@@paullarne Except a tariff-free trading partner, on our doorstep, the world's largest trading block. Or Mad Don, who has no allies only subordinates. He might cut a deal, but his word is about as reliable as Putin's.
@Lucid.dreamer People are European, not land. Reality itself can be just as elusive as your claim of being European. And of course, by your name that should be obvious.
I want to rejoin the EU & I dare say the majority of Brits would if had the option. I did my homework before the referendum & voted to remain. Brexit has caused nothing but negatives & chaos all-round.
Me too. Whilst UE has moved forward since 2016, Britain sadly seems to be stuck in reverse. Following 14 years of the most corrupt Admin in history, with the New Government apparently continuing in that vein, makes one wonder why did we bother with an election ?
Currently, the polls show that the UK is over 66% that Brexit was a mistake. What highlights this is that all the people being leave/UKIP won't talk about Brexit, claiming it is all over and the fault of "everyone else" that it hasn't worked. They have now moved on to Reform and pushing the Immigrant line.
@@willieckaslikeYou're swimming in an ocean of anti brexiters. It's only crazy anti brexiters who keep carping on about the EU. And most of us are just bemused at them.
Polls show that a majority have regretted the decision, for the last year over 60%. Polls came close to parity in mid-2019 and mid-2020, but diverged since. However, unlike voting for a government, Brexiters believe that a referendum should be forever. It was a very marginal 52% that voted for it, against a backdrop of misinformation.
@keepitreal1547 And you want freedom of movement for millions of eastern Europeans, citizens of the Baltic States and (coming soon) Albanians to have the right to come into the UK and take up jobs, housing and use the NHS?
@@DoggleBird Still talking unsubstantiated scare rubbish I see. The reality would be the opposite with Brits clamouring to go to work and live in Europe. You need to educate yourself.
@@snowman2970 "with Brits clamouring to go to work and live in Europe" - Really? Do you have evidence of that? Or did you pull that claim out of your fundament?
For those who are still in the leave party ! Have you actually researched anything? Eg. How many working Brits have had to flee many EU countries to go back to the UK & all because of the restrictions & red tape that's been put in place since Brexit. Also thousands of British youngsters that are now denied going to work & study in European countries due to Brexit. Our own daughter being one of them. Those that have kids & care for their future will want to be back in the EU asap. It's as simple as that.
The entire Remain economic case of economic disaster is looking like a busted-flush, tbh. The LSE report from a couple of weeks ago more or less put the final nail into that particular coffin. There's a reason channels like these are getting fewer and fewer views. Even the Guardian and now running articles favourable to Brexit. It's over.
@@keepitreal1547 yes my daughter can now get home from work safely as there are no social security EU migrants hanging round the street corners because they had nothing to do. Houses of a dozen of them, claiming for their children in their own country until they have enough to buy land & build a house then went back to their own country. Whereas the hard working young Polish families are still here. Grafting & enriching the community. If Cameron got what he asked for when he went to Brussels, no doubt our area would be a remain area instead of leave.
@Optimistic-101 I'd say very few remainers ever had much actual interest in Europe. It's a place for 'their' freedom of movement but that was about it. Anyone with a care to look at politics in Europe would want very high walls indeed!
Rejoin? We will not let you back in, you betrayed us, deal with the consequences. Scotland can join though.. As an independent nation. The EU is not a Hotel, it is a family.
Anybody who has followed the US election campaign and Trump during this campaign has to be very clear - absolutely anything but Trump! For the EU friends in the UK - that doesn't mean membership, as the UK will not be able to meet the basic membership conditions for some decades.
@@uweinhamburg Trump won both the presidency and the popular vote. The USA saw through the lawfare. He's due to become POTUS very soon. The UK will show due deference to the leader of the USA people. The duly elected leader. I hope he goes for another term.
YOu are exactly right. But the UK should probbaly never be allowed to join the EU, because it can't really be trusted. It still has not even met the terms of the agreement (TCA) it signed and ratified 4 year ago.
I grew up in the 50 and 60’s and England was awash with xenophobia and misplaced national pride. Ah yes mate we won the war was rhetoric found everywhere. Brexit revived these unhappy things. Good video.
@@Michael_from_EU_GermanyWon't happen Britain will not join the EU with the changing demographics of the United Kingdom it's more likely to become part of Aisa with over 3/4 of a million Indian people arriving each year the native British people will be a minority in their own country with their lives.
Joining UE will not be as easy as many think. The decision is for UE, & UE alone. There will be standards to meet that at the moment are impossible for Britain to attain. This in addition to the unanimous approval of ALL Member Countries. Many of whom have said they would not support this. Of course it would be the better option by far than becoming US State 51 of a federation with a Madman as President. But, unfortunately for Britain the least likely to happen.
This question will trigger a certain response from primarily the same people who voted to leave the EU. I suspect the result of this "referendum" will be similar. A slim majority will be in favour of something which will ultimately cause them serous harm in pursuit of attempting to cause harm to some other group. Anyone who thinks the UK is rational and pragmatic isn't reading the replies and comments on politically based RUclips channels. Although it is obvious there are also spurious comments and replies trying to drum up discord and division from all sides.
I don't think your views on the UK or anywhere else should be based on youtube comments. These channels are not representative of the population (mostly they are an echo-chamber of the like-minded and closed-minded). I can't see any circumstances in which the UK would rejoin the EU - it would take too long for a start and no party could command a poll-lead for the length of time it would take. Few in the UK want to see the 10 years of political turmoil that would entail.
@@philipcrossley1279 That we shall see. According to both the IMF and OECD it won't happen next year in comparison to France and Germany and the longer range forecasts are little different. I think looking at how all the pre-referendum economic forecasts have turned-out we probably ought to embrace humility in these things. The UK was only ever semi-detached so talk of disaster was always misplaced. It will depend on how Starmer and Reeves get on! (the best argument for EU membership was that it removed power from the British political elite!)
@Lucid.dreamer Agree it can't happen the EU is falling apart German is in decline and will fail in the near future France is now a Muslim country and destroying itself Grant Britain is much better out of this Undemocratic unelected bureaucracy stay out Britain for your own good .
Brexit has happened, we have left the EU, in accordance with the wishes of the majority who voted in the Referendum. My hope is that the UK applies to join the EU, perhaps after a referendum at some time in the future, if it is the wish of the majority of our citizens. I am yet to see any tangible benefits from being outside the EU, no rainbows or sunlit uplands unfortunately.
No you are not. Uk is porto Rico.2. Uk has absolutely nothing to say in US politics. Just like porto Rico. They just have the right to send soldiers to die in US wars. Uk has to pay for that right. Reminds me of the old song. "The yanks are laughing, the yanks are laughing".
I think this may well be true. In other words, fear and a pecuniary motive. Nothing at all to do with EU values of peace and friendship and ever closer union. With these attitudes as main drivers, it is best Britain does stay away. When Britain is read to join the EU for the right reasons, not just for commercial advantage, then it will and can happen quite fast.
Can we please explode the myth that keeps being repeated that Brexit means No EU citizen can come and live and work in the UK or vice versa. All Brexit did was remove the RIGHT to do so, and that's as it should be. Sovereign countries are entitled to decide who may enter and remain on their territories and on what terms. People like medical professionals never have a problem, nor do most scientists and graduate engineers. I lived and worked in an EU country for many years until late 2020. I could have stayed, but chose not to do so as I wanted to return to the UK to retire. I have no doubt that I would be able to do so again if I wished (my job requires NVQ Level 8 equivalent) and had a job offer. So far as the UK is concerned, Johnson promised to raise the bar for legal migration in 2019 with a points-based system. Once he had won the election, he did the precise opposite and lowered the bar. That was done deliberately to increase the UK population.
@@Ali-ps8rm about twenty minutes of study on EU pages would show you that joining the customs union is totally not possible. Norway is a EFTA country and not member of the customs union. A little bit of studying the rules of EU would do you good.
Trump is seeking to rectify asymmetric trading relationships (primarily with China and Germany). Biden did very much the same with his Chips-Act and the Inflation Reduction Act. Interesting to see how the UK's trading relationship within the EU developed after 2000 (tip, it was proportionally double that of the US/China!) UK trade deficit with EU 2000: £6.7 billion. 2005: 34.9 billion. 2010: £30.4 billion 2015: £71.4 billion 2019: £81.2 billion
As you have not been keeping up with world events for the last 6 months, you are in for one hell of a shock. Trump does not want ANY free Trade. Trump is putting tariffs on almost every country the US trades with, including the UK. The EU on the other hand is pulling in more and more free trade deals around the world. At the moment for the UK there is nothing in America's favour. In fact, the US has started to become a sinking ship.
@Lawrence4000-s3k Doesn't alter my comment. Trump thinks fair trade is having agreements in America's favour If Trump imposes tariffs what does he think will happen to American trade when counter tariffs are put on American products?
@@Lawrence4000-s3k Trump has no understanding of economics or business. Remember, he has gone bankrupt multiple times and is a criminal convicted of false accounting. Trump does not understand tariffs, either. What he has done is to screw the USA. In particular blue collar USA and i California in particular. California being one of the great wealth generators for the USA. The UK-EU trade figures are now really skewed because of NI.
@@jjsmallpiece9234 Trump is putting sanctions on countries that supply things the US needs but can't get anywhere else. These countries will respond by putting sanctions on US goods that they could get from other places, so their tariffs will be just enough to encourage people to by from anywhere but the US. the net result is costs go up in the USA and at the same time it looses export business. A double whammy. The thing is this will be permanent. No one will go back to trading with the US whilst Trump is president, and not until the next president removes all the Tariffs. It won't matter if Trump removes the tariffs because no one will trust him not to do it again.
You must join the EU as soon as you possibly can - we need each other, and it will be a clear win-win solution. Only demand - you must change to right lane driving before joining 🙂
Europe is under the thumb of the USA, but I would rejoin to get freedom of movement back. Then we could work, study, live and retire in nearly 30 countries to me that’s a great deal and we failed to value it before 2016
BY all means cooperate in Europe for defence, but only via NATO. Cooperation via the EU is ceding sovereign control of defence, security and foreign policy to EU bureaucrats. That's a big No, No No!
"BY all means cooperate in Europe for defence, but only via NATO" Not for you to decide. "Cooperation via the EU is ceding sovereign control of defence, security and foreign policy to EU bureaucrats." English nonsense. "That's a big No, No No!" Again, not for you to decide.
Exactly. The middle is the place to be. I see no reason why the British consumer should pay tariffs on Chinese cars simply to protect the German car industry. We can trade that decision with Trump for greater access to the burgeoning US market.
@@Lawrence4000-s3k you are not a businessman, are you! I have run a company that traded across the world. If the German car industry sinks, it takes the UK car industry with it. BTW name a UK car maker.
@@JAmediaUKgive it a rest. Have you actually looked at the long range forecast for the uk. We are expected to pass Germany in 2038 ( due to the over regulation of the EU. The USA & China are pulling away at a right pace. IF the EU doesn’t sort itself out sharpish it is screwed. look at the Draghi report. He was the President of the EU bank & he says they’re doomed.
@Optimistic-101 I am a company director in the industrial high-tech sector. I can see what is happening also talking to fellow C-level people I know where it is going.
The US economy is strong and growing by 3%, the eu economy is stagnant and on the brink of a long and deep recession along with political chaos in France and Germany. Of course we need to lean towards the US economically at the very least.
@@colinsmith1288 Nurse! Damn, no nurse for this pathological case, NHS broken down... Well, all that's left is to find him a tinfoil hat, that calms his crises.
Article 50 is just as vague. It says the eu and the leaving state can negotiate future relations AFTER the withdrawal which can be negotiated "bearing in mind" the potential future relationship. But I remind you that a vote to REMAIN was equally nebulous. Because it does not mean a vote for the status quo. The direction of the EU is just as nebulous. The future belongs to no man. And you are just regurgitating the same old anti brexit twaddle.
Some wrong ideas in there - the EU constitution is pretty clear and for instance $50 states: 2) A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. Talks can start before the withdrawal, as it has been with the UK. It is just necessary that a memberstate sends a notification of the intention 1) Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements. Remain has been pretty clear, it has meant a yes to the existing situation and as a part of it the approval of the EU contracts and certainly the EU founding documents. *The political project reflects the will of the EU Member States to create an ever closer union among the peoples of Europe, in which decisions are taken as openly as possible and as closely as possible to the citizen (Article 1 of the Treaty on European Union).* Change is a part of the status quo of the European Union. No change just means standstill. The term ever closer Union has to make clear that EUrope will change over time and has to, especially with new outside threats like Trump.
@uweinhamburg ROFL Change is part of the status quo! Que Sera Sera! So a vote to REMAIN was a vote for CHANGE! Well I'm sure all the REMAIN voters understood that. Whereas a vote to LEAVE was a vote for CHANGE. Which I'm sure the leave voters were too ______ (fill in your favourite pejorative) to understand.
@@uweinhamburg Don't bother quoting article 50 at me. I know it up one side and down the other. It absolutely guarantees that leaving the EU is nebulous. So to claim it is deliberate on the part of the leave campaign only serves to highlight how disingenuous anti brexiters actually are.
I am english and have lived in Germany for the last 40 years .last year i traveled to england for 6 months in my vw t4 van and i found england GREAT everything is cheaper than in the eu,petrol food was so cheap compared to the eu i might come back
We tried being in the EEC/EU for 47 years and in the end it didn't work as we were on different journies and the EU insists on one size fits all. Our realtionship with the US over a much longer period has been productive and mutually beneficial and although we daon't always agree about everything, the beauty of it is we don't have to. The US is, long term, the better partner by a country mile.
I'm not convinced we should rejoin the EU, even if we were able to. However, that said, I wish to take issue with you over your statement about our relationship with the US. Whilst you, and possibly many others may think it is, or was "productive and mutually beneficial" I listen ( and watch) many, mostly american, commentators on this platform, from whom I hope I get more honest assessments about what is going on in both Ukraine / Russia and Palestine / West Asia than I'd get elsewhere; also I get information about China and Taiwan, as well as other countries (Brics + its' enlarged membership largely) which the western msm either wouldn't give me, or give an honest opinion about. One of the sayings that comes up occasionally is the following from Henry Kissinger " To be an enemy of America is dangerous - to be a friend is lethal". They only say it because they concur. Be under no illusion; America views us as its' puppy dog. As we have seen with Nordstream they are willing to throw Europe (Germany has been particularly badly affected) and us (in case you don't like to include us in a description of Europe) under the bus, if they can benefit from it financially. In a much worse way they have been prepared to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians (maybe a million or more in reality), and cause millions of Ukrainians to leave the country - probably never to return, in a failed and unnecessary attempt to weaken Russia. That attempt has backfired spectacularly. Not only is Russia stronger than it was before - they sell their oil to china and other asian and Global south countries who want it, and it has necessitated Russia building up its' own Military Industrial Complex to the point where America, which hasn't (for whatever reason) done the same, cannot keep up with Russia. Biden is only hanging on so that Trump will have to be the president on whose watch the war is lost - but it's already lost, and has been for some time. Pres. Putin will negotiate from a position of winner's strength and America will be weakened by yet another foolish, needless war. Btw no-one, amongst all the commentators I listen to, think that Putin has any desire, or plans, to move west or has any colonial ambition; that's merely western propaganda, designed to prop up its' military industrial complex, which in turn would prevent our government from spending more money on building up stuff we actually need, like the NHS, housing, education, anti global warming technology etc. But I'm sure that won't prevent Tom Tugendhat (amongst others) clamoring for it. West Asia is much more complex, so I won't even start on that, but America is no longer the sole Hegemon, and, if our politicians knew what was good for the country (as opposed to what's good for them personally) they would not wish to be so close to America (nor, for that matter, Israel); not it's enemy - I'm not suggesting that, but I think we should be keeping more distance than we are. I was heartened by news of Rachel Reeves doing business with China; at last she's done one thing of which I can approve; business with a rising hegemon. The world is changing. The US sole Hegemony finished in 2017, the expert commentators that I listen to say so, and they're mostly americans! We shouldn't be hitching our wagon to a train that's going downhill; how fast I don't know, but we need a better solution. Whether it's going alone, or going with an admittedly corrupt, but maybe less lethal EU, or maybe something else - who knows? - not I.
The EU is the last Democracy still standing are the failing of democracy in the USA... Nations still stuck in the 1800s like the UK, we do not need...we already have Hungary to play that role.
@@jjsmallpiece9234 Trump wasn't "convicted" of any crimes against women. The only "conviction" he has is a "trumped up" (!) charge relating to incorrect election accounting - and that will likely be scrubbed when he appeals to the Supreme Court.
@@Doggle85 So you prefer a convicte criminal to be president. Those 26 women were not wrong either. Trump is unfit to be president. He should be in jail.
Who seriously sees today’s USA as anything the U.K. should aspire to ? It’s a mad house .
Likewise the EU. There's really nothing there for us.
@ Really. Which EU leader is a convicted felon, going insane ?
@@paullarnelol they aren’t equivalent in the slightest bud
@@paullarne Except a tariff-free trading partner, on our doorstep, the world's largest trading block. Or Mad Don, who has no allies only subordinates. He might cut a deal, but his word is about as reliable as Putin's.
Thank you Brendon, a good talk.
Rejoin Europe 🇪🇺 asap
@@davidroberts3280 The UK is already in Europe. It is European.
Yes www.amazon.co.uk/Rejoin-EU-Mr-Peter-Cook/dp/B0DSHBXLL1
@Lucid.dreamer People are European, not land. Reality itself can be just as elusive as your claim of being European. And of course, by your name that should be obvious.
@Lucid.dreamergeographically yes, but through ignorance a lot of people don’t see us as European
@@GenghisVern Lucid is a troll. Billy no mates. Personal ideology before all else.
I want to rejoin the EU & I dare say the majority of Brits would if had the option.
I did my homework before the referendum & voted to remain.
Brexit has caused nothing but negatives & chaos all-round.
We don't need people in the EU who only want to become members because they are going economically bankrupt.
Me too. Whilst UE has moved forward since 2016, Britain sadly seems to be stuck in reverse. Following 14 years of the most corrupt Admin in history, with the New Government apparently continuing in that vein, makes one wonder why did we bother with an election ?
Currently, the polls show that the UK is over 66% that Brexit was a mistake. What highlights this is that all the people being leave/UKIP won't talk about Brexit, claiming it is all over and the fault of "everyone else" that it hasn't worked. They have now moved on to Reform and pushing the Immigrant line.
@@willieckaslikeYou're swimming in an ocean of anti brexiters.
It's only crazy anti brexiters who keep carping on about the EU. And most of us are just bemused at them.
Polls show that a majority have regretted the decision, for the last year over 60%. Polls came close to parity in mid-2019 and mid-2020, but diverged since. However, unlike voting for a government, Brexiters believe that a referendum should be forever. It was a very marginal 52% that voted for it, against a backdrop of misinformation.
I want the younger generations to have the freedom of travel that the older generations had.
Re-join all the way.
@keepitreal1547 And you want freedom of movement for millions of eastern Europeans, citizens of the Baltic States and (coming soon) Albanians to have the right to come into the UK and take up jobs, housing and use the NHS?
@@DoggleBird Still talking unsubstantiated scare rubbish I see. The reality would be the opposite with Brits clamouring to go to work and live in Europe. You need to educate yourself.
@@DoggleBird
What absolute rubbish. Educate yourself my friend.
@@snowman2970 "with Brits clamouring to go to work and live in Europe" - Really? Do you have evidence of that? Or did you pull that claim out of your fundament?
@@DoggleBird Go mate, go! You are making my day!! EU doesn't need Brexitania, EU doesn't want Brexitania back. Thank you so much for helping EU.
There is only one answer.
Rejoin as soon as possible.
Let's say the EU disbanded, and governments allowed people to buy what they wanted to buy. Would that make trade harder or easier?
Can I recommend the videos of Richard J Murphy to all here.
Europe all the way as far as I’m concerned.
Get us back in the EU
If yes, you can longer use the currency. Either you’re part of the EU all in, or you’re not. Personally, I hope the EU never considers the UK whiners.
For those who are still in the leave party !
Have you actually researched anything?
Eg. How many working Brits have had to flee many EU countries to go back to the UK & all because of the restrictions & red tape that's been put in place since Brexit.
Also thousands of British youngsters that are now denied going to work & study in European countries due to Brexit.
Our own daughter being one of them.
Those that have kids & care for their future will want to be back in the EU asap.
It's as simple as that.
The entire Remain economic case of economic disaster is looking like a busted-flush, tbh. The LSE report from a couple of weeks ago more or less put the final nail into that particular coffin. There's a reason channels like these are getting fewer and fewer views. Even the Guardian and now running articles favourable to Brexit. It's over.
@@keepitreal1547 yes my daughter can now get home from work safely as there are no social security EU migrants hanging round the street corners because they had nothing to do. Houses of a dozen of them, claiming for their children in their own country until they have enough to buy land & build a house then went back to their own country. Whereas the hard working young Polish families are still here. Grafting & enriching the community. If Cameron got what he asked for when he went to Brussels, no doubt our area would be a remain area instead of leave.
@@Lawrence4000-s3k They want to go through life with their rose tinted glasses. Have they actually looked at how the EU is turning right wing.
@Optimistic-101 I'd say very few remainers ever had much actual interest in Europe. It's a place for 'their' freedom of movement but that was about it. Anyone with a care to look at politics in Europe would want very high walls indeed!
The referendum was flawed and should not have been binding, Cameron is a hog
Europe for ever.
Europe for ever free of Brexitania.
Rejoin? We will not let you back in, you betrayed us, deal with the consequences. Scotland can join though.. As an independent nation. The EU is not a Hotel, it is a family.
Do you have the authority to make such decisions for the whole EU, or are just expressing your hurt feelings?
Brits we're lied to. 🤔🇫🇷🇫🇷
@albertcross4275 Yes, we were lied to. Then we discovered those lies and saw the EU for what it truly is - and we voted to leave.
@@DoggleBird Exactly!
Anybody who has followed the US election campaign and Trump during this campaign has to be very clear - absolutely anything but Trump!
For the EU friends in the UK - that doesn't mean membership, as the UK will not be able to meet the basic membership conditions for some decades.
@@uweinhamburg Trump won both the presidency and the popular vote.
The USA saw through the lawfare.
He's due to become POTUS very soon.
The UK will show due deference to the leader of the USA people. The duly elected leader.
I hope he goes for another term.
YOu are exactly right. But the UK should probbaly never be allowed to join the EU, because it can't really be trusted. It still has not even met the terms of the agreement (TCA) it signed and ratified 4 year ago.
Rejoin you know it makes sense.
It never made sense all the time we were in it.
I grew up in the 50 and 60’s and England was awash with xenophobia and misplaced national pride. Ah yes mate we won the war was rhetoric found everywhere. Brexit revived these unhappy things. Good video.
Uk lost the war. It was the biggest looser of all nations including Germany.
I hope you choose europe over America
I'd have thought 47 years of EEC/EU membership was enough.
Europe With Uk No Win America no no no
Trump can do one
We should never have left the EU so need to rejoin asap
It takes decades from the date of application for membership to the date of joining.
@@Michael_from_EU_GermanyWon't happen Britain will not join the EU with the changing demographics of the United Kingdom it's more likely to become part of Aisa with over 3/4 of a million Indian people arriving each year the native British people will be a minority in their own country with their lives.
@@Michael_from_EU_Germany David Gunn wants it ASAP... can we consider 35 years as "ASAP"?
@@Brexitopia The UK state deficit to under 60% in just 35 years? Ambitious. Very ambitious.
@@Michael_from_EU_Germany Love to read from an educated person like you... so not "ASAP" then 😄
So sorry David...
Keep up the good work!
BREXIT = UK ECONOMY COLLAPSE
It was always only about the economy for uk. Better you stay out than ruining our union.
Europe.
Joining UE will not be as easy as many think. The decision is for UE, & UE alone. There will be standards to meet that at the moment are impossible for Britain to attain. This in addition to the unanimous approval of ALL Member Countries. Many of whom have said they would not support this. Of course it would be the better option by far than becoming US State 51 of a federation with a Madman as President. But, unfortunately for Britain the least likely to happen.
Millions were tricked sadly into thinking that voting “out” would maintain the status quo.
Rejoin the EU NOW!
This question will trigger a certain response from primarily the same people who voted to leave the EU. I suspect the result of this "referendum" will be similar. A slim majority will be in favour of something which will ultimately cause them serous harm in pursuit of attempting to cause harm to some other group.
Anyone who thinks the UK is rational and pragmatic isn't reading the replies and comments on politically based RUclips channels.
Although it is obvious there are also spurious comments and replies trying to drum up discord and division from all sides.
I don't think your views on the UK or anywhere else should be based on youtube comments. These channels are not representative of the population (mostly they are an echo-chamber of the like-minded and closed-minded).
I can't see any circumstances in which the UK would rejoin the EU - it would take too long for a start and no party could command a poll-lead for the length of time it would take. Few in the UK want to see the 10 years of political turmoil that would entail.
@Lawrence4000-s3k I agree.
People in the UK would rather see their living standards and financial security diminish over ten years.
@@philipcrossley1279 That we shall see.
According to both the IMF and OECD it won't happen next year in comparison to France and Germany and the longer range forecasts are little different.
I think looking at how all the pre-referendum economic forecasts have turned-out we probably ought to embrace humility in these things. The UK was only ever semi-detached so talk of disaster was always misplaced.
It will depend on how Starmer and Reeves get on! (the best argument for EU membership was that it removed power from the British political elite!)
Hope brexit is reversed
Never going to happen
@thomasmcmahon1263 Brexit is irreversible, thankfully.
@Doggle85 Absolutely. Yet you still see anti brexiters chiming in about "reversing brexit".
@Lucid.dreamer Agree it can't happen the EU is falling apart German is in decline and will fail in the near future France is now a Muslim country and destroying itself Grant Britain is much better out of this Undemocratic unelected bureaucracy stay out Britain for your own good .
Brexit has happened, we have left the EU, in accordance with the wishes of the majority who voted in the Referendum. My hope is that the UK applies to join the EU, perhaps after a referendum at some time in the future, if it is the wish of the majority of our citizens. I am yet to see any tangible benefits from being outside the EU, no rainbows or sunlit uplands unfortunately.
Europe!
we are in effect the 51st state, we cant survive in isolation,
No you are not. Uk is porto Rico.2. Uk has absolutely nothing to say in US politics. Just like porto Rico. They just have the right to send soldiers to die in US wars. Uk has to pay for that right. Reminds me of the old song. "The yanks are laughing, the yanks are laughing".
Yes. Yes. Yes.
Uk is not united anymore
i think 2 things will push us back to europe , trump and the worsening financial slump / recession this country is facing
I think this may well be true. In other words, fear and a pecuniary motive. Nothing at all to do with EU values of peace and friendship and ever closer union. With these attitudes as main drivers, it is best Britain does stay away. When Britain is read to join the EU for the right reasons, not just for commercial advantage, then it will and can happen quite fast.
I want to rejoin so i can leave this dump
Can we please explode the myth that keeps being repeated that Brexit means No EU citizen can come and live and work in the UK or vice versa. All Brexit did was remove the RIGHT to do so, and that's as it should be. Sovereign countries are entitled to decide who may enter and remain on their territories and on what terms. People like medical professionals never have a problem, nor do most scientists and graduate engineers. I lived and worked in an EU country for many years until late 2020. I could have stayed, but chose not to do so as I wanted to return to the UK to retire. I have no doubt that I would be able to do so again if I wished (my job requires NVQ Level 8 equivalent) and had a job offer. So far as the UK is concerned, Johnson promised to raise the bar for legal migration in 2019 with a points-based system. Once he had won the election, he did the precise opposite and lowered the bar. That was done deliberately to increase the UK population.
Let Canada in as well
Europe! Europe! Europe! Europe! Europe! Europe! Europe! Europe..... I could go on.
Please do... CTRL C CTRL V and... done.🤣
@@Brexitopia Oh look, an 8 year-old who can only communicate with pictures, how quaint.
❤🇬🇧🇪🇺 I am a fan of UK and lived and worked in the UK 25 years ago (me being 🇩🇪). Would be happy to show the world we are strong
Unfortunately, I don’t think the EU would want us back - and who could blame them? Perhaps rejoining the customs union might be possible eventually.
It’s up is to persuade them that they should want us back!
@@Ali-ps8rm about twenty minutes of study on EU pages would show you that joining the customs union is totally not possible. Norway is a EFTA country and not member of the customs union. A little bit of studying the rules of EU would do you good.
Looks like Canada is going to race you for that last chair at the EU. Our schizophrenic trading partner to the south is at it again.
TRUMP BUT GB STANDS IF YOU CANNOT STANT ALONE YOU ARE NOTHING
Trump like free trade so long as the trade rules are in Americas favour
Trump is seeking to rectify asymmetric trading relationships (primarily with China and Germany). Biden did very much the same with his Chips-Act and the Inflation Reduction Act.
Interesting to see how the UK's trading relationship within the EU developed after 2000 (tip, it was proportionally double that of the US/China!)
UK trade deficit with EU
2000: £6.7 billion.
2005: 34.9 billion.
2010: £30.4 billion
2015: £71.4 billion
2019: £81.2 billion
As you have not been keeping up with world events for the last 6 months, you are in for one hell of a shock. Trump does not want ANY free Trade. Trump is putting tariffs on almost every country the US trades with, including the UK. The EU on the other hand is pulling in more and more free trade deals around the world. At the moment for the UK there is nothing in America's favour. In fact, the US has started to become a sinking ship.
@Lawrence4000-s3k Doesn't alter my comment. Trump thinks fair trade is having agreements in America's favour
If Trump imposes tariffs what does he think will happen to American trade when counter tariffs are put on American products?
@@Lawrence4000-s3k Trump has no understanding of economics or business. Remember, he has gone bankrupt multiple times and is a criminal convicted of false accounting. Trump does not understand tariffs, either. What he has done is to screw the USA. In particular blue collar USA and i California in particular. California being one of the great wealth generators for the USA. The UK-EU trade figures are now really skewed because of NI.
@@jjsmallpiece9234 Trump is putting sanctions on countries that supply things the US needs but can't get anywhere else. These countries will respond by putting sanctions on US goods that they could get from other places, so their tariffs will be just enough to encourage people to by from anywhere but the US. the net result is costs go up in the USA and at the same time it looses export business. A double whammy. The thing is this will be permanent. No one will go back to trading with the US whilst Trump is president, and not until the next president removes all the Tariffs. It won't matter if Trump removes the tariffs because no one will trust him not to do it again.
The title is disingenuous. As if there are only two options.
I want the EU, and then we should all hold talks with Russia and China it's time to pull away from America and constant proxy wars.
@@neil5877 nice try, Igor. But no cigar.
You must join the EU as soon as you possibly can - we need each other, and it will be a clear win-win solution. Only demand - you must change to right lane driving before joining 🙂
Trump
Europe is under the thumb of the USA, but I would rejoin to get freedom of movement back. Then we could work, study, live and retire in nearly 30 countries to me that’s a great deal and we failed to value it before 2016
Neither.
BY all means cooperate in Europe for defence, but only via NATO. Cooperation via the EU is ceding sovereign control of defence, security and foreign policy to EU bureaucrats. That's a big No, No No!
"BY all means cooperate in Europe for defence, but only via NATO"
Not for you to decide.
"Cooperation via the EU is ceding sovereign control of defence, security and foreign policy to EU bureaucrats."
English nonsense.
"That's a big No, No No!"
Again, not for you to decide.
@@ab-ym3bf Do you understand what EU Defence Union and the PESCO agreements that go with it, does?
We should be forming closer economic ties with Canada, Australia, NZ and USA.
Indeed, and others. Only 6% of humanity lives in the EU. Far from being the be all and end all.......
All the above USA would be a disaster for your country
Both, stay on our own.
The UK on its own is screwed. We have become a rule taker and can't set any agendas and have virtually no imfluence anywhere now.
Exactly. The middle is the place to be. I see no reason why the British consumer should pay tariffs on Chinese cars simply to protect the German car industry. We can trade that decision with Trump for greater access to the burgeoning US market.
@@Lawrence4000-s3k you are not a businessman, are you! I have run a company that traded across the world. If the German car industry sinks, it takes the UK car industry with it. BTW name a UK car maker.
@@JAmediaUKgive it a rest. Have you actually looked at the long range forecast for the uk. We are expected to pass Germany in 2038 ( due to the over regulation of the EU. The USA & China are pulling away at a right pace. IF the EU doesn’t sort itself out sharpish it is screwed. look at the Draghi report. He was the President of the EU bank & he says they’re doomed.
@Optimistic-101 I am a company director in the industrial high-tech sector. I can see what is happening also talking to fellow C-level people I know where it is going.
Not much interest in Europe is there Rejoin has not got a great following less than 4 thousand following enough said.
The US economy is strong and growing by 3%, the eu economy is stagnant and on the brink of a long and deep recession along with political chaos in France and Germany. Of course we need to lean towards the US economically at the very least.
Thank you dude! You are a vivid example why EU should never again let Brexitania back. Sincere thanks from EU!
@@Brexitopial agree. The eu is becoming a train wreck.
@@colinsmith1288 Did someone ring you?
@Brexitopia let me see. A holiday in the prison colony of the eu or a lovely trip to Sant Lucia in the carribean. Hard choice that.!
@@colinsmith1288 Nurse! Damn, no nurse for this pathological case, NHS broken down... Well, all that's left is to find him a tinfoil hat, that calms his crises.
Is that a serious question? Trump or Europe?? Eejits prefer Trump. What a shame there are millions of eejits.
Article 50 is just as vague.
It says the eu and the leaving state can negotiate future relations AFTER the withdrawal which can be negotiated "bearing in mind" the potential future relationship.
But I remind you that a vote to REMAIN was equally nebulous. Because it does not mean a vote for the status quo. The direction of the EU is just as nebulous.
The future belongs to no man.
And you are just regurgitating the same old anti brexit twaddle.
why are you against freedom of speech?
@p_ness Why are you against ice-cream?
Some wrong ideas in there - the EU constitution is pretty clear and for instance $50 states:
2) A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union.
Talks can start before the withdrawal, as it has been with the UK. It is just necessary that a memberstate sends a notification of the intention
1) Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.
Remain has been pretty clear, it has meant a yes to the existing situation and as a part of it the approval of the EU contracts and certainly the EU founding documents.
*The political project reflects the will of the EU Member States to create an ever closer union among the peoples of Europe, in which decisions are taken as openly as possible and as closely as possible to the citizen (Article 1 of the Treaty on European Union).*
Change is a part of the status quo of the European Union. No change just means standstill.
The term ever closer Union has to make clear that EUrope will change over time and has to, especially with new outside threats like Trump.
@uweinhamburg ROFL
Change is part of the status quo!
Que Sera Sera!
So a vote to REMAIN was a vote for CHANGE!
Well I'm sure all the REMAIN voters understood that.
Whereas a vote to LEAVE was a vote for CHANGE. Which I'm sure the leave voters were too ______ (fill in your favourite pejorative) to understand.
@@uweinhamburg Don't bother quoting article 50 at me. I know it up one side and down the other.
It absolutely guarantees that leaving the EU is nebulous. So to claim it is deliberate on the part of the leave campaign only serves to highlight how disingenuous anti brexiters actually are.
Trump 100%
Eff the EU...
Trump 100% actually means eff the UK as that’s the ultimate result. Do switch on your 3rd braincell.
I am english and have lived in Germany for the last 40 years .last year i traveled to england for 6 months in my vw t4 van and i found england GREAT everything is cheaper than in the eu,petrol food was so cheap compared to the eu i might come back
lol And so were the wages?
We tried being in the EEC/EU for 47 years and in the end it didn't work as we were on different journies and the EU insists on one size fits all. Our realtionship with the US over a much longer period has been productive and mutually beneficial and although we daon't always agree about everything, the beauty of it is we don't have to.
The US is, long term, the better partner by a country mile.
Aren't you European after all?
I'm not convinced we should rejoin the EU, even if we were able to. However, that said, I wish to take issue with you over your statement about our relationship with the US. Whilst you, and possibly many others may think it is, or was "productive and mutually beneficial" I listen ( and watch) many, mostly american, commentators on this platform, from whom I hope I get more honest assessments about what is going on in both Ukraine / Russia and Palestine / West Asia than I'd get elsewhere; also I get information about China and Taiwan, as well as other countries (Brics + its' enlarged membership largely) which the western msm either wouldn't give me, or give an honest opinion about.
One of the sayings that comes up occasionally is the following from Henry Kissinger " To be an enemy of America is dangerous - to be a friend is lethal". They only say it because they concur. Be under no illusion; America views us as its' puppy dog. As we have seen with Nordstream they are willing to throw Europe (Germany has been particularly badly affected) and us (in case you don't like to include us in a description of Europe) under the bus, if they can benefit from it financially. In a much worse way they have been prepared to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians (maybe a million or more in reality), and cause millions of Ukrainians to leave the country - probably never to return, in a failed and unnecessary attempt to weaken Russia. That attempt has backfired spectacularly.
Not only is Russia stronger than it was before - they sell their oil to china and other asian and Global south countries who want it, and it has necessitated Russia building up its' own Military Industrial Complex to the point where America, which hasn't (for whatever reason) done the same, cannot keep up with Russia. Biden is only hanging on so that Trump will have to be the president on whose watch the war is lost - but it's already lost, and has been for some time. Pres. Putin will negotiate from a position of winner's strength and America will be weakened by yet another foolish, needless war. Btw no-one, amongst all the commentators I listen to, think that Putin has any desire, or plans, to move west or has any colonial ambition; that's merely western propaganda, designed to prop up its' military industrial complex, which in turn would prevent our government from spending more money on building up stuff we actually need, like the NHS, housing, education, anti global warming technology etc. But I'm sure that won't prevent Tom Tugendhat (amongst others) clamoring for it.
West Asia is much more complex, so I won't even start on that, but America is no longer the sole Hegemon, and, if our politicians knew what was good for the country (as opposed to what's good for them personally) they would not wish to be so close to America (nor, for that matter, Israel); not it's enemy - I'm not suggesting that, but I think we should be keeping more distance than we are. I was heartened by news of Rachel Reeves doing business with China; at last she's done one thing of which I can approve; business with a rising hegemon. The world is changing. The US sole Hegemony finished in 2017, the expert commentators that I listen to say so, and they're mostly americans! We shouldn't be hitching our wagon to a train that's going downhill; how fast I don't know, but we need a better solution. Whether it's going alone, or going with an admittedly corrupt, but maybe less lethal EU, or maybe something else - who knows? - not I.
"the EU insists on one size fits all." The EU IS ITS MEMBER STATES,
No to rejoining. We should partner America
Europe is demographically finished
Quite so. We should build diverse partnerships outside the EU - which is what we're doing!
The EU is the last Democracy still standing are the failing of democracy in the USA... Nations still stuck in the 1800s like the UK, we do not need...we already have Hungary to play that role.
Mr Starmer wants to make something work that failed at begging.
We want a british Trump ! We want Farage !!! ROFL
Tromp
"Do you want Trump or Europe?" I'll go with President Trump rather than the ghastly Brussels Mafia, thanks.
Funny you prefer a convicted criminal as president. Those 26 women weren't wrong about him.
@@jjsmallpiece9234 Trump wasn't "convicted" of any crimes against women. The only "conviction" he has is a "trumped up" (!) charge relating to incorrect election accounting - and that will likely be scrubbed when he appeals to the Supreme Court.
Always surprised how subtle and shrewed points can be brought forward.
@@Doggle85 So you prefer a convicte criminal to be president. Those 26 women were not wrong either.
Trump is unfit to be president. He should be in jail.
Thank you mate! EU is grateful for your statement, as EU doesn't want Brexitania back, never!
REJOIN EU