Cool video. These are all Richmond Elevators, (the label is in the both) with Dewhurst buttons. Also, it seems the second elevator is Machine Room Less Hydraulic, with the hydraulic pump being in a compact space, unlike the first one, which has a normal machine room. Usually when an elevator is placed in firefighter operation, whether it is manually placed or a smoke detector near the elevator is tripped, it goes into a mode called "Phase 1", where it will automatically go to the recall floor, no matter where it is. That is primary recall. There is also, "Secondary recall", where it will go to an alternate floor other than the recall floor. If there is a heat detector in the machine room, and if it is tripped, I believe that will "shunt" the elevator, thereby cutting power to it. You do not want to be in the elevator if that happened. Then there is "Phase 2", where you take control of the elevator by using the key. Usually in Phase 2, you have to press and hold to the button to open or close the door. This is just some information, knowing you probably would do firefighter operation on an elevator at some point, based on the job you have. I hope this information helps.
Thanks for the good information that whole roped hydraulic elevator is interesting to me any idea why they would go with that and not a normal hydraulic elevator?
@@SWFLElevators I don’t see why they just couldn’t go with a normal one now like the first one I showed why in the addition which is the newer one they couldn’t have just give it a proper machine room
Rope hydraulic elevators use hydraulics and a cable around a pulley. One end of the cable is anchored to the ground the other end is attached to the elevator car. And the hydraulic piston pushes on the cable lifting the elevator car
Richmond elevator dose not make inground hydraulic elevators. Now Richmond elevator offers Hole less hydraulic and roped hydraulic this is because Their newer hydraulic elevators “saves space and regenerates clean power“
12:51 That’s an MRL hydraulic elevator. The pump is located in the pit of the elevator shaft and that little door stores the power supply. MRL is short for Machine Room Less. This is actually the first MRL hydraulic elevator I’ve seen other than an Otis HydroFit or ThyssenKrupp Endura.
Interesting that there is a button and a keyswitch on the call station (whatever they are called) The only elevators I’ve ever seen that are locked off with a key just have a keyswitch (the college i went to between 2016 and 2018 had an elevator that was locked off, and there was just a keyswitch, no button, that elevator went between G, 1, and 2, G being the ground floor, and the G button was green, whereas the rest were blue, i believe the G button also stuck out from the panel a little, so if you were blind, you would be able to easily feel for the G button, i should point out that i live in a different country though) And where i live the most common type of elevator is the traction MRL, which seems to be almost non existent in North America With traction MRLs, the motor is mounted at the top of the elevator shaft, and as the name suggests, there is no machine room, instead, there is a logic cabinet, usually on the top floor next to the elevator doors
I’m not sure if it was the same case with the original elevator but the new elevator in the addition was originally just push buttons but of course kids wanted to use the elevator so key switches were added at the buttons were left it may have been the same situation in the original elevator where it was originally just buttons but key switches had to be added afterwards the only logical thing I can think of
Usually, most or all elevators require the capacity to be lower than what it can actually handle, so that "2500 lb" elevator might have been able to handle ~3000 lbs.
@@nics-systems-electric I live in a complex with 30 units! And It's my whole grid! It's every light in the house it flickering really faint and some you really see it! It's been on for 2 years(May 21st 2020 last outage) also It had 3-5 Power surges!
@@Random_Emergency_Light If it’s just your unit then it could be bad neutral connection but if it’s other people then it’s probably outside of your building especially if it started when the outage was
@@nics-systems-electric I live in townhouse and it's the whole grid I think, because on Jan 4th 2022 The whole complex went out for 5 seconds when my mom was on the phone with a neighbor and her power went off for 5 seconds and on Aug 30th it went out for 48 seconds! It started flickering after 1 year after been on! 2 years is a lot for a power grid to be on! (I think) (May 21st 2020 2 power grids went down, the downtown and the grid for my whole complex power and subdivision power)
The high school I go to doesnt lock off their elevator but they still have it so you ask a staff member before you use it and it had some really bad leveling problems that even caused it to break down one day and they did fix the issue but it now runs alot slower
You do end up seeing everything pretty well in the yearly testing but I could make a separate video of tours of things. I think most things have been shown in there at some point
I’m surprised it didn’t shut down cause some elevators completely shut down and you have to reset the power to it. It could be a 3000 pound capacity. You can check the pump cause it will tell you. Is this elevator considered a service elevator or a passenger elevator?
Well, if an elevator is roped hydraulic, in this case, the elevator will be hopeless no matter what. So there is 2 to 1 roping for the elevators, so one end of the cables will be connected to the bottom of the shaft somewhere, and the other end will be attached to the elevator cab itself somewhere, so on the top of the piston there is a pulley, and the piston with the pulley on top, will push up on the cables, causing the elevator to go up.
In terms of how fire service and fire suppression systems work in elevators respection, smoke detectors normally bring elevators down to a signed floor. If the smoke detector and the machine room on the bottom floor goes off the elevator comes down to the bottom floor and the fire hat starts flashing indicating the smoke detector and the machine room and this also is the same for the elevator shaft. If the smoke detector is in front of an elevator activate depending on where the elevator is it'll either go up or down from the floor it's at and go into fire service. If the heat detector on the machine room activates it's shuntrips and cuts all power to the elevator. By the way if you're wondering where the reservoir and pump for the second elevator are, they are in the shaft directly below the elevator. You can see the main electric valve that controls flow of hydraulic fluid at the bottom of the machine room and the pipe going to the reservoir
@@nics-systems-electric I'm in the same boat as you. IDK much about them either, other than they go up and down. 😅. People should ask the experts like: @TJELEVATORFAN or DIESEL DUCEY. THEY KNOW MORE THEN WE DO
Maybe I should we’ve only got six other schools that have elevators only one other school that is more than two floors that’s probably the only other one that’s at all interesting we’ve also got two schools being built one of those will be a two floor and one will be a three floor elevator which will be in September 2022 those might be interesting
yeah I’d like to I really don’t have enough knowledge on them but it would be cool to do have to figure out what actually sets them off I know pull stations do not affect them
In the elevator machine rooms, those are not monitor modules, they are actually relay or control modules. Those are to activate Phase 1 fire recall if a smoke detector or heat detector trips at the elevator machine room, elevator lobby, or at top or bottom of the shaft. If it is the 2nd or 3rd floor elevator lobby smoke detector, the FACP will use one of those control modules to tell the elevator to recall back to the main floor. Now if it is 1st floor elevator lobby, the FACP will use another module to recall to the 2nd or 3rd floor. Also, the FACP may also cause the Fire service symbol in the elevator to flash, to indicate the FACP has triggered fire service for that particular elevator. Now in the US, there is usually a heat detector in the machine room in addition to the smoke detector. If the heat detector activates, a relay module or control module will shunt trip the elevator, killing power to the elevator completely.
Well, if an elevator is Roped Hydraulic, in this case, the elevator will be holeless no matter what. So there is 2 to 1 roping for the elevators, so one end of the cables will be connected to the bottom of the shaft somewhere, and the other end will be attached to the elevator cab itself somewhere, so on the top of the piston there is a pully, and the piston with the pully on top, will push up on the cables, causing the elevator to go up. Edited because of a typo that was corrected later on.
The reason you didn’t see the hydraulic fluid tank in the second elevator machine room is because it is in the shaft at the bottom it’s what they call machine room less and that closet in the server room is just the controller closet.
I don’t get why they would’ve gone with something like that it doesn’t make sense to me why they would put that little tiny machine room inside the data room
@@nics-systems-electric I know it’s kinda weird but they do that a lot nowadays some even newer elevators have the controller inside the outer doorframe and it’s just a tiny circuit board with a couple relays. But in your case the controller was too big to do that so it’s in a closet.
@@kennedyfiresecurityandelev7771 interesting I can more so understand if it’s added after the fact but this was a brand new building so there’s no reason it couldn’t have been given a dedicated room kind of interesting
@nics-systems-electric yea personally idk why they could just of made the elevator room bigger when it was in construction to make it an inground one instead of having to cramp everything into 1 tight space
Cool video. These are all Richmond Elevators, (the label is in the both) with Dewhurst buttons. Also, it seems the second elevator is Machine Room Less Hydraulic, with the hydraulic pump being in a compact space, unlike the first one, which has a normal machine room.
Usually when an elevator is placed in firefighter operation, whether it is manually placed or a smoke detector near the elevator is tripped, it goes into a mode called "Phase 1", where it will automatically go to the recall floor, no matter where it is. That is primary recall. There is also, "Secondary recall", where it will go to an alternate floor other than the recall floor. If there is a heat detector in the machine room, and if it is tripped, I believe that will "shunt" the elevator, thereby cutting power to it. You do not want to be in the elevator if that happened. Then there is "Phase 2", where you take control of the elevator by using the key. Usually in Phase 2, you have to press and hold to the button to open or close the door.
This is just some information, knowing you probably would do firefighter operation on an elevator at some point, based on the job you have. I hope this information helps.
Thanks for the good information that whole roped hydraulic elevator is interesting to me any idea why they would go with that and not a normal hydraulic elevator?
@@nics-systems-electric Usually hydraulics come in Holeless or Inground. If it is roped, it might be holeless.
@@SWFLElevators I don’t see why they just couldn’t go with a normal one now like the first one I showed why in the addition which is the newer one they couldn’t have just give it a proper machine room
@@nics-systems-electric do a elevator tour at Los Angeles high school
@@nics-systems-electricwhat’s the name of this high school
Usually fire alarms are wired into the main controller.
Rope hydraulic elevators use hydraulics and a cable around a pulley. One end of the cable is anchored to the ground the other end is attached to the elevator car. And the hydraulic piston pushes on the cable lifting the elevator car
Thanks that’s interesting
These elevators also have innovation elevator electronic chimes within the lanterns
On both elevators, the lantern stays lit for the direction the car is going while it’s in motion. I find that quite rather interesting.
What High School Is This.
Pretty sure the cars are meant to operate at 125% capacity. That leaves you at 3000lbs on a 2400lb capacity lift.
So the 2500 is a recomended weight. It can go over a little bit but not much.
Oh well I am wanting to see the ventilation and pressurisation fans
I am working on it you’re gonna have to wait though until I can finish getting footage of them working
Richmond elevator dose not make inground hydraulic elevators. Now Richmond elevator offers Hole less hydraulic and roped hydraulic this is because Their newer hydraulic elevators “saves space and regenerates clean power“
The elevator to the school I go to has a keypad instead of a key switch
I do have elevator videos but all based on roblox games
Thank you for making this video!!!!
12:51 That’s an MRL hydraulic elevator. The pump is located in the pit of the elevator shaft and that little door stores the power supply. MRL is short for Machine Room Less. This is actually the first MRL hydraulic elevator I’ve seen other than an Otis HydroFit or ThyssenKrupp Endura.
It's a Richmond not generic
Ive never heard of a MRL hydro. As it is the tank takes the most space.
Is it okay if I ask how your so involved with your school? Like you do the test and have keys for everything
I worked with the school district electrical department for apprenticeship hours
Can you surth the elevator
No.
Unbranded elevator with innovation fixtures
Hi please see my friend QE Elevators
Could you do a video on the intercom?
I don’t have enough knowledge on the system to speak about it all I can tell you is it’s Telecor voice over IP
Why didn't y ou place the lift in the elevator and then all you guys take the stairs? Too lazy?
What are you talking about?
Ok i meant dowherst buttons
That Is A Cool Thing.
Richard Elevator must be a local distributor.
Dewhurst button!
Interesting that there is a button and a keyswitch on the call station (whatever they are called)
The only elevators I’ve ever seen that are locked off with a key just have a keyswitch (the college i went to between 2016 and 2018 had an elevator that was locked off, and there was just a keyswitch, no button, that elevator went between G, 1, and 2, G being the ground floor, and the G button was green, whereas the rest were blue, i believe the G button also stuck out from the panel a little, so if you were blind, you would be able to easily feel for the G button, i should point out that i live in a different country though)
And where i live the most common type of elevator is the traction MRL, which seems to be almost non existent in North America
With traction MRLs, the motor is mounted at the top of the elevator shaft, and as the name suggests, there is no machine room, instead, there is a logic cabinet, usually on the top floor next to the elevator doors
I’m not sure if it was the same case with the original elevator but the new elevator in the addition was originally just push buttons but of course kids wanted to use the elevator so key switches were added at the buttons were left it may have been the same situation in the original elevator where it was originally just buttons but key switches had to be added afterwards the only logical thing I can think of
A TK elevator at my school has it yet it was unlocked so me and a friend were able to film it.
Usually, most or all elevators require the capacity to be lower than what it can actually handle, so that "2500 lb" elevator might have been able to handle ~3000 lbs.
Makes sense
I think the second elevator is probably older
Original section 2015 elevator doesn't do anything in power outage and the addition elevator 2020 is the one that will open the doors
Keep up the good content!
What happened to Monday upload and what did you say of light flickering 24/7 in last upload comment? And do you have any tips on my videos?
I deleted that video I think I responded to your comment something like if it was just your house or other people on your road
@@nics-systems-electric I live in a complex with 30 units! And It's my whole grid! It's every light in the house it flickering really faint and some you really see it! It's been on for 2 years(May 21st 2020 last outage) also It had 3-5 Power surges!
@@Random_Emergency_Light If it’s just your unit then it could be bad neutral connection but if it’s other people then it’s probably outside of your building especially if it started when
the outage was
@@nics-systems-electric I live in townhouse and it's the whole grid I think, because on Jan 4th 2022 The whole complex went out for 5 seconds when my mom was on the phone with a neighbor and her power went off for 5 seconds and on Aug 30th it went out for 48 seconds! It started flickering after 1 year after been on! 2 years is a lot for a power grid to be on! (I think) (May 21st 2020 2 power grids went down, the downtown and the grid for my whole complex power and subdivision power)
The high school I go to doesnt lock off their elevator but they still have it so you ask a staff member before you use it and it had some really bad leveling problems that even caused it to break down one day and they did fix the issue but it now runs alot slower
Next time you’re there a video of the machine room itself.
I showed the machine room in the video
@@nics-systems-electric Know what I mean is like hear it run up and down
@@nics-systems-electric I know that, but you didn’t run it up and down by hearing it.
Really cool video keep it up, ever thought about a auditorium or gym tour,?
You do end up seeing everything pretty well in the yearly testing but I could make a separate video of tours of things. I think most things have been shown in there at some point
I’m surprised it didn’t shut down cause some elevators completely shut down and you have to reset the power to it. It could be a 3000 pound capacity. You can check the pump cause it will tell you. Is this elevator considered a service elevator or a passenger elevator?
Passengers and whatever else ends up in it all I know is the elevator car it says 2500lbs
@@nics-systems-electric Could be a faulty overweight sensor.
@@itzParty Maybe
Well, if an elevator is roped hydraulic, in this case, the elevator will be hopeless no matter what. So there is 2 to 1 roping for the elevators, so one end of the cables will be connected to the bottom of the shaft somewhere, and the other end will be attached to the elevator cab itself somewhere, so on the top of the piston there is a pulley, and the piston with the pulley on top, will push up on the cables, causing the elevator to go up.
My school has a Schindler Smart elevator.
thy usually have total perron capability. that's one clean custodian room
In terms of how fire service and fire suppression systems work in elevators respection, smoke detectors normally bring elevators down to a signed floor. If the smoke detector and the machine room on the bottom floor goes off the elevator comes down to the bottom floor and the fire hat starts flashing indicating the smoke detector and the machine room and this also is the same for the elevator shaft. If the smoke detector is in front of an elevator activate depending on where the elevator is it'll either go up or down from the floor it's at and go into fire service. If the heat detector on the machine room activates it's shuntrips and cuts all power to the elevator. By the way if you're wondering where the reservoir and pump for the second elevator are, they are in the shaft directly below the elevator. You can see the main electric valve that controls flow of hydraulic fluid at the bottom of the machine room and the pipe going to the reservoir
Good video as always.
You can hear the hydraulic pump
Wow. Very limited elevator knowledge
Tell me all about them then I want to know! you are the expert.
@@nics-systems-electric I'm in the same boat as you. IDK much about them either, other than they go up and down. 😅. People should ask the experts like: @TJELEVATORFAN or DIESEL DUCEY. THEY KNOW MORE THEN WE DO
@@bernardtheaubreycoxandcoolgameyeah I try to pick up as much information as I can when I’m around the elevator guys but there’s a lot to learn about
@@nics-systems-electric I hear ya
You should do this at other schools
Maybe I should we’ve only got six other schools that have elevators only one other school that is more than two floors that’s probably the only other one that’s at all interesting we’ve also got two schools being built one of those will be a two floor and one will be a three floor elevator which will be in September 2022 those might be interesting
NANI Dewhurst???
Did you cunge you youtube name?
Change?
yes he did
4:01 If i were you, I'd send the lift up/down by itself and use the stairs and meet it on the floor you sent it to. better safe than sorry
Oh well worst case scenarios it gets stuck I was kind of curious how far I could push it to see if it would do anything
Some elevators in the United States are required to be tested above the listed capacity. (ex. Tested with 2600lbs but listed as 2500lbs)
It really depends on the elevator. You seemed fine with the weight.
What kind of brand is that elevator
They say Richmond elevator but that might just be a distributor I see these same elevators all over the place
@@nics-systems-electricIs this in Metro Vancouver?
cool video this a otis elevator
Who is Richmond elevator because they have that all over the thing
@nics-systems-electric Richmond elevator is a british columbia brand this is not an otis its a Richmond elevator
It’s cool to see the colour code green up red down
Does these elevators require a key to call them or the key just functions as an "enable/disable" function for that call button?
It requires a key every time there’s no way to lock it in the enabled position
I am actually an elevator and fire alarm enthusiast. Both are my intrests
That was nice of you! Thank you!
Can You Do A Fire Service Demo On These Some Time?
I Would Love To See That!
yeah I’d like to I really don’t have enough knowledge on them but it would be cool to do have to figure out what actually sets them off I know pull stations do not affect them
@@nics-systems-electric Yes when fire alarms go off, the elevators are supposed to enter phase 1. If they don't there is an issue to them
In the elevator machine rooms, those are not monitor modules, they are actually relay or control modules. Those are to activate Phase 1 fire recall if a smoke detector or heat detector trips at the elevator machine room, elevator lobby, or at top or bottom of the shaft. If it is the 2nd or 3rd floor elevator lobby smoke detector, the FACP will use one of those control modules to tell the elevator to recall back to the main floor. Now if it is 1st floor elevator lobby, the FACP will use another module to recall to the 2nd or 3rd floor. Also, the FACP may also cause the Fire service symbol in the elevator to flash, to indicate the FACP has triggered fire service for that particular elevator. Now in the US, there is usually a heat detector in the machine room in addition to the smoke detector. If the heat detector activates, a relay module or control module will shunt trip the elevator, killing power to the elevator completely.
Yes my mistake I miss spoke
@@nics-systems-electric Honestly, now that I think about it. Those might actually be relay modules, not control modules
can you do more code 3 bells
I’m sure they’ll be some schools during summer fire alarm testing with code 3 bells
@@nics-systems-electric thank you Nic!
btw its thundering here and I have to go to school
I’m so happy that you made the video for us!
I Love Elevators.
Is that the elevator beeping in the power outage
No UPS
Well, if an elevator is Roped Hydraulic, in this case, the elevator will be holeless no matter what. So there is 2 to 1 roping for the elevators, so one end of the cables will be connected to the bottom of the shaft somewhere, and the other end will be attached to the elevator cab itself somewhere, so on the top of the piston there is a pully, and the piston with the pully on top, will push up on the cables, causing the elevator to go up.
Edited because of a typo that was corrected later on.
Cool video! Those elevator buttons are very common around Canada, i have seen them a ton
Dewhurst I think.
@@dnb5661 Dewhurst US91
The reason you didn’t see the hydraulic fluid tank in the second elevator machine room is because it is in the shaft at the bottom it’s what they call machine room less and that closet in the server room is just the controller closet.
I don’t get why they would’ve gone with something like that it doesn’t make sense to me why they would put that little tiny machine room inside the data room
@@nics-systems-electric I know it’s kinda weird but they do that a lot nowadays some even newer elevators have the controller inside the outer doorframe and it’s just a tiny circuit board with a couple relays. But in your case the controller was too big to do that so it’s in a closet.
@@kennedyfiresecurityandelev7771 interesting I can more so understand if it’s added after the fact but this was a brand new building so there’s no reason it couldn’t have been given a dedicated room kind of interesting
@nics-systems-electric yea personally idk why they could just of made the elevator room bigger when it was in construction to make it an inground one instead of having to cramp everything into 1 tight space
@@notifiersystemsensor3030rl machine room less is the new thing so that’s why they didn’t go with that.
Very nice elevator.
i really wish that this was my high school 😩 it’s so nice !!
Yea definitely nicer than my middle school