Well..... I think people think Sam is better in season 3 than the other seasons because her character was more focused on her PTSD than......... Her talking or being obnoxious. Which I and most people agree of Plus all the world to Mary mouser Imagine playing a character you disagree with. (She said that in one of the videos of the cast doing the cobra kai quiz(I'm that much of a fan to know this)).
Another great video WatchParty. About time the creators started acknowledging your work, which adds layers and dimensions to the show that mostly would just never be seen. I even agree with one comment that once said your videos can be more fun than the show itself! Hope the creators see this and raise their game! 👏👍
My favorite videos are the videos when you rip on Sam! To be honest only thing that could save her character in my eyes is owning up to her mistakes and admitting she's been a self centered bitch for a long ass time and literally changing her ways. One of the first people she'd need to apologize to is Aisha. Then Tory, then Miguel, then Robby. Either that or she becomes a full blown villain and everyone unites to take her down.
it is pretty refreshing seeing a woman actually be strong, have issues and overcome them, and not elevate herself by bashing men. kind of like the writers are good
Right. Except in season 3 it does seem (at least to me) that they made a lot of effort to do away with the gray area regarding Sam and have her come across as the good girl “you go girl” strong woman with legit struggles vs the bad girl “that bitch is crazy” who does extreme things for no good reason psycho Tory. Or perhaps it’s just because her dealing with fear and ptsd just makes her very sympathetic at least on first watch.
@@vikavoltisepic3507 everyone knows dat sam is nowhere near an angel. She started dis whole mess in da show and is tryna play innocent. I wanna see her get whooped in s4 badly
@@monibelit2325 I’m not saying she’s perfect, I’m saying she’s pretty much most of the other characters. A flawed hero. Also you could say that about Miguel too, if he didn’t hit Sam. This wouldn’t have happened. If Demitri joined cobra Kai, this wouldn’t have happened. Also “I wanna see her get whooped in s4 badly” why? That’s kinda sadistic....
@ethereal flower Yeah, Tory LOVED Miguel so much that she NEVER went to the hospital to see him. Never called, or texted. Nothing, never. Tory moved in on Miguel because they started off on the wrong foot, He was the top dog at her new school, and inserted herself when she saw the opportunity to rub salt in a wound. I don't care for Sam, but Tory is a straight up bitch. Sam at least has conscience, instilled by her parents that built their fortune, but her conscience is constantly clashing with her "princess" status and plastic clique. Tory was willing to commit murder because Sam and Miguel kissed, while knowing that Miguel still had feelings for Sam, because she was so anxious to get her shots in she couldn't let Miguel get over his first girlfriend.
Dude, PTSD is way harder to overcome than mano. And it is VERY admirable because not everyone gets over it. Also, Language is very important and is missing from your analysis. "Deciding to go crazy" is describing someone's action. Saying "That girl is crazy" is describing a person's state of mind. TOTALLY DIFFERENT!
Kreese, Silver, and Chosen all realistic depictions of PTSD, and they’re still all badass, fleshed out, and more well written characters than Samantha Larusso is.
Samantha LaRusso is the hidden antagonist of Cobra Kai, she did what Kreese could only wish for. With just one kiss, she was able to mentally and physically break both top students from both dojos.
Sam got deep, phycological dives into her mental state in comfy mansion, meanwhile Tory gets little to no extra plots as she struggles with her relationships and feeding her family. Sam gets more screen time, yet we like Tory more.
Sam comes from a privileged life, having a good home with a caring family that taught many good qualities. Where she is flawed is that she knows things abstractly, as in understanding the idea of things, but she wasn’t truly understanding those concepts like Miguel, Tory, Johnny, Robby and Daniel because they didn’t or don’t come from privileged homes. Those 5 had to fight to gain that understanding to gain their success and open their mind, Sam didn’t have to do that until the big school brawl and eventually, very slowly, is getting those lessons. Watch Party does it right, she does things without noticing what she’s doing, something many teenagers do, sometimes having double standards and self-centered; common traits found in many teenagers. She’s slowly truly understanding how life is and what can be right and wrong depending on perception.
Totally true yet if you watch the show from season 1 to season 3, Sam has been antagonist towards Cobra Kai first it was Miguel should switch dojo then people can argue all they want she set her sights on Tory since country club and she found out she was dating Miguel and in Cobra Kai. She wanted to push Tory she was stalking her on the phone watching her train she was getting ready to fight her period yet no one brings that up. Tory decided like most people I have had enough of this antagonist its on and really who can blame her if you watch this show Sam has attacked her, attacked Cobra Kai at the gym and laser tag room then is getting everyone together to fight them again Tory hears about this meeting and attacks them on her terms. The point Tory made about this ends tonight I think was her telling Sam no more dodging me at the gym and laser tag room I am going to pick the spot we fight and you will face me! That was what I took from it all. Everyone is the bad guy in there own story in Sam she tells Miguel no excuse for her to be a bully yet in Tory mind Sam is antagonist accusing me of stealing then bad mouthing me to kissing my man she is tasking me to react. To be fair the school fight Tory called out Sam and took it to her until Robbie actually stopped it, the fight only kept going because Miguel defend his girl ( Tory) because he seen Robbie had his hands on her. That's a no no one thing you never do is put your hands on a women. That actually started the whole school all out brawl If your being honest that's what happen. So sadly Miguel told Sam he was with Tory and stopped the kiss then defended Tory in the school fight clearly if he would of told Tory I am with you and I told Sam exactly that this whole mess would of never happen. Tory and Miguel would still be together and Robbie and Sam those pairings are the best for all of them hands down.
@@dalelapointe9289 Robby tried to stop the fight between Sam and Tory, but Miguel saw the hand on Tory and thought he was attacking her. This whole situation happened between them because of huge misunderstandings that costed a lot. I’m not excusing Sam for what she did, all I’m saying is that errors were made because emotions were high. Sam is a spoiled brat that knows more than she understand until the brawl, Tory is stressed from the life she has lived with her sick mother and looking out for her little brother so she will bite anyone who destroys her little peace of mind, Robby has yet to truly learn what it meant to be forgiving and let things go and Miguel was in the middle of everything so he didn’t get the full picture but he doesn’t hold grudges, unlike the other previous three mentioned
In s3 i actually took more a liking to Sam becasue i personally no joke had a bad anxiety attack about 4 yrs ago with me juggling with life problems, school work, trial and error with many meds that made everything worse, I’m able to relate to her more than many becasue i actually went though
I actually do think that Sam got better as a character in Season 3 but I feel that it was more here becoming more of a leader and merging Eagle Fang and Miyagi do
Sam defending herself and then looked at as crazy because she’s a woman is very unfair and a double standard. Tory really did go crazy. She didn’t want to beat Sam up. She was intending to kill her. She then invaded her house to kill Sam again. Now raising your arm in public might look odd without context, but trying to end someone’s life because they kissed your boyfriend is crazy. Being awkward in public and even cheating, while not the best, are NOT crimes that can send you to jail. Trying to kill someone is. Your comparison and analysis is way WAY off.
Did we not forget that she initiated to intentionally attack cobra Kai on soccer field and got mad when she got detention Than to ambush cobra Kai in the mall only for Tory to come in. Because of her, she got one of her friends arm broken. Than cried to mommy and not telling the truth on who started the fight. She made herself the victim when she realize she bit more than she can chew on initiating the ambush on cobra Kai
Have people forgotten what the Cobra Kai students did before that?? Im pretty sure they attacked Nate for no reason. That was BEFORE the soccer game, AND, im pretty sure if you count, the Cobra Kai students have started WAY more fights before, once again, for NO reason
@@Sebsisme , Daniel Laracist, Anathony Lapusso, and Daniel’s cousin are all people that either own electronics and media made from monopolies, or they own a monopoly themselves like the Larusso car dealerships which has more than enough founds for Miguel to immediately recover from his coma; him immediately being able to walk again, and him returning better from that operation than he was in his prime in Season 1 and Season 2 self, but instead Samantha LaCringe and the Miyagi-Do Karate Dojo decided to make Miguel their poster child for the car wash charity that didn’t even had the funds put into that I mentioned because Johnny Lawrence was the person that healed Miguel’s injuries like how he cured his asthma and made Miguel have perfect teeth without braces, so clearly no the Cobra Kai students did nothing wrong in Season 3 of Cobra Kai.
Sam is not a hypocrite nor invalidates feminism for one reason. The context for the motivations of Sam’s aggression and Tory’s were completely different. What I believe Sam meant was that Tory had no right going crazy because Tory was not under threat. Therefore, considering Tory was the perpetrator of violence at the school over a non-life threatening reason then that’s what I mean when I say the context was right for Sam to assume Tory chose to go crazy. Sam’s context for showing aggression when noticing people talking about her might have been due to the impact of gender stereotypes along with the violence she had received. My point is that if Sam’s reaction to this was a self-defence reaction to the socially damaging stereotypes out there and for acting in self defence then Sam could have thought she had legitimate grounds to claim she was not the crazy one. Like I said, the context for the motivation behind the violence of Sam and Tory, including their reasons were completely different, which could mean that Sam may well have used the word crazy appropriately when taking into account the difference in aggressive motivation contexts. What we all have to remember is that there’s many people out there who do judge women and girls as ‘crazy’ just for defending themselves. Also, determining whether some comment is appropriate to make by a given person highly depends on the context of the situation
Calling Tory crazy was different than everyone thinking Sam was crazy. Tory started the school fight. She didn't stop to think that maybe she dodged a bullet. Sam may have been "crazy" to start the soccer and lazer tag fights but those fights didn't happen before she visited Miguel in the hospital. And how is this a video of her positive traits?
Not really that different, both are seen as crazy for fist fighting. As for the positive trait, he explained that the writers used her character to make a joke about feminists. Tbh I don't understand the video and neither do you, this guy is too smart.
Unfortunately for Sam, this quality is not exclusive to her. Moon kinda also destroyed feminism by saying Sam going down on Kyler in a movie theater was "icky", then claim that she's a sexually positive feminist at the car wash.
The way to look at that is that Moon in season 1 was putting up the persona of an "alpha bitch". You could tell she was hesitant to join in Yasmine's bullying of Aisha.
They are kids tho. Their views can change 100 times before they graduate high school. I think they only mentioned that Moon was a feminist to make fun of feminism a little.
@Hatersoftloup2arepathetic Yoloswag I don't understand their opinions of Sam at all. The entertainment industry pumps out terrible female protagonists a lot but Sam isn't one of them. She is a flawed but realistic human who has actual weaknesses and parts of herself to work on. That's about as well written as characters get. If she were a Mary Sue I would hate her and she would diminish the whole show. As it is she adds more to the show and especially in season 3.
@@cobrakats7440 She's also kind of alot like Daniel was in his youth and still tends to be. Daniel could be rather confrontational, he has the tendency to be judgemental and has a hard time letting go of a first negative impression of people and we should not forget that Daniel was rather flicky when it came to his love live, being quite a mess in that regard. I think what makes people more critical of her is probably, that both inherited aspects of Daniels original role from Karate Kid, with Miguel inheriting Daniels underdog role in the story while Sam shares many of Daniels original and current character traits.
I love your idea for Tory! That would’ve been incredible. It would’ve showed Kreese respects Tory in his own twisted way, but still had those brutal standards he had for Johnny and all the others, “did they hurt your feelings?” It feels like, this was the original plan the writers had before unexpectedly changing it for some reason.
How can Samantha’s actions destroy feminism when she has never declared herself to be a feminist in the first place? Double standards exist whether for men or women. Just because Samantha cited the double standard about girls fighting and then contradicted herself later on does not mean that double standards do not exist. She is a flawed character just like the other characters in the show, and just like real people. Also, feminism is more than just double standards, and if you ever bother to know more about feminism and the movement beyond what you see in social media, you’ll understand this better.
Could you guys imagine if watch party went on a date with Mary Mouser (acting as Sam LaRusso from Cobra Kai) 🤣🤣🤣 THAT would be EPIC!!!!! I would pay to watch their date! LOL
Damn, Great video. I personally believe in the second option more than the first cuz I feel like Cobra Kai writers would've made it a bit more obvious if that was the message they were trying to convey. If you had to catch on to the double standard message, the audience member would've had to pay close attention to and analyze two different lines and then compare them to real-world issues. It just makes more sense that Sam is a bit self-centered and trying to justify herself.
6:15 TBF Tory did start a huge high school brawl that she announced over the PA system, just because a girl had a two second kiss with her boyfriend. I think “go crazy” is a fair enough description of the way she acted.
Same is a really good character and person people just hate her for what she did while she was drunk which was kiss Miguel most teenagers in her place probably would've made the same mistake
Hayden: You're being too harsh on Sam. Me: Can't you just write her to be a better, less manipulating and more self-less person? Hayden: We gave her ptsd. Take it or leave it.
Sam got advice from her dad to get the courage to stand up to Tory in the house fight. She organized the car wash that paid for Miguel's surgery. She made it clear she only wants Miguel in s3. She avoided serving alcohol when uniting both Eagle Fang and Miyagi Do. She stood up for Demetri when Hawk wrecked his science project. She defended Demetri from Hawk at the mall. And she saved the all valley tournament with Miguel's help. And she trained her friends to defend themselves against CK when her dad was in Okinawa. And she's undoubtedly loyal to her dad and Miyagi Do. And she's the only Miyagi Do student that's never been in CK and has never considered being in CK. She's not perfect, but she has matured a lot since s1 and learns from her mistakes and tries to do what is right. How does that destroy feminism?
"And she's the only Miyagi Do student that's never been in CK and has never considered being in CK." Although others like Aisha have thought she'd fit in there.
@@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102 well that's bc Sam was already a pretty good fighter even before she got serious about karate again, plus Aisha didn't want there to be any tension between them being in feuding dojos, but Sam can't be in CK bc she's Daniel's daughter.
@Anti Sam Larusso How does it lack context if they are all facts about Sam? And especially when your name makes it clear that you hate Sam with all your guts? Pls, I'd like you to tell me how any of what I just said about Sam is false. I have watched the whole show multiple times and I pay attention to all the little details that some Sam haters choose to overlook bc of how much they hate Sam. So tell me, how is any of what I just said about Sam lacking context?
@Anti Sam Larusso Hawk may have been right about his little sleeping comment, but that didn't give him the right to just change the subject about him destroying Demetri's science project. She tried telling him to stop, but Hawk wouldn't listen. So what if Sam was training her friends to start fights with CK? The CK kids aren't just a normal group of kids who will leave them alone like when they beat up poor Nate, destroyed Demetri's science project, and bothered Chris at work, so Sam thought she was protecting her friends by starting fights with them until after the arcade fight, which is when she realized starting fights ain't the way either. I gave the credit to saving the tournament to Miguel too. The rest of what you wrote is just painting Sam as a villain without evidence to back up that Sam would ever have any of those intentions you ranted about. This is just you being mad that I am one of the very few fans that can see Sam isn't a villain, and I don't leave details out, unlike biased Sam haters like you.
@Anti Sam Larusso She wanted Miguel to see what his psycho girlfriend did to her, so he can see what kind of person Tory really is. Sam may not be entirely innocent, but Miguel cheating on Tory with Sam does not give Tory the right to use Sam as her punching bag. Miguel would've apologized to her for cheating had she not beat up Sam. Sam doesn't own an apology to Tory, it's Miguel who owed an apology to her. Sam wasn't interfering, she was trying to tell Hawk to leave Demetri alone. Sam may have been jealous seeing Tory with Miguel, but hearing about Miguel returning the medal of honor is what changed her feelings for Miguel. So what if Sam fake tripped to get Miguel's attention, she and Miguel both had feelings for each other. You only want to blame Sam for the kiss, but Miguel was perfectly sober and didn't have to kiss her back, but he did bc he likes her too. If CK didn't want miyagi do to have all the credit for Miguel's surgery, they should've just participated in the car wash or raised the money by themselves, instead of having to resort to assault and plagiarism for something they worked squat for. How dare you try to justify Hawk destroying Demetri's science project. Demetri was minding his own business, and Hawk just wrecks it. Hawk already punished Demetri for that stuff in s2 at the school fight. Why does he need to bully Demetri any further? What CK did to Chris may not have been a very big deal(that was Chris's fault), but it was a big deal to Chris, so Sam thought she was standing up to CK for Chris. Sam started the soccer fight bc she didn't like that Hawk got away with destroying Demetri's science project, so she wanted to get CK in detention, which ended up backfiring only on her and her friends ending up in detention and CK getting off scot free, so she knew she couldn't start fights at school anymore. Plus, the soccer fight was kind of funny bc they should be kicking a ball into a net but instead, they choose to kick each other's faces. 😂
She technically won, sure. But she had to go to the hospital for stitches and cracked ribs. And stay overnight for observation. Tory went to karate class later that day with Hawk and the others. Plus she rightly was feeling guilt for the school fight and all that led to it, Miguel getting severely injured and Robby on the run then juvie. Also Miguel’s fall happened shortly after Tory got kicked down the steps but wasn’t out of commission. I always imagined they were collecting themselves watching the end of a Miguel and Robby and if Miguel didn’t fall then Tory going after Sam again as security finally shows up.
Sam prevailed in the S2 fight, but she far and away got the worst end of it. Tory completely controlled that fight until she made the mistake of showboating at the very end instead of just finishing Sam.
Wearing the short sleeve shirt to Miguel’s hospital room was definitely calculated (you’re only paralyzed but look what happened to me) but when I compare her at the end of seasons 1 and 2, she seems to have grown. Unlike Tory, she apologized to Miguel for her role in him landing in the hospital. I want to see her and Johnny talk before I write her off as a Karen.
Nah she will end up as a karen when she is older. She cant even apologize without including herself in everything lmao she is a baby. No reason to turn her arm all da way around just to show your scar dat is nowhere near as bad as being paralyzed/ almost dead. She is born rich and tryna act like she been through shi she ain been through nothing serious
I have to disagree on the point that Sam was a hypocrite for calling Tory crazy. Let's face it, Tory did go crazy whether you think it can be justified or not. She's psycho. Sam was struggling and trying to defend herself for the whole fight, Sam wasn't the one being crazy. Sam was right to say Tory is crazy. Sam doesn't want to have a reputation for being crazy because she really isn't. As mentioned earlier, she was struggling and trying to defend herself. There's a difference between someone who is thought to be crazy and someone who actually is crazy.
2:16- 2:30 Basic fact about humanity, we tend to side with the pretty girl, assuming her to be the victim. In the case of the Tory vs. Sam feud, Tory and Sam are both pretty girls. No matter which side you take, you are siding against a pretty girl. On a side note, I am routing for Tory and Sam to burry the hatchet in season 5.
I'm glad you can dive deep in the psyche of Sam and Tory and show the complexities of the writing that many would never even think about. It's always good to get different perspectives because we all have our own internal bias that directs our thinking. I think Sam is the normal, spoiled teen that wants it all, and is now trying to navigate the waters of things not going her way. Tory is the girl that is used to things not going her way, sees what she wants, and goes for it no matter the cost. Tory seems the reactionary type, responding to threats as they come. Sam seem the schemer, planning her movements.
I think the Sam hatred is not only obsessive, it’s kinda sick. Sam is flawed but not a villain. I think many who hate this fictional character have deep insecurities themselves. I also feel the hatred towards the actress is sick too. This is why many are saying the CK fanbase is becoming toxic.
I don’t think anyone hates Sam. We dislike her for 3 seasons for sure. There are many reasons why. Yes She is flawed like all the other characters and not a villain, but. she’s not a hero either and especially in the 3rd season they seemed to be really pushing her that way especially with how they did Tory and the 2 of them juxtaposed. Not sure what people you are paying attention too but I think it’s less than 1% of the cobra Kai fan base that actually “hates” the actress. That’s a delusional them problem not being able to separate a character role being played and a real person. Mary Mouser plays the Sam role great I think. She is one if the better actors on the show. She is however the weakest athletically and with the fights. The actress even admits it. She does get better each fight each season though. Credit to the actress there to taking the part and training seriously.
@@td811 the actress is a type one diabetic, that’s why. Diabetes is a very serious thing. And she also has suffered from anxiety as well in real life. Truthfully, there’s a lot of hatred towards the character as many of these weirdos even admit it. The writers seem to be put off by a lot of it, as it’s become very personal towards the actress. There’s also a sick obsession with Peyton List (Tory) and creeps having lustfull feelings for her. The actress has mentioned how uncomfortable she is with all of that. Like I said, the fanbase is starting to become very toxic and the actors and even the writers are all put off by that.
@Anti Sam Larusso A total lie and a ridiculous statement. I’m so sorry but that’s further from the truth! I guess you justify a home invasion which is a felony, right??
@@AJ0880 True!!! Peyton and Mary are aware about it and its sad. Its because of all these Sam is horrible videos that are all over youtube and creeps obsession over Peyton List. Whether people want to admit it or not, thats what it comes down to. People dont like Sam cause there are fanboys who are WAY more obsessed over Peyton List
The problem is she has no struggle and it's hard to relate, Miguel was often getting bullied, Robby didn't have a father growing up, Tory's mom is sick so she has to take care of her Mom and brother and Demetri I'm not gonna say cause he's the most relatable, but Sam up until season 3 has not really had any issues and was portrayed as perfect, so because she's the daughter of Daniel who's rich and has no struggle to relate to she's seen as spoiled and entitled it was only when the writers saw that not everyone likes Sam they gave her the PTSD
@@ethanamaral6828 well yes but if you look at Demetri he gets bullied a lot and hawk is what some people wish to be, being popular, having the girl etc but most people are Demetri when they wish to be hawk, hawk is fantasy but Demetri is reality for some people that's why he's relatable
I thought Sam was the most believable character in season 3, and that is saying something because all of the characters were written well. I didnt really identify with her or fall into that damsel in distress thing. She was just really well done and became my favorite character in season 3 because of how well she was written. Tory IS crazy lol. Sam being treated differently than Miguel or Hawk is true. What Tory did was not winning a fight, what she did was nuts. She attacked the announcement girl, and attacked Sam and wouldn't stop even when Sam asked her to. Miguel also acted crazy. He should have helped Robby separate the girls. Miguel also acted out of character in that scene and it was one of the few mistakes made by the writers. It should have been Hawk attacking Robby, Robby gaining the upper hand and Miguel intervening to save Hawk, initiating the fight between Miguel and Robby. Tory is canonically crazy. She's supposed to be screwed up from her home life. Miguel isn't supposed to be screwed up. They just wrote him doing something that he wouldn't do. Feminism destroys itself. They weren't trying to destroy feminism. They were just writing a good story. Feminism will eat dirt over and over again, whenever anyone is honest or realistic about almost anything.
Great analysis of Miguel's action at the beginning of the fight. I totally agree that his actions were out of character, and the writers dropped the ball on that one. I can't say I'm feeling this particular video by WatchParty though about Sam's feminism. This is one of his weaker videos.
@@kickinbackbeingcool Sam was right for telling Tory not to steal and it takes a lot more guts and character to tell a potential friend that they are in the wrong than it does to go along with it even when you know it's wrong. It's not surprising that Sam thought Tory was the theif since Tory had already admitted to theft and since Sam hadn't gone along with that theft, it was reasonable to think that Tory had taken exception and decided to steal Amanda's wallet in retaliation. Sam went about that confrontation very poorly. She should have texted Aisha something like, "My mom is missing her wallet. Can you just check or verify to me that your new friend didn't steal it?" Aisha could have texted back that she had been with Tory the entire time and would not have allowed her to do something like that.
@@kickinbackbeingcool Yeah she fucked up hard there. Sam is far from perfect and I would hate her if she was lol. I didn't like her or really care about her character in season 1. Season 2 she was a little better because they gave her more time, but I really didn't like her until season 3. I don't consider it a damsel in distress thing at all because if it had been a male character in that exact situation, no one would be saying that. Also, no one saved her. She saved herself. That is a heroes journey. She started out season 3 very weak and incapable and gained her strength in the end. We will get nothing but Reys and Captain Marvels if people complain about "damsels in distress" whenever a female character has weaknesses. Weaknesses and struggle are what make a character worth watching. Watching them get stronger and more capable is an enjoyable experience. That can't happen if they are perfect from the start. Oops, I think I read part of my first comment and misread it as you saying she was a damsel in distress.
I didn’t think that Miguel acted out of Character he has been shown to be very protective of Tory like when Sam knocked her over at the Roller Rink like he was one of the only people in the rink who actually reacted and he was angry
Interesting take on transferring some of Sam's arc to Tory! It essentially could have been a reprise of Johnny's influence on Aisha back in S1. But in a manner that is COMPLETELY Kreese's style on approaching a similar situation. Not to mention how it would have been an interesting opportunity to prove that for better or worse, Cobra Kai has an effective answer to helping young people get through that type of ordeal (cyberbullying, harassment, etc). Not to mention that it would have even FURTHER solidified Tory's loyalty to Kreese.
No one hates Mary mouser. She plays the part great. I never understood anyone hating the actor or actress. I don’t think that actually happens hardly at all except for people who cannot make a distinction between a part being played and a real person. I can however see people getting down on actors if they are just terrible or not a good fit for a role. Even then that’s more of a casting problem.
Not me seeing this video and immediately remembering the scene where she didn’t know what feminism is and thinking this video was gonna explain how feminists can very much wear a bikini
My suggested name for Johnny's Dojo. " Bird's Of Prey Karate" With pic of both Eagle & a Hawk Now that's bad ass and the analogy of killing a snake still in tact!!l
@@Goaty9116 I guess that part of it isn't very surprising either when you consider his response to Miguel in S3. Miguel mentioned the Halloween Dance where Daniel placed a hose over Johnny. Instead of saying something like "yeah, that was wrong of me," he responded along the lines of "you would have done the same thing if you were in my position." Let alone his more recent d!ick moves, he still won't take responsibility for his actions from several decades ago.
I know Sam isn’t liked, but I don’t understand why people just hate her so much. She started like two fights, big deal. Tory started the whole school fight which had Miguel get injured, while being in the big house fight and using a weapon.
@Hatersoftloup2arepathetic Yoloswag, Tory started a 1v1 fight in which others voluntarily got involved in, Tory can’t possibly be held accountable for Robby deciding to kill Miguel, Sam on the other hand didn’t initiate a 1v1 fight at the arcade, she organized a whole gang fight so all injuries on miyagi do is on her
Another well thought through and brilliantly executed analysis video on Sam, very entertaining to watch also.. Thanks WatchParty!! Sam definitely lacks consistency and is very hypocritical
Watch Party: Another great video that made me think. Also, I'm not feeling well today and I feel like such a " good person " ,haha ! Getting sick and surviving I don't think makes hero's, it's just life. As far as Sam goes calling Tory crazy for fighting , I did originally think it was Tory who called her out on the speakers and then starting the whole school fight , but then again, in season 3 Sam leads the charge against them where Demeteri gets his arm broke. I don't think starting fights necessarily makes anyone crazy , but Tory does have anger issues greater maybe than anyone else , with Robby somewhere behind her . Do you think that's realistic that those unknown girls laughed at Sam for fighting ? I'm sure some would, but what would they have done ? Lay there and get beat on ? Perhaps Sam does have a point that women fighting does seem odd to other females and is more of a masculine act, and that's true , it doesn't mean that all females will stay away from it when forced to do so. Not sure if you succeeded from the first point of view that you pick on Sam with your video because you questioned everything she did, but oh well.
I'll list some direct positive traits Sam has: 1. One of the better fighters among the students in-universe. 2: She was nice enough to make the car wash fundraiser.
1- She’s one of the better fighters because she’s Daniel’s daughter and plot armor. I hope the actress who is self admittedly not very athletic continues to improve and bring it though. She improves each fight each season for sure. 2- she did the car wash fundraiser sure to help Miguel but also to help try and clean up hers and the Miyagi Do image.
@@td811 fax. Its like the show doesn’t want her to get beat up or hit by anyone other than tory. In a fight she has only been hit once by a male and he was a nobody side character
@@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102 he actually loses fights and gets hit she doesn’t. And he isn’t a character dat u could hate dats why, because they’re treating her like the main character
I think I understand Sam's character. Sam is the typical spoiled rich girl. She's her dad's little princess. and since Daniel is a local hero who came from nowhere and won the Karate competition two years in a row, she lives on her father's good reputation at least in her own head
Sam may have grown up privileged, but she's far from spoiled. Sam is caring (set up car wash to help Miguel's family pay for his surgery), works hard and does well in school, also very disciplined in her karate practice, helps out at home (spent a Saturday in season 1 helping her mom and grandma make peace with each other) and stands up for her friends (in seasons 2 and 3). With her wealthy upbringing, she could have easily been another Anthony or Yasmine who's obsessed with their looks, phone and material possessions, but she is quite the opposite. She experienced her own share of hardship as she was the target of date rape, cyber bullying, and slut shaming from Kyler in season 1, and violent assaults from Tory in seasons 2 and 3. Sam even showed Tory mercy when she gained the upper hand in the season 3 finale...while Tory continued to threaten her.
@@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102 Yes Sam has had hers difficulties and tries to do good too and loves her family. But we have also seen how badly she treated Alysa and Tori. Alysa was too nerdy for Sam so she stopped hanging out with Alysa and started hanging out with the more popular girls instead. Sam started the fight with Tori at Sam's party she decided that Torie was not good enough for her party and treated Torie quite badly not to mention attacking Tori at her work. Sam didnt care it was Tories' job and she might need to work because she needed money. These are reasons why many do not like Sam.
@@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102 I love Sam. I also think she has the best parents and the best world to live in, though I have to say I don’t like she has a horrible little brat for a brother. One touching moment was when she cries in the hospital and her mother clasps her to console her.
14:42 sorta of you still attacked Samantha a little bit. Like with the meme. 15:20 Feels like they’re trying to say we can overcome past trauma.We’ve all been there when we came back to a place where we had a past trauma before, in life and it all comes flooding back. I think the writers are trying to say that facing it will make you stronger. I don’t think it’s just meant to be a moment of female empowerment. I’m not saying it couldn’t be interpreted as that, but that’s just how I saw it. She was tired of being scared, she tried to overcome it and thought she was successful. But she was wrong. It took someone who could relate to her situation like Daniel. Daniel could relate because of mike Barnes, so he was able to bring her back. At least in the aspect of letting fear overcome you.
At 5:10 if they just had her arm out normally with the scar showing then she would not look weird at all, but since its tv I get why they had her hold it out so awkwardly.
I'm actually really surprised that Sam's line contrasting boys with girls winning made it past the censors given the third wave feminism of today. I'm glad it was said. As a woman opposed to feminism I must say that there's something unnatural about a woman having to fight physically, even if it's necessary for self-defense, and it sometimes definitely is. And even if she wins, having to fight still involves an unfortunate state of affairs. Men are required to fight, both defensively as well as offensively, and we can't escape the naturalness of male victory.
@@Jraptor131 it’s just about the fight for equality for women. I don’t understand how that’s illogical in any sense? All genders should be equal to each other and the first step is recognizing the differences society has made between men and women in general
Sam is a spoiled brat, who can't handle issues that most folks of lesser means are forced to deal with. However, she's cute, so we ignore the bad stuff about her.
The issue is that getting over the flu strength of character has no bearing on your recovery. While getting over anxiety strength of character does have a bearing on it. True you could be evil & have grit. But grit is overall an admirable trait regardless of questionable morals. Great heroes or antagonists have grit & determination.
The next Kreese? Kreese is hard and cruel from a hard and cruel life. Sam is priviliged and happy for the most part. She is just stuck in a weird situation sith Tory. Sam and Kreese are pretty much opposites.
Yo I think at least one student was like this shit is so stupid the 2 girls fight over a boy and then like 20 more students go into war for no apparent reason for the one girls boyfriend to nearly kill the dude they fought over see it just doesn’t make sense to the people that only knew about the boyfriends and nothing about the karate
Sam is an interesting complex character that people love to hate and it’s easy to see why. People have less sympathy for characters they can’t relate to and Sam is hard to relate to as she is presented as innocent and elite, seen in her wardrobe she’s always wearing purple and pink. I find many of your arguments valid she is a hypocrite and self centred but so are many characters they are all flawed which is why it’s such a good show. I feel many fans that are harsh on Sam are just sexist as she is the typical girlie girl yet is still strong. I enjoyed how your video showed these different viewpoints
Good video though i don’t entirely agree with it. In 303 she was saying Tory was crazy because of their rivalry and Sam and Tory just had it out for eachother, from her pov Tory was crazy(Tory is a psycho). But in 301, that cringy dialogue was saying that people were calling her crazy just based off the fact that she fought. I do like Sam and i think she is a good character, but i also know that she is pretty self centered at some times, and the daughter of a rich daniel (even though cant really control that). She has her flaws just like every character on the show, nice video man!
Interestingly unless I’m remembering wrong no one that we hear actually ever calls her crazy though. She just assumes it. She even assumed those girls in school were talking about her. But we never hear what they were saying or if it even had to do with Sam. Also Sam is the only one to call Tory crazy. Tory never calls Sam crazy. She does call her a bitch though. Other than Sam no one calls Tory crazy either. Tory is the one who says she thinks that’s what Miguel is implying and that she thinks everyone else thinks she’s crazy too.
@@levibergman-lane3505 again the girls were glancing at her here and there. She just Ass-umed they were talking about her. Even if they were what did she have to be embarrassed or upset about as far as the fight? Nothing. The only thing that makes sense for her to be upset about and think people are talking about her is the fact that Tory put her on blast and called her out in front of the whole school. She should be upset everyone thinks she’s a tramp going after Tory’s boyfriend. Not upset some little girls who don’t know how to fight might be thinking she’s crazy. Honestly her walking up to them being like “say it to my face!” “That’s what I thought!” Turn and storm off. That made her look and sound crazy. The looks on the girls faces were even like, um... okay... I’m inclined to think they weren’t talking about her at all.
Sure, in her head there is a very clear distinction. We can see it too. The problem is when you make broad statements about how "It's different for girls" you can't run around saying "This is an exception. No, this is an exception." When you're trying to explain minute differences that means you're losing. Plus others may not agree. Sam comes off bad, like a hypocrite.
She doesn’t destroy feminism. She’s a good example of feminism. Why does everyone hate on her? She had PTSD in season 3. ITS A REAL THING PEOPLE SUFFER FROM. She made some bad choices with Robby and Miguel, so what? That means she’s human. It wouldn’t be realistic if she made no mistakes.
@@fwfinessin4445 She attacked the Cobra Kai’s in the laser tag for a good reason, they were bullying Chris let alone had been bullying them multiple times before. She stuck up for her friends and herself. And she didn’t act like the victim, she had a panic attack during the fight and after was most likely still traumatized by that. She also said it was her fault that Demetri got his arm broken, and never said anything about the Cobra Kai’s attacking her or that she was the victim of the laser tag fight.
@@fwfinessin4445 She was traumatized by Tory and none of them expected Tory to show up. When they went to fight they were originally just fighting Hawk and some other Cobra Kai’s, not Tory. Her appearance was a surprise to all of them.
I do like sam as a character but Tory is the better character of the two. Tory is the better fighter and Tory's working 2 or three jobs paying the bills taking care of her sick mother and little brother. Plus Tory doesn't play the victim sure she let's her anger erupt. But who wouldn't at 17 going through what Tory is.
Your analysis is smart, but you attack only Sam's character over traits that all teenagers exhibit. In fact, most adults use hypocrisy and double standards to their benefit. Teenage girls are especially vulnerable in their emotions. They need and seek attention and validation all the time. Teenage boys are inherently more closed off and "secure" in their ways. You don't have issues with Tory because she acts like a boy. She has all the emotional characteristics of a boy. That's why guys tend to prefer her over Sam, imo.
@Anti Sam Larusso The difference is that the boys use Sam as their hub. Everyone is connected to her. Miguel sought her out. So did Robby. So did Kyler. Just so happens that they are all enemies. No matter what choices Sam makes, shes comes off as the villain to someone. Tory has caused plenty of problems. If you want to blame Sam for the kiss, blame Miguel more. He knew she was drunk. She had told him to leave her alone several times. He didn't. That kiss was 100% perpetrated by Miguel. She's a single person that all sides of the rivalry have ties to. That's going to cause conflict without her even doing anything.
Sam the character is absolutely horrible I heard the actress that plays her is very nice but that character is awful she is like the biggest antagonist of the whole show
I actually appreciate the character for that reason. Obviously the actress plays the part very well. The thing I don’t like is how they are trying to have us just accept her as the “good girl” who just defends herself from “bullies”
Yeah dude. this whole thing is irrational "i'm angry at women" nonsense and projection... I was hoping to hear real reasons how Sam destroyed feminism and instead I got an insecure guy whining about girls instead :/ And I want you to listen to yourself and really see how you are mirroring feminists with your rhetoric right now.
This whole video is biased and I don't even like sam ,but I see that its clear you just don't like her character and cannot give props when they're do. She doesn't destroy feminism. Its kind of amusing that you flipped most of your points to make her character unlikable. Tory is very crazy and it showed when she went to attack the girl instead of checking her boyfriend who was trash for cheating on her. She also proved how crazy she was in season 3 and she constantly uses her mother being sick as an excuse to do reckless behavior. Then to add insult to injury you keep calling her crazy because she held her arm up and looked at her scar and the staircase to take her power back and not let it faze her. You just don't like her character at all which is fine, but to make bashing videos on her and flip everything she does that is positive into a negative is ridiculous.
I think Sam's character is meant so that the writers will be able to help her character growth. If she was perfect and desirable, it just wont be interesting and the only thing they can do is to make her some "villain", its all about the storyline. I used to dislike Johnny in Season 1, cuz I thought he was some "villan" like kreese but over the course of the series, he has easily became my top 5 characters'
It will be interesting to see what kind of a teacher Silver will be with someone he actually wants to see succeed. In KK3, the whole "Quick-Silver Method" he does with Daniel is more to deceive and hurt him, to leave him ripe to be picked apart by Mike Barnes. However, I'm pretty sure Silver will NOT turn out to be Tory's father.
I'm maybe halfway through this video and one thing regarding your analysis of students thinking Sam was crazy. Everyone at school heard Tory tank the mic away from the person doing the announcements and say "I'm coming for you, B#*CH!" Having said that, I'm pretty sure it's a way smaller percentage of students who thought Sam was in the wrong. Your analysis is pretty impressive, but you're reaching in certain aspects
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Well.....
I think people think Sam is better in season 3 than the other seasons because her character was more focused on her PTSD than......... Her talking or being obnoxious.
Which I and most people agree of
Plus all the world to Mary mouser
Imagine playing a character you disagree with. (She said that in one of the videos of the cast doing the cobra kai quiz(I'm that much of a fan to know this)).
Btw feminism nowadays is all about double double standards
Great video. I really love your stuff
Another great video WatchParty. About time the creators started acknowledging your work, which adds layers and dimensions to the show that mostly would just never be seen. I even agree with one comment that once said your videos can be more fun than the show itself! Hope the creators see this and raise their game! 👏👍
My favorite videos are the videos when you rip on Sam! To be honest only thing that could save her character in my eyes is owning up to her mistakes and admitting she's been a self centered bitch for a long ass time and literally changing her ways. One of the first people she'd need to apologize to is Aisha. Then Tory, then Miguel, then Robby. Either that or she becomes a full blown villain and everyone unites to take her down.
it is pretty refreshing seeing a woman actually be strong, have issues and overcome them, and not elevate herself by bashing men. kind of like the writers are good
thank you finally someone that has a good point
There are no ‘good’ or ‘bad’ character in cobra kai. Everyone is flawed, it’s what makes them human.
Right. Except in season 3 it does seem (at least to me) that they made a lot of effort to do away with the gray area regarding Sam and have her come across as the good girl “you go girl” strong woman with legit struggles vs the bad girl “that bitch is crazy” who does extreme things for no good reason psycho Tory. Or perhaps it’s just because her dealing with fear and ptsd just makes her very sympathetic at least on first watch.
@@td811 but she is still shown to make mistakes, like on the football field
@@vikavoltisepic3507 everyone knows dat sam is nowhere near an angel. She started dis whole mess in da show and is tryna play innocent. I wanna see her get whooped in s4 badly
Thank you dude finally somebody understands
@@monibelit2325 I’m not saying she’s perfect, I’m saying she’s pretty much most of the other characters. A flawed hero. Also you could say that about Miguel too, if he didn’t hit Sam. This wouldn’t have happened. If Demitri joined cobra Kai, this wouldn’t have happened. Also “I wanna see her get whooped in s4 badly” why? That’s kinda sadistic....
I clicked the video as fast as Sam changing boyfriends
That would break the internet.
@ethereal flower Yeah, Tory LOVED Miguel so much that she NEVER went to the hospital to see him. Never called, or texted. Nothing, never.
Tory moved in on Miguel because they started off on the wrong foot, He was the top dog at her new school, and inserted herself when she saw the opportunity to rub salt in a wound. I don't care for Sam, but Tory is a straight up bitch.
Sam at least has conscience, instilled by her parents that built their fortune, but her conscience is constantly clashing with her "princess" status and plastic clique.
Tory was willing to commit murder because Sam and Miguel kissed, while knowing that Miguel still had feelings for Sam, because she was so anxious to get her shots in she couldn't let Miguel get over his first girlfriend.
Impossible
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@@AnonymousC-lm6tc Yes, but Ali was being toxic about it. The Kumiko switch might've been a little jerky, but he didn't actually DATE Jessica Andrews
Tbh i didnt even care about those dialogues that much. This guy is a genius.
Very well said.
Cliff Notes: She's a typical LaRusso.
Writers are always in favor of sam
Dude, PTSD is way harder to overcome than mano. And it is VERY admirable because not everyone gets over it.
Also, Language is very important and is missing from your analysis. "Deciding to go crazy" is describing someone's action. Saying "That girl is crazy" is describing a person's state of mind. TOTALLY DIFFERENT!
Kreese, Silver, and Chosen all realistic depictions of PTSD, and they’re still all badass, fleshed out, and more well written characters than Samantha Larusso is.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr because they are adults and Sam is a teen so use your brain
Samantha LaRusso is the hidden antagonist of Cobra Kai, she did what Kreese could only wish for. With just one kiss, she was able to mentally and physically break both top students from both dojos.
Eli and Robby were the 2 finalists Niether of them could lay a glove on Sam.
Touch grass. Please.
I mean, Tory did try to kill her for kissing Miguel. Like dear god.
Exactly!!! There is always bias in this fandom...
Totally agree with you. The writer tried too hard to make her a good character, but she became a spoiled giant baby, instead.
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Sam got deep, phycological dives into her mental state in comfy mansion, meanwhile Tory gets little to no extra plots as she struggles with her relationships and feeding her family. Sam gets more screen time, yet we like Tory more.
If you need to pass Hayden, she made a car fund for Miguel’s sugery.
Johnny donated the most money for Miguel’s surgery.
@@dopey._.crispy3981 so?
You killed me with the hand in the air comparison LMAO!!!
Sam comes from a privileged life, having a good home with a caring family that taught many good qualities. Where she is flawed is that she knows things abstractly, as in understanding the idea of things, but she wasn’t truly understanding those concepts like Miguel, Tory, Johnny, Robby and Daniel because they didn’t or don’t come from privileged homes. Those 5 had to fight to gain that understanding to gain their success and open their mind, Sam didn’t have to do that until the big school brawl and eventually, very slowly, is getting those lessons. Watch Party does it right, she does things without noticing what she’s doing, something many teenagers do, sometimes having double standards and self-centered; common traits found in many teenagers. She’s slowly truly understanding how life is and what can be right and wrong depending on perception.
Totally true yet if you watch the show from season 1 to season 3, Sam has been antagonist towards Cobra Kai first it was Miguel should switch dojo then people can argue all they want she set her sights on Tory since country club and she found out she was dating Miguel and in Cobra Kai. She wanted to push Tory she was stalking her on the phone watching her train she was getting ready to fight her period yet no one brings that up. Tory decided like most people I have had enough of this antagonist its on and really who can blame her if you watch this show Sam has attacked her, attacked Cobra Kai at the gym and laser tag room then is getting everyone together to fight them again Tory hears about this meeting and attacks them on her terms. The point Tory made about this ends tonight I think was her telling Sam no more dodging me at the gym and laser tag room I am going to pick the spot we fight and you will face me! That was what I took from it all. Everyone is the bad guy in there own story in Sam she tells Miguel no excuse for her to be a bully yet in Tory mind Sam is antagonist accusing me of stealing then bad mouthing me to kissing my man she is tasking me to react. To be fair the school fight Tory called out Sam and took it to her until Robbie actually stopped it, the fight only kept going because Miguel defend his girl ( Tory) because he seen Robbie had his hands on her. That's a no no one thing you never do is put your hands on a women. That actually started the whole school all out brawl If your being honest that's what happen. So sadly Miguel told Sam he was with Tory and stopped the kiss then defended Tory in the school fight clearly if he would of told Tory I am with you and I told Sam exactly that this whole mess would of never happen. Tory and Miguel would still be together and Robbie and Sam those pairings are the best for all of them hands down.
@@dalelapointe9289 Robby tried to stop the fight between Sam and Tory, but Miguel saw the hand on Tory and thought he was attacking her. This whole situation happened between them because of huge misunderstandings that costed a lot. I’m not excusing Sam for what she did, all I’m saying is that errors were made because emotions were high. Sam is a spoiled brat that knows more than she understand until the brawl, Tory is stressed from the life she has lived with her sick mother and looking out for her little brother so she will bite anyone who destroys her little peace of mind, Robby has yet to truly learn what it meant to be forgiving and let things go and Miguel was in the middle of everything so he didn’t get the full picture but he doesn’t hold grudges, unlike the other previous three mentioned
I love how this show in very creative ways at the end of the day humbles each and every character
In s3 i actually took more a liking to Sam becasue i personally no joke had a bad anxiety attack about 4 yrs ago with me juggling with life problems, school work, trial and error with many meds that made everything worse, I’m able to relate to her more than many becasue i actually went though
I actually do think that Sam got better as a character in Season 3 but I feel that it was more here becoming more of a leader and merging Eagle Fang and Miyagi do
But she had to learn how to follow before she can lead the dojo/friend group
Id say season 5 is when she started getting better
Sam defending herself and then looked at as crazy because she’s a woman is very unfair and a double standard. Tory really did go crazy. She didn’t want to beat Sam up. She was intending to kill her. She then invaded her house to kill Sam again. Now raising your arm in public might look odd without context, but trying to end someone’s life because they kissed your boyfriend is crazy. Being awkward in public and even cheating, while not the best, are NOT crimes that can send you to jail. Trying to kill someone is. Your comparison and analysis is way WAY off.
Did we not forget that she initiated to intentionally attack cobra Kai on soccer field and got mad when she got detention
Than to ambush cobra Kai in the mall only for Tory to come in. Because of her, she got one of her friends arm broken.
Than cried to mommy and not telling the truth on who started the fight. She made herself the victim when she realize she bit more than she can chew on initiating the ambush on cobra Kai
All very true.
@@kickinbackbeingcool *cringes*
There was no need to break Dimitri s arm That was just Hawk being a jerk and Kreese brainwashing.
Have people forgotten what the Cobra Kai students did before that?? Im pretty sure they attacked Nate for no reason. That was BEFORE the soccer game, AND, im pretty sure if you count, the Cobra Kai students have started WAY more fights before, once again, for NO reason
@@Sebsisme , Daniel Laracist, Anathony Lapusso, and Daniel’s cousin are all people that either own electronics and media made from monopolies, or they own a monopoly themselves like the Larusso car dealerships which has more than enough founds for Miguel to immediately recover from his coma; him immediately being able to walk again, and him returning better from that operation than he was in his prime in Season 1 and Season 2 self, but instead Samantha LaCringe and the Miyagi-Do Karate Dojo decided to make Miguel their poster child for the car wash charity that didn’t even had the funds put into that I mentioned because Johnny Lawrence was the person that healed Miguel’s injuries like how he cured his asthma and made Miguel have perfect teeth without braces, so clearly no the Cobra Kai students did nothing wrong in Season 3 of Cobra Kai.
Sam is not a hypocrite nor invalidates feminism for one reason. The context for the motivations of Sam’s aggression and Tory’s were completely different. What I believe Sam meant was that Tory had no right going crazy because Tory was not under threat. Therefore, considering Tory was the perpetrator of violence at the school over a non-life threatening reason then that’s what I mean when I say the context was right for Sam to assume Tory chose to go crazy. Sam’s context for showing aggression when noticing people talking about her might have been due to the impact of gender stereotypes along with the violence she had received. My point is that if Sam’s reaction to this was a self-defence reaction to the socially damaging stereotypes out there and for acting in self defence then Sam could have thought she had legitimate grounds to claim she was not the crazy one. Like I said, the context for the motivation behind the violence of Sam and Tory, including their reasons were completely different, which could mean that Sam may well have used the word crazy appropriately when taking into account the difference in aggressive motivation contexts. What we all have to remember is that there’s many people out there who do judge women and girls as ‘crazy’ just for defending themselves. Also, determining whether some comment is appropriate to make by a given person highly depends on the context of the situation
Calling Tory crazy was different than everyone thinking Sam was crazy. Tory started the school fight. She didn't stop to think that maybe she dodged a bullet. Sam may have been "crazy" to start the soccer and lazer tag fights but those fights didn't happen before she visited Miguel in the hospital. And how is this a video of her positive traits?
Not really that different, both are seen as crazy for fist fighting. As for the positive trait, he explained that the writers used her character to make a joke about feminists.
Tbh I don't understand the video and neither do you, this guy is too smart.
@Anti Sam Larusso What Sam did was wrong on many levels but that didn't give Tory the right to be a sadistic psycho.
@Anti Sam Larusso Well it gave Sam PTSD and she's a sadistic psycho in season 3 saying she has to "make her own fun."
EXACTLY
Unfortunately for Sam, this quality is not exclusive to her. Moon kinda also destroyed feminism by saying Sam going down on Kyler in a movie theater was "icky", then claim that she's a sexually positive feminist at the car wash.
The way to look at that is that Moon in season 1 was putting up the persona of an "alpha bitch". You could tell she was hesitant to join in Yasmine's bullying of Aisha.
They are kids tho. Their views can change 100 times before they graduate high school. I think they only mentioned that Moon was a feminist to make fun of feminism a little.
@Hatersoftloup2arepathetic Yoloswag I don't understand their opinions of Sam at all. The entertainment industry pumps out terrible female protagonists a lot but Sam isn't one of them. She is a flawed but realistic human who has actual weaknesses and parts of herself to work on. That's about as well written as characters get. If she were a Mary Sue I would hate her and she would diminish the whole show. As it is she adds more to the show and especially in season 3.
@@cobrakats7440 She's also kind of alot like Daniel was in his youth and still tends to be. Daniel could be rather confrontational, he has the tendency to be judgemental and has a hard time letting go of a first negative impression of people and we should not forget that Daniel was rather flicky when it came to his love live, being quite a mess in that regard. I think what makes people more critical of her is probably, that both inherited aspects of Daniels original role from Karate Kid, with Miguel inheriting Daniels underdog role in the story while Sam shares many of Daniels original and current character traits.
@@shizachan8421 Good point. Idk why I just saw this.
I love your idea for Tory! That would’ve been incredible. It would’ve showed Kreese respects Tory in his own twisted way, but still had those brutal standards he had for Johnny and all the others, “did they hurt your feelings?” It feels like, this was the original plan the writers had before unexpectedly changing it for some reason.
How can Samantha’s actions destroy feminism when she has never declared herself to be a feminist in the first place? Double standards exist whether for men or women. Just because Samantha cited the double standard about girls fighting and then contradicted herself later on does not mean that double standards do not exist. She is a flawed character just like the other characters in the show, and just like real people. Also, feminism is more than just double standards, and if you ever bother to know more about feminism and the movement beyond what you see in social media, you’ll understand this better.
Could you guys imagine if watch party went on a date with Mary Mouser (acting as Sam LaRusso from Cobra Kai) 🤣🤣🤣 THAT would be EPIC!!!!! I would pay to watch their date! LOL
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Yeah but WatchParty never has anything against her actor , just the character
Damn, Great video. I personally believe in the second option more than the first cuz I feel like Cobra Kai writers would've made it a bit more obvious if that was the message they were trying to convey. If you had to catch on to the double standard message, the audience member would've had to pay close attention to and analyze two different lines and then compare them to real-world issues. It just makes more sense that Sam is a bit self-centered and trying to justify herself.
That's fair.
@@watchparty1 Sam vs Tory who's a better fighter
You set me up I got my right hand up while watching this and my sister asked wtf am I doing😂 Great video tho
Hahaha !
Nice!
6:15 TBF Tory did start a huge high school brawl that she announced over the PA system, just because a girl had a two second kiss with her boyfriend. I think “go crazy” is a fair enough description of the way she acted.
Same is a really good character and person people just hate her for what she did while she was drunk which was kiss Miguel most teenagers in her place probably would've made the same mistake
she is not a good character
Hayden: You're being too harsh on Sam.
Me: Can't you just write her to be a better, less manipulating and more self-less person?
Hayden: We gave her ptsd. Take it or leave it.
This is actually really funny.
Sam got advice from her dad to get the courage to stand up to Tory in the house fight. She organized the car wash that paid for Miguel's surgery. She made it clear she only wants Miguel in s3. She avoided serving alcohol when uniting both Eagle Fang and Miyagi Do. She stood up for Demetri when Hawk wrecked his science project. She defended Demetri from Hawk at the mall. And she saved the all valley tournament with Miguel's help. And she trained her friends to defend themselves against CK when her dad was in Okinawa. And she's undoubtedly loyal to her dad and Miyagi Do. And she's the only Miyagi Do student that's never been in CK and has never considered being in CK. She's not perfect, but she has matured a lot since s1 and learns from her mistakes and tries to do what is right. How does that destroy feminism?
"And she's the only Miyagi Do student that's never been in CK and has never considered being in CK." Although others like Aisha have thought she'd fit in there.
@@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102 well that's bc Sam was already a pretty good fighter even before she got serious about karate again, plus Aisha didn't want there to be any tension between them being in feuding dojos, but Sam can't be in CK bc she's Daniel's daughter.
@Anti Sam Larusso How does it lack context if they are all facts about Sam? And especially when your name makes it clear that you hate Sam with all your guts? Pls, I'd like you to tell me how any of what I just said about Sam is false. I have watched the whole show multiple times and I pay attention to all the little details that some Sam haters choose to overlook bc of how much they hate Sam. So tell me, how is any of what I just said about Sam lacking context?
@Anti Sam Larusso Hawk may have been right about his little sleeping comment, but that didn't give him the right to just change the subject about him destroying Demetri's science project. She tried telling him to stop, but Hawk wouldn't listen. So what if Sam was training her friends to start fights with CK? The CK kids aren't just a normal group of kids who will leave them alone like when they beat up poor Nate, destroyed Demetri's science project, and bothered Chris at work, so Sam thought she was protecting her friends by starting fights with them until after the arcade fight, which is when she realized starting fights ain't the way either. I gave the credit to saving the tournament to Miguel too. The rest of what you wrote is just painting Sam as a villain without evidence to back up that Sam would ever have any of those intentions you ranted about. This is just you being mad that I am one of the very few fans that can see Sam isn't a villain, and I don't leave details out, unlike biased Sam haters like you.
@Anti Sam Larusso She wanted Miguel to see what his psycho girlfriend did to her, so he can see what kind of person Tory really is. Sam may not be entirely innocent, but Miguel cheating on Tory with Sam does not give Tory the right to use Sam as her punching bag. Miguel would've apologized to her for cheating had she not beat up Sam. Sam doesn't own an apology to Tory, it's Miguel who owed an apology to her. Sam wasn't interfering, she was trying to tell Hawk to leave Demetri alone. Sam may have been jealous seeing Tory with Miguel, but hearing about Miguel returning the medal of honor is what changed her feelings for Miguel. So what if Sam fake tripped to get Miguel's attention, she and Miguel both had feelings for each other. You only want to blame Sam for the kiss, but Miguel was perfectly sober and didn't have to kiss her back, but he did bc he likes her too. If CK didn't want miyagi do to have all the credit for Miguel's surgery, they should've just participated in the car wash or raised the money by themselves, instead of having to resort to assault and plagiarism for something they worked squat for. How dare you try to justify Hawk destroying Demetri's science project. Demetri was minding his own business, and Hawk just wrecks it. Hawk already punished Demetri for that stuff in s2 at the school fight. Why does he need to bully Demetri any further? What CK did to Chris may not have been a very big deal(that was Chris's fault), but it was a big deal to Chris, so Sam thought she was standing up to CK for Chris. Sam started the soccer fight bc she didn't like that Hawk got away with destroying Demetri's science project, so she wanted to get CK in detention, which ended up backfiring only on her and her friends ending up in detention and CK getting off scot free, so she knew she couldn't start fights at school anymore. Plus, the soccer fight was kind of funny bc they should be kicking a ball into a net but instead, they choose to kick each other's faces. 😂
I don’t like how they made her character “afraid” of Tory. She literally won the fight at the end of season two😂so why turn her into a helpless child
She technically won, sure. But she had to go to the hospital for stitches and cracked ribs. And stay overnight for observation. Tory went to karate class later that day with Hawk and the others. Plus she rightly was feeling guilt for the school fight and all that led to it, Miguel getting severely injured and Robby on the run then juvie. Also Miguel’s fall happened shortly after Tory got kicked down the steps but wasn’t out of commission. I always imagined they were collecting themselves watching the end of a Miguel and Robby and if Miguel didn’t fall then Tory going after Sam again as security finally shows up.
@@td811 makes sense. I’ve been trying to put everything together for the longest lol. That’s a good point
I mean she got the last hit but Tory did way better overall
Sam prevailed in the S2 fight, but she far and away got the worst end of it. Tory completely controlled that fight until she made the mistake of showboating at the very end instead of just finishing Sam.
Nobody won the school fight really
Mary Mouser is so pretty
Dont simp
ikr,he such a simp
Duh!!!!!!
Can you fucking blame him? Like goddamn I simp for Ella purnell very hard!
Wearing the short sleeve shirt to Miguel’s hospital room was definitely calculated (you’re only paralyzed but look what happened to me) but when I compare her at the end of seasons 1 and 2, she seems to have grown.
Unlike Tory, she apologized to Miguel for her role in him landing in the hospital.
I want to see her and Johnny talk before I write her off as a Karen.
Nah she will end up as a karen when she is older. She cant even apologize without including herself in everything lmao she is a baby. No reason to turn her arm all da way around just to show your scar dat is nowhere near as bad as being paralyzed/ almost dead. She is born rich and tryna act like she been through shi she ain been through nothing serious
I have to disagree on the point that Sam was a hypocrite for calling Tory crazy. Let's face it, Tory did go crazy whether you think it can be justified or not. She's psycho. Sam was struggling and trying to defend herself for the whole fight, Sam wasn't the one being crazy. Sam was right to say Tory is crazy. Sam doesn't want to have a reputation for being crazy because she really isn't. As mentioned earlier, she was struggling and trying to defend herself. There's a difference between someone who is thought to be crazy and someone who actually is crazy.
At least there's someone smart to distinguish those traits.
2:16- 2:30 Basic fact about humanity, we tend to side with the pretty girl, assuming her to be the victim. In the case of the Tory vs. Sam feud, Tory and Sam are both pretty girls. No matter which side you take, you are siding against a pretty girl.
On a side note, I am routing for Tory and Sam to burry the hatchet in season 5.
I'm glad you can dive deep in the psyche of Sam and Tory and show the complexities of the writing that many would never even think about. It's always good to get different perspectives because we all have our own internal bias that directs our thinking. I think Sam is the normal, spoiled teen that wants it all, and is now trying to navigate the waters of things not going her way. Tory is the girl that is used to things not going her way, sees what she wants, and goes for it no matter the cost. Tory seems the reactionary type, responding to threats as they come. Sam seem the schemer, planning her movements.
Yet again, you have blown the other cobra Kai you tubers out of the water. Your analysis is always in a league of its own! Keep it up!!!
Thank you!
I'm in a mix between both. You have good points and some exaggerated points. She is good at times but bad at times.
I think they should hire a female writer to give their female leads a better contribution and arcs since the show is quite popular now
Episode 3 and 7 were written by women.
@@watchparty1 in season 3?
It doesn’t matter who writes the Ep as long as they write good Ep.
@@nahuellombardia6031 yes. She was a new writer to the staff on season 3.
Must’ve hurt to talk about Sam in a positive way huh? 🤮
This was a struggle for sure.
@@watchparty1 I bet it was. Great video man! I can’t wait for the next video.
Sam destroys feminism. That is a good character trait.
I think the Sam hatred is not only obsessive, it’s kinda sick. Sam is flawed but not a villain. I think many who hate this fictional character have deep insecurities themselves. I also feel the hatred towards the actress is sick too. This is why many are saying the CK fanbase is becoming toxic.
I don’t think anyone hates Sam. We dislike her for 3 seasons for sure. There are many reasons why. Yes She is flawed like all the other characters and not a villain, but. she’s not a hero either and especially in the 3rd season they seemed to be really pushing her that way especially with how they did Tory and the 2 of them juxtaposed.
Not sure what people you are paying attention too but I think it’s less than 1% of the cobra Kai fan base that actually “hates” the actress. That’s a delusional them problem not being able to separate a character role being played and a real person. Mary Mouser plays the Sam role great I think. She is one if the better actors on the show. She is however the weakest athletically and with the fights. The actress even admits it. She does get better each fight each season though. Credit to the actress there to taking the part and training seriously.
@@td811 the actress is a type one diabetic, that’s why. Diabetes is a very serious thing. And she also has suffered from anxiety as well in real life. Truthfully, there’s a lot of hatred towards the character as many of these weirdos even admit it. The writers seem to be put off by a lot of it, as it’s become very personal towards the actress. There’s also a sick obsession with Peyton List (Tory) and creeps having lustfull feelings for her. The actress has mentioned how uncomfortable she is with all of that. Like I said, the fanbase is starting to become very toxic and the actors and even the writers are all put off by that.
@Anti Sam Larusso A total lie and a ridiculous statement. I’m so sorry but that’s further from the truth! I guess you justify a home invasion which is a felony, right??
@@AJ0880 when did Peyton List say that?
@@AJ0880 True!!! Peyton and Mary are aware about it and its sad. Its because of all these Sam is horrible videos that are all over youtube and creeps obsession over Peyton List. Whether people want to admit it or not, thats what it comes down to. People dont like Sam cause there are fanboys who are WAY more obsessed over Peyton List
I saw this video in my feed and thought, "Oh man. This is gonna be a long one." Then I saw the time on it, and I thought, "Yep."
The problem is she has no struggle and it's hard to relate, Miguel was often getting bullied, Robby didn't have a father growing up, Tory's mom is sick so she has to take care of her Mom and brother and Demetri I'm not gonna say cause he's the most relatable, but Sam up until season 3 has not really had any issues and was portrayed as perfect, so because she's the daughter of Daniel who's rich and has no struggle to relate to she's seen as spoiled and entitled it was only when the writers saw that not everyone likes Sam they gave her the PTSD
So my point is make your main characters of your show RELATABLE
Demetri isn't relatable at all he's just annoying
@@ethanamaral6828 well yes but if you look at Demetri he gets bullied a lot and hawk is what some people wish to be, being popular, having the girl etc but most people are Demetri when they wish to be hawk, hawk is fantasy but Demetri is reality for some people that's why he's relatable
I thought Sam was the most believable character in season 3, and that is saying something because all of the characters were written well. I didnt really identify with her or fall into that damsel in distress thing. She was just really well done and became my favorite character in season 3 because of how well she was written.
Tory IS crazy lol. Sam being treated differently than Miguel or Hawk is true. What Tory did was not winning a fight, what she did was nuts. She attacked the announcement girl, and attacked Sam and wouldn't stop even when Sam asked her to.
Miguel also acted crazy. He should have helped Robby separate the girls. Miguel also acted out of character in that scene and it was one of the few mistakes made by the writers. It should have been Hawk attacking Robby, Robby gaining the upper hand and Miguel intervening to save Hawk, initiating the fight between Miguel and Robby. Tory is canonically crazy. She's supposed to be screwed up from her home life. Miguel isn't supposed to be screwed up. They just wrote him doing something that he wouldn't do.
Feminism destroys itself. They weren't trying to destroy feminism. They were just writing a good story. Feminism will eat dirt over and over again, whenever anyone is honest or realistic about almost anything.
Great analysis of Miguel's action at the beginning of the fight. I totally agree that his actions were out of character, and the writers dropped the ball on that one. I can't say I'm feeling this particular video by WatchParty though about Sam's feminism. This is one of his weaker videos.
@@kickinbackbeingcool Sam was right for telling Tory not to steal and it takes a lot more guts and character to tell a potential friend that they are in the wrong than it does to go along with it even when you know it's wrong. It's not surprising that Sam thought Tory was the theif since Tory had already admitted to theft and since Sam hadn't gone along with that theft, it was reasonable to think that Tory had taken exception and decided to steal Amanda's wallet in retaliation. Sam went about that confrontation very poorly. She should have texted Aisha something like, "My mom is missing her wallet. Can you just check or verify to me that your new friend didn't steal it?" Aisha could have texted back that she had been with Tory the entire time and would not have allowed her to do something like that.
@@kickinbackbeingcool Yeah she fucked up hard there. Sam is far from perfect and I would hate her if she was lol. I didn't like her or really care about her character in season 1. Season 2 she was a little better because they gave her more time, but I really didn't like her until season 3. I don't consider it a damsel in distress thing at all because if it had been a male character in that exact situation, no one would be saying that. Also, no one saved her. She saved herself. That is a heroes journey. She started out season 3 very weak and incapable and gained her strength in the end.
We will get nothing but Reys and Captain Marvels if people complain about "damsels in distress" whenever a female character has weaknesses. Weaknesses and struggle are what make a character worth watching.
Watching them get stronger and more capable is an enjoyable experience. That can't happen if they are perfect from the start.
Oops, I think I read part of my first comment and misread it as you saying she was a damsel in distress.
I didn’t think that Miguel acted out of Character he has been shown to be very protective of Tory like when Sam knocked her over at the Roller Rink like he was one of the only people in the rink who actually reacted and he was angry
5:20 is exactly why I love watch party 😂😂
Predicting the next Watch Party video: "Why Sam is responsible for the COVID pandemic"
Interesting take on transferring some of Sam's arc to Tory!
It essentially could have been a reprise of Johnny's influence on Aisha back in S1. But in a manner that is COMPLETELY Kreese's style on approaching a similar situation. Not to mention how it would have been an interesting opportunity to prove that for better or worse, Cobra Kai has an effective answer to helping young people get through that type of ordeal
(cyberbullying, harassment, etc).
Not to mention that it would have even FURTHER solidified Tory's loyalty to Kreese.
This is the content I subscribed this channel for.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
I hope no one ends up hating MARY MOUSER for this role 😂😂😂😂
No one hates Mary mouser. She plays the part great.
I never understood anyone hating the actor or actress. I don’t think that actually happens hardly at all except for people who cannot make a distinction between a part being played and a real person.
I can however see people getting down on actors if they are just terrible or not a good fit for a role. Even then that’s more of a casting problem.
@@td811 I agree with you 👍
@@td811 I think I remember seeing a comment about hating Mary Mouser cause of her role
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Yeah that Agni crap Kai he hates Mary mouser also just because she played role of Samantha
Not me seeing this video and immediately remembering the scene where she didn’t know what feminism is and thinking this video was gonna explain how feminists can very much wear a bikini
I left that part out. Can't cover everything.
@Mike H, no she doesn’t, Tory looks sexy in bikinis
@@agnikaineverdies7646 they both look sexy in bikinis
@@cameronheaton5351 yooo nice pfp!
@@cameronheaton5351, Nahh only Tory does
My suggested name for Johnny's Dojo.
" Bird's Of Prey Karate"
With pic of both Eagle & a Hawk
Now that's bad ass and the analogy of killing a snake still in tact!!l
Great vid. Lol, the big 3 must “hate” you sooo much 😂
Probably. Likely.
I just hate how Daniel thinks she is a wonderful person who never does anything wrong
She is his daughter; he will almost always be on her side. Plus, he hears and trusts her side for that reason.
@@criticallycheesycaleb6681 I know I feel like he just thinks his daughter is incapable of wrong doing
@@Goaty9116 I guess that part of it isn't very surprising either when you consider his response to Miguel in S3. Miguel mentioned the Halloween Dance where Daniel placed a hose over Johnny. Instead of saying something like "yeah, that was wrong of me," he responded along the lines of "you would have done the same thing if you were in my position." Let alone his more recent d!ick moves, he still won't take responsibility for his actions from several decades ago.
I know Sam isn’t liked, but I don’t understand why people just hate her so much. She started like two fights, big deal. Tory started the whole school fight which had Miguel get injured, while being in the big house fight and using a weapon.
Tory started two fights big deal, Sam started the whole arcade brawl that got Demetri injured
@@agnikaineverdies7646 yeah the school fight was bigger than the arcade fight. Miguel’s injury was bigger than demetri’s
@Hatersoftloup2arepathetic Yoloswag, Tory started a 1v1 fight in which others voluntarily got involved in, Tory can’t possibly be held accountable for Robby deciding to kill Miguel, Sam on the other hand didn’t initiate a 1v1 fight at the arcade, she organized a whole gang fight so all injuries on miyagi do is on her
@@agnikaineverdies7646 if Tory never started the fight, Miguel wouldn’t have been injured.
Another well thought through and brilliantly executed analysis video on Sam, very entertaining to watch also.. Thanks WatchParty!! Sam definitely lacks consistency and is very hypocritical
Thank you dude!. Glad you enjoyed it.
@@watchparty1 ‘dudette’ lol 😝
Oh how I've waited for this🙌🙌
Watch Party: Another great video that made me think. Also, I'm not feeling well today and I feel like such a " good person " ,haha ! Getting sick and surviving I don't think makes hero's, it's just life.
As far as Sam goes calling Tory crazy for fighting , I did originally think it was Tory who called her out on the speakers and then starting the whole school fight , but then again, in season 3 Sam leads the charge against them where Demeteri gets his arm broke. I don't think starting fights necessarily makes anyone crazy , but Tory does have anger issues greater maybe than anyone else , with Robby somewhere behind her .
Do you think that's realistic that those unknown girls laughed at Sam for fighting ? I'm sure some would, but what would they have done ? Lay there and get beat on ? Perhaps Sam does have a point that women fighting does seem odd to other females and is more of a masculine act, and that's true , it doesn't mean that all females will stay away from it when forced to do so.
Not sure if you succeeded from the first point of view that you pick on Sam with your video because you questioned everything she did, but oh well.
I'll list some direct positive traits Sam has:
1. One of the better fighters among the students in-universe.
2: She was nice enough to make the car wash fundraiser.
1- She’s one of the better fighters because she’s Daniel’s daughter and plot armor.
I hope the actress who is self admittedly not very athletic continues to improve and bring it though. She improves each fight each season for sure.
2- she did the car wash fundraiser sure to help Miguel but also to help try and clean up hers and the Miyagi Do image.
@@td811 fax. Its like the show doesn’t want her to get beat up or hit by anyone other than tory. In a fight she has only been hit once by a male and he was a nobody side character
Sam fights like shit
@@monibelit2325 If you're gonna criticize Sam for having "plot armor", then you also need to have the same criticism for Miguel.
@@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102 he actually loses fights and gets hit she doesn’t. And he isn’t a character dat u could hate dats why, because they’re treating her like the main character
1:08 sometime after season 3, like never 😂
I think I understand Sam's character.
Sam is the typical spoiled rich girl. She's her dad's little princess. and since Daniel is a local hero who came from nowhere and won the Karate competition two years in a row, she lives on her father's good reputation at least in her own head
Sam may have grown up privileged, but she's far from spoiled. Sam is caring (set up car wash to help Miguel's family pay for his surgery), works hard and does well in school, also very disciplined in her karate practice, helps out at home (spent a Saturday in season 1 helping her mom and grandma make peace with each other) and stands up for her friends (in seasons 2 and 3). With her wealthy upbringing, she could have easily been another Anthony or Yasmine who's obsessed with their looks, phone and material possessions, but she is quite the opposite. She experienced her own share of hardship as she was the target of date rape, cyber bullying, and slut shaming from Kyler in season 1, and violent assaults from Tory in seasons 2 and 3. Sam even showed Tory mercy when she gained the upper hand in the season 3 finale...while Tory continued to threaten her.
@@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102 Yes Sam has had hers difficulties and tries to do good too and loves her family. But we have also seen how badly she treated Alysa and Tori. Alysa was too nerdy for Sam so she stopped hanging out with Alysa and started hanging out with the more popular girls instead. Sam started the fight with Tori at Sam's party she decided that Torie was not good enough for her party and treated Torie quite badly not to mention attacking Tori at her work. Sam didnt care it was Tories' job and she might need to work because she needed money. These are reasons why many do not like Sam.
@@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102
I love Sam. I also think she has the best parents and the best world to live in, though I have to say I don’t like she has a horrible little brat for a brother. One touching moment was when she cries in the hospital and her mother clasps her to console her.
14:42 sorta of you still attacked Samantha a little bit. Like with the meme. 15:20 Feels like they’re trying to say we can overcome past trauma.We’ve all been there when we came back to a place where we had a past trauma before, in life and it all comes flooding back. I think the writers are trying to say that facing it will make you stronger. I don’t think it’s just meant to be a moment of female empowerment. I’m not saying it couldn’t be interpreted as that, but that’s just how I saw it. She was tired of being scared, she tried to overcome it and thought she was successful. But she was wrong. It took someone who could relate to her situation like Daniel. Daniel could relate because of mike Barnes, so he was able to bring her back. At least in the aspect of letting fear overcome you.
At 5:10 if they just had her arm out normally with the scar showing then she would not look weird at all, but since its tv I get why they had her hold it out so awkwardly.
Seriously your videos are the best cobra Kai videos!
Yes! That's an opinion I can get behind!
@@watchparty1 thanks for the reply and I always look forward to your next videos!
She’s so manipulative it’s agitating
That’s literally Tory not her
I'm actually really surprised that Sam's line contrasting boys with girls winning made it past the censors given the third wave feminism of today. I'm glad it was said. As a woman opposed to feminism I must say that there's something unnatural about a woman having to fight physically, even if it's necessary for self-defense, and it sometimes definitely is. And even if she wins, having to fight still involves an unfortunate state of affairs. Men are required to fight, both defensively as well as offensively, and we can't escape the naturalness of male victory.
Well said. Thank you for sharing.
May I ask how in the world you are a woman opposed to feminism??
@@ilachristine6396 because there's people in the world with common sense
@@Jraptor131 it’s just about the fight for equality for women. I don’t understand how that’s illogical in any sense? All genders should be equal to each other and the first step is recognizing the differences society has made between men and women in general
@@ilachristine6396 Equality is a mathematical term and has no meaning outside that context.
Mary Mouser is typing...
Thats interesting,the crazy thing didnt get trough to me,because the german synchro does use words that put it in a different context.
Bro ge just called out all the simps
Finally another Sam video
pov: you've been here since before cobra kai came out
Sam is a spoiled brat, who can't handle issues that most folks of lesser means are forced to deal with. However, she's cute, so we ignore the bad stuff about her.
A spoiled brat is someone who acts edgy and entitled aka Tory
The issue is that getting over the flu strength of character has no bearing on your recovery. While getting over anxiety strength of character does have a bearing on it. True you could be evil & have grit. But grit is overall an admirable trait regardless of questionable morals. Great heroes or antagonists have grit & determination.
Sam is innocently evil. 😞
She’s going to become the next Kreese!
Is this inconsistent writing or a plan for the character?
The next Kreese? Kreese is hard and cruel from a hard and cruel life. Sam is priviliged and happy for the most part. She is just stuck in a weird situation sith Tory. Sam and Kreese are pretty much opposites.
Yo I think at least one student was like this shit is so stupid the 2 girls fight over a boy and then like 20 more students go into war for no apparent reason for the one girls boyfriend to nearly kill the dude they fought over see it just doesn’t make sense to the people that only knew about the boyfriends and nothing about the karate
Hayden is typing...
She is a pretty young lady and plays Samantha really well, but I don’t like the spoiled entitled character that is Samantha!
@Hatersoftloup2arepathetic Yoloswag, she is spoiled get over it
i think it was okay to wear the shirt but litterly touching the scars yeah hes gonna see
Sam is an interesting complex character that people love to hate and it’s easy to see why. People have less sympathy for characters they can’t relate to and Sam is hard to relate to as she is presented as innocent and elite, seen in her wardrobe she’s always wearing purple and pink. I find many of your arguments valid she is a hypocrite and self centred but so are many characters they are all flawed which is why it’s such a good show. I feel many fans that are harsh on Sam are just sexist as she is the typical girlie girl yet is still strong. I enjoyed how your video showed these different viewpoints
Good video though i don’t entirely agree with it. In 303 she was saying Tory was crazy because of their rivalry and Sam and Tory just had it out for eachother, from her pov Tory was crazy(Tory is a psycho). But in 301, that cringy dialogue was saying that people were calling her crazy just based off the fact that she fought. I do like Sam and i think she is a good character, but i also know that she is pretty self centered at some times, and the daughter of a rich daniel (even though cant really control that). She has her flaws just like every character on the show, nice video man!
Interestingly unless I’m remembering wrong no one that we hear actually ever calls her crazy though. She just assumes it. She even assumed those girls in school were talking about her. But we never hear what they were saying or if it even had to do with Sam.
Also Sam is the only one to call Tory crazy.
Tory never calls Sam crazy. She does call her a bitch though. Other than Sam no one calls Tory crazy either. Tory is the one who says she thinks that’s what Miguel is implying and that she thinks everyone else thinks she’s crazy too.
@@td811 I mean what would you think if a bunch of groups of people were looking directly at you whispering about you?
@@levibergman-lane3505 again the girls were glancing at her here and there. She just Ass-umed they were talking about her. Even if they were what did she have to be embarrassed or upset about as far as the fight? Nothing. The only thing that makes sense for her to be upset about and think people are talking about her is the fact that Tory put her on blast and called her out in front of the whole school. She should be upset everyone thinks she’s a tramp going after Tory’s boyfriend. Not upset some little girls who don’t know how to fight might be thinking she’s crazy. Honestly her walking up to them being like “say it to my face!” “That’s what I thought!” Turn and storm off.
That made her look and sound crazy. The looks on the girls faces were even like, um... okay...
I’m inclined to think they weren’t talking about her at all.
@@td811 Ok sure bud, we literally heard it but ok
Sure, in her head there is a very clear distinction. We can see it too. The problem is when you make broad statements about how "It's different for girls" you can't run around saying "This is an exception. No, this is an exception." When you're trying to explain minute differences that means you're losing. Plus others may not agree. Sam comes off bad, like a hypocrite.
Mary is a Feminist, but Sam is not until near the end of Season 5.
Amazing video! I can't wait to bring this up in the cobra kai subreddit and get downvoted by the sam white knights and sam empathizers
She doesn’t destroy feminism. She’s a good example of feminism. Why does everyone hate on her? She had PTSD in season 3. ITS A REAL THING PEOPLE SUFFER FROM. She made some bad choices with Robby and Miguel, so what? That means she’s human. It wouldn’t be realistic if she made no mistakes.
she always trys to act like the victim. A example would be when she attacked Cobra Kai and then trys to act like a victim
@@fwfinessin4445 She attacked the Cobra Kai’s in the laser tag for a good reason, they were bullying Chris let alone had been bullying them multiple times before. She stuck up for her friends and herself. And she didn’t act like the victim, she had a panic attack during the fight and after was most likely still traumatized by that. She also said it was her fault that Demetri got his arm broken, and never said anything about the Cobra Kai’s attacking her or that she was the victim of the laser tag fight.
@@saphanix4193 if she was still traumatized, she shouldn’t have attacked them
@@fwfinessin4445 She was traumatized by Tory and none of them expected Tory to show up. When they went to fight they were originally just fighting Hawk and some other Cobra Kai’s, not Tory. Her appearance was a surprise to all of them.
Damn never taught of it this way
I do like sam as a character but Tory is the better character of the two.
Tory is the better fighter and Tory's working 2 or three jobs paying the bills taking care of her sick mother and little brother.
Plus Tory doesn't play the victim sure she let's her anger erupt. But who wouldn't at 17 going through what Tory is.
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Your analysis is smart, but you attack only Sam's character over traits that all teenagers exhibit. In fact, most adults use hypocrisy and double standards to their benefit. Teenage girls are especially vulnerable in their emotions. They need and seek attention and validation all the time. Teenage boys are inherently more closed off and "secure" in their ways. You don't have issues with Tory because she acts like a boy. She has all the emotional characteristics of a boy. That's why guys tend to prefer her over Sam, imo.
@Anti Sam Larusso The difference is that the boys use Sam as their hub. Everyone is connected to her. Miguel sought her out. So did Robby. So did Kyler. Just so happens that they are all enemies. No matter what choices Sam makes, shes comes off as the villain to someone. Tory has caused plenty of problems. If you want to blame Sam for the kiss, blame Miguel more. He knew she was drunk. She had told him to leave her alone several times. He didn't. That kiss was 100% perpetrated by Miguel. She's a single person that all sides of the rivalry have ties to. That's going to cause conflict without her even doing anything.
I have plenty of issues with Tory and have listed them since before Season 2 came out.
This isn´t the destruction of feminism, this is feminism in 2021, but i do get the idea for this and it´s a new perspective that i like.
IM CRYING THATS SO FUNNY 😭😭💀💀 16:04
I'm glad you like that!
danm i really love watching youre videos
Nice in depth analysis as always.
At least the Cobra Kai fandom can come together and hate Samantha
Sam the character is absolutely horrible I heard the actress that plays her is very nice but that character is awful she is like the biggest antagonist of the whole show
I actually appreciate the character for that reason. Obviously the actress plays the part very well. The thing I don’t like is how they are trying to have us just accept her as the “good girl” who just defends herself from “bullies”
Yeah dude. this whole thing is irrational "i'm angry at women" nonsense and projection... I was hoping to hear real reasons how Sam destroyed feminism and instead I got an insecure guy whining about girls instead :/
And I want you to listen to yourself and really see how you are mirroring feminists with your rhetoric right now.
This whole show thumbs its nose at woke/weak/victim culture...and I love it
This whole video is biased and I don't even like sam ,but I see that its clear you just don't like her character and cannot give props when they're do. She doesn't destroy feminism. Its kind of amusing that you flipped most of your points to make her character unlikable. Tory is very crazy and it showed when she went to attack the girl instead of checking her boyfriend who was trash for cheating on her. She also proved how crazy she was in season 3 and she constantly uses her mother being sick as an excuse to do reckless behavior. Then to add insult to injury you keep calling her crazy because she held her arm up and looked at her scar and the staircase to take her power back and not let it faze her. You just don't like her character at all which is fine, but to make bashing videos on her and flip everything she does that is positive into a negative is ridiculous.
I think Sam's character is meant so that the writers will be able to help her character growth. If she was perfect and desirable, it just wont be interesting and the only thing they can do is to make her some "villain", its all about the storyline. I used to dislike Johnny in Season 1, cuz I thought he was some "villan" like kreese but over the course of the series, he has easily became my top 5 characters'
Sam is still a better protagonist than She-Hulk
oh man I cannot wait Tori for to meet Terry Silver
It will be interesting to see what kind of a teacher Silver will be with someone he actually wants to see succeed. In KK3, the whole "Quick-Silver Method" he does with Daniel is more to deceive and hurt him, to leave him ripe to be picked apart by Mike Barnes.
However, I'm pretty sure Silver will NOT turn out to be Tory's father.
I'm maybe halfway through this video and one thing regarding your analysis of students thinking Sam was crazy. Everyone at school heard Tory tank the mic away from the person doing the announcements and say "I'm coming for you, B#*CH!" Having said that, I'm pretty sure it's a way smaller percentage of students who thought Sam was in the wrong. Your analysis is pretty impressive, but you're reaching in certain aspects
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see now im in bed so it just looks like im stretching