Awesome video!! Love the variety of angles you checked out. Great to see the River Line getting some much deserved attention, too!! Thanks for the subscription, I've subbed back! Have a great weekend!!
Thanks man, you too! I agree, we really need some more videos of this line! I might try to come out here sometime again within the next month or so and check out the Cove road crossing just south of the Pensauken station. Also, would you know the name of the freight line that crosses with the NJT Atlantic city line over the bridge into Pennsylvania (goo.gl/maps/4R5uwpe67m92) (the red dot is the track that the freight train in this video traveled on)
@@mainlineproductions513 Hi. I know this is a bit late but I know the answer to your question about the line that crosses the bridge into pennsylvania. Its the Delair branch and it splits off the Riverline at CP Divide slightly south of where you were. The bridge is the Delair Bridge and it goes into philly at Frankford Junction which has a neat freight yard crammed against the northeast corridor. Freights used to even go down the Atlantic City Line along the Pemberton Industrial Track which splits to the east at CP Divide. Look it up on Google Earth to see what I mean. Believe it or not the tracks the Riverline run on used to be owned by Conrail and I used to see freights pulled by Conrail GP38's and SW1001's going along them in the 90's and early 2000's. It was great. Also there are abandoned industrial tracks coming off the Pemberton Ind. track that you can find on Sherman Ave. right off River rd. The whole area in South Jersey used to get alot more freight service. Right under the Delair is what used to be Georgia Pacific and there was a spur that you can see in the pavement if you go under the bridge and look left. It hasn't had rail service since the late 80's or early 90's. I have a request if you ever see this. Please try to film the Conrail WPCA-11 that goes down the riverline at night and works around the Pennsauken industrial park along John Tipton Blvd and National Hwy. I have yet to see it in operation. I would be happy to see any freights on the Riverline as I used to live in Palmyra and miss the freights.
@@Zach_Bloomquist Cool! Thanks for the information! I've been planning to make another trip back to the line for about a year or so, but when I do, I gotta focus on the freight in Pennsauken. Maybe sometime in a couple years I could try and catch the nighttime freight train you mentioned.
@@mainlineproductions513 Sounds great man. Film any and all Conrail freight you catch because the economy in south jersey doesn't support as much freight as it once was. Plus Conrail likes 4 axle switchers like GP38-2s and GP40-2's which are getting harder to find anywhere. Out here I just have massive BNSF mixed manifest freights and double stacks. Heck today I was delayed by a freight switching out a cut of autoracks for 10 minutes and thats a normal occurrence. Thanks man. You earned a new sub.
For those of you not familiar, this line "The River Line" has a great deal of historical significance. When it was originally built in 1830, it was "The Camden Amboy Rail Road". The original engine, "The John Bull" is now in storage at the Smithsonian Institute in Washington, DC.
@@Nash1a Yes. Have you? Took it to a concert in Camden from Burlington. Slower than most commuter trains much of the way. Leaving the concert, it got stuck in traffic because it runs through the streets. Took almost an hour to inch through Camden. "Stupid" would be doing this again.
@@benzzc3626 Well, that's on you. I wouldn't take it to an event where thousands of people would be on the street. Understand these "trains" are little more than a pair of diesel busses welded together. "Light Rail" they call it. But their purpose is to serve the folks who are too poor to afford their own transport. The system was never intended to be profitable. This is why I objected to the previous comment about "the billion dollar system". This system was designed to get poor people to work or to other transportation hubs so they can earn a living rather than mug you. In that respect I believe it is helping. I have ridden on it but only a few times for the pleasure of it. I love trains and lived adjacent to the river line most of my life. You're right that the part in Camden is poorly designed for large events but I have been there to visit the aquarium and it was perfect. MOST of the system moves just like every other light rail system.
@@Nash1a Not sure where you're coming from, other than the fact you're a rail buff. You agree with me about the Camden portion but say using it to a large event was "on" me, as though taking it to avoid concert traffic was dumb. You say it "was never intended to be profitable" (a well-known and unavoidable fact with mass transit) but it has the worst fare-to-operating cost ratio in the nation (10% last I read), on top of the capital cost ($140,000+ per rider). It requires transfers to get to NYC or Philly. I'm not familiar with the schedule today, but I know for a long time it had just one connection in Trenton in the AM to get to Manhattan for a normal workday. The pols who pushed it admit it was supposed to be a "development"--not primarily transportation--project, yet the media long cited the same tavern over and over when touting the supposed economic impact. All I'm saying is for its cost, it should have been a different system to better serve more people.
I never really thought it was too bad, but I really liked watching videos when they used to have mechanical bells 8-10 years ago, but more so when some of their crossings used to have mechanical bells.
@@mainlineproductions513 I came over from London to see it a few days after it opened, and a couple of other times since, last time was in February 2010. Nice ride.
It's the only GP40 on NJT to have a GE bell and one of two GP40's to have a speed stripe on the side of the locomotive. I've also liked the way the horn sounded.
Just a piece of advice: Lay off the caffeine before a shoot. No offense. I used to shoot professionally a long time ago. I routinely saw how it affected my shooting. You are moving way too much. And I'm not talking about the shaky stuff. Everyone has to deal with that depending on their equipment and whether it has image stabilization or not. What I'm talking about the zoom-stop, zoom-stop, zoom-stop.
Awesome video!! Love the variety of angles you checked out. Great to see the River Line getting some much deserved attention, too!! Thanks for the subscription, I've subbed back! Have a great weekend!!
Thanks man, you too! I agree, we really need some more videos of this line! I might try to come out here sometime again within the next month or so and check out the Cove road crossing just south of the Pensauken station. Also, would you know the name of the freight line that crosses with the NJT Atlantic city line over the bridge into Pennsylvania (goo.gl/maps/4R5uwpe67m92) (the red dot is the track that the freight train in this video traveled on)
@@mainlineproductions513 Hi. I know this is a bit late but I know the answer to your question about the line that crosses the bridge into pennsylvania. Its the Delair branch and it splits off the Riverline at CP Divide slightly south of where you were. The bridge is the Delair Bridge and it goes into philly at Frankford Junction which has a neat freight yard crammed against the northeast corridor. Freights used to even go down the Atlantic City Line along the Pemberton Industrial Track which splits to the east at CP Divide. Look it up on Google Earth to see what I mean. Believe it or not the tracks the Riverline run on used to be owned by Conrail and I used to see freights pulled by Conrail GP38's and SW1001's going along them in the 90's and early 2000's. It was great. Also there are abandoned industrial tracks coming off the Pemberton Ind. track that you can find on Sherman Ave. right off River rd. The whole area in South Jersey used to get alot more freight service. Right under the Delair is what used to be Georgia Pacific and there was a spur that you can see in the pavement if you go under the bridge and look left. It hasn't had rail service since the late 80's or early 90's. I have a request if you ever see this. Please try to film the Conrail WPCA-11 that goes down the riverline at night and works around the Pennsauken industrial park along John Tipton Blvd and National Hwy. I have yet to see it in operation. I would be happy to see any freights on the Riverline as I used to live in Palmyra and miss the freights.
@@Zach_Bloomquist Cool! Thanks for the information! I've been planning to make another trip back to the line for about a year or so, but when I do, I gotta focus on the freight in Pennsauken. Maybe sometime in a couple years I could try and catch the nighttime freight train you mentioned.
@@mainlineproductions513 Sounds great man. Film any and all Conrail freight you catch because the economy in south jersey doesn't support as much freight as it once was. Plus Conrail likes 4 axle switchers like GP38-2s and GP40-2's which are getting harder to find anywhere. Out here I just have massive BNSF mixed manifest freights and double stacks. Heck today I was delayed by a freight switching out a cut of autoracks for 10 minutes and thats a normal occurrence. Thanks man. You earned a new sub.
For those of you not familiar, this line "The River Line" has a great deal of historical significance. When it was originally built in 1830, it was "The Camden Amboy Rail Road". The original engine, "The John Bull" is now in storage at the Smithsonian Institute in Washington, DC.
And it was probably about as fast as this billion-dollar turkey
@@benzzc3626 That's a stupid thing to say. Have you ever ridden on it?
@@Nash1a Yes. Have you? Took it to a concert in Camden from Burlington. Slower than most commuter trains much of the way. Leaving the concert, it got stuck in traffic because it runs through the streets. Took almost an hour to inch through Camden. "Stupid" would be doing this again.
@@benzzc3626 Well, that's on you. I wouldn't take it to an event where thousands of people would be on the street. Understand these "trains" are little more than a pair of diesel busses welded together. "Light Rail" they call it. But their purpose is to serve the folks who are too poor to afford their own transport. The system was never intended to be profitable. This is why I objected to the previous comment about "the billion dollar system". This system was designed to get poor people to work or to other transportation hubs so they can earn a living rather than mug you. In that respect I believe it is helping. I have ridden on it but only a few times for the pleasure of it. I love trains and lived adjacent to the river line most of my life. You're right that the part in Camden is poorly designed for large events but I have been there to visit the aquarium and it was perfect. MOST of the system moves just like every other light rail system.
@@Nash1a Not sure where you're coming from, other than the fact you're a rail buff. You agree with me about the Camden portion but say using it to a large event was "on" me, as though taking it to avoid concert traffic was dumb. You say it "was never intended to be profitable" (a well-known and unavoidable fact with mass transit) but it has the worst fare-to-operating cost ratio in the nation (10% last I read), on top of the capital cost ($140,000+ per rider). It requires transfers to get to NYC or Philly. I'm not familiar with the schedule today, but I know for a long time it had just one connection in Trenton in the AM to get to Manhattan for a normal workday. The pols who pushed it admit it was supposed to be a "development"--not primarily transportation--project, yet the media long cited the same tavern over and over when touting the supposed economic impact. All I'm saying is for its cost, it should have been a different system to better serve more people.
The lead locomotive on the frieght was NS 1006 an EMD SD70ACe
Amazing I just to take everyday when I was work in Amazon in florence n.j also in B&H photo media warehouse .
I'm a tram and I approve this video "ding ding"
Nice you got to see a rare version of the ice cream truck
I don’t think the E-Bells are suited for the Diesel LRV’s
I never really thought it was too bad, but I really liked watching videos when they used to have mechanical bells 8-10 years ago, but more so when some of their crossings used to have mechanical bells.
Required, though.
Awesome!!! Where is this by the way?
Thanks! This video was shot at the Pennsauken, Cinnaminson, and Florence stations on the NJT River line in southern New Jersey.
Main Line Productions oh ok.
Pennsauken Transit Center.
@@mainlineproductions513
I came over from London to see it a few days after it opened, and a couple of other times since, last time was in February 2010. Nice ride.
What is special about 4213
It's the only GP40 on NJT to have a GE bell and one of two GP40's to have a speed stripe on the side of the locomotive. I've also liked the way the horn sounded.
@@mainlineproductions513 The other NJT GP40 that has a speed stripe is 4205 right?
Yes
Just a piece of advice: Lay off the caffeine before a shoot. No offense. I used to shoot professionally a long time ago. I routinely saw how it affected my shooting. You are moving way too much. And I'm not talking about the shaky stuff. Everyone has to deal with that depending on their equipment and whether it has image stabilization or not. What I'm talking about the zoom-stop, zoom-stop, zoom-stop.
I know, I was only 14 when I shot this video in 2017.