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1911 Derangement Syndrome: A Clinical Discussion
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I'm 58. For a lot of folks my age (and older) we grew up probably thinking the only auto that ever mattered was the 1911. Antiquated or not, it's iconic for a reason.
Millions and millions of soldiers can't be wrong. The 1911 gets the job done.
@@davidkachel yep. I don't even own one, but it was the first semi-auto I ever shot, way back in boot camp.
@@Chris_the_Dingo They have improved quite considerably since the original slab side. No more hammer bite, far better sights, smoother operation, fewer malfunctions, even better triggers. I especially like the handful of bobtail versions available.
If it ain't broke (AND IT AIN'T), don't fix it! Personally, I'll take a plain Jane, GI type m1911a1 or a .38 Special snub nose revolver any day.
@@matthewrobinson4323 There's a 1911 on my hip as I write this, but my winter coat has a S&W snubby in it. The 1911 can do a lot of jobs, but fitting into a pocket ain't one of them. And for that matter, functioning flawlessly in a pocket ain't one, either! ;-)
I've been packing a 1911A1 for over 50 yrs. Carried my 1911 that my dad bought in '67 just before I left for Vietnam and as a back up for over 30 yrs while in Law Enforcement, and still carry one today!! John M Browning was a true genius!!!
Any firearm that served with distinction in WWI, WWII, Korea, Viet Nam, and every conflict in between gets my respect and snappy salute...
You're right about defending yourself...what ever is available to defend your life that you can reasonably use...use it...
My uncle was digging out rocks in his yard with an Ames trenching tool, he had from service in Vietnam... He quietly said: "Had to use this once when we were overrun." I asked "What happened?" and with a weird angry look he said..."I'm still here."
so true, when my dads plane went down in viet nam he had no weapon at all, had to kill someone in a fight with by choking him, hands work too
Damn, that's hard.
It came to knife vs sword for my Dad in the Pacific. The knife was made by the ship's machinist from a 21" file blank, .
As he told it...
"A Jap officer charged me while I was reloading. I stepped inside his swing and drew my knife (from cross draw), spilling his guts on the deck. That doubled him over and the next blow took his head off."
He told this through tears that portrayed rage, anger, guilt, and grief all at the same time. That was 37 years ago, and I remember it like yesterday.
@@jacobmccandles1767 And I'm guessing that knife is why YOU'RE here today! Your Dad did what he had to do to get back home again...I'm glad he made it back!👍💯
I have three 1911s,I also have a g2c.
I kinda hear stuff along those lines with younger ‘kids’. I’m only 52. I talk to these guys about a 1911 or revolver & I can see their eyes glaze over. They only know Glock or Sig Sauer. Nothing else. I mean no other brands period. Weird. Pick up a book or magazine. You could learn quite a bit.
So much of the internet is "Stop liking things I don't like".
Internet? At least you have choices. With mainstream media it's march in a lockstep or have no voice.
I’ve gone back to carrying 1911 pistols, and currently carry a Dan Wesson commander in…. 9mm.😮 Before carrying revolvers a few years ago, a customer at the LGS told me carrying a .45 1911 was no different than carrying a Colt Mustang. I laughed, and he was not happy.
Kids!
NDS sometimes referred to as Richard Noggin syndrome here in the less refined part of the country. These same NDS sufferers give us grief over the M1A and the M14 also. Thank you for another insightful episode.
I've experienced that at the range with my M1A too. I get a laugh at some 20-30 year old kid telling me that the M1A is obsolete as a battle or defensive weapon. They shut up a little when I start banging the steel at 200 & 300 yd with iron sights and 60 year old eyes, while the're doing the same things with a scope, and my gong hits are NOTICEABLY louder than theirs. But the funny thing is, when I break out the US RIFLE CAL30 M1, They beg me to let them shoot it. F*** 'em! They can play with their ARs
This is one of the best public service announcements I've ever seen. These people need help and you've given them directions toward the road to recovery. I personally believe that anyone using a 1911 should be given a tax deduction each year. Semper Fi.
Semper Fi Charles!
That was very funny. A tax deduction indeed!
I think it is a generational thing.
My EDC is an Ed Brown 1911 commander sized Kobra Carry. Love this very reliable stainless steel gun. It's fast from the draw and very accurate. I run 185 grain Hornaday Critical Defense rounds.
I'll bet that's a great pistol!
@hrfunk Oh man, worth every penny. Plus, it's my sidearm when Im pulling church security at our little church. I got my daughter the same gun as a law school graduation gift. Like me, she loves shooting the 1911. My mom's uncle, who was IRA from 1919 to 1921, carried a 1911 in the fight for Irish freedom. Those IRA boys all loved the 1911.
NDS can also be cured by purchasing a 1911 and learning to shoot it (therapy). A playing card size group at 7 yards does wonders to overcome fear and resentment.
NEVER ABANDONED THE 1911 45ACP
Great video! On a related note, I found it very interesting that when Massad Ayoob was asked what he'd choose if he could only have 5 guns, he answered 1. a 1911 .45 (as opposed to the now common 1911 9mm), 2. a small revolver for ankle carry, 3. a 12 gauge shotgun, 4. a .308 rifle and 5. another 1911 .45 for backup.
That's that cross eyed dude with the wig right? Oh he's good
@@LF12468 I got a couple of his books when I got a concealed permit in 1992. I’ve been a fan of his ever since. He’s real old school on lots of things but I get a kick out of him and have learned a lot from him
@@LF12468 LOL
OMG, I am howling! Perfect upload for a Thursday afternoon. And, BTW, I just ordered a new Colt 1911.
Good for you!
You sir are correct, the argument over whether 1911 pistols are still relevant or not is like asking if beans belong in chili!
No for a cook off, yes for the table, lol.
Don't bring another controversy HERE! Please!
If you knew beans about chili, you'd know chili has no beans !
They do! However, my girlfriend started to question that a few hours after I'd eaten a bowl the other day ...
Heck, around Cincinnatti they think spaghetti belongs in chili!
Very good tongue in cheek discussion. I haven’t handled a 1911 since my 1966 service in Viet Nam w/the Marines (Hospital Corpsman Third Class) so I should be OK.
Thank you sir…uncle in da nang and know a few SF vets and other great American heros…lifelong appreciation for what y’all done and always learnin more about nam…you watch spider parks on sogcast?.
No, not sure what sogcast is. I’m old and kind of low tech.
@@oldcop18 John Stryker myers podcast with Mac v sog survivors in Laos Cambodia…story’s hard to fathom…
Thx, I’ll check it out.
Welcome home Marine . I did as well , medic in lll Corp 25th I.D and others . Stay strong brother , ain't many of us still kicking .
Corporate needs you to find the difference between these two pictures:
.45 ACP b2b WW Champs / 10mm is best mm
- "They're the same picture."
I love the 1911, it will always be my favorite handgun and NO ONE can convince me otherwise
"Giggle snort!"
I have a Tisas 1911 in 45 acp as a direct result of your video covering that fantastic firearm. I absolutely love mine. Thank you
My pleasure. I still love mine too!
It's the boys vrs Men argument. When men were men the 1911 was it. The battle rifles were in .30 cal.. Now it is the 9mm and the .223.
IMHO a .45 caliber 1911 is a bit more difficult to shoot consistently. It can be done for sure, but most have to practice it.
I think it’s like, *I* would never want to carry and use a PPK, but if someone was most comfortable using that gun, then I’ve no room to tell them they’re wrong.
There will always be OBJECTIVE observations we can make regarding what a gun does or doesn’t do, but beyond that, it’s always going to come down to whatever the person feels best with.
What hurts the NDS sufferers the most is that we don’t care what they think 😅😅
I've always been a 1911 guy. I carry an M&P9 (full size & Shield) now, but would part with these much more easily than with my 1911s. Maybe because I'm 62 and grew up when M16s were jamming like crazy in Vietnam, and polymer sidearms didn't exist.
@Echosdad2
I’m 26 and I love 1911s.
Interesting, I am 62 as well and you cannot take my S&W9 m2.0 compact and Springfield 1911 from me. 🙂
See you proved my point lol 1911's are too heavy to carry everyday..polymer pistols are superior in every way ..1911's belong in museums LOL🤣
@@JP_Patriot that's sad 🤣
@@blackticalmayhem8461
How did anyone here “prove your point” that 1911s are “too heavy”? You sound like a little wimp. A 1911 is too heavy for you? 🤣 poor child.
Perhaps you should go see someone run a course with a 1911.
There’s literally no evidence showing that the 1911s are inferior. If anything, the 1911s record shows otherwise.
You’re just extremely ignorant. How sad.
😂
I think some people had a bad experience with a 1911 carrier (a mean range officer, condescending gun store clerk), and projected that resentment onto the weapon. Similar to the "Fudd" phenomenon.
FUDDS need to be rounded up and......never mind 🤣🤣
Pretty sure I am one
Another gun channel said the other day that the popularity of the 1911 is making a resurgence. I didn't know that they ever went away, they have been keeping pace with the Tupperware guns since the 90s. I must admit that I have bought a polymer wonder for summer carry( xds mod 2 45 cal) but I always return to my 1911s. Like the Porsche ads used to say, 1911, there is no substitute!!!
A 1911 was the first pistol type I bought. It was the only pistol I had for over a decade. I still carry that gun, and I don't intend to change that. I have other more modern pistols. Sometimes they get carried, but I know what I like - and I know what I operate most effectively.
I just have a problem with old" Fudds" telling me that modern striker-fired pistols aren't good as 1911's that's where they need to just shut up 🙄
@BlackticalMayhem84 well, what do you consider good?
Fully agree with you. I could say I use a Ruger Blackhawk for defense and people would say, well that is kid of odd. However, you get very extreme views on the 1911.
Yep. That's what started me thinking about NDS!
Great discussion, I also have a government 1911, in big part because my grandfather (career Marine) carried one in WWII. Mine is not for self defense, really just for fun times at the range, which it has flawlessly done for 15 years now.
Hope to one day get to meet you at Camp Butner, or Camp Perry, keep it going with your RUclips channel, I’ve enjoyed your work for years.
Thank you, Kim!
The 1911 is forever
Your belt and holster look great! Please show closeup when you have them on. I highly recommend the Tisas stainless steel Carry (4.2” barrel)
Here's a review I did a while back: ruclips.net/video/2UXpIBmP7KM/видео.html
The 2A community is irrational and tribal, I remember being brand new to the community in 2016 and the GunTube was an endless ocean of people saying all you need is a Glock 19 and an AR15 and don’t bother with anything else.
Now it’s like they’ve moved in from that and went to, Now you need a Sig P365 or a 10mm and a 6k dollar custom hand built rifle, because off the shelf brands are traitors and corporate greed, chambered in some brand new hyper caliber and 10k dollars worth of scope, NVG, helmet, tactical plates, and more before you can even be considered a true gun owner.
Also, these are the same people who say you need the bestest most expensive hurtenbergerbuscaderoticonda 9mm self defense ammo while sneering at Winchester White Box 45 ACP 230 JHP
And don’t even say the words 40 Smith and Wesson to these people or they’ll have aneurisms
You have gained a great deal of wisdom since 2016!
I carried a 1911 for the majority of my law enforcement career. In the early 80's I found a custom built Colt series 70 government model that served me until retirement. This gun was costly for the time and as my agency required us to furnish our own firearms, I took the expense of this gun as a tax deduction. I was subjected to a tax audit that year and of course the gun came up for question because of its price. My accountant said he didn't understand that deduction either because you could buy a gun for hundred dollars. The auditor responded saying, 'This deduction is allowed, in the work he does he needs the best gun he can get.' Yes, I got a tax deduction for a 1911.
Well said. Curiously enough, I just looked up NDS in a Physician's Desk Reference, but I found nothing. I also couldn't find any references to Glocks, Operators, or anything tactically related. But when I looked up 1911, I found a picture of a red pill.
I think it's in the early draft version of DSM-VI.
The 1911 is more popular now than it has ever been.
Lol!!! Great content!! I love 1911's. I own 4, but I don't carry any of them for EDC. I have 2 family members that do, and I say good on them. I am a DA/SA guy. I catch almost as much grief from the striker tards. I have 30 handguns in my safe, and only carry 4 of them. The more experience one has with different platforms and different manual of arms, the more accepting one can be of someone else's choice. They all work. They are all just tools. Craftsmen always have preference in their tools, but can get the job done with whatever is available. The guys who only have a plastic striker fire seem to talk the most trash . The gun legends alive today, Bill Wilson, Ken Hackathon, Ernest Langdon and HR Funk, all did it with classic hammer fired steel guns, revolvers and semi auto
Thank you, Troy! Seriously, though, my name does not belong in that list!
@@hrfunk way to be modest. With your experience in law enforcement and/or military I’d say you deserve a little more credit than you give yourself even though you don’t have the name fame as those guys.
Troy I can pretty much agree with everything you said but I wouldn’t call people striker tards. Some of those same gun legends you mentioned and others not mentioned also sometimes carry or endorse some form of striker fired handgun. I’m guilty of being a gun whore. I like da/sa, striker fired, and sao all the same. People just can’t voice their opinion without insulting others over their preference. I remember a 45 acp fanatic getting to the point where he was calling me everything but a child of god because I didn’t agree with him that 45 acp is the best defensive handgun caliber even though i admitted I carry 45’s probably at least a 3rd of the time. There no right or wrong choice in handgun platform or caliber, just what works for you. With that said i think I’m finally starting to lean over to the 10mm side of things.
@@protectiverailroaddad7541 Well sir, I'm not worried about hurting anyone's feelings. I own several striker fire. I don't carry them and I definitely don't tell anyone that they are the end all be all. If a striker fire person acts like a jackass I'm going to call them a tard. As far as the Legends, yes, they all got into striker for revenue, whether their business is production or training. They've all adapted to the trend for business, not because strikers are their favorite
@@troyspurling1910 strikers have been trending for a long time now. It just so happens my favorite striker fired pistol is also my favorite da/sa pistol, the Walther p99. Everyone will have their favorites but I don’t think these legends would endorse striker fired guns if they didn’t believe in them. The are not the type of guys to stand behind a product for monetary reasons only. They have to work and work well. If you like da/sa handguns good for you, I do as well. I have owned or currently own cz’s, hk’s, sigs, berettas, and walther p99’s. All fantastic da/sa firearms but I can’t say they are better than the striker fired guns I own (glocks, ppq/pdp, p320, m&p’s). They all do what I need them to, just a little different. I can care less about hurting anyone’s feelings as well, just calling people striker tards because they prefer striker fired guns seems a bit immature. But then again striker fired fanatics who think their Glock is the end all be all is a bit immature as well. Just to give you an idea of the kind of firearms I’m currently using as defense pistols to see I’m no striker tard here goes. Currently carrying a sig p220 in 45 acp, nightstand handgun is a glock 35 gen4 with 22 round magazine and weapon light, gun staged in my living room is a Walther pdp compact 5” with 15 round magazine with Taran tactical +6 baseplate and red dot sight, gun staged in my computer/office area is a hk p30. I also carry a cz p01 on occasion as well as a full-size 1911. Like I said, I’m a gun whore lol
Another Geezer checking in. I absolutely love the 1911. But so do my kids and grandkids.
A couple fast comments follow:
1. Bravo for House of Payne Ammunition, its accuracy and muzzle velocity obviously are first rate.
2. I’m not a fan of +P+ rounds, especially in 9x19mm, due to potential firearms ware and premature malfunctions (even all steel one, such as the CZ 75B series).
3. It’s interesting that the .357 Sig also resides in this same general “ammunition category.”
@Mike P
However, isn’t the truly critical matter “near instantaneous” hits that lawfully terminate the felons’ illegal and imminently mortal actions? Essentially all handguns are poor killers (80+ percent of those hit by handgun rounds survive). I’d suggest that, with a top quality defensive projectile, fired from any the popular sidearm chamberings (9x19 and .38 Special +P . . . and larger), essentially are equally effective. ACCURACY is the vital variable.
Great video HR. No NDS here. I carried a 1911 pistol for about 30 years in the past. While I do not carry one today, I would have no qualm in doing so. The 1911 will always be an outstanding pistol.
There's a mindset these days that you must have a striker fired pistol that has a capacity of 17 rounds, an FDE finish, an infrared thermal bluetooth enabled RDS, a weapon mounted light that can be used as an arc welder, carry multiple spare 30 round mags, body armor, and have trained to be a 10th level tactical ninja ghost warrior. Otherwise, when a crack head tries to break into your home, you will be killed, brought back to life, killed again and your soul will be cast into the lake of fire.
That said, my current stable of concealed carry guns include;
1. Kimber Ultra Ten II .45ACP (10 round mag)
2. Glock G30, also .45ACP with a 10 round mag
3. S&W Shield Plus (Performance Center)
4. Glock 26
5. Glock 23 (OMG, a 40 S&W??? WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU! lol)
If I'm out in the field or weather conditions permit me to carry a full size;
1. Kimber Classic Target, 45ACP (my absolute favorite defense piece)
2. Glock G20 10mm (that's better)
3. Kimber Stainless Target II 10mm
4. Glock 21 45ACP
5. Kimber Stainless Target II 38 Super +P
If compatibility with others in certain situations;
6. SIG P320 9mm
7. Glock G34 Gen 5
I never feel under gunned with any of these.
I would not imagine so. By the way, your opening statement really did make me laugh out loud!
😂👍
Even though I carried a 686, 4506 and lastly a block 22 for over 30 years. My wilson combat and my colts have never let me down.
Good discussion HR, closing photo was funny!
Of all of the pistols that I have carried and owned, my favorite is a Dan Wesson Specialist 1911, it is better made, smoothest and more accurate than my Kimber, Colt and Sig Sauer - ALL of which are chambered in 45ACP.
But, to each his/her own. You choose the firearm and caliber, then train with it.
Just don't even think of deriding anyone who carries a handgun, one that after +100 years in production, fought several wars and is still in production is a bad choice!
I have used 45ACP and 40S&W caliber pistols to defend and protect myself and others and will continue to do so for the rest of my life!
Great video. Love the solution for people suffering from NEDS. I am on a few online forum sites for not just guns, but cars also and there are always "those" people who strive for validation by bashing other brands in favor of their choice. Social media has created an entire generation of "keyboard-commandos" who jump on anything they disagree with in any topic. I agree that the 1911 brings out the bashers. Even when I am at the range shooting my carry gun, a government sized Colt 1911 in .45 acp, they give me that stink eye glance as they pull out their latest "Gucci" Glock wearing a plate carrier and duty belt like they are some Spec Ops guy about to storm a South American drug lord's jungle compound. These are usually younger guys all wrapped up in that "tacti-cool" stuff. I love shooting the 1911 and I am totally content and confident that it will defend me and my family if I ever face a bad guy intent on doing great bodily harm or death to me or my family. Haters gonna hate. Thanks again Howard.
My pleasure, Steve. Thanks for watching!
I remember when tacti-cool was just having a utility belt with a holster and some canvas mag pouches.
That was great 👍 👏 . Excellent diagnosis. In 100 years from now, the glock fan boys will have long since burst into flames and returned to dust. However, new and improved versions of 1911, as well as the original models will still be the primary discussion 😀 😉 👍
Thanks!
This is true -- and think about the fact that Glock earned its current "must-have" reputation through military and LEO issuance & use. Many people just say, "I want what ______ uses" and the blank has a mil branch or LEO branch inserted. And here we have hrfunk, USMC and LEO, sniper & instructor, vast experience, Chief, telling us how it is.
The Glock will have its place in firearms history, that's already carved in granite. But it didn't displace the 1911 as the superior machine, overall, as a complete machine. The Glock, instead, carved its own niche in history -- first reliable, multi-use-done&demonstrated polymer frame pistol. But that trigger. And the grip ergos. Better than 1911? (oh did we talk about capacity for shooters who know they'll never train, ever?)
Well said, I've never had NDS. While serving in the NAVY during the early to mid-1960s my duty sidearm was the 1911 in 45 ACP. I carry one to this day.
Talking with a friend’s son, I was informed that “revolvers don’t interest me.” Former military and still employees in the defense industry, said tactical know-it-all told me that bolt action rifle “sucks because it’s striker fired.” I was so stunned I couldn’t respond. Hell, a Mauser 98 is striker fired son!
You make an excellent point. No one attacks another gun owner for liking a Mauser or a Winchester Model 70. They are fantastic bolt action rifles. Only a fool would tell you that a Smith & Wesson Registered Magnum is antiquated junk. Every man in America wants a Winchester Model 1873 lever action rifle, even if they don’t know it yet. But that 1911… 😂
Yep. That 1911…..
I've always told folks who never shot a 1911 that they are unique. That I expected they would love or hate it once they actually had the chance to shoot one. I find that to be true, having introduced several friends over the years to the platform. Most fell on the side of appreciating and liking them.
I think if most new shooters paid attention to what feels mechanically sound in their hands, shoots well for them -- and didn't listen to the marketing pressures to "need" 15+ rds capacity, most would choose a 1911 because overall, it feels like the most refined machine compared to the vast majority of striker-fired polymer pistols. I didn't get a chance to shoot a 1911 until I was about 1500 rds into my journey of handgun shooting. Immediately I wished I'd bought a 1911. Immediately. And some day I'll get one, because I admire the mechanical refinement it has, and the superb trigger.
My Army Drill Sergeant told me.....your .45 kills bad guys dead. Take care of it and it will take of you.
It was good advice..I am a Desert Shield-Desert Storm veteran.
Entering my 8th decade, as a veteran, and a career LEO the 1911 has served me well, everything from self defense to hunting big game. After the last "tupperware" Glock has faded into obscurity there will be 1911s.
The options with the platform are "legion", in the original .45ACP form by merely changing a few inexpensive parts you can with various bullet weights duplicate 9mm performance or reach performance levels duplicating the .44 magnum. A poster here "Stuckcase" has produced .45ACP loads that are in the range of the .44 Mag.
hrfunk that is a very nice belt rig you have, some information that would be good to have. As always great videos.
Hi John! Here’s a review I produced on that rig a while back: ruclips.net/video/2UXpIBmP7KM/видео.html
I'm 82, 1911 is my EDC. Only own three, but have never varied from John Moses Browning's genius; not an extended safety, beaver tail, not even an 8 round mag. and yes, only 230 gr ball. I just don't believe I'm smarter than him.
I’m 67 years oldI have used a 1911 3 times to defend my life and others, I carry a S&W shield now for concelabilitey only. 1911 on my night stand . Can handle blind folded and under stress.
Glad I wasn't drinking coffee or a Coke when I saw your "solution" to NDS. Actually, I can explain NDS in a single word: jealousy.
I will always love my 1911s. There is just something about them that still grabs my interest. I also love the 45 ACP.
Always good to see intelligent videos with a bit of humor. A cocked and locked pistol with an external hammer is scary for some people. I admit that I no longer carry a 1911, but suspect many who preach/rant against it have never carried one and are regurgitating what they have heard others say. Interesting and well done.
Thanks Luther!
I don’t care who you are, that is FUNNY RIGHT THERE! love the tongue in cheek!!! I will keep liking on one of JM Brownings crowning designs.
Hilarious. I suffer from DHN Syndrome. I Don't Have a 1911. I'm obsessed with getting a WW2 Colt, to hang on the wall next to the M1 I still haven't bought. Guy at the gun store almost sold me a Tisas the other day, but made the mistake of telling me the Civilian Marksmanship Program has another 1911 sale going, and I still have time to apply. My oldest brother scored expert with his M14 in training, then had to pass quals with the M16 before they shipped him to Vietnam. He learned when he got there that guys in Army Intelligence weren't issued rifles. But he spent 13 months in the brush, and his 1911 served him well.
Saw one at a gun show today. $4000.
Well put Sir, and I agree completely...
Mr. Funk you are spot on. I'm 61 years old and I love my 1911. I see a lot of young people that believe that the 1911 doesn't carry enough rounds and doesn't have enough wallop when if hits something and in their minds it sure doesn't look fancy. I'll keep my old trusty 1911.
Me too. Thanks for watching David!
Astute analysis couched in a VERY humorous way! I tip my cap to you as you segue from firearms channel to comedy channel. 😂
Hello HR. Enjoyed the midweek bonus video. You better be careful, You Tube may hit you for practicing psychiatry without a license.😀
As a big 1911 fan I would be interested in a video of your 1911 collection with a countdown to your favorite.
I made a video like that a while back, but my collection has changed since then. I might have to update it!
Howard, when I was in the Seabees the 1911 was there, went to the beretta 92 in tbe 80’s. The haters have most likely never owned a 1911. If they owned one they wouldn’t hate it, they would be looking to purchase their second 1911.
My biggest reason to stick with 1911s is that its one of the only platforms that still exists with lots of options available to them while all other semi autos dont nearly have as many options available. For example I cant find a Browning Hi Power thats all stainless or a Glock in 38 super however I can find 1911s like that.
Learned my 1911 while in army officers training. Would carry one every so often when pulling base reserve security. Shot about 32 IPSC local matches with a POS AMT Hardballer 1911. Had owned some 10 1911s in my 62 years on earth. Now I still have 5 1911s. Had in on my hip during the Rodney King Riots. Had one nearby during all those peaceful protesting by BLM. Yes, I'm a Fudd. Will have one in my hand when the world ends.
Salute for your service, hrfunk!
Who cares? Those who do not understand the the 1911 feel compelled to justify their alternative choice. Every handgun has its pros and cons, ultimately it is up to the individual to balance these factors. I agree ultimately they are trying to justify their decision. Sadly, the over arching policy of my church's protective ministry has stated the 1911 is not an authorize firearm. Consequently, I resigned from this from this position after qualifying and having one of the best scores of the group.. Sadly watching many my fellow members try to qualify with the wonder stick pistols, I can only feel a sense of regret. If I am asked to put my life and everything I have worked for my entire life on the line, then allow me to select the tool of my choice. Let there be no doubt that the 1911/2011 has many excellent characteristics that can not be fund in any other platform.
guns are guns...we like to talk about the best truck or tractor or gun....it don't matter just learn to use what you have.
in a lot of the world you don't have a choice. We in the good ol' USA do have a choice. God Bless the USA despite all the evil we spreed.
This shit right here is why many people turn off their ears when it comes to 1911 advocates.
“Wonder stick pistols”.
I would also be interested in hearing what characteristics they hold that no other platform does. That aren’t subjective or based on opinion.
Big Beretta and M&P fan,kinda new to the 1911 platform.Past couple of months I’ve bought a Springfield armory garrison stainless/.45 and now a Springfield Ronin 5”/.45.Love ‘em the more I shoot ‘em!!!
You have taken your first steps into a larger universe.
Love it. The best carry gun is the one you can hit the bullseye with. For me it's just happened to be a 1911 platform for all these years.
I have a 1911A1 Mil-Spec model (from Springfield Armory). I would like an original Army one, but who can afford it. Really enjoy shooting it. I carried one on active duty.... Excellent pistol, no matter how old it is.....
Wanna get a similar reaction? Tell someone you still own and carry a .40 S&W. People react as though you should run screaming with your hair on fire to the nearest gun buy back and dump it for the betterment of humanity.
Well said! I recently had a malfunction of one of my range magazines while conducting my annual LEOSA qualification with my 1911 Colt. The individual next to me said "That never would have happened if you had a Glock"! Now mind you I've had that 1911 over 40 years and paid $400 dollars for it and fired literally tens of thousands of rounds of ammunition threw it. In all that time that was the first and only failure I've had with that pistol and it wasn't even the pistol that failed but a cheap range magazine I use for training as I don't like dropping my expensive mags on the ground. I wonder how many Glock owners can say that, not to mention the fact that same pistol is now worth about four times what I paid for it. Nuff said, America's gun in America's caliber!...
For what it’s worth, I’ve seen more than one Glock malfunction with a much lower round count.
I’ve seen Glock mags come apart on the range during LEO Qualification. Witnessed the floor plate come off one in a courtroom and dump rounds. Contrary to advertising a Glock isn’t perfection!
@@CDinNC interestingly, I’ve seen some similar shortcomings.
@@hrfunk Glock is definitely far from the best polymer striker. Way back I think it was a P99 by Walther with S&W for one was superior. I think you're right, those NDS boys don't know much except what they see on the internet. Btw, I found an old video of yours on the S&W99. Do you still have that model? I had the P99AS compact at one time and they are great. Just didn't fit my hand like I liked, but it is a fine polymer handgun.
I do still have the SW99 and I hope to add one of the final editions of the P99 to my collection this year.
Thank you, HR, for bringing in awareness for this terrible affliction. Perhaps we can eventually find a cure.
Like you I am a retired LEO. For the past decade I have been selling firearms part time.
I have carried the 1911 for forty years. It is my handgun of choice for personal protection. There are arguably better options in regard to handguns, just not a better choice for me, and that’s not arguable!
God bless
I have experimented with many different personal protection devices for a number of years. My favorites are a Walther PPQ polymer 9mm, a Kimber Custom TLE 1911 .45 ACP, a Colt Python .357 Magnum / .38 Special revolver, and a Ruger Single Six .22 WMR revolver with a 6.5 inch barrel. I have concealed and open carried all of them at different times. I am currently carrying the Colt Python, for reasons that require a long explanation that I will not go into here. Everyone’s circumstances are different, and I have no problem with other people’s choices, but I wonder why some feel compelled to tell me what they think are wrong with mine.
I was wondering the same thing. Hence, this video.
@@hrfunk Thank you for making the video, and thank you for identifying the 1911 Derangement Syndrome.
@@allenw969 you’re welcome Allen!
Good trigger, slim design for smaller hands, big bullet, history, ancestry linkage to WWII veterans, easy access to replacement parts, and the attacker may respect on sight a defender's carry. You defend best if you practise with the firearm and are familiar with the one you use. It helps John Moses Browning was a genius.
I agree!
Thank you HRFunk! I like my plastic guns just fine and don't dis any daily carriers, but the 1911 is the one on my hip every day.
Thanks HR for the
analysis. I have noticed that also and I believe you are right. 1911 owners do not seek affirmation. We’re just happy and satisfied.
Thanks for the educational and information you provide. I know it’s a lot of work to provide your channel.
You’re welcome. Thanks for one!
As defensive firearms, the 1911's, revolvers, HiPower's, etc have been dealing out dirt naps for many, may years. It's just like cartridge debates, they'll never end. Most of the pistol, revolver, and cartridge screamers understand that the ONLY firearm that is acceptable is/are the ones that they have chosen, own, or carry...it gets nauseating...
I agree. That's at least partly why I recorded this video.
Great video HR. I agree with your assessment. To me, a baby boomer, all my life, I read, and heard, all the famous history of 1911 pistol. My father, had a 1911, issued to him in the Army, during the Korean War. The 1911 was still being issued, when I started my military service, in 1978. The derangement seems to be generational, in a sense. Millennial, and Gen Z, folks grew up in what I call "The Polymer" generation, when Glocks came on the scene, and polymer pistols are now everywhere. Some of those folks, I think that the 1911 is too old school, and the polymer pistol is king now. They ignore that still about two dozen or more gun manufacturers, still produce new 1911s, every day. To this day, still, quite a number of armies, around the world, still issue it. Sure, it is an old design, but in trained professional hands, and fitted and tuned properly, it is still a pistol for today. For carry, I would only want people who are dedicated to learning the operation of the 1911, to a professional level. I have seen some young people too, who shoot a 1911 for the first time, and see a super wide grin, and they want one. I have a Dan Wesson 1911 Vigil CCO. 45acp, that is all ever wanted in a main 1911 carry gun.
Great gun I have a Dan Wesson valkirie cco 45 that gun has never jammed with factory ammo well over 1000 rounds of it . And with reloads a hand full of times with well over 1000 rounds of that , feeds hollow points well also ,mine doesn’t like semi wad cutters , just giving you some real world info from a Dan Wesson fan 👍
It's definitely generational because I absolutely hate 1911's 🤮..polymer pistols just make more sense lighter , hold more rounds win-win..(8+1) is not enough period
@@blackticalmayhem8461 Have you ever shot a 1911?
@@LoneStarLawman 🤣 I've shot several even briefly owned a SPRINGFIELD LOADED A1 STAINLESS MODEL 1911.. THEN I CAME TO MY SENSES 👌😎
@BlackticalMayhem84 Sorry, you don't like the 1911, as millions in the USA, and in many people in foreign countries do like it. I am glad you have a handgun, that works for you and and your confident with it. Just remember, everyone has their own preferences and what makes "sense" to you, is certainly not universal, when talking about the 1911 pistol.
Currently 67 years old. I have been teaching shooting since 1970. I was 14 years old. I am either uniquely familiar with just about any firearm I've ever seen or I gain familiarity with them very quickly. My primary carry done for a long time was a 4-inch 357, even after I was teaching police officers to transition to semi-autos for at least 15 years probably 17. When I finally transitioned into a semi-auto I use this easy variant in 40 Smith. I currently have four primary carry guns, and they are that 40 Smith Witness, one of two 1911's, a standard Government model which is the most accurate Government Model ever fired in competition, and that is a documented reality. The gun has fired at the camp Perry match a597 on three different occasions. My gunsmith built it just for that match and sold it to me several years ago after his son passed away and he no longer had a use for this gun that he had carried for 22 years. It is uniquely tight but only where it is necessary to make it more accurate. The other 1911 is a Ruger Commander. I also have a P35 Browning hi-power which is an Argentine military, the most accurate 9 mm I've ever witnessed. It shoots ball ammo into a single hole. And of course my last one is a 357 4 in Ruger Security 6. I have carried a couple of others. I've carried a 4 5/8 inch 44 and or a 4 and 5/8 in 41 as my primary carry gun a few times. They are more than adequate for the job. Nobody builds a firearm that functions better than a properly functioning 1911. It just doesn't exist in reality on this planet in this dimension that we all are a part of. And I damn well refuse to carry a glock because I cannot find one that the trigger doesn't feel like a daisy pistol. And I despise Firearms without safeties. Safeties have saved more police officers lives than I can shake a stick at and yet now most of them carry these Glocks that have no safety on them, they don't even have a proper slide release on him. That is a slide stop on that gun it is not designed to be a slide release. I'm surprised they even took the time to put the mag release on the side of the pistol instead of on the hill like most of the European idiots do. At least they did learn one thing. I still don't understand the lever on the trigger thing it is not a safety and all it is, is just there. Gives people some sort of a false sense of security somehow, I just think it's in the way.
I'm 27 and an active duty Marine on my 7th year of service. While off duty I used to carry a 1911. Now I carry a Hi Power clone (SA 35). And most definitely, I remember getting a lot of flak from my friends about carrying a 1911. Which was dumb because mine never gave me any problems. Great video, and hopefully, some other folks get over NDS. The M14 also gets a LOT of hate for no reason. I own an LRB Arms match made M14 and everybody knocks it until they shoot it. Semper Fi, Sir and thank you for your great videos!
Semper Fi Marine! You are well armed.
I think that the writings of Jeff Cooper and some of the USPSA/IPSC Match Rules have had a lot to do with some shooters developing 1911 Derangement Syndrome.
Some poorly made copies of the 1911 may also have contributed to it as well. Currently, I have two 1911's in my Collection of useful Artifacts.
I like them and could employ them as Defensive Handguns, should I choose to do so. Have recently thought about adding a Commander style 1911 for carry.
Excellent Video and Discussion and your remedy was a good one! In the end, it does not matter what you are armed with, it's what you can do with
what you are armed with, that counts!
Agreed!
Well I carried one in RVN as a medic , and after all these years of shooting other firearms . I will always have a 1911 . Nothing , maybe sans a High Power has fit in the hand and came up to point of aim as quickly . Plus I can tell you that a 45 will do the job . No NDS here for this vet ! Great video ! Hope those folks find the cure :D
I’m doing my best to help! Thanks for watching Buford.
@@hrfunk I fear you have a long struggle ahead. Stay strong Marine , Get some !!
@@peterangles736 Each his own , but not for me .
Albeit presented in a humorous light, that was the most insightful analysis I have heard. It applies to so many things. The same constraints can be applied to beer, religion, and of course; the timeless Ford vs Chevy debate.
Nice job.
Thanks Cliff!
I grew up during the 80’s and during that decade the 1911 was still king (still is imo). It’s been my favorite handgun since I played army as a kid and it still is. As much as I like striker fired handguns there hasn’t been one of them that has as good of a trigger as the king.
I have seen this quite a lot of this when anyone does not fall in line with the Glock and AR15 religion. Choosing a revolver or even a TT-33 will draw vehement charges of heresy. Personally I prefer revolvers or DA/SA pistols but I would certainly chose a 1911 or similar over a Glock or its imitators any day of the week. But in the long run whatever fits you and that you are skilled with is the tool for the job.
I agree! Thanks for watching.
No one is going to convince me to abandon my 1911
HR, one of my doctorates is in counseling, and while you explanation of NDS may not be stated in exact scientific terms, you are right in your assessment of the problem and of the appropriate treatment. Well done.
Thank you, doctor!
Hi Glenn, I have a couple of firearm training questions I would like to run by someone with a knowledge of psychology. If you’re interested, would you mind sending me an email. Thank you.
I grew up shooting. I've been shooting for over 35 years. When I started shooting pistols I began with a ruger mk 1, I chose to carry a Beretta m9 for years and can shoot one very well. I was adamant that the 1911 was not for me, it was old and only had a few rounds. Then I shot a good 1911. Now I carry a 1911 every single day. A well made 1911 makes a good shooter a better shooter.
The two scumbags that tried to rob me at night next to an AutoZone must have had NDS because they fell over each other trying to get away.
Ha, ha! I'm glad it worked out that way!
Thank you for clarifying what NDS stands for. I thought it stood for No good Doing Senator, or Not Doing Senator
You are amazing, I don't know how you do it with a straight face
1911 derangement syndrome is something I’ve never thought of before. It’s an interesting phenomenon. Thanks for shedding light on the subject.
1911s do seem to bring negativity out of the woodwork (or plasticwork, given the crowd complaints come from). I think your prescription will probably work.
When i Took my CCW course in Florida the former Police Chief of Sowells Point taught it. During the course he was adamant that if you used -any- gun other than a glock you were being irresponsible and flippant with your personal safety as no other pistol was reliable. You would think someone who was a professional and should have known better than to have such an incredibly ignorant outlook (not hating on Glocks here but that point of view is not based in reality, especially not these days) but he didn't. I would think NDS comes from a similar place where anything other than the platonic ideal of a personal defense pistol is categorically unacceptable to them.
Agreed. It's actually kind of sad when you think about it.
Priceless
Like you said, people seeking the best and when they get something they perceive is the best, whether it is or isn't, they defend it and that can lead some to develop and hold prejudices. Many people get caught up in seeking the best when realistically there are often several things that are "the best" and the deciding factor in choosing amongst them will be personal preferences. There's a difference between having "preferences" and having "preferences that are backed by prejudices".
As someone who loves Classic Vehicles, I see these behaviors directed toward Vehicle Brands frequently. My personal preferences are Classic Ford Trucks, I have a 1980 F150 Flare Side 4x4 that had a 1969 Big Block 460 swapped in, I named her Sally and I surely love her and see her as a huge Blessing to my life. Her generation was very efficient as Trucks and held the title of best selling Trucks in America. This does not mean that Trucks from other companies are not good, but some perceive it as such and feel it goes against their personal preferences and talk trash where ever and how ever they can. Some don't like Sally for no other reason than the "Ford" markings on her, with disregard to how great she surely is as a Truck. Some people are the same way with firearms.
These prejudices are sometimes started by people bragging though, obviously. And most people will feel the need to defend their preferences against people trash talking against them just because theirs may or may not have did better in some way. It's sometimes difficult to do, but I see it logical to take the psychological path and recognize that they are trash talking to make themselves feel better, meaning they have insecurities. And to often try to get a negative reaction out of someone at the same time. So why give them what they want... though sometimes you got to shut them up somehow lol
I have, like everyone else, preferences. But I won't hold prejudices, I think it is foolishness and I would disappoint God if I were to hold foolish prejudices. I have handled firearms but I sadly don't personally own any firearms yet, only because I can't afford any at the moment. But when I'm finally able, my first firearm will be a 1911. I have always wanted one since I found out about them as a youngun. The long and successful service life and history the 1911 has with our Military is absolutely noteworthy and respectable. Our Military used it well, and many favored it and trusted it with their life. Some still do to this day. They gave the 1911 the nickname "The Man Stopper" for good reasons. I also personally see it as the most beautiful Pistol, and its Steel construction is also very appealing to me. Even if I didn't like it, I would never trash talk on it simply for the amount of respect I see it has earned in the hands of our Military. And as I hold great respect and admiration for them, I will also do the same for their equipment that didn't fail them.
There is a saying, "Old Is Gold". I live by this. I personally desire more Classic Firearms than I do newer ones, just as I do Vehicles.
By the way, that ending was subtly brutal, hilarious, and quite fitting lol Thank you for your service
The honor was all mine. Thanks for watching!
Can a felon posses a Black Powder fire arm?
Please check with an attorney in your area. This seems to vary from state to state.
In New Jersey, anything that uses a projectile is considered a firearm: bow and arrow, sling shot, and BB guns all require a firearms ID card. I live in PA, and felons cannot possess any type of firearm, nor a bow and arrow.
Thing is, the 1911 isn't outdated. Most pistols still use a tilting barrel, short recoil mechanism and most pistols have its basic ergonomics. The only thing the original design may lack is features, but features are all easily backported to the base gun these days.
Which really shows you how little handgun technology has actually evolved more than anything else.
The Luger P-08 is a striker fire. The P-38 is a DA/SA. Now the hot thing is a striker fire with a tilting barrel.
The Luger and 1911 got married and had a Glock.
@@HDBee Funnily enough, the P38 itself was modernized into the Beretta M9.
And they are made of polymer, have double stack mags, usually no safety. In some cases modular and probably less likely to need maintenance.
@@FoulPet There are 1911s with double stack magazines (I'm carrying one now), polymer frames (2011s have polymer grips and Bul Armory even made a full polymer frame), early 1911 prototypes also didn't have a thumb safety, and are plenty modular with the amount of aftermarket support. So the only thing is they need more maintenance, but on the flip side, seem to do better in adverse conditions than Glocks like in Garand Thumb's test.
Ultimately, that's my point: The only major advancements since the 1911 have been features, not core operating mechanisms or ergonomics. And all those features can easily be backported into the original design. And if you're gonna say "Well, a 2011 isn't a 1911", that's like saying a Mk. 18 isn't an AR-15 because it isn't like a Colt SP-1.
@gameragodzilla well typically not a "true" 1911 and I had a double stack Para that was like carrying a brick. 2011s are 2011s not 1911 its a redesign 1911. But they've developed more than Glock has. A G19 isn't a G20 but they have similarities.
As Marine recruit in late 70’s we were only allowed to ‘fam fire’ the 1911 .45 with just three rounds, which was already loaded when handed to recruit, this was enough to hook me for life.🇺🇸
I’m surprised you only got to fire three rounds. In 1985, we fired at least a box of ammunition through those pistols during Boot Camp.
@@hrfunk raised by Korea war Veteran Infantryman I grew up with life size Johnny Eagle 1911 .45 replica and had fired my share of plastic rounds by the time I hit the yellow footprints. I did however shoot buku rounds with S&W .38 in underground pistol range in Camp Butler, Okinawa 3rd FSSG. All this shooting did allow me to proficiency with t/o weapon S&W .357 which I believe we had plus ‘p’ ammo for MSG Duty. Served US Embassy Honduras & Argentina 🇺🇸
It always surprises me that so many Marines on MSG duty were issued small arms other than the standard issue M16/M1911A1.
@@hrfunk we had UZI’s, 870-P’s, 30 .06 rifles, and eventually Ruger .357’s. I didn’t shoot 1911 .45 officially until joined US ARMY National Guard in Iowa, however I did have highest score for STARC.🤠 My off duty weapon in Miami was definitely 1911 .45 Colt Commander.
And that sweet sound when you rack the slide
I hear these haters to. I have 20 handguns and 6 of them are 1911s. I have the greatest latest polymer pistols and I prefer and enjoy shooting my 1911's. The most. I carry a commander size 1911 and a Glock 19 gen4. I have noticed the people that's rag on 1911s are jealous and ignant to what firearms really are. And their uses.The are followers not leaders. They're bandwagon buttheads. So long live the 1911👍🤗👍🇺🇸