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- The Baltimore Ravens beat down the Buffalo Bills 35-10, led by a stellar performance by Lamar Jackson. Colin Cowherd says that Jackson is still very under appreciated in the NFL, and that there’s a real cause for concern for the New York Jets following their loss to the Denver Broncos.
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Colin is really putting his neck on the line for these, " Lamar Jackson is good" and "Johnny Manziel isn't" takes in 2024. Man is
ahead of his time
Lamar is a Hall of Famer already.
For those that don’t agree: all he needs to do is beat Mahomes ONCE in the playoffs to get to the Super Bowl and then go crazy against an NFC team that likely hadn’t played against Lamar in a long time. If all it takes is one win to cement a first-ballot Hall of Fame career then I believe he’s already in
That's crazy to think about. As long as he can just get to the Superbowl he'll be at a massive advantage against whoever he meets. He's 21-1 against the NFC.
That’s the funny part of Lamar. He’s gonna have a harder time in the playoffs leading up to it than he will in the actual Super Bowl.
If Jayden Daniels progresses well from his already good start, Lamar’s success against the nfc is gonna go down a little bit. Obviously it’s not the same, but Jayden Daniels is Lamar like, but he is proving that he came into the league with great decision making skills, which took Lamar a couple of years to refine. The Raven’s Super Bowl window is probably about 2-3 years with the current construction of the roster. After that I think that both other AFC teams will be better and the NFC with have more practice against similar QBs
@@smh0825 he has nothing besides fugazi awards
Anything can. Burrow/ some other QB can Clip the Chiefs for the Ravens and then Ravens take care of whoever that is. SB is SB .
Absolutely love the respect Colin gives Lamar.
Lamar gets 0 respect until he makes a superbowl. PERIOD!
@@Freerider93 ctfu kid. Your opinion is irrelevant because he has 2 mvps kid 😂
@@melaninknowledge3658 It's not an opinion, it's fact. Lamar is kool-aid in the playoffs. Take your emotions out of it.
@@Freerider93 we're in the the regular season kid, it isn't the playoffs 😆 you haters keep moving the goal post after Lamar prevails
Both are Capricorns, that’s why
Derrick Henry runs for 200 yards and Lamar is "under-appreciated"....LOL Everything is about the Qbs
Agreed 💯
Lamar also had 3 TD and shoudve had 4 if it wasn’t for a drop
Part of the reason Henry can be so productive is that defenses have to defend Lamar’s running and passing capability, you’re simple not very intelligent if you don’t understand QB is by far the most integral position to the entire offense
@@jarhead1031ye its not like he was the best running back for years on a team with ryan tannehill at qb 😂
@@Bobbleheads56and now it’s even worse when you have the best running qb to play the game who also has improved with his passing
Nobody talks about how last offseason the ravens told LJ he can look for a trade - and no teams made any plausible moves to get him. I thought that was super weird, and it’s never brought up somehow. How did everyone pass on him
Because the Ravens were never trading a 2-time MVP in his prime lol No team was going to lock up cash flow in making an offer just so the Ravens can match. Wasn't that deep
Because you would have to build your entire offense around him like Baltimore did. Because he's never gonna beat anybody from the pocket. Because he's CHOKED under pressure every single year in the playoffs, not "had a bad game," but flat out wilted under pressure. Thats why.
@@charlesplymail17212x mvp
@@charlesplymail1721lies
It's called Collusion
Saying Derrick Henry is only good because of lamar is laughable
Henry has been a monster forever.
Great handoffs by Lamar! 😂
He’s not saying that. I’m running back that has Lamar Jackson has way bigger open lanes because of him. It makes Henry’s job easier.
Steve Young is a Lamar Jackson fan.
Facts
So is Peyton manning son
It seems silly to call Lamar Jackson under-appreciated when he’s a 2-time regular season MVP. He’s not my favorite QB. Not even close, but I had predicted Balty would be the team most-likely to dethrone KC at the end of the season. I’m not sure if they actually will, but I have no hatred for the Ravens because of the simple fact that they’re the Steelers biggest rival, haha!
Exactly! Hes just in that Peyton portion of his career. He has to win, you have 2 mvps, And couple playoff wins. The Scrutiny is deserved.
Incorrect, Lamar is the most polarized QB we have ever seen. Lamar has one the best win rates in the league since hes been drafted and has one of the best records in prime time games , but still get hate because he likes to do slot of play action
@@Oceanz08you bring up “win percentage” when he has a 2-4 record in the playoffs
@@Oceanz08 I think you’re exaggerating on that first point, but there’s no way to disagree on the rest of your statement. Often times, what causes fans to dislike a player is the way they handle themselves around the media or the public. He seems aloof, at times. For some reason, that has never translated well with the majority of fans, but I think the day he hoists a SB trophy, that’ll all be forgotten. Just MY opinion, of course.
@@Oceanz08 2 playoff wins, 2 mvps. Lamar would look you in your eyes and tell you himself, that he needs to be better. You think a guy like Kobe or jordan, or even brady, would care about 2 mvps with a 2 and 4 record in the postseason?? Cmon man.
Lamar’s sideline back shoulder throws were perfect accuracy too
Aaron Rodgers is washed.
And now we know what GB saw at the end . But Rodgers focused on trying to get Gutekunst fired. Enjoy NY.
Colin you’re about the only person who’s the lead of a show that champions Lamar and it’s appreciated
Yeah. Agreed 💯
You obviously don't know what Colin said about Lamar before the draft and during his first years in the NFL! At least he publicly admitted he was very wrong...
@@OG172.that’s what makes it better because he actually acknowledges he was wrong and changed his opinion
@@OG172.That's before the draft. If he was saying that now while he's so dominant then you'd have a point
@@guyfromnewarkdominant in the regular season and choke-artodt in the playoffs. Facts.
Yeah but Colin you just said he was the 11th best QB in the league On your list last week. 🤦🏾♂️ He’s top five at the least. Lost credibility talking 5:11 Lamar after that.
He was ranking QB’s on how clutch they are and he put him at 10th
So you’re not gonna give the Denver Broncos Defense credit?!?! C’mon now. Give respect where it is due.
Bro needs to stop with ending with me it’s unc Colin… stop stealing Shannon stuff. So cringe
The fact that you had people debating who’s better between Lamar and hurts a few years ago is just insane
S/O to my Broncos defense! They dominated this game
Collin you flip flop every day your opinion sucks 😅
Maybe if Rodgers shows up off season & works with his offense to work out kinks 🙄 Not good to do 4 games into season.
LOL. Wasn't GB saying that for years?
All those excuses for Rodgers all he has to do was score a touchdown
Bills played cupcakes the first three weeks. We all said this.
Steve Young was better than Lamar is now!
I think Lamar is a great QB but chill out on saying he’s better than Steve Young dude🤣 that was a CRAZY statement. Young wasn’t just a running QB. Young was an A+ passing QB who could also run the football.
Colin is often a prisoner of the moment...
Colin's football knowledge is minimal.
Steve youngs career passer rating is far below Lamar's. Lamar is eighth ALL TIME in passer rating.
How many PPR does Steve young have? Lamar is one away from having the record. Steve young also had better receivers than lamar . Lamar has the best record as a starter for his age
Colin is the male Mina Kimes.
Lmao "i'll give Aaron Rodgers credit" then proceeds to rail against him "he wasn't very accurate. he didn't play particularly well. I don't know how to describe the cadence issues. . ." Is that how you begin to give someone credit?
That's the way Colin has always been. Give credit to anyone or anything, then, in the same breath, proceed to trash them. He must suffer from severe whiplash.
jets might not make it to the playoffs
Colins definition of big games is flawed, and for some reason he mentions KC when talking about it. He kills Dak for his 2-5 playoff record when Lamar is 2-4 and has thrown at least one pick in all 4 of those losses.
Lamar beats good teams Dak doesn't duh
@@sullaybjr he doesn't in the playoffs, so big whoop
@@jonkelley9021 Ima tell you what Lamar will win a chip. Dak will never ever
@@sullaybjr okay good luck with that, but here in reality they're tied for playoff wins 😂😂.
@@jonkelley9021 Ok we shall see. Good luck with Dak 😂
how can you say Lamar Jackson is under appreciated. Once he gets a chip there is nothing else for him to win lol. Who says Lamar isn't an S tier QB?
alot of media pundits. they would literally ranked him as a tier 2 QB..
@@midofmidlifewhich pundits ?
Lots of people. He is great with a running game and top defense. Stop his running game and force him to be a pocket passer and hes terrible. He's amazing for the system Harbaugh built around him but trying to make him more than that is idiotic. Ravens defense held the Bills to 10 points and Henry had 20p yards but its all about LJ 😂😂😂
I guess you haven’t been listening to the media discourse around Lamar this season lol
Public enemy #1 is Colin’s buddy Nick Wright
Because lamar is bro. Lamar is the most disrespected 2x mvp QB I've seen. They will put QBs with less accomplishments over him. Lamar never gets the benefit of the doubt until he goes out and prove it. He never gets the excuses other QBs get after they lose.
Vick, kaepernick, Cunningham, all great running QBs🤷🏿♂️
"I don't want to hear he can't win big games"........then lists a bunch of regular season wins to refute it. Lamar can't win more than 1 playoff game in a season so far, so the criticism is reasonable, if not necessarily fair.
2019: Lost the first playoff game
2020: Won the wild card, lost in the 2nd round
2021: Missed the playoffs
2022: Lost the wild card game
2023: Won the first game, lost in the conference championship
Lamar's shown improvement, but so far he hasn't played as good in the playoffs as the regular season. I.e., in Big Games.
I don’t understand how THIS game is the game where Colin was like “Lamar’s under appreciated.” Defense shut down the bills and Henry literally had 200 yards during the game. But yeah let’s talk about Lamar. 😂
And once again Colin is off basis like always of course Lamar has a great record against the NFC but he acts like he's doing it by himself he has had a top 10 defense almost every single year except for twice or once but of course it's all Lamar even though Patrick Mahomes is 31 and 5 against his division but again no big deal.
Lmfao and mahomes hasn’t including a top ten offense get real
Mahomes is the best QB in the league, but 31-5 against a division that the teams barely make the divisional round is not something to boast about. Not to mention Mahomes has one of the best offensive minds ever as his coach and arguably on of the best TEs in football history.
Strawman: "Y'all tell me you love athletic quarterbacks."
No we don't. We want QBs who can pass extremely well, first and foremost. If they can do that AND move around well, great. Or rush 30 yards for a TD sometimes, even better. But passing is first.
Lamar is the best player to ever play in the NFL. SUPErbowl is coming this year
Don’t worry this Raven’s run up the score on the Bills last night was just an anomaly, why? Because the next time the Ravens face the Bills or any other good team, John Harbaugh will sit Derrick Henry on the bench, have Lamar throw 43 passes most of them incomplete, and tell Lamar to not run out of the pocket for extra yards, just like he did in the Chiefs AFC championship game last year.
Tell me I’m lying or exaggerating Ravens fans! You know Harbaugh always goes back to the opposite of what’s working because what’s working is NOT how John Harbaugh wants to win games. Truthfully, John Harbaugh was probably very uncomfortable running up the score on the Chiefs and beating them 35 to 10 because he’s a deep believer in sportsmanship and not rubbing your opponents nose in the dirt when you’re beating them. Harbaugh prefers a 24-20, 27-24, 31-27, 17-14 type of game.
When it comes to mahomes it’s more so being out coached. Andy out coaches John. Many times Ravens could have beat the Chiefs but it was always some magical lucky play that got them over.
talk to me in January or February you don’t get paid 220 million for winning games in September October and November and he’s won two playoff games in six years and he’s lost more home playoff games then he’s won
I'm glad Colin is doing that , Excuses was always made for Lawrence and Herbert failures
Lamar is an exceptional.athlete and a mediocre QB it's not a riddle. It's not hard to understand.
That’s false
Gotta be white
Colin is 100% right. Lamars is way better than the criticism he gets. Last year, the regular season was a show case. Most of the teams that made the playoffs, Lamar already blew them out! People are upset with Colin for breaking code and not crapping on Lamar as a a team sport. Lamar changed the way QBs are evaluated. Which closed the door for the Tom Brady types. People resent him for that and exposing their bias.
This why Colin is why I like Colin's takes. He the Dave Chappell of sport media pundits! He too, was a Lamar hater. But I got to give it to him, he turned early! Him Eeason and Sim were his only media defenders. Everybody else keeps moving the goal posts, when it comes to Lamar.
Lamar is the most appreciated qb , get all the flowers for the ravens regular season success , mvps , and nobody mentions him for his playoffs mediocrity
Denver is obviously better than what everyone thought give them credit New York didn’t lose that game Denver won it
I love Lamar but damn Colin, prisoner of the moment much? They lost to the raiders
Huh? People love Lamar. Only criticism I've seen of him (and it's fair) is that he hasn't performed his best in post-season play.
He's a two time MVP. I think the dude is super likable and it seems like most folks feel the same way. Incredibly fun to watch.
About as out - of - touch as Collins ever been.
when Lamar is on his game they are unstoppable , now add in Henry , lookout.
Get off Rogers. Colin, you are just like him. Colin is the male Mina Kimes. Where is your Ram's praise. 49ers are overrated. Root for real teams. Lamar is not clutch and can not pass.
Lamar is amazing in the regular season he just doesn’t do that in the playoffs
If Ravens RB Derrick Henry stays healthy, this could be a REAL SB run for The Ravens. As a Lifelong Detroit Lions fan 2 teams bring me concern. The Vikings who basically have 2 HCs. 1 on both sides of the football, and what's so concerning is that they are making it work. Vikings QB Sam Darnold looks fantastic. The other is The Ravens. Last year they beat the brakes off of The Lions. As for tonight's MNF,I believe that The Lions maintain Ford Field/Motown home advantage. Lions 27 Seahawks 24 in a nail biter.
How is he under appreciated? He's won Heisman trophy and 2 NFL MVPs! He needs to prove he can win the big one like all his other contemporary not named Mahomes. He lost to the Chiefs at home when it mattered.
Your always a head of the crowd none of the other major media guys never keep it real about Lamar but you
Ravens found their formula: run Henry out of Pistol or WTH Lamar under Center; then let Lamar do what he needs to do on the ground or through the air 🏈✌️💜
Regular normal people dont apprrciate Lamar and talk trash on him. The actual nfl players know the truth and that is Lamar is the truth.
silly segment. everyone loves lamar. side note colin hows it working out in the playoffs?
Im a steelers fan so i got no love for baltimore. I cant believe lamar doesnt get hurt but i respect lamar i think he has the potential to dethrone mahomes lamar is 21-1 agaisnt the nfc😂 i just wish he was more accurate sometimes hes erratic.
Nathaniel Hackett ruined Breece Hall. Look up his numbers when Mike Lafleur was there
Only people who don't really like Lamar in the first place was would think that he's not unappreciated when all he does is just gets scrutinized every single day
Buffalo could still be the best team in the league, every team has a loss in a season it just happens at least theirs isnt the raiders coming back down ten
No concern for the Jets because anyone who has ever watched football knew they were gonna suck.
Lamar is a 2 time MVP, he’s not under appreciated.
I love the Lamar haters, you can see the disgust on their faces when he (often) plays well.
Start being real man. He can absolutely beat KC 75% of the time. He can't beat the refs period.
You dont watch football do you?
Say it again! We all know kc have the refs in their back pocket
@@charlesplymail1721 he does! that's why he said that kid
I don't know why now people are realizing Saleh is a terrible coach
Colin will be calling him a playoff choker in a few months 😂😂😂
Colin nobody under appreciated Lamar Jackson
nobody said buffalo was the best team in the world actually
Lamar is a beast, but he’s not a thick trunky coastal kid.
Colin “the kid Lamar Jackson” Cowherd
He lost me when he put Henry and jk dobbens in the same sentence 🤣🤣
And come playoff time Lamar dominates nobody anymore
“Mark Andrews the tight end” lololol he’s on the roster for sure.
All we need now is a Brady like offensive line
Lamar is brittle and makes bad decisions
Regulator season games aren't "big"
RB dominant this year/ Season 🔥
Daniel has passed from cancers 0:00
Lamar is the Regular Season MVP there's no stopping him until the Clutch.
Thank you Colin!! 🎯
2-4 in the playoffs
Talk about Seattle please.
Lamar Jackson is still 2-4 in the postseason (0-1 vs Josh Allen) and has two worthless MVP awards blowing it as the first seed twice. Joe Flacco won four postseason games in 2012 alone.
What you bringing up Josh Allen for
Hey Colin, nobody’s disputing that he’s not a great quarterback, and I don’t know what you’re referring to his MVP was the worst statistical MVP of all time look it up
It’s very simple. Do you win in January and February he’s won two games in five years.
Do you think Lamar could’ve dueled with Patrick Mahomes like Josh Allen in 2021?
Has he ever won a road playoff game? I know there’s only two games to choose from, but this whole narrative that he doesn’t get respect is ridiculous
Let’s just call it what it is the media wants black QBs to succeed so bad to be the best in the league and you guys don’t think that Patrick Mahomes is: “black enough ”
I literally put it on my Facebook. I enjoy watching black quarterbacks or athletic quarterbacks way more than pocket quarterbacks, but we also gotta be honest with each other.
To anyone who still thinks Lamar is terrible. A running back. Stupid. Whatever you think. Ask yourself why people like Brady and Steve Young champion Lamar when you don't.
Didn’t ask
Collin is the only person with a show that respects and values Lamar. Lamar is the best player in the NFL. Yes Mahomes is the best qb but Lamar changes how you defend everyone on his offense
No, the system Harbaugh created to accommodate LJs skill is amazing. Lamar is a freak athlete but an avg QB at best - needs a big running game and top defense, take the running game away and he can't throw.
Lamar can win big games until January. Out of six playoff games, he has two wins with a completion percentage of 57% and 6 TDs to 6 INTs
The fact we're in the regular season and you have to talk about previous post-seasons just shows how hurt you are kid 😂😂 keep coping
Baltimore is a good front runner if you at all hinder their run game success…they are not a good team. Lamar, is not a good passer. This is why they have had 0 success in the playoffs. Because scheme wise teams are better coached and have a season worth of film. He can’t win with his arm. He’s a more athletic Jalen Hurts. Ravens have lost 7 out of their last 8 games to the Steelers, who have had a pathetic offense over the last 3-4years, because they are able to take away the run game.
Stop being a hater. Nobody is perfect. Stop being negative. What about the good he does ? Y’all love to hate on another man
I swear to god this guy said Lamar’s nfc record in every single video
Hurts for you to hear it huh?
Oh hear we go
Lamar is overrated Colin. He can’t throw.
Ya right 💀 u all sound so dumb
Lizard 🦎
The true test of elite play is maintaining it...
....is reproducing it in the playoffs, when it counts
Top Show !
If Lamar Jackson was a good QB… he would be Jayden Daniels
Dude plays 4 games and hes a HOFer
The NFL had fewer concussions when they wore leather helmets?
Guys weren't as big and running at each other with full force
i looked this up actually, and the first year the NFL ever had without a recorded death was after the plastic helmets were introduced. they had less concussions cause they were dying of head injuries back then.
Lamar had a solid performance last night, as I knew he would. But he wasn't the main star of the show. That would be King Henry. The last time the Ravens had a bellcow RB it was 2019 with Mark Ingram. (Ironic since Mr Big Truzz was the Legend of the Game last night) What a difference having that bellcow does for a team like this. Once the King broke that 87 yard TD run I knew it was going to be a long night for Buffalo. And BillsMafia knows this very well because Henry mostly dominated them when he was a Titan. To me Henry is the best RB in football when he's firing on all cylinders, and games like this is exactly why. With that being said, this is a scary sight for the entire AFC. Lamar not having to do everything on his own for the most part is a daunting task for opposing teams to prepare for. Cincy you're next.
Ingram was old and broken down stop it he’s not in Henry class
@@Trina78 I know but before Ingram got hurt at the end of 2019, he was a beast for the Ravens. He put up career highs in TDs and yards from scrimmage.
Lamar is great but he isn’t under appreciated and isn’t the story to this game. Derrick Henry and the ravens pass rush is.
so Lamar doesn’t exist ?
@@charliedorsey5946what? I literally said he’s great. Are you dumb?
If i merely note that Lamar has CHOKED in every playoffs he's ever been in, I'm a hater? GTF outta here. How 'bout everyone who calls me a hater is, in fact, blinded by race-based emotion or Baltimore bias or just plain football- stupid?
Yet he's still better statically and accomplishment wise than everybody except mahomes genius
Race based bias?
What are you on dude 🤦🏿♂️
Lamar is James Harden and I'm not falling for it. He has MVPs and sucks in the playoffs
Why are you commenting then?
Based off your comments you would only be round playoffs time
Wrong, Lamar is pre-2021 Giannis, and hopefully King Henry plays the role of Jrue Holiday.
I haven’t heard Jason talk in maybe 3 months
I know, it's so weird. He literally says less than Joy or the co-host before him did. I get the sense that Colin really doesn't like him.
Love Lamar, but don’t use Derrick Henry’s 200 yard day to praise the QB. Yall just buried Lamar and the ravens 2 weeks ago
And I'll bury them right now: making the playoffs just results in another CHOKE game from Lamar. Do you seriously believe all those horrible playoff games were councidence? Did you watch them?
How did Henry get the 200 yards kid? Because lamar was injured the field. You kids really don't know how football works, yall just watch the games 😂. Lamar also had 3 tds and a 138 passer rating to go with it
They gave Lamar an MVP last year when he wasn’t even top 5 in TD’s, Yards or any other QB metric there is. He is NOT “under appreciated”. He’s a great regular season QB who doesn’t show up in the Playoffs
He got to the afc championship game. His first time there. Y’all keep hating but he keeps improving on y’all haters
Colin going 1-4 on his Blazin 5 again is classic Colin 😮
He's 1-3, only win was Baltimore - is on Seattle tonight
@@notoriousLSGshow I can see the future, lions win 38-31! Now shut up talking to me you loser!