Emerald Fennell interview on Saltburn's most controversial scenes with Barry Keoghan & Jacob Elordi
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- Опубликовано: 19 май 2024
- Emerald Fennell the Oscar winning writer and director of 'Promising Young Woman' joins my podcast 'Reign' to talk about with her new movie, 'Saltburn' starring Barry Keoghan as Oliver who skips off to Oxford University, and becomes obsessed with the jock on the block, Felix played by Jacob Elordi (who can blame him). You can also listen to the full interview on my podcast, Reign here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0.
Chapters & Topics:
0:00 Intro
0:30 Inside Emerald's mind
01:41 Barry Keoghan grave scene in Saltburn
03:16 Saltburn soundtrack
06:47 'Transgressive desire' in Saltburn
08:21 Shame
10:04 Jacob Elordi & Barry Keoghan bathtub scene
11:14 Obsession with popularity
12:35 Mental health
14:18 Oscar Win
15:11 Call The Midwife & Acting career
15:58 Becoming a director
17:22 Creating safe spaces
If you didn't know Emerald Fennell's story already, she has been on an JOURNEY to Oscar Winning greatness. After an acting career that saw her star in 'Call The Midwife', play Camilla in 'The Crown', and feature in the 'Barbie Movie' as Midge, Emerald turned her talents to writing and directing. Her first movie 'Promising Young Woman' about a survivor of SA, played by Carey Mulligan, who aims to take toxic men down one by one, earned her an Oscar for Best Original Screenplay and Emerald also became only the sixth woman to be nominated for Best Director at the Oscars too. What. A. Trailblazer.
Now Emerald is back with her second movie, 'Saltburn' which centres around a summer holiday from university where Barry's Oliver and Jacob's Felix start to unravel at Felix's family home, the Saltburn estate. What follows is a lot of racy comings and goings, some iconic camp one liners from Oliver’s mother, Elsbeth played by Rosamund Pike and her bff, Pamela played by Carey Mulligan and some very dark moments which will have your jaw on the floor. We talk about the movie's most controversial scenes in this episode.
On this episode of Reign Emerald and I cover a lot of ground including the Cheeky Girls - who Emerald is single handedly brining back on the 'Saltburn' soundtrack, how to master a camp one liner (the movie is full of them), the awkward things we do when we become obsessed with a romantic partner, and the desperate need many of us have to fit in.
I also really love what Emerald says about building a safe working environment on set as a female leader, after decades of Hollywood being known for unkindness and bullying. I think we need more leaders like Emerald, don’t you think?
Just like her movies, this chat has RANGE and if you love this episode, get in touch with me across all social media platforms on @joshsmithhosts. I always LOVE talking to you! Don't forget to come back next Tuesday for another episode of Reign and you can listen to the full interview with Emerald wherever you get your podcasts from RN. Love, Josh xx
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Thank you SO much for watching! If you want to hear more from Emerald make sure you check out the full interview on my podcast Reign, here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 where there is plenty more chat about 'Saltburn' and Emerald's career to date! Hope you enjoy and if you listen let me know what you think. Josh x
Unhinged genius is a great description . . . this film won't work for everyone, but if it does it's a rare, totally delicious cinematic treat. Bravo Emerald.
Can we quickly talk about the grave scene? Because oh my god, that was the definition of unhinged! If you want to listen to more from Emerald, you can listen to the full chat on the podcast here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 Hope you enjoy the podcast and thank you for watching. Josh
great comment. i loved this film. i took my daughter for her 20th birthday and she loved it just as much as i did. we didn't find it weird or unhinged. it was beautiful.
It won’t work for people without intellect
@@reignwithjoshsmith7520i disagree. i don’t see it as unhinged at all. perhaps upsetting tho!
If you have watched films and love films you will find the film beautiful.
Loved her talking about how she runs her movies. No big trailers, everyone changes on set, all the actors in one room. That's super rare, and encouraging to hear.
I loved that part too - she is an incredible leader! If you want more from Emerald you can listen to the full episode on my podcast, Reign here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 Hope you enjoy and let me know what you think, Josh!
I have watched maybe 15-20 interviews with Emerald Fennell now and this is my favourite by far. She is always eloquent, but here she is expansive and seems more at ease than she is elsewhere - and as a result, I think, we understand more of what she is like as an artist and as a person. Well done Josh for whatever alchemy you do to make this happen!
THANK YOU SO MUCH! I appreciate this love so much! If you want to hear more from the chat, check out the full interview on my podcast, Reign here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 and hope you enjoy the full interview! x
LOVE this interview. I’ve been dying to hear someone have the same thoughts I did about the film, and of course emerald herself shares those feelings. Some of the scenes that were “shocking”, I really found myself reflecting on why I felt that way. The bathtub scene with Oliver, I mean it’s very.. vivid, of course, and uncomfortable. But I think in relationships, haven’t most of us done some similar acts? Maybe we aren’t slurping our unrequited object of desire’s bath water, but the phrase “spitters are quitters” comes to mind, doesn’t it? Not to mention the perfect example of female gaze while Felix is in the bathtub. I’ve never seen the female gaze portrayed during any sort of sensual scene and the whole film being such an example of feminine desire ( of course I know the tension is between men, but I feel like this film is such an example of how women or feminine people just perceive the world), and in that way it’s so impactful and long lasting. Then taking the grave scene, OF COURSE no one should be doing that, it is wrong and horrific but in the scene, while Oliver is weeping, it does on so long. It forces to wonder what happens next, what Oliver will do, and if you’re like me one of my first thoughts was oh my god he’s going to do it with the grave. And then of course he does. And it’s disgusting but it forces you to reflect on why you thought that way, and does that mean you just had the same idea as Oliver? The character you’ve now determined you can’t ever relate to? And what does that mean for our own character. We may not act on these bad thoughts but we certainly aren’t honest with ourselves in that we DO have them. LOVE hearing her thoughts!!
Thank you for such an amazing thoughtful message! I loved reading this and your theories/ thoughts! Spitters are quitters was my highlight hhaha! If you want to hear more from Emerald, make sure you check out the full chat on the podcast here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 because there is much more from Emerald and Saltburn BTS bits over there and hope you enjoy! Josh
Exactly!! Hearing the many people say how "disturbing" this film was I was prepared for much worse but the bathtub scene, even the scene with Venetia, I was really not that shocked? Maybe it's less common than I thought but I've heard the phrase " red wings " ..
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I agree… I dont understand straight women being disgusted by the bathtub… I’m like… we’ve all swallowed and I’d say that’s worse than just licking up a watered down mix.
emerald fellnnell is a genius. i cannot stop thinking and talking about this movie, it is a movie of a lifetime for me personally. incredible conversation. incredible. !!!
So happy you you love it! Thank you for watching and if you want more from Emerald, make sure you check out the full chat on the podcast here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 - hope you enjoy!
"Do you feel more comfortable looking at naked women than naked men?" Yes i am, and i never thought about it before. She's amazing. I meed to rewatch saltburn
you're a great interviewer! you come across as very personable and Emerald is clearly having fun chatting with you, good job Josh
Aww thank you! So happy you enjoyed it! If you want to listen to the full interview check it out on my podcast Reign and there are loads of interviews to catch up on here too: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 Hope you enjoy and let me know what you think? Josh x
I loved this interview! Both Josh and Emerald were so fun to watch and listen to, and I truly admire Emerald for the work environment she had created and the incredible masterpiece she has made in Saltburn :)
So happy you loved it! I LOVED those bits about the work environment, too! If you also want more from the interview listen to the full chat on my podcast, Reign here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 and hope you enjoy! Josh
A lot of people have tried to over intellectualise the film, but i dont think any of it was meant to be intellectual, its meant to be unhinged, fantastical, villainous.
I think thats her style in general, its not necessarily rooted in reality, its somewhere inbetween. Its the same for promising young woman, thats the story of fantastic, fullfilling, revenge. As a woman watching it it was truly what i wish i could do but know i never could do. It satisfies a need. This film takes all that and applies it to a different story.
We do always say 'eat the rich' and Emerald applied that literally, multiple times here. Oliver from the start had his sights set on Felix and that obsession is explored to the fullest extent. Obsession with control, power, lust, hate, money, status etc. Oliver is a no limits character who does everything that humans shouldnt do.
I dont think every film needs to be political or make a statement that way, some can just be in their own vein and still be enjoyable.
However she did point out the exact message of this film in this interview.
It is that we are all not honest with each other about our wants. We put on this mask/ character for our personal gains. And she points this out to be toxic.
The movie, as she describes it, is meant to dive deep into what desire looks like and, showcase those “horrid” things that we want to turn away from.
As she puts it, she is interested in why people don’t like certain scenes or want to look away. Why?
She believes it’s because most of us think we are better than we actually are. She has numerously stated that she is not a good person, no one is a good person. And that’s what she wants to highlight. We all have good and bad, however, don’t want to acknowledge the bad in most cases.
In this interview, she responds with “yet” when the interviewer says he has not desired to drink someone’s bath water. Because as human nature, we are capable of awful things if they get us what we want.
And we often enact of these things, more often than we would like to admit, to get us what we want.
Either that could be for acceptance, money, power, for looks or to hide something. All these things were showcased through the characters in the film. 🎥 🎞️
I wasn't ready for the shock value of this film. Just when you thought it couldn't get any more shocking, it did, and the last scene was the icing on the cake and let's just say the next time I hear "murder on the dance floor," it won't be in the same way 😂 one of the best films I've seen in a while.
SO MANY UNFORGETTABLE SCENES and that is what a great movie is about right? If want to hear more from Emerald talking about the movie check out the full interview on my podcast, Reign here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0
Ahhhh this interview was everything ❤
Fabulous interview. Thank you for this!
THIS IS AN AMAZING INTERVIEW THANK YOU FOR THESE QUESTIONS SM
I love the energy between you two! Thank you for this incredible interview…I thoroughly enjoyed it💛✨
this is a superb interview! emerald is so interesting and passionate and your questions are very good
Thank you so much - that means a lot, truly! If you also want more from the interview listen to the full chat on my podcast, Reign here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 and hope you enjoy! And happy New year! x
This is such a great interview, thank you so much
Thank you so much! So happy you enjoyed it - if you want more from Emerald, you can check out the full interview on the podcast because there is much more from her on the podcast here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 and if you give it a listen, hope you love! Josh
an absolutely brilliant interview. I love the way she thinks in terms of storytelling and challenging social constructs with an awareness of allowing for the space to have uncomfortable conversations honestly.
Thank you so much! So happy you enjoyed it. If you want to listen to the full interview check it out on my podcast Reign and there are loads of interviews to catch up on here too: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 Hope you enjoy!
One of the most insightful interviews about this movie. Thank you!
That is so kind - thank you! If you want more from Emerald, make sure you check out the full chat on the podcast here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 - hope you enjoy!
I enjoyed every moment of this interview, Emerald is so captivating ❤
Wow! I was not expecting to enjoy an interview That much! Such a good conversation 😎😁🩵
This makes me so happy! Thank you! If you want to hear more make sure you check out the full chat on the podcast here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 and hope you enjoy it!
What a great interviewer! Matches Emerald’s intelligence and joy about the film, while letting her speak and answer the questions so thoroughly.
This is one of the best interviews with Josh and Emerald being she was so relaxed. Honestly describing a genius artistry by likening it to a bat cave with multiple eyes. I watched the movie and discussed with my grandson who is attending last year of film school. Our family is Irish/English origins, I don't believe it was an "eat the rich" subplot, more a "love/hate" mixture were death plays the largest role. "Promising young Woman" by Fennell could open more doors on that theory as I see her key character get revenge for her lover by sacrificing herself. twisted and disturbing showing the lengths people are capable of going, This movie could definitely make one paranoid if you live in a "saltburn" existence. after they are all dead Ollie dances naked through the house, stopping to snort a line and effectively adopting the extravagant BS that he coveted from the start.
Thank you - so pleased you enjoyed it! I love that Emerald makes us think about the depths of our minds and how far we would go and think about we are capable of. She's a genius! Aww thank you! So happy you enjoyed it! If you want to listen to the full interview check it out on my podcast Reign and there are loads of interviews to catch up on here too: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 Hope you enjoy and let me know what you think? Josh x
Great insight about desire/shame. When one is in recovery from SA, they say, "secrets keep you sick." Shine a light and let some air in.
Shine a light and let some air in is a wonderful New Years resolution/ outlook actually! Thank you for sharing. If you also more from the chat with Emerald check out the full interview on my podcast, Reign here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 and hope you enjoy it if you listen!
This movie was WILD. Emerald really swings for the fences!
She does not hold back! I already can't wait to see what she does next!!! If you want more from Emerald you can listen to the full episode on my podcast, Reign here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 Hope you enjoy and let me know what you think, Josh!
Well done Josh! Great rapport and questions. I thoroughly enjoyed your interview and it’s clear Emerald did too.
Fabulous interview! Josh, you asked questions I truly wanted answers to. This movie is so incredible. I cannot understand the rudeness from some commenters; I suppose they are just jealous as they will never have the charisma and intelligence to have such a thorough conversation about this piece of art.
That is so kind - thank you for the love! If you also want more from the interview listen to the full chat on my podcast, Reign here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 and hope you enjoy! Hope you have a wonderful holiday period and happy 2024!
This was an amazing interview! ❤ Loved this movie and can’t wait to see what’s next for Emerald.
Thank you for the love - so happy you loved it! If you want to hear more from Emerald make sure you check out the full chat on the podcast here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 and hope you enjoy!
SUCH an excellent interview.
Thank you so much for watching, and for your kind words, it really does mean a lot. If you want to hear more from the interview too you can listen to the full chat on the podcast here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 Hope you enjoy, Josh
Great interview questions & responses. Loved this conversation! Really well done.
Yay so happy you enjoyed and thank you for taking the time to share such a lovely comment! If you want to hear more from Emerald make sure you check out the full interview on the podcast here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 and hope you enjoy! Josh x
Such a good interview. Great questions and I enjoyed seeing you both just tear into it
Thank you so much! So happy you loved it! If you want more from Emerald you can listen to the full episode on my podcast, Reign here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 Hope you enjoy and let me know what you think, Josh!
What a lovely interview, really enjoy the interviewer and the questions and especially the “we are just going to say ‘director’” bit. Love what she says in regards to desire and what people might perceive as transgressive in the film. Can’t wait to see what she does next!
Thank you - I really appreciate it. I can't wait to see what she does next too! If you want to listen to the full interview check it out on my podcast Reign and there are loads of interviews to catch up on here too: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 Hope you enjoy!
You’re very welcome!
Thank you so much, will check out the pod at once 🖤
You’re very welcome!
Thank you so much, will check out the pod at once 🖤
You’re very welcome!
Thank you so much, will check out the pod at once :)
I see what she is saying, most of us will come see this movie and be like woooowww, this is shocking, I would never be like such and such character.
But this is exactly our nurture. Behind the scenes, we would NEVER want some of things we do to come to light.
Each character show-cases that.
We put on a “character” for others. Oliver had like 7,8 characters. Felix wanted to believe he was the norm, helper to everyone. But actually, he was part of the problem along with his posh family. Minimizing the beauty around him, thinking he can affect everyone as a savior-complex - and drop them when he gets tired of them.
We are also good, however we too far stifle down how much wrong we partake in rather in private or in public.
The mom was so two-faced. The dad wanted to be grandiose, and didn’t mind putting on a face when Felix died.
So so much of how we lead our lives, involves putting on a character/face, cherry picking which of our opinions will sound nice, or get us what we want but truly, we are all the same and crappy inside.
Great interview.
You got some very great takes from her..love this interview. Subscribed. Plus you're adorable.
That is so kind and that has made my day! Thank you ❤️
Great interview
Thank you so much! I loved that part too - she is an incredible leader! If you want more from Emerald you can listen to the full episode on my podcast, Reign here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 Hope you enjoy and let me know what you think, Josh!
My compliments to this facinating interview Josh, for a most captivating film.
The film is just my cup of tea, or should one say a gulp from the bathtub. 😉
With an air of Brideshead revisited, thrown into 2006 with the tension, thrill and twist that I just love. ... and the music, let's not forget about the music, so epic.
Thank you for the compliments! I also love your use of "gulp from the bathtub" saying - genius! If you want to listen to the full interview check it out on my podcast Reign and there are loads of interviews to catch up on here too: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0
Watched saltburn last night and have watched some interviews with her since. Such an amazing woman and director. I love her energy and authenticity. Her unapologeticness. And i love this film. I think the fact shes also an actress must be great for all the other actors on set. The best film ive seen in a while.
9:37 i sooo believe people are faking being shocked at the period scene because we have seen it before, and it is very integral to the story, the only thing that shocked me was the grave scene, only because i don't like graves so i wouldn't, but we have scene people piss on graves so this is just the other side of the coin
Love your dynamic together!
Thank you so much! Really appreciate it! Happy holiday and wishing you an amazing 2024! If you also want more from the interview listen to the full chat on my podcast, Reign here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 and hope you enjoy! Josh
Intelligent and honest. Thank you.
Great questions!!!
Love love, love this movie! Every single thing about it! I’ve watched it five times in five days I’m mesmerized ❤️
FIVE TIMES IN A DAY! You must feel like you live at Saltburn now! If you still want more Saltburn action, check out the full interview with Emerald on my podcast, Reign here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 there is plenty more chat over there!
Fantastic movie…loved it…Emerald is on the road to being a national treasure x
Couldn't agree more! If you want to hear more from Emerald make sure you check out the full interview on the podcast here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 and hope you enjoy!
I’m such a hugeeeeeee fan of her after these interviews. She’s so brilliant & beautiful!!!!
I LOVED her after meeting her - she's such a fascinating person isn't she!If you want to listen to the full interview with Emerald check it out on my podcast Reign and there are loads of interviews to catch up on here too: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 Hope you enjoy and let me know what you think? Josh x
Drinking someone's bathwater is a classic compliment. Not interested personally, but I have heard of it!😂
OH MY GOD IT'S ACTUALLY A COMPLIMENT?!?!
@@reignwithjoshsmith7520 I know! Imagine, someone so hot you would drink the water she/he uses to clean themselves. Could a person be THAT attractive? LOL
Well this is news to me! hahaha! @@jt7638
Here in Seville, Spain, we have a legend about a king who used to give to his guest the Water of the bath of His beloved wife to drink . Watching this movie i have truly understood …
Complimentary is not the word I would use if someone drank my bath water 😂
Fantastic questions!
Thank you - so happy you enjoyed! If you want more from Emerald check out the full interview on my podcast, Reign here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 and hope you enjoy the full interview and there are plenty more Saltburn topics tackled!
I loved this movie and re watched it a couple of times. Yes, some of the scenes could make your toes curl but I wouldn't change a thing! Watching Barry Keoghan dancing at the end of the movie was glorious. I haven't seen a gorgeous naked man move like that in ages.....absolutely lovely.
I am in awe of this woman
Saltburn is one wild ride 😂😂
So the ‘cheeky girls’ was the interviewers best moment!! Oh dear! That says a lot about him! As my mother would say “ he is a bit affected “ 😂
LOL what did your mother mean by affected? Thanks for the love either way 😂😉
I wasn't shocked but I was surprised it was on a film😂
I was shooketh the first time but less shook on the second watch! If you want to hear more from Emerald talking about Saltburn check out the full chat on the podcast here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 and hope you enjoy!
My gay friends and I have always said 'Oooo honey I'd drink his dirty bathwater', so seeing it literally brought to life was incredible. And that scene in the garden with the vampire kiss...utterly delicious! Truly hedonist. 🤩🤩
I haven't seen it yet but i appreciate that she's interested in people's opinions sbout the film, whatever they are
update: the film is a slay
You are in for A JOURNEY with this movie. Strap yourself in.
Loved this movie so much- I definitely am the weirdo that found it sexy. Listening to Emerald speak about it is amazing. I absolutely think ppl lie to themselves and accept a certain type of ugly behavior but not others because they’re a bit darker, or less talked about, or there’s more shame. This movie is such a cool point of view!
As an American lad growing up in London 80-83, I was VERY MUCH a part of the Brideshead Revisted generation. Went head over heels for the Aesthetic movement; now a scholar of Homer & Plato's Phaedros. Helped with Edward Perry Warren's A Defense of Uranian Love, which recasts paederastic lust in Dantescan terms.
Her accent is so cartoonishly British (not meant negatively at all!) but more like, this is what actresses who do posh roles try to sound like.
I love her voice! If you want to hear more from Emerald check out the full interview on the podcast here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0
She comes from a lot of money so she actually has the RP accent that many British actors aim for.
I agree, people are not fully honest about what they want.
You realize this when you step on the internet and see people’s behaviors and comments.
Behind accounts, people EASILY say things that is straight opposite of their selves in real lives. Reddit for example, a vile place when you find certain groups.
Incredible film
Have you seen 'Promising Young Woman' her first movie yet? Highly recommend if you haven't already!
She looks like the british Greta Gerwig 😄 Loved the movie and totally agree that sometimes we fake shock just because we're surrounded by other people. I watched the film alone and I know I felt nowhere near as shocked during those scenes as I would've if I'd watched it with other people
That’s exactly why it’s so fun to see it in the theater
I was screaming watching it in the cinema! And was so interesting to watch the reactions of others too!
She is - such a good comparison and interesting as Greta cast her in the Barbie movie! If you want to hear more from Emerald talking about Saltburn listen to the full interview check it out on my podcast Reign here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 Hope you enjoy! Josh
Incredible director! Outside of film making and the arts in general, management teams could take a leaf out of her book. She seems to create such a safe working environment which should be how every workplace is run. With mutual respect and team work!
I watched in the cinema and I loved it made me comfortable at times but somehow my sick mind really liked it 😂😂😂
she is fucking brilliant.
She is such a great talent! If you want to hear more from the Emerald, check out the full interview on my podcast, Reign here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 and hope you enjoy it if you do!
Loved this movie so much
ME TOO and so happy so many more people are now seeing it on Amazon Prime now! If you also want more from the interview listen to the full chat on my podcast, Reign here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 and hope you enjoy! Josh
Talented Mr Ripley was awesome!
She sounds like the Rosamund Pike character.
I didn't think of this before but she totally does! If you want to hear more from Emerald talking about Rosamund and more about Saltburn make sure you check out the full chat on the podcast here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 and hope you enjoy it! Josh
I have watched this interview repeatedly, and it has added so much value in my experience of this movie. love.
I LOVE THIS COMMENT SO MUCH! THANK YOU! That's all I could have hoped for really, so I really appreciate this! If you do want to hear more from Emerald, there is more on the podcast too, you can check out the full interview here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0. hope you enjoy! Josh!
There's more of it??!!! Best news I've heard today!!! 🥳@@reignwithjoshsmith7520
She's hilarious
Honestly LOVED talking to her, absolutely hilarious and a genius! Have you seen Saltburn yet? Strap yourself in!
I'm 1 minute in and am already laughing at her description of her brain 😂
This film was perverted and strange.
I loved it and 10/10 recommend ❤❤😂
It's interesting watching a woman and a gay man talk, it's such a different dynamic because they're on a similar wavelength and they both 'get' certain things about the film.
At first I thought he was going to say "Well Emerald...WTF!"
TBH WTF was what I was about to say!!!
The whole 8:10 rant is so right
ISN'T SHE SO RIGHT!!!! Let's get these things out in the open and change the narrative around shame! If you also want more from the interview listen to the full chat on my podcast, Reign here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 and hope you enjoy! Josh
@@reignwithjoshsmith7520ahhh you replied! I think you are an excellent interviewer and I’ve already listened to the entire thing :)
I didn’t notice the cheeky girls
She’s a genius
Patricia Highsmith is the original, see Ripley and her short stories,.astonishing.
Was Oliver ever obsessed with Felix? Was the real obsession from the onset at Oxford obtaining Saltburn for himself? I can’t decide if it’s a, b, or a combination of both.
I definitely think it's a combination of both
this movie already existed, she carved it out the marble
God I love her
ME TOO. If you want more from our mutual love, Emerald check out the full interview on my podcast, Reign here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 and hope you enjoy it!
Some comments about Saltburn: Oliver "won" in the end but is he happy? Snorting cocaine and dancing around this huge mansion on his own, gloating in his own ability to obtain Saltburn for himself and holding the dead rich family as trophies.
The psychology of Oliver does not ring true (thankfully). The obsessiveness and "love/hate" dynamic of Oliver is more true of the borderline personality and the borderline personality is usually too disorganised to pull off a coup like this.
Oliver's psychology is more that of the dark triad, in which case he would not be that interested in sex and love other than to use them as tools to manipulate others. The grave and bath scenes do not make sense in this respect.
So then we have to wonder as to the intention of the film maker, if the intention isn't to warn us of such personalities in a real way. Perhaps the film is superficial in that it is a thriller - simple entertainment. There is something superficial about the family's reactions to the deaths too, in that they have some comedy to them. The film is clever in the way it references other texts, but again this is a postmodern superficiality.
I think she articulates an aristocratic fear that the middle or working classes will "steal" their wealth. Although the middle class fellow "wins" we are by no means supposed to enjoy his victory. On the whole no one comes out of this story very well.
Thank you so much for sharing all of these incredible thoughts... the fact is he isn't happy is he? If you want to hear more from the chat with Emerald check out the full interview on my podcast, Reign here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 as she chats so much more about the movie and it's themes over there! Hope you enjoy!
How did Oliver know to play kicked puppy to ultimately get his way … maybe his first friend told him more ….
The part where Emerald discusses folks who “have a line that they won’t cross” and how it is “so interesting” is a bit baffling and perplexing to me. Allow me an explanation.
I started watching the movie as I loved PYW. The storytelling and subject line were incredible. With Saltburn, I paused about 30 minutes in as I’d started it too late and was nodding.
But, boy, that algorithm really works! This morning there were tons of SB RUclips recommendations awaiting me. It was from this that I learned about what commentators refer to as “unhinged behavior.” Things like the bath tub sceneS, the grave scene, the face blood scene, etc.
For me, it is so disturbing. It reminds me of “The Talented Mr. Ripley” in theme and that movie gave me nightmares for weeks. But that’s just themes on desire, deceit, decoys and death.
Other scenes are making it hard for me to go back to the movie. In this interview, Fennell says we’re not being honest because “people have transgressive thoughts all the time” … and “shouldn’t we talk about that?”
I’m sure she doesn’t mean to sound reductionist, but some people have trauma in their lives that make watching those types of scenes very difficult. It was difficult to watch PYW because of the nature of it. And, even though Cassie dies at the end, she also triumphs. And I like her as a protagonist even though she is obviously troubled. I get her trauma.
But Oliver is scary to me. These things that he does out of obsession are scary to me. Anyone who has been stalked, sexually assaulted or had someone obsessed with them to the point of violence probably don’t want to talk about transgressive thoughts because they already know far too well that people think them and act on them. And their whole world is altered because of that.
I know she wants us to root for Oliver at the end. I don’t think I’ll be able to even if I go back to watching. I don’t like predators who kill - even if those being murdered are horrible people. The way he goes about all of it is so disturbing.
Anyhow, I feel bad because so many are raving about this flick. And I keep reading articles and watching interviews hoping I can watch the rest without having nightmares or some other trauma response. But I’m not there yet.
I know EF won’t read this, but there’s the “so interesting” (as she called it) reason some just won’t go there.
I’m glad I’m not the only one!
Oliver is not a sympathetic character and the family he kills are not bad people! They are rich and out of touch and rude but I had an easier time relating to them than Oliver!
Olli is a liar and a predator from the very start of the film.
I don’t even like the argument people make about how it’s the lower class eating the rich. Ollie was never lower class, he had a normal childhood in a loving home that would be considered upper class to the average person.
He cloaked himself in made up trauma to try to endear himself to this family and it honestly wasn’t that fun to watch!
If the murder was an intricate well thought out plan it might have been interesting but it was ultimately boring and the payoff was years down the road after multiple characters have died or just disappeared from the movie 🤷♀️
The most shocking scene was the grave scene because it felt like I was watching a r*pe scene. It was beyond “shameful desires” or “transgressive acts” and felt more like desecration.
I don’t know. It wasn’t a smart film in my opinion. I laughed at the absurdity but I was ultimately really disappointed in its lack of intricacies.
why do i feel like she studied history of art lol
Great film maker and very poshy poshposh boudoir boudoir!! 😂😂😂
Theme of movie is so important: Don't trust gay men, especially YOUNG ones. What a great lesson to all of us.
WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT? ARE YOU OKAY?!?!? 😂
Meanwhile history proves over & over that it is the white heterosexual male who has done the most damage
Pamela fan club
Saltburn is cheap knockoff of the superior brilliant 'The Talented Mr Ripley'. Same plot, same protagonist, same characters & themes. But Emerald admits in interviews when brought up how similar both movies are. She says there was no inspiration from 'The Talented Mr Ripley' even though she is a fan of the author. Total BS. Saltburn is dollarstore version, using shockvalue like bathtub, period blood scene and graveyard scene to get people talking about movie. Hiding the fact that writing and acting are subpar compared to 'The Talented Mr Ripley'. Just my opinion
Every thing is a version in some way of some other artistic achievement hence the saying “steal like an artist “. You’ll get there, no need to be envious or jealous, if you put the work in of course
I’m so traumatized from this movie. I did NOT need to see all that.
Grow up.
He’s laaaame interviewer!
Thank YOU I love constructive criticism.
Saltburn is such a cheesy, tryhard attempt at a film
She really wants us to know she's not a "nice" person.
She's mentioned it in every interview for the movie.
We get it, you're sooo dark and Gothic being nice is passe', innit?
the point isn’t that she’s mean or bad she just means she’s a human aware of her shadowy traits
cringe
God that interviewer is like one of the fake characters in the film. What a sycophant.
LOL babes I am like this morning, noon and night and seem as this is my channel, I only have people in I like. So please do move on if you don’t like it…
Morning, noon and night? There you go; you can’t tell the difference anymore.
@@thecookingegg babes move on it’s been THREE DAYS
I actually really disagree… Never seen his stuff before but this interview felt so natural and funny like a girly sleepover… I really enjoyed watching and will def watch more 👍
I can accept that she does not want to be nice; unfortunately, for us, she imagines she is an interesting person.
I think her brain and her mind is beyond interesting no?!?
if you don’t find her interesting why did you choose to watch a 20 minute interview with her?
I wanted to find out if she was interesting. Question answered. The British used to do class tensions with some subtlety; now they take their lessons from vulgar America (Get Out) and brutal South Korea (Parasite).@@kaseygrace1396
Just say you can’t handle it darling, there are a very large number of people who absolutely find her fascinating!!
A very large number of people are fascinated by a glittering display of upper-class decadence spiced with a dash of homoerotic tension. @@Taravat76
Absolutely loved this movie! Loved this Interview! Everyone thought I was mad not being triggered by the “vampire” scene or the “bathtub” scene lol. I understood it. Maybe I’m just effed up in the head. 🫣😂
Yay thank you! I meannnn who wouldn't drink Jacob Elordi's bath water? LET'S BE HONEST! If you also want to hear more from the chat, check out the full interview on my podcast, Reign here: hyperurl.co/i4yxt0 and hope you enjoy the full interview! x
Transgressive strange things we want that we don’t talk about that becomes shame and can lead to violence, betrayals, and makes us dishonest…..that line is of interest, that desire to obtain the thing that we want…how far will we go. FABULOUS!!! 🫦😳🖤