Not going to accept garbage orders. My time is valuable. My car is valuable. These platforms shouldn't even allow low-ball tip/zero tip orders...shouldn't even allow that order to go through at all. But greed is a powerful thing and they let them go through and hope newbies will pick them up.
Jacob Warren 💯 Also notice more crappy orders (Declines up) and rest.slow dragging dashers on wait times in my area (GA) (Unassigned up) now trying to dangle a carrot in front of us with this pilot program . Stay in my same mode nothing under six bucks and shooting for $2 a mile . I not DD Pay my gas insurance and car wear and tear . Have a good day
This company is killing me. Why don't they just charge the customers more for longer orders? Back in the day pizza stores would have a mileage limit for deliveries, if you lived outside the limit, no delivery. Doordash should tell people that if they're more than 5 miles away, then they need to pay a surcharge. This is a no-brainer. Orders like $10 for 15 miles shouldn't even be legal.
Well DoorDash does charge more for longer distance to customers. But that amount doesn’t go to us dashers. And because of that customers when they see the last thing which is to tip they have already paid so much in fees to where they think DoorDash is giving us dashers the money for it.
Since we are SUPPOSED to be Independent Contractors, this means that technically, DD is charging a delivery fee in our stead so with that in mind .... why isn't DD passing the entire delivery fee onto the drivers?
I'm platinum , with 70% acceptance rate I log in at rush hour supposedly I have priorities for high paying order , let me tell you a fact the algorithm is going to send me the worst of the order , cuz if I decline it im going doeb silver , this system serves only doordssh , with cherypicking i used to make 200 a day easy with acceptabce rate as low as 5 % now i barely do 100 per day
I don’t understand how your rating is so low and you still get any orders. Must be the market. I don’t accept no tip orders and even decline tipped orders if I don’t want to go that direction. I’ve never dropped below 54%ar
@@Supersquishyawesomeness Interesting fact: I'm a top dasher and despite being told that I get the most priority on orders if my percent drops under 70% the number of orders I get is far fewer. I was curious to know what would happen in this situation and found out.
DoorDash will try any and everything before they would ever think of raising base pay 😂😂 all these tiers and programs when having an approximate $4-$5 base pay would eliminate so many issues for them. It’s not like they don’t make a killing in all the fees that the driver gets no part of. I think a higher base pay would solve most issues for them. How about throw the drivers a couple more $ and stop trying to deceive drivers with all their number games 😅
Even if you become top dasher, you have to still do crap orders to keep the rating so to me, it’s not worth it at all. If they guarantee you NO bad orders, then I would care about my AR. DD is the only app that does this crap it’s annoying
In India the delivery app must actually pay a fair wage to the drivers, because we tipped every time, and all the drivers were shocked to be getting a tip.
now there are a lot of migrants who buy accounts from hackers, they should be banned permanently! they buy new accounts when their account is blocked. to get around the lock they wear wigs, mustaches, etc. to confuse camera verification
Us drivers have more power than you think. Nobodys going to take low paying orders eventually the cost of inflation and gas prices wont justify doing this at all. Doordash would be the ones who suffer as we the people will movevon to other platforms. Supply and demand.
Reached Platinum status.... even had 100% acceptance rate for a day and most offers are still $3-$4. How are these levels worth it when nothing changes with the offers?!
Door Dash makes changes that helps them, not you. I've pretty much given up on DD. Between the app glitches and them basically forcing you to have 70% or higher accept rate in order to get good orders. 90% of the orders they send me are not really profitable from a drivers perspective. Sure 6$ to go 5 miles is ok, until you have to drive 5 miles back to town to get your next order.... Door Dash has been riding the ignorant drivers to take the trash. Wouldn't have any trash offers if door dash charged 1$ per mile from location as delivery fee and it goes to the dasher. They could remove the fee if the order total was over certain amount and decent tip was left. But seriously if you live 10 miles out and order a single fast food combo and tip $2 even if its 20% ain't no one going to bring your food to you for 4.50 if you have to drive 10 miles there and likely 10 miles back. I remember when base pay was 7$ lol, Won't be long until enough DD drivers have had enough and either leave the platform or organize a drivers strike.
Yeah. I’m happy to be doing CDL school in Phoenix here shortly just to get out of the full time gig work. I will be doing it part time possibly afterwards but I won’t be counting on gigs at all.
@@dannytennial5311 exactly I got so far behind on my bills and that doesn’t even count gas or maintenance on your vehicle. I actually went back to a W-2 job doing Landscape what I used to do all these people wanted freedom and I do agree it is nice to work your own schedule and be your own boss but when you have problems paying your bills, it’s another story
I am not accepting garbage like the $5 for 9.6 miles I rejected last night to a dead zone which means nearly 20 miles roundvtrip. At 15mpg, I'd spend almost $4 in gas to do that. Oh hell no!
Lipstick on a pig! All of that will not make the take home bottom line any better! What happens down the road? Well Leopards don't change their spots. Give it a while. What this will do is eventually bring in government regulation which I am not in favor of, but sometimes things just have to be allowed to happen!
In my market Doordash is garbage. On average Uber Eats is paying me $4.90 more per delivery. I always focus on Uber Eats and cherry pick Doordash orders if it is slow.
Incorrect - the schedule you referred to that drops at 3 PM is the early access scheduling so if you're in a market where you can't dash unless you schedule 6 days out, you're screwed if you don't have at least a 50% acceptance rate. DD knows this and they're weeding out the cherry pickers for drivers with employee mindset. So if you don't want to maintain a 50% acceptance rate and in an over saturated market where you need to schedule six days out, you won't be able to work.
That’s a good correction. Currently if you have a 95% completion rate and a few other stats you can schedule early, but I guess they want to take that away from me
@@PhoenixDeliveriesyeah this is what scares me the most. All my stats are excellent except AR, around 20. I tried the 50% thing and it just tore my car up super fast and I used twice the gas as usual. I’m good on that. I guess if I can’t schedule then I’ll have to go to an area where Uber is a little busier. I wish DD was like Uber - no zones, sign on whenever, just work!
I’ve been top dasher for the past year. I can tell you that the pay and mileage is significantly different compared to not being top dasher. With top dasher I average about 25-30 dollars per hr. Not to mention I’m in an area that doesn’t really have high paying tips. I still average 25-30 dollars per hr. Instead of being focused on the dollar amount pay attention to the miles. I accept 4 and 5 dollar orders but only if the miles are significantly low. 5 dollar order the maximum miles I’m traveling is 2.5 miles. Keep the miles low and money high and you will see a difference! 😊
I get a ton of orders that go from the south side of South Mountain to the north side. Takes me out of the zone so I don’t get any orders, or very few till I make it back. And then there is the few apartments that I refuse to deliver to that are just a pain. Will make it nearly impossible to get to 50% let alone 70%. Guess we will see.
I guess the thinking would be you wouldn't have to see those bad orders ever again once you hit 50% but I right now I don't think that would be the case
I tested out 70 percent AR for 3 months. Trust me they will keep sending u the negative offers. The whole system is a scam to guilt drivers Into taking bad offers
Yep DD is FOS. The last week I've been on they've offered me 3 orders. Each was $2.50 for 10 miles and $4.50 for 13 miles. I was like ya gotta be smoking. What people are taking these orders. And I have a 60% acceptance rating.
My guess is that they did this in response to people accepting every order for 3-4 days before the end of the month to get Top Dasher (for the next month), and then cherrypicking most of the next month. This new program works on a "rolling" 30-day schedule. They obviously knew that people were abusing the system, and it was only a matter of time before they corrected it.
Except cherry picking died on March 1, 2023 when they rolled out the Punishment Program ... oh wait I mean Incentive Program. They said that you needed to be 50% AR or better to get access to higher paying orders and I can tell you from experience it is 70% AR not 50 as if you are below 70% AR right now, you are taking long naps in a parking lot somewhere waiting to get orders. DD won't send you squat. This is why they intentionally flooded each market with drivers prior to release of the program because it is the only way it works having plenty of drivers in the area to route orders to. So the plan of cherry picking until the last few days of the month won't work anyways. No need to fix what you can't do.
Good video! I agree with you on the possible new changes for DoorDash. DoorDash is going try to get newbie’s and earn by time driver’s to accept these bad orders in for them to get delivered. Also, stacking a good paying order with a bad paying and not showing the amounts to get these orders delivered is another way DoorDash is trying cut cost and make a profit.
Yep. Stacks are out for me. It's always one decent with one pure shitz order. I'll look at add-ons and single trips only. But now it's basically all trash anyway. I rarely ever turn it on, if only to take a peak. I have been so disappointed with DD in 2023, I've added them to dead and stinking list. It's over in my market.
@Rogue Investor It really is not that simple for me. Last stack that pissed me off to the moon was 8 miles. I deliver the first order in 2 miles (where all the money was at), then I see clearly I'm gonna drive 6 miles to get the last $2.00. I hit the fuxn roof. That's was it. I wanted to throw the shitz out the window. No more of that action for me.
I will let you know that when top Dasher was still a thing I actually was able to maintain having everything I needed to be top dasher while still declining a lot of orders. My issue now is that now that I finally got reinstated on Doordash it just seems impossible to get any orders down even though I'm at gold level right now. I'm hoping that will change when I am more consistently working in my target area which basically requires scheduling a week in advance or else you just can't really get any hours there because it's always so full of people and so full of orders but that target area is always so busy that it's the only way to really consistently make money to get to the point of actually getting to Platinum level by doing enough deliveries
It's gotten much slower in. North Texas. I take most orders , I have a 90 % acceptance rate. I refuse to schedule, In busier markets, you can take all high paying order. And that's great.
Uber eats has already been doing this, I'm a diamond driver, with 76% acceptance rate, and a 96% customer satisfaction. And I still barely make anything. The market is just saturated with drivers.
Between this and the instacart update I just posted a video about, gig apps are changing too fast 😭 I remember when the biggest update would just be a different design of the “dash now” button 😂
fast forward 10 months later and I'm platinum level and I'm killing it… My stats are Acceptance rate… 96% completion rate… 100% customer rating… 4.95 on time… 95% 440 lifetime deliveries
I can’t stand seeing Dashers with no bags and see their orders sit on the shelf when I’m early and have to wait with a hot/cold bag. I know some Dashers with higher metrics than me and they don’t use bags and are late always! Doordash doesn’t care. I care for the customers food and quick delivery.
The bag doesn't mean much on the walk to the car. What is it that, 20 seconds? My orders go in a big ice chest that is insulated to keep hot things hot. For cold, I have ice in another ice chest. But I started using the obscenely large doordash bag Pizza Hut gave me. It immediately identifies me as the driver, & I get faster service from the employees. Some places, everyone must wait in the same line including drivers. Sometimes when I walk in those places I immediately get called to the front while the other drivers wait with no bag. So it is definitely valuable. My cold food arrives cold & hot arrives hot. But the bag has made my job better by giving me better service.
@@rodblues6832 I do for the food as well as being sanitary. I was talking with a hostess girl today at a restaurant and she said she hardly ever sees drivers with a bag. I actually said they might have one in car. Either way. I’m glad you are a doing well!
Above safety or money in drivers pockets DD number one & 2 concerns are completion & acceptance. They dont care if you 50 miles for a dollar and your car over heats as long as that food gets delievered on time.
Me too. I've been in it since March and have had 3 total... But two of them were just regular large meals and paid regular amounts like any other order. Only 1 in that many months was actually a real big order that paid in the mid 30 dollars.
This is going to cause a mass exodus because there’s no way that part time drivers are going to really survive The worst thing that DoorDash has done to their workers is introducing the high pay program and now this tiered system is going to ruin the income of most drivers It’s shit like this that makes me happy that I do spark instead
I am looking for part time work, seems Wal Mart will have to do and ride shares are close to 100% dead. The gas prices and high income tax rate, why bother?
The rolling 100 deliveries over 30 days requirement is not good at all. If you miss a couple of days or even one day you have to play catchup. Guess what? You have to play catchup without being able to schedule freely. 😂 Squeezing out the part timers. All my stats look great except for the delivery numbers.
Being as 90 percent of offers sent to me are 10 miles to 20 mile deliveries or 2.25 to 3.50 for anywhere from 2 miles to 20 miles. Usually 5 or 7 miles. How could I possibly have a chance of getting better orders. Even if I did I'd have to accept super bad reduction orders.. I'm sorry but my vehicle is not expendable.. They are not helping me when my repair bills come nor providing a rental..Nor care if I end up with no vehicle any more...No how about the person ordering from another state or 10 to 20 miles away refine them to being only able to order from restaurants that are in their area..why when their are plenty close to them are they allowing folks to order from far away..nonsense it's a disfavor to both driver and customer it has to stop..I'll never achieve good acceptance rate but yet others where orders are better in their area can achieve this much easier I call this prejudicial and unfair probably illegally so. It's not equal to all. Mostly poor depressed areas will see this the most.
Im starting to think people look at doordash more than just a gig damn i didnt think it was this many problems people was having. I be making bank. But its supplemental income for me. Ive never not been top dasher 5.0 customer rating, accept rate never drops below 90% completion rate nevwr been below 100%. And i do get the small orders but if the milage equals up to the $ amount thats it.
This is unskilled labor, the supply is Infinity. They will never run out of new drivers applying. It is in their best interest to have high turnover rate. Once drivers understand the game & start playing for their own best interests, their utility to the company begins to drop. Everyone who needed to get rich off these apps is rich, the founders, the VC's, the friend of a friend. They are under no obligation to keep these vast money losing machines going. They all lose money & have never turned a profit. There is no "when things get better", each batch of new drivers works for less than the one before, have you noticed that? The bottom is somewhere around 70-80 cents a mile, & they will get there. If they should cease & desist who cares, they all got super rich, not their problem to solve.
You need to update this video now that it has dropped in more markets... for one in my market, the early scheduling at 3 has gone away unless you keep a 50% ar... now you have to wait until 12am and by then those time slots are gone.
100 deliveries in a rolling 30 days is only 3.33 per day, so if you do a lowly 2 per hour it's only an average of 1.6 hours a day, or basically 12 hours a week. This program is also rolling in early access scheduling to AR, which has never been included in the past. If youbdon't have the AR you will either have to wake up at midnight and maybe get leftovers or just rely on zones going red. This is going to be terrible in smaller markets.
Great to run into you again the other night at Cheesecake factory :) Cheers! Keep the vid's coming I hope that tiered system does not come to Arizona. We both would be screwed since we are in the large order program. I rarely ever get uber eats offers anymore. But when I go, they turn out to be $30 or higher. Still not even breaking $300 per week on uber eats working 7 nights a week.
I love my DD ya'll but try spark, it is on fire for me. I only use these apps as secondary income. I am fortunate enough to have state retirement from being a medic for 30 years.
Ill make sure that i rate all 4s and increase completions, but i only tip after the delivery - some of the dashers leave your food ANYWHERE. Im not tipping that poor service
@@michaelbell75 It's not going to solve Doordash's problem. SOMEBODY still has to take those $2 orders. If the "platinum" drivers are forced to then they'll leave, too.
I’m pretty sure the 3 pm schedule drop is early access. Based on your vid’s I’d say you easily qualify for it. If that’s true, you will not be able to continue this way.
Just checked the current requirements and I believe you're correct. Here's what DoorDash says, "You qualify if you have a Customer Rating of at least 4.6, a Completion Rate of at least 95%, and have accepted and completed at least 500 lifetime deliveries on the DoorDash platform"
@@PhoenixDeliveries I lost access to this one week because I didn’t compete 5 deliveries in the previous week. This caused me to have to wake up at midnight to schedule dashes(there were not a lot of schedule spots in my market). This is prob the biggest deal with the new programs. A lot of markets will force you to qualify for any sort of consistent access to dashing.
@@lebronzebrain1479question. I currently have the early access too but will lose it with this new program, I don’t make money if I take 50%. I don’t mind midnight, I am a night shifter anyway, so I’m awake then. But how many days out do you have access to on regular schedule?
The program is bullshit because at the end of the day, the customer is footing the bill with tips. People don't want to high tip when the food is already double the price from the actual menu. It's fucked all around
A thing that makes it SLIGHTLY better here in Australia (for the lower orders covering a bit of distance ) we have small diesel cars. hatchbacks and sedans, wagons,, loads of diesel cars, we are big on diesel over here, i have a ford mondeo wagon diesel, which i think is called a fusion in USA, not sure!. Ive converted my metric stats into USA for you. So i get around 530 miles to an 18 gallon tank of diesel. thats in town driving, i get more when i drive open roads. i have been accepting all orders after knocking a few back the other week. im 5 star, 92% acceptance, 100% completion, 98% early or ontime,, 97 deliveries so far. im going for that platinum!. back to my point, having a small diesel car is a giant plus to have as a dasher. along side electric i guess!
It really only affects the people who were using this as a job to support themselves and maybe a family. I have only me and my dogs, and I’m about to move into my car for about 6 months and I’m gonna save up as much as I can. And I live in Lubbock. As far of how it works, yes, you do have to accept a lot of crap orders to move up but once you get there, it’s money. Because you can dash whenever and don’t have to schedule at all in Platinum. Gold you can go out whenever it’s busy or when they have promos going on. Depending on busy it is and which tier you’re in. In Platinum you can clear $30-$40 an hour doing this. If it’s not busy still $15-$25 an hour. Gold you might have to schedule in advance for the slower times or, like say, dash now when it’s busy. But i have only me and my dogs so it doesn’t take much for me to make it from day to day. That’s all I need is day to day.
I would look at the DashMart delivery opportunity if you have it in your area. One batch could significantly increase your AR. If your looking for a less stressful way to boost your stats!
@@jacquelinerothschild1992 they have batches that come down similar to Amazon flex that they pay by the batch. I saw a video on the Long Island Dash Experience channel last week. They don’t pay well per order, but if you need a boost quickly it is a better way than gambling on the low tip or no tip orders and possibly getting contract violations!
The day that the majority of us "independent contractors" collectively commit to declining all trash offers is the day the offers will get better. "You have to stand for something..."
I'd love to know what criteria is used to offer a dasher the large order program. I've been a top dasher for about six months and haven't seen anything about this.
Yeah, DoorDash is over it’s junk you don’t make any money even if you do it part time you’re spending more money on gas oil changes, tires brakes and possibly get into a car accident and if you don’t have business insurance on your policy you’re up shits creek buddy so yeah, I think DoorDash is completely over. People don’t want to tip because people are a broke. Customers are starting to find out going back to the stores are way cheaper. Just for example my wife wanted to do Instacart the other day she would’ve spent $200 if I wouldn’t have went to the store and got all of our stuff didn’t even come close to spending $200
Even as someone who dashes people complaining about no tip orders ext be mad at doordash not the customers. DD can pay 5 dollars plus base pay and shown they can with "promos"
Im in the large order program and have priority access. About 80 percent acceptance rate. If im getting bad orders i know something is off with the app , ill work the next day ill start getting good orders again.
Of course your always available you take barely any orders. The schedule for my market is gobbled up by top dashers to prevent people like from getting on schedule. We have easily 10 dashers at a given time in our small area.
What happens if you change to a zone out of that market/zone? Or if you drive into one? (I’m planning a trip through Texas in August, but was planning on staying south) Maybe I should check this out. I’m top dasher so should be platinum. And I’m in LOP.
It'll backfire. Everybody knows you can't make money unless you decline lots and lots of orders, and since the company refuses to be reasonable and charge customers more per mile for longer mileage orders, people will still continue to decline lots of orders and nobody will ever make it to platinum.
They need to let dashers dash anytime regardless. I lost my status of dashing anytime last year and simply cannot get it back up unless I accept literally every single $2.50 order they throw at me
I’m in Lubbock it actually works really well here. Makes it a lot easier to get high paying orders and since every order no matter what mileage is at most 15 minutes since everything is so close, lower paying orders are a lot more worth it to take. they chose a great market to roll this out to.
@@PhoenixDeliveries okay after a while of using it the biggest issue is it’s nothing but top dasher with a new coat of paint. I can’t access my perks and they refuse to give them to me because I didn’t hit the goals by the end of last month. It’s ridiculous honestly so on my app it says that I have platinum rank but I don’t get any of the perks
Of course it's fair. You cherry-pick your assigned work while you sit on your butt and I take everything I can get. Out of the two of us, which one do you think the company should reward? I love this new Platinum program
We all just need to stop working for a couple days in a row on every single platform and let these companies know we are done with them making us work like slaves!
@@vikings7683 Exactly. Im one of them. There are thousands of us on the waitlist for DD, GH and Spark. I just started 3 days ago but from watching these videos, most these drives are spoiled. I had to work shit jobs for crap pay and deal with all the drama that comes with it for a lot less than you can make now driving in a car. Most drivers scoff at a $4 delivery but they are usually low miles and take around 15 minutes. Get 4 of those back to back and you are making $16 an hour for driving a car and dropping off fast food. Hustlers and grinders will take that all day. Would you rather be flipping burgers, cleaning toilets, taking out trash and stuck on a W2 job with co-workers and a boss you probably hate and a set schedule? By all means, go ahead. Plenty of us will take those DD and GH spots.
@@michaelbell75 you say that now until those $4 orders are all +6 miles away and realize you only have time to do at MAX three of those deliveries within an hour. Don't forget you also have to drive back to the market to get more orders so you're wasting a lot in gas and that money you earned is mostly going towards fuel for your car. There's a reason us long time drivers won't pick up low paying, high mileage orders, it costs us more than we earn.
@@Sshheeyy Thats fine, no one is forcing you to drive. If you feel you can make better money working a crap W2 fast-food job, go ahead. People are desperate for money these days and many arent in a position to cherry pick $2 per mile deliveries. Even the awful trip radar orders no one wants get snapped up within seconds in my area. Many people take what they can get and are thankful for it.
@@michaelbell75 yeah we’ll see what you say. When you get into a fucking car accident and they drop your ass like a stone people tend to forget you have to have a business insurance policy on your vehicle because you’re using your personal car for business if you get into a car accident, whether it’s your fault or not, and your insurance company finds out which they will then what do you do? and I’ve heard it all so don’t even try it. You literally have to have business insurance on your vehicle just something to think about and also your oil changes your tires your brakes, all the stuff cost money unless you get it done for free I don’t know. It’s none of my business, but I did DoorDash for a year and a half full time and I’ve almost lost everything so there’s a lesson to be learned here if you think $16 an hour is worth it then by all means go do it also you have to take out money for taxes you have to pay taxes for every dollar that you earn yes mileage can be deducted and it can help you and it will but you still have to set money back for your taxes and if you don’t, the IRS will catch up to you eventually so keep thinking $16 an hour sitting in your AC car and driving your car into the ground is worth it I was just like you when I began. I had an attitude just like you but then I quickly learned that $16 an hour drop to like 9 dollars an hour that’s below minimum wage, yeah I’ll stick with my crappy W-2 job making 19 an hour knowing when I clock in I’m getting paid 19 an hour no matter what it doesn’t fluctuate like DoorDash you can make $16 an hour for one hour and then the next hour you can make no money been there done that even when you’re a top dasher, so yeah, I’ll stick with my crappy W-2 job making 19 an hour having weekends off and don’t have to work seven days a fucking week so keep playing with yourself you’ll find out soon enough
I am not worried if it comes to my market, I already have the stats to be on the Platinum tier. 4.92 , 80% AR, 98% CR I am in a good market but only dash during peak times lunch/dinner sometimes breakfast if map shows busy. Secret to keeping High AR is to never dash when map is grey , especially during non peak hours as you will then have priority to crap orders. When this happens I switch to UE and others apps and wait until DD shows busy again. I am in LOP, pizza program and priority. I can make $200 most nights during dinner shifts, because I get 4 to 5 LOP orders during this time and all the others are priority or pizza orders that pay well. I rarely if ever get fast food orders during peak times. As mentioned before if DD map is grey I sign off DD and use UE and other apps ,This is key to maintaining high stats. DO NOT RELY ON DD FULLTIME always have other apps for backup.
@@PhoenixDeliveriesI added more info in my previous post that may help you As to your question, I used to be a cherry picker with low stats and I make much more now having high stats. . DD is my key money maker and if only dash during peak times its easy to maintain my stats. BTW DD reset my AR back in Oct 2022 and I have maintained it ever since. As mentioned in my previous post update. I only do lunch and dinner on DD so 8 hrs a day on DD app and easily make $300 to $350 during this time more on weekends. If DD is slow my next best app is UE with the 2, I have made up $650 in a 14 hr day. These days I usually quit after I hit $350 or $450 if its really busy. So usually just 10 to 12hrs a day is my max now
Curious what you consider what ‘pay well’ is. I rarely take less than $10 at breakfast, $12 at lunch, then nothing less then catering bag required rest of the time. Actually try to do nothing but LO or catering. Pretty consistently earn $15-$20 per order for the week. My AR rarely gets above 3%.
This change if it happens is a hard one because its great for drivers like me that have the metrics to be in the LOP but can’t get in cus is invite only. And also sucks for delivers like you that do have it and tank the AR waiting on them good LOP orders so its like yeiiiii for me that I might get to see some of them orders and damn for the cherry-picking LOP dashers. So I understand both sides of this.
Platinum program is a great upgrade in my market. This will increase efficiency and reduce dropped orders. Some days all I get are large orders which makes for an amazing day. 😊
This is going to be horrible for you. Without advance scheduling people will be force to maintain platinum so they can work. That puts every other driver in the catering/LOP program to compete with you.
So EVERY MARKET is DIFFERENT... It's tough for a creator talks about their own market, because that's what they are are doing. I do love how people boast about 6% Acceptance Rating. Totally understand you have to make money, and don't take trash. But these delivery companies have ZERO reason to reward people who decline everything. They want orders moved, period. What could happen is that they will start only sending junk $2.00 orders to the low AR drivers. That will force the hand of the driver to then do one of three things: #1 Quit the app all together (They won't miss you by the way if you do lol) #2 Go hourly ( this would keep you busy, but you will be taking all those left over $2 non tippers) #3 Raise you Acceptance Rating (to get past 50% or whatever, so you can get yourself some sort of priority to seeing better paying orders) But this is just my two cents, from my experiences of different markets and over 1,500 deliveries completed.
Not true that higher acceptance rate gets you access to higher paying or more orders. I have all of the stats needed except the 100 orders in the last 30 days and I'm in one of the markets where this is being rolled out. The app glitches constantly. Either it freezes on order acceptances or on the GPS or on the final drop-off and sometimes I'll have the order in my car and if I haven't screenshotted the delivery address to put into Waze (at which point I have to pray the app will unfreeze and come back to life after restarting my phone or force quitting the app) then I'm S.O.L. Customer service has been a nightmare--not VIP at all. And I often can only schedule an hour at a time per day ahead, which is bullshit since then I am only guaranteed to dash one hour a day, so how am I supposed to get the 100 orders? Doordash has basically told me it's not their fault or problem.
I have 1,811 trips with 4.99 customer rating 100% completion and acceptance rate. In my market it’s $16.25 hourly and I always take that. When I wait at McDonald’s with the Cherry pickers they get mad because DoorDash always gives me orders before them. I have no problem with this program and I hope it comes to Pittsburgh
Not going to accept garbage orders. My time is valuable. My car is valuable. These platforms shouldn't even allow low-ball tip/zero tip orders...shouldn't even allow that order to go through at all. But greed is a powerful thing and they let them go through and hope newbies will pick them up.
Yeah DoorDash makes the same amount of money whether somebody tipped $50 or $0 so all they care about is every order getting delivered
Why are you complaining about tips? Shouldn't you be complaining about doordash not putting up the base rate?
@@kingofengland111 facts. I got a tip for you, but I don't think you want it. Just spell "run" out loud 3 times and you'll understand.
@@kingofengland111 yes
Yep, hoping someone else will make them money by losing it
So much for being an Independent Contractor......seems to me all those Doordash rules adds up to being an Employee
Yes my thoughts also
I think they want us to basically be an employee without giving us benefits
Jacob Warren 💯
Also notice more crappy orders (Declines up) and rest.slow dragging dashers on wait times in my area (GA) (Unassigned up) now trying to dangle a carrot in front of us with this pilot program
. Stay in my same mode nothing under six bucks and shooting for $2 a mile . I not DD
Pay my gas insurance and car wear and tear .
Have a good day
you are an employee, what were you expecting? being able to tell a customer to fuck off?
@@PhoenixDeliveries including minimum wage
This company is killing me. Why don't they just charge the customers more for longer orders? Back in the day pizza stores would have a mileage limit for deliveries, if you lived outside the limit, no delivery. Doordash should tell people that if they're more than 5 miles away, then they need to pay a surcharge. This is a no-brainer. Orders like $10 for 15 miles shouldn't even be legal.
Well DoorDash does charge more for longer distance to customers. But that amount doesn’t go to us dashers. And because of that customers when they see the last thing which is to tip they have already paid so much in fees to where they think DoorDash is giving us dashers the money for it.
Since we are SUPPOSED to be Independent Contractors, this means that technically, DD is charging a delivery fee in our stead so with that in mind .... why isn't DD passing the entire delivery fee onto the drivers?
They charge extra for far deliveries where I live but I don’t think it goes to the driver.. not sure tho
I got a offer for $4 for 12 and 14 miles, I just ignore that order.
I'm platinum , with 70% acceptance rate I log in at rush hour supposedly I have priorities for high paying order , let me tell you a fact the algorithm is going to send me the worst of the order , cuz if I decline it im going doeb silver , this system serves only doordssh , with cherypicking i used to make 200 a day easy with acceptabce rate as low as 5 % now i barely do 100 per day
11% here. If they want that higher they can pay better and stop sending me trash. I will not comply.
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I don’t understand how your rating is so low and you still get any orders. Must be the market. I don’t accept no tip orders and even decline tipped orders if I don’t want to go that direction. I’ve never dropped below 54%ar
@@Supersquishyawesomeness Interesting fact: I'm a top dasher and despite being told that I get the most priority on orders if my percent drops under 70% the number of orders I get is far fewer. I was curious to know what would happen in this situation and found out.
DoorDash will try any and everything before they would ever think of raising base pay 😂😂 all these tiers and programs when having an approximate $4-$5 base pay would eliminate so many issues for them. It’s not like they don’t make a killing in all the fees that the driver gets no part of. I think a higher base pay would solve most issues for them. How about throw the drivers a couple more $ and stop trying to deceive drivers with all their number games 😅
Even if you become top dasher, you have to still do crap orders to keep the rating so to me, it’s not worth it at all. If they guarantee you NO bad orders, then I would care about my AR. DD is the only app that does this crap it’s annoying
I guess the promise is you’ll see less bad orders but that’s definitely not something I’m going to count on
In India the delivery app must actually pay a fair wage to the drivers, because we tipped every time, and all the drivers were shocked to be getting a tip.
It’s gonna be interesting to see how many people either focus on multi app or shoot permanent to something else only such as Uber eats
now there are a lot of migrants who buy accounts from hackers, they should be banned permanently! they buy new accounts when their account is blocked. to get around the lock they wear wigs, mustaches, etc. to confuse camera verification
Or glitch
Silver gold and platinum. Im in the plastic level
Cellulose level here.
I must be somewhere between aluminum foil and parchment paper.
Correction: the advance scheduling is what's going to be huge. We won't be able to schedule 5-6 days in advance anymore
That’s wack
Yeah I came here to say that
Us drivers have more power than you think. Nobodys going to take low paying orders eventually the cost of inflation and gas prices wont justify doing this at all. Doordash would be the ones who suffer as we the people will movevon to other platforms. Supply and demand.
Reached Platinum status.... even had 100% acceptance rate for a day and most offers are still $3-$4. How are these levels worth it when nothing changes with the offers?!
Door Dash makes changes that helps them, not you. I've pretty much given up on DD. Between the app glitches and them basically forcing you to have 70% or higher accept rate in order to get good orders. 90% of the orders they send me are not really profitable from a drivers perspective. Sure 6$ to go 5 miles is ok, until you have to drive 5 miles back to town to get your next order.... Door Dash has been riding the ignorant drivers to take the trash. Wouldn't have any trash offers if door dash charged 1$ per mile from location as delivery fee and it goes to the dasher. They could remove the fee if the order total was over certain amount and decent tip was left. But seriously if you live 10 miles out and order a single fast food combo and tip $2 even if its 20% ain't no one going to bring your food to you for 4.50 if you have to drive 10 miles there and likely 10 miles back. I remember when base pay was 7$ lol, Won't be long until enough DD drivers have had enough and either leave the platform or organize a drivers strike.
DD would fold like a cheap house of cards if drivers formed a national Drivers Union
Yeah. I’m happy to be doing CDL school in Phoenix here shortly just to get out of the full time gig work. I will be doing it part time possibly afterwards but I won’t be counting on gigs at all.
Good for you. They are not sustainable and will lead to financial problems.
@@dannytennial5311 exactly I got so far behind on my bills and that doesn’t even count gas or maintenance on your vehicle. I actually went back to a W-2 job doing Landscape what I used to do all these people wanted freedom and I do agree it is nice to work your own schedule and be your own boss but when you have problems paying your bills, it’s another story
I am not accepting garbage like the $5 for 9.6 miles I rejected last night to a dead zone which means nearly 20 miles roundvtrip. At 15mpg, I'd spend almost $4 in gas to do that. Oh hell no!
No way you should accept that one
@@PhoenixDeliveries I didn't. I am super picky. My AR is only 25%. And I have only done 335 deliveries in 6 months.
Yup and this is exactly why I went back to a W-2. There’s no money in DoorDash any more I’m better off with a W-2
Lipstick on a pig! All of that will not make the take home bottom line any better! What happens down the road? Well Leopards don't change their spots. Give it a while. What this will do is eventually bring in government regulation which I am not in favor of, but sometimes things just have to be allowed to happen!
I repeat doordash was loosing money!!for all those cherry pickers they noticed!!!! YOU ARE A EMPLOYEE NOW
In my market Doordash is garbage. On average Uber Eats is paying me $4.90 more per delivery. I always focus on Uber Eats and cherry pick Doordash orders if it is slow.
Incorrect - the schedule you referred to that drops at 3 PM is the early access scheduling so if you're in a market where you can't dash unless you schedule 6 days out, you're screwed if you don't have at least a 50% acceptance rate. DD knows this and they're weeding out the cherry pickers for drivers with employee mindset. So if you don't want to maintain a 50% acceptance rate and in an over saturated market where you need to schedule six days out, you won't be able to work.
That’s a good correction. Currently if you have a 95% completion rate and a few other stats you can schedule early, but I guess they want to take that away from me
@@PhoenixDeliveries That's correct - it's not just you, they're forcing all drivers to maintain a 50% AR minimum or get off the platform.
@@PhoenixDeliveriesyeah this is what scares me the most. All my stats are excellent except AR, around 20. I tried the 50% thing and it just tore my car up super fast and I used twice the gas as usual. I’m good on that. I guess if I can’t schedule then I’ll have to go to an area where Uber is a little busier. I wish DD was like Uber - no zones, sign on whenever, just work!
I’ve been top dasher for the past year. I can tell you that the pay and mileage is significantly different compared to not being top dasher. With top dasher I average about 25-30 dollars per hr. Not to mention I’m in an area that doesn’t really have high paying tips. I still average 25-30 dollars per hr. Instead of being focused on the dollar amount pay attention to the miles. I accept 4 and 5 dollar orders but only if the miles are significantly low. 5 dollar order the maximum miles I’m traveling is 2.5 miles. Keep the miles low and money high and you will see a difference! 😊
I get a ton of orders that go from the south side of South Mountain to the north side. Takes me out of the zone so I don’t get any orders, or very few till I make it back. And then there is the few apartments that I refuse to deliver to that are just a pain. Will make it nearly impossible to get to 50% let alone 70%. Guess we will see.
I guess the thinking would be you wouldn't have to see those bad orders ever again once you hit 50% but I right now I don't think that would be the case
I tested out 70 percent AR for 3 months. Trust me they will keep sending u the negative offers. The whole system is a scam to guilt drivers Into taking bad offers
I tried taking 10 orders in row Friday. Made it to 7. Made less than $15 in 2 hours.
That's so rough. $2 on every order
Yep DD is FOS. The last week I've been on they've offered me 3 orders. Each was $2.50 for 10 miles and $4.50 for 13 miles. I was like ya gotta be smoking. What people are taking these orders. And I have a 60% acceptance rating.
I don’t do DoorDash anymore there’s other companies paying way more
Uber?
My guess is that they did this in response to people accepting every order for 3-4 days before the end of the month to get Top Dasher (for the next month), and then cherrypicking most of the next month. This new program works on a "rolling" 30-day schedule. They obviously knew that people were abusing the system, and it was only a matter of time before they corrected it.
Yeah that makes totally sense
Except cherry picking died on March 1, 2023 when they rolled out the Punishment Program ... oh wait I mean Incentive Program. They said that you needed to be 50% AR or better to get access to higher paying orders and I can tell you from experience it is 70% AR not 50 as if you are below 70% AR right now, you are taking long naps in a parking lot somewhere waiting to get orders. DD won't send you squat. This is why they intentionally flooded each market with drivers prior to release of the program because it is the only way it works having plenty of drivers in the area to route orders to. So the plan of cherry picking until the last few days of the month won't work anyways. No need to fix what you can't do.
Squeezing out part timers so it'll hurt in the end....
I'm at 99% to 100% acceptance and completion and 4.97 and I still get trash 😢
Good video! I agree with you on the possible new changes for DoorDash. DoorDash is going try to get newbie’s and earn by time driver’s to accept these bad orders in for them to get delivered. Also, stacking a good paying order with a bad paying and not showing the amounts to get these orders delivered is another way DoorDash is trying cut cost and make a profit.
Simply treat a stacked order like a single order. If the pay is worth going the miles, take it. If not, simply decline.
Yep. Stacks are out for me. It's always one decent with one pure shitz order. I'll look at add-ons and single trips only. But now it's basically all trash anyway. I rarely ever turn it on, if only to take a peak. I have been so disappointed with DD in 2023, I've added them to dead and stinking list. It's over in my market.
@Rogue Investor It really is not that simple for me. Last stack that pissed me off to the moon was 8 miles. I deliver the first order in 2 miles (where all the money was at), then I see clearly I'm gonna drive 6 miles to get the last $2.00.
I hit the fuxn roof. That's was it. I wanted to throw the shitz out the window.
No more of that action for me.
@rogueinvestor2375 they are counting your declines now for stacked/add on orders in my area now. Disgusting trash company
Who cares deactivate everyone these videos get old DD is done ur done
I will let you know that when top Dasher was still a thing I actually was able to maintain having everything I needed to be top dasher while still declining a lot of orders. My issue now is that now that I finally got reinstated on Doordash it just seems impossible to get any orders down even though I'm at gold level right now. I'm hoping that will change when I am more consistently working in my target area which basically requires scheduling a week in advance or else you just can't really get any hours there because it's always so full of people and so full of orders but that target area is always so busy that it's the only way to really consistently make money to get to the point of actually getting to Platinum level by doing enough deliveries
It's gotten much slower in. North Texas. I take most orders , I have a 90 % acceptance rate. I refuse to schedule, In busier markets, you can take all high paying order. And that's great.
Uber eats has already been doing this, I'm a diamond driver, with 76% acceptance rate, and a 96% customer satisfaction.
And I still barely make anything.
The market is just saturated with drivers.
The only reason they doing this is because they have a lot of drivers. They stopped accepting people in my market for last few months
In my market they are still offering $450 for referrals!
@@bigtuna9529they use to pay 950 for referral now it’s totally gone
Between this and the instacart update I just posted a video about, gig apps are changing too fast 😭 I remember when the biggest update would just be a different design of the “dash now” button 😂
fast forward 10 months later and I'm platinum level and I'm killing it… My stats are
Acceptance rate… 96%
completion rate… 100%
customer rating… 4.95
on time… 95%
440 lifetime deliveries
I can’t stand seeing Dashers with no bags and see their orders sit on the shelf when I’m early and have to wait with a hot/cold bag. I know some Dashers with higher metrics than me and they don’t use bags and are late always! Doordash doesn’t care. I care for the customers food and quick delivery.
I don't even have a bag but still have a 4.97 customer rating...you can hate me lol
Me too I care about customer orders
The bag doesn't mean much on the walk to the car. What is it that, 20 seconds? My orders go in a big ice chest that is insulated to keep hot things hot. For cold, I have ice in another ice chest. But I started using the obscenely large doordash bag Pizza Hut gave me. It immediately identifies me as the driver, & I get faster service from the employees. Some places, everyone must wait in the same line including drivers. Sometimes when I walk in those places I immediately get called to the front while the other drivers wait with no bag. So it is definitely valuable. My cold food arrives cold & hot arrives hot. But the bag has made my job better by giving me better service.
@@rodblues6832 I do for the food as well as being sanitary. I was talking with a hostess girl today at a restaurant and she said she hardly ever sees drivers with a bag. I actually said they might have one in car. Either way. I’m glad you are a doing well!
@@imagee2000 I believe it matters. When I order food or coffee. Always not hot. Aaaaaaand I tip well!!!!!!
Above safety or money in drivers pockets DD number one & 2 concerns are completion & acceptance. They dont care if you 50 miles for a dollar and your car over heats as long as that food gets delievered on time.
I have been in the Large Order Program for about 6 months. Large Orders are rare, at least for me.
Me too. I've been in it since March and have had 3 total... But two of them were just regular large meals and paid regular amounts like any other order. Only 1 in that many months was actually a real big order that paid in the mid 30 dollars.
Been in for a few years now in my market you may get a couple a week if your lucky. Some aren’t worth taking due to miles/tip
This is going to cause a mass exodus because there’s no way that part time drivers are going to really survive
The worst thing that DoorDash has done to their workers is introducing the high pay program and now this tiered system is going to ruin the income of most drivers
It’s shit like this that makes me happy that I do spark instead
I am looking for part time work, seems Wal Mart will have to do and ride shares are close to 100% dead. The gas prices and high income tax rate, why bother?
The rolling 100 deliveries over 30 days requirement is not good at all. If you miss a couple of days or even one day you have to play catchup. Guess what? You have to play catchup without being able to schedule freely. 😂 Squeezing out the part timers. All my stats look great except for the delivery numbers.
Most of their offer is all garbage
Lol 😂 I don’t even make silver. All my stats outside of acceptance rate are in the 90% / 4.7 rating. It’s always been my acceptance rate.
Being as 90 percent of offers sent to me are 10 miles to 20 mile deliveries or 2.25 to 3.50 for anywhere from 2 miles to 20 miles. Usually 5 or 7 miles. How could I possibly have a chance of getting better orders. Even if I did I'd have to accept super bad reduction orders.. I'm sorry but my vehicle is not expendable.. They are not helping me when my repair bills come nor providing a rental..Nor care if I end up with no vehicle any more...No how about the person ordering from another state or 10 to 20 miles away refine them to being only able to order from restaurants that are in their area..why when their are plenty close to them are they allowing folks to order from far away..nonsense it's a disfavor to both driver and customer it has to stop..I'll never achieve good acceptance rate but yet others where orders are better in their area can achieve this much easier I call this prejudicial and unfair probably illegally so. It's not equal to all. Mostly poor depressed areas will see this the most.
Im starting to think people look at doordash more than just a gig damn i didnt think it was this many problems people was having. I be making bank. But its supplemental income for me. Ive never not been top dasher 5.0 customer rating, accept rate never drops below 90% completion rate nevwr been below 100%. And i do get the small orders but if the milage equals up to the $ amount thats it.
This is unskilled labor, the supply is Infinity. They will never run out of new drivers applying. It is in their best interest to have high turnover rate. Once drivers understand the game & start playing for their own best interests, their utility to the company begins to drop. Everyone who needed to get rich off these apps is rich, the founders, the VC's, the friend of a friend. They are under no obligation to keep these vast money losing machines going. They all lose money & have never turned a profit. There is no "when things get better", each batch of new drivers works for less than the one before, have you noticed that? The bottom is somewhere around 70-80 cents a mile, & they will get there. If they should cease & desist who cares, they all got super rich, not their problem to solve.
Doordash is trash
Do an accepting every order video to be able to do the new program. More content! You’ll make the money back in ad revenue lol
You need to update this video now that it has dropped in more markets... for one in my market, the early scheduling at 3 has gone away unless you keep a 50% ar... now you have to wait until 12am and by then those time slots are gone.
My Customer ratings never goes up, it's been 4.3 since I crossed 100 deliveries I'm almost 700 now. it's bullshit
To get the AR up quickly always pause at dropoff unless your in a good zone
Thanks for the tip!
I do that too. 😁😍
100 deliveries in a rolling 30 days is only 3.33 per day, so if you do a lowly 2 per hour it's only an average of 1.6 hours a day, or basically 12 hours a week.
This program is also rolling in early access scheduling to AR, which has never been included in the past. If youbdon't have the AR you will either have to wake up at midnight and maybe get leftovers or just rely on zones going red.
This is going to be terrible in smaller markets.
I avoid subway like the plague
It is in Washington state.. & yes.. I am a platinum driver... so glad I didn't let my acceptance rate tank at the advice of many.
Great to run into you again the other night at Cheesecake factory :) Cheers! Keep the vid's coming I hope that tiered system does not come to Arizona. We both would be screwed since we are in the large order program. I rarely ever get uber eats offers anymore. But when I go, they turn out to be $30 or higher. Still not even breaking $300 per week on uber eats working 7 nights a week.
@jeffgeerling7199i’m interested
Great seeing you out there!
@jeffgeerling7199I’m interested as well. Single mom here trying to make it but I’m not even close to being able to pay my bills.
I'm at platinum level and still getty crap orders! Really pisses me off!!
I love my DD ya'll but try spark, it is on fire for me. I only use these apps as secondary income. I am fortunate enough to have state retirement from being a medic for 30 years.
Ill make sure that i rate all 4s and increase completions, but i only tip after the delivery - some of the dashers leave your food ANYWHERE. Im not tipping that poor service
You were wasting your time trying to keep your acceptance rate up anyways.
All Doordash did was add a third tier to balance out the oversaturation
I have Doordash accounts in bulk for sale.
over in your town, booming in my town, 70% used in my town
Every door dasher is a cherry picker. If it is their side gig.
It’s going to screw Cherry pickers and multiappers is what it’s going to do
That’s exactly who they want to get rid of
I’m currently multi-apping in Lubbock! I’m still making the same amounts if not more, hasn’t really felt like a change, still cherry picking as well
And I'm both lol. It's probably worth trying to see if a higher acceptance rate is better, but I'm not convinced that'll work out
@@michaelbell75 It's not going to solve Doordash's problem. SOMEBODY still has to take those $2 orders. If the "platinum" drivers are forced to then they'll leave, too.
Very controlling app , Uber is way better
I’m pretty sure the 3 pm schedule drop is early access. Based on your vid’s I’d say you easily qualify for it. If that’s true, you will not be able to continue this way.
Just checked the current requirements and I believe you're correct. Here's what DoorDash says, "You qualify if you have a Customer Rating of at least 4.6, a Completion Rate of at least 95%, and have accepted and completed at least 500 lifetime deliveries on the DoorDash platform"
@@PhoenixDeliveries I lost access to this one week because I didn’t compete 5 deliveries in the previous week. This caused me to have to wake up at midnight to schedule dashes(there were not a lot of schedule spots in my market). This is prob the biggest deal with the new programs. A lot of markets will force you to qualify for any sort of consistent access to dashing.
@@lebronzebrain1479question. I currently have the early access too but will lose it with this new program, I don’t make money if I take 50%. I don’t mind midnight, I am a night shifter anyway, so I’m awake then. But how many days out do you have access to on regular schedule?
the last week or so ive had nothing but absolute shit offers and my AR is over 70% its complete bullshit
The program is bullshit because at the end of the day, the customer is footing the bill with tips. People don't want to high tip when the food is already double the price from the actual menu. It's fucked all around
I’m already hitting those platinum numbers and I only get $10 or more orders like 5 a week so it’s bull crap
Good to know!
@@PhoenixDeliveries I’m in south Texas..Keep up the great work..Ima subscribe to you
A thing that makes it SLIGHTLY better here in Australia (for the lower orders covering a bit of distance ) we have small diesel cars. hatchbacks and sedans, wagons,, loads of diesel cars, we are big on diesel over here, i have a ford mondeo wagon diesel, which i think is called a fusion in USA, not sure!. Ive converted my metric stats into USA for you. So i get around 530 miles to an 18 gallon tank of diesel. thats in town driving, i get more when i drive open roads. i have been accepting all orders after knocking a few back the other week. im 5 star, 92% acceptance, 100% completion, 98% early or ontime,, 97 deliveries so far. im going for that platinum!. back to my point, having a small diesel car is a giant plus to have as a dasher. along side electric i guess!
3 cities means absolutely nothing
It really only affects the people who were using this as a job to support themselves and maybe a family. I have only me and my dogs, and I’m about to move into my car for about 6 months and I’m gonna save up as much as I can. And I live in Lubbock. As far of how it works, yes, you do have to accept a lot of crap orders to move up but once you get there, it’s money. Because you can dash whenever and don’t have to schedule at all in Platinum. Gold you can go out whenever it’s busy or when they have promos going on. Depending on busy it is and which tier you’re in. In Platinum you can clear $30-$40 an hour doing this. If it’s not busy still $15-$25 an hour. Gold you might have to schedule in advance for the slower times or, like say, dash now when it’s busy.
But i have only me and my dogs so it doesn’t take much for me to make it from day to day. That’s all I need is day to day.
I would look at the DashMart delivery opportunity if you have it in your area. One batch could significantly increase your AR. If your looking for a less stressful way to boost your stats!
Can you please explain how taking DashMart orders increases your AR?
@@jacquelinerothschild1992 they have batches that come down similar to Amazon flex that they pay by the batch. I saw a video on the Long Island Dash Experience channel last week. They don’t pay well per order, but if you need a boost quickly it is a better way than gambling on the low tip or no tip orders and possibly getting contract violations!
The day that the majority of us "independent contractors" collectively commit to declining all trash offers is the day the offers will get better.
"You have to stand for something..."
Expect this. “Declined”
I'd love to know what criteria is used to offer a dasher the large order program. I've been a top dasher for about six months and haven't seen anything about this.
DOORDASH IS OVER!!?! Jesus these clickbait titles are so stupid
It seems like the way I’ve been DoorDash driving might be unprofitable soon meaning my strategy could be over
Yeah, DoorDash is over it’s junk you don’t make any money even if you do it part time you’re spending more money on gas oil changes, tires brakes and possibly get into a car accident and if you don’t have business insurance on your policy you’re up shits creek buddy so yeah, I think DoorDash is completely over. People don’t want to tip because people are a broke. Customers are starting to find out going back to the stores are way cheaper. Just for example my wife wanted to do Instacart the other day she would’ve spent $200 if I wouldn’t have went to the store and got all of our stuff didn’t even come close to spending $200
Even as someone who dashes people complaining about no tip orders ext be mad at doordash not the customers. DD can pay 5 dollars plus base pay and shown they can with "promos"
Im in the large order program and have priority access. About 80 percent acceptance rate. If im getting bad orders i know something is off with the app , ill work the next day ill start getting good orders again.
Of course your always available you take barely any orders. The schedule for my market is gobbled up by top dashers to prevent people like from getting on schedule. We have easily 10 dashers at a given time in our small area.
Looks like dodash is about to bring the bar of soap out to screw drivers once again.😂
My Amazon is about 60 % + and 40 % - for all other gigs. At least in Santa Fe and ABQ.
What happens if you change to a zone out of that market/zone? Or if you drive into one? (I’m planning a trip through Texas in August, but was planning on staying south) Maybe I should check this out. I’m top dasher so should be platinum. And I’m in LOP.
Top Dasher means nothing. now you're either nothing, silver, gold, or platinum
That’s my take. I’ll try it and see what happens
Could be bad. Could be good. I won’t know until I test it out
It'll backfire. Everybody knows you can't make money unless you decline lots and lots of orders, and since the company refuses to be reasonable and charge customers more per mile for longer mileage orders, people will still continue to decline lots of orders and nobody will ever make it to platinum.
They need to let dashers dash anytime regardless. I lost my status of dashing anytime last year and simply cannot get it back up unless I accept literally every single $2.50 order they throw at me
That thumbnail is literally and order I’ve gotten 😂
im happy with this.. large order program here i come!
I like this guy, he's honest
I appreciate that!
I’m in Lubbock it actually works really well here. Makes it a lot easier to get high paying orders and since every order no matter what mileage is at most 15 minutes since everything is so close, lower paying orders are a lot more worth it to take. they chose a great market to roll this out to.
Do you stay in the highest tier?
@@PhoenixDeliveries okay after a while of using it the biggest issue is it’s nothing but top dasher with a new coat of paint. I can’t access my perks and they refuse to give them to me because I didn’t hit the goals by the end of last month. It’s ridiculous honestly so on my app it says that I have platinum rank but I don’t get any of the perks
Thanks for this new info. I’m in Las Vegas, but like to keep up. Dashing since 2016🎉
We the people need to stand tall and not let them treat us how ever they want we are starting to become employees this is not fair
Of course it's fair. You cherry-pick your assigned work while you sit on your butt and I take everything I can get. Out of the two of us, which one do you think the company should reward? I love this new Platinum program
We all just need to stop working for a couple days in a row on every single platform and let these companies know we are done with them making us work like slaves!
They won't care they already have many drivers waiting in line to even be activated.
@@vikings7683 Exactly. Im one of them. There are thousands of us on the waitlist for DD, GH and Spark. I just started 3 days ago but from watching these videos, most these drives are spoiled. I had to work shit jobs for crap pay and deal with all the drama that comes with it for a lot less than you can make now driving in a car. Most drivers scoff at a $4 delivery but they are usually low miles and take around 15 minutes. Get 4 of those back to back and you are making $16 an hour for driving a car and dropping off fast food. Hustlers and grinders will take that all day. Would you rather be flipping burgers, cleaning toilets, taking out trash and stuck on a W2 job with co-workers and a boss you probably hate and a set schedule? By all means, go ahead. Plenty of us will take those DD and GH spots.
@@michaelbell75 you say that now until those $4 orders are all +6 miles away and realize you only have time to do at MAX three of those deliveries within an hour. Don't forget you also have to drive back to the market to get more orders so you're wasting a lot in gas and that money you earned is mostly going towards fuel for your car. There's a reason us long time drivers won't pick up low paying, high mileage orders, it costs us more than we earn.
@@Sshheeyy Thats fine, no one is forcing you to drive. If you feel you can make better money working a crap W2 fast-food job, go ahead. People are desperate for money these days and many arent in a position to cherry pick $2 per mile deliveries. Even the awful trip radar orders no one wants get snapped up within seconds in my area. Many people take what they can get and are thankful for it.
@@michaelbell75 yeah we’ll see what you say. When you get into a fucking car accident and they drop your ass like a stone people tend to forget you have to have a business insurance policy on your vehicle because you’re using your personal car for business if you get into a car accident, whether it’s your fault or not, and your insurance company finds out which they will then what do you do? and I’ve heard it all so don’t even try it. You literally have to have business insurance on your vehicle just something to think about and also your oil changes your tires your brakes, all the stuff cost money unless you get it done for free I don’t know. It’s none of my business, but I did DoorDash for a year and a half full time and I’ve almost lost everything so there’s a lesson to be learned here if you think $16 an hour is worth it then by all means go do it also you have to take out money for taxes you have to pay taxes for every dollar that you earn yes mileage can be deducted and it can help you and it will but you still have to set money back for your taxes and if you don’t, the IRS will catch up to you eventually so keep thinking $16 an hour sitting in your AC car and driving your car into the ground is worth it I was just like you when I began. I had an attitude just like you but then I quickly learned that $16 an hour drop to like 9 dollars an hour that’s below minimum wage, yeah I’ll stick with my crappy W-2 job making 19 an hour knowing when I clock in I’m getting paid 19 an hour no matter what it doesn’t fluctuate like DoorDash you can make $16 an hour for one hour and then the next hour you can make no money been there done that even when you’re a top dasher, so yeah, I’ll stick with my crappy W-2 job making 19 an hour having weekends off and don’t have to work seven days a fucking week so keep playing with yourself you’ll find out soon enough
What is ur next challenge?
It was nice talking to you at Morton's on Saturday, I hope you made some money that night
It was ok. Nothing special. I was picking up a $260 order and they tipped 4% lol
@@PhoenixDeliveries cheap bastards 😂
Do you still do Grubhub ?
They don't really send me any orders so I don't use them much
I am not worried if it comes to my market, I already have the stats to be on the Platinum tier.
4.92 , 80% AR, 98% CR
I am in a good market but only dash during peak times lunch/dinner sometimes breakfast if map shows busy.
Secret to keeping High AR is to never dash when map is grey , especially during non peak hours as you will then have priority to crap orders. When this happens I switch to UE and others apps and wait until DD shows busy again.
I am in LOP, pizza program and priority. I can make $200 most nights during dinner shifts, because I get 4 to 5 LOP orders during this time and all the others are priority or pizza orders that pay well. I rarely if ever get fast food orders during peak times.
As mentioned before if DD map is grey I sign off DD and use UE and other apps ,This is key to maintaining high stats. DO NOT RELY ON DD FULLTIME always have other apps for backup.
I'm curious if you've ever tried having a low acceptance rate and how the earnings compare between the two
@@PhoenixDeliveriesI added more info in my previous post that may help you
As to your question, I used to be a cherry picker with low stats and I make much more now having high stats. . DD is my key money maker and if only dash during peak times its easy to maintain my stats.
BTW DD reset my AR back in Oct 2022 and I have maintained it ever since. As mentioned in my previous post update. I only do lunch and dinner on DD so 8 hrs a day on DD app and easily make $300 to $350 during this time more on weekends.
If DD is slow my next best app is UE with the 2, I have made up $650 in a 14 hr day. These days I usually quit after I hit $350 or $450 if its really busy. So usually just 10 to 12hrs a day is my max now
@@PhoenixDeliveries Forgot to mention I am in in Georgia and I dash 20 miles north of Atlanta, Mostly upper class neighborhoods.
@@vikings7683 Nothing u say applies to 99 percent of drivers because u are in the LOP
Curious what you consider what ‘pay well’ is. I rarely take less than $10 at breakfast, $12 at lunch, then nothing less then catering bag required rest of the time. Actually try to do nothing but LO or catering. Pretty consistently earn $15-$20 per order for the week. My AR rarely gets above 3%.
This change if it happens is a hard one because its great for drivers like me that have the metrics to be in the LOP but can’t get in cus is invite only. And also sucks for delivers like you that do have it and tank the AR waiting on them good LOP orders so its like yeiiiii for me that I might get to see some of them orders and damn for the cherry-picking LOP dashers. So I understand both sides of this.
Accept anything under a dollar a mile or even better $2 under a mile
Platinum program is a great upgrade in my market. This will increase efficiency and reduce dropped orders. Some days all I get are large orders which makes for an amazing day. 😊
This is going to be horrible for you. Without advance scheduling people will be force to maintain platinum so they can work. That puts every other driver in the catering/LOP program to compete with you.
I’m at Gold Level rn I’m doing ok, ngl I got desperate and I literally took every order until the app told me I was in Gold 😂 I wanna get platinum
So EVERY MARKET is DIFFERENT... It's tough for a creator talks about their own market, because that's what they are are doing.
I do love how people boast about 6% Acceptance Rating. Totally understand you have to make money, and don't take trash.
But these delivery companies have ZERO reason to reward people who decline everything. They want orders moved, period.
What could happen is that they will start only sending junk $2.00 orders to the low AR drivers. That will force the hand of the driver to then do one of three things:
#1 Quit the app all together (They won't miss you by the way if you do lol)
#2 Go hourly ( this would keep you busy, but you will be taking all those left over $2 non tippers)
#3 Raise you Acceptance Rating (to get past 50% or whatever, so you can get yourself some sort of priority to seeing better paying orders)
But this is just my two cents, from my experiences of different markets and over 1,500 deliveries completed.
Not true that higher acceptance rate gets you access to higher paying or more orders. I have all of the stats needed except the 100 orders in the last 30 days and I'm in one of the markets where this is being rolled out. The app glitches constantly. Either it freezes on order acceptances or on the GPS or on the final drop-off and sometimes I'll have the order in my car and if I haven't screenshotted the delivery address to put into Waze (at which point I have to pray the app will unfreeze and come back to life after restarting my phone or force quitting the app) then I'm S.O.L. Customer service has been a nightmare--not VIP at all. And I often can only schedule an hour at a time per day ahead, which is bullshit since then I am only guaranteed to dash one hour a day, so how am I supposed to get the 100 orders? Doordash has basically told me it's not their fault or problem.
I have 1,811 trips with 4.99 customer rating 100% completion and acceptance rate. In my market it’s $16.25 hourly and I always take that. When I wait at McDonald’s with the Cherry pickers they get mad because DoorDash always gives me orders before them. I have no problem with this program and I hope it comes to Pittsburgh
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing