I didn't see an update video on this issue. You mention that in your case and others the flames resulted when the 8-pin power supply connector/s were removed and the card powered up. Just a thought - maybe the MB alone cannot deliver enough power to run the card. This could stress the on-card regulators which may be prone to catastrophic failure if the incoming supply dips for too long. Ideally, the card should refuse to power on if the 8-pin power is not available, or maybe it should run in a reduced performance limp mode. Flames are a pretty dramatic way of signalling that the main power is not connected.
I talked about this a bit on one of my live shows. The GPU was replaced in less than a week, and the new card has been running strong. I have a feeling that the power delivery controller was faulty. It likely degraded over time to a point where it shorted out. When the power supply 8-pin was connected, it was tripping the protection on the supply. When I disconnected the 8-pin, there was no protection on the motherboard, and when it delivered its 75W of power, that's when the chip blew. It burned two different components on the board, seen here: imgur.com/a/GyIfF This is a failure I've seen more than once on internet forums. I hesitate to say it's a problem with this model GPU, but at least a few of these have burst into flames like this. To your point, typically these cards will at least POST to a screen that says "please connect external power", which is what I was attempting to test. Since the power circuit itself was damaged on the board, when *any* power was applied, it couldn't handle it. At least, that's what I suspect.
I bet Evga makes this right, they've always treated me well, they replaced a psu that failed 3 weeks out of warranty, no questions asked. The customer rep said: close enough, which shocked me. I thought I was going to be wasting my time.
I was in contact with EVGA today. It looks like they're going to warranty the card. Will update either in a video, or in an upcoming live show (Every Wednesday, 8pm Pacific). /ShamelessPlug
I'll reply to myself as I wanted to add that my 295x2 came with several sticklers and warnings prior to install, ie. insufficient power will result in a fire, it has to draw 75w from the mobo or it's a fire situation. I think this was the problem here, but I'm no pro and am only mildly drunk. PCper have a vid on it.
I believe that was speaking more insufficient power delivery from the power supply can cause a fire either on the motherboard (drawing more than 75W is a no-no there), or overloading the 12V rails in the power supply. In my case, I believe I was encountering short circuit protection when the card initially failed (which is why the system refused to power on at all with the 8-pin leads installed). Removing the 8-pin power bypassed the short, leading to the fire on the card itself. Nothing else was damaged in my system. Your point is valid, just for different circumstances. Thanks for watching!
That exact thing just happened to me. I just put a brand new ITX computer together with an Evga Gtx 1660 Black and the very first time I turned it on, it began to smoke and caught fire. This alarms me greatly. I have another 1660 in an ATX build and I've had that one for a year and a half with no issues. I emailed Evga about this and hopefully they will get back to me.
This issue is not related to the EVGA / Nvidia Cards, hat the same thing on my Sapphire 7970 6G Toxic back in the days, thought Corsair PSU was faulty, didnt put one 8 pin strong back in, bootet the System, the VRM that was connected tot the other 8 pin became white and i had smoke and an orange flash - same as you but only because of loose 8 Pin Connector, System was an FX 8350 and 990FX ASRock Board, Card was in PCIE Slot and i never got a new one because the dealer closed... PSU and Rest still working today.
Internal dialogue went something like this.... "Should I be filming this?... Probably... But I just want to get it done so I can move onto a more exciting project... *POOF*... well damn. That would have a made a great video." Next time, I'll listen to myself.
I was thinking of buying a GTX 1080 Strix because it was the same price/cheaper than the 1070 (Ti)s, but I looked at the reviews, and there are a ton of people claiming that their cards died after just a few months or DOA. I looked at 1080s from MSI, EVGA, Gigabyte, Zotac and it seems that the 1080s just have an extraordinarily high failure rate?
Well that sucks. My 380X died recently too now I'm stuck with an HD 5450. Unfortunately it's an Asus card so I have to deal with some of the worst customer support in the tech branch and at least one more month before I hear anything about getting another card. Look on the bright side, the 770 isn't a 5450, that and nobody got hurt and it was only the graphics card, could have been a lot worse.
Yep, my 1070 FTW just caught fire when testing it without the 8-pin connectors. It died earlier when in use, I assumed the PSU failed because I couldn't see where the smoke was coming from and didn't see anything blown up on the motherboard. Plugged in a new PSU to the motherboard alone to test it, almost burned myself when the GPU of all things started shooting flames at me... I'm going back to Founders Edition cards.
Now I'm worried about my 1080 FTW2. Since installing it, my rig won't power down correctly. It just hangs on a blank screen, but continues to run. And I'm getting terrible screen flashes. Almost makes gaming impossible at times.
mine did not catch fire. But last month it developed coil whine and started to idle at 56c. Then today when playing Rise of The Tomb Raider it froze and had artifacts all over the screen when I turned vsync off. So it's going back to EVGA since it is still under warranty (only 3 months left)
This just happened to me from cold boot, wish it happened last year now I have no way to get a new GPU... I wonder if EVGA will help at all seeing that it's out of warranty.
my 970 ftw shut off well playing fallout and I figured maybe i was having something overheat... waited 10 mins... powered it back on and the gpu lit up with black smoke..... they replaced it under rma but stuff like that shouldnt happen
I just troubled a friends pc with the exact same issues. he went against my recommendation and took the pc to geek squad, and they said there was nothing wrong with the pc and stated that they were able to get it to post. he brought the pc to me and we could not get it to post let alone get power to the system at all. so i started unplugging devices and when i got to the 8 pins being out of the 1080 ftw acx 3.0 and powered the pc with the card in pcie 16 boom flames and smoke. So at the time i felt really bad for destroying his gpu, but with some searching i found he was not alone. so my question is what happend in your RMA proccess and what were they willing to do for you. if you did come back to talk abou this in one of your videos can you please annotate it. thanks
is it the same ftw card? and have you had any issues with it since? also did they happen to tell you what they did to the replacement card to keep this issue from reoccurring?
+Foggy_n2 Ive had no problems since, although I'm not running an OC on it right now. Most of that is explained in the video. They updated the firmware to give it a more aggressive fan curve, and added thermal pads to the backplate behind the VRMs. None of that mattered in my case, as it was the voltage control chip that caught fire, not the VRM itself, and it was not caused by overheating, but from a cold boot. I'm guessing this is a case of a bad batch of parts, but have no way to verify that claim.
I had nearly the exact same situation about 1 hour ago. 1070 FTW I bought back in 2016. I was playing rocket league and my system just powered off in the middle of a game. I couldn't get it to come back on. After unplugging and plugging it back in several times and letting the system stay off for 10-15 minutes and trying again and no luck. I finally decided to start unplugging components - RAM and GPU. After removing those system fired right up. I plugged the RAM back in system still worked. I put the GPU back system wouldn't boot. THis time I unplugged the leads from the video card and powered on the system. Almost immediately smoked started coming out of the back of the card followed by flames. Shocked I turned the system off as fast as I could... the room even after an hour still smells of smoke. I called EVGA and it appears my card is out of warranty now... sooo yeah I'm screwed. I didn't even know about this issue until it happened. Edit: spelling mistakes
My EVGA GTX 1080 FTW caught fire over the weekend, and I looked at the BIOS post code- PCI device - Graphic Card! And my issue also wasn't over heating either when card started smoking!
@@CraftComputing thanks alot for the quick reply, did u managed to know what was the problem ? should i worry about my power supply and consider replacing it soon, or is it even safe to install a new gpu on my system ? sry for the long questions but this dramatic experience left alot of questions in my head to be honest
MB wasn't the problem. The VRM controller on the 1080 had friend, which was tripping my PSU short protection. When I removed the 8-pin, the MB was still able to deliver power. As the components had already failed, and with no protection, the parts just shorted out.
Why do people keep buying cards from evga ?? jesus... Their pcb has poor quality components. The heat is just another thing that could trigger it. When I heard this a few months back I sold mine as fast as I could and bought one from MSI.. Now I dont have to worry about my pc catching fire.
Craft Computing it was the exact same card yeah. EVGA support seems like it will pull through because my card is still under their 3 year warranty. Sent it in for an RMA two days ago.
Well you shouldnt disconnect any pcie devices regardless of the motherboard or either the cables when you still have the PSU powered. Good video instead (y)
I didn't see an update video on this issue. You mention that in your case and others the flames resulted when the 8-pin power supply connector/s were removed and the card powered up. Just a thought - maybe the MB alone cannot deliver enough power to run the card. This could stress the on-card regulators which may be prone to catastrophic failure if the incoming supply dips for too long. Ideally, the card should refuse to power on if the 8-pin power is not available, or maybe it should run in a reduced performance limp mode. Flames are a pretty dramatic way of signalling that the main power is not connected.
I talked about this a bit on one of my live shows. The GPU was replaced in less than a week, and the new card has been running strong.
I have a feeling that the power delivery controller was faulty. It likely degraded over time to a point where it shorted out. When the power supply 8-pin was connected, it was tripping the protection on the supply. When I disconnected the 8-pin, there was no protection on the motherboard, and when it delivered its 75W of power, that's when the chip blew.
It burned two different components on the board, seen here: imgur.com/a/GyIfF
This is a failure I've seen more than once on internet forums. I hesitate to say it's a problem with this model GPU, but at least a few of these have burst into flames like this.
To your point, typically these cards will at least POST to a screen that says "please connect external power", which is what I was attempting to test. Since the power circuit itself was damaged on the board, when *any* power was applied, it couldn't handle it. At least, that's what I suspect.
I think one of my cards would beep if the 8 pins were not in, wasn't a 1080 though
my 1080ti (evga ftw3) locks the system and prints an error on a connected screen prompting to insert the 8 pin pcie power connectors.
Bad batch of SMD capacitors from what I heard - zero difference to be made by cooling. Hopefully your PCIe slot and 24-pin are ok.
I bet Evga makes this right, they've always treated me well, they replaced a psu that failed 3 weeks out of warranty, no questions asked. The customer rep said: close enough, which shocked me. I thought I was going to be wasting my time.
Published on Oct 16, 2017 how was the issue sorted,looks like you gave up the computing side and became an alcoholic,only joking of course.
I was in contact with EVGA today. It looks like they're going to warranty the card. Will update either in a video, or in an upcoming live show (Every Wednesday, 8pm Pacific). /ShamelessPlug
Flames = More FPS
I'll reply to myself as I wanted to add that my 295x2 came with several sticklers and warnings prior to install, ie. insufficient power will result in a fire, it has to draw 75w from the mobo or it's a fire situation. I think this was the problem here, but I'm no pro and am only mildly drunk.
PCper have a vid on it.
I believe that was speaking more insufficient power delivery from the power supply can cause a fire either on the motherboard (drawing more than 75W is a no-no there), or overloading the 12V rails in the power supply.
In my case, I believe I was encountering short circuit protection when the card initially failed (which is why the system refused to power on at all with the 8-pin leads installed). Removing the 8-pin power bypassed the short, leading to the fire on the card itself. Nothing else was damaged in my system.
Your point is valid, just for different circumstances.
Thanks for watching!
That exact thing just happened to me. I just put a brand new ITX computer together with an Evga Gtx 1660 Black and the very first time I turned it on, it began to smoke and caught fire. This alarms me greatly. I have another 1660 in an ATX build and I've had that one for a year and a half with no issues. I emailed Evga about this and hopefully they will get back to me.
This issue is not related to the EVGA / Nvidia Cards, hat the same thing on my Sapphire 7970 6G Toxic back in the days, thought Corsair PSU was faulty, didnt put one 8 pin strong back in, bootet the System, the VRM that was connected tot the other 8 pin became white and i had smoke and an orange flash - same as you but only because of loose 8 Pin Connector, System was an FX 8350 and 990FX ASRock Board, Card was in PCIE Slot and i never got a new one because the dealer closed... PSU and Rest still working today.
Shame you didnt get footage of those flames!!!
Internal dialogue went something like this.... "Should I be filming this?... Probably... But I just want to get it done so I can move onto a more exciting project... *POOF*... well damn. That would have a made a great video."
Next time, I'll listen to myself.
I was thinking of buying a GTX 1080 Strix because it was the same price/cheaper than the 1070 (Ti)s, but I looked at the reviews, and there are a ton of people claiming that their cards died after just a few months or DOA. I looked at 1080s from MSI, EVGA, Gigabyte, Zotac and it seems that the 1080s just have an extraordinarily high failure rate?
From what I understand, after all this time, this FTW version is still having problems with overheating? The Bios update didn't fix this issue?
Well that sucks. My 380X died recently too now I'm stuck with an HD 5450. Unfortunately it's an Asus card so I have to deal with some of the worst customer support in the tech branch and at least one more month before I hear anything about getting another card. Look on the bright side, the 770 isn't a 5450, that and nobody got hurt and it was only the graphics card, could have been a lot worse.
Yep, my 1070 FTW just caught fire when testing it without the 8-pin connectors. It died earlier when in use, I assumed the PSU failed because I couldn't see where the smoke was coming from and didn't see anything blown up on the motherboard. Plugged in a new PSU to the motherboard alone to test it, almost burned myself when the GPU of all things started shooting flames at me... I'm going back to Founders Edition cards.
Now I'm worried about my 1080 FTW2. Since installing it, my rig won't power down correctly. It just hangs on a blank screen, but continues to run. And I'm getting terrible screen flashes. Almost makes gaming impossible at times.
Yea bad caps...i did the VRM mod and sold my EVGA 1070FTW and bought a Asus 1080ti Strix such a great gpu/cooler.
mine did not catch fire. But last month it developed coil whine and started to idle at 56c. Then today when playing Rise of The Tomb Raider it froze and had artifacts all over the screen when I turned vsync off. So it's going back to EVGA since it is still under warranty (only 3 months left)
Post credit awesomeness!
This just happened to me from cold boot, wish it happened last year now I have no way to get a new GPU... I wonder if EVGA will help at all seeing that it's out of warranty.
my 970 ftw shut off well playing fallout and I figured maybe i was having something overheat... waited 10 mins... powered it back on and the gpu lit up with black smoke..... they replaced it under rma but stuff like that shouldnt happen
my 1080FTW caught fire last week, She had a good run.
Hopefully things can only get better, beer soon I hope ;-( Flaming hell..
Definitely beer soon. I'm cracking open a rare bottle during the live show this Wednesday!
I just troubled a friends pc with the exact same issues. he went against my recommendation and took the pc to geek squad, and they said there was nothing wrong with the pc and stated that they were able to get it to post. he brought the pc to me and we could not get it to post let alone get power to the system at all. so i started unplugging devices and when i got to the 8 pins being out of the 1080 ftw acx 3.0 and powered the pc with the card in pcie 16 boom flames and smoke. So at the time i felt really bad for destroying his gpu, but with some searching i found he was not alone.
so my question is what happend in your RMA proccess and what were they willing to do for you. if you did come back to talk abou this in one of your videos can you please annotate it.
thanks
Foggy_n2 RMA went smoothly. They replaced the 1080 no questions asked. Had a new card within a week of submitting the claim.
is it the same ftw card? and have you had any issues with it since? also did they happen to tell you what they did to the replacement card to keep this issue from reoccurring?
+Foggy_n2 Ive had no problems since, although I'm not running an OC on it right now. Most of that is explained in the video. They updated the firmware to give it a more aggressive fan curve, and added thermal pads to the backplate behind the VRMs. None of that mattered in my case, as it was the voltage control chip that caught fire, not the VRM itself, and it was not caused by overheating, but from a cold boot.
I'm guessing this is a case of a bad batch of parts, but have no way to verify that claim.
I had nearly the exact same situation about 1 hour ago. 1070 FTW I bought back in 2016. I was playing rocket league and my system just powered off in the middle of a game. I couldn't get it to come back on. After unplugging and plugging it back in several times and letting the system stay off for 10-15 minutes and trying again and no luck. I finally decided to start unplugging components - RAM and GPU. After removing those system fired right up. I plugged the RAM back in system still worked. I put the GPU back system wouldn't boot. THis time I unplugged the leads from the video card and powered on the system. Almost immediately smoked started coming out of the back of the card followed by flames. Shocked I turned the system off as fast as I could... the room even after an hour still smells of smoke. I called EVGA and it appears my card is out of warranty now... sooo yeah I'm screwed. I didn't even know about this issue until it happened.
Edit: spelling mistakes
Any update from EVGA? It’s a fire hazard!! I mean.. what if your house burn down? EVGA should be responsible even the card isn’t under warranty.
@@29alex82 Yeah they sent me a 1080 as a replacement for free.
Its not just those cards. I have a EVGA 1070 that keeps frying. I have RMA'ed it twice.
Try a Laphroaig. Very flavoursome whisky. Damn good video btw
I'll have to get some of that. Thanks!
My EVGA GTX 1080 FTW caught fire over the weekend, and I looked at the BIOS post code- PCI device - Graphic Card! And my issue also wasn't over heating either when card started smoking!
I just had the same issue yesterday and i saw smokes coming up from my GPU...is it fixable ?
edit: my GPU is EVGA gtx 1080 hybrid
Not repairable by you. But do reach out to EVGA and check you ur warranty status. They were very easy to work with and got mine replaced.
@@CraftComputing thanks alot for the quick reply, did u managed to know what was the problem ?
should i worry about my power supply and consider replacing it soon, or is it even safe to install a new gpu on my system ?
sry for the long questions but this dramatic experience left alot of questions in my head to be honest
just after I passed my rma , as the same steps, the card burns, the card have some design problems in the power supply unit
did u manage to get it sorted from evga?
Yes. They asked zero questions, and I had a new card 6 days later.
@Craft Computing : Wow! That is amazing. I have always loved EVGA. I now have even more reason to respect that brand.
I'm so pissed now I dong get to play because this blew up nice I left evga a nice message never getting thier products ever
I was in a middle of playing a game when smoke emerged from my card.
What's that glass though?
Rocks glass from Ikea. I don't remember the fake Swedish name for it.
My msi aero gtx aero just caught fire!
Maybe you could send back the motherboard
MB wasn't the problem. The VRM controller on the 1080 had friend, which was tripping my PSU short protection. When I removed the 8-pin, the MB was still able to deliver power. As the components had already failed, and with no protection, the parts just shorted out.
Craft Computing I understand that but since you said you bought a replacement why not send it back
Ah. I could, but meh... I always need hardware around here.
Craft Computing always good to have back ups, my 970 went and now I am hoping prices fall, not paying these insane prices
none of my video cards have ever caught fire.
RIP 1080 ftw
1080 FTL :c
Ha! same card i have in my system. currently mining 24/7(apart when gaming)
Drink up, bud.
Always
Ya it's because the videocard is pulling all the 180watts power from the PCI-E connector....why 2 much!!!
Pliny for parts? Hit me up if your interested!
Why do people keep buying cards from evga ?? jesus... Their pcb has poor quality components. The heat is just another thing that could trigger it. When I heard this a few months back I sold mine as fast as I could and bought one from MSI.. Now I dont have to worry about my pc catching fire.
Mmmmmm Scotch , try Glen Moray 12 year, good value
+jeffie8696 I'll add that one to my rotation :-)
The Singleton Glendullan 12 year too
I've had that one :-D
Just happened to me a few hours ago.
Oh no!! Same card?
Craft Computing it was the exact same card yeah. EVGA support seems like it will pull through because my card is still under their 3 year warranty. Sent it in for an RMA two days ago.
Yeah, they are always awesome to work with. Let me know how it goes!
hi.. i using 12 cores xeon cpu too haha same its nice haha haha
It didn't fail on cold boot, you left it on overnight and in the morning it had already failed.
MrMaxeemum watch the video again and listen carefully
Well you shouldnt disconnect any pcie devices regardless of the motherboard or either the cables when you still have the PSU powered. Good video instead (y)