Emigrants Return To The West Of Ireland, 1991
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- With recession biting in Britain and the United States, the West of Ireland is experiencing a change in direction of the emigration trail. The knock-on effect is a lengthening of the dole queues at home.
Over the past five years the Archbishop of Tuam Dr Joseph Cassidy says some 7,500 people have emigrated from his diocese.
The population of Ballinrobe is 2,500. So that’s three Ballinrobes scattered to the four winds out of one diocese in five years and that’s a shocking scattering.
A large number of emigrants who came home for Christmas have decided to stay. Some of these returning emigrants talk of their frustration trying to find employment both abroad and at home.
Rosemary O’Keefe from Swinford has recently returned from Manchester. She counts herself lucky to be able to come back home as other people in her situation end up sleeping on the streets.
Ian and Terry Baker have been living in Teeside in the North of England but the unemployment is so bad that they’re thinking of coming over to Ireland in two or three years.
Fine Gael TD Paul Connaughton urges the government to deal with the unemployment crisis and create jobs using every available agency.
According to Dr Joseph Cassidy, Archbishop of Tuam, "The emigrants are not just coming back. The chickens are coming home to roost and we have to decide what we are going to do with them."
An RTÉ News report by Jim Fahy broadcast on 17 February 1991.
The music accompanying this clip is ‘Four Strong Winds’ by Neil Young from the album ‘Comes A Time’.
Wow, you can see why so many Irish people came to England. They faced so much prejudice back then as well. I'm glad things have changed now and that Ireland is much stronger.
The priest saying "the chickens are coming home to roost (and we cannot ring all their necks)" I think he said, it's a bit much. Those people have every right to come home. I hope they all had good lives. The girl hitchhiking around to get a job, was trying her best.
Ur best is never good enough for the church unless your dripping with fools gold!
Sure that was just as the Celtic Tiger was starting, so I'm sure they weren't waitin' too long. Though perhaps some o' them came back for the free money?
I wonder if she has watched this ?
Your comment is not only bang on but correct. Like u Finola I hope that they all found a place and peace in their homeland. The west suffered the most right down on the Atlantic coast over into Cork and Leinster. God Bless You.
@@youtubularTV no, think that kicked off in 1994 or 1995. 1991 was a terrible year among many.
I remember walking down Grafton street in the early 90s when I came back to Dublin for a visit and I nearly fainted with shock when I saw a job vacancy advertised in a window. A retail outlet was looking for staff and had placed a sign in the window, I was in my 20s and it was the first time I ever saw such a sign in Ireland.
Yea I started a course in the first year Tallaght RTC opened. I used yo go into the city for cheap tobacco and was amazed to see job vacancies. The first seeds of the celtic tiger perhaps.
Yes I remember being astonished a year earlier when I saw similar on a shop window in Galway.
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They were tough times from the 80s into The 90s. But we were all asked to tighten our belts tho some politicians were too busy buying expensive shirts to wear at expensive restaurants
You never saw a "help wanted" sign b4?
My wife remembers in the 50s and 6s of Irish villages with only old men and young boys as the middle aged men had left for the UK..I still find it upsetting what happened to those Irishmen in London etc..some couldn’t read or write and were often made to work very hard…it was a wasted generation..sad
Some left never to return 😢
Wow, I went to Uk in ‘89 with my now ex husband for a few years with the plan of returning in a few years, and then the Celtic tiger hit, and although having a good standard of living and good jobs, we couldn’t afford to move back…. ! House prices, cost of living etc. how this scenario changed in a few years!!!!
Those people who stayed did the right thing in the end of the day!!! I bet most all made a success of their life’s!
Irish history is amazingly diverse and what a significant change has happened culturally is beyond expectations. I’m so proud to be Irish, even if I can never return financially x
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I was in London in 91 and there was loads of work for Irish people I was down at the channel tunnel keeping the tide out with a pitchfork
Ya I remember u with a left handed fork 😂
complaining that 7,000 returning irish are a burden on the dole queues so invites 150,000 african immigrants to come to ireland for free money and free housing...WAKE UP
Exactly. Absolute madness, but completely deliberate.
Exactly we always work they don’t
The priest was well out of order here ..
if an Irish person wants to come home .. that’s their choice
None of that cxxts business
A universal tragedy all over the world ..where economies for whatever reason are not able to provide a decent living to the jobseekers
Irish are a hardworking nation but opportunity can’t be missed on any emotional ground
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That hitchhiking girl hope she got a job and has had a great life. She deserves the best , fair play to her I admire her determination. 👍👍
Was just about to say the same. Powerful
That Ryanair plane looked like a submarine
BAC 1-11. Beautifully loud!
It is a BAC 111. These were commonly used by both Air Lingus and Ryanair in the late 80's and early 90's.
I know a fella who was supposed to fly back to London from Knock around then, but the flight was cancelled due to a storm. They were loaded onto a bus and hit for Shannon. On the way they came to an railway crossing outside Claremorris, where the wind had blown the barrier into the down position and was blocking the road. The bus driver got a bunch of lads off the bus and between them they manually raised the barrier and went on their way. You’d get locked up today if pulled a stunt like that
Good craic though
A safety valve also created to prevent civil unrest by the ruling class who in general kept their families at home in full employment
Exactly. The Irish don't protest, we emigrate.
@@RobWright1981 thats the truth
Nothing's changed. I just left Aus after 10 years working over there. The Irish pretty much have all civil construction work in Sydney and Melbourne boxed off. We're building every piece of infrastructure: train stations, roads, bridges, tunnels, you name it, Paddy is building it. And I would say that of the 100s of Irish lads I met/worked with 90% are Sligo/Mayo/Donegal/Galway.
Indeed. I am from Mayo and a lot of my mates went over there between 08 and 11, most of them civil engineers. And why wouldn't they stay, if they're earning better over there and hitched to a local sheila?
I went to Dublin in 87 everybody was coming back from England then I thought there was lots of work around, I think I was lucky I knew a few lads that always needed somebody in the building trade, all them boys that came back from England had one thing in common alcohol and bitterness☘️☘️☘️☘️ in Australia now 25 years time goes fast, going back at Christmas for 4 weeks I got 10 brothers are sisters♥️☘️♥️☘️
Australia , the lucky country .
If only they were to see or knew what was coming around the corner in the later 90s and beyond when the "Celtic Tiger" was to emerge sparking an unprecedented trend of large scale *immigration* from around the world, strikingly sub saharan Africa in particular.
It was about to kick off the very following year
centrally organized not organic.
Most of the immigration was from Europe though
@@TheDominionOfElites shhh don't try to use facts with these people just rip on black people
Not during the Celtic Tiger, most of the immigrants from that time were from Poland and the Baltic states
I left in 84 never went back to live had 3 jobs 7 days a week in Massachusetts within 6 months 22 years old and 3 paychecks I was not about to give that up to go home its great to see how Ireland has changed the standard of living has greatly improved no more going to bed with a hot water bottle.
How are ye now?
I still use a hot water bottle, what are you on about?
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@@terriconroy1203 I bought 2 recently.
what's wrong with a hot water bottle?
galway has changed alot , not the buildings thought , shop street never really changed , its a mess now , not to many gingers mullets around these days, what a iconic look
Never any bus lanes down ther when I used to go on holidays in the 90’s it’s mad now 😢
A wealthy bishop talking about poverty, while in the background a lavish palace, hidden in plain sight, says it all .
Thank god Ireland has changed no body gives a fuck about the church or priests or bishop Irish people are becoming a minority in their own country we have a game in our town it's called spot the paddy 😅 Annie Murphy Ireland
And always a new car 🚗🙄...
And a secret child 😯
I'm hearing from Ireland, it is very hard for small business to find workers. Many are financially better off in the dole. Some employers are paying cash under the table to get workers.
Well I served my time here. £9 per week. My friends went off to London for the big money. I didn't ever get big money. Most of my friends in London etc just pissed the money away sadly.
Nothing like the warmth of a smoky commercial plane cabin
I’m not even Irish, I’m from Colorado. But I worry about the future of Ireland. The Irish are a unique race of people distinct from the rest of Europe and it’s a shame that mainstream ideas just lumps them all in as “white” and there is no recognition of the need to preserve actual Irish ethnicity and culture the same way Natives preserve their culture here in Colorado. The Irish are an indigenous people to their land, unlike the English.
Oh heavens- my grandparents came from the north of Scotland (to Canada). The government paid them to leave in the 20's due to two years bad crops and the herring disappearing. It drives me mad how governments will bend over backwards for 'ethnic' reparations, but the Scots aren't acknowledged as such, being the same colour as the English. Scotland is now my second home, I stay in the area my grandparents came from, my dad's cousin still lives in the house she was born in. The whole 'native American' treatment versus native Scots and Irish is a disgrace. All they have given us is the right to reside through grandparents, which is better than nothing.
Not sure your statement "the Irish are an indigenous people to their land, unlike the English" is entirely true, it's more complicated than that.
@@jamieb5317 sure it’s more complicated then that, but we could also say the same about Native Americans and every other indigenous people, yet they’d still argue they are indigenous despite coming from waves of ancient migrations from another land just as the Irish had.
The English only have so long in Britain and the dark ages although long from todays day is nothing compared to the time that passed since the first ancestors of the Irish arrived on that island. They have been there long enough to have developed a connection to that land which is the same foundations many other indigenous people hold. Maybe you just hear the word “indigenous” and assume dark skinned peoples with cultures that are exotic to your own origin, people who have a tribal society. Just because the Irish don’t exist in feuding clans and different tribes anymore doesn’t mean they aren’t the people who belong on that island and hold a connection to it.
@@jamieb5317 well here’s my two cents, England also used to be Celtic until the Anglo Saxons came over and anglicised everything. That’s why there are still some historically Celtic parts of England like Cornwall.
More British people moved to Ireland than Irish people to Britain. Which is why there are more people with British surnames in Ireland than Irish surnames in Britain.
Simon Harris anybody? Gerry Adams? John Bruton?
The beautiful cities and suburbs of Ireland, weren't built on the proceeds of potatoes and pigs, nor where they built by the people who depended on every harvest to keep the hunger away.
Early 90s, things were really bad in US. Lots of layoffs. Guess that's why many stayed in Ireland.
The priest describing emigration as a "safety valve" for Irish society at 4:32 reminds me of reading leading professional historians using the same expression as a fact to describe 20th century Ireland, and personally I've never understood why. To make society safe from what? A rebellion? A lower standard of living for others? Emigration in Ireland evidently went hand-in-hand with lack of urban development, or integrating town and rural economies more effectively, but in recent decades people seem to emigrate more for better opportunities rather than no available work. Donal McCann's performance in the film of Philadelphia Here I Come (1971) is worth a watch if you haven't seen it. Depressing, but good. The Englishman who directed the film interpreted the play as Ireland having no shortage of talent; it just had a shortage of opportunities. A society unable to support itself is surely a matter for political economists to analyse and propose remedies for, but I'm not sure if they ever used that expression "safety valve". Any time I hear or read it being used, I am shocked.
The state would otherwise have to meet unemployment benefits, require housing etc.
@@jmccullough662 and its OK to have 49k Ukrainians ,85K Africans milking the system!?
Good points _ but also bad leadership within the country coupled with a ingrained concit for its own..
Bunch of useless c🎱BT’s. I wouldn’t have hired any of them whingers
@@captainteeling7002 None of those were around in 1991, and the Eastern Europeans in particular are known for having a good work ethic.
Irish people complaining about refugees, smh.
Good thing was the Irish economy took off soon after this. Late 1993 things had started to turn in Ireland
Would be great to hear from these people now. Wonder how many became Tiger millionaires?!
I was interviewed for this news article and I did come home, three years later; and lucky I came when I did, otherwise like many who emigrated and thought they would make money and get home again, I wouldn't have been able to as cost of living and cost of property is extortionate now! Our politicians are total sell outs. 😔
Just after the first Gulf War, construction work dried up in London almost overnight.
Love the opening 4 Stong Winds song by Neil Young. Glad and proud that a Canadian artist could contribute to this video.
Tray .just absolutely 💯 love this song. 😀 👋 from Ireland 👋 🇮🇪
By Phil Ochs, lovely man, sad story
The last guy should have taken the news reporters job! Then he wouldn’t be so smart-alexed asking such a stupid question. Be careful who you judge, it could be you someday!
Who asked a stupid question ??
What are you fucking on about?
The red haired Irish guy has just returned from the USA to his home country, Ireland and is looking for work and the news reporter patronises him by asking “And do you think your gonna find a job here where a quarter of a million people are out of work?”.. he should have replied “ oh yes, I’ll do your job tomorrow sure and you can go to America and be unemployed for a while, see how you like it sir!”
@@johnambrose1995 smart-assed / patronizing/ sarcastic/ rude/cheeky
@@sabrinaohagan2480 good point
I wonder what they would think of today's Ireland with escalating immigration.
We are in the dogs in terms of immigration
Priest "there's very little construction in England".
The IRA "Hold my Guinness "
Presently the UK has lowest unemployment numbers since 1974...But employment is cyclical and recessions will come again, Boom and bust is deliberately created by the banking system to strip ordinary workers of their assets..
I agree, in addition they have been trying to usher in a one world currency and one world government
There is no boom at the moment though.
Yes very true.
Load of Bull.I was working on Grand Buildings in Trafalgar Square. There was loads of work for tradesmen in 1991
I got a job there in london after a day 1993, but half of them ole jobs are useless, no security, high rents.
Shocking scattering...
The priest was the only person with a job
if everyone came home, Ireland would sink under water.
7.5k altar boys trying to escape the clutches of a catholic priest.
Very depressing . Left Limerick City early 90’s and lived my life in California . Amazing life the past 30 plus yrs . Thanks America
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Also from Limerick! What kind of visa was available in the 90's? seems hard to get in now, I'm currently looking to emmigrate there and my best option seems to be the H1B visa.
@@CycleAlong Canada is your best bet . And are accepting immigrants . I think you can get working visa to USA as well . Do some research .
@@CycleAlong virtually no hope for American visa
I worked in Lo don from 87 to 97..I worked morning, noon and night...
All part of the plan
You couldn't get a job in 91 and they wouldn't let you work in 21!
The tail end of the Era of Mullet..
Mullet has come back in recent years, watch any GAA match for confirmation of that.
@@TheLastAngryMan01 still trending here in Australia 😂
01:17 piebald wasn't looking for work.
Working for peanuts 🥜 and handing it straight to the landlord , that's why they don't build housing , if they build the property prices drop considerably
Liam Gallagher is looking well.
We need to see more Gaelic immigration to Ireland, caithfimid ár tír a coiméad beo go deo ☘
And the numbers never moved.
As of the 2016 census, the population was 2,786. Wikipedia
2.35 that’s the lady from danu’s Irish herb garden!
Wow, good pick up!
How could you tell???
@@terriconroy1203 Don't know, took about 3 seconds and then it clicked. :) Have enjoyed your videos for a while though!
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1:41 What the hell language is that? I've listened over and over and I can't figure out a word he's saying lol. It's also interesting that people had go out to look for a job. I've heard of that before. So weird life before the internet. I've gotten every job I've ever had laying in bed and drinking coffee while applying electronically. Imagine, having to get up and out of bed just to go and look for a job without any guarantee that you'll even be able to apply. Shocking that is to me, shocking.
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"A lot of them are sleeping rough at the moment you know. They’re sleeping in cardboard boxes you know. A lot of the younger generation they get ah…they get their ahh…dole money and they go over to the bright lights of London, you know, they think things are going to be very good and ahh…they end up in cardboard boxes you know, in cardboard city. So they’re coming back you know. So they say things are pretty atrocious. Nobody could live in London at the moment."
@@rayj7273 LOL, thanks for the translation. NO IDEA!!!
@@fifab82 Thanks for the "diabolical" reference, I didn't notice that. But the "cardboard city" reference is in there. So let's say I got an A-.
@@rayj7273 Indeed. My grandfather told me a story once about having to go to Victoria station to pick up the body of a man he knew from back home. Fella had fallen on hard times and couldn’t be seen to go back to his home place out of shame. Different era, 1960s, RIP.
2:20 I love the 'holy' accent the priest has. Calm, slightly camp.
He is a Bishop. I think the Archbishop of Tuam
@@jgdooley2003 More like the Arsebishop!
My grandfather told me the English told him in 1950s.. no Irish need apply. They told him to go away.
I'm afraid that's a tall tale.
The vast majority of Irish that went to England got on well, I know this first hand.
Many of these people probably ended by being internal migrants- moving from the West Coast to the greater Dublin region. The Celtic tiger was/is not a myth but it/was uneven. So by this point (1991) the situation would have already been improving in the greater Dublin area. While boom clearly impacted the West coast it was never as vigorous in these areas as Greater Dublin economic area
The Celtic Tiger was very uneven, both geographically and class-wise. I think that's why a lot of the often quoted media commentary, such as 'We (as in 'the Irish') have never had it so good', rubbed some people up the wrong way.
Similar story with the recovery from the 2008 crash, maybe to a lesser extent.
The talk of recovery and how well 'we' were all doing was kind of heartbreaking in many western areas because it made people feel invisible, with all the young people leaving for Dublin and abroad and the countryside becoming even more deserted and lifeless than it ever had been before and the only people moving in being wealthy retirees (usually from Dublin or abroad), who may well have been lovely folk but did nothing to stem the decline of local culture, roots, dialects (though the media also played a role here).
And in coastal Gaeltacht areas there's been a 'housing crisis' since the 1980s with people from other places buying holiday homes and pricing locals completely out of the market and yet we only started hearing about housing problems once Dublin started experiencing them over the last few years.
@@cigh7445 Yes its quite sad really. Ireland is an example of 'successful' neoliberal capitalism- relatively high long-term rates of growth based on extreme openness to the global economy (FDI), domestic financialiation/real estate capitalism and relatively deregulated labour markets. The dislocations and inequalities (regional and class based) we see in contemporary Ireland are intrinsic to this model of development. Ireland now has one highest GDP per capita in the world. In my view, if not that of economic and political elites, the challenge now is not simply to promote more growth but create systems that offer sustainable futures for diverse communities across the country while placing some limits on inequality.
The big trend in the West now is for people to completely abandon family farms as the younger generations are all now mostly educated in other fields and do not want the hard life and perpetual struggle that small holdings entails. This means that many smaller farms are sold off when the mostly aged farmers pass on and other farmers consolidate holdings into bigger units. The really effective farmers undertake 3rd level studies in agriculture and contemporary farming systems and go for even bigger land acquisitions to make their carreers more viable. This means less people in the towns and villages as the other workers migrate towards the likes of Galway etc. for non farming jobs.
1:21: This fella should have gone to Kentucky or Tennessee or Texas here in the US, he could have gotten a job as a country music frontman.
A priest giving his opinion on unemployment lol. What's next, marriage?
The clergy actually do deliver pre marriage courses...
Cowboy hat he could afford that
I was in London in the early 90's had no problem finding work on the building sites
I agree.i was in London in the late eighties into the early nineties and was never out of work.went home couldn't get work.went to America and no problems getting well paid work.something is not right with what they are saying I reckon
@@johnfleming5678 I was working in London's Docklands in 1990-1993. Part of my job was signing subbies on to the site in the mornings, and a lot of them were only getting 20 quid a day in 1991. I was on good money and bought my first house in '92....but when I was looking, I had people begging me to buy theirs at a loss, so they could get out from under their mortgages. There were often up to estate agents boards outside every house for sale, and often half the hoses on a street were for sale. People were walking away from their homes and throwing their keys through the letterbox.
@@shamrockshore6308 that's awful about those guys on £20a day.i was on £110 a day shuttering and you could that anywhere in the centre of london.i did hear about guys working for agencies who were being ripped off and yes I remember a friend of mine from home who bought a house and the whole thing went wrong in a big way but he held on to his house just about!lost touch with him but if he hung on until now can you imagine what's worth
1991? Looks like 1971.
Those priest types really get my goat. They are beyond useless.
Lots to say no solutions to offer and a cruel take on the situation...
Amazing I have been in America for forty years and always had work. That being said I work most people who want a job but don’t want to work are usually dismissed as no company can employ useless people who don’t produce.
Every person needs an initial leader, either a parent or teacher or sports coach, to embue in them a sense of self direction and self motivation. Some people learn this life skill early and apply it for the rest of their lives. Really effective people learn to work to their own limits and accept setbacks and steps backwards as temporary and to be overcome in good time. Resilience. Others, lacking either the personal fortitude or skills to overcome setbacks are doomed to remain on the dole or in dead-end jobs for most of their lives. What Ireland faced in the 1990's was a chronic lack of investment in science, tech eng and maths ( STEM) education and lack of investment in roads, telecoms and other infrastructural services needed by a modern economy.
Most of these problems have been solved but housing and health maintenance, both mental and physical, need to be addressed urgently. This is where the problems regarding recruitment and personal development now lie.
God bless the USA :
Thank god for the EU the euro and the celtic tiger