Body Language Analyst REACTS to Trisha Paytas/Hair by Jay/Ryland Adams Scandal | Faces Episode 40
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Trisha Paytas had a falling out of sorts with Shane Dawson and Ryland due to their support of Jeffree Star who is known for being cruel to those around him. Hair by Jay uploaded a video in which he said terrible things towards Trisha. Later, he released a half-hearted apology and received backlash. Ryland went live on his podcast and offered little concern for his "close friend" Trisha. I wanted to observe it through the lens of nonverbal communication in order to hopefully shed light on a messy conflict.
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"The science says he's insincere. My opinion says he's trash" LMAO
i almost spit my Red Bull out! I was not expecting that LMFAO
lmaoooo where did he say that? i must’ve missed it
@@711lila Around 46:36
BURRRRRNN 😆
So accurate as well 😂
i think ryland feels no true guilt cause on his mind he did not do anything against trisha, but fails to see that not doing anything is just as bad. is like trisha were pushed on a pool by jeffree and he stares her as she drowns. he did not push her, but is letting her drown at the same time by not doing anything, and trisha is yelling for help and he ignores her calling.
Exactly. Being a bystander when no one is helping is just as bad as committing the act.
as long as he has Shane's coat tails to ride on he doesn't care
@@deltaloraine Over... Words?
Lol! I just watched a video where he said he hated when people say “I’m human” and he just did in this. “I’m a human being”
Wow the last speech really hit me hard.. Please take care of yourself too dude, sometimes we feel bad you keep analyzing heavy stuff
people with adhd trying to remember what they just said is exactly like the rehersal speech pattern because we have to run it back like "ok what did I just say?" lol thanks for the vid. interesting.
Thank you so much for your opinion! I am glad the internet is finally taking people accountable for their toxic and disgusting actions!! These people should never act or say the things they said!! This also gives me hope for RUclips and the good of people out there! 👏👏👏👏👏👏
I really appreciate the honesty at the end ♡ I think you're a beautiful person
I’ve just came across ur video. I have shit going on in my life with certain people n ur advice at the end about at the time of being on ur deathbed hit me hard. It made me realize something. That having the metaphorical scissors in ur back pocket isn’t always a bad thing. (Which some have told me it is.) I made the right decision in cutting this person out of my life. Because I was struggling with that decision for about a year now. I’m happier without all their toxic self serving bullshit in my life. I don’t have any regrets now on my decision. So thank you.
I got a feeling that ryland and trisha is not good friends. Trisha may see him as a close friend but ryland didnt want to be friends with her but he has to because trisha befriended shane.
Sooo when this all happens, ryland didnt know what to do. He didnt want to upset shane and jeffree also maybe he thinks trisha is overreacting as usual.
Man..... hope you see this, but your whole speech about how you wish the best on people and you so deeply want to find the good people but keep on being disappointed about how many bad people you found? I can relate so so much. You're not alone.... Also thank you. Thank you for trying to push people to just sit down and be a pure, just simply human, to be better and do better ♥
And to the rest of you out there, if you're reading this: please do try. Try to improve. Try to be a better human, never stop trying, for yourself and for one another.
Ryland hates drama on the Internet so much that he has a podcast about drama on the Internet.
and started his career as a gossip mongler for buzzfeed
I'm done😂
That’s such a contradiction. It’s funny!
@@rhonj70 I think thats the point.
RIGHT??? Laughable. 🤡
this is so strange but like, the way he's talking about his contempt for bullying is very comforting to me, because I've never had an adult in my life who took bullying seriously, it's comforting to see someone actually understand how traumatising and disgusting bullying can be
Same here, I wasn’t super severely bullied but I’ve definitely had to deal with it over the years, and it’s very comforting watching someone express exactly the way I feel and not having an adult downplaying it or saying that’s just how things are.
I got bullied and now im scared to be around people.
@@teddieblue6723
I'm sorry you experienced traumatic events leading you to become fearful of people. How awful.
I can relate to being bullied as well.
I came to a place of safety from my being bullied by my parents. My help came with my personal relationship with God.
God is encouraging me to venture outside of myself to learn how to trust Him in the presence of people.
Read Jeremiah 29:11 if you have a Bible or you can buy or borrow one.
I am a work in progress in that respect. I don't want to remain distrustful of people. I want to be able to first trust people and then only pull away if their behavior towards me proves otherwise.
I hope you can get the help you feel is best for you so you can live your best life.
May peace find you neighbor. God bless you.
Bullying is definitely traumatising and can have severe consequences for how you approach relationships or handle conflicts later on in your life. It’s important that we acknowledge that.
@@bcfb2989 you may think you’re helping- but you can also be doing more harm by pushing religion on people when they didn’t ask for it. Please do not do this unsolicited. It can be extremely triggering for some people and a lot of people do not believe in the same things as you. You can send someone a nice sentiment without bringing religion into it. Please learn to do that. You can care about people without thinking you need a god to make you do that.
Kinda like telling Carrie she should be grateful she got invited to prom.
Girl, she was voted prom 👑 queen too now, c'mon?! Then they were nice enough to include her in that little skit show they did after but then she just flipped! Lol I'm totally kiddin!!!
@@robinmcinarnaysimoneau7802 damn Carrie... Stop being a sensitive 😾.. it was just a joke!!!! 😂😂😂
👏👏👏👏👌
Oh cmon we could all benefit from a pigs blood facial 😂
@@OurEnemyScalion Exactly! It’s great for one’s skin, and the girl got magical powers! Ungrateful😂
I bet those “calls” he kept getting were people cancelling their appointments
Lol it was H3 fans, his number was on his Instagram for a bit.
@@lowsodiumcannedtomatoes haha it was! Ethan and hila sent the fupa troopers/foot soldiers lol. (He didn’t literally but they did a live about it during the time jay was live
Or it was Jeffree calling him to tell him to stfu and it’s not working haha
Teaaaa
@@aly5891 Thanks for the correction, he doesn't need to be getting sued again.
My boy really said “Science says that hair by jay was insincere...my opinion says that he is trash” 😂😂😂😂 great analysis! And the part at the end about friendships was 🔥 🔥....very insightful and helpful!
This is 50mins and 59 secs of him being a pure savage but rightfully so.
This guy is not a scientist or anything of the sort. He’s a youtuber. A drama channel with a very specific gimmick.
@@miamiamia3244 I don't recall anyone claiming he is a scientist...
Scientist aren't the only people using science, just like chefs aren't the only people using stoves.
i agree, tshirt quote if i ever heard one lol
@@miamiamia3244 No shit dude. he expresses that at most nonverbal reading is about 70 percent true. No one is claiming he’s a scientist.
"If you're subscribed to him, get off his channel now" Logan went full SAVAGE, but yeah that apology video was cringe. Anyone can tell that he only said what he said because the video was viral. Good analysis as always, Logan!
I even don't know who this guy is , and who is Trisha is in first place 🤣. I just love the body language analysis.
i thought u were talking about logan paul LMAO
@@hottietopic7212 Same my dumb self had no idea his name was Logan even tho I’ve watching him for like three months haha 🤦♂️
@@geo6422 FRRR HE DOESNT LOOK LIKE A LOGAN
It’s well deserved savage because that guy acted beyond grotesque
Ryland's co-host Lizzie(?) gave Trisha a much better apology and Ryland shut her down.
He's so rude
It’s really sad, because Lizzie doesn’t know Trisha well apparently, yet she was more sincere with her apology in comparison to Ryland .. and Ryland has known her for a while .. yikes /:
I've always disliked Ryland tbh.
@@Abby-vk9pl Insane how someone who is a stranger to Trisha is the person to give her a sincere apology.
@@emeeeeyy Right? /:
"If somebody apologizes to you like this, get away from them. Get them out of your life. Immediately." damn I guess it's time to disown my mom
I don’t know how old you are or how serious this is, but I’m sending you hugs. Both of my parents apologized like this when I was young and still do. It’s hard to accept, but if your mom is abusive, just know that it is completely okay to cut her off if you are able to. Sometimes it’s easier to save yourself than to try to save the relationship. And again, so many hugs for you. Not sure how serious, but I definitely relate and I’m grateful things have gotten a little better lately
Same with me. Every time she “apologizes” about something it goes something like this: “I’m sorry BUT if you wouldn’t have done x I wouldn’t have had to do y.” I’m so over having a mom that shows absolutely no motherly love to her 6 kids. She vilifies some, and glorifies others based off of nothing but who makes her look bad and who makes her look good, in her ever so (not) humble opinion.
I know what you mean and all I can say is do what's best for YOU! 💖
Yeah same here. I been knowing this for a while tho 😔
Yeah, my mom just called me a terrible daughter for telling her not to touch my McDonald’s bag, and hasn’t directly apologized yet. I have no interest in deeply communicating with her after 23 years of toxicity. It’s hard to let go, but it’s harder to keep going through that pain.
Something I would really love to see is Logan doing a session on the chefs/owners on Kitchen Nightmares when they think their food is good etc, whether or not they actually believe and then their reactions when they find out it isn't solely Gordon ramsey who thinks that but the state of the kitchen etc is why
This would be great!
Yes omg!!
i would love this!!!
"Never did she hear me say..." doesn't mean he didn't say mean stuff he just didn't say it when she was around.
I thought the same thing when he said that.
Paije.. absolutely ...It's the same thing when someone says, " You can't prove it!" ugh
Excellent point!
Apparently she wasn’t wrong about James either 👀
I feel like Jay was projecting onto Trisha and that's why he ended up attacking her for being "unappreciative" of what Jeffree paid for during the trip. Trisha explained that she and Jay would get bullied a lot by Jeffree, such as telling Jay to pick up a french fry off the floor and eat it, or make him sit in the back of the car. But because Trisha actually had the self-respect to remove herself from that toxic situation, Jay probably felt like he had to justify staying with Jeffree. It was just to make himself feel better because he doesn't have the strength to do what she did.
It’s not Jay that Jeffree asked to pick up the French fry it was Jeffree’s makeup artist, Jay is the hairstylist
So true
100% agree with you
@@barbarahayes7441 hair by j didn’t “get played.” He’s an adult. If he didn’t care so much about money, he would have used his brain to realize that he shouldn’t flush his reputation down the toilet to defend a scum bag.
It was a year ago. Why’d he feel the need to attack her now.
I would definitely watch a video of him reading his own body language at how upset and over he was with these bullies
You guys crack me up
"Contempt, contempt, contempt..." 😂
Logan pleeeeeease do it
omggggcrtgdylinl im deceased
I had a friend who made fun of my sexuality and I instantly dropped her. She texted me an apology that feels a lot like this and I blocked her. So kids if someone treats you like this, dump them. Trust me, your life will be much better.
wdym made fun of ur sexuality?
I’m sorry you had to go through that, your sexuality is valid and I hope you have a better group of friends who support your sexuality being a queer person myself that is a terrifying and emotional thing to go through
@@freezyberries she called me a snowflake
@@katiewebb227 thank you so much!!! I do have great friends who accept me and I'm much happier now!!!
The thing is, she DID try to settle this in private. TO THEM. Yet they still ignored her and went by Jeffree so she brought it to public attention
And? That gives her an excuse becaaaaaause?
@@xdarkblade9336 because they would have continued to ignore her if she didn't bring it to the public's attention. It's easy to ignore someone when it's a 1 on 1 scenario, but when what little credibility you have left is at stake in the eyes of the public, you're pretty much forced to do something. She did the right thing here.
Did you miss that Jeffree tried multiple times to call & text her but she didn’t return his calls? She admitted this as well, so she made this drama public for a reason
@@HandbagDiva she has all the right in the world to ignore the people who bully her and IGNORE HER BEFORE when she wanted to make things right, but when they see she's going to do it public then Jeffree wants to call her 🙄
@@xdarkblade9336 ok Karen.
I feel like Trisha is a good showman, she is playing a role most of the time. But this feels more personal. She seems genuinely hurt by someone she did trust.
She change a lot after Jason but now that she is friends with Ethan/Hila and Engaged to Moses she is going back to how she was before the trauma of her relationships. I hope she stays happy with good supportive people.
i agree
You can tell that she's still really hurt and traumatized by what they did to her a year ago on that trip. Then her so called best friends totally left her out to dry. Really really sad
She’s changed a lot, she’s getting better help she’s mentioned and she’s also said she was doing a lot of things just to be a troll but thats not who she is anymore she isn’t doing that again. At this point she’s really just trying to be happy, her friendship with Ethan is definitely helping with that. Even back then though she’s never lied or been wrong with a call out. Every time she’s said something she doesn’t like about someone it’s been proven true. I just think it was hard for her audience to see the difference between a joke video and her coming to her fans to talk about issues but hopefully now that she’s not doing it people will stand by her.
Don’t you think there might be an air of “girl who cried wolf” with trish? She has different personas and even among her close friend group that might be hard for them to navigate, what’s true vs what’s being embellished etc.
I think it would be tough to be her friend.
The way he ever so genuinely and kindly says "If you're a big Hair by Jay fan, I don't mean to offend you - I do actually hope to offend Hair by Jay." Hahahaha, I love this.
That was my favorite part
it actually made me think “who the hell is a hair by jay fan?” lol
I grew up in a very toxic household (I’ll spare the details), but about a year ago, I was going through a rough patch and I was talking to a friend about it... a TRUE friend. And I started saying something about “that’s all I know. That’s how I grew up. That’s how I know how to deal with it.” And my friend stopped me and said something I’ll never forget. She said “You can’t blame your childhood trauma for the way you’re behaving 20 years later. At some point, you need to put the past to bed and overcome it.”
THAT is a true friend. And what she said was the brutal truth. Your toxic past does not serve as an excuse for your behavior indefinitely. I realized I was making excuses and needed to stop. So now, when I see other adults using their rough past as an excuse for their toxic behaviors, it’s more clear to me. It takes work but people CAN get better.
I really enjoyed the candid nature of this analysis. Keep up the good work!!
You've got a really great friend! Hope you're doing much better now
What if you're only acting "toxic" towards the people who abused you?
@@meepmorp99 then that's not being toxic really at most it's reactionary abuse (abusing those who abuse you not because you want to but because you feel like you have to) and most people won't blame you for that
Excellent first hand input. We are ALL a work in progress.
@@hellothere702 thanks for responding. Yes, sometimes I feel this way because I feel like people need a taste of their own medicine. I don't like feeling that way but controlling it is very difficult
Seems like the lesson is don't be friends with Jeffree Star
It’s amazing that these people haven’t learned that yet. The man is toxic and he will turn on them when it calls for it.
Maybe having lots of money change something in him, even his boyfriend leave him. Thats sad
That has always been the lesson, it’s just taken different people horrible things happening to them to learn it. Laura Lee, Nikita, Manny, James Charles, Tati, and now Shane, Ryland, and Trisha.
amen sister!
@@melyssalayrensia I don't think that money changes people. Like with power, I think it just shows people for who they really are.
crazy how a whole scandal started by jeffree, and he's seeing none of the backlash. AGAIN
I'm just now finding out about these people. Funny that I'm getting acquainted with it on a body language channel. My take on Jeffree is that he one cold, hard, very angry person. Whatever has happened with these people, Jeffree won't get caught up in the backlash because, from what I've seen, he genuinely doesn't care about anyone or anything except for himself and his money. He feels he is superior to all of these people.
He's good at that. I can't wait to see that man fall.
@@dancingfirefly7761 You hit that nail on the head! He is one selfish minded individual that could care less about anyone else or their feelings. He'll start ish then sit back and watch the drama of it. He's ish!
Yeah no this has nothing to do with Jeffree hairbyjay is the one in the wrong here.
@@jillg1622 it has everything to do with jeffree, he was the one bullying and tormenting Trish and Jay jumped in on it. Jay was just the dumba** and made a public video saying the same crap jeffree and him were saying on the trip. It wasn't just Jay saying those things that's the reason why she was pissed at Shane and Ryland for brushing her feelings to the side about Jeffree like the bullying didn't happen
"Oh I hate that we run a drama podcast and now I'm in drama" "I dont want to have drama on the internet" "I'm not justifying it"
lol bull crap Ryland
Lol he was fine with tweeting about Tati and calling her a 40 year old woman 😂😂😂
All fun and Game until you are the Drama 🙄
Why is he saying stuff like, "I thought we were on good terms, " and, "I never even leave my house," as if that explains or excuses his actions in the least? It's totally irrelevant, and it makes him sound stupid as well as evil.
I never leave my house is a lie and its a lie Shane used all the time. Every week when his sister uploads he's out with her.
Lol yeah it sounds like he’s trying to provide an alibi for her murder, so unnecessary
Trisha was saying her bodyguards had caught him at her place looking at her cars and taking pictures, so he must be trying to make an alibi for that 🤷♀️
@@dawna23 what lol I missed that part
@@pippadeedoodaah837 I think they were talking about Jay, not Ryland.
the only logan on youtube we truly appreciate
haha ✨
Just a comment on when you said Trisha “amplifying” her emotions by making a noise and holding her face: I do this when I want to stop myself from saying something I know I will regret or I’m trying to forcibly change my train of thought. It’s a way to stop yourself. It’s a technique that I’ve learned from therapy. It’s my RED LIGHT for mental health.
That’s so interesting
I do kinda the same thing
I have really bad social anxiety and when I need to calm myself I either cover my ears and/or eyes and make a noise to kinda block myself from what's going on so I can kind of force my brain to focus on what I'm trying to say or do.
Definitely. It’s known that she has BPD and she’s been going through therapy- as someone that relates as well I can see that she is really REALLY trying to hold back and not dissociate or go manic and is trying to center herself here and there. You can definitely see that she has gotten much better at dealing with things over time during the h3 podcast and it’s great to see Trisha taking care of herself.
Ever since Trish has been apart of H3, I see her in a different light ... wish her the best
What is that???
@@MiZzBee1 h3h3 podcast; look up frenemies
@@allisonmarie6404
Ok cool. Thanks!
Funny. Ever since she became a part of it I lost all my respect for h3. They do not mix. Ethan is selling out for cancel culture.
They come across as genuine and I love to see it. I remember them going through an arc where they went from promoting Joel Olsteen to disavowing him because of his homophobia. They really seem willing to learn and change, which is more than their controversial colleagues are willing to do.
Can you analyze my exes “apology” after betraying me? Lol
Leave him, move on, you’re welcome 😊
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 that was incredible hahaha
@@dawrightleo13 lol he’s my ex which would imply I already left him 😊
Me next 😂
@@dawrightleo13 she said EX dipshit. That means she already left them
“I don’t mean to offend you, if you’re a hair by jay fan. I DO mean to offend hair by Jay. “ Honestly, such a mood, and I totally get it!
Imagine Trisha’s most authentic time is when she finally feels comfortable outing Shane as a POS. 2021 is going to be interesting 🧐 People are changing y’all.
what does POS mean in this context? i know it can mean point of sale but that can’t be right :D
@@esfjjkfifhgi5283 It means "piece of shit" haha 😄
@@deltaloraine exactly 💯
@@esfjjkfifhgi5283 😂😂 it's okay, if you work in retail you get used to POS meaning point of sales. But sometimes the POS is a POS 🤣
She only outs people once they aren’t friends with her anymore otherwise she keeps silent. Which to me is fake.
*takes a breath*
Observer: "So science actually says that's you're a peice of shit."
Ryland saying “she wanted me to cut Jeffrey off” was just about to get into the point... then he brings up how she didn’t tell him before. Like he just skirted over the whole point of him cutting Jeffrey off or not
CristinaM, Ryland would never have cut Jeffree out for Trisha. One could see Ryland's adoration of Jeffree on the podcast he did with him. The root of that is all the money Shane has made be his association with Jeffree which has given Ryland the lavish lifestyle that he wants.
This is my favorite channel ever. You're not even a fan of Trisha but you stand against this crazy bullying, but her best friends can't stand agaisnt it.
Yeeees! I love him. This my fist vid of his and I instantly subbed
People who are on a public platform feel the need to jump on board and distance themselves as far as they can from whoever is being “cancelled”. I was sort of annoyed at Trisha for various reasons, but she’s a human who probably needs someone to listen and help. I was by no means a decent person when I was younger and if it weren’t for people forgiving me and being gracious I wouldn’t be here today.
Well they can’t be genuine friends if they can’t back her against bullying
@@Fiemus9 same
I had an ex who would blow up at me like Jay did towards Trisha, then apologized the same way. Logan is right, get them out of your life. I'm so relieved and I'm so grateful for the reinforcement as it was a recent breakup
Can mess with your head completely. Glad you got away from that person!
I too am glad to hear you got away! nobody deserves manipulation or toxicity in a relationship
Thank you!! Its hard to not feel badly about yourself after being told all the time! I am glad Trisha knows her worth, she has oddly helped me to know mine lol. ❤❤ thank yall for your support 😭
PROUD OF YOU, mamas! People far and wide are cheering you on. Do not lose yourself in any man, especially one that doesn’t deserve you ❤️
Good thing you got away from them! That’s such disgusting behavior
I find interesting that his evidence that he never would hurt her is the fact that he doesn’t leave his house. So like then if it weren’t a pandemic he WOULD hurt her? Listen to yourself bruh.
what you said in the last ten minutes resonates so deeply with me. i’ve been so disappointed with so many people on this website. i truly feel your sadness. it’s extremely discouraging and i find myself questioning the motives of nearly everyone i watch now
Right? I was duped so hard that I can't help but question everything at this point. Do any of these people have good intentions, or is everything they do just for their own personal gain? Am I supporting a bunch of terrible people, and if so, what does that make me? I can't be certain about anything anymore.
Couldn’t agree more.
I agree...It's very disappointing. I think RUclips has created, maybe exacerbated a narcissistic mentality. I think the lesson I've learned is not to put these people on a pedestal. I am ashamed to admit I was once a fan of shane and ryland, now I'm not a fan of anyone anymore.
I feel the same way
seems if u want to be a creator... NEVER MOVE TO LA.... it shines to light the ugly in ppl
Can you make a video about adhd/autism specific body language? I have friends who have those and I would really like to be able to interpret if they're uncomfortable/overstimulated easier since they sometimes struggle to communicate that verbally
this!!
I agree that would be a good video to get out there, as someone with pretty bad adhd, i think a lot of people would benefit from knowing those signs :p
I was just thinking about this, I'd be so curious to see how differently people like me (I have ASD) react and interact with others, and how I'd compare with others. I react VERY weirdly with certain emotions: I never cry when I'm sad, I laugh excessively when I'm angry, and my emotions jerk around a crap ton on very odd subjects. I'd wanna see if he knows some of the meanings of my uniquely odd forms of emotional reactions.
it probably varies much like other NT people. as an autistic i emote and talk with my hands a ton and really use as much of my nv as i can partially because i am also largely nonverbal and actually physically cannot control/open my jaw at times. (and yet somehow being the most over exaggerated nv in the world no one can understand the simple "i dont want to talk" taken to comical levels. lmao but autistics cant communicate at all im glad stereotypes are always right (not a dig at you)) but ive also known some other autistics who tend to keep stiffer language. they arent as loose and floppy. theres no real specific language to us we all speak our own ways. and part of it does lend to whether its a verbal or nonverbal autistic on the communication scale. i dont have adhd so i dont want to say about their experiences but from what i know from the little interaction ive had with that community that its a similar thing. everyones different. just learning how the specific person shows discomfort is probably the best approach since even allistics/NTs also can show that differently.
That is so sweet and thoughtful. As someone who suffers severely with ADHD, the people who understand my cues when I get overwhelmed and know how to help me, really really make a massive difference. Thank you for caring about them and wanting to help/understand in ways that work best for them!!
Also I hope he does cover this topic, because I would love to understand myself a bit better
The fact that Trisha was a CLIENT of him says a lot about this guy...
Exactly
A client of his 🤦♀️
I learned working in luxury fashion to never judge your customers, in front of them or behind them.
“The science says that he was insincere, my opinion says that he was trash”
Oof
Can we just appreciate how much healthier she seems after a few months of friendship with Ethan and Hila from H3? I mean, nobody's perfect people, but the difference between Trisha now and Trisha a few years ago is remarkable, trauma from that incident aside.
How the turns have tabled
I don't know why but eventhough Hair by Jay did all the sh1t talk, it was Ryland's response that annoyed me. His 'unaware and innocent angel' attitude rubs me the wrong way.
I’m pretty confident that the reason he’s shrugging and coming off so insecure when he’s talking about loving Trisha/putting her over the wig guy, is that Ryland knows that he’s (intentionally) missing the point by saying that.
Of course he puts Trish over a stranger. The question is, does he put Trish over Jeffry? He either doesn’t want to have to pick, or the answer is no. So he tries to avoid the ultimatum altogether by pretending he doesn’t get it.
The issue is the wig guy was a mouthpiece for what Jeffry said and did. Wig guy confirmed that the “issue” was real, and thus - Ryland/Shane either has to stand up for Trish against Jeff, or they have to condone what Jeff did. And that’s not so easy, when they want to have both on their side.
So Ryland pretends he doesn’t get it, dismisses it as “of course I don’t supposed what wig guy said”, and shows through body language that he knows damn well what he’s trying to get away with.
Your comment hit the nail on the head. He’s deliberately deflecting from the actual issue and hoping people won’t catch it.
I think its so amazing how our brain snitches on us through body language lol. Its kind of a beautiful thing to see play out.
I've previously never watched Trishas content, just isn't my vibe, but I watched her Frienamies podcast and she is surprisingly intelligent and really funny.
“He needs to up his game. He needs to be a better person.”
Summed up perfectly.
There's a misconception that adults cannot be bullies. When I talk about it with my peers they get confused, thinking of only high schoolers. I myself still struggle with trauma from bullying by a classmate in college.
Adults just knows how to do it without other people noticing. I had a similar thing with a person just being mean but in a real Regina George mean girl subtle way so it wasn't noticeable for other until I just burst and said everything to a co-worker (it was one of our bosses). A bunch of other people had problems aswell so he lost his position and is very petty now but just happy he isn't in a position of power anymore
@@caesar98 I know exactly what you mean. The bully I mentioned above is very charismatic, and was the favorite of our program's director. So even more hurtful when I was asking for help and no one believed me.
@@ginger_nspice for sure! People didn't really believe me until it created a domino effect and A LOT of people came forward with even worse things than I had been through. Maybe speak to a student counsel if that's possible? Write down when stuff happens then they can't really ignore it (been bullied most of my life and not been taken seriously until uni really) Hope things get better or that you at least have someone on your side
@@caesar98 Thanks for your kind words of support 💕💕 I don't attend that uni anymore, but a lot of us students left poor evaluations of the program director (she was an issue as well) and she was asked to retire after that. So small victory there! I'm glad you were able to speak up about your former boss.
@@ginger_nspice Thanks! Kindness brings more kindness is my motto ❤ That's great for future student! Btw I really recommend looking up CBT and "mind traps". My bullying have really messed with me and I thought I could handle it untill I realised I really couldn't. After CBT for a year (and anti-depp for 6 months) I'm a functioning adult that can stand up for myself again!
Can we just remind ourselves that Trisha told Shane and Ryland about this at the time of the event and throughout the last year? Not only that, but Ryland saying to keep it off the Internet is hilarious because she tried to keep it off of here but they weren't doing anything to help her - we are all in charge of our own mental health and I fully believe in that, but she's been having therapy and some support from them (actions not words) whilst she was going through this would have been a much better way to handle it. So actually by bringing it to the Internet, she finally found out what her best friend is really like.
Most of the time I will agree that things should be handled away from the Internet, but in this scenario Trisha tried and got no where and honestly making it public helped a lot of us out with seeing people's true colours (we have absolutely no right to pretend like we know everyone, so when I say she's letting us see, I'm talking about the fact that people were still buying merch or supporting someone publicly despite the mountain of evidential shit they've done, and many of these people are young and impressionable).
Side note I'm only at 28:35 right now so this may be covered when it gets to Trisha's video...
I know it has nothing to do with the topic but.. your hair is really cute on this picture!♡♡♡
@@milooky7769 thank you so much, that's so sweet of you!
I’m sorry but it’s bullshit for Shane and Ryland to have to take any shit for something someone else did, especially when at trishas own words for years Shane and Jeffree were the only peoooe who have actively stayed by her side publicly and privately through every scandal she’s gone through. Shane has been ridiculed and attacked over and over again for staying her friend and constantly keeping her in his life. And now that she turned on him people are mad that he ISNT standing up for her. It’s bullshit imo. I’ve had exhausting people like her in my life and I’d be sick of her drama too.
@@monimoo88 only thing is, no one is asking for them to be held accountable for Jeffree's actions, its the lack of their loyalty to someone they claimed to be best friends with when it was quite clearly a shitty thing to do. If my friend told me that friend no.2 had done half the shit Jeffree did on that trip, sure I might wait to see what friend no.2 said about it, but if they text my other friend to say sorry for everything that happened that would solidify that they're owning up to it and show me that what my friend had said they'd done was true.
As for Shane sticking up for Trisha and people telling him not to, that's because in those moments she did do wrong and no one could understand why he would stick up for her or keep associating himself with her. But the one time she did nothing wrong and was a victim of disgusting actions, he chose to stick by someone else responsible for those actions? Just seems weird and I understand why people have changed their minds... If he's going to continue associating with her then the least he could do is stick up for her when it's *actually* needed.
Don't get me wrong, some of the stuff she's come out with has made me seriously question why she still has a platform, but in a situation where she's been wronged by not only the person doing those things to her, but by her best friend who she was blindly loyal to, I can't ignore that she is the victim in this 🤷🏼♀️
@@karartistry true facts. You worded it perfectly.
just want to pop in to say as much as I think we both have some issues with Trish's behaviour as a whole, I really appreciate the care you take addressing her & her struggles as well as the genuine care for your audience, not wanting to play clips of someone being horrible to someone & taking care to handle potential triggers as carefully as possible. you're a good creator for that.
"I'm still a human being, I still have standards"
I think that may be the best, cleanest burn I've seen.
That hairdresser has destroyed his career in one sweep! Who in their right mind would work with him? I work for years as a freelancer and I will tell everyone that your reputation and skill are of equal importance! No matter how good you are, there are others as good, your reputation and personality will make the difference in the work you get!
He’ll still have clients. Romeo Lacoste a popular RUclipsr & tattoo artist supposedly ruined his career when he got called out for being a child predator, I say supposedly because tons of people still work with him even though his true colors have been shown to the world, so trust me the sad truth is that Jay will still have a career & clients, over time he’ll get back to being as popular as he was, it’s sad but true, celebrities (ever c & d list ones) tend to make comebacks & don’t have to deal with consequences for long because that’s what comes with the power & connections of being a celebrity, if people were able to get over Romeo Lacoste messing with literal children than they’ll very much get over & continue to work with Jay saying a few harsh words, it’s sad, but it’s the truth & if you just look at all the horrid shit that goes on in the Hollywood/celebrity world & how many of those horrible people who’ve done disgusting things still have careers you’ll see it’s a never ending cycle & that all these people do fine & continue to have careers as long as they choose to not walk away from the limelight.
@ADOGSWORLD - I disagree in this case. Not because you're wrong in general - Celebrities do get away with things no one else would- but because of the nature of what Jay did.
What he did was cruel and disgusting, but it was also a betrayal of client trust. Celebrities are all about image and Jay literally ripped apart Trisha's image.
Everything else aside, it was tantamount to posting an unflattering photo of an actress, who banks on being a sex symbol, sweaty and without makeup.THAT'S betrayal that they won't risk or forgive.
@@MsNoPixel i know it sound ridiculous but i feel like drama like this is seen more seriously by some influencers because it’s betrayal of friends and obviously both scenarios the people are shitty but the child predator i feel like a lot of people look over that because it’s not related or it doesn’t involve them
@@athanksgivingbaby570 your absolutely right. As a stylist and makeup artist you never betray clients trust and believe me the other celebrities will pay attention and not want to work with Jay because of his messy nature and they don't want him to talk shit about them publicly. So yes this will be very hard for hair by jay to keep celebrities as clients. Think about it, alot of people tell there hairstylist and makeup artists the best kept secrets and and never want them out in the world.
I'd still hire him. I couldn't give a fuck about Trisha it's none of my business.
Im cringing at everyone that thought Trisha was overreacting when even hes getting obviously irritated by all this.
It wasn’t an overreaction I don’t think it was because Shane was her closest friend in her life for twelve years and this was a huge betrayal. I was in a similar situation as her. I had been friends with someone for a decade and they lied to me on numerous occasions on something serious and once I found out I blew up like a volcano and was never her friend again. Small betrayals are bigger the closer you are with someone.
You look genuinely disheartened by all this drama
He probably wants to talk about something interesting but this is what everyone wants him to talk about this week and this drama is tiring af
@@Nikki-jn3ud And utterly pathetic. These are adults. There's always bullying and drama among them - and I have no idea who they are, only that they keep appearing for drama nonsense. Block them, have a cry, do things that make you happy and move on. Some people can't live without drama, stress and attention and these douchebags are the epitome of it. Why are the public so invested in all this bs??
@@teaspoonsofpeanutbutter6425 amen!
Because this is boring AF, Idk who these people are or what is going on and I care no tits to look into it.
It sounds like Jay’s “apology” was written by Jeffree cuz they’re both garbage at apologising
I feel like doing gypsy rose would be cool. Like her dr Phil interview, her hearing, her police interview and nick’s interview would all be really interesting to watch. Cuz the act it’s a hot topic rn and it’d be a cool vid
Jay’s apology just feels so unbelievably lazy. Like there was zero effort put forth to at least attempt to convince people that he’s sorry. Gross.
Ok I'm seeing 3 dislikes... I wonder who they could be!
Ryland, Shane and Jeffree 😂
Anyone, they could be absolutely anyone. If you’re insinuate Ryland, Shane, Jeffree or Jay even know this channel you’re giving them a lot more credit in the intelligence section than anyone ever should.
@@MsNoPixel dude, it's called humour. Chill a smidge
Welp it’s up to 51 now so it doesn’t work but I assume fans of Shane, Ryland, or Jeffree 🤷🏻♀️
Logan: 70-80% accurate at best
Me: Everything this man says is 100% true
100% facts, no cap
Totally agree
I love how genuinely concerned you are for people you've never met. You are such a good person.
Ryland has been always a gold digging monster.
He has never been sincere with anything and always chasing clout
I’m still baffled at why some people still supporting his channels. Lmao
Just another bunch of adult RUclips drama queens acting like immature teenagers.
Sums it up
christ, i can’t keep up hey
Yup
May I also suggest the Kelly Ann Conway situation? 🤔
Oooooo good one
My god. Can you do this with congress, please?
Bringing politics to RUclips is suicide. Also, I can predict what would be said.. they're ALL liar's.
You, not just 'you as a channel'. You are such a good person, thank you for this video 👏 (positivity turtle for you sir) 🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢
REPSQUAD BEST SQUAD 🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢
You know I always thought jeffrey was 60 but he is is 37. Anyway all these people are adults and they are acting like unruly children.
3..7...? Makeup has done him no favours then. Oh dear.
For real? Damn he's younger than I am but I really thought he's going towards 50.
Here's the thing: when you have a friend that is bullying or mistreating someone, especially someone being a dear friend of yours, as you pretend, if you are a decent person, a decent friend with a drop of loyalty, you do something about it. (Defend them, stand by them, ask your bully friend to do better, etc.)
That hurting someone, who TOLD your fiance (who were there btw... and did nothing) and you what happened to her, doesn't need to ask you to do the right thing (she's actually the bigger person, not asking you to, impressive). She shouldn't have to ask you to behave properly, to be a good and supportive friend. Putting the responsibility of your poor judgement and your cowardness on her, is disgusting :s
Logan has had to watch Chris Watts and he didn’t get this angry so you KNOW hair by Jay effed up! 👁👄👁
wow good observation lmao
@@Nikki-jn3ud I have learned so much about body language and speech from this channel 😂 I usually never pick up on things like this. 🙌
That's saying a lot. Hearing CW speak makes me want to vomit.
so he analyzed a murderers body language and didn’t like him??? the absolute bare minimum
@@diaryofamadblackfemcel2094 Huh?
How does a reading change for someone that has an anxiety disorder? When I watch your videos, I can’t help but think about you analyzing me. I have pretty severe anxiety, so I fidget a lot, I break eye contact, I move around, etc..
Would you think I’m lying just bc of those reasons, or is there a different way to read someone with those issues?
Btw, I’m obsessed with your content!🤍
I've wondered the same thing!
Well in reading anyone, you always have to establish a baseline of their usual body language and then base your reading off of any deviations from their baseline. This means that someone who naturally fidgets a lot or has difficulty maintaining eye contact in regular conversations would be read completely different to someone who is naturally very still and relaxed during conversations. They would also probably take into account the type of fidgeting and maybe which direction you tend to look when not maintaining eye contact etc.
I'm not a professional on this at all. This is just what I have gathered from watching a lot of these types of videos so I may be incorrect.
Just got to the part where he kind of addresses this at 31:20
girl truth be told it would all just be an educated guess/pseudo science and honestly this was one of his worst analysis's I think he was a little to sure of himself and also reading things that aren't typically read by body language alone and proclaim them basically as truths. Also the implying that Trish may be using drugs or mentally ill was SO Unnecessary and unfair because those two speculations could literally apply to any of them. Idk i just think he was off on this whole situation and with it having so many players it becomes to complex & sloppy oh and hypocritical and his professionalism/expertise starts slipping off.........ahhhh and also to preachy....sooooo yea if you like body language content maybe try Derek van sheik he does really good at breaking down his readings and very easy on the eyes to lol....
Also please don't get me wrong I like this guys content to, he just missed the mark with this one IMO......
Same I have bad general anxiety and I wonder that a lot.
Didn’t he actually go to her house twice but he wouldn’t harm her lmfao ok
“Tana had the worst apology video..”
hair by Jackass : hold my party city wigs..
I get the feeling that you've been hurt badly by someone you cared for, and I'm sorry if that was the case. More people could use a friend like you.
Those powerful words, your opinion on bullies and bullying in general, says a lot about your character and made me subscribe. Thank you for this video. Stay safe, sir! 😁💚
Welcome to the Idiotes family ❤️
Oh man, I felt the last few minutes of this. When someone is successful, I want them to be a good person. The alternative is knowing that the bad person has not only gotten away with being bad, but also has been rewarded for it. Yet again.
Trisha might be aggressive however a very smart little girl told me once:
"When adults are afraid they get angry easily:
Which makes sense , at least TP don't threatened anyone right ?
The fact that there’s people that haven’t figured out that if you’re around jeffree or Shane, you’re going to be in a massive scandal full of deceit and backstabbing revolved around control, status, and money.
Trisha is like "I REBUKE THEE"
Jeffrey is evil, idk how else to see it.
His 'apology' makes me even angrier with how he presented himself. The original live was gross. This just makes it so much more disgusting.
I loudly gasped when notification came through my husband asked what am so excited about 😂 it’s 8.30am in the UK best start to the day!
no iu
no iu
@@babyblue707. ok I guess?
Hair by Jay mentions he will never harm her because apparently he was scouting round her home and car. He threatened her of physical harm.
Trisha mentioned this in a podcast with H3. So he's trying to cover himself.
He also apparently released her phone number and address to the internet.
He's a horrible, horrible person.
So Trisha said she never liked ryland and Logan analyzed he was lying when he said he had love for Trisha. So there’s the possibility they both don’t/never liked each other 🤔
Thoroughly enjoyed this video. You summed up my opinion perfectly: I am not a fan of Trisha’s but I’m less a fan of the others in this situation. No one deserves to be treated that way.
trisha wasn't even the one who made this public tho, Jay attacked her and once your attacked online you have a right to respond to everything that's going on, especially when Shane and ryland tried to gaslight her by saying Trisha never told them what happened on the vegas trip(which is a lie)
*slight giggle* "I have to laugh, but its not happiness"
Thanks Logan for speaking up against bullying. I really appreciate what you said, and I’m glad you are on this platform.
Can you please analyze Claudia Conway's videos about abuse from her mother and then leaving the platform to "work on their relationship"? I already believe her abuse stories, but I want there to be no doubt for the stupid media who just craps all over her.
Keep in mind Claudia said that she would never willingly leave social media soooo... that would be a very interesting read.
A quick explanation of what happened:
Jeffrey publicly defended HairByJay before allegedly firing him. Jay, in his livestream, confirmed all of Trisha's allegations against Jeffrey (that all of the things he said in the livestream is stuff that Jeffrey has already said to Trisha).
Trisha and Shane have been friends for 10+ years, and she has been very publicly and aggressively defending Shane through all of his controversies. After his lack of defending her against Jeffrey and Jay, Trisha blocked both Shane and Ryland, and that's how they became publicly involved. To this day, none of them have defended her against Jeffrey, who they are still friends with online and offline.
honestly i could listen to you talk about drama all day
I have no idea if this is accurate or if it's just simply a pet peeve of mine but I feel if someone is talking about another individual and they are constantly addressing them by their full name, that's a red flag. Almost makes it seem less authentic.
I kept hearing Jay say "Trisha Paytas" instead of just "Trisha". But again, that may just be something that bothers me personally 😅
Being bullied as a child by both children and adults broke me as a person. My son has gone through the same, even by teachers. Having an HONEST support system and TRUE friends means everything to the broken.
Logan just out here reading Jay for filth in the most professional way possible
14:38 made me stop in my tracks 👀 I was in an emotionally abusive relationship and every apology was like this, basically saying "sorry that you made me act in this way" instead of taking responsibility - I agree kids, get away from anyone like this.
I like to imagine Jay’s angry eyebrows were a response to clown emojis in the chat.
She found real friends that support her in ethan, hila, and Moses. Good for her. She does deserve normalcy in her life to try and be better herself. She has always been around shifty people, dramatic people, and this would bring out the worst in her.
Come for the body language, stay for the solid life advice.