Merry Christmas Mr. Winger, Mrs. Winger and family; and to Mikes incredible team; and to all of my precious brothers and sisters in our Lord Jesus Christ!
Mike, your consistency is incredible. This study is amazing. I pray you continue to live a God-fearing life and continue to encourage and strengthen all those who watch. I certainly need it. Thank you!
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
Amen! I am so blessed right now. Thank you Mike for reiterating the essence and significance of our Lord and God Jesus the Christ. It' s such an awesome and overwhelming realization that He is The Great I AM. Beautiful exposition! Have a blessed Christmas.
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
@@jordanmckissick6362no, not if they don’t believe Jesus is God. Which the vast majority of them (if not all) don’t believe and are therefore not saved
@NicoSmedley dude God will NOT judge them based on what their 3 pound brains comprehend. Your asleep man. Listen I will see JW a lot of them in paradise. 100%. You acting like all you Christian’s as I am that we have it all figured out. Dude no one has it figured out. It’s okay to be wrong. What saved them is Gods grace. It’s a gift. They accept the blood of Jesus and him as savior yes they do. They accept the Jesus of Joseph, son of God who did miracles. They understand and accept the sacrifice. Maybe they don’t understand or reject the idea of Jesus being God so what? News flash they aren’t evil dawg. They really try and I will continue to look at them as my brothers and sisters.
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
@@johntandy8918 Really? From what we see you’ve written to Mike on here it looks like you’re projecting 🤷♂️ I think the problem is you’re low level reading comprehension Try some advanced level reading books. Go buy a Hitchens book for goodness sake. 😫 🫵👍
"Jesus is Michael the arch angel!" Michael: slowly turns to Jesus with a look of confusion..."my Lord, did you uh...tell them to say that?" Jesus: "ha...no..." Michael: shrugs... Jesus and Michael laugh together 😂
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
Thanks Mike! You won't believe it but, I had a JW round the house a few hrs ago. After wrestling (wrestling as in metaphorically) for 20mins or so, he left. I was driven to dig up more scripture! I typed Jesus is God into the search engine... Guess who was doing a live stream on the subject I wanted help with? Thanks buddy! God bless!
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
I like to use John 8:58-59 whenever JWs approach me…Jesus is saying He is the I Am,..and the Jews tried to stone him for blasphemy because they understood exactly what he was claiming
@@lainegordon5831 Just saying I AM does not make you GOD. Also the Septuagint text says I AM THE BEING, which is different from " I am". Also you believed those Jews who wanted to kill Jesus and thought that Jesus sinned by breaking the Sabbath and whom Jesus said that they were from their father the devil?
Thank you for your ongoing wonderful work! Your video about how to get saved made me realise that I - even though I thought myself a christian - didn't know the first thing about God or His plan for us. I just never knew there were real answers to these important questions and never bothered digging. I was a fool and I probably very much still am. But you helped me seek the Lord and He saved me. Thank you, Mike!
A couple of days ago there where two JW's at our door. My husband talked to them. He didn't yet have a biblebased answer on why Michael isn't Jesus, so in the last few days he wanted to search for an answer. The timing of this video is awesome haha 😊
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
Such great teaching as always! I'm so glad we got another entry to the Hebrews series right before Christmas. Merry Christmas to Mike, your family, and staff. God bless you all for this wonderful ministry!
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
@Mr.DC.1914.1 First of all, your argument is disingenuous. The Hebrew word "sar" can have many different meanings, but it never means "angel". It can mean prince, or captain, commander, leader, ruler, official, governor, chief. That makes it pretty clear what it actually means, and it definitely doesn't mean angel. It's a broad title of authority. Jesus is called the "Sar" (Prince) of Peace. Michael is called "has-sar" (the prince) "haggadol" (great), "the great prince". You could make your argument from this passage for the Spurgeon view of Michael, without falsely applying meaning to words that does not actually apply. I think the case that Mike made is much stronger, but at least try to make your case with honesty and integrity.
@@KFish-bw1om so you think ANOTHER angel is RESPONSIBLE for SAVING PEOPLE AND RAISING THEM up from the Dead and that this Angel IS GREATER than Jesus AS SAR. Dan 12. really?
@@KFish-bw1om Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
I learned so much from this study and very glad that you are taking your time to emphasize the weightiness of the scriptures that we are studying. Looking forward to rewatching, taking more notes, and learning more as we advance further
Really good series, Mike. I appreciate your love and respect for Jesus and the way you handle God's Word. I have been a sub for several months now (from my old channel), and you have become my favorite teacher. I have also watched the videos on your other channel and will be launching this current channel "Sitting with Jesus" in the next few weeks, Lord willing! I'm nearly 70 and retired and have had the pleasure of knowing Jesus for nearly 50 years now. The encouragement you have shared has been important in helping me in my decision to "go for it" and start sharing my own experiences with our Lord. God Bless You!
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
Guys please pray for me and my relationship. My wife of three years i had met when she was a JW and has now echo chambered herself with her JW family once again and is now ignoring me and acting like she cant stand be with me, for the favor of her family. She was confirmed out of it, yet still seeks their favor above mine, without any evangelistic intent to try and speak with her family, let alone defend me. Please pray she gets truly freed from that mental prison. She needs a little nudge, but wont listen to me. Please help brothers and sisters this hurts me. I apologize for such personal information, im just desperate for her family to get out too.
I would like to see your view on how the SDA church views this because I like that u are going verse by verse, and I've seen our church go through it verse by verse - and I'd like to see a discussion on this so that we can all think biblically and come to deeper understandings of the word of God
@peterhesedzaoTheir doctrine that the founders set may contradict, but some churches actually go through the scriptures and teach. There are followers in Christ in SDA churches, like every other one. My one gripe is their reliance on Ellen G White to interpret scripture at some points.
My understanding is that what SDA teaches is, in part, based on verses in the book of Daniel, e.g. Daniel 10:13 and 12:1. It's been a while since I've listened to SDA teaching on the topic, so my memory is a bit fuzzy, but I am left wondering why Jude would have Michael say "The Lord rebuke you" (Jude 9) if Michael is Jesus. I think there's been some blurring of the distinction between symbolism and reality on the part of SDA teachers.
Wishing you and your family.a Great Christmas, i'm always searching, always learning through your teachings, it just seems throughout history. People will always deny who Jesus really is, God with us, emmanuel, goes way back to isaiah,so it's always good to see the old and New Testament, come together, Thanks again pastor Mike, ✝️❤️🙏
My cousin is an Seventh Day Adventist. I don’t know where he could have come across this certain point of view(My assumption is writings of Ellen G White), but he says that Jesus lowered himself to an angelic form to better understand the angels, like He did with us. Of course, there is no scripture to support it, so I didn’t believe it, but it was interesting.
For reference, I'm a former SDA who was raised SDA, went to SDA schools, the whole 9 yards. That is something Ellen White wrote (I don't have the citation handy), but not necessarily something an SDA is taught. I was taught Michael the Archangel is in fact Jesus, but also that Jesus was fully God. Now, that sounds more like the John Wesley, Charles Spurgeon, John Calvin side Mike mentioned in his video. Deep down, it's actually more akin to the JW view. This is because the early SDA founders were all Arian or semi-arians (James White, the husband of Ellen White, Joseph Bates, Uriah Smith, and more). Ellen White claimed to have divine inspiration that the pre-incarnate Jesus and the Father had physical forms that were distinct, that the Father "conferred" sonship upon Jesus, and this made Lucifer jealous. That jealousy is what spirals into the fall (think Paradise Lost). For Ellen White, she seemed to use more Trinitarian language after her husband died, but she never claimed "light" on the subject and held to her writings as having an "unbroken chain of truth." In my view, she was never truly Trinitarian because her claimed inspired writings do not invoke the one-ness of God in substance. The fact that her writings CAN be seen as making Christ lesser than the Father makes her "prophetic gift" dubious at best. Some SDAs see the Trinity (or at least the current SDA attempt to align its statements with Trinitarian thought) as heresy and/or compromise with "apostate" churches. In Adventism, any non-Adventist church is considered apostate in some way. Mostly because most churches gather on Sunday. Even with Seventh Day Baptists, it's because they believe in eternal hell or reject the SDA investigative judgment. Anyway, there is a small, but growing, group within the SDA church today that wants to go back to the SDA founders' semi-arianism. They make a compelling case to many of the most committed members because every SDA founder who mattered even a little bit to SDA history is on their side. The institutional church knows it can't justify the heresies of the founders or reconcile them to the Trinity, though not for lack of trying. The attempts to do so are to make SDA look good to evangelicals. Even those are mealy-mouthed statements that sound Trinitarian to Christians and sound non-Trinitarian to those SDAs who oppose the Trinity.
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
@@rayrayuc2014 "That is something Ellen White wrote" Former SDA here as well. It's not something Ellen White explicitly states but it something that can be deduced from her writings. For example she says, "The King of the universe summoned the heavenly hosts before Him, that in their presence He might set forth the true position of His Son and show the relation He sustained to all created beings." (PP 36.2) “Why,” questioned this mighty angel, “should Christ have the supremacy? Why is He honored above Lucifer?” (PP 36.3) "Leaving his place in the immediate presence of the Father, Lucifer went forth to diffuse the spirit of discontent among the angels... The exaltation of the Son of God as equal with the Father was represented as an injustice to Lucifer, who, it was claimed, was also entitled to reverence and honor... (PP 37.1) "they [some of the angels] were dissatisfied with His purpose in exalting Christ. These stood ready to second Lucifer's demand for equal authority with the Son of God." (PP 38.3) While not explicitly stated the implication here is that the angels did not recognize Jesus as of a different category of being as themselves and of the same being and essence as the Father. This can be deduced from, (1) the reason the Father has to explain it to them (2) Satan can desire the position of Christ. That desire can make no sense if Satan understood that Christ was is the same category of being as the Father. This is clear in that the Father's position is never misunderstood or coveted. It is always that of Christ. (3) even after the Father clarifies the true position of Christ, the angels still don't understand that clarification to be that Christ is the second person of the trinity in all of the Father's glory and essence. This is seen in that Satan still wonders why Jesus should have that honor and authority above him. And persuades other angels of the same. To be fair, White does state in that same chapter that this "exalted position" (her words) was something Jesus had "from the beginning", "before the angels" so if the SDA wants to argue the trinitarian model applies then this would just suggest that the angels before the fall had a major distorted view of who Jesus was. Because their thinking and attitudes while ascribing to Christ a very exalted position of power and authority, do not seem to place it on the same level as the Father. In any case there is certainly an angelic incarnation of Christ in White's writings.
Mike, I hope you and yours have a very Merry Christmas, and that you have (had?) a happy birthday! I've been following your channel for long enough to know our birthdays are very close and I was celebrating mine when this video went live! 😁
Spurgeon was not saying that Jesus was ''just an angel", a created being. He was saying that Jesus is from everlasting, but that when Michael the Archangel appeared, that was really Jesus. And God does appear as the "angel of the Lord", like when He wrestled with Jacob, and said Jacob had "wrestled with God, and prevailed." It all depends on whether you are thinking of angels as a certain type of created beings, or you are emphasizing that "angel" also means messenger. God can be his own messenger or prophet, when He wants to. But He is not a mere, created being when He does.
I have made the sweetest friend, through a crafting hobby we share, she lives in NewYork and she’s Catholic, I 🙏 for the Lord to open up Spiritual eyes, help people to understand his truth, I only know and understand what I do because the Lord has been merciful to me, and he’s growing my understanding, I pray 🙏 for the same for others. I’d know or understand Nothing without his help and mercy. 🙏 ❤
I know you don't know me, but I've been watching since you were still giving sermons in your church building. My dad just died today and I'd appreciate if you could pray for my family as we go through this. My dad was a believer so I know I'll see him again one day, but that doesn't help the hurt. Thanks.
I will pray for you brother. I lost my father today a year ago to suicide. There's not a single day I go by I don't remember him; eat in remembrance of him and love him. There was a quote, from an ironically a pretty bad movie, named kingdom of heaven. Although the movie is flawed in it its depiction of Christianity and Muslim crusades, this stuck with me. "How can you be dead when you're in my heart?" I think of the way papa David reacted to Saul and his son Jonathans death. He told the people, do not scorn the king, for he was God's Elect. I promise the Lord will keep his to you and your father. As he did even mine. My father was flawed, but not enough to shun Jesus from his own gift. Grace, to his Children. And children. God bless you my sweet sweet brother. I love you so much.
I don't know why nobody is talking about the book Your Life Your Game by Keezano. I read it last year, and it’s an excellent Catholic religious book. It beautifully shows how connecting with God and building meaningful relationships can lead to spiritual growth and success in both your personal and professional life. Thank you Lord 💟
Lord Jesus give me strength this Christmas. I keep faith even as I struggle as a single mother. Faith is all I have left. Both of my sons have special needs. They require so much from me. Lord Jesus give me strength as I struggle providing the basic necessities like clothing and groceries. Lord Jesus please continue to carry me through this difficult time help me provide for my children. Amen.💕
Interesting thing about Michael and the angels in his army fighting and defeating the red dragon and the angels who joined him is that it goes to show that Satan is no more powerful than any of the other angels. The Lord could in half a second defeat Satan with but a word, but I think His letting the holy angels defeat the fallen angels, it is to prove a lot of points regarding the angels, and to send a message to Satan that he can't even win against fellow angels who maintained their estate in the Kingdom. Jesus inherited the title deed to the universe, as expressed by the 7-sealed scroll that He shall open. From thence, He also shows that He bought everything back by claiming His rightful throne. The Millennial Reign shall be but a prequel to displaying what eternity shall be like. It's really cool stuff, all by plan and design.
I grew up Baptist then I went to some non-denominational churches, and then I found myself in a charismatic church, and then I finally found myself in a reformed church, which I seem to have found more truth in teaching than the other churches that I’ve been to, but I still do not agree with everything that they have and hold true to like pedo baptism. Thank you for all that you do. Thank you for studying the scriptures before you speak. There may be a few things that I don’t agree with you on, but I may agree with you later on about or you may change your mind about that’s the beautiful thing about the living Word and the Holy Spirit.
Jesus never says he is God. False Christians misinterpret his words based on the false doctrine they have chosen to accept. Then they make up excuses to explain away the statements that indicate he is not God and those that state he is not equal to God.
So you're assuming Mike is bearing false witness then correct? You don't know if it's true but you're already accusing Mike of being a liar... be careful
Do you have proof, @Scullans ? If so, I will repent. Seriously. But the fact of the matter is that not only haven't I heard that -- I can't seem to find a source for the alleged quote. Would you happen to know where Mike got this?
From “The Blood of the Lamb, The Conquering Weapon” (Sept. 9, 1888): “By faith we rise into the conquering place this day. In the heavenlies we triumph, as also in every place. We rejoice in our Lord Jesus Christ, the Michael of the angels, the Redeemer of men. For by Him we see Satan cast out and all the powers of evil hurled from their places of power and eminence.” From “Our Lord’s Transcendent Greatness” (Dec. 2, 1866): You remember how our Lord, who is the true Michael, the only great Archangel, said at the beginning of the preaching of the Gospel, “I beheld Satan as lightning falling from Heaven.” From “The Angelic Life” (Nov. 22, 1868): “We read that Michael and his angels fought against the dragon and his angels, and the dragon was cast down. The fight is going on every day. Michael is the Lord Jesus, the only Archangel.” If that were all, perhaps the group might be justified in their claim that at least Spurgeon believed this. But then I found the following, Spurgeon’s commentary on Jude 9, a passage which specifically mentions Michael: But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, was disputing about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.” Here it is clear that Spurgeon did see a distinction in the identities of Christ and Michael, for he puts forth a lesson regarding the created angel Michael as well as the “great Doctrine of angels watching over the bones of the saints.” From “The Resurrection of the Dead” (Feb. 17, 1856): “There is a remarkable passage in Jude, where it speaks of Michael the Archangel contending with the devil about the body of Moses and using no “railing accusation.” Now, this refers to the great Doctrine of angels watching over the bones of the saints. Certainly it tells us that the body of Moses was watched over by a great archangel. The devil thought to disturb that body but Michael contended with him about it. Now would there be a contention about that body if it had been of no value? Would Michael contend for that which was only to be the food of worms? Would he wrestle with the enemy for that which was to be scattered to the four winds of Heaven, never to be united again into a new and goodlier fabric? No. Assuredly not! From this we learn that an angel watches over every tomb. It is no fiction, when on the marble we carve the cherubs with their wings. There are cherubs with outstretched wings over the head of the gravestones of all the righteous. Yes, and where “the rude forefathers of the hamlet sleep,” in some nook overgrown by nettles, there an angel stands night and day to watch each bone and guard each atom, that at the resurrection, those bodies, with more glory than they had on earth, may start up to dwell forever with the Lord! The guardianship of the bodies of the saints by angels proves that they shall rise again from the dead!”
QUESTION 🙋🏻♀️: I still don’t understand how we go from the Acts Church very humble beginning to the very BOLD DECADENT AND all the bells and whistles of the Catholic Church? At which point was that HUGE leap made? Please do a church history or point me to one Ty 😊 Hi new here I think I stumbled upon your channel by way of Allen parr. Absolutely love your teaching it’s opened my eyes so much!
Hi! Always happy to meet new comers. If you go to the Bible Thinker youtube channel you can find just about anything. I'm pretty sure that Mike has what you are looking for. I know he has several videos on Catholism.
But nobody complains of The ANGEL of the LORD being in the same breath as Jesus because every Bible Scholar in the New Testament says that the ANGEL of the LORD is the pre-incarnate Jesus because apparently both receive worship. Help me make sense of this.
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
@@BigMamaMyers same thing used to happen with another channel I watch… they moved to rumble and I get notifications on time there. Political channel so I won’t mention who it is here.
1:07:13 - doesn’t the Branch of David, who will arise *with* the Interpreter of the Law make it sound like the Interpreter is the Holy Spirit? Or am I way off the mark here?
Hey Mike, you probably wont see this comment but if by chance you do, do you believe that Jesus was the Angel of the LORD or Angel of YHWH in the Old Testament that spoke to the patriarchs and would speak as God in first person?
@@MikeWinger Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
@@Mr.DC.1914.1 You can copy and paste this as many times as you want, Mike clearly refuted this in the video, and all of scripture refutes this. Jesus is GOD, not an angel.
@@ReformedMickey so you think ANOTHER angel is RESPONSIBLE for SAVING PEOPLE AND RAISING THEM up from the Dead and that this Angel IS GREATER than Jesus AS SAR. Dan 12. really?
@@ReformedMickey Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
@@Mr.DC.1914.1 No, the Angel of the Lord is clearly God, but not god the father, nor god the holy spirit. That leaves one option, Jesus. The angle of the lord is never called an archangel. THE angel of the lord is a unique being. Mike gives all the right answers in this video about that.
i am confronted alot by a coworker that is JW and so it has really promoted me to study and seek out scripture that is the truth and I showed him these exact verses in hebrews. However I am really struggling with how to show him the truth about the trinity. It was very close to him making fun of me for beleving that Jesus and God are the same. so keep me in prayers for witnessing the truth to the JW's I work with
You'll never convince a jw of that. Simply because they don't believe God died when Jesus died. Because God raised him up. Instead to put a jw in their place. Prove 607,1914 is wrong. Which you can with the Bible Or ask if they are so different from the world why do they have a massive child abuse problem? Or ask why they shun. People until they take their own lives. Like their leader Stephen Lett who's nephew ended his life because of shunning.
I've had some success with JW's and Muslims by explaining it this way. We are made in the image of God, we are body, mind and spirit, all truly different and yet all truly one. I am 3 in one, why can't God who is greater than I be similarly and yet better?
God love you Mike,you are doing a great job and I love learning from your teaching method just say it as it is in bible,learned so much through the years,why do they keep adding ridiculousness,those JWs are crazy just like Mormonism,Catholicism!Just read and believe what is written with nothing else!!!🙏💗🇬🇧
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
Probably shouldn't skip He. 1:1-3. vs. 1,2 shows that in the past, God used the prophets to speak to his people. But now, God uses Jesus to speak to his people. God appointed Jesus. And God exalted Jesus to his right hand. That's two individuals. One is God, the other is Jesus. But let's focus on vs. 2. Jesus is the messenger for God. The word angel is a title. It means messenger. It even applies to humans. 1 Th. 4:16 - the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel's voice... Archangel is word 743 and means chief of the angels. Or chief messenger! 😮 Jo. 1:1 calls Jesus the word. Why? Jo. 3:16 says God sent Jesus. And He. 1:2 says Jesus is the spokesman for God. Michael and HIS angels... Whose angels? Mt. 16:27 - ...the son of man... with HIS angels... Mt. 24:31 - And he will send out HIS angels with a great trumpet sound Mt. 25:31 - ... the son of man... and all the angels with him... 2 Th. 1:7 - ... the Lord Jesus from heaven with HIS powerful angels. Re. 1:10 - ...and I heard behind me a strong voice like that of a trumpet, (Yep, Jesus' voice.)
Good list... Verse 2 also explains clearly, Jesus was used by God to create. God is the creator. Jesus was his master workman, his agent in creation. Jesus himself tells us who the creator is when he spoke of Adam and Eve: "Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,.." That HE which made them. Jesus was there, I'm pretty sure he knows who is the creator. "He's God the second person" as Mike says is complete fiction.
Hi, Daniel 10:13 clearly refers to Michael as ONE OF the chief princes. It's there in black and white. He is AN archangel, not THE archangel. In Jude's short epistle, both Jesus and Michael are referred to within a few verses of each other but the writer does not identify them as one. Why not? If Jesus is a created being, then why does he share WORSHIP with the one seated on the throne in Revelation chapter 5? If you would be kind enough to address THESE scriptures I would be grateful. Thanks.
@This.Island.Earth68 One of the Chief Princes, (or a prince of the first rank).. it doesn't say "one of the Archangels". Though it does say in Daniel that Michael is Daniel's prince, which is interesting. Especially as Michael "stands up" at the "time of distress that there had not been since a nation existed up to that time;"... Which sounds familiar right? When Michael stands up, "at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book".. Compare Matt24, the sign of Christ's coming: 21"For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened." So, at the time of the greatest tribulation ever, Michael the great prince "stands up" and at the same time, Jesus the prince of peace comes against Satan's world. The days are cut short on both occasions to save the "elect"... They both come "with their angels". When Michael comes "many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.".. Yet, who's voice calls them? Joh5:28,29 tells us it's Jesus' voice... and they awake "unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment" What does 1thess4:16 describe Jesus voice as again? And does what?
@This.Island.Earth68 One of the Chief Princes, (or a prince of the first rank).. it doesn't say "one of the Archangels". Though it does say in Daniel that Michael is Daniel's prince, which is interesting. Especially as Michael "stands up" at the "time of distress that there had not been since a nation existed up to that time;"... Which sounds familiar right? When Michael stands up, "at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book".. Compare Matt24, the sign of Christ's coming: 21"For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened."....
So, at the time of the greatest tribulation ever, Michael the great prince "stands up" and at the same time, Jesus the prince of peace comes against Satan's world. The days are cut short on both occasions to save the "elect"... They both come "with their angels". When Michael comes "many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.".. Yet, who's voice calls them? Joh5:28,29 tells us it's Jesus' voice... and they awake "unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment" What does 1thess4:16 describe Jesus voice as again? And does what?
Father God I know you will make a way for my sons. As a single mother I feel so alone. Lord I know my faith will get me through my hardships I’ve been facing with my sons as a single mother. Both of are special needs and require much from me. Lord I’m trusting your plan so as I struggle financially to provide for my children give me strength and you grace.
Hebrews 2:16 alone totally destroys any notion that Jesus even might be Michael the Archangel: Hebrews 2:16 KJVS For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. This Scripture clearly says Jesus did not become an angel but he became a man. If Jesus was already an angel, this Scripture wouldn't make any sense. God Bless
I think even with the KJV the principle message still comes through when contextually understanding the implications being brought forth from what the author of Hebrews is stating about Jesus not being an angelic being but becoming Man. It exposes the reality that Jesus went forth and completed His mission to redeem mankind taking on human flesh that He may be a representative of us to purchase us from sin, death, the grave; this truth is the fulfillment of the kinsman redeemer type as well as the high priest type as well as the perfect sacrifice type. This is to say that we do not know of redemption for fallen angels being that hell was created for Satan and those who fell with him. If we were to say that Jesus became an angel then His perfect work would have also redeemed them as well, but this is not the case according to scripture. This is just exposing the implications of the thought that Jesus is Michael the Archangel; however, I do think that we can gain the best perspective by viewing the worship and exaltation of the Angel of the Lord as opposed to the few times Michael is mentioned in the scriptures to see if he is perceived and/or received in the same manner.
I agree with you Mike Winger but my only concern is: who is the angel of the Lord? I agree that Jesus is not an angel but then I get semi conflicted mentally when I know that angel means messenger and also that an angel of the Lord exists. So we know Jesus has a higher name than the angels but there is an angel of the Lord - does this mean he has his own personal Angel with him?
@graybillythekid although the Angel of YHWH/Jehovah/Yahweh asks Jehovah a question... which makes no sense if they are one in the same... Zech1:12 "Then the angel of Jehovah answered and said, O Jehovah of hosts, how long wilt thou not have mercy on Jerusalem and on the cities of Judah, against which thou hast had indignation these threescore and ten years?"
According to the Bible Michael the arc angel is the protector of Israel. Strange how so called christian teachers twist the truth into lies. The Gospel, the new covenant is Jesus Crist. A child knows that but we have the enemy trying to question our belief. Praying we all will receive the gift of having faith like a child, simpel and fully trusting. Always with our attention on His presense through His Holy Spirit. God bless you and yours, ❤Norway 🙏⭐️
I really like the comment about Jesus inheriting. That made sense to me Jesus came as man lower than angels as humankind is and with his death resurrection inherited the right as the second Adam to the whole universe that Adam lost to Satan. This inheritance is Jesus's experienced as man not his deity or GOD.
Hallelujah. Trust God when you pray it works. He said all we need to do is ask in prayers. My testimony spans from penury to $27,000 weekly, and you stayand doubt that he doesn't answer prayers. Make that altar now and spend time there. A change is on the way. Amen!!!
I can't even afford to provide Christmas for my 3 children. So there is no chance of us preparing for anything crazy to come. I pray and ask the lord to take my fear of this and I pray for the lord to make a way to provide in ways I cant. I homeschool my kids and my husband is the only financial income coming in and most months we make just enough to cover our bills. Lord please take my fear of this and my fear of not making ends meet. You know my heart God and I trust that you will get us through. Amen.
It is simply by digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US amd abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus
If we say Michael is a metaphor for Jesus is to say He was created? Maybe u could show me where Michael was created so I could better understand. Seems ur speaking from a presupposition, respectfully speaking.
@ it would be adding to the text. When God said the heavenly host were created He was talking about the Sun, Moon, n Stars. It doesn’t mention the creation of Cherubim or Seraphim. So that would be an assumption if we’re logically speaking.
Immanuel is called the everlasting Father in Isiah. Jesus said that He came from the Father. Jesus said that you have to honor the Son even as you honor the Father or you don't honor the Father who sent the Son. Cults say that Jesus was created and they won't make it
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
Thank you for the great video. It will help in discussions with a friend of mine. Two interesting points on this great video/discussion. Short point first, On the subject of science and the universe, I watched a great video today on 'Daily Dose of Wisdom' with an astrophysicist that actually discussed that for a bit (Astrophysicist Explains Dozens of Reasons to Believe in God). It was well spoken and reasoned (and explained a bit of the physics side I didn't have a good picture of). His current studies about antimatter is interesting, too, hahaha. Second was on the matter of Jesus gaining authority by way of the cross. I believe I first heard it at a yearly Week-long meeting the church denomination I'm member of used to hold in Central South Carolina around the start of July. Mike touched on it in this video, that man was given dominion over the earth. The preacher presented the picture of seats of authority, and Whoever is in the seat, has the authority. God creates earth, and presents the seat of dominion to Adam, who through sin, vacates it, leaving it empty, and satan 'hops' into the seat of authority. When Jesus is tempted by satan in the Wilderness, he is offered 'all before him' - he 'sits' in the seat of authority, and is offering it to Jesus in attempt to derail God's plan (that he only knows elements of, but not details). By the Sacrifice, and Resurrection The authority and power of Death and the Grave are broken by Jesus. My assumption is the 'seat' of earth's authority was either reclaimed at the resurrection, or is waiting until His return. Either way, His name holds power over all on the earth. Whether our own authority in His name is little or much I would imagine lays at least in part in how closely we walk in the footsteps the Lord prepares for us. The brief moment about boldness at about 00:42:20 is the third time today I have encountered encouragement to be bold in sharing the Word. The second was a video on RuslanKD's second channel about an old video clip. The third was an ad for a church in Arizona as part of a series on Living Sacrifice points out that John the Baptist was appraised highly, in part as he was able to reveal the Christ, the 'Privileged Information' of 'The Lamb of God that takes away the Sin of the World' yet we have that testimony and more! Even if it's only that Jesus died to cover for the sins of All. We need not be afraid or ashamed of the Good News of Salvation from sin and death by God through Jesus Christ.
Can God die ?...Jesus died !....no man has seen God...at any time...how many Gods are there.?...deu 6:4...did God...leave heaven?...the Father is greater than Jesus...how many levels of the true God are there...all praise goes to YHWH...Jesus is the door to the one true God...! Peter said jesus was the messiah...not God.. !
Saying Jesus is Michael doesn’t have to mean Jesus is a created being. No where in the Bible does it say angel means created being, the word angel is from the Greek word “messenger”. Can we say Jesus is a messenger, does “messenger” have to mean “created being”? The qoutes you are using can be looked at in another way that makes them very clear. There are several ways to evidence it in the Bible. One very simple way is that the word Michael means “one who is as God is”. What does the Bible say Satans sin in heaven started as: I will make myself like the Most High. (Isaiah 14:14) So Satan wanted to be as God is, which means he wanted to be Michael (as that is what that name means). So Satan, the highest of all created beings sinned by wanting to be what Michael was (one who is as God is)
I have a couple questions. What does the hebrew name Michael mean? and angel means messenger, so where in the Bible does it say that Michael was a created being? Also, I don't listen to non-scripture, so some random text about multiple arch angels mean zip
The Jude passage puts the nail in the coffin in this argument! Michael passes rebuking of Satan over to God / Jesus regularly rebukes Satan throughout scripture. Jesus = God Jesus > Michael Good work Mike!!!
You are 100% wrong and have no understanding of the truth of the Bible. You only understand the antichrist christianity of the apostate church. Repent!
I really hope that you address some of the things I've heard from other teachers and podcasters. I've heard some people who maintain that Jesus was Michael the archangel in his preincarnate state, but that he was always a part of the Trinity. So they maintain that Michael was the second person of the Trinity before the incarnation and that Jesus is just the name he had while he was incarnate. I really hoping you address that because it's something that I've heard from someone and it's fundamentally different from Jehovah's witnesses, because they maintained that Jesus is form and function are consistent, and the only thing that changed was his name
Compare the description of Jesus in Revelation 1:12-16 with the speaker in Daniel 10:5-6. The features match almost exactly. This speaker in Daniel 10 says in verse 13, "Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me." If the speaker is Jesus, then Michael is helping Jesus and therefore cannot be Jesus. Another thing to consider is Daniel 12:1. It says Michael will stand for Israel in the last days. If Michael's name was changed to Jesus, then why is Michael being called Michael in the last days? We see the same in Revelation 12. Michael fighting the devil and his angels, not Jesus. If Michael is Jesus in the New Testament, then why does it say Michael is fighting?
I've heard Mike argue that the phrase “ANGEL of the LORD” in the Old Testament represents Jesus. Many people make that claim. Take Exodus 14:9, for instance. Mike may speculate that the unnamed “angel of the LORD” could signify Jesus, yet he seems to dismiss the idea that a named Archangel-whose name translates to chief, leader, or ruler of the angels-could represent him. It just doesn’t add up!
Where did all the prophets go that could receive revelation? This revelation could tell us who Michael is. The Savior in Ephesians said we need Apostles and Prophets to bring us to a unity. Obviously we are not unified after listening. to Mike.
You have spoken in ignorance. There are no more prophets since Jesus and now that the world has all of the words of God, the 66 books of the Bible, there is NO need for any further revelation. The Bible clearly tells us that Michael is Jesus! Anyone who tells you different, is NOT a Christian.
How come you can say the angel of the Lord is Jesus, but when people say the archangel of the Lord is the same angel of the Lord revealing himself. If angel of the Lord is Jesus, I will also be open to say the archangel of the Lord is the same Lord. It is not dimishing Jesus to a created being, but saying the same angel of the Lord in the old testament is called Michael too.
Mike Winger have you seen the pattern that Old Testament mostly deals with angel dominion, new testament deals with human dominion? It is interesting, and if one does a close study of angels mentioned in Revelation, like the one in Ch 8 who receives the prayers of the saints and offers them to the Father, that “angel” is Christ. As one who believes most of Revelation was dealing with the close of the old covenant age (leading to AD70), it makes sense why angels are mentioned heavily here (including Christ as an “angel” with Godly/intercessory powers, but also as all the other symbolic figures he reps: metal men, lamb, warrior on a horse, etc.) as the cosmic order shifts from angellic dominion to man-hence we see saints encircling God at the thrones instead of previously the angels. So OT, “Angel of the Lord” and “Michael” are old covenant age names for the divine Logos, and then “Jesus” or “Christ” are new covenant age names for the incarnate Logos. But ill give this a listen. 👍🏽
@ there are many passages, but of course, it may take some time to train one’s eye to adjust. It helps getting some study in biblical Symbolism from Re-Enchant Reformers or EO’s. Sounds sketch, but they offer some useful instruction in being able to see biblical patterns and interpret rich symbolism in scripture beyond just the main things most Protestants are taught about Jesus typology.
@@Dee-nonamnamrson8718 i gave Rev ch 8 (vs4) regarding the “angel” taking the prayers of the saints and offering them up to God (the Father). Just keep an eye. Also Rev 14:8 what “angel” has authority over the “fire of the altar “ (the Holy Spirit)? Jesus, which is called an angel in this vision.
I never get an answer to this question which I find suspect. But if I’m just going by the scriptures, angels always seem to be men. I’ve heard people make assumptions, the examples always show men, never winged creatures like cherubim & seraphim.
Mike, I think you’re missing the context of Hebrews 1. God is talking about how Jesus became better than the angels, by making a purification for mankind and sat down at the right hand of God (Verse 3) and “became” better than the angels and inherited a “name,” something that he didn’t have. Verse 5, by opening with “For,” shows here when he “inherited” the “name” he didn’t have before. “Today, I have become your father” highlights the resurrection, when Jesus sat down at the right hand of majesty. (Psalm 110:1) For to which one of the angels did God ever say this? To sit at my right hand, be resurrected, receive this “name”, to recieve this authority? Jesus was better than the angels in this, not the fact that he wasn’t an angel! When did God say that to any of the angels? Why? Christ became “lower than the angels,” (Ps. 8:5) he was the “last Adam,” so when God resurrected him He was resurrecting someone who died as a man. God in this verse wasn’t saying this to an angel who materialised as a man and who died, he said it to someone who was not an angel at all or God or spirit, he was a man whilst on earth. (1 Tim. 2:5) Because of dying in faithfulness like no angel has or can, God resurrected Jesus and made him “better than the angels,” not because of his nature, not because he shares one eternal divine nature better than the angels. It’ doesn’t say that, it says because he got a better “name,” he didn’t have it before. He “inherited” it, God gave it to him. (1 Cor. 15:45) Otherwise, if God only says the statement of himself being the father of the son only, then where would that leave the angels? If God isn’t their father, then who is? This highlights that Jesus position as an angel doesn’t stop him from being identified as God’s son.
saw a few in the comments saying Jesus is Michael but as per usual for such nonsense they don't give a single argument for that, let alone countering Mikes points, and instead they just scream condemnation all the louder.
Could it be argued that Michael is referred to as the chief of princes, while Revelation 19:16 describes Christ as "King of Kings, and Lord of Lords," indicating a clear distinction in hierarchy?
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
@@Mr.DC.1914.1 The Bible describes Jesus as having ultimate authority over all angels, including Michael: 1 Peter 3:22: "Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him." Hebrews 1:6: "And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him."
@@rebuildspirit did you read my questions in Dan 12? If that ARCHANGEL is A DIFFERENT person, and called GREAT SAR(greatest) so for you another angel is greater than Jesus as SAR and will RESURRECT the dead
@@Mr.DC.1914.1 Daniel 12:1 refers to Michael as a 'great prince' who stands for Israel, not as God or the ultimate authority. Resurrection power is attributed exclusively to Christ in verses like John 11:25-26 and John 5:28-29, where it is His voice that raises the dead. Michael is a powerful angel, but Jesus is the Creator of all angels (Colossians 1:16) and is worshiped as King of Kings (Revelation 19:16). The two roles are distinct, and Christ is far above any angel in authority and divinity.
@@rebuildspirit Dan 12:1-2 , that archangel will SAVE people and RAISE THE DEAD. and it is called GREAT - (hebrew means GREATEST) SAR, so for you another angel is GREATER than Jesus and is responsible for raising up the dead
Hey @MikeWinger do you rhink those thst don't believe in the trinity (Unitarians) aren't saved? I believe in the trinity but been told from other Christians who believe he was only fully man but is the Son of God and savior thst I'm not saved because I believe Jesus is God.
10 And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem which is the land of our forefathers, she being a virgin, a precious and chosen vessel, who shall be overshadowed and conceive by the power of the Holy Ghost, and bring forth a son, yea, even the Son of God.
The Jewish form of Michael is my surname, and to add more, my father’s kin‘s main physical features,( the eyes colour the hair colour, the eyebrows, the nostrils shape) are the same as, those of JESUS in the letter of Pontius Pilate’s wife, and like those of the shroud of Turin, ( only the hair colour which was cender shade of blonde,and not red, or hazelnut shade like JESUS is described to have had, and because of the cold temperatures in my country their skin was not tanned at all but cold white) and like Thranduil the king of the elves( which are supposed to be angels). I know one thing for sure randomness doesn’t exist! GOD makes everything with purpose! I am very blessed to have anything that come close to anything JESUS had as a man, I feel beyond graced, and very humbled by HIS grace, especially that my father and his father looked like the imagine which we have of JESUS, not only in colours but also the shapes and details distances on the face, which I will be true brings so much happiness to my heart! Above all I am a happy servant of the LORD JESUS CHRIST THE ONE TRUE GOD! For a long time I believed too that JESUS is Archangel Michael but now maybe I will research more before I say that with certainty! Because if you spell my surname backwards is almost ELOHIM, only one letter is different ! All this non coincidence facts that GOD perfectly webbed in my destiny together with all that the BIBLE says about Archangel Michael made me believe that it might be also a sign that JESUS was in heaven Archangel Michael!
@Mike 19:38 have you looked into the interpretation that the body of Moses was the body of Israel he cared for (a type of Christ as head over the body of his church). So why would a mere angel be fighting Satan for this “body” of people? Its Gotta be Jesus/Michael fighting over the body of Moses, like Jesus fights over the body of his Bride in the New Covenant Age.
Merry Christmas Mr. Winger, Mrs. Winger and family; and to Mikes incredible team; and to all of my precious brothers and sisters in our Lord Jesus Christ!
Merry Christmas! God bless you and your family! ~Staff :)
Mike, your consistency is incredible. This study is amazing. I pray you continue to live a God-fearing life and continue to encourage and strengthen all those who watch. I certainly need it. Thank you!
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus.
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27
AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
Amen! I am so blessed right now. Thank you Mike for reiterating the essence and significance of our Lord and God Jesus the Christ. It' s such an awesome and overwhelming realization that He is The Great I AM. Beautiful exposition! Have a blessed Christmas.
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus.
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27
AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
Thank you so much Brother Mike! Thank you for loving The Word of GOD and HIS Truth!! May GOD bless you and your family!
I want to evangelize to JWs this is a blessing thank you Mike!
@@taylore22 you might be wasting your time… JW are saved a lot of them are.
@@jordanmckissick6362no, not if they don’t believe Jesus is God. Which the vast majority of them (if not all) don’t believe and are therefore not saved
@NicoSmedley dude God will NOT judge them based on what their 3 pound brains comprehend. Your asleep man. Listen I will see JW a lot of them in paradise. 100%. You acting like all you Christian’s as I am that we have it all figured out. Dude no one has it figured out. It’s okay to be wrong. What saved them is Gods grace. It’s a gift. They accept the blood of Jesus and him as savior yes they do. They accept the Jesus of Joseph, son of God who did miracles. They understand and accept the sacrifice. Maybe they don’t understand or reject the idea of Jesus being God so what? News flash they aren’t evil dawg. They really try and I will continue to look at them as my brothers and sisters.
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus.
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27
AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
Merry Christmas, Mike. You've been a huge blessing to me over the years.
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Mike has helped me to strengthen my understand as to why Christianity is not true
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@@jasonnoble7302 Hey, man, that's your call to make. Would you mind sharing your greatest objection? I'm just curious.
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From what we see you’ve written to Mike on here it looks like you’re projecting 🤷♂️
I think the problem is you’re low level reading comprehension
Try some advanced level reading books. Go buy a Hitchens book for goodness sake. 😫
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Michael the Archangel is a servant of Jesus!
Thank you for finally numbering the Hebrews episodes! Love this series !!
"Jesus is Michael the arch angel!"
Michael: slowly turns to Jesus with a look of confusion..."my Lord, did you uh...tell them to say that?"
Jesus: "ha...no..."
Michael: shrugs...
Jesus and Michael laugh together 😂
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus.
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27
AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
Thanks for fitting this in for Christmas Mike. God bless you in this wonderful season. ❤️
Thanks Mike! You won't believe it but, I had a JW round the house a few hrs ago. After wrestling (wrestling as in metaphorically) for 20mins or so, he left.
I was driven to dig up more scripture! I typed Jesus is God into the search engine... Guess who was doing a live stream on the subject I wanted help with?
Thanks buddy!
God bless!
Don't you love how God works?
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
I like to use John 8:58-59 whenever JWs approach me…Jesus is saying He is the I Am,..and the Jews tried to stone him for blasphemy because they understood exactly what he was claiming
@@lainegordon5831 Just saying I AM does not make you GOD. Also the Septuagint text says I AM THE BEING, which is different from " I am". Also you believed those Jews who wanted to kill Jesus and thought that Jesus sinned by breaking the Sabbath and whom Jesus said that they were from their father the devil?
Thank you for your ongoing wonderful work!
Your video about how to get saved made me realise that I - even though I thought myself a christian - didn't know the first thing about God or His plan for us. I just never knew there were real answers to these important questions and never bothered digging. I was a fool and I probably very much still am. But you helped me seek the Lord and He saved me. Thank you, Mike!
A couple of days ago there where two JW's at our door. My husband talked to them. He didn't yet have a biblebased answer on why Michael isn't Jesus, so in the last few days he wanted to search for an answer. The timing of this video is awesome haha 😊
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
Mike, my pastor and I share your videos with each other almost weekly!!! Great content and a biblical approach every time!
Hi! Tell your pastor I said hello!
Such great teaching as always! I'm so glad we got another entry to the Hebrews series right before Christmas. Merry Christmas to Mike, your family, and staff. God bless you all for this wonderful ministry!
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
@Mr.DC.1914.1 First of all, your argument is disingenuous. The Hebrew word "sar" can have many different meanings, but it never means "angel". It can mean prince, or captain, commander, leader, ruler, official, governor, chief. That makes it pretty clear what it actually means, and it definitely doesn't mean angel. It's a broad title of authority. Jesus is called the "Sar" (Prince) of Peace. Michael is called "has-sar" (the prince) "haggadol" (great), "the great prince".
You could make your argument from this passage for the Spurgeon view of Michael, without falsely applying meaning to words that does not actually apply.
I think the case that Mike made is much stronger, but at least try to make your case with honesty and integrity.
@@KFish-bw1om so you think ANOTHER angel is RESPONSIBLE for SAVING PEOPLE AND RAISING THEM up from the Dead and that this Angel IS GREATER than Jesus AS SAR. Dan 12. really?
@@KFish-bw1om Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus.
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27
AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
@@KFish-bw1om and pls stop twisting I never mentioned that SAR ONLY means Patron Angel, and you cannot ignore that it means PATRON ANGEL
Merry Christmas! I am so grateful for your ministry. God bless you in the coming year. ❤
Thank you Mike! We appreciate you and are so very thankful for the Love of Jesus. Merry Christmas
I learned so much from this study and very glad that you are taking your time to emphasize the weightiness of the scriptures that we are studying. Looking forward to rewatching, taking more notes, and learning more as we advance further
This is just so good. Pure theological journeying with Jesus and the brethren.
Thank you Mike!
Merry Christmas Mike! Christ is born ❤️
May the Lord's blessings always be upon you and your family, Mike! Merry Christmas!!!
Amen. Merry Christmas to you and yours!
Merry Christmas Mike and family! Thank you for what you do.
Thank you ❤
Great Mike! I will add this breakdown to one of my apologetics custom GPTs that refutes JW’s.
Thank you, Mike. It helps me to think biblically I really appreciate you. You’re a godly man. 😊
What a channel! Mike Winger thank you. Merry Christmas!
I soooo appreciate your teaching and teaching style.
Respectful, yet accurate and with love.
Thank you, Mike
I pray that you and your family have a wonderful Christmas
Mike, my husband and I love to learn from you. You give us so much to chat about and discuss. May God bless you and your family. Happy Hanukkah!
Merry Christmas
Really good series, Mike. I appreciate your love and respect for Jesus and the way you handle God's Word. I have been a sub for several months now (from my old channel), and you have become my favorite teacher. I have also watched the videos on your other channel and will be launching this current channel "Sitting with Jesus" in the next few weeks, Lord willing! I'm nearly 70 and retired and have had the pleasure of knowing Jesus for nearly 50 years now. The encouragement you have shared has been important in helping me in my decision to "go for it" and start sharing my own experiences with our Lord. God Bless You!
God bless your efforts and use you to help others!
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
Guys please pray for me and my relationship. My wife of three years i had met when she was a JW and has now echo chambered herself with her JW family once again and is now ignoring me and acting like she cant stand be with me, for the favor of her family. She was confirmed out of it, yet still seeks their favor above mine, without any evangelistic intent to try and speak with her family, let alone defend me. Please pray she gets truly freed from that mental prison. She needs a little nudge, but wont listen to me. Please help brothers and sisters this hurts me. I apologize for such personal information, im just desperate for her family to get out too.
Merry Christmas Mike! Thank you for your obedience to use the gifts God has given you to teach His Word!✝️❤️🎄
I would like to see your view on how the SDA church views this because I like that u are going verse by verse, and I've seen our church go through it verse by verse - and I'd like to see a discussion on this so that we can all think biblically and come to deeper understandings of the word of God
@@Navigata1 S D A violates what the apostle Paul wrote in his epistles to the early churches
@peterhesedzaoTheir doctrine that the founders set may contradict, but some churches actually go through the scriptures and teach. There are followers in Christ in SDA churches, like every other one. My one gripe is their reliance on Ellen G White to interpret scripture at some points.
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Not just to "interpret," by to "write" it as well.
My understanding is that what SDA teaches is, in part, based on verses in the book of Daniel, e.g. Daniel 10:13 and 12:1. It's been a while since I've listened to SDA teaching on the topic, so my memory is a bit fuzzy, but I am left wondering why Jude would have Michael say "The Lord rebuke you" (Jude 9) if Michael is Jesus. I think there's been some blurring of the distinction between symbolism and reality on the part of SDA teachers.
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Michael is of the order of archangel; there are other like him.
Christ is the ONLY begotten of the Father.
Wishing you and your family.a Great Christmas, i'm always searching, always learning through your teachings, it just seems throughout history. People will always deny who Jesus really is, God with us, emmanuel, goes way back to isaiah,so it's always good to see the old and New Testament, come together,
Thanks again pastor Mike,
✝️❤️🙏
My cousin is an Seventh Day Adventist. I don’t know where he could have come across this certain point of view(My assumption is writings of Ellen G White), but he says that Jesus lowered himself to an angelic form to better understand the angels, like He did with us. Of course, there is no scripture to support it, so I didn’t believe it, but it was interesting.
That is an interesting idea, it's not an Adventist teaching though
For reference, I'm a former SDA who was raised SDA, went to SDA schools, the whole 9 yards. That is something Ellen White wrote (I don't have the citation handy), but not necessarily something an SDA is taught. I was taught Michael the Archangel is in fact Jesus, but also that Jesus was fully God. Now, that sounds more like the John Wesley, Charles Spurgeon, John Calvin side Mike mentioned in his video. Deep down, it's actually more akin to the JW view. This is because the early SDA founders were all Arian or semi-arians (James White, the husband of Ellen White, Joseph Bates, Uriah Smith, and more). Ellen White claimed to have divine inspiration that the pre-incarnate Jesus and the Father had physical forms that were distinct, that the Father "conferred" sonship upon Jesus, and this made Lucifer jealous. That jealousy is what spirals into the fall (think Paradise Lost). For Ellen White, she seemed to use more Trinitarian language after her husband died, but she never claimed "light" on the subject and held to her writings as having an "unbroken chain of truth." In my view, she was never truly Trinitarian because her claimed inspired writings do not invoke the one-ness of God in substance. The fact that her writings CAN be seen as making Christ lesser than the Father makes her "prophetic gift" dubious at best. Some SDAs see the Trinity (or at least the current SDA attempt to align its statements with Trinitarian thought) as heresy and/or compromise with "apostate" churches. In Adventism, any non-Adventist church is considered apostate in some way. Mostly because most churches gather on Sunday. Even with Seventh Day Baptists, it's because they believe in eternal hell or reject the SDA investigative judgment. Anyway, there is a small, but growing, group within the SDA church today that wants to go back to the SDA founders' semi-arianism. They make a compelling case to many of the most committed members because every SDA founder who mattered even a little bit to SDA history is on their side. The institutional church knows it can't justify the heresies of the founders or reconcile them to the Trinity, though not for lack of trying. The attempts to do so are to make SDA look good to evangelicals. Even those are mealy-mouthed statements that sound Trinitarian to Christians and sound non-Trinitarian to those SDAs who oppose the Trinity.
Well scripture says he didn't take on the nature of angels but the seed of Abraham. So that one scripture would totally refute their doctrine.
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
@@rayrayuc2014 "That is something Ellen White wrote"
Former SDA here as well. It's not something Ellen White explicitly states but it something that can be deduced from her writings. For example she says,
"The King of the universe summoned the heavenly hosts before Him, that in their presence He might set forth the true position of His Son and show the relation He sustained to all created beings." (PP 36.2)
“Why,” questioned this mighty angel, “should Christ have the supremacy? Why is He honored above Lucifer?” (PP 36.3)
"Leaving his place in the immediate presence of the Father, Lucifer went forth to diffuse the spirit of discontent among the angels... The exaltation of the Son of God as equal with the Father was represented as an injustice to Lucifer, who, it was claimed, was also entitled to reverence and honor... (PP 37.1)
"they [some of the angels] were dissatisfied with His purpose in exalting Christ. These stood ready to second Lucifer's demand for equal authority with the Son of God." (PP 38.3)
While not explicitly stated the implication here is that the angels did not recognize Jesus as of a different category of being as themselves and of the same being and essence as the Father. This can be deduced from,
(1) the reason the Father has to explain it to them
(2) Satan can desire the position of Christ. That desire can make no sense if Satan understood that Christ was is the same category of being as the Father. This is clear in that the Father's position is never misunderstood or coveted. It is always that of Christ.
(3) even after the Father clarifies the true position of Christ, the angels still don't understand that clarification to be that Christ is the second person of the trinity in all of the Father's glory and essence. This is seen in that Satan still wonders why Jesus should have that honor and authority above him. And persuades other angels of the same.
To be fair, White does state in that same chapter that this "exalted position" (her words) was something Jesus had "from the beginning", "before the angels" so if the SDA wants to argue the trinitarian model applies then this would just suggest that the angels before the fall had a major distorted view of who Jesus was. Because their thinking and attitudes while ascribing to Christ a very exalted position of power and authority, do not seem to place it on the same level as the Father. In any case there is certainly an angelic incarnation of Christ in White's writings.
I love you Pastor Mike. I pray I meet you one day. What an inspiration you have been. May the Lord preserve you for his name’s sake.
This man is NOT a Christian! He is a deceiver and has deceived you all because none of you belong to Jesus. Repent!
Love the pastor sweater hommie. Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas and happy new Year Mike and Team!
This episode pairs nicely with the latest episode from Allen Parr (The Beat)! Thank you for your ministry. Merry Christmas! ❤
❤ Merry Christmas ❤
Good teaching Mike 😊
Mike, I hope you and yours have a very Merry Christmas, and that you have (had?) a happy birthday! I've been following your channel for long enough to know our birthdays are very close and I was celebrating mine when this video went live! 😁
Happy belated birthday!
Spurgeon was not saying that Jesus was ''just an angel", a created being. He was saying that Jesus is from everlasting, but that when Michael the Archangel appeared, that was really Jesus. And God does appear as the "angel of the Lord", like when He wrestled with Jacob, and said Jacob had "wrestled with God, and prevailed." It all depends on whether you are thinking of angels as a certain type of created beings, or you are emphasizing that "angel" also means messenger. God can be his own messenger or prophet, when He wants to. But He is not a mere, created being when He does.
I have made the sweetest friend, through a crafting hobby we share, she lives in NewYork and she’s Catholic, I 🙏 for the Lord to open up Spiritual eyes, help people to understand his truth, I only know and understand what I do because the Lord has been merciful to me, and he’s growing my understanding, I pray 🙏 for the same for others. I’d know or understand Nothing without his help and mercy. 🙏 ❤
I know you don't know me, but I've been watching since you were still giving sermons in your church building. My dad just died today and I'd appreciate if you could pray for my family as we go through this. My dad was a believer so I know I'll see him again one day, but that doesn't help the hurt. Thanks.
I will pray for you brother. I lost my father today a year ago to suicide. There's not a single day I go by I don't remember him; eat in remembrance of him and love him. There was a quote, from an ironically a pretty bad movie, named kingdom of heaven. Although the movie is flawed in it its depiction of Christianity and Muslim crusades, this stuck with me. "How can you be dead when you're in my heart?" I think of the way papa David reacted to Saul and his son Jonathans death. He told the people, do not scorn the king, for he was God's Elect. I promise the Lord will keep his to you and your father. As he did even mine. My father was flawed, but not enough to shun Jesus from his own gift. Grace, to his Children. And children. God bless you my sweet sweet brother. I love you so much.
Merry Christmas to you and yours!
I don't know why nobody is talking about the book Your Life Your Game by Keezano. I read it last year, and it’s an excellent Catholic religious book. It beautifully shows how connecting with God and building meaningful relationships can lead to spiritual growth and success in both your personal and professional life. Thank you Lord 💟
thanks, l found it
The Godless abomination of catholicism has nothing whatsoever to do with the truth or the Christianity of the Bible. Repent!
Lord Jesus give me strength this Christmas. I keep faith even as I struggle as a single mother. Faith is all I have left. Both of my sons have special needs. They require so much from me. Lord Jesus give me strength as I struggle providing the basic necessities like clothing and groceries. Lord Jesus please continue to carry me through this difficult time help me provide for my children. Amen.💕
Interesting thing about Michael and the angels in his army fighting and defeating the red dragon and the angels who joined him is that it goes to show that Satan is no more powerful than any of the other angels. The Lord could in half a second defeat Satan with but a word, but I think His letting the holy angels defeat the fallen angels, it is to prove a lot of points regarding the angels, and to send a message to Satan that he can't even win against fellow angels who maintained their estate in the Kingdom.
Jesus inherited the title deed to the universe, as expressed by the 7-sealed scroll that He shall open. From thence, He also shows that He bought everything back by claiming His rightful throne. The Millennial Reign shall be but a prequel to displaying what eternity shall be like. It's really cool stuff, all by plan and design.
I grew up Baptist then I went to some non-denominational churches, and then I found myself in a charismatic church, and then I finally found myself in a reformed church, which I seem to have found more truth in teaching than the other churches that I’ve been to, but I still do not agree with everything that they have and hold true to like pedo baptism. Thank you for all that you do. Thank you for studying the scriptures before you speak. There may be a few things that I don’t agree with you on, but I may agree with you later on about or you may change your mind about that’s the beautiful thing about the living Word and the Holy Spirit.
Thank you, Mike. The things people make up about Jesus truly sickens me.
Everything about Jesus is made up
Welcome to reality 🎉
Like Jesus being God?
@ You haven’t read His words or John 1?
Jesus never says he is God. False Christians misinterpret his words based on the false doctrine they have chosen to accept. Then they make up excuses to explain away the statements that indicate he is not God and those that state he is not equal to God.
Then you aren't actually reading the words. Notice, in Hebrews 1:4 Mike ignores the word "becomes" which brings the most impact to that scripture.
At 00:51, we shouldn't bear false witness, brother Mike. How about a citation for your Spurgeon quote? 🤔
So you're assuming Mike is bearing false witness then correct? You don't know if it's true but you're already accusing Mike of being a liar... be careful
Do you have proof, @Scullans ? If so, I will repent. Seriously. But the fact of the matter is that not only haven't I heard that -- I can't seem to find a source for the alleged quote.
Would you happen to know where Mike got this?
Where is Spurgeon quoted to say Michael is Jesus? I can’t find the quote anywhere and would appreciate the source. Thanks!
@@danielpunkay9044 commenting for this too!
From “The Blood of the Lamb, The Conquering Weapon” (Sept. 9, 1888):
“By faith we rise into the conquering place this day. In the heavenlies we triumph, as also in every place. We rejoice in our Lord Jesus Christ, the Michael of the angels, the Redeemer of men. For by Him we see Satan cast out and all the powers of evil hurled from their places of power and eminence.”
From “Our Lord’s Transcendent Greatness” (Dec. 2, 1866):
You remember how our Lord, who is the true Michael, the only great Archangel, said at the beginning of the preaching of the Gospel, “I beheld Satan as lightning falling from Heaven.”
From “The Angelic Life” (Nov. 22, 1868):
“We read that Michael and his angels fought against the dragon and his angels, and the dragon was cast down. The fight is going on every day. Michael is the Lord Jesus, the only Archangel.”
If that were all, perhaps the group might be justified in their claim that at least Spurgeon believed this. But then I found the following, Spurgeon’s commentary on Jude 9, a passage which specifically mentions Michael: But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, was disputing about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.” Here it is clear that Spurgeon did see a distinction in the identities of Christ and Michael, for he puts forth a lesson regarding the created angel Michael as well as the “great Doctrine of angels watching over the bones of the saints.”
From “The Resurrection of the Dead” (Feb. 17, 1856):
“There is a remarkable passage in Jude, where it speaks of Michael the Archangel contending with the devil about the body of Moses and using no “railing accusation.” Now, this refers to the great Doctrine of angels watching over the bones of the saints. Certainly it tells us that the body of Moses was watched over by a great archangel. The devil thought to disturb that body but Michael contended with him about it. Now would there be a contention about that body if it had been of no value? Would Michael contend for that which was only to be the food of worms? Would he wrestle with the enemy for that which was to be scattered to the four winds of Heaven, never to be united again into a new and goodlier fabric? No. Assuredly not! From this we learn that an angel watches over every tomb. It is no fiction, when on the marble we carve the cherubs with their wings. There are cherubs with outstretched wings over the head of the gravestones of all the righteous. Yes, and where “the rude forefathers of the hamlet sleep,” in some nook overgrown by nettles, there an angel stands night and day to watch each bone and guard each atom, that at the resurrection, those bodies, with more glory than they had on earth, may start up to dwell forever with the Lord! The guardianship of the bodies of the saints by angels proves that they shall rise again from the dead!”
QUESTION 🙋🏻♀️: I still don’t understand how we go from the Acts Church very humble beginning to the very BOLD DECADENT AND all the bells and whistles of the Catholic Church? At which point was that HUGE leap made? Please do a church history or point me to one Ty 😊
Hi new here I think I stumbled upon your channel by way of Allen parr. Absolutely love your teaching it’s opened my eyes so much!
Hi! Always happy to meet new comers. If you go to the Bible Thinker youtube channel you can find just about anything. I'm pretty sure that Mike has what you are looking for. I know he has several videos on Catholism.
Thanks, great teaching!
Dan 12:1 is the verse that really seems to imply His role of deliverer. I can see the difficulty in dismissing the Wesley argument
But nobody complains of The ANGEL of the LORD being in the same breath as Jesus because every Bible Scholar in the New Testament says that the ANGEL of the LORD is the pre-incarnate Jesus because apparently both receive worship. Help me make sense of this.
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
Archangel means Ruler of Angels. it does not imply that he is created. Jesus as God is the Ruler of Angels.
Excellent
Man, I clicked the “notify me” button and didn’t get notified… lame
Me 2
I usually get notified WELL after it's already started.
@@BigMamaMyers same thing used to happen with another channel I watch… they moved to rumble and I get notifications on time there. Political channel so I won’t mention who it is here.
1:07:13 - doesn’t the Branch of David, who will arise *with* the Interpreter of the Law make it sound like the Interpreter is the Holy Spirit? Or am I way off the mark here?
Hey Mike, you probably wont see this comment but if by chance you do, do you believe that Jesus was the Angel of the LORD or Angel of YHWH in the Old Testament that spoke to the patriarchs and would speak as God in first person?
Yes. I do. Here’s a video where I go through many examples and reasons for that view. ruclips.net/video/ryCyQ4N08Q0/видео.htmlsi=jOda2b4KIg12ULOS
@@MikeWinger Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus.
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27
AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
I saw a window cleaning truck at the local kingdom hall last week crazy thing is that makes more sense then there micheal teaching
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
@@Mr.DC.1914.1 You can copy and paste this as many times as you want, Mike clearly refuted this in the video, and all of scripture refutes this. Jesus is GOD, not an angel.
@@ReformedMickey so you think ANOTHER angel is RESPONSIBLE for SAVING PEOPLE AND RAISING THEM up from the Dead and that this Angel IS GREATER than Jesus AS SAR. Dan 12. really?
@@ReformedMickey Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus.
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27
AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
@@Mr.DC.1914.1 No, the Angel of the Lord is clearly God, but not god the father, nor god the holy spirit. That leaves one option, Jesus. The angle of the lord is never called an archangel. THE angel of the lord is a unique being. Mike gives all the right answers in this video about that.
i am confronted alot by a coworker that is JW and so it has really promoted me to study and seek out scripture that is the truth and I showed him these exact verses in hebrews. However I am really struggling with how to show him the truth about the trinity. It was very close to him making fun of me for beleving that Jesus and God are the same. so keep me in prayers for witnessing the truth to the JW's I work with
Read john 17 slowly and you'll see why the trinity makes perfect sense
You'll never convince a jw of that. Simply because they don't believe God died when Jesus died. Because God raised him up.
Instead to put a jw in their place. Prove 607,1914 is wrong. Which you can with the Bible
Or ask if they are so different from the world why do they have a massive child abuse problem?
Or ask why they shun. People until they take their own lives. Like their leader Stephen Lett who's nephew ended his life because of shunning.
I've had some success with JW's and Muslims by explaining it this way. We are made in the image of God, we are body, mind and spirit, all truly different and yet all truly one. I am 3 in one, why can't God who is greater than I be similarly and yet better?
God love you Mike,you are doing a great job and I love learning from your teaching method just say it as it is in bible,learned so much through the years,why do they keep adding ridiculousness,those JWs are crazy just like Mormonism,Catholicism!Just read and believe what is written with nothing else!!!🙏💗🇬🇧
@@Tintin17Nick-wq4hf AMEN!!
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
Probably shouldn't skip He. 1:1-3.
vs. 1,2 shows that in the past, God used the prophets to speak to his people.
But now, God uses Jesus to speak to his people.
God appointed Jesus.
And God exalted Jesus to his right hand.
That's two individuals. One is God, the other is Jesus.
But let's focus on vs. 2. Jesus is the messenger for God.
The word angel is a title. It means messenger. It even applies to humans.
1 Th. 4:16 - the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel's voice...
Archangel is word 743 and means chief of the angels.
Or chief messenger! 😮
Jo. 1:1 calls Jesus the word. Why?
Jo. 3:16 says God sent Jesus.
And He. 1:2 says Jesus is the spokesman for God.
Michael and HIS angels...
Whose angels?
Mt. 16:27 - ...the son of man... with HIS angels...
Mt. 24:31 - And he will send out HIS angels with a great trumpet sound
Mt. 25:31 - ... the son of man... and all the angels with him...
2 Th. 1:7 - ... the Lord Jesus from heaven with HIS powerful angels.
Re. 1:10 - ...and I heard behind me a strong voice like that of a trumpet,
(Yep, Jesus' voice.)
Good list...
Verse 2 also explains clearly, Jesus was used by God to create. God is the creator.
Jesus was his master workman, his agent in creation.
Jesus himself tells us who the creator is when he spoke of Adam and Eve:
"Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,.."
That HE which made them.
Jesus was there, I'm pretty sure he knows who is the creator.
"He's God the second person" as Mike says is complete fiction.
Hi,
Daniel 10:13 clearly refers to Michael as ONE OF the chief princes. It's there in black and white. He is AN archangel, not THE archangel.
In Jude's short epistle, both Jesus and Michael are referred to within a few verses of each other but the writer does not identify them as one. Why not?
If Jesus is a created being, then why does he share WORSHIP with the one seated on the throne in Revelation chapter 5?
If you would be kind enough to address THESE scriptures I would be grateful. Thanks.
@This.Island.Earth68 One of the Chief Princes, (or a prince of the first rank).. it doesn't say "one of the Archangels".
Though it does say in Daniel that Michael is Daniel's prince, which is interesting.
Especially as Michael "stands up" at the "time of distress that there had not been since a nation existed up to that time;"...
Which sounds familiar right?
When Michael stands up, "at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book"..
Compare Matt24, the sign of Christ's coming:
21"For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened."
So, at the time of the greatest tribulation ever, Michael the great prince "stands up" and at the same time, Jesus the prince of peace comes against Satan's world.
The days are cut short on both occasions to save the "elect"...
They both come "with their angels".
When Michael comes "many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt."..
Yet, who's voice calls them?
Joh5:28,29 tells us it's Jesus' voice... and they awake "unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment"
What does 1thess4:16 describe Jesus voice as again? And does what?
@This.Island.Earth68 One of the Chief Princes, (or a prince of the first rank).. it doesn't say "one of the Archangels".
Though it does say in Daniel that Michael is Daniel's prince, which is interesting.
Especially as Michael "stands up" at the "time of distress that there had not been since a nation existed up to that time;"...
Which sounds familiar right?
When Michael stands up, "at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book"..
Compare Matt24, the sign of Christ's coming:
21"For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened."....
So, at the time of the greatest tribulation ever, Michael the great prince "stands up" and at the same time, Jesus the prince of peace comes against Satan's world.
The days are cut short on both occasions to save the "elect"...
They both come "with their angels".
When Michael comes "many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt."..
Yet, who's voice calls them?
Joh5:28,29 tells us it's Jesus' voice... and they awake "unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment"
What does 1thess4:16 describe Jesus voice as again? And does what?
Father God I know you will make a way for my sons. As a single mother I feel so alone. Lord I know my faith will get me through my hardships I’ve been facing with my sons as a single mother. Both of are special needs and require much from me. Lord I’m trusting your plan so as I struggle financially to provide for my children give me strength and you grace.
I will say a prayer for you and your family. God bless you all stay true and the world will not win. Merry Christmas and Jesus loves you all.
Hebrews 2:16 alone totally destroys any notion that Jesus even might be Michael the Archangel:
Hebrews 2:16 KJVS
For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
This Scripture clearly says Jesus did not become an angel but he became a man.
If Jesus was already an angel, this Scripture wouldn't make any sense.
God Bless
Always love one verse prooftexts.
Unfortunately, you've fallen into the trap of reading modern meanings into the archaic text of the KJV. Get yourself an NKJV, at least.
I think even with the KJV the principle message still comes through when contextually understanding the implications being brought forth from what the author of Hebrews is stating about Jesus not being an angelic being but becoming Man. It exposes the reality that Jesus went forth and completed His mission to redeem mankind taking on human flesh that He may be a representative of us to purchase us from sin, death, the grave; this truth is the fulfillment of the kinsman redeemer type as well as the high priest type as well as the perfect sacrifice type. This is to say that we do not know of redemption for fallen angels being that hell was created for Satan and those who fell with him. If we were to say that Jesus became an angel then His perfect work would have also redeemed them as well, but this is not the case according to scripture.
This is just exposing the implications of the thought that Jesus is Michael the Archangel; however, I do think that we can gain the best perspective by viewing the worship and exaltation of the Angel of the Lord as opposed to the few times Michael is mentioned in the scriptures to see if he is perceived and/or received in the same manner.
I have never, ever heard Michael being equated with Jesus.
You have now.
Standard teaching from Watchtower and SDA.
I agree with you Mike Winger but my only concern is: who is the angel of the Lord? I agree that Jesus is not an angel but then I get semi conflicted mentally when I know that angel means messenger and also that an angel of the Lord exists. So we know Jesus has a higher name than the angels but there is an angel of the Lord - does this mean he has his own personal Angel with him?
@@Gardentrellis the angel of the Lord is YHWH. Dr. Michael Heiser and Doug Van Dorn have excellent teachings on the angel of the Lord.
@graybillythekid although the Angel of YHWH/Jehovah/Yahweh asks Jehovah a question... which makes no sense if they are one in the same...
Zech1:12 "Then the angel of Jehovah answered and said, O Jehovah of hosts, how long wilt thou not have mercy on Jerusalem and on the cities of Judah, against which thou hast had indignation these threescore and ten years?"
"Even the Messenger of the Covenant"
@@JonnyDoe-k1k by this logic, when Jesus spoke to God the father who was he speaking to?
@thagreatone402 By which logic?
When Jesus spoke to God the Father he was speaking to his God and Father.
Michael is the Archangel standing up for the nation of Israel
According to the Bible Michael the arc angel is the protector of Israel. Strange how so called christian teachers twist the truth into lies. The Gospel, the new covenant is Jesus Crist. A child knows that but we have the enemy trying to question our belief. Praying we all will receive the gift of having faith like a child, simpel and fully trusting. Always with our attention on His presense through His Holy Spirit. God bless you and yours, ❤Norway 🙏⭐️
I really like the comment about Jesus inheriting. That made sense to me Jesus came as man lower than angels as humankind is and with his death resurrection inherited the right as the second Adam to the whole universe that Adam lost to Satan. This inheritance is Jesus's experienced as man not his deity or GOD.
Hallelujah. Trust God when you pray it works. He said all we need to do is ask in prayers. My testimony spans from penury to $27,000 weekly, and you stayand doubt that he doesn't answer prayers. Make that altar now and spend time there. A change is on the way. Amen!!!
I can't even afford to provide Christmas for my 3 children. So there is no chance of us preparing for anything crazy to come. I pray and ask the lord to take my fear of this and I pray for the lord to make a way to provide in ways I cant. I homeschool my kids and my husband is the only financial income coming in and most months we make just enough to cover our bills. Lord please take my fear of this and my fear of not making ends meet. You know my heart God and I trust that you will get us through. Amen.
But How do you do this? What do you do to have that much in that period?
It is simply by digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US amd abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus
Big thanks to Ms Teresa Alice Brenda
Her top notch guidance and expertise on digital market changed the game for me
Jesus Is lord, all things that are were created by him, for him...
18:40 In Zechariah 3:2, the name YHWH is mentioned 3 times. I do not think that to be an accident.
DEUT 6:4 JEHOVAH IS ONE JEHOVAH and NOT Three Jehovah/YHWH
When you don't want your sins and unbelief exposed the way to do so is to demote Jesus.
If we say Michael is a metaphor for Jesus is to say He was created? Maybe u could show me where Michael was created so I could better understand. Seems ur speaking from a presupposition, respectfully speaking.
Correct me if I’m wrong but wouldn’t it be easy enough to say that angels are created beings?
@ it would be adding to the text. When God said the heavenly host were created He was talking about the Sun, Moon, n Stars. It doesn’t mention the creation of Cherubim or Seraphim. So that would be an assumption if we’re logically speaking.
Immanuel is called the everlasting Father in Isiah. Jesus said that He came from the Father. Jesus said that you have to honor the Son even as you honor the Father or you don't honor the Father who sent the Son. Cults say that Jesus was created and they won't make it
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus.
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27
AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
Thank you for the great video. It will help in discussions with a friend of mine.
Two interesting points on this great video/discussion.
Short point first, On the subject of science and the universe, I watched a great video today on 'Daily Dose of Wisdom' with an astrophysicist that actually discussed that for a bit (Astrophysicist Explains Dozens of Reasons to Believe in God). It was well spoken and reasoned (and explained a bit of the physics side I didn't have a good picture of). His current studies about antimatter is interesting, too, hahaha.
Second was on the matter of Jesus gaining authority by way of the cross. I believe I first heard it at a yearly Week-long meeting the church denomination I'm member of used to hold in Central South Carolina around the start of July.
Mike touched on it in this video, that man was given dominion over the earth.
The preacher presented the picture of seats of authority, and Whoever is in the seat, has the authority. God creates earth, and presents the seat of dominion to Adam, who through sin, vacates it, leaving it empty, and satan 'hops' into the seat of authority.
When Jesus is tempted by satan in the Wilderness, he is offered 'all before him' - he 'sits' in the seat of authority, and is offering it to Jesus in attempt to derail God's plan (that he only knows elements of, but not details). By the Sacrifice, and Resurrection The authority and power of Death and the Grave are broken by Jesus.
My assumption is the 'seat' of earth's authority was either reclaimed at the resurrection, or is waiting until His return. Either way, His name holds power over all on the earth. Whether our own authority in His name is little or much I would imagine lays at least in part in how closely we walk in the footsteps the Lord prepares for us.
The brief moment about boldness at about 00:42:20 is the third time today I have encountered encouragement to be bold in sharing the Word. The second was a video on RuslanKD's second channel about an old video clip. The third was an ad for a church in Arizona as part of a series on Living Sacrifice points out that John the Baptist was appraised highly, in part as he was able to reveal the Christ, the 'Privileged Information' of 'The Lamb of God that takes away the Sin of the World' yet we have that testimony and more! Even if it's only that Jesus died to cover for the sins of All.
We need not be afraid or ashamed of the Good News of Salvation from sin and death by God through Jesus Christ.
I see a new video in the Hebrews series, I click! But I can’t seem to see a Part 3… ?
Can God die ?...Jesus died !....no man has seen God...at any time...how many Gods are there.?...deu 6:4...did God...leave heaven?...the Father is greater than Jesus...how many levels of the true God are there...all praise goes to YHWH...Jesus is the door to the one true God...! Peter said jesus was the messiah...not God.. !
Saying Jesus is Michael doesn’t have to mean Jesus is a created being. No where in the Bible does it say angel means created being, the word angel is from the Greek word “messenger”. Can we say Jesus is a messenger, does “messenger” have to mean “created being”?
The qoutes you are using can be looked at in another way that makes them very clear.
There are several ways to evidence it in the Bible. One very simple way is that the word Michael means “one who is as God is”. What does the Bible say Satans sin in heaven started as:
I will make myself like the Most High. (Isaiah 14:14)
So Satan wanted to be as God is, which means he wanted to be Michael (as that is what that name means). So Satan, the highest of all created beings sinned by wanting to be what Michael was (one who is as God is)
I have a couple questions. What does the hebrew name Michael mean? and angel means messenger, so where in the Bible does it say that Michael was a created being? Also, I don't listen to non-scripture, so some random text about multiple arch angels mean zip
“Some random text”
You know that even the disciples quoted Enoch and other non biblical books, right?
The Jude passage puts the nail in the coffin in this argument!
Michael passes rebuking of Satan over to God / Jesus regularly rebukes Satan throughout scripture.
Jesus = God
Jesus > Michael
Good work Mike!!!
You are 100% wrong and have no understanding of the truth of the Bible. You only understand the antichrist christianity of the apostate church. Repent!
I really hope that you address some of the things I've heard from other teachers and podcasters. I've heard some people who maintain that Jesus was Michael the archangel in his preincarnate state, but that he was always a part of the Trinity. So they maintain that Michael was the second person of the Trinity before the incarnation and that Jesus is just the name he had while he was incarnate. I really hoping you address that because it's something that I've heard from someone and it's fundamentally different from Jehovah's witnesses, because they maintained that Jesus is form and function are consistent, and the only thing that changed was his name
Compare the description of Jesus in Revelation 1:12-16 with the speaker in Daniel 10:5-6. The features match almost exactly. This speaker in Daniel 10 says in verse 13, "Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me." If the speaker is Jesus, then Michael is helping Jesus and therefore cannot be Jesus. Another thing to consider is Daniel 12:1. It says Michael will stand for Israel in the last days. If Michael's name was changed to Jesus, then why is Michael being called Michael in the last days? We see the same in Revelation 12. Michael fighting the devil and his angels, not Jesus. If Michael is Jesus in the New Testament, then why does it say Michael is fighting?
Just admit that you are JW lol 😆
@@BruceBainsford who, me? Absolutely not. I heard an Evangelical make these claims and I'm hoping Mike refutes them. I'm staunchly anti JW
I've heard Mike argue that the phrase “ANGEL of the LORD” in the Old Testament represents Jesus. Many people make that claim.
Take Exodus 14:9, for instance. Mike may speculate that the unnamed “angel of the LORD” could signify Jesus, yet he seems to dismiss the idea that a named Archangel-whose name translates to chief, leader, or ruler of the angels-could represent him.
It just doesn’t add up!
Where did all the prophets go that could receive revelation? This revelation could tell us who Michael is. The Savior in Ephesians said we need Apostles and Prophets to bring us to a unity. Obviously we are not unified after listening. to Mike.
You have spoken in ignorance. There are no more prophets since Jesus and now that the world has all of the words of God, the 66 books of the Bible, there is NO need for any further revelation.
The Bible clearly tells us that Michael is Jesus! Anyone who tells you different, is NOT a Christian.
That's a Jehovah's Witness thing mostly but there are some cults of "Christianity " that dont believe Jesus is God or in the trinity will say it too
The truth was known well before the JW doctrine was established.
How come you can say the angel of the Lord is Jesus, but when people say the archangel of the Lord is the same angel of the Lord revealing himself.
If angel of the Lord is Jesus, I will also be open to say the archangel of the Lord is the same Lord. It is not dimishing Jesus to a created being, but saying the same angel of the Lord in the old testament is called Michael too.
Angel of the Lord is YHWH
@@graybillythekid The ANGEL is NOT the LORD, an ANGEL is a creation
Mike Winger have you seen the pattern that Old Testament mostly deals with angel dominion, new testament deals with human dominion? It is interesting, and if one does a close study of angels mentioned in Revelation, like the one in Ch 8 who receives the prayers of the saints and offers them to the Father, that “angel” is Christ.
As one who believes most of Revelation was dealing with the close of the old covenant age (leading to AD70), it makes sense why angels are mentioned heavily here (including Christ as an “angel” with Godly/intercessory powers, but also as all the other symbolic figures he reps: metal men, lamb, warrior on a horse, etc.) as the cosmic order shifts from angellic dominion to man-hence we see saints encircling God at the thrones instead of previously the angels.
So OT, “Angel of the Lord” and “Michael” are old covenant age names for the divine Logos, and then “Jesus” or “Christ” are new covenant age names for the incarnate Logos. But ill give this a listen. 👍🏽
Interesting theorem. I would have to see all of the relevant scripture to be convinced, though.
@ there are many passages, but of course, it may take some time to train one’s eye to adjust. It helps getting some study in biblical Symbolism from Re-Enchant Reformers or EO’s. Sounds sketch, but they offer some useful instruction in being able to see biblical patterns and interpret rich symbolism in scripture beyond just the main things most Protestants are taught about Jesus typology.
@jasahdstewart Do you have any specific passages off the top of your head?
@@Dee-nonamnamrson8718 i gave Rev ch 8 (vs4) regarding the “angel” taking the prayers of the saints and offering them up to God (the Father). Just keep an eye. Also Rev 14:8 what “angel” has authority over the “fire of the altar “ (the Holy Spirit)? Jesus, which is called an angel in this vision.
@jasahdstewart Thank you for taking the time! I'll definitely read through it.
I would also ask to see a scripture that says cherubim n seraphim are angels
I never get an answer to this question which I find suspect. But if I’m just going by the scriptures, angels always seem to be men. I’ve heard people make assumptions, the examples always show men, never winged creatures like cherubim & seraphim.
Preincarnet Jesus as Michael is "safe theology." ❤❤❤
Jesus is of the Godhead. And when Michael stands up there is a resurrection. Only God can do that. Interesting video!
Mike, I think you’re missing the context of Hebrews 1.
God is talking about how Jesus became better than the angels, by making a purification for mankind and sat down at the right hand of God (Verse 3) and “became” better than the angels and inherited a “name,” something that he didn’t have. Verse 5, by opening with “For,” shows here when he “inherited” the “name” he didn’t have before. “Today, I have become your father” highlights the resurrection, when Jesus sat down at the right hand of majesty. (Psalm 110:1) For to which one of the angels did God ever say this? To sit at my right hand, be resurrected, receive this “name”, to recieve this authority? Jesus was better than the angels in this, not the fact that he wasn’t an angel! When did God say that to any of the angels? Why? Christ became “lower than the angels,” (Ps. 8:5) he was the “last Adam,” so when God resurrected him He was resurrecting someone who died as a man. God in this verse wasn’t saying this to an angel who materialised as a man and who died, he said it to someone who was not an angel at all or God or spirit, he was a man whilst on earth. (1 Tim. 2:5)
Because of dying in faithfulness like no angel has or can, God resurrected Jesus and made him “better than the angels,” not because of his nature, not because he shares one eternal divine nature better than the angels. It’ doesn’t say that, it says because he got a better “name,” he didn’t have it before. He “inherited” it, God gave it to him. (1 Cor. 15:45) Otherwise, if God only says the statement of himself being the father of the son only, then where would that leave the angels? If God isn’t their father, then who is? This highlights that Jesus position as an angel doesn’t stop him from being identified as God’s son.
saw a few in the comments saying Jesus is Michael but as per usual for such nonsense they don't give a single argument for that, let alone countering Mikes points, and instead they just scream condemnation all the louder.
Could it be argued that Michael is referred to as the chief of princes, while Revelation 19:16 describes Christ as "King of Kings, and Lord of Lords," indicating a clear distinction in hierarchy?
In Isa 9:6 it uses the word SAR for Jesus and SAR (translated as Prince can also mean in Hebrew as PATRON ANGEL) which is the EXACT same word used in Dan 12:1 for the Archangel who is called the GREAT SAR, Pls tell if another angel is GREATER (another meaning of that word) than Jesus as SAR? What will this archangel do in Dan 12:1-2. he WILL STAND UP for GOD's people? what was the result after he did that? those people escaped, the ones in the book of life, and the resurrection followed. You think another angel is responsible for those (resurrection and saving people) ? and you think that that archangel just STAND UP AND DID NOTHING? Jesus will also STAND UP for GOD's people acc to Micah 5:4. Did he do nothing?
@@Mr.DC.1914.1 The Bible describes Jesus as having ultimate authority over all angels, including Michael:
1 Peter 3:22: "Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him."
Hebrews 1:6: "And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him."
@@rebuildspirit did you read my questions in Dan 12? If that ARCHANGEL is A DIFFERENT person, and called GREAT SAR(greatest) so for you another angel is greater than Jesus as SAR and will RESURRECT the dead
@@Mr.DC.1914.1 Daniel 12:1 refers to Michael as a 'great prince' who stands for Israel, not as God or the ultimate authority. Resurrection power is attributed exclusively to Christ in verses like John 11:25-26 and John 5:28-29, where it is His voice that raises the dead. Michael is a powerful angel, but Jesus is the Creator of all angels (Colossians 1:16) and is worshiped as King of Kings (Revelation 19:16). The two roles are distinct, and Christ is far above any angel in authority and divinity.
@@rebuildspirit Dan 12:1-2 , that archangel will SAVE people and RAISE THE DEAD. and it is called GREAT - (hebrew means GREATEST) SAR, so for you another angel is GREATER than Jesus and is responsible for raising up the dead
Hey @MikeWinger do you rhink those thst don't believe in the trinity (Unitarians) aren't saved? I believe in the trinity but been told from other Christians who believe he was only fully man but is the Son of God and savior thst I'm not saved because I believe Jesus is God.
10 And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem which is the land of our forefathers, she being a virgin, a precious and chosen vessel, who shall be overshadowed and conceive by the power of the Holy Ghost, and bring forth a son, yea, even the Son of God.
The Jewish form of Michael is my surname, and to add more, my father’s kin‘s main physical features,( the eyes colour the hair colour, the eyebrows, the nostrils shape) are the same as, those of JESUS in the letter of Pontius Pilate’s wife, and like those of the shroud of Turin, ( only the hair colour which was cender shade of blonde,and not red, or hazelnut shade like JESUS is described to have had, and because of the cold temperatures in my country their skin was not tanned at all but cold white) and like Thranduil the king of the elves( which are supposed to be angels). I know one thing for sure randomness doesn’t exist! GOD makes everything with purpose! I am very blessed to have anything that come close to anything JESUS had as a man, I feel beyond graced, and very humbled by HIS grace, especially that my father and his father looked like the imagine which we have of JESUS, not only in colours but also the shapes and details distances on the face, which I will be true brings so much happiness to my heart! Above all I am a happy servant of the LORD JESUS CHRIST THE ONE TRUE GOD! For a long time I believed too that JESUS is Archangel Michael but now maybe I will research more before I say that with certainty! Because if you spell my surname backwards is almost ELOHIM, only one letter is different ! All this non coincidence facts that GOD perfectly webbed in my destiny together with all that the BIBLE says about Archangel Michael made me believe that it might be also a sign that JESUS was in heaven Archangel Michael!
TRUTH.
@Mike 19:38 have you looked into the interpretation that the body of Moses was the body of Israel he cared for (a type of Christ as head over the body of his church). So why would a mere angel be fighting Satan for this “body” of people? Its Gotta be Jesus/Michael fighting over the body of Moses, like Jesus fights over the body of his Bride in the New Covenant Age.
Michael the Archangel fights primarily for Israel