Gojo vs Sukuna is MUCH Deeper Than You Think
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
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I've noticed some areas of the video that could've been better communicated so I want to include this as a pinned comment for clarfication. If there is anything else you would like to be further explained, please reply to this comment & I'll try my best to elaborate.
Extra thoughts on 42:40 - Sukuna's domain being described as revolutionary through artistic terms is significant for this comparison, because modernism as a revolution is reflected in various art forms. And along with this parallel, it also carries the inherent limitations of modernism. The symbolic Shrine within the domain is representative of the Establishment, which is a term used to describe the influential or the authoritative group of any era. In this case, the authoritative group of the era would be religious insitutions. Couple this with how Malevolent Shrine has no barrier; it offers you a very simple escape path, which is probably your best bet to survive the domain, since you can't fight back against Cleave as it adapts to your toughness. The domain literally gives you a path, and if you don't adhere to it, you are punished. This is entirely reminiscent of how the Establishment itself functions. If you don't adhere to its given path, you are disqualified in its eyes; hence modernism attempting to be a revolution against the Establishment but having some inherent limitations in its largely rigid views on certain things. In a lot of contexts, the Establishment IS the Roman Catholic Church, hence Sukuna, the representation of modernism, being regarded as the Fallen One by Angel.
Regarding the segment about subjective experiences shaping the reality of characters, Gojo is an obvious example, and I figured it also extends to Jogo and Kashimo considering the similarity in the deaths of all three characters. But I should probably explain it more explicitly. I said in the video that Jogo's vision might be fake. And since Kashimo's vision was shown, many people think Jogo's couldn't possibly be fake. The thing is, Kashimo's vision doesn't seem exceedingly “real” either. They shift landscapes twice, Kashimo goes from looking like an old man to his young self, etc. The only constant is Sukuna, much like in the Jogo scene. What you have to keep in mind is that even in the Jogo vision, what Sukuna was saying, except for the bit about reaching Gojo's heights, entirely makes sense for Sukuna's character. Burning away everything that you don't like, being true only to yourself and not to anything so vague as “becoming human”, that sounds entirely like Sukuna's ideology. Much like what Sukuna told Kashimo. In both the scenes whose authenticity is quite intentionally called into question via their framing & presentation, the only constant is Sukuna's character. Considering what I've said about the status of Sukuna as a deity who is independent of subjective perceptions, the fact that his character cuts through the ambiguity of the death visions of characters only makes perfect sense. You can think that Jogo and Kashimo scenes actually happened. Like I say in the video, it doesn't matter. The subjective experiences of Jogo and Kashimo shape their respective realities as they die; Sukuna's character remaining constant, Sukuna's character pervading someone's subjective experience, only adds to Sukuna's characterization.
This is easily top 5 best analysis videos I've ever seen on RUclips.. and I've watched FNAF lore vids..W vid bro
Only problem with this video is you said gojo is a natural influence while sukuna is a unnatural force yet it seem sukuna is more natural to the verse than explain how gojo is more forcing in the verse than sukuna. Minus how yuta and being for people is a natural force to sukuna
What about Sukuna's mentality you mentioned? It does not make sense for him... Especially after Gojo vs 10S (Meguna).
@@Tojiii it does since he didn’t want to simply beat Gojo since he could already do that
The whole fight was to improve an ability
@@thebigdoginthisbitch4733 I thought he said in the video that Sukuna's mentality is fighting for yourself. But, during Gojo vs 10S (Meguna), Sukuna relies and needs someone else's help. Such as Megumi soul, memories, face, and technique... Megumi quite literally needed Megumi's soul for Gojo's DE. He needed Gojo's memories so that he could know all Gojo's techniques secrets. He needed Megumi's face to play a role when Gojo went to hit him he'd see Megumi's face which is basically someone he raised. Also, he needed Megumi's technique so that he could copy Mahoraga...
Narrator: And so, Satoru Gojo, died an ordinary death...
Sukuna: You were magnificent, Satoru Gojo.
Narrator: As I was saying, he was magnificent and died a magnificent death.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
Gege in a shellnut 😂
I love how Gojo stans cry about Sukuna
@@thebigdoginthisbitch4733 sukuna stans do the same shit 💀
@@thebigdoginthisbitch4733both of the fans base crying like babies just accept the facts the fight wasn’t fair but still Sukuna would win !!
I still cant get over how gege times gojo's death to be the SAME WEEK as him getting sealed in the anime. Truly the meme lord we deserve.
If you’re going off of that then Gojo will return
@@MindlessMenace he won't it's just funny he got sealed on the same week. Correlation doesn't mean causation. Though he could have done it on purpose I seriously doubt he'd ring him back especially that far down the line since it'll be years b4 we get the return animated
imagine gege brings him back when he comes back in the anime 💀
@@FlawsomE999 honestly, possible. Unless Kenny dies, I really do not see our cast defeating Sukuna or Kenny's curse. I just do not at all.
Their level of understanding of CE and CTs is just not at the necessary level to do much right now.
@@MindlessMenacewould find it funny if by some unlikely way sukuna or kenjaku get defeated when gojo dies in anime
I just love how the "Are you strong because you're Gojo or are you Gojo because you're strong?" was such a mindfuck for Gojo but Sukuna doesn't even care when asked the same question
They’re not in the same league is why Gojo is tethered to his earthly attachments and deprivation of being understood with not having people on his level. Sukuna may be arrogant but he’s like a king of war who’s priorities lie in constant improvement of strength and conquest with no care for how people view him
honestly sukuna would just reply "I am the strongest because I am sukuna, and I am sukuna, because I am the strongest"
@@Masakrealm He leads the kind of existence where even doing nothing, so long as that's his whim, for lengths of time unimaginable to regular people would tickle his fancy in the greatest sense. There is no disappointment for him to find where others would think it would be, because at the top there is nothing but Sukuna, and what Sukuna wants. So what if it's the same thing a million times? Sukuna declares what is the truth at the top, and that isn't a factor. It's so simple, and at the same time it's entirely out of reach. Just like Nirvana.
that's so fucking weird how people think this is deep
brain rot kaisen
Thats because Gojo is still human, Sukuna denied that part of him long ago
Just want to say Sukuna didn’t kill Mimiko and Nanako because their offering wasn’t enough. He killed them because they expected him to do something for them in exchange for a finger. That’s not how you ask a local deity for a favor.
This whole comment is like saying sukuna didn’t cut gojo in half because he wanted to, he cut gojo in half because he wanted to.
@@Yuri10475 no, because you’re implying it doesn’t matter why he did it, but it does for understanding his character. He didn’t kill them on a whim he killed them because he felt disrespected
@@Yuri10475that sounds like a dragon lord line
@@Yuri10475 Or maybe you need to read it again.
Agree. Gege stated Sukuna of Jjk is a direct implementation of God of Calamity and War Sukuna.
Gojo vs Sukuna did not only split Gojo in half but also the fanbase.
The true universal dismantle
Take it back
@@hypernova9215I mean, he's not wrong.
Even though it hurts so bad its so true rip
😭😭😭 a 1/2 a year too soon
I just realized that Gojo in 1st half was adapting to Sukuna’s DE while Sukuna was adapting to Gojo’s CT. You could infer that Gojo was merely targeting Sukuna’s strongest ability as the strongest in history while Sukuna was targetting Gojo’s whole range of abilities. Seeing Gojo for everything he was, a sorcerer.
I think you summarized it really well
you forgot gojo's 2 other half
@@abdimuhaymanhassan6013cringe
@@dachristiangamerliterally
@@abdimuhaymanhassan6013we get it he’s dead, now add to the discussion
man, what a fucking banger this has turned out to be. so glad to have worked with u on this
@SUPERNOVA0360 only your comment was cringe 🤣
@SUPERNOVA0360Stop the cap
Did you edit the video?
@SUPERNOVA0360 smoking that dead dog pack lmao
@SUPERNOVA0360 i dont think any of you guys know what cringe means
I don't know if it's fair to reduce Sukuna's ideals to rejecting companionship and bonds. He has those with Uraume for instance. I think it's more the rejection of putting others before yourself, of lacking the confidence to go it alone. Sukuna doesn't need others to fulfill him, but if he enjoys them he'll keep them around. It's less about rejecting others and more about placing yourself and your pleasures as central, something humans struggle to do (hence his criticism of Jogo and the disaster curses).
Ouuuu I really like how you worded this and tbh I think you’re right alot of people struggle with that exact thing like jogo
Well said
and now he's beefing with a teenager, cause "his willpower irritates me", truly the greatest character
@@kalpeshbhoir7372he beefs with Yuji because Yuji is literally the personification of the opposite of his beliefs
This sounds like the same thing that the philosopher Max Stirner expressed in his book The Unique & Its Property
This deep analysis of JJK really raises up Gege as a writer for me. I hope others realize this as well
I don’t care what anyone says, Akutami is a genius 📿🙏🗿
He's him! Gojo stans stay mad lmao.
(Listen I'm just trolling Gojo was one of my favorites in the series but to say what Gege did was wrong or bad is just plain wrong in itself).
@@InvisibleMan-tb8keat this point i think people dont like gege because he doesn't really actually use his characters.
like, most of them live and die just to gas up, or be character development for the ones he actually cares about (Gojo, sukuna, yuta and a few others)
(like yeah nanami had it good, megumi had his moments, but like. nobara, mai, miwa, inumaki, hell even fucking Todo)
@@illuminoeye_gaming thats the point of the characters, no? they arent real people but tools of the author to deliver the story
@@Ozone946 always, yes, but a character, to not feel wasted, needs to do more than forward the plot. they should have relationships with other characters, motivations, and maybe most importantly, their own story. a character arc
like nanami, even though most of his arc was pre-events of the show, its delivered through flashback and most importantly its shown very explicitly how its impacted the nanami we see today. and, when it finally concludes his arc with death, he managed to answer every question he had. moreover, it answers questions for US thematically and philosophically as well. then when you add on how he does plot stuff (saving ichiji etc) and his relationships with gojo and yuji, he is the epitome of what im NOT complaining about.
meanwhile nobara, her backstory is right before her death, it doesn't really mean anything to how she behaved, and while yes, she brought great chemistry to the trio with good interactions, she simply did not have an arc. MAYBE theres the whole "i cant sit around idly while yuji and megumi go to work in shibuya" but that... doesn't inform anything? in the end, she is a fun interaction vehicle, but not much else. death is meant to mean something major. its so impactful, so it needs to have weight behind it. like for nanami, it concluded his story. and yet for nobara, all it serves to do is traumatise yuji (and i guess emphasise the danger of sorcery and how noone is safe since she was supposed to he part of the "main trio")
theres a rule of thumb that writers tend to use. if a character can be replaced by an object of sentimental/plot relevance, they're not a good character.
tldr, characters are more than just story advancement, they have their own stories too
I believe Sukuna REALLY almost died a few times... but, only bc he took intentional risks. Killing Gojo was not top priority in that fight.
He wanted to 1) see 10 Shadows' limits, 2) analyze Mahoraga's Adaptation, and 3) dissect Infinity. Note, these are ALL in service of learning / becoming stronger.
Ofc he was extending his love, but he also saw opportunities to grow, risking his life to do it.
EDIT: Learning could be the ENTIRE goal, honestly. That kind of mental stimulation - it might be how he enjoys himself, whether he benefits from it or not.
great observation. I agree too
yeah, basically he just wanted to upgrade his CT. Otherwise Gojo would have died in the first domain battle
Wow amazing this might be the only chanel we're the jjk fans actually like the story and can analyze what was really happening, with out calling a character a fraud or be biased
@@neb2777 IDK if i would go as far as to say he would have died in the first domain clash but I see what youre saying. Sukuna wasnt learning in the fight because he was purely trying to get stronger. He was trying to learn so that he could kill gojo. I think theres a big difference to be said there. Sukuna needed to grow in order to kill gojo, thats not say gojo wouldve killed him without sukuna growing, but he literally couldnt hit gojo without learning from mahoraga
@@brodyestes2376dude he could of killed him in the early domain clashes reread the manga jeez
This might be the greatest breakdown video on JJK ever put out. Breaking down Gojo's character and how he never moved past his time as a teenager is perfect, and it irks me when other people disregard that fact. Gojo's death even confirms how he never grew as a person because he imagines himself and everyone else from back when he was still in highschool. His mind never truly changed, he was stuck
Trauma does that to people
You get mentally stuck at a certain age when traumatized
Which sets up perfectly for his comeback !!! Nanami said if you want anew you head north . Gojo is going to mirror the Buddha , achieve his second awakening, and clap Sukuna !
*inhales ungodly mass of copium
I think gojo did grow out of it, but he still greatly viewed it as his moment of subjetivation (alienation of his maturity of sorts). Gojo's reality was turned upside down as he found someone who has stronger, his only identity being destroyed. Gojo simply was not himself anymore, he suffered an ego death after he fought toji. However, he found humility in it, while geto delved deep into his own ego (a very dialectical narrative, which plays well into gege's style). From there, gojo strived towards power, not because he was told to be powerful, but because he seeked a sublime trascendental purpose (overthrowing the jujutsu higher ups) similar to yuki. In the end, his fight with toji is what gave him a fully realized character, while on the outside retaining his regular self as a way to protect the fractured egos, not coming from a place of narcicism anymore (not fully atleast)
@@jonathanruiz8723 my guy this isn't Dragon Ball 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He imagined what he was before he became the strongest
I’m actually giving you a standing applause because I’ve never looked so deeply into the fights or the way the story was unveiled. You actually opened my eyes
I also wonder how people get so good at creating complex plots at such degrees when making their literary worlds bc as I’m striving to do something of my own but I usually struggle to come up with something as exciting as Gege’s or other authors to give people an exciting time reading my stuff
Good luck that’s what it’s all about!
Sukuna evolved his sorcery in the fight beyond what Gojō could evolve his own techniques to. Sukuna’s mindset and devotion to his pleasures is quite something incredible to witness. And that’s saying a lot since Gojō was also a jujutsu freak
It's the difference in self. Jjk implies selfishness makes up a sorcerer's ability to grow. In reality, it is having such an overwhelming sense of oneself that fuels this selfishness, which in turn leads to strength.
"Above heaven and earth, they alone are the Honored Ones."
gojo is 28 years old sukuna has 1000s of years of experience if gojo even had 100 years of training or expirence he would no diff sukuna
@@Toddles my guy Sukuna was sealed for 1000 years he did not live those 1000 years also it doesn't help your argument that Gojo was sealed in a space where time was wonky and it is specifically stated that Gojo could have been sealed for an infinite amount of time from his perspective and no one would know because Gojo was the only one to experience it. Basiccaly the story goes out of its way to show that both Gojo and Sukana have very similar circumstances and experiences yet Sukuna has been the superior sorcerer every step of the way.
@@lanyinghuang3731
"Throughout Heaven and Earth, Goatkuna alone is the Honored One."
"Throughout Heaven and Earth, Fraudjo alone is the Chopped One."
👍
@@Toddles chopped 🤭
the poison resistance from sukuna was a mistranslation, sukuna himself is a poison, so since yuji can withstand him just means that he himself has a resistance to poison
I love how when sukuna says he "cut the world" he LITERALLY cuts the WORLD of jjk by splitting the pages, chapters and volumes. Like he split the verse of jjk which has Gojo inside of it to kill him. Crazy shit.
Split the fandom too
Would be fire if that slash actually takes up two panels with Gojo's body in the middle. But instead we got Strong Offscreen.
This fight will be THE best fight in anime when it gets animated. It’s got that Hisoka vs Chrollo chess game energy. Sukuna had the Batman level pre-planning and understanding Gojo’s abilities observing thru Yuji. Gojo being the prodigy he is, kept up with every adjustment Sukuna made on the fly.(besides the last one.)
The repeated domain expansion battle was awesome since it showed that in a fight between the strongest, rules for the average don’t apply. Switching between domain amplification and rct mid-combat. Just crazy amazing stuff.
I always thought Gojo would come out on top but the fact he never had to use the fuga flames shows Sukuna didn’t play his all of his cards. So while the airport scene might’ve had the Gojo stans bothered, it wasn’t false.
It’s like Sukuna went into a fight with a self-placed win condition in getting the infinity-cutting slash, not just getting the W because why not add a stupid OP property to your already OP technique? So yes, Gojo had many close chances to win but I think too many people are downplaying Sukuna’s tactical ability because they’re salty but he proved to be superior to Gojo.
Hell I’d say all the foreshadowing Sukuna has shown with his interest throughout the series towards Megumi was genius writing by Gege. And Gojo telling Megumi their ancestors’ history. The writing was on the wall for us this whole time. Sukuna showed patience, preparation and perseverance were the keys to his victory.
I dont see it that way at all, I just kinda thought Megumi-Sukuna just abused Mahoraga and got an Easy W vs Gojo. I even read the later chapters and it just seemed like Sukuna could shake off everything that happened this whole arc, like Gojo was just a light stepping stone and not a full blown arduous and hard fought battle one would need to recover and recoup from
@@lilbroomstick7914 I mean in current manga, Sukuna is getting his shit rocked by fodder BECAUSE of Gojo. Gojo is singlehandedly the reason that every single major character in the fight (Maki, Yuta, Yuji etc) hasn't been instantly killed by Sukuna. He weakened him to such a degree that even Yuta ''I'd only get in Gojo's way while he fought Sukuna'' Okkotsu was able to keep up, not to mention Yuji and Maki who are both even weaker.
Yeah SUKUNA won the battle of the strongest, and there's no doubt about it. But SUKUNA will lose the war of the strongest for sure, as GOJO alone can be defeated by using lame trick or something, but the modern will struggle but in the end of the manga, SUKUNA will die with end of this whole fucking Shinjuku
6 months later, and the furnace point actually just turned into more praise for gojo. i guess he was just referring to his true form
I disagree that Sukuna would use himself as a comparison for Jogo. Sukuna has said multiple times (more specifically in the kashimo fight) he does not believe he can be compared to. At the very least, he doesn’t bother himself with comparison of others. He simply doesn’t care about.
So it makes more sense for Sukuna to tell Jogo he could have been on Gojo's. For Sukuna most likely believes that Jogo could never get on his level but thinks being on Gojo's level as a good participation award.
Precisely!!!!🏆
Well said
Yes, and actually in manga(in the anime too, I assume) Sukuna says ''I don't understand it either.'' outside what jogo was personally seeing.
I think that sequence of jogo and sukuna was actually the moment where the brain shows you the happy happy memories or something that you would wanna see before dieing is what that sequence was i guess?
He wasn't comparing jogo to shite.
He just said he could grow stronger if he removed the mental blocks. It doesn't mean he thinks jogo can beat gojo or himself.
The comparison between the Gojo V Toji and Sukuna V Gojo fights blew my mind. And then you added how the two fights together, complete the cycle started by the original Ten Shadows V Six Eyes/Limitless fight, in which they both died.
Great video and I agree that the fight did wonders for both Sukuna and Gojo in terms of characterization, particularly when you add Kashimo's fight on top of it. Of the strongest, Gojo is the most human, the most willing to push others forward to match him because he feels that isolation from humanity and - through various developments like those depicted in Hidden Inventory - has found a solution in bringing others to his level. Kashimo never had this development in his life time, he was never able to come up with a plan to bridge the divide, to conquer the loneliness. In a way he is what Gojo would have been if he had never pursued helping the students and revamping Jujutsu society. In defeat, Kashimo finds the answers he is looking for and is at peace.
Then there is Sukuna. Who is exactly what we have been told all along, a calamity, a force of nature. His solution to the loneliness of his strength was simply to abandon humanity and focus on himself. His continued quest for strength is shown to be a vehicle for his hedonistic desires, a necessary step towards maintaining his agency. Interestingly, he sees humanity as less of something to be a part of, and more as something to snack on for its variety and flavor (both metaphorically and actually) - which explains why he never stops and why he will continue to be a danger to all who cross his path. There is still more to be revealed on his front, as we still don't have his backstory (including his "fall" in the Heian period), or even his curse technique, but we now have an explanation on how he sees his fights and his outlook on the problem of strength.
I think once the people still in shock over Gojo's death look at the fight as whole, and in the larger context of the series, they will appreciate it not only for what it did for the story, but how it fleshed out and concluded Gojo as a character.
btw sukuna died of natural causes he didn't really fall he was a diety til the end
True, but also, I still miss Gojo. ),:
Also now I know that the natrator is not allways reliable, but they can't stop glazing sukuna and it got anoying 30 chapters ago.
@@Seloliva1015 Narrator didn't say Gojo won Kusakabe did. Please understand how to read the manga before spreading incorrect information. Anything that isn't a box/rectangle is NOT the narrator. Moreover, if one was just paying attention to the context - a conversation between Yuji and Kusakabe - you could understand that the comment was Kusakabe's analysis according to what they knew. They did not know that Sukuna had already gotten the model for the world slash in 234.
I think this is a great analysis and it’s actually kind of providing a lot of context for the past couple weeks too with all of the absurdity surrounding takaba vs kenjaku. Since sukuna showed up in full the intensity of the story ramped up dramatically and the expectations are totally out the window. Takaba is just another example of how the things we think we know, we don’t. Exemplified perfectly by kenjaku, the seat of knowledge in this world, realizing his 1000 years of knowledge won’t be of any use to him against such a force. I think dramatically cutting away from that intensity to go off the walls here is almost proving the entire point of this video honestly. It also makes sense in the context of why kashimo got so little compared to takaba in terms of like, character development screen time. His entire arc was basically the shonen essence distilled(basically the Goku archetype. I’m strong and want to fight the strong)and sukunas entire ramble to him at the end about how his way of expressing love was basically to display his power before them is the perfect backdrop to Takaba. Is that not what the most recent chapter basically showed? Takaba starting round 2 of this fight is basically him about to show Kenjaku his meaning of love. He’s acting in sukunas way now, focused entirely on his goal selfishly even though the goal is to make people laugh. It’s about to get real as hell.
Couldn't agree more
10/10 video I loved the hour long analysis depth to it.
26:00 cant believe people still think Gojo was carried by his Infinity when during the fight, time and time again he was shown to adapt and think outside the box, getting cut up during Sukunas DE and able to endure and RCT it. There is alot in the fight to look at and dissect, it wasnt solely Sukuna waiting for Mahoraga toadapt but for both Gojo and Sukuna to learn from each other and become stronger. For Gojo he was finally pushed to his limits and be creative, for Sukuna is was to upgrade his Cleave and Dismantle.
1:00:00 This gave me literal chills... its different reading the manga physically and by volume then chapter by chapter to fully grasp the story. Also it brings foward the theory that the narrator is the merger...
I am curious now how Yuuji counters Sukuna far beyond power but as a character. I look foward to a video analysis of Yuuji vs Sukuna fight from you ❤
32:21 I think the "stand proud" scene is real, especially when you consider the compassion one shows enemies that Sukuna was talking about with Kashimo.
A 1hr long analysis on one of my favorite animanga fights?? Less go I'm hyped.
15:06
15:28 😊
25:12 😊😅😮😊 25:54
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I always loved Gojo, but everyone slept on the detail between he and Sukuna’s monikers of the greatest sorcerer in History vs Today. Sukuna was Not pressed by that Young man Gojo
He only got nervous right at the end, the moment that Purple failed the fight was over. Gojo was strong, just not quite enough.
@@unoriginalandunfunny1563and that nervousness was due to a random occurrence of luck on black flash
Like, yah
Suddenly your opponent is back at 120% power after a hard fight when u aren't and it was unexpected and random
Ofc u would be nervous
Unless u are an dumass
Facts
Great analysis. I feel like this whole clash of ideologies between strength of an individual vs as a team will be resolved when Yuji* shows off the combined strength of himself and his “brothers”.
You mean Yuji?
@@Noone-we9vbwhoops! Thanks 😅
I noticed that both Gojo and Jogo had their fight ended with a desperate attempt on their side to destroy everything aroun them (Maximum Meteor and the unbound maximum purple) only to fail and then getting hit by something they didn't expect.
Gojo wasn't desperate he was fighting with time cause mahoraga ended up adapting to gojos ability
Gojo clearly wasn't desperate.
@@jimohabdulqudus4283 if try to nuke yourself without knowing that you would survive. thats kinda of desperate
@@yamsbeans He didn't thunk he wouldn't survive?
He knew he would survive lol...He said, this is the first time I tried it.
Any long fight needs to be binged to get it fully
You’re too dumb to analyze
I disagree with the statement that jogo’s afterlife vision is fake. The same thing happens to kashimo and I find it funny that you didn’t mention his afterlife vision thinking you’d debunk that too.
I find his reasoning for Jogos convo being fake pretty good, if you could give a rebuttal to those that would be neat. Also he probably didnt try to debunk Kashimos convo because he thinks it to be real, which I also agree with.
@@unoriginalandunfunny1563I didn’t watch the vid but Ik you’re wrong
@@unoriginalandunfunny1563 I disagree with the reasoning that he would never use Gojo as a point of comparison and use himself.
The entire point of the Kashimo death scene is to show off that Sukuna believes himself to be UNcomparable. He would never use himself as a measuring stick for Jogo because he believes he could never reach him.
@@cake6851that’s a good way to look at it. It also makes sense for him to use Gojo because while he thinks he is the strongest he does give gojo respect and believe him to be strong. Like how he said he was surprised he didn’t rule because of his strength
I've written a more extended clarification of this in the pinned comment but I'll explain here too; I said in the video that Jogo's vision might be fake. And since Kashimo's vision was shown, many people think Jogo's couldn't possibly be fake. The thing is, Kashimo's vision doesn't seem exceedingly “real” either. They shift landscapes twice, Kashimo goes from looking like an old man to his young self, etc. The only constant in both scenes is Sukuna. Even in the Jogo vision, what Sukuna was saying, except for the bit about reaching Gojo's heights, entirely makes sense for Sukuna's character. Burning away everything you don't like, being true only to yourself and not to anything so vague as “becoming human” in the case of Jogo, that sounds entirely like Sukuna's ideology. Much like what Sukuna told Kashimo, he should have burnt everything to a cinder, been satisfied only with himself instead of trying to "find love to alleviate his loneliness". In both the scenes whose authenticity is quite intentionally called into question via their framing & presentation, the only constant is Sukuna's character. You can think that Jogo and Kashimo scenes actually happened, I myself think we've yet to receive the full picture and they are deeply entwined in the true nature of cursed energy. Like I say in the video though, for now it doesn't matter. The subjective experiences of Jogo and Kashimo shape their respective realities as they die; Sukuna's character remaining constant, Sukuna's character pervading someone's subjective experience, only adds to Sukuna's characterization.
You were magnificent, Radman and Detective Critics.
We saw that Sukuna won domain battle twice and gojo won it once and the remaining was always a draw. Sukuna lost only 1 battle only by less than 0.01 sec. If he used his heinan form, Gojo would take longer to beat him in hand combat and Sukuna would just win the domain battle everytime. that's much easier for Sukuna , but he still chose this method to get "stronger" even tho he is already the "strongest" but gojo was trying to be the strongest. Sukuna is a terrifying antagonist. He needs to die otherwise he will keep getting stronger. He doesn't care about human life. Making someone like him fight against Yuji who struggled throughout the series to become strong enough to save others is a really good set up.
I agree he had to die but if yuji making a power jump like that is a asspull you don’t just jump to the level of Gojo and Sukuna. But idk something that stuck with me was Gojo telling Toji he should of cut his head off so idk.
yeah but gojo could still operate within his domain using simple domain and rct, sure it'd be a little harder for gojo but not much because most of the time the fight was one sided, without without mahogora sukuna could not finish the fight, with hein form the fight would be less one sided but gojo ultimately would have won due to sukuna not being able to get passes infinity without his domain, and then in the domain he cant just one shot gojo
@@GabeSolos buddy, heinan form sukuna will win the domain battle everytime. gojo ain't winning
@@shotboy-kw9vu gojo can still operate In sukunas domain?
@@GabeSolos he will keep getting slashes. everyone knows that gojo will lose if he continue to lose domain battle. reread. sorcerers who were watching the fight said that as well. continuous domain expansions + continuous RCT takes abnormal amount of curse energy. its more than gojo can generate.
This is undoubtably not only my favorite fight in the series, but 236 is also my favorite chapter in the series. 236 was clearly a chapter that divided the fanbase, some having reasonable thoughts and others not so much. I haven't finished your video yet, but I can already tell how much work you've put it.
Man I love this series, the fanbase not so much. Im hoping that a year from now, similar to how alot of people seemed to hate Yuji VS Mahito and even Shibuya. They can look back and say "That was a serious Masterpiece."
A lot of people hated Yuji vs Mahito and Hakari vs Kashimo when those fights initially aired and now everybody acts like they loved those fights from the beginning. I hate the JJK fanbase so much.
@@FirmlyGrasp_IT EXACTLY! Those are many peoples number ones now but the fanbase was UNBEARABLE during it. I'm sure these newest chapters are gonna be the same.
There were/are sheep who wanted Gojo to live and were delusional he was going to live, the other side were people who werent against Sukunas W but couldnt phantom how Sukuna executed Infinity and the one off panel leaving a bitter taste, it seems from this video that it was done intentionally as no one really knows Sukuna and his capabilities fully which is true as Gege has been keeping everything of him unwraps and the information we were given was from characters not Sukuna himself... so this brings a bit more understanding in what Gege is trying to show. It will definitely take more time and for JJK to finish to fully grasp what Gege intentions were in this fight and Gojo death being this way.
@@SemekiIzuioSo if people wanted Gojo to live, they’re “sheep” but everyone else are normal? Y’all glazers be killing me man
@@MindlessMenaceThis had nothing to do with glazing anyone.
reading these comments i am so glad there are people in this fandom that actually read this manga with their eyes opened especially this fight and appreciate it its a shame a lot of people are attacking gege saying he doesnt know what he is doing or that he is a bad writer just because they didnt understand it at all
Not really bad writing just a really stupid mistake gege could’ve easily handled better.
If gege didnt off screen Gojo and didn’t have Gojo meat ride in the end it would’ve been an amazing end to Gojo
A final clash where Gojo lost because sukuna finally learned how to tear through his technique and Gojo dies with no afterlife scene would’ve been better 100%
i think the story went really downhill after the culling games porperly began, from a pacing perspective the series decreases in quality quite tremendously, and after sukuna took over megumi's body there was really no going back, the back of the prison realm being a thing, angel being a thing and sukuna being in full control meant that gojo had to be brought back, which was by far the biggest mistake gege has ever made with the writing of JJk. It also just sucks off sukuna way too hard, he is a pretty lame villain all things considered and the story had to go out of its way so many bloody times just to make him win, hell we didnt even know mahoraga could give someone else its adaptations, but lets say it can, mahoraga is a walking "it works this way because the author says so" card, it doesnt give a single fuck about whats possible and reasonable and whats not, it simply breaks every law of the series to do whatever dafuck it wants
@@spectron5012 i think what you are saying is mostly how you personally feel about the story like you didnt want gojou to come back you didnt like sukuna taking over megumi and things like that but you know what thats ok the writers write the story however they want it and not everyone can like their decisions but you have to differentiate that from writing because just because you didnt like the directions the things that went down it doesnt mean its bad writting from gege's side , look at the other corner so many people absolutely loved the things you didnt like and maybe the fact that you view those things in a bad light is affecting your judgment of the writting i have read many series i didnt personally like but i could see why many other peolple liked and why the writing was actually good yeah anyway sorry for yapping but maybe if you were to reread you might see things differently bc the second time you read the story you have the advantage of already knowing the surface of it now you can go beyond that... and maybe understand somethings else about why things happened the way they did
@@luckypuffs7463 i understand how things came to be the way they were, i still think creating angel as a character was a very big mistake, because she was the biggest walking mucguffin in the whole show, you literally just sealed gojo an arc before so you could finally create plausible threats, and then you release him back out with very minimal difficulty without ever upscaling your existing characters, and then you kill him off right after because you wrote yourself into a corner with sukuna, it really just leaves me thinking "what was the point of that?" same with yuki to be honest, sukuna and kenjaku are just walking plot armor with very boring goals, hell at least kenjaku has one i guess, but i dont really care about it anymore because of the amount of times the story had to bail him out, like escaping a blackhole? fuck off with that. we havent even seen kenjaku and sukuna really... fail? i guess kenjaku got decapitated by yuta but we dont even know if thats gonna matter. i honestly like the idea of sukuna taking over megumi's body, i dont like how it was done tho, it was far too early in the story to commence an end game scenario, the characters are just nowhere near strong enough to even have a fighting chance against both kenjaku and sukuna, just kenjaku would have been a problem, so now we are stuck in a spot where anything that gege comes up with will most likely feel very unsatisfying, like yuji getting a soul killing technique or whatever
It was a bad ending to a good fight no matter how it’s framed
Dude….”he is independent even from the narrative that consistently serves him” !? That is fire essay text right there. And I never thought about how he contradicts the narrative text in saying he will remember gojo. You were on a roll this video.
This video was fantastic, genuinely the best thematic analysis I've seen of this fight.
It's genuinely a shame the more "shonen mentality" of fans can't appreciate this masterpiece.
Yeah, people too quickly give up on searching for a deeper meaning in stories when they find out that "oh its just a battle shounen". Some of the most celebrated series in terms of their quality have been shonen.
@@fuffythegreatunless the deeper meaning is handed to them on a silver platter in the first 10-20 chapters, "its just another battle shonen". those that do explicitly make that meaning obvious are pushed up onto a pedestal while all other shonen are seen as "just shonen" because it takes actual contextual analysis (jjk), dedication and awareness (one piece) or philosophical thinking (jojos) to understand.
and yeah, while JoJo's is gassed up that's mainly cuz the fights are insane. like its just " *the* battle shonen" when theres so much more to love (as much as the fights could be argued to be the best part)
right, "i had to think not only consume" = masterpiece
@@kalpeshbhoir7372 you're a MauLer viewer, you have to forfeit your right to be taken seriously immediately where media analysis is concerned.
You probably think "sometimes the curtains are just blue" is a valid and intelligent response.
This is one of the best anime videos I've ever seen. Thank you for doing justice to these characters and the conclusion Gege reached. Absolutely loved it.
In my opinion, Gojos' death is a perfect ending to his character. I was dying to someone strong and finally freeing him from the endless and unending loneliness that he had since Geto leaving. I think nothing says this more than the final panel we have of Gojo sukuna. Smiling on the ground as Sukuna praises him. And while I am and have been of the opinion that Gojo is stronger than than the Sukuna of the Heian era, it is Sukunas ability to turn himself into a cursed object, his greed and Neverending desire for strength as well as his planning that allowed him to steal Megumi's body and then use said body to defeat the strongest character.
I Also would love your opinion on the idea that Gojos own mindset is the reason he failed. Not only did he see Sukuna as an equal but before that he saw Geto as an equal as well as knowing that Megumis 10 shadows once killed Someone identical to himself. I think these two factors made him doubt his own strength, thus limiting his ceiling.
This is what I was thinking he completed his wish and fulfilled his desire and that’s perfect + he gets to chill with his friends
I couldn't help but think that Gojo going into the fight seeking to do something for Sukuna that he's always wanted for himself was not the correct mindset to enter the fight with. After watching this video, it just supports how fucking busted Gojo is to be able to do all this with that mindset. In Shibuya, if he prioritized preventing his sealing or death understanding that it would lead to more deaths than all the people in Shibuya combined, he would have won. But again, he did what he wanted and damn near succeeded, just like in his fight with Sukuna.
@@MetalSolidCrisis gojo is human at the end of the day, its why i like his character so much, his personality is pretty trashy but he is a good human being when it counts, gojo takes L's the entire series and everytime its not because of how strong he is, its because of how imperfect he is, he still thinks and feels like a human being
@@spectron5012 exactly one hundred percent. It makes his character so much more likeable to me, when I read Gojo vs Sukuna and I see those panels where he makes quips and jokes and Sukuna is staring at him with softer eyes- he knows what's going on, he knows what Gojo is aiming for and he plays along with it, almost like he appreciates the effort and attempt to push him further than anyone has. Sukuna views Gojo as a flower, he appreciates its bloom but know it will never understand him. It's a magnificent fight but it's clear to me Gojo would always lose- he never had the mentality required to win or he'd stop being himself, he wouldn't be Gojo. You get the answer to Geto's question too, and the answer is both. Excellent work by Gege 10/10 will read again.
@@MetalSolidCrisis i mean gojo would never win that fight because of plot realistically, itadori needs to be the one to play a major role in killing sukuna, gojo has no plot armor sukuna has a fuck load, the fight prolly shouldnt have happened in the first place, but at least it was cool
0:21 saying that battle is of history proportions is insane that farming bum lasted 1.5 chapters
Casually tried to put Kashimo on the same pedestal as Goatjo
Out ot those 1.5 chapters, 1 chapter was prettymuch dedicated to kashimo glazing sukuna
Homie fucked around and wrote a mf thesis on this shit. 10/10. Really really nice job. You are a talented writer and storyteller keep doing what you do!
And they told me Gege "hates Gojo"
Some people just can't read
Just as they hate Yuji. Gege came out and said they just have difficulty writing Yuji, and I assume Gojo was too powerful to include through most of those arcs, or like 2 years in real life time.
It's always a good day when Radman uploads
I ALWAYS LOVE LONG videos.Radman JUST GOATED!!! I'm happy I kinda already did ichigo video 5 times.😊
Reminds me of Gouken vs Akuma. Gouken was not enlightened, he was just empty, while Akuma considers himself absolute due to his own selfishness and disregard for others, while wearing a mark that says Heaven in Japanese
Can you expand upon Akuma's part?
@@Ouriithe23rd I don't really know much more. the back of Gouken's shirt says null or void or something like that, while Akuma's says Ten(=Heaven in Japanese)
And man, mahito even explicitly talked about this post modern theme! He told kenjaku that his cursed technique didn’t determine the universal truth of the soul because techniques determine the world you live in. Subjective experience determines individual reality.
I gotta say, you did some fantastic work here. I think I might’ve seen this earlier in it’s release on a different YT account. Glad to revisit it. Well done 👏🏻
this is the best critical analysis of jjk i've ever seen - the weaving of context throughout, the references to previous themes furthering your arguements, the seemingly tangental side points which both flesh out your main arguement and structures everything together, this is really, really good, are you majoring in literacy/film studies by any chance
Finally, someone who actually understands amd acknowledges the fight for the masterpiece it was. So many fools instantly dismissing it just because the character they like died without even giving it a chance. Keep up the great work! You just got a subscriber!
It's not a masterpiece of a fight though. We need to stop spamming that word, as the conclusion of how Gojo died could've been done way better with a lot less ambiguity
@@UnifiedEntityit was amazing
The thematics and how it played into the story was good, but the actual fight was kinda mid. Sure it was hype, but the character interactions and the pacing were off. Specially during the latter portion lf the domain clashes, it felt like a bit of a slog reading thru it.
@@softwetbread248 that’s cap
The action was the best in this series
It showed how smart they both are and proved why they are the standard in this verse
The domain clashes is one of the most hype moments in the fight because it happened back to back
@@thebigdoginthisbitch4733 Best to YOU.
This is an excellent video, please keep up the actual literary criticism of manga. This is what weve all been waiting for
this video...is the true enlightened one. youve earned my subscription my friend. amazing work breaking down these two. what a hell of a dynamic they have
They both GOATS, just fortunate enough to meet. For their own benefit, their fans not so much.
Honestly, ever since the end of the fight, Sukuna fans have been on a personal mission to bully and put down anyone that slightly wasn’t wasn’t a Sukuna fan
@@freddyg6094ripe what u sow
Gojo fans been and still are toxic shits
And now they cry victim at their own energy
The only thing i hate about gojo is his fans
@@freddyg6094lol when sukuna ultimately dies I wonder what the energy will be. Of course I am assuming, but I also assumed gojo couldn't win because of plot.
@@freddyg6094Gojo fans were doing this the whole fight. Ive seen people say Gojo is stronger when he literally lost. All the fans are the same on both sides
@@freddyg6094Wow. Isn't that "ironic" as hell, yeah?
Lmao.
I'd like to mention that Jogos conversaton with sukuna was actually very on brand imo, if anything the most encapsulating of sukuna and his idea of Jujutsu.
its a lot like Zlatan Ibrahimovic's "a lion doesnt compare himself to humans" line. By saying jogo could reach gojos level, he implicitly states that theres no bridging the gap to reach himself.
I can't believe I missed the detail that Mei Mei went specifically to the location Nanami was dreaming about in his final moments.
Absolutely beautiful video. The quality and depth is unrivalled. Honestly think you’re the best at your craft out there.
I loved this video a lot and it was really well written. The battle of 2 ideals; 2 places within a story visualized in 2 characters was great. I want to see your take on Ichidori and what he represents within the story as the main character outside of being Sukuna's perfect vessel. I feel that Ichi has been sidelined between the 2 behemoths (Sukuna and Gojo), so you giving any theories on his philosophical place within the story would be really interesting.
Perfect Timing, I just watched the gojo analysis yesterday
10/10 vid btw
you're videos are always so good. Keep working hard and you'll be one of the most popular animanga youtubers out there.
Fully agree quality is next level and will always win the end
You can say the series is a clash of ideals, sukuna vs gojo. Focusing on one’s self vs trying to better the people around you. Geto even said if he had gojos power he could achieve his goal immediately
Damn this man is COOKING. This analyzation is amazing
Peak video, my guy! Great points and editing all around. Subscribed :D
When gojo got split in half it symbolise gojo being dead
Obviously
No way ?
😲
This is actually the perfect video. I thought I was one of the VERY few who understood what was going on and this man here not only proved my views but extended them.
Like, you totally understand the themes and meta commentary.
Plot twist: the Shibuya narrators were a the half a dozen camera crew tracking Yuji and Megumi and were the last few people to be turned to human pretzels by Mahito
Radman you have yet again saved my life
precisely that. he doesnt see gojo as on his level. he never did. you could have reached those heights of satoru gojo...
he thought himself excluded. he thought himself above that. it's extremely fitting.
Great video man! I always love your perspective on stories I love. Makes me enjoy them 10 times more. appreciate you man🧡🙏🏾
Incredible video as always. Watched it twice now and during certain parts i can really feel det critics’ words 😭
Read his sukuna write up months back.
This is a great video! Something new that I found very interesting is that in the newest chapter, Sukuna flashes back to his conversation with Jogo, proving that the conversation was real!!
Something that i came to a conclusion to is that gojo wasn't offscreened but that the entire part that would've shown gojo getting cut in half was also cut. I say that because(i think) it was explained that sukuna used mahoraga to develop a new version of his curse technique that literally cuts through space and time. And i think that's cooler and it makes sense to me. Also i don't really care that much that gojo was offscreened. The author kind of did write themselves in a corner and did need to get rid of gojo via death or lose a lot of his power.
It is only JJK I see some fans saying Gege wrote himself into a corner, like gege didn't know how it would all end a long time ago 😂 he literally created Gojo to face against Sukuna. Imagine how the fight would have gone if Gege didn't write himself into a corner. Gojo would last just half a panel like others and i don't think anyone wants that 😅
@@TechGuru-zp6bu thank you and thank goodness someone replied to me because I wanted to say something after I finished watching the vid but I couldn't edit or reply to myself for some reason. Anyway, I can't believe I kinda came to the same conclusions as the video for the gvs fight with the cleave cutting the chapter and how much gojo v sukuna mirrors gojo v toji(I didn't say it but that was my personal thoughts on it anyway). Also, I wanted to change that gege did not write himself into a corner. I realise it was very obvious that if he won, gojo would have nothing to do and kenjaku would have lost immediately since his last major play was sukuna and that is just really boring and not fun. All in all, gojo was a cool character, I was pretty neutral on his death; I do mostly say gege wrote himself into a corner because almost everyone says that and I now know they are wrong. You are right that jjk fans stay coping with the writing into corner statement. And with gojo's death, I realize that nobara is not coming back.):
If that's the case, Kashimo should've been bisected from that fire cut Sukuna used, ending the fight and even cutting the actual event happening. But we clearly see it being shown as a wave cutting the area.
A masterpiece of a video, so glad you made this!
I haven't finished the video yet but the work must have been colossal. Please excuse my English I am French speaking. Long live Gege Akutami
Good english bro
Amazing English bro
Great English
Absolutely absurd and astonishing analysis. Brilliant work. Excellent video.
I love that Gojo and Sukuna at the end are both just happy to have had a good fight
Great work! Always had suspicion this was all deeper than it seemed. Well researched my guy.
Life is good man yes
W video🔥 love the analysis of the fight ❗️best Gojo v sukuna breakdown I’ve seen yet
Sukuna used gojo as a reference towards jogo only because he thinks that nobody can reach sukkuna strength, and here we can jump to question sukkuna was asked "were u born strongest or u became strongest?"
great video, thank you for sharing! really appreciate how you brought in the text itself and the way Sukuna defines it! keep up the good work ❤
putting this in watch later for tonight
your thoughts being an hour long video??? This is great!
Amazingly researched video, good work!
seeing the notification for this video had me hyped to watch but then I saw it was an hour long. this is gonna be a good day
Subbed. This is the type of anime/manga analysis I need.
I think kenjaku represents pure unrestrained rationalism. Sukuna is hedonism, while gojo is modernism .
Kenjaku being an enemy to modernism makes sense. As modernism seeks to "have its cake and eat it too".
Hedonism, at the very least is a consistant philosophy, while modernism stands in contradiction to itself.
Despite all pretense, modernism still places power at the top.
Thats why itadori is such an interesting character. I believe we are seeing the last vestiges of the "cog" mentality fade away. No matter how much itadori tries to be a cog, the story reminds him that he is a real person, with real conections to people that are being killed right in front of his eyes.
I believe itadori will represent vitalism.
The persuit of Life, with capital L. Unlike gojo, itadori will persue ideals with out self indulgance. He will give himself entirely to Life .
Thats why only he can stand in oposition to sukuna, to hedonism.
Modernism indulges in hedonism, while vitalism is a holistic rejection of both rationalism, and hedonism. Vitalism seeks that which goes beyond rationality and self interest. That which truly makes us feel Life.
This analysis is one of the best I have seen about jjk.
THANKS 🎉🎉
The amount of stretching done in this video must have turned you into Mr.Fantastic
you deserve every subscriber my guy. Brought a tear my eye.
*gojo winning by outsmarting sukuna*
*sukuna going no-u by pulling the ability to cut existence itself out of his ass*
Your analysis embodies the sea in its beauty & depth; fkn banger my boiii
Before i watch this i just wanna say i agree this is also my favorite jjk fight however the ending of this fight drops the ball so hard it brings the series down a peg to me we also reached a new peak for all shonen anime almost now were back to isekai for the next 1000 years
Your videos are so well put, you make the best JJK analysis content.
essentially you're saying that sukuna is perfect right and that everything goes his way and if you have even a little bit of his ideals, you'll be in the top tiers of the whole verse
He addressed this. The characters aligned with his ideals **a little bit** & **temporarily**. Even a little bit can give characters a big buff but it doesn’t instantly make them the top of the verse for reasons mentioned above & in the video. Now before you say it yes. Meimei may completely embody Sukuna’s selfish mindset but **they have vastly different desires.**
I may have misunderstood your comment. I just wanted to clear up any misunderstandings you may have
Not perfect, just right. Since he understands the core of true jujutsu he understands that hedonistic ideology grants said power. He's obviously not perfect since he's hedonistic but even God's aren't perfect.
This video kinda makes no sense to me. Especially when he is talking about how Yuki lost because she didn't just rely on herself. But in the battle Gojo vs Meguna, Sukuna does the same thing relying on Megumi, his souls and technique... So did Sukuna go against his ideals???
@@Tojiiinowehere near the same. Yuki was relying on Tengen to take care of Kenjaku’s domain and back her up if it came to it. Sukuna doesn’t rely on Megumi, he is utilizing Megumi body sure, but he isn’t relying on Megumi himself to do anything for him.
@@undeadlegionare3643 No. He relied on Megumi. Do not try to change it to fit this videos narrative. He relied on Megumi's face, soul, and technique which played a HUGE part in his win. The only difference is the plot was on Sukuna's side and not Yuki's. Because if Sukuna died then it'd be he died because he relied on Megumi and not himself.... This is why thinking too much about specific topics can blur the actual meaning behind things. Not everything has to have some deep meaning.
The way you described Sukuna I think helps me develop a framework with which to analyze Yuji with. There's always been the hints to Yuji's character that imply that he's designed to be the antithesis to Sukuna, if by nothing else besides the fact that he seems to have been born from Kenjaku to explicitly be a vessel for Sukuna, however he winds up being one that can contain Sukuna. I think his journey is taking a human experience to realize that he is both born special as Satoru was and just is a transendental life force like Sukuna, and I think that will explain why Yuji will likely be the only one able to finish the fight with Sukuna. Idk if what I just typed makes sense though lol
This vid was absolutely gas. Such a great breakdown of one of the most momentous battles in all of manga that seems to be sorely misunderstood by the community.
Gotta say though, I think disregarding Jogo's death vision as a figment of his imagination just bc Sukuna decided to tell him he couldn't match Gojo was a misstep which I think leads to missing out on something huge. Sukuna had already mocked Jogo for being unwilling to open his domain after losing his domain battle with Satoru. Clearly Jogo was already measuring himself against that, so why wouldn't he make the comparison again? And Sukuna being who he is, a character that states he understands more than anyone wouldn't use himself as a measure, bc he doesn't believe others can attain his level. But he understands Gojo is strong in his own right, and so uses him as his example.
Once Jogo's vision is accepted as something Sukuna actually takes part in, means Sukuna has now recognized the strength of 3 opponents. Appearing to two of them after death to ease their passing, and possibly granting solace to another despite not appearing to them directly (Gojo).
After Kashimo's death, Sukuna talks to him about throwing a bone to those who entertained him. This is likely referring to Sukuna showing his version of love to those he deems strong. But I also believe this could be saying Sukuna may provide some insight to those he sees promise in to help them achieve greater heights (ex. Megumi). Still for Sukuna's own benefit, bc that in turn could push him higher still (which is why he was so complimentary of Gojo) but it adds a lot of depth to Sukuna as someone who (like Satoru) is willing to foster strength in other sorcerers.
It's another massive parallel between the two strongest, with the caveat that their reasoning for building up others is completely different.
Hands down the best fight analysis video on RUclips
Great work! Currently doing some research for a video, and this has been incredibly helpful!
Its so well done that I just couldn't just stop watching it. I got absolutely hooked
"When you become untouchable, you're unable to touch."
I thought Gojo only said that, "someone with Yuji's talent comes along once in 1000 years", not that Sukuna's vessel is rare, but that someone with a talent / skill like that is rare.
Thank you for this legendary video. You made me appreciate so much more JJK with it. I would never have known about all thoses details without it, so many thanks for all these researchs and explainations. It was a pleasure to watch.
Bro is a professional yapper
Best video on the subject on RUclips hands down. Good job.