Totally agreed, but real problem is QA person which is already working in selenium with java dont want to move in another language due to skill lack issue Another face is - Manager ot test lead are not aware the power of js framework and knowledge. To secure own job they avoid new tech in automation testing They still are focusing on selenium with java only
Yeah, actually js based test automation is in demand in the market compared to Java also the pay is high, but still most of the testers want to learn only selenium+ Java.
@@letcode In Naukri, atleast from India, I rarely see recruitment based on Playright or JS based framework. Still 80 percent market is dominated by Selenium Java.
Yes it is, but it is going to change in a few years, i switched my job this year and i didn't get a single call for selenium. I got almost for webdriver IO and protractor.
@@letcode It's opposite for me. I got released from my current project and attended internal and external interview and almost all the calls I got was from Java Selenium Cucumber. I worked in Protractor for one year. But they asked me question on Selenium Java BDD. Also Protractor and WebdriverIO are basically selenium based api's. So it means Selenium still holds the market.
I already guessed your thoughts on seeing the topic itself. When you were explaining HAR in Playwright, you were backing TS. In my current company, I somehow convinced my Manager to go with Playwright but he was reluctant to use Typescript. Mainly because of the junior resources. Training them in TS and brining them upto speed is a risky bet and Manager dont want to take it. Several Integrations with in house tools are already made in Java. Doing them again in TS/JS would be difficult. So finally ended up with Playwright Java only. But it was awesome too. Personally I love Java’s strict data typing and syntax. Lambdas are cherry on the top. So am lovin’ it…
Java is good no doubt about that, but js /ts is easy i guess. For example while during parallel execute, we have to use thread local or driver sharing techniques. Whereas in ts just change the worker to 2 to more. Nowadays I feel like writing less code 😃
Thanks for the video as always 😊The biggest challenge is the integration with the test plan (azure devops )/ jira for playwright typescript , just hope microsoft give native integration for these ….. Or if you have any idea please make a video on that…. Thanks
I also think, as a new tool the amount of effort that Cypress is making is not done by Playwright. In their Twitter Handle, Cypress used to keep sharing success stories, giving pro users evangelists title. They are promoting a lot which Playwright is missing. In a recent interview a CTO of a startup questioned me about Cypress but he didn’t know Playwright.
Thank you for sharing your views . It is very helpful 🙏. Also one more question. In playwright Java docs I don’t see fixtures topic. Is fixtures applicable to only JavaScript/ Typescript?
The video was very informative. However, can we create/read/write Excel and Text files using Typescript? Similarly during the automation there may be scenarios where we have to connect to Database to retrieve a value (yes, even during UI automation). Is that possible to connect DB using TS?
@@viswathegreat2 1. HTML report, screenshot, video &. Tracing on failure/always on/on Retry. 2. Retry mechanisms 3. Parallel execution out of the box 4. Cross browser testing as projects.
Hello Koushik, need some suggestions related to this video. My company using angular and backend as .net c#, and for qa automation we planned to use playwright but which language to pick is the question? How to evaluate between js,ts,python,java and c#? And finally need to give data pointa. Can you help me in this?
@@letcode Thaks ,, hey when we use the command npm install playwright@latest what javaScript framework does it installs mocha or jest or anything else ?
Totally agreed, but real problem is QA person which is already working in selenium with java dont want to move in another language due to skill lack issue
Another face is - Manager ot test lead are not aware the power of js framework and knowledge.
To secure own job they avoid new tech in automation testing
They still are focusing on selenium with java only
Yeah, actually js based test automation is in demand in the market compared to Java also the pay is high, but still most of the testers want to learn only selenium+ Java.
@@letcode In Naukri, atleast from India, I rarely see recruitment based on Playright or JS based framework. Still 80 percent market is dominated by Selenium Java.
Yes it is, but it is going to change in a few years, i switched my job this year and i didn't get a single call for selenium.
I got almost for webdriver IO and protractor.
@@letcode It's opposite for me. I got released from my current project and attended internal and external interview and almost all the calls I got was from Java Selenium Cucumber. I worked in Protractor for one year. But they asked me question on Selenium Java BDD. Also Protractor and WebdriverIO are basically selenium based api's. So it means Selenium still holds the market.
Last 5 years i am working in JavaScript based framework and it is simple to use and configure
Thank you for this video, I was really looking for a JS/TS vs Java Playwright from the perspective of someone who knows both variants.
Glad it helps 😊
Thanks Koushik, it's very useful insights.
Great
I already guessed your thoughts on seeing the topic itself. When you were explaining HAR in Playwright, you were backing TS.
In my current company, I somehow convinced my Manager to go with Playwright but he was reluctant to use Typescript. Mainly because of the junior resources. Training them in TS and brining them upto speed is a risky bet and Manager dont want to take it. Several Integrations with in house tools are already made in Java. Doing them again in TS/JS would be difficult.
So finally ended up with Playwright Java only. But it was awesome too. Personally I love Java’s strict data typing and syntax. Lambdas are cherry on the top. So am lovin’ it…
Java is good no doubt about that, but js /ts is easy i guess.
For example while during parallel execute, we have to use thread local or driver sharing techniques. Whereas in ts just change the worker to 2 to more. Nowadays I feel like writing less code 😃
Mmm. Need to explore more in TS then. Thanks Kaushik.
Thanks for the video as always 😊The biggest challenge is the integration with the test plan (azure devops )/ jira for playwright typescript , just hope microsoft give native integration for these …..
Or if you have any idea please make a video on that…. Thanks
I saw some requests for this in playwright GitHub, i hope they will bring this as well.
Since it's new (2years) we can expect more in the future.
I also think, as a new tool the amount of effort that Cypress is making is not done by Playwright. In their Twitter Handle, Cypress used to keep sharing success stories, giving pro users evangelists title. They are promoting a lot which Playwright is missing. In a recent interview a CTO of a startup questioned me about Cypress but he didn’t know Playwright.
Yeah right.
Thank you for sharing your views . It is very helpful 🙏. Also one more question. In playwright Java docs I don’t see fixtures topic. Is fixtures applicable to only JavaScript/ Typescript?
Yes, fixtures are part of the playwright test runner.
Thank you very much . Appreciate for the quick replies 👍
Thanks bro..very helpful..
Always welcome
The video was very informative. However, can we create/read/write Excel and Text files using Typescript? Similarly during the automation there may be scenarios where we have to connect to Database to retrieve a value (yes, even during UI automation). Is that possible to connect DB using TS?
Yes, it is possible to R/W Excel and DB.
What are your thoughts about playwright with cucumberjs? Are you planning on any videos with this combination?
Not yet planned,
If we use cucumber we will lose the core features of the playwright test runner.
That's why I'm not interested in cucumber.
@@letcode Could you please explain a bit more about the core features that would be lost if we use Cucumber on top of playwright?
@@viswathegreat2
1. HTML report, screenshot, video &. Tracing on failure/always on/on Retry.
2. Retry mechanisms
3. Parallel execution out of the box
4. Cross browser testing as projects.
@@letcode Thanks for the quick reply:)
Hello Koushik, need some suggestions related to this video. My company using angular and backend as .net c#, and for qa automation we planned to use playwright but which language to pick is the question? How to evaluate between js,ts,python,java and c#? And finally need to give data pointa. Can you help me in this?
As mentioned in the video, TS is good.
Java and c# are mostly the same. So the down side is also the same.
Can you explain python scope compare with Javascript?
I'm not good at python, so i can't decide which is the best.
But In general automation and python have less scope in the market.
Thanks for information bro
any special benefits between using JavaScript and TypeScript
Yes, you can refer to my ts playlist.
ruclips.net/p/PL699Xf-_ilW5VXRsJwBJLmDGrsrYxBjQT&si=CwwuuZ_eDA40H_xu
@@letcode Thaks ,, hey when we use the command npm install playwright@latest what javaScript framework does it installs mocha or jest or anything else ?
By default it comes with a playwright test runner.
@@letcode okay thanks got it.