Im doing the same thing. Sony has priced themselves out of their own market. If they are trying to take a stab at Leica for their pricing, they better get with Leica and learn how Leica does their customer service. Switching MFT this weekend.
It's pretty sad leaving a system, I've been going in the opposite direction down to micro 4 thirds. I'm mainly a stills photographer but it's a shame I've only just come across your channel.
We get so attached to our gear, especially when it is doing its job and letting us enjoy shooting. There is a lot love about micro four thirds, enjoy the lighter bag!
You just convinced me to stick with my M43 setup. I have an S1 that I love, but I just packed my GH5 and a bunch of lenses into a backpack that would have just given me enough room for my S1 and a 24-70 and some batteries. And I just feel like I am an M43 user in my soul. Which is why I got a little choked up at the end of this video. And also why I need to so some soul searching about why a video about a camera system got me choked up.
I think out cameras become an extension of ourselves, so we can’t help becoming both physically and emotionally attached to them. I am trying to look at my gear as merely tools, but they are much more than that.
Like some others here, I left m43 and then returned. Didnt realize how truly great the system was until I got out of it. I kept a cheap full-frame body, Canon6D to use where necessary (primarily indoors poor lighting) and use m43 for most other purposes. Wildlife and landscape are where price/performance of m43 is unmatched IMO, especially with the advent of AI based noise reduction like DeepPrime
You are a talented photographer, and this was a very well done, objective video. For the work you do, I understand the switch to Sony, but eventually, I suspect you will be back in the m4/3's camp -- it may not happen until your body starts lobbying for lighter, smaller gear. For me, I used 4/3's sensors for all of my digital professional work (wedding, portraits, and corporate events) since the old Olympus E-20 until about a year ago (E-M1 Mkll) when I decided to 'hang up my hat' and start shooting for myself. Wildlife/Birds, Scenic, Nature, and Macro are the areas I enjoy. I now have the Olympus E-M1X, as well as a couple E-M1 Mk1's, and I can say that the long telephoto realm is where Micro Four Thirds will continue to shine -- due to size, weight, and cost of other systems. Enjoy your new Sony gear -- it's impressive stuff.
Thanks very much for the kind words! My body already prefers the smaller, lighter gear! I will definitely be back to a smaller system at some point, I have been enjoying shooting film on my Olympus 35SP rangefinder a lot lately, it has a fixed lens, so I don’t bring anything but the camera. It is pretty liberating. I totally agree about the long end, there is nothing in full frame that can compare to MFT’s reach. I haven’t picked up a telephoto lens yet, it is the only piece I haven’t replaced yet. Looking forward to what Panasonic and OM do in the new year, who knows, maybe they will lure me back!
i always remember when i bought my first GH4 back in 2015. it was a beast back then, and i really enjoyed using it. Without that camera, i wouldn't able to make income from wedding and other projects. because of that, I'm still sticking on MFT with GH6 as my recent equipment for years to come.
I am sure it will serve you even better than the GH4 did. You cant find a more well rounded mirrorless camera or one with the extensive video features that Lumix packed into the GH6. The 5 and 5S were also beast status.
I have a GH4, one of my twins has a GH4, and the other twin has a GH5. We use the 12-35, the 35-100, and I use the 30mm macro for portraits, and to digitize film. It has not been a problem to copy film with it, despite the roughly 2" distance from lens to film. I use the EFH (Essential Film Holder), which does not require much working room between camera and itself. The 30mm has also been great for closeups in filmmaking, especially when working a foot or more from the camera, down to an inch. Despite all the new and wonderful full frame gear out there, I just can't see the expense paying off for what we do. Now, if sports and landscape work were my specialties, that might be a different story.
(one year later)I considered $ony. Then I added the A7rIV plus the 24-70 and the 70-200... newest version and soon realized $ony needs to be a light years ahead of my Olympus gear or its a no launch for me. The Rocket is still on the pad :-) Still love the way my G9 marries so well to the Olympus lenses, as well. Great walk down memory lane :)
I would advise keeping the extra special lenses. I am someone who went from Panasonic MFT to Canon several years ago but a year ago I sold off much of my Canon gear and went back to MFT, and while I bought several new lenses but I was so glad I had those old Pana-Leica lenses. Why go back? Well, in many ways MFT is the Bolex of today. I am old enough to have started in film back in 1962. Back then Indioe filmmakers had a love/hate relationship with Bolex, most having started and learned their craft on low budget Bolex-made films. Ultimately their is something special about the smaller system that gives so much because there is magic in working within constraints so going back to the smaller format. BTW, agreed, the Leica 12mm f1.4 has much of the same Leica quality as the Noct. The Oly 100-400 is a better choice than the Lumix version because it takes teleconverters and as a result is a brilliant macro lens. I love that Laowa 7.5 f2. I use it a lot. For a fisheye I love the Oly 1.8. Another Oly that is brilliant is the 60 macro, much better than the 30 macro from either brand. I got the G9 but are planning to get the GH5 M2 and the set of Sirui anamorphics. Sell the 100-300 and 14-140, but keep the Leicas and the 2.8 zooms. There will come a time when you will be glad you kept them. The feature sets and perfect size of Lumix cameras means it is almost inevitable that you will be tempted back into the system. For all its flaws, there is simply something likeable about their cameras.
I think you made an amazing comparison between Bolex and MFT, that is exactly correct! I used to joke, otr maybe half joke that I wanted my Nocticron buried with me when I go. I have actually sold all the Leica’s and the zooms now, was sad to part with them, but excited about a new system after so many years. My new Sony cameras are the same size as my old MFT cams and the prime lenses are very small and light. I think they have found the best balance between size and quality. Sadly no format packs as much functionality into their cameras as Lumix does, they are extremely intuitive and have the best menus as well. Hopefully MFT sticks around for a long time!
@@Robservatory and how big are your equivalent aperture Sony lenses? About 3x the size, weight, and price. The advantage of m4/3 was never the body size.
I use a set of Sony F/1.8 primes, they are actually pretty small and light! There are no equivalent aperture lenses available on M43 though, at least in depth of field terms. You would need F/0.9 lenses to match that. I also use Tamron F/2.8 zooms which are all compact, affordable and amazing quality. I am doing it purely for image quality purposes in photo and video, and for work. I don’t want a light bag to shoot birds on Sundays. I shoot a Leica or a Fuji when I want to travel light.
@@Robservatory there actually are f0.95 lenses for mft by Voigtlander. And not everyone shooting MFT is “shooting birds on Sundays”, as you yourself demonstrated in this video.
Those GH4 stills were incredible. What in the WORLD! Thanks for showing what is possible. Obviously you have a lot of experience but still nice to know what's possible
As Arnie once said! I use FF and M43 for differing situations btw. At the end of the day it’s the photographer not the camera that finds the great images and you definitely have talent. 👏📸
Ah yes that's with everything, gear doesn't really matter, it's the idea, technique & know-how that makes the image, knowledge of the gear used if it's very limited is also required to get the best from it, if you know it's limitations and what it does well you got to work in front of the lens to get the desired result. Same as with music.. so many musicians obsess over gear but in the end albums have been recorded with all types of different gear & media throughout the ages and a great player can make any instrument sound good or can make music with things that aren't even instruments.., just like a good producer can get a track down no matter what the tools are.
Enjoyed your video, and agreed very much with your thoughts. I have a G9 and a G90 and love the MFT system. It meets my needs. I have the 42.5 Nocticron and although I don't use it a lot it is magical! Like you, my most used lens is the 14-140 and if I could only have one lens it would be that one. Such a great range for general/travel/street photography. 👍 I also have the 7-14 and the 100-400, so have 7-400 covered for good light/outdoor scenarios and I have the Pana Leica primes (as well as Laowa 10mm) for low light/ faster aperture situations. The G9 is such a brilliant value for money hybrid camera. I know you like the GH5, but I'd definitely recommend the G9. 😊
Thanks! You have an almost perfect gear bag! You just need to swap the 7-14mm with the 8-18mm so you can use filters. I totally agree about the G9. The G9 punches way above its weight and is probably the best value camera money can buy. I felt pain every time I saw the G9 get firmware updates and my GH5 got left in the dust.
@@Robservatory thanks. I do use filters with my 7-14! I bought an adapter that allows me to use screw on filters and I really like the 7-14, so never really been tempted to swap it for the 8-18. I think the 7-14 matches better with my 14-140 anyway and I get that slightly wider 7mm. 🙂
I've been shooting the G9 and 100-400mm for about a year now and I'm finding it more capable than many told me it would be. Given the complexity of modern cameras I think it unlikely most photographers can really get to know a system in less than six months. You have some really nice images and I"m glad you took the time to give MFT a little shout-out. Can you tell us what system you will be trying next?
Thank you! I have tried a few systems now, Sony, Fuji, Leica and a couple others. I like Sony the best because of its high quality images, especially video. Fuji makes the prettiest still photos, and Leica is luxury all the way. I am doing a huge purge and will keep one Sony body and a couple of lenses. Unfortunately I’ve gotten into astrophotography and need money for telescopes 😂 Your G9 and 100-400mm is a perfect combo, no other system has that reach, in that size, at that price.
Thanks for sharing! I have never watched your videos before but you make amazing pictures in my opinion. Love those skateboarding clips too. Ciao from Portugal. Jan.
This video is something else, been using Lumix gear for almost 2 years now, and I LOVE my Lumix cameras (G9 and GX85) I think they are the best hybrid affordable system (debating on getting another G9) but lately I've been debating if to move to FF (canon) for photos (video would be still on my Lumix cameras), I feel you could get faster and cheaper lenses for FF than on MFT and for the ISO performance too, I'm debating alot really, and watching this video makes me sort of sad for thinking that I'm not using my gear properly, or not appreciating what I have, so thanks for this eye opener, your shots look AMAZING really ! like between the best I've seen on any sensor and systems, but honestly now I don't know what to think or to do, I would like to know your input on my comment, really appreciate this video and it's strange but I feel sad that someone SO talented is leaving a system I love, but wish you the best on your career and work, and hope that you come back for the GH6 ;)
Sorry for the slow reply Andy! Just had a baby and things have been a wild ride. You're in the same boat that I was and it is indeed a tough decision to make. I originally was going to buy a Canon for photos and stick with MFT for video, I really didn't feel like I needed too much of an upgrade from the GH5 in the video department. I ended up going Sony because I got an amazing deal on an A7RII. Sony's bodies and lenses are smaller than Canon, the bodies are actually smaller and lighter than my GH5! I think you are right about the G9, there is no other camera that provides the same value, it is really amazing. I was always a bit mad that the G9 gets firmware updates continually making it better and better and there was nothing for my GH5. At the end of the day you have to ask yourself if you are hitting the limits of your current system. I felt like I was and decided to go back to full frame and the extra dynamic range and bit depth is 100% impactful for me, I could see it on my first day shooting photos. I also notice the benefits of the 42mp sensor vs the GH5's 20mp, my prints look better and I have more options for cropping now. I will definitely be getting an even higher res camera in the future. I think if you are considering going full frame then you are probably looking to step up your quality a bit and that is certainly the way to do it. There are a lot of options in FF nowadays, maybe look at something from Lumix? The S5 is pretty affordable, and I really like their series of F/1.8 prime lenses, they are affordable and are all built at the same size, so they would be amazing for video as well. A Lumix camera would match with your G9 as a second camera nicely.
@@Robservatory no problem, appreciate the time you took to replay, congrats on the baby 🎉 hope everything goes well 💪🏻 and yes everything you said basically explains my case, and btw I already bought a system, haven’t received it yet but got an amazing deal on it, a Canon RP and a 50mm 1.8 to test it out, see how I feel with the system and if I like it, I’ll invest in something better in the future. The reason I didn’t went with Lumix for FF is that, they’re AWESOME cameras, and I know without a doubt that I would love it, mostly for video, so I wanted to give myself a chance to try some other brand, but we’ll see, If I don’t like it, I could always sell it and try some other FF brand, but anyways, thanks again for taking your time to answer me 🙏🏻
Yes, the 14-140mm lens is my most used lens too mainly for taking sunsets for a few years now. Next is the 100-400mm Leica Zoom for sport and wildlife. These on a G9 and lately a GX9. So sad the latter doesn't have a flip screen. I thought Panasonic knew we all like flippy screens!
Really enjoyed the video and especially the recommendations and samples. You take beautiful pictures. Trying to keep dual systems with Canon and MFT. Actually expanding the MFT because of age and the desire to travel lighter as my old EF lens are just too heavy.
Thanks, Gary! I looked at going Canon as I still shoot film as well and thought it would be nice to use EF lenses for film, digital photo, and video, but they are definitely too big and are getting a bit dated on the new mirrorless bodies. The RF mount lenses are amazing, but outside of what I wanted to spend. Pretty happy with the Sony gear so far, the size, weight and price are nicely balanced. I have been going out with just one prime lens at a time lately and enjoying not carrying a bag at all. Hopefully travel will be possible again soon, regardless of system I always bring way to much gear wherever I go haha!
Thanks so much!! Your explanations about your experiences and nuances btw. the various lens choices is SO Informative!! I will remain a big fan of yours!!
nice video, but can't agree regarding the Panasonic 100-300mm: the picture quality of the Pana 100-300mm is very good, whereas the Leica 100-400mm is even better, as you would expect for about triple the price. And don't forget the weight difference, the Leica is nearly double the weight. Sure, the plastic body of the Pana 100-300mm may not feel as premium as the metal body of the Leica, but it makes the lens lightweight and more shock-resistant when dropping the lens. Lastly, it's not true that the Leica 100-400mm is faster (F4.0-6.3). Actually at 300mm the Pana 100-300mm is slightly faster (F5.6) than the Leica 100-400mm (F5.7). If you get the newer Panasonic 100-300mm II it even comes with weather-sealing. So if you can't afford the premium price for the premium Leica lens, the Panasonic 100-300mm (II) is a great option.
You have some really beautiful photos. I was amazed at the night shots with the Lumix camera considering folks are always saying MFT is no good in low light. Were they handheld or on tripod. Thanks p.s. I loved the heartfelt goodbye to your "children". Very nice touch. :)
Thanks very much! The night shots were all tripod long exposures. I did find micro four thirds to be somewhat bad in lowlight. I do a lot of night street photography now and prefer my Fuji APSC camera even over my full frame cameras, so it's not all about sensor size. It really depends on the noise the sensor produces at high ISO.
@@Robservatory thanks for your reply. I do love Fuji, but wasn't sure if APSC was enough of a jump from MFT ro make it worthwhile adding/changing. I have relatively small investment in mft lenses and also legacy Nikkor manual lenses when desired that I've had since 80's. Funny they get more use now with my G9 than ever before.
So awesome to hear about your Skateboarding roots. Subscribed😃. I just bought an gh5 from eBay and use it with a speedbooster and a 8mm fisheye. Footage looks awesome so far. Cheers from Germany
Yes, I feel the change has been worth it. I felt that MFT was stagnating and I was right, the GH6 is a great camera, but it wasn't enough to keep me in the format. I'm on mostly a Sony system now, but also shoot a Fuji and a Leica and I much prefer the photos and videos I'm making with those systems to my older Panasonic gear. No regrets so far!
It's totally a Canadian thing lol (and I remember them too so I'm old as well). Noticed some Vancouver subjects so your send off was my arrival to micro four thirds. If you have anything left let me know. I hope it's all going well with Sony or wherever you went! I jumped into photography with a OEM DE1 so will look out for some of those Lumix lenses, wish me luck!
Nice to hear your thoughts and experiences. I do both videos and photography. For me, the image quality I get out of my Blackmagic Pocket 4K and ZCam E2 M4 rivals what I got when I rented Arri Classics. There is just so much flexibility hence more bang for buck especially with the so many great lens options. It's really a matter of personal preference!
I love the 30 macro because I love taking pictures of cats - the cats I keep they often rush toward me and it's useful to have a shorter focus length. For the stray cats I use tele.
Love the 12-35 and 35-100 f2.8 lenses. The 12-60 Leica is a good carry around lens. The bodies I use are the G9 and GX85. The one thing I miss on the 85 is an audio in jack. Why disable the body this way? Light and small is what I like. Also a Fuji user. Twice the sensor size without twice the weight. Love the film sims. Also like the dials. I don’t see the need for FF for my street photography. The sad truth is buying more expensive gear won’t make my image better. That is where more education and experience comes in. Hope your new system provides you the benefits you desire. Mask On Nurse Marty
@@Robservatory No doubt Fuji is a good choice. They’ve come out with some very nice new bodies I’m not buying. What I have is more than sufficient for my needs and skill level. For my needs M43:& APSC are fine. For most people M43 or APSC is fine. I think some people are gear shamed into full frame. I’m happy with my crop sensor gear and that is all that matters. PS: the Panasonic 15mm lens is dandy for street photography. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
OK, I am a m43rds shooter--Olympus to be precise--and I just found your channel. Too bad really, since it appears that this will be your last m43rds video? Your photos look great, by the way. I hope you have success with whatever system you're moving into as well. Cameras are just tools, but the feel of every tool is different, and sometimes, one will just fit the user right. I run two systems now, Olympus and Canon. One is m43rds, and one is 35mm (full-frame). For everyday photography, I prefer using my Olympus gear, and to be honest, I think that I tend to get better photos from the smaller format overall, though not exclusively. Again, comfort, and familiarity should not be underestimated. Anyway, I enjoyed your video. Good luck with your future endevours.
Many thanks for the thoughtful reply! I agree that cameras are just tools, but they are also an extension of ourselves in many ways. I still miss my GX8, that tiltable evf and articulating lcd make it so useable. I have decided to not be brand specific moving forward, I am open to shooting on anything. I have about 20 cameras covering almost all brands at this point. I still shoot film as well, so I am a bit overloaded with gear, as well as genres and subject matter haha! I’m not certain if I will make more videos focusing on MFT gear in the future, but I definitely will be making loads about photography, filmmaking, printing, and audio. Best wishes to you as well!
What did you switch to? How do you feel about it a couple years later? I've been a Nikon shooter for about a decade, started with D5100, then D7200, D750 and now Z6ii. But thinking about getting something smaller for travel...
I switched to Sony and have no regrets at all. In the years since I have branched out and these days I mostly shoot a Fuji X100V or my trusty Leica M4P film camera. I love the X100V and bring it with me on all my travels except where I might do astrophotography or lots of landscape work, in those cases I pack a big bag.
I am sure all the photographer around the world one day will be held micro 4/3 tail very soon you are one of those.You note it down in your mind. Sony, canon and all other brand will be tremendously manufactured micro 4/3 camera in future 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
No, not going to happen. Micro Four Thirds will last as long as Sony advances MFT sensors. All the advantages of MFT have pretty much been surpassed by full frame. In the future you will use your phone or a full frame, everything in the middle will die off.
@@Robservatory the advantage of micro4/3 *is the smaller sensor size* because it can use much smaller lenses. You can’t change that reality. And phones don’t have telephoto lenses, good battery life, or operational speed, so no they’re not replacing anything other than the cheap point and shoots that every non photographer used to own.
Hi, Thanks for the video and a very nice MFT system analysis. And I am actually very thankfull to people like you,leaving MFT system for FF like Sony A1 or Canon R5, We have at least here in Switzerland a huge amount of GH5,OM even BMPCC4K for half the price or even less. Even the lens are really cheap to get. So big thanks to leaver it permitted me coming from professional audio recording to expend my services and start multicam recording of concerts with Pana GH5,5s and BMPCC4K. And for me the crop is great because I can have almost middle Telefoto with prime 50mm on GH4,GH5 because my subject are always far away I found for my purpose MFT much more suited for vs FF. So big thanks for people leaving MFT it makes used lenses and body even cheaper and for people starting it is great news...about FF I don't deny the advantages but for my special needs it is too expensive imho...I hope maybe Blackmagic come out with 8K MFT chip (if you look at the Ursa mini 12k it is probably doable) so it would put life again in the system...because OM and Panasonic have problems to retain people in the system...and are loosing each day people to FF... Greatings from Biel cold and foggy here
I think MFT is perfect for your needs. The crop factor works so well for telephoto shooting like events and wildlife. I think the GH5 still has a lot of life for video production. I wanted to stay with the format but it seems to be on its way out and I need a system that will continue well into the future, especially on the photography side where MFT is not as strong.
Congrats for you baby enjoy,it is fantastic got 3 kids so it is challenging but like I use to say no risk no fun...(I found the answer of my questions in the commentary ) superb image quality and video Bravo loved it...and bravo for Sony A7rii it was that or A1 I would have bet. I would have picked,maybe R5C...but for Foto not appropriated...
@@filipmichalsaffray441 Thank you Filip! Being a father is definitely challenging so far, I haven't slept in a month haha! Yes, I went with an A7Rii, A7Siii, and an origial A7R which I converted to infrared. Enjoying the new gear so far. I will post a new video about the A7Rii with lots of photos today or tomorrow :)
@@Robservatory Hi great choice...Sony full frame are really great...I kind of dream of the A7iv with the 4k oversampled from 7k and 35Mpixel for Foto are really great vs R Sony Line still not enough Resolution for big print but for me and my video use perfect. By the way you recommanded Alex Lut for GH5,5s I use mostly leeming lut or ACEScct Pipeline and manual grade in Resolve. But I am interested for Alex Lut for camera matching (leeming is fine but ETTR is always tricky with skin tones) is Alex so good and exposing in low light is ok or tricky? Maybe you have some advice or maybe did you try filmconvert as well? Hope you and your family are fine and I will look at your channel for new videos about the new Sony caméras... Yours Fil
Loved watching this, I understand you have to move forward also. Thanks for at least praising the gx8, I have one and don't understand all the negative reviews (maybe they are not using it properly?) I personally just like photography as a hobby but none the less find the micro four thirds gear more than adequate. I think a lot of people are just after the next best thing, and then believe the last model or lens is no good anymore.... a lot of marketing nonsense. Anyhoo great inspiring video and all the best for your future👍
Thanks Robert! Man I loved my GX8, would still be using it now if it weren’t for me doing a lot more print work. I agree there are way too many people pushing new gear and not new skills and experiences. Best Regards, Rob
My history with M43 is short, my first camera was GH4 year ago. Today I have GH5 and 14-140 you mentioned. But I don't know if my skill are lacking. Sure yes, must have. Watching other peoples photos I'm 100% sure about this. My problems are, skills and light. I love when its dark or dim. So really hurts me that i don't know how to use my camera. Every photo, its not sharp, it's not bright. Its painful and depressing. More and more I want to switch to full frame. But seeing your photos gives me hope but in same time leaves me with more questions, how do you do so incredible work. I need to find answers on my own. Also, photos and film are my hobby so there learning curve is much greater than professionals who are living from photos and films. Thank you, list of lenses that are great to use on lumix cameras!
It's kinda like the Corvette. Cheverelete had done all they could do to make the performance of the Vette as good as a front mounted engine could do, but at the end of the day they made the choice to move the engine to a better performing location. Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do. MFT is a fantastic medium, but we all know it's about 80% of what a full frame can achieve. I am actually just getting into MFT's becuase for me lightweight and small is key. I move around a lot, lots' of run & gun shooting at events. But, for my product photo's it's all FF.
😎 I literally have all the µ4/3 cameras you had. Recently picked up the GH5II over the E-M1X, it being the true video version of a G9. However, went the M.Zuiko Pro route in regards with glass. I chose their 45mm/1.2 over the Nocticron due to the weather-sealing. It’s a shame I am only discovering your work now. I only really seek out professionals using µ4/3. I find the talent more interesting, and ironically more creative. I believe the format fosters inherently more imagination by nature. I sincerely hope you don’t morph into one of those guys that continually rant about “that FF look.” I personally find it nauseating as it is overrated. Talent is not in the format, it is in the person behind the sensor. Format is technically irrelevant… Good luck on your future endeavours, I think the µ4/3 community is losing one it’s more creative.perspectives… …
I fully agree about the MFT format fostering creativity. In my case it gave me access to tools that were the right mix of size, price and quality to allow me to shoot photos and videos full time. I’m not going to morph into a full framer or a gear reviewer/marketer. I just upgraded all my gear so I am doing some gear centric content now, but I’d like to move on after that and focus more on the art and technique of making images. I have a bunch of different series planned exploring all aspects of visual storytelling, I just have to stop procrastinating and start recording! I feel like there aren’t really any truly bad cameras today and regardless of what format we use we can create compelling and evocative work. I think you made a great choice with the Oly Pro lenses, they are fast, weather sealed and they have that focus clutch! The GH5II fixed the gh5’s only real flaw with it’s 10bit internal 60p. I would be happy using my GH5 for video for more years to come, I still have it!
Thank you! I have a bunch of new cameras now, a Sony A7SIII for vidro, A7RII for photos, A7R modified for infrared, and I picked up a Fuji X100V for street shooting and a Leica film camera. No regrets in switching so far.
Do I see a canon xm2 in the background there sir…? I had one of those for my skating videos, loved it. Currently STILL on the GH4 and going strong! Great video, weirdly emotional
Good eye! Yes, that is my Canon GL2(North American version of XM2). I used mine to make more skateboarding videos than I can count. Mine still has the fisheye mounted on it! The GH4 is legendary, use it as long as you can. Cheers
Hi. Do you use standard picture profile or color grade in post? If yes, can you give some hints? I getting my g80 and need some info regarding grading for Panasonic. Thanks.
Lol. Or you could just continue using your equipment, focus on creative output, and stop giving into consumerism which tells us we need the greatest and newest.
I was excited to hear about the 30mm macro lens and all of a sudden… Don’t buy it! 😂😂 I had it as a gift from my mother in law, in don’t blame her! She didn’t know 😅
Sony is a safe choice right now. I use Nikon Cameras (apsc and FF Z), and MFT (Oly and Lumix). I don't think it's a good time to switch systems, because I think we'll see some great new mft Cameras in 2022. Yes, the news hasn't been encouraging in recent years, but like everything else these days, I see a lot of hype and a lot of Fakenews. I believe we will see new sensors and new AI and AF technologies. I choose the equipment I will use according to the work, and I think they all have strengths and weaknesses. But it is exactly because of this experience in multiple systems that I can say: the mft system is the most fun and supplies 90% of my needs 90% of the time. If I could make a suggestion, it would be this: don't sell all your lenses yet. I think it's quite possible that you'll come back to the mft system soon. Yes, Sony's are excellent, but so are Nikon Z's, but in my case they're rarely used and only for specific situations. FF Cameras are small these days, but lenses will always be bigger. Much is said about the limitations of smaller sensors, but few talk about the many qualities. What was missing was technological development on the MFT front, but I believe that will change soon. If it doesn't change in 2022, then I'll just keep Nikon Z.
I went Sony because they make the sensors for Nikon, Lumix, Olympus, Fuji etc.. so I thought I would just go straight to the source. I picked up a set of Sony primes and they are actually smaller than I expected and the Tamron f2.8 zooms are decently small and light as well. As long as my Sony stuff gets me through the next 5 years I will be happy, I don’t plan on making any changes until then. Switching systems is such a pain!
How strange as I have just sold my 2 Sony full frame cameras and now I shoot on several different Sony apsc cameras, two Olympus MFT, the newest one being 9 years old. I couldn't get on with the surgically clean full frame images that were so sharp I could shave with them. I use a semi pro 4k Sony video camera for video and have several insta360 cameras for other images and video. Total cost around $2,500, Would I go full frame again? NO!
So, I'm guessing you went FF?? Whatever you choose, enjoy. If I were a younger man with deep pockets, I might have done it as well. Plus, I'm not a pro, I just like capturing nice images, at least nice to me. So, M4/3 is fine for me.
Thanks! Yes, I went full frame. I would have stuck with MFT if the cameras kept advancing but it stagnated for too long. You can’t really go wrong with any format these days, they are all good tools to tell visual stories.
There is a G9MK2 days... But still, the print resolution is nothing more than 300 dpi... even for the largest prints.... The bigger the prints, the less resolution is needed...
Great. I’ve subscribed. Will look forward to see whether the switch pays off. I’m just a hobbyist with g9 so would love to see if you find any other benefits along the way.
@@Localtraveler2376 I noticed the difference on the first job, I did several 8 foot prints and the quality was impeccable. On smaller prints it would be impossible to tell what camera was used. I also find my video is better on the full frame camera, but the difference is not as big as it is with photos.
Not sure I agree with the logic - noone stands 2 feet away from an 8 ft print for normal viewing - by the time you take up a normal viewing distance it's again impossible tell the difference. You can look at a 3 1/2 ft print from an inch away and you won't be able to tell the difference between a good MFT and a FF camera. Skip to 9:15 on this example for proof ruclips.net/video/OGn3yPl59ZM/видео.html
Hello, I'm currently shooting with Canon EOS 100D and EOS 250D (both APSC) with a few lenses (24, 40, 50, 18-55). I'm interested to have a new camera without low-pass filter and a Leica lense. So, I'm wondering if I could change my gear with a Lumix GX9 and a 15mm 1.7, shall I win in sharpness ? in image quality ? What is your opinion ? Chris
Sorry for the slow reply Chris! I would move up to a full frame Canon camera since you already own some lenses for that system. I’d probably go with an R or an RP, but if you do a lot of video an R6 or R5 would be better for that, but much more expensive.
So EXACTLY WHY are you abandoning MFT format. (Are you going to work for a billboard company)? Which doesn't make sense since large image printing usually has an intermediary step for grand murals, therefore images from MFT are suitable. So I'm curious, why?
Larger, higher resolution images for printing and also to achieve the large format look for filmmaking. There’s no denying full frame is superior. It is larger and more expensive than MFT, but worth the trade off. There’s also the fact that MFT is basically a dead format at this point.
From the sample images you post of your past work, I'm not sure on my 65" TV 4K screen that if you post large format or MFT images, I, (or you), would be able to tell me what images came from what camera. Nikon D810 owner, FUJI XT-1, LUMIX GF1, GX-1 and DC FZ200 owner .. Thanks for your reply! 🫠
Definitely can’t tell on a screen. I have done some very large prints for clients, and the full frame did make a difference. Medium format would have been even better. That Nikon you have has an incredible sensor, about as good as it gets.
The first three minutes of this video disproves the need to even move to another system. You talk about 5 ft prints in the hospital lobby, and pro results on video work. If you need a 60mp camera for some reason, why not just buy one and keep the bulk of your micro4/3 gear? I myself shoot FF and m4/3. If you’re just bored, or whatever, that’s fine, just say so. This video really made no sense, sorry.
I just did a 16 foot print for the lobby of a $120M skyscraper, and a few other 8 foot prints for the lounges. When you’re doing high end jobs for high end clients you want to deliver the best quality that you can. There are lots of other advantages to bigger sensors than resolution, like dynamic range, tonality, low light etc. This video may not have made sense to you, hopefully that helps you better understand. M43 will never match the output of a larger sensor, whether you need more than M43 or not is up to you and your work. Personally I was ready to level up.
@@Robservatory print size is not impressive, iPhone billboards are 30ft across. It’s all about viewing distance, subject matter, and resizing software. You’re the third “Lumix ambassador” I’ve seen who suddenly NEEDS and “upgrade” to Sony… after years of telling everyone how great micro4/3 is. Hilarious. I guess Sony pays better.🤷🏼♂️
I’ve never met anyone from Sony or received gear or money from them. I still have nothing but love for Lumix, it is a great system that treated me well. I just wanted a system that would grow with me into the future and MFT has stagnated for years, to the point that people think it’s dead. I hope it continues for a long time to come. For print size, I argue against the viewing distance argument. You can’t get up close to a bilboard, so it looks fine, but you can walk right up to one of my large prints and inspect the details, and people do all the time. Especially cityscapes and shots with a lot of small details, and you can absolutely see the difference clearly between formats. Bigger is always better when doing prints.
@@Robservatory I don’t see the stagnation you’re talking about. Olympus put out the EM1mkiii with high res mode, star AF, and 7 stops of stabilization. Panasonic had the GH5ii, and now we have the OM1 and GH6, plus a few new lenses. I really don’t care what you shoot, I hope you enjoy your new gear. I just thought it was weird how seemingly every Lumix ambassador on RUclips drops them and goes to Sony, all in the last 6 months… not Canon, not Nikon, not Fuji… odd. I played with the Sony GM 24-70 f2.8 in the store, you’d have to pay me to carry that thing around all day, and then pay my chiropractor bills too. Physics is a bitch.
I stated it clearly. I needed a bigger format because my images were being purchased for extremely large prints being displayed in building lobbies and public spaces.
I recently sold off all Sony pro gear and fully into M43 - love it!
Im doing the same thing. Sony has priced themselves out of their own market. If they are trying to take a stab at Leica for their pricing, they better get with Leica and learn how Leica does their customer service. Switching MFT this weekend.
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Crazy. Sony has bigger sensors, low light capable, real tracking focus for video. Panny is a phone-quality compared to Sony
Same here I switched over from Canon, the new RF way over priced.
@@maxkitaev3524 you really have no idea man 🤣
Great summary of Lumix m43 lenses, thanks
It's pretty sad leaving a system, I've been going in the opposite direction down to micro 4 thirds. I'm mainly a stills photographer but it's a shame I've only just come across your channel.
We get so attached to our gear, especially when it is doing its job and letting us enjoy shooting. There is a lot love about micro four thirds, enjoy the lighter bag!
You just convinced me to stick with my M43 setup. I have an S1 that I love, but I just packed my GH5 and a bunch of lenses into a backpack that would have just given me enough room for my S1 and a 24-70 and some batteries. And I just feel like I am an M43 user in my soul. Which is why I got a little choked up at the end of this video. And also why I need to so some soul searching about why a video about a camera system got me choked up.
I think out cameras become an extension of ourselves, so we can’t help becoming both physically and emotionally attached to them. I am trying to look at my gear as merely tools, but they are much more than that.
These days there has been drastic improvements though, like an A7C with the Tamron 35-150 f2-f2.8. No real equivalent lenses in the MFT world.
Like some others here, I left m43 and then returned. Didnt realize how truly great the system was until I got out of it.
I kept a cheap full-frame body, Canon6D to use where necessary (primarily indoors poor lighting) and use m43 for most other purposes.
Wildlife and landscape are where price/performance of m43 is unmatched IMO, especially with the advent of AI based noise reduction like DeepPrime
I've tried to leave M43 several times however the features and cameras keep me from completely getting out.
Impossible to beat the features, both Lumix and Olympus pack a ton of great tech into their cameras.
Best summary of my situation :)
+1. maybe ill get s5 as B cam for some head shots wide angle separation...
You are a talented photographer, and this was a very well done, objective video. For the work you do, I understand the switch to Sony, but eventually, I suspect you will be back in the m4/3's camp -- it may not happen until your body starts lobbying for lighter, smaller gear. For me, I used 4/3's sensors for all of my digital professional work (wedding, portraits, and corporate events) since the old Olympus E-20 until about a year ago (E-M1 Mkll) when I decided to 'hang up my hat' and start shooting for myself. Wildlife/Birds, Scenic, Nature, and Macro are the areas I enjoy. I now have the Olympus E-M1X, as well as a couple E-M1 Mk1's, and I can say that the long telephoto realm is where Micro Four Thirds will continue to shine -- due to size, weight, and cost of other systems. Enjoy your new Sony gear -- it's impressive stuff.
Thanks very much for the kind words! My body already prefers the smaller, lighter gear! I will definitely be back to a smaller system at some point, I have been enjoying shooting film on my Olympus 35SP rangefinder a lot lately, it has a fixed lens, so I don’t bring anything but the camera. It is pretty liberating. I totally agree about the long end, there is nothing in full frame that can compare to MFT’s reach. I haven’t picked up a telephoto lens yet, it is the only piece I haven’t replaced yet. Looking forward to what Panasonic and OM do in the new year, who knows, maybe they will lure me back!
i always remember when i bought my first GH4 back in 2015. it was a beast back then, and i really enjoyed using it. Without that camera, i wouldn't able to make income from wedding and other projects. because of that, I'm still sticking on MFT with GH6 as my recent equipment for years to come.
I am sure it will serve you even better than the GH4 did. You cant find a more well rounded mirrorless camera or one with the extensive video features that Lumix packed into the GH6. The 5 and 5S were also beast status.
I have a GH4, one of my twins has a GH4, and the other twin has a GH5. We use the 12-35, the 35-100, and I use the 30mm macro for portraits, and to digitize film. It has not been a problem to copy film with it, despite the roughly 2" distance from lens to film. I use the EFH (Essential Film Holder), which does not require much working room between camera and itself. The 30mm has also been great for closeups in filmmaking, especially when working a foot or more from the camera, down to an inch. Despite all the new and wonderful full frame gear out there, I just can't see the expense paying off for what we do. Now, if sports and landscape work were my specialties, that might be a different story.
(one year later)I considered $ony. Then I added the A7rIV plus the 24-70 and the 70-200... newest version and soon realized $ony needs to be a light years ahead of my Olympus gear or its a no launch for me. The Rocket is still on the pad :-) Still love the way my G9 marries so well to the Olympus lenses, as well. Great walk down memory lane :)
I would advise keeping the extra special lenses. I am someone who went from Panasonic MFT to Canon several years ago but a year ago I sold off much of my Canon gear and went back to MFT, and while I bought several new lenses but I was so glad I had those old Pana-Leica lenses.
Why go back? Well, in many ways MFT is the Bolex of today. I am old enough to have started in film back in 1962. Back then Indioe filmmakers had a love/hate relationship with Bolex, most having started and learned their craft on low budget Bolex-made films. Ultimately their is something special about the smaller system that gives so much because there is magic in working within constraints so going back to the smaller format.
BTW, agreed, the Leica 12mm f1.4 has much of the same Leica quality as the Noct. The Oly 100-400 is a better choice than the Lumix version because it takes teleconverters and as a result is a brilliant macro lens. I love that Laowa 7.5 f2. I use it a lot. For a fisheye I love the Oly 1.8. Another Oly that is brilliant is the 60 macro, much better than the 30 macro from either brand.
I got the G9 but are planning to get the GH5 M2 and the set of Sirui anamorphics.
Sell the 100-300 and 14-140, but keep the Leicas and the 2.8 zooms. There will come a time when you will be glad you kept them. The feature sets and perfect size of Lumix cameras means it is almost inevitable that you will be tempted back into the system. For all its flaws, there is simply something likeable about their cameras.
I think you made an amazing comparison between Bolex and MFT, that is exactly correct! I used to joke, otr maybe half joke that I wanted my Nocticron buried with me when I go. I have actually sold all the Leica’s and the zooms now, was sad to part with them, but excited about a new system after so many years. My new Sony cameras are the same size as my old MFT cams and the prime lenses are very small and light. I think they have found the best balance between size and quality. Sadly no format packs as much functionality into their cameras as Lumix does, they are extremely intuitive and have the best menus as well. Hopefully MFT sticks around for a long time!
@@Robservatory and how big are your equivalent aperture Sony lenses? About 3x the size, weight, and price. The advantage of m4/3 was never the body size.
I use a set of Sony F/1.8 primes, they are actually pretty small and light! There are no equivalent aperture lenses available on M43 though, at least in depth of field terms. You would need F/0.9 lenses to match that. I also use Tamron F/2.8 zooms which are all compact, affordable and amazing quality. I am doing it purely for image quality purposes in photo and video, and for work. I don’t want a light bag to shoot birds on Sundays. I shoot a Leica or a Fuji when I want to travel light.
@@Robservatory there actually are f0.95 lenses for mft by Voigtlander. And not everyone shooting MFT is “shooting birds on Sundays”, as you yourself demonstrated in this video.
I do like the Voightlanders, I have a 35mm f1.2 that is a real gem. I wish I had tried the Nokton set for MFT, I know I would have loved them.
Those GH4 stills were incredible. What in the WORLD! Thanks for showing what is possible. Obviously you have a lot of experience but still nice to know what's possible
Very much appreciated, thank you!
Thanks sharing your thoughts on Panasonic M43 bodies and lens. I really enjoyed this video, thanks for sharing.
I am a hobbyist and shoot Canon and M43. Own the GX8 and I love it!
I do all my professional photos on full frame DSLR but for days out and social life I use my versatile M43 cameras.
Lol, i swear after the release of the GH6 in (2022) all peoples will fall in Love with the MFT system!! I smell that.
We’ll see! I am pretty happy with my A7SIII, I don’t see the GH6 beating it.
As Arnie once said! I use FF and M43 for differing situations btw. At the end of the day it’s the photographer not the camera that finds the great images and you definitely have talent. 👏📸
Thanks, Andrew! I couldn’t agree more, photographers make pictures not cameras. Cheers
Ah yes that's with everything, gear doesn't really matter, it's the idea, technique & know-how that makes the image, knowledge of the gear used if it's very limited is also required to get the best from it, if you know it's limitations and what it does well you got to work in front of the lens to get the desired result. Same as with music.. so many musicians obsess over gear but in the end albums have been recorded with all types of different gear & media throughout the ages and a great player can make any instrument sound good or can make music with things that aren't even instruments.., just like a good producer can get a track down no matter what the tools are.
Use M43, FF, and APS depending on the situation.
Enjoyed your video, and agreed very much with your thoughts. I have a G9 and a G90 and love the MFT system. It meets my needs. I have the 42.5 Nocticron and although I don't use it a lot it is magical! Like you, my most used lens is the 14-140 and if I could only have one lens it would be that one. Such a great range for general/travel/street photography. 👍 I also have the 7-14 and the 100-400, so have 7-400 covered for good light/outdoor scenarios and I have the Pana Leica primes (as well as Laowa 10mm) for low light/ faster aperture situations.
The G9 is such a brilliant value for money hybrid camera. I know you like the GH5, but I'd definitely recommend the G9. 😊
Thanks! You have an almost perfect gear bag! You just need to swap the 7-14mm with the 8-18mm so you can use filters. I totally agree about the G9. The G9 punches way above its weight and is probably the best value camera money can buy. I felt pain every time I saw the G9 get firmware updates and my GH5 got left in the dust.
@@Robservatory thanks. I do use filters with my 7-14! I bought an adapter that allows me to use screw on filters and I really like the 7-14, so never really been tempted to swap it for the 8-18. I think the 7-14 matches better with my 14-140 anyway and I get that slightly wider 7mm. 🙂
I've been shooting the G9 and 100-400mm for about a year now and I'm finding it more capable than many told me it would be. Given the complexity of modern cameras I think it unlikely most photographers can really get to know a system in less than six months. You have some really nice images and I"m glad you took the time to give MFT a little shout-out. Can you tell us what system you will be trying next?
Thank you! I have tried a few systems now, Sony, Fuji, Leica and a couple others. I like Sony the best because of its high quality images, especially video. Fuji makes the prettiest still photos, and Leica is luxury all the way. I am doing a huge purge and will keep one Sony body and a couple of lenses. Unfortunately I’ve gotten into astrophotography and need money for telescopes 😂
Your G9 and 100-400mm is a perfect combo, no other system has that reach, in that size, at that price.
I just bought a Panasonic S5.. was using a Sony a7rii. So far, I don't regret the switch
Great camera!
Thanks for sharing! I have never watched your videos before but you make amazing pictures in my opinion. Love those skateboarding clips too. Ciao from Portugal. Jan.
Some wonderful images and honest reviews of the gear. Hope you enjoy whatever you switch to.
Thanks Richard! I am using Sony mostly now, but still shoot a lot of film on Leica and Fuji cams as well :)
This video is something else, been using Lumix gear for almost 2 years now, and I LOVE my Lumix cameras (G9 and GX85) I think they are the best hybrid affordable system (debating on getting another G9) but lately I've been debating if to move to FF (canon) for photos (video would be still on my Lumix cameras), I feel you could get faster and cheaper lenses for FF than on MFT and for the ISO performance too, I'm debating alot really, and watching this video makes me sort of sad for thinking that I'm not using my gear properly, or not appreciating what I have, so thanks for this eye opener, your shots look AMAZING really ! like between the best I've seen on any sensor and systems, but honestly now I don't know what to think or to do, I would like to know your input on my comment, really appreciate this video and it's strange but I feel sad that someone SO talented is leaving a system I love, but wish you the best on your career and work, and hope that you come back for the GH6 ;)
Sorry for the slow reply Andy! Just had a baby and things have been a wild ride. You're in the same boat that I was and it is indeed a tough decision to make. I originally was going to buy a Canon for photos and stick with MFT for video, I really didn't feel like I needed too much of an upgrade from the GH5 in the video department. I ended up going Sony because I got an amazing deal on an A7RII. Sony's bodies and lenses are smaller than Canon, the bodies are actually smaller and lighter than my GH5! I think you are right about the G9, there is no other camera that provides the same value, it is really amazing. I was always a bit mad that the G9 gets firmware updates continually making it better and better and there was nothing for my GH5. At the end of the day you have to ask yourself if you are hitting the limits of your current system. I felt like I was and decided to go back to full frame and the extra dynamic range and bit depth is 100% impactful for me, I could see it on my first day shooting photos. I also notice the benefits of the 42mp sensor vs the GH5's 20mp, my prints look better and I have more options for cropping now. I will definitely be getting an even higher res camera in the future. I think if you are considering going full frame then you are probably looking to step up your quality a bit and that is certainly the way to do it. There are a lot of options in FF nowadays, maybe look at something from Lumix? The S5 is pretty affordable, and I really like their series of F/1.8 prime lenses, they are affordable and are all built at the same size, so they would be amazing for video as well. A Lumix camera would match with your G9 as a second camera nicely.
@@Robservatory no problem, appreciate the time you took to replay, congrats on the baby 🎉 hope everything goes well 💪🏻 and yes everything you said basically explains my case, and btw I already bought a system, haven’t received it yet but got an amazing deal on it, a Canon RP and a 50mm 1.8 to test it out, see how I feel with the system and if I like it, I’ll invest in something better in the future.
The reason I didn’t went with Lumix for FF is that, they’re AWESOME cameras, and I know without a doubt that I would love it, mostly for video, so I wanted to give myself a chance to try some other brand, but we’ll see, If I don’t like it, I could always sell it and try some other FF brand, but anyways, thanks again for taking your time to answer me 🙏🏻
Yes, the 14-140mm lens is my most used lens too mainly for taking sunsets for a few years now.
Next is the 100-400mm Leica Zoom for sport and wildlife.
These on a G9 and lately a GX9. So sad the latter doesn't have a flip screen. I thought Panasonic knew we all like flippy screens!
I quit EOS / EF early this year and jump into M43, really happy with that sizes and weight. Anyway, I like your South China FC uniform.
Thanks! My favourite uniform.
Really enjoyed the video and especially the recommendations and samples. You take beautiful pictures. Trying to keep dual systems with Canon and MFT. Actually expanding the MFT because of age and the desire to travel lighter as my old EF lens are just too heavy.
Thanks, Gary! I looked at going Canon as I still shoot film as well and thought it would be nice to use EF lenses for film, digital photo, and video, but they are definitely too big and are getting a bit dated on the new mirrorless bodies. The RF mount lenses are amazing, but outside of what I wanted to spend. Pretty happy with the Sony gear so far, the size, weight and price are nicely balanced. I have been going out with just one prime lens at a time lately and enjoying not carrying a bag at all. Hopefully travel will be possible again soon, regardless of system I always bring way to much gear wherever I go haha!
Awesome lens/ and 4/3rds cameras and more!! What gear do you use now?? Thanks!!!!
I’m using mostly Sony now. I bought and sold some Leicas and Fujifilm. Sony has been amazing, but expensive.
Thanks so much!! Your explanations about your experiences and nuances btw. the various lens choices is SO Informative!! I will remain a big fan of yours!!
I'm getting the om-1
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nice video, but can't agree regarding the Panasonic 100-300mm: the picture quality of the Pana 100-300mm is very good, whereas the Leica 100-400mm is even better, as you would expect for about triple the price. And don't forget the weight difference, the Leica is nearly double the weight. Sure, the plastic body of the Pana 100-300mm may not feel as premium as the metal body of the Leica, but it makes the lens lightweight and more shock-resistant when dropping the lens. Lastly, it's not true that the Leica 100-400mm is faster (F4.0-6.3). Actually at 300mm the Pana 100-300mm is slightly faster (F5.6) than the Leica 100-400mm (F5.7). If you get the newer Panasonic 100-300mm II it even comes with weather-sealing. So if you can't afford the premium price for the premium Leica lens, the Panasonic 100-300mm (II) is a great option.
You have some really beautiful photos. I was amazed at the night shots with the Lumix camera considering folks are always saying MFT is no good in low light. Were they handheld or on tripod. Thanks p.s. I loved the heartfelt goodbye to your "children". Very nice touch. :)
Thanks very much! The night shots were all tripod long exposures. I did find micro four thirds to be somewhat bad in lowlight. I do a lot of night street photography now and prefer my Fuji APSC camera even over my full frame cameras, so it's not all about sensor size. It really depends on the noise the sensor produces at high ISO.
@@Robservatory thanks for your reply. I do love Fuji, but wasn't sure if APSC was enough of a jump from MFT ro make it worthwhile adding/changing. I have relatively small investment in mft lenses and also legacy Nikkor manual lenses when desired that I've had since 80's. Funny they get more use now with my G9 than ever before.
So awesome to hear about your Skateboarding roots. Subscribed😃.
I just bought an gh5 from eBay and use it with a speedbooster and a 8mm fisheye. Footage looks awesome so far.
Cheers from Germany
Wow, thanks!!! This is a great opinion!!! Any video about the experience and feelings with your new system??? 👍🏼😎
Love to hear how you got on and if the change was really worth it.
Yes, I feel the change has been worth it. I felt that MFT was stagnating and I was right, the GH6 is a great camera, but it wasn't enough to keep me in the format. I'm on mostly a Sony system now, but also shoot a Fuji and a Leica and I much prefer the photos and videos I'm making with those systems to my older Panasonic gear. No regrets so far!
Just arrived to MFT. Love it.
Still have my Nikon gear, but the MFT gear (Olympus) is more portable, less expensive, and fun.
It's totally a Canadian thing lol (and I remember them too so I'm old as well). Noticed some Vancouver subjects so your send off was my arrival to micro four thirds. If you have anything left let me know. I hope it's all going well with Sony or wherever you went! I jumped into photography with a OEM DE1 so will look out for some of those Lumix lenses, wish me luck!
Nice to hear your thoughts and experiences. I do both videos and photography. For me, the image quality I get out of my Blackmagic Pocket 4K and ZCam E2 M4 rivals what I got when I rented Arri Classics. There is just so much flexibility hence more bang for buck especially with the so many great lens options. It's really a matter of personal preference!
I love the 30 macro because I love taking pictures of cats - the cats I keep they often rush toward me and it's useful to have a shorter focus length. For the stray cats I use tele.
Fun fact Peter Howitt was the cool older brother (sort of Fonz like) in an 80s UK sitcom called Bread.
Love the 12-35 and 35-100 f2.8 lenses. The 12-60 Leica is a good carry around lens. The bodies I use are the G9 and GX85. The one thing I miss on the 85 is an audio in jack. Why disable the body this way? Light and small is what I like.
Also a Fuji user. Twice the sensor size without twice the weight. Love the film sims. Also like the dials. I don’t see the need for FF for my street photography.
The sad truth is buying more expensive gear won’t make my image better. That is where more education and experience comes in. Hope your new system provides you the benefits you desire.
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I picked up a Fuji this year, really love that camera. APSC may be the sweet spot indeed!
@@Robservatory No doubt Fuji is a good choice. They’ve come out with some very nice new bodies I’m not buying. What I have is more than sufficient for my needs and skill level. For my needs M43:& APSC are fine. For most people M43 or APSC is fine. I think some people are gear shamed into full frame. I’m happy with my crop sensor gear and that is all that matters. PS: the Panasonic 15mm lens is dandy for street photography.
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OK, I am a m43rds shooter--Olympus to be precise--and I just found your channel. Too bad really, since it appears that this will be your last m43rds video? Your photos look great, by the way. I hope you have success with whatever system you're moving into as well. Cameras are just tools, but the feel of every tool is different, and sometimes, one will just fit the user right. I run two systems now, Olympus and Canon. One is m43rds, and one is 35mm (full-frame). For everyday photography, I prefer using my Olympus gear, and to be honest, I think that I tend to get better photos from the smaller format overall, though not exclusively. Again, comfort, and familiarity should not be underestimated. Anyway, I enjoyed your video. Good luck with your future endevours.
Many thanks for the thoughtful reply! I agree that cameras are just tools, but they are also an extension of ourselves in many ways. I still miss my GX8, that tiltable evf and articulating lcd make it so useable. I have decided to not be brand specific moving forward, I am open to shooting on anything. I have about 20 cameras covering almost all brands at this point. I still shoot film as well, so I am a bit overloaded with gear, as well as genres and subject matter haha! I’m not certain if I will make more videos focusing on MFT gear in the future, but I definitely will be making loads about photography, filmmaking, printing, and audio. Best wishes to you as well!
What did you switch to? How do you feel about it a couple years later? I've been a Nikon shooter for about a decade, started with D5100, then D7200, D750 and now Z6ii. But thinking about getting something smaller for travel...
I switched to Sony and have no regrets at all. In the years since I have branched out and these days I mostly shoot a Fuji X100V or my trusty Leica M4P film camera. I love the X100V and bring it with me on all my travels except where I might do astrophotography or lots of landscape work, in those cases I pack a big bag.
I am sure all the photographer around the world one day will be held micro 4/3 tail very soon you are one of those.You note it down in your mind. Sony, canon and all other brand will be tremendously manufactured micro 4/3 camera in future 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
No, not going to happen. Micro Four Thirds will last as long as Sony advances MFT sensors. All the advantages of MFT have pretty much been surpassed by full frame. In the future you will use your phone or a full frame, everything in the middle will die off.
@@Robservatory the advantage of micro4/3 *is the smaller sensor size* because it can use much smaller lenses. You can’t change that reality. And phones don’t have telephoto lenses, good battery life, or operational speed, so no they’re not replacing anything other than the cheap point and shoots that every non photographer used to own.
Hi,
Thanks for the video and a very nice MFT system analysis. And I am actually very thankfull to people like you,leaving MFT system for FF like Sony A1 or Canon R5, We have at least here in Switzerland a huge amount of GH5,OM even BMPCC4K for half the price or even less. Even the lens are really cheap to get. So big thanks to leaver it permitted me coming from professional audio recording to expend my services and start multicam recording of concerts with Pana GH5,5s and BMPCC4K.
And for me the crop is great because I can have almost middle Telefoto with prime 50mm on GH4,GH5 because my subject are always far away
I found for my purpose MFT much more suited for vs FF.
So big thanks for people leaving MFT it makes used lenses and body even cheaper and for people starting it is great news...about FF I don't deny the advantages but for my special needs it is too expensive imho...I hope maybe Blackmagic come out with 8K MFT chip (if you look at the Ursa mini 12k it is probably doable) so it would put life again in the system...because OM and Panasonic have problems to retain people in the system...and are loosing each day people to FF...
Greatings from Biel cold and foggy here
I think MFT is perfect for your needs. The crop factor works so well for telephoto shooting like events and wildlife. I think the GH5 still has a lot of life for video production. I wanted to stay with the format but it seems to be on its way out and I need a system that will continue well into the future, especially on the photography side where MFT is not as strong.
Congrats for you baby enjoy,it is fantastic got 3 kids so it is challenging but like I use to say no risk no fun...(I found the answer of my questions in the commentary ) superb image quality and video Bravo loved it...and bravo for Sony A7rii it was that or A1 I would have bet. I would have picked,maybe R5C...but for Foto not appropriated...
@@filipmichalsaffray441 Thank you Filip! Being a father is definitely challenging so far, I haven't slept in a month haha! Yes, I went with an A7Rii, A7Siii, and an origial A7R which I converted to infrared. Enjoying the new gear so far. I will post a new video about the A7Rii with lots of photos today or tomorrow :)
@@Robservatory Hi great choice...Sony full frame are really great...I kind of dream of the A7iv with the 4k oversampled from 7k and 35Mpixel for Foto are really great vs R Sony Line still not enough Resolution for big print but for me and my video use perfect.
By the way you recommanded Alex Lut for GH5,5s I use mostly leeming lut or ACEScct Pipeline and manual grade in Resolve.
But I am interested for Alex Lut for camera matching (leeming is fine but ETTR is always tricky with skin tones)
is Alex so good and exposing in low light is ok or tricky? Maybe you have some advice or maybe did you try filmconvert as well?
Hope you and your family are fine and I will look at your channel for new videos about the new Sony caméras...
Yours
Fil
Loved watching this, I understand you have to move forward also.
Thanks for at least praising the gx8, I have one and don't understand all the negative reviews (maybe they are not using it properly?)
I personally just like photography as a hobby but none the less find the micro four thirds gear more than adequate. I think a lot of people are just after the next best thing, and then believe the last model or lens is no good anymore.... a lot of marketing nonsense.
Anyhoo great inspiring video and all the best for your future👍
Thanks Robert! Man I loved my GX8, would still be using it now if it weren’t for me doing a lot more print work. I agree there are way too many people pushing new gear and not new skills and experiences.
Best Regards,
Rob
yeah. I still have the gx8. Still love it.
Right on!
Those photos at 4:00 is so good
Thanks so much!
My history with M43 is short, my first camera was GH4 year ago. Today I have GH5 and 14-140 you mentioned. But I don't know if my skill are lacking. Sure yes, must have. Watching other peoples photos I'm 100% sure about this. My problems are, skills and light. I love when its dark or dim. So really hurts me that i don't know how to use my camera. Every photo, its not sharp, it's not bright. Its painful and depressing. More and more I want to switch to full frame. But seeing your photos gives me hope but in same time leaves me with more questions, how do you do so incredible work. I need to find answers on my own. Also, photos and film are my hobby so there learning curve is much greater than professionals who are living from photos and films. Thank you, list of lenses that are great to use on lumix cameras!
use a tripod and the cheap adobe photoshop elements to denoise and defog etc
It's kinda like the Corvette. Cheverelete had done all they could do to make the performance of the Vette as good as a front mounted engine could do, but at the end of the day they made the choice to move the engine to a better performing location. Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do. MFT is a fantastic medium, but we all know it's about 80% of what a full frame can achieve. I am actually just getting into MFT's becuase for me lightweight and small is key. I move around a lot, lots' of run & gun shooting at events. But, for my product photo's it's all FF.
Curious, If you think the Lumix G9 paired with the Nocticron 45.2 and/or the Leica 12mm/1.4 would suffice for your product photo work…
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😎 I literally have all the µ4/3 cameras you had. Recently picked up the GH5II over the E-M1X, it being the true video version of a G9. However, went the M.Zuiko Pro route in regards with glass. I chose their 45mm/1.2 over the Nocticron due to the weather-sealing. It’s a shame I am only discovering your work now. I only really seek out professionals using µ4/3. I find the talent more interesting, and ironically more creative. I believe the format fosters inherently more imagination by nature.
I sincerely hope you don’t morph into one of those guys that continually rant about “that FF look.” I personally find it nauseating as it is overrated. Talent is not in the format, it is in the person behind the sensor. Format is technically irrelevant…
Good luck on your future endeavours, I think the µ4/3 community is losing one it’s more creative.perspectives…
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I fully agree about the MFT format fostering creativity. In my case it gave me access to tools that were the right mix of size, price and quality to allow me to shoot photos and videos full time. I’m not going to morph into a full framer or a gear reviewer/marketer. I just upgraded all my gear so I am doing some gear centric content now, but I’d like to move on after that and focus more on the art and technique of making images. I have a bunch of different series planned exploring all aspects of visual storytelling, I just have to stop procrastinating and start recording! I feel like there aren’t really any truly bad cameras today and regardless of what format we use we can create compelling and evocative work. I think you made a great choice with the Oly Pro lenses, they are fast, weather sealed and they have that focus clutch! The GH5II fixed the gh5’s only real flaw with it’s 10bit internal 60p. I would be happy using my GH5 for video for more years to come, I still have it!
I'll keep shooting (Stills) with my GH4. The current offers don't excite me and will increase my debts but not my skills. Have fun in Sony Land.
Good point! Better to spend time making pictures than spend money on cameras.
I just got to the system.
Enjoy it, it is a great system!
Great video!!! Awesome shots especially the silhouettes in the beginning. Out of curiosity which camera have you upgraded to?
Thank you! I have a bunch of new cameras now, a Sony A7SIII for vidro, A7RII for photos, A7R modified for infrared, and I picked up a Fuji X100V for street shooting and a Leica film camera. No regrets in switching so far.
@@Robservatory cool!!!
Just one word: Marvelous!
Wasn't expecting to see a SCAA jersey!
My favourite jersey, it was very hard to find!
Do I see a canon xm2 in the background there sir…? I had one of those for my skating videos, loved it. Currently STILL on the GH4 and going strong! Great video, weirdly emotional
Good eye! Yes, that is my Canon GL2(North American version of XM2). I used mine to make more skateboarding videos than I can count. Mine still has the fisheye mounted on it! The GH4 is legendary, use it as long as you can. Cheers
I remember Hal Johnson and Joanne McCleod!
this was awesome to watch. thanks for this!
Hi. Do you use standard picture profile or color grade in post? If yes, can you give some hints? I getting my g80 and need some info regarding grading for Panasonic. Thanks.
Lol. Or you could just continue using your equipment, focus on creative output, and stop giving into consumerism which tells us we need the greatest and newest.
Cool video, I got gx85 myself as my first camera, it's amazing, especially considering its price. And good luck to you with your new gear 👍
Thanks! The GX85 is great bang for the buck, such an awesome little camera!
I enjoyed the gx85 more then the gx9 the controls on the gx85 are pretty amazing. I might pick up another one.
I was excited to hear about the 30mm macro lens and all of a sudden… Don’t buy it! 😂😂
I had it as a gift from my mother in law, in don’t blame her! She didn’t know 😅
Thanks!
Sir I just got into photography.....how to start? I hv bought lumix g7 as per my budget, and what gears needed for beginners?
Did you ever sell your 12mm-32mm pancake zoom? I may be interested.
Yes, sold everything already.
Really well done
10:14 the images say 35-100, was it suppsed to be 100-300?
Yes, that is correct 👍🏻
Sony is a safe choice right now. I use Nikon Cameras (apsc and FF Z), and MFT (Oly and Lumix). I don't think it's a good time to switch systems, because I think we'll see some great new mft Cameras in 2022. Yes, the news hasn't been encouraging in recent years, but like everything else these days, I see a lot of hype and a lot of Fakenews. I believe we will see new sensors and new AI and AF technologies. I choose the equipment I will use according to the work, and I think they all have strengths and weaknesses. But it is exactly because of this experience in multiple systems that I can say: the mft system is the most fun and supplies 90% of my needs 90% of the time. If I could make a suggestion, it would be this: don't sell all your lenses yet. I think it's quite possible that you'll come back to the mft system soon. Yes, Sony's are excellent, but so are Nikon Z's, but in my case they're rarely used and only for specific situations. FF Cameras are small these days, but lenses will always be bigger. Much is said about the limitations of smaller sensors, but few talk about the many qualities. What was missing was technological development on the MFT front, but I believe that will change soon. If it doesn't change in 2022, then I'll just keep Nikon Z.
I went Sony because they make the sensors for Nikon, Lumix, Olympus, Fuji etc.. so I thought I would just go straight to the source. I picked up a set of Sony primes and they are actually smaller than I expected and the Tamron f2.8 zooms are decently small and light as well. As long as my Sony stuff gets me through the next 5 years I will be happy, I don’t plan on making any changes until then. Switching systems is such a pain!
How strange as I have just sold my 2 Sony full frame cameras and now I shoot on several different Sony apsc cameras, two Olympus MFT, the newest one being 9 years old. I couldn't get on with the surgically clean full frame images that were so sharp I could shave with them. I use a semi pro 4k Sony video camera for video and have several insta360 cameras for other images and video. Total cost around $2,500, Would I go full frame again? NO!
So, I'm guessing you went FF?? Whatever you choose, enjoy. If I were a younger man with deep pockets, I might have done it as well. Plus, I'm not a pro, I just like capturing nice images, at least nice to me. So, M4/3 is fine for me.
Thanks! Yes, I went full frame. I would have stuck with MFT if the cameras kept advancing but it stagnated for too long. You can’t really go wrong with any format these days, they are all good tools to tell visual stories.
My fav body is GX7, superior design to anything which came after. Upgrade never came, a loss to Panasonic. GX8/80/9 are nothing like it.
There is a G9MK2 days... But still, the print resolution is nothing more than 300 dpi... even for the largest prints.... The bigger the prints, the less resolution is needed...
The opposite actually. Larger prints look better with higher resolution.
Great video about lenses. thank you.
0:29 You raised a question right here. Creative? Or a stupid mistake?
Good, very good movie. Good luck!
If you only need to print big, keep MFT and try Topaz Gigapixel AI. 👍
I did! It is a great tool, but only gets you so far. I actually still use it with the 42mp full frame to get up to the sizes I have been doing lately.
Still don’t see why your switching
I’m doing a lot more large commissioned prints for clients and needed a better quality camera with more resolution.
Great. I’ve subscribed. Will look forward to see whether the switch pays off. I’m just a hobbyist with g9 so would love to see if you find any other benefits along the way.
@@Localtraveler2376 I noticed the difference on the first job, I did several 8 foot prints and the quality was impeccable. On smaller prints it would be impossible to tell what camera was used. I also find my video is better on the full frame camera, but the difference is not as big as it is with photos.
Not sure I agree with the logic - noone stands 2 feet away from an 8 ft print for normal viewing - by the time you take up a normal viewing distance it's again impossible tell the difference. You can look at a 3 1/2 ft print from an inch away and you won't be able to tell the difference between a good MFT and a FF camera. Skip to 9:15 on this example for proof ruclips.net/video/OGn3yPl59ZM/видео.html
10:00 I suppose that's meant to be labeled 100-300mm ...
Wow that's a lot of lenses, cool shots!
Thanks 🙏
Hello, I'm currently shooting with Canon EOS 100D and EOS 250D (both APSC) with a few lenses (24, 40, 50, 18-55). I'm interested to have a new camera without low-pass filter and a Leica lense. So, I'm wondering if I could change my gear with a Lumix GX9 and a 15mm 1.7, shall I win in sharpness ? in image quality ? What is your opinion ? Chris
Sorry for the slow reply Chris! I would move up to a full frame Canon camera since you already own some lenses for that system. I’d probably go with an R or an RP, but if you do a lot of video an R6 or R5 would be better for that, but much more expensive.
Hey question, I’m from Boston, I’ve been trying to become a brand ambassador for Lumix, who do I contact for that?
Sorry, I’m Canadian so I never met the American team. I would reach out to their product manager, Sean Robinson.
Did you sell the panaleica 42,5?
I did, I used to joke that I would be buried with it haha!
@@Robservatory oohhh🙄 how much?
I think it was $1100.
@@Robservatory 😱😱😱
How did you not use the 10 25 1.7?
Never had one!
@@Robservatory that + gh6 you may come back.
The A7SIII may have something to say about that!
Gotta stay w gh5, or divorce. You sell 35-100? Should have kept gh4.
Good bye to you too.
Bandit cameo at 3:50 🐶!!
did you seel it all yet?
Most of it, still have a few lenses and small accessories I need to sell.
@@Robservatory wich?
So what system are you moving too?
I went with Sony, really happy with everything so far.
Bye bye!
So EXACTLY WHY are you abandoning MFT format. (Are you going to work for a billboard company)? Which doesn't make sense since large image printing usually has an intermediary step for grand murals, therefore images from MFT are suitable. So I'm curious, why?
Larger, higher resolution images for printing and also to achieve the large format look for filmmaking. There’s no denying full frame is superior. It is larger and more expensive than MFT, but worth the trade off. There’s also the fact that MFT is basically a dead format at this point.
From the sample images you post of your past work, I'm not sure on my 65" TV 4K screen that if you post large format or MFT images, I, (or you), would be able to tell me what images came from what camera. Nikon D810 owner, FUJI XT-1, LUMIX GF1, GX-1 and DC FZ200 owner ..
Thanks for your reply! 🫠
Definitely can’t tell on a screen. I have done some very large prints for clients, and the full frame did make a difference. Medium format would have been even better. That Nikon you have has an incredible sensor, about as good as it gets.
Failure
$ony, eh :-)
You know it!
The first three minutes of this video disproves the need to even move to another system. You talk about 5 ft prints in the hospital lobby, and pro results on video work.
If you need a 60mp camera for some reason, why not just buy one and keep the bulk of your micro4/3 gear? I myself shoot FF and m4/3. If you’re just bored, or whatever, that’s fine, just say so. This video really made no sense, sorry.
I just did a 16 foot print for the lobby of a $120M skyscraper, and a few other 8 foot prints for the lounges. When you’re doing high end jobs for high end clients you want to deliver the best quality that you can. There are lots of other advantages to bigger sensors than resolution, like dynamic range, tonality, low light etc. This video may not have made sense to you, hopefully that helps you better understand. M43 will never match the output of a larger sensor, whether you need more than M43 or not is up to you and your work. Personally I was ready to level up.
@@Robservatory print size is not impressive, iPhone billboards are 30ft across. It’s all about viewing distance, subject matter, and resizing software.
You’re the third “Lumix ambassador” I’ve seen who suddenly NEEDS and “upgrade” to Sony… after years of telling everyone how great micro4/3 is. Hilarious. I guess Sony pays better.🤷🏼♂️
I’ve never met anyone from Sony or received gear or money from them. I still have nothing but love for Lumix, it is a great system that treated me well. I just wanted a system that would grow with me into the future and MFT has stagnated for years, to the point that people think it’s dead. I hope it continues for a long time to come. For print size, I argue against the viewing distance argument. You can’t get up close to a bilboard, so it looks fine, but you can walk right up to one of my large prints and inspect the details, and people do all the time. Especially cityscapes and shots with a lot of small details, and you can absolutely see the difference clearly between formats. Bigger is always better when doing prints.
@@Robservatory I don’t see the stagnation you’re talking about. Olympus put out the EM1mkiii with high res mode, star AF, and 7 stops of stabilization. Panasonic had the GH5ii, and now we have the OM1 and GH6, plus a few new lenses.
I really don’t care what you shoot, I hope you enjoy your new gear. I just thought it was weird how seemingly every Lumix ambassador on RUclips drops them and goes to Sony, all in the last 6 months… not Canon, not Nikon, not Fuji… odd.
I played with the Sony GM 24-70 f2.8 in the store, you’d have to pay me to carry that thing around all day, and then pay my chiropractor bills too. Physics is a bitch.
and not ONE WORD why you are switching? rambling about how awesome MFT is but still switching without a word about it why? come on....
I stated it clearly. I needed a bigger format because my images were being purchased for extremely large prints being displayed in building lobbies and public spaces.
@@Robservatory sorry, then I overheard it, it's late here, my fault :/
Where is your instagram
I deleted it, can’t stand Instagram.
Did you sell the panaleica 42,5?