @drunvert Год назад

      It can continue to do what it does with high fees for the people that want to be in that environment and other chains like Solana or avalanche can do meme coins

    • @drunvert
      @drunvert Год назад

      @@MrPsymon808 That's how they make all of their money is on fees. That is the business model. The fees are a percentage of the value so if somebody buys in with $100,000 and that becomes 100 million they're now paying fees on 100 million you need to read a book

    • @donTeo136
      @donTeo136 Год назад

      AVAX has most of the market in Cefi, KkR, JPMORGAN, more..and those that are not announced yet. It should be obvious that Eth is not adequate for the big tradfi shops.

    • @ppatil3655
      @ppatil3655 Год назад

      the users punting 250 usd on memecoins are not the users Ethereum L1 is for and the fees are determined by a open, free market. Only thing that makes the entire industry investable is lindy and economic security driving value for native base assets nothing else matters.

  • @MostAlpha
    @MostAlpha Год назад

    BTC is going to Z E R O

  • @michael2275
    @michael2275 Год назад +11

    Future is bitcoin not 'crypto'. Rest of 'crypto' is all replaceable/interchangeable except bitcoin therefore little value will accrue to the rest and many will come and go.

    • @skdfdjkdfjkd
      @skdfdjkdfjkd Год назад +3

      the future is Kaspa

    • @x1k790
      @x1k790 Год назад

      Crypto is the future.
      All services that can be on chain will be on chain.
      Place your bets 🎲🃏🪙

    • @adriandelreal9126
      @adriandelreal9126 Год назад +1

      How is bitcoin any different what sets it apart?

    • @kodinnnov
      @kodinnnov Год назад

      @@adriandelreal9126 it's different by his developers don't hold 90% of the supply and dump it on the investors

    • @Emre-lm9dk
      @Emre-lm9dk Год назад

      @@adriandelreal9126 network effect. A store of value. It's not for daily use or trade. That's what makes it different. All others will come and go. Top 10 list always changes every 5 years..

  • @KidGlo
    @KidGlo Год назад

    bro just sold a bunch of tokens at a $5M loss, used to think he was smart but clearly not LMAOOOO

    • @drunvert
      @drunvert Год назад +1

      If I sell stocks at a $3,000 loss it's to take the rest of my money and put it somewhere else. Broken lose 5 million and not be bent about it then he's fine

  • @YungContentshow
    @YungContentshow Год назад

    Arthur investment in Etherfi is gonna make me rich

  • @terranceradford8789
    @terranceradford8789 Год назад

    ICP does everything ETH does cheaper, faster, and more efficiently

  • @ThrowEmBack
    @ThrowEmBack Год назад

    This dude Arthur weird and he need to use Vaseline on them lips lol

  • @michael2275
    @michael2275 Год назад +4

    Well we agree that ETH is crap as a long term asset to hold. Only bitcoin for me.

    • @binkydamauler
      @binkydamauler Год назад +2

      ETH >> BTC, IMHO

    • @michael2275
      @michael2275 Год назад +2

      @@binkydamauler You are sadly mistaken sir. BTC is money. Few in ETH understand money. Arthur gets it.

    • @jeankevin1758
      @jeankevin1758 Год назад

      @@michael2275 BTC is more like memecoin or gold it doesnt generate value, ethereum does.

    • @Brian-vk1hm
      @Brian-vk1hm Год назад +1

      How could a 70% premined coin possibly be better than btc? Lol

    • @HSukePup
      @HSukePup Год назад +1

      Did you even watch the video? Arthur loves ETH. His view is that Bitcoin is money that doesn't do anything useful while ETH is the decentralized computer that does the useful stuff. If you care about tech, support Ethereum; if you only want to see money go up and trade back to fiat, get Bitcoin. Title is mostly clickbait.

  • @jeankevin1758
    @jeankevin1758 Год назад +2

    BTC is more like memecoin or gold it doesnt generate value, ethereum does.

  • @michael2275
    @michael2275 Год назад +1

    39:33 Laura is such a $hitcoiner...sad. Seems like Asians really don't get bitcoin vs. the rest.

  • @rjames3981
    @rjames3981 Год назад +2

    New Year’s Resolution. Bitcoin & Litecoin halving supply shock effect coming down the track..🌨️….⛷️
    Last ‘round of halvings’ signalled the beginnings of the 2019 - 2021 price surge!" Bitcoin & Litecoin top 2 for payments 🛒 🏃‍♀️