Week 38: Mounting corals: epoxy, super glue, and lighting tweaks | 52 Weeks of Reefing
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Today on Week 38 of BRStv's 52 Weeks of Reefing, we are showing you our favorite ways to mount corals and frags in your tank!
#BRS160
Generally there are three main methods that we use when mounting frags: Gel Bubble, Air Water Gel Hybrid, and Epoxy Hybrid
Gel Bubble: Super glue has a tendency to form a skin underwater. We use this to our advantage by squeezing a metal super glue tube out underwater, forming a glue bubble. This bubble can be gently grabbed under water, and pressed onto your rock work. Then, it's only a matter of placing your coral into the bubble and allowing it to cure.
Air Water Gel Hybrid: One of the most popular methods of coral mounting, this involves simply applying a blob of super glue onto the mounting surface of your coral, and then pressing it onto your rock work. Giving the coral a quick twist onto the rock surface will break the super glue skin, exposing uncured glue and forming a bond to the rock.
Epoxy Hybrid: This method requires the use of both epoxy and super glue. Essentially you apply a dab of super glue on each side of a ball of epoxy, sandwiching the epoxy between glue, coral, and rock.
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Your energy level is always upbeat, but in recent times even more so . . . marriage must suit you well! As usual, your videos are most educational, easy to understand, and you cover all topics coming from the angle of experts and amateurs alike -- something for everyone. Thank you.
CA glue gel bubble is very useful demonstration!!!!!! Can be used for anything! Working with CA glue is so hard and gravity is always in the way. Clever work around!!!!
I have been following BRS for a while now, and I have to say these videos are as good as it gets for accurate and helpful information in this hobby. Huge thumbs up to Ryan and the BRS crew, from my neighbor and I who watch every single video... more than once. lol Great job!
Another awesome episode. Keep up the good work guys. The BRS160 is gonna be a breathtaking tank once those frags get big
Thanks once again for starting of my Saturday morning. A coffee and the BRS TV ...doesn't get much better than that, until the footy comes on anyways.
This is hands down the best aquarium channel out there if not youtube as a whole, thanks for the great show guy's
Another super informative video from BRS, thank you!
I'll be honest. At the beginning of this one I thought, hmmm first one I might skip. I was wrong to think it. MANY good points and tips. GREAT episode!
Thanks again guys. I never knew about the underwater glue bubble but it's definitely something to try. I hate having to wait days to get all the glue off my fingers. Looking forward to the next video, it's a subject which seems to have as many opinions as ..., well you know how that one goes.
I like to blend in epoxy by using rock chips. If you got dry rock, you probably ended up with a ton of pebbles and dust. Push some of those into the exposed epoxy (or glue them on if the epoxy is cured) and it does wonders for hiding off color epoxy.
bought your guys' CA extra thick glu last weekend.
by far the best deal online for sure. I think I got 10oz for $25?
when other gel glue goes for $6 for .14oz..... it was a no brainer.
thanks again for being a great resource
I use epoxy/glue combo. works great. last weeks coral choice video was awesome. i had to pause, and write the names and place of purchase down. great looking coral. another great video! keep them coming.
I loved my Seneye that I got from you guys last week! It showed me exactly what I needed! I actually just purchased some T5 retrofit from you guys earlier this week and I got it today! Since I realized my PAR from my LEDs was too low and probably the reason why some of my SPS did not color up well. Thanks for this awesome video!
Great tip about the underwater glue bubble. I'll be buying some tubes of super glue to test that with!
I live watching and learning. thanks
Awesome video!! I have been watching the progression of this reef tank and I found it very interesting, great looking and above all, educational. Thanks so much for the tips on mounting frags, par values and flow! I gave a 120 gallon mixed reef lps but dominated with sps) with an algae scrubber and skimmer for filtration, lit by t-5. There is always something new to learn. Thanks again!!
Another great video.
I didn't know about making the superglue bubble underwater and I moved a couple of corals today and it was so much easier, thanks for the tip.
Now just to get the glue off my fingers..........
Great Video!
CoralFish12g great channel!
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I want to thank you guys for this series, it has been tremendously helpful. I'm a relatively inexperienced reefkeeper, my tank has running just over a year now and has been keeping corals for half of that. This series has inspired me to make a number of changes to my tank and given me the confidence to really dive head first into the hobby. I've added a reef controller and upgraded to the BRS 150 watersaver. One recent change was a switch from a dial adjustable LED light to a T5 supplemented with antinic LED strips I added my self. When I bought the light I didn't notice that it already had 4 blue LEDs that come on during the lights night mode "to simulate natural moonlight". It's a very faint light but I'm curious how it will affect my livestock. From what I can tell there's some debate over the usefulness of this setting. How does the BRS team feel about this? Would/have you ever used this in your tanks or is this something I should make an effort to turn off?
I've been purchasing and reading aquarium books since I was fiveteen. Sadly, at thirty-three, I still haven't fulfilled my dream of having a chunk of reef living in my bedroom. Something I hope is going to change soon. (And, because I dream big and I'm willing to have my tank cycling for even a year, I have set myself the challenge of breeding mandarins. Even considering that I only have the amount of space equivalent to 40G to spare!). I don't have any real hands-on experience, but I've spent almost eighteen years reading about the... ¿hobby? Best call it art. If I stacked up all the books and magazines related to aquariums that I own, I'm sure that the resulting pile would be taller tan me. That said, after watching your videos, I honestly think that I could throw most of those books away. This week-to-week series is, without a doubt, the most comprehensive guide on reef aquariums ever published, and it's not even finished. There are fourteen more magnificent episodes to go! I couldn`t be more excited.
I use the glue epoxy hybrid.It works great for zoanthids, branching hammers and to secure aquascaping. I always use gel super glue.
Hey, im having a hard time to glue my frogspown and hammers. I usually put the glue on the base of the coral and attach it to the rock, but it keeps falling.
mind was just blown away with the underwater glue bubble....
Thanks BRS TV for this great informing lesson on mounting corals really appreciate the time effort u guys but in to educate us.Thank you.
Great video guys very informative as usual. You have all helped me massivly over the last year since setting up my red sea reefer 250 👍
Man this is complicated, the light part
Looks at tab and sees " Ebay: Kessel H160 Halo 2 LED $500" I figured if I bought the best light I could find I could grow any and all corals.
I understand that it's like going for the brightest PAR possible but with this newly found information I can extrapolate and run them at a lower brightness hehe I feel like it's the perfect light
Just watched the previous weeks about all the corals....why mount if the corals may have to be moved to make them happier, I’m confused
Can't wait to order some frags.
+BulkReefSupplyCom not bad on their prices also
I use the thick gel in the tube not the plastic bottle because u can never get all of it out!! Also if it's underwater and u stop squeezing, the water gets sucked into the bottle and it's done!
Great tips! Have used the BRS extra thick gel as my primary method. Words great... Lots of tips in this vid just when I thought my plan was solid u drop the gel underwater bubble on us lol... How do you all get every single tip in one video? U all Must have a focus group before every topic lol
So i have watched every week. I see that your sump has a ton of marinepure blocks, I cannot get my nitrates over 0, what is your tank reading on the nitrates? Can you go over how your handling your parameters after establishment. I think its key as you progress and keep your corals you show us how your parameters are being balanced. More about nutrients, i think you covered the big 3 well.
Why do you want nitrates?
FWIW I put purple epoxy on white dry rock for once the corralled took off but also I thought the contrast of a small amount of purple on the rocks looked pretty good.
Corraline not coralled
Love the bubble technique. I've never seen that before. I also had no idea about the skimmer issues when using the epoxy. Thanks for those tidbits! My question now is, what are you doing with the color on your Kessils and how many hours a day are you running the lights?
How are you determining what goes were PRIOR to gluing them on the rock? You cannot glue something and then move it up if it isn't happy or vice versa.
I wish there was some kind of device that holds the frag and yet also grabs the rock structure for testing, all prior to final gluing.
Thanks for the tips all the same.
Great video as always, now I want a Seneye! Can be a very useful tool for me since I run halides only.
Can u please make a video on filtration in an all in one nano 10g tank
Thanks for the video
Sigh... I love you guys. I have not attached my corals yet because I just can't bring myself to put superglue in my tank!!!!! GAHHHH it's driving me nuts!!
Superglue gel is reef safe and works great!
That's what you guys meant by using superglue. I never thought to use it directly underwater. I wish I would have known this before attaching all those frag plugs! Ugh. Lol
Me niether!! I love the glue bubble!! So useful and trippy too!!
+Eric A. I assume you're using the thick super gel. What brand works best?
+brihortee I use either thrive coral glue gel or regular super glue gel from the market. I usually get the one in the yellow packaging (original super glue gel) or whatever's on sale. I'm not that picky. Just make sure it's the gel kind.
+brihortee I almost forgot.. Make sure it's Ethal cyanoacrylate.
+Eric A. Ok, thanks!
Awesome
Once you have mounted the coral and it has had a long time to grow and instead of being a 1" frag it's a 7" coral how do you remove it without breaking it?
This is great
Great video, as usual. I'd like to put in a request for a video on De-nitraters. I've read a few things about them, and they seem good, but I haven't seen many youtube videos on them!
+BulkReefSupplyCom Yes, I think so. (sorry for the uncertainty. I'm still learning about them!) Just read they can add serious stability to a tank.
+BulkReefSupplyCom Yes, in week 26. I see it now thank you. Well, if you have time to discuss them in more detail, I'd appreciate it. I watched a video with a beautiful ?300gal? tank which claimed no water changes in 2 years partly due to what I believe is a sulfur reactor. I don't want to fall victim to hype, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't intrigued by the technology!
Check out the ThomasVisionReef video: "Picking up My New Aquarium - 90Gallon Reef Savvy Tank - HUGE MONTI" on RUclips at: ruclips.net/video/eGUvGleRQtU/видео.html Start at the 14:20 mark to see the amazing potential of using denitrification! They use the Natureef Denitrifier! Enjoy!
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So the only way to get frags off a frag plug is with a saw? No way to pull them off the frag plug?
what are some good choice for the sides of big rocks? Lps and softie tank. I dont want to put zoas because of them spreading and also mushrooms. Will it bend the coral sideways and try to grow towards light? I had a pectenia do that sort of. Cant really remember because it been a while but it grew differently I know that. Are there any mushroom that wont spread? i have on ebig ricordia that I am going to use and hasnt spread and a blasto but not sure what else i can put! I could never get my seneye to work I got from u and cant get a response from them! So now i really hate to rent one! Should have done that or sent it back to begin with!
thanks
I have a jbj nano cube. So adjusting lighting and flow is out... so where would I place acans and duncans???
I love this series cause its gonna make it easier for me when I setup my next tank 👍
+BulkReefSupplyCom it's a AIO
+BulkReefSupplyCom florescent type
+BulkReefSupplyCom On the sand bed with some shade?
+BulkReefSupplyCom awesome thanks for the advise... you guys rock
What have I gotten myself into !? hehe
How do you get gooey corals attached? For example, I had a mushroom detach and ended up putting it in a bowl with rubble hoping it'd reattach on its own. The coral glue options just didn't get the job done.
My rock is white, new, which glue can you recommend please
Hi, you mentioned you are using a quad T5 lighting lamp. What ATI bulb colors are you using here? Also would your lighting be considered as 20k or more like 14k?
I'm a newbie reefer and have a lot to learn. Lol. I have a 40 breeder FOWLR with live rock and live sand with various fish that's been set up going on almost 3 months now. Last month I added five coral frags: zoa, GSP, finger leather, clove polyp. They are all doing just fine. I use a dual T5 coralife 10000k with actinic lamp. I'm really wanting euphyllia such as hammer, frogspawn, torch. Three days ago I added two hammer frags and so far they are looking open and happy. I recently got a T5 quad lamp and read that many reefers are getting good color and growth with LPS by just using 3 blue plus and one purple plus. ATI also lists that combo for the 20k range. Would you recommend 20k for euphyllia corals or more of a 10-14k?
I love watching your videos, I continue to learn the ins and outs of this hobby :)
Great video! Having a question... I have 2 x Kessil 160WE over my 122cm x 50cm x 45cm tank (17 cm over the water surface) and I am trying to tune them as I am not having the best time mainly with many Acropora (burnt tips slowly expanding or slow tissue recession/bleaching over time). Some Acros and Montipora are within the top 15 cms of the tank . What is a recommended light schedule/intensity/spectrum? How do you suggest acclimating Acropora in my setup? Have you ever measured PAR from Kessil A160WE?
So, like..dumb beginner question. do you have to frag corals to get them to grow over the rockwork? Or if I place a coral somewhere overtime will it spread over the space it has?
Most corals can just be glued into place and then will grow onto the rock work 🙂
hello, did coral need a uv light or common LED light ? and it should on the light all the time ?
Just curious...do you have any clearance between the back of the tank and the rock work? Or is it basically right up against it?
I'm partial to pegging. It's a lot of up front time but makes it easy down the road.
Hi, if I had a zoa frag and wanted to mount it sideways on the back of the tank would the heads facing downwards towards the sand bed die as they are not receiving any light?
BulkReefSupplyCom Thanks a lot. :)
What if you don't glue your corals? Could you just find a stable place to put your frag?
I'm trying to glue green star polyps to the back glass of my tank so it'll up the back of the tank. What method do you suggest? I tried super glue and it didn't hold.
Beautiful tank! What species of fish is that in the bottom right corner at the 50 sec. mark?
Thanks for the quick reply! Are there any dwarf angels that would be suitable for a Coralife 32 gallon biocube. I am hoping to get this AIO in the near future and I am still working on stocking lists?
What kind of rocks there? Dry live rock or live rock ?
are gels fish safe? can you use the gel in an aquarium with fish?
Way to high tech
Do you happen to know how high off the water the Kessils are?
Hey BRS, I've been trying to glue my zoa frags but they don't even stick. They fall due to the slightest touch or if a crab walks by. Am I doing it wrong? I use reef glue, put glue on the frag then go underwater and stick it to the rock. No luck.
I would suggest gluing the zoa frag to a piece of rubble rock out of the water, then using the epoxy/super glue hybrid method that Ryan talks about to mount the rubble to the main rock structure. It's easier and you'll get a stronger bond.
Whats a good skimmer for a 50 gal. display with a 20 gal. sump?
Do you have the PAR reading after AP700 are set to 33%?
what is the best glue for the Gel Bubble method?
Is there going to be a magnet cleaner Video
Any advise on mounting a piece of finger coral? I've tried drying it off and attaching to a mount with gel glue but the coral seems to be producing a slime layer that prevents the glue from sticking to it. It tried holding it in place overnight with a loose rubber band and that didn't help either...
Have you tried using a accelerator with your glue to make this hold faster? I would give this a shot! We have this on our site, and works well at hardening the glue.
www.bulkreefsupply.com/insta-set-super-glue-accelerator-bob-smith-industries.html
Tunez lol....TUN_ZEEE!
Not finding the Gel bubble glue on your site! am I missing something?
What percent PUR is the BRS 160 operating at?
Do I really need to use a frag plug?can't I glew the coral directly to the rock work?
You can definitely let the coral grow directly on your rock work and avoid the frag plug entirely.
@@BRStv so I put glue directly on coral?wat about zoas
When I stacked my rocks I got to a really nice structure but at the top it's a little wobbly. What method should I use? I was thinking the thick super glue approach.
Super glue is a great tool for securing your rock structure. Tunze Coral Gum also works really well and both cure underwater.
Could you not use the "lead core" laying flat pointed at a mirror on a 45° ?
Btw great series :)
I was thinking about coral plugs that the bottom screws off. Just an ideas. I get 50% of the funds 😎
Yeah! You glue the base into the rocks and you can easily change the corals that are on different plugs. Also, another idea. You know how ice is often used to get anemones off rocks. Wedge shaped ice cube mould.
How do you remove the frags from their plugs to get such a small coral to place?
Several sized flat head screwdrivers do wonders on prying coral off frag plugs. Be gentle with this method.
where do acan get placed in tank. i just got some and am not sure if i just put on sand and let it go or put on rock and let it cover it
can you leave them in sand
Bought my first coral a torch and it’s been maybe 1.5 hours since I’ve applied him to the rock work with reef glue he hasn’t opened up at all did I do something wrong?
Give him some time. The coral has been in the tank for just over an hour and is more than likely just acclimating to it's new surroundings.
Thank you. For your quick reply.. I’m going to give him a few days to see where he is. Thank you again..
Bulk Reef Supply well figured out the problem 10 hours later I glued him upside down.. think it will grow correctly now I fixed it and fed it with Kent. I got the glue off the head of the coral
Will scotch gel super glue work?
Stale Meme oh yeah yeah
BulkReefSupplyCom ok, I'll keep that In mind
hi! skimmer deltec sc2061 for 700 L???
Are plaly's/zoas toxic to people, I have heard mix answers?
+CXK03 If you get their neurotoxins in your skin/eyes or if you have a cut and it gets to you yes.
Has hot glue sticks been tried ?
Hmm...haven't tried that one, but I see where you're going with it. Hard thing with that would be gluing corals under water.
Don’t electrocute yourself
@@Vidishish Yeah, I m not stupid. I look to see what I want, plan for it and set up everything I want in the tank before I begin adding water. I have shelves placed all across the ledges and branchges, each to total a certain size I can successfully place what and where I want. I'm not one to shuffle things around, usually I don't have problems with moving but if so I place them where there's other shelves. If you are not happy with the way I plan my aquariums then don't read or comment.
Setting up my first reef tank. I was shocked you can put any glue in a tank at all (with clowns checking it out as you put in frags). All the parameters and tests involved with this hobby and toxic evaporative glue is ok...wow.
cyanoacrylate glue (super glue) is what you'll want to use. Specifically extra thick super glue as it's easier to work with. If you won't want to use glue, there are a lot of different epoxies out there like Tunze Coral Gum that you can use too.
@@BRStv Thanks again, Im planning on using your CA on an NSA.
The problem with watching Par is it doesn't take spectrum under consideration.
+BulkReefSupplyCom cool. . that makes that decision easy..
5:50
Ic gel
Massive pain in the butt