Factory Floor: How John Lobb makes City shoes

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
  • The FT visits the heritage shoemaker to see how it carefully assembles its signature City II shoe, from cutting the leather outline to the final polish before sale.
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Комментарии • 79

  • @TheNunakun
    @TheNunakun 3 года назад +13

    I appreciate that the director referred to the craftsmen and women by name.

    • @eddygordon7170
      @eddygordon7170 2 года назад

      Dale Carnegie & Napoleon Hill !!!

    • @Michael-4
      @Michael-4 2 года назад

      When the camera has gone he turns to Maggie, gets a stopwatch out and says, Make me a pair of shoes in a German accent. 😂

    • @richardwaugh9121
      @richardwaugh9121 2 года назад

      Trust me he is not no director that bloke is a fraud

    • @thomascool1335
      @thomascool1335 4 месяца назад

      meanwhile me, they just called us a crew/staff when there was a short documentary about a fast food industry and I was in the video (btw it was Hungry Jacks restaurant)

  • @leandrolimeres
    @leandrolimeres 2 года назад +4

    Is this the real John Lobb that makes only bespoke shoes in England, or John Lobb owned by Hermes with regular shoes sold through stores?

    • @golfinguru11
      @golfinguru11 2 года назад

      Hermes owned. John lobb st James is differnet

    • @mikewinston8709
      @mikewinston8709 8 месяцев назад +1

      These are just cheap factory made shoes and nothing like John Lobb Bespoke who are proper shoe makers.

    • @lachyt5247
      @lachyt5247 Месяц назад

      @@mikewinston8709 That is pretentious nonsense. JLP is about as fine of a RTW shoe as you can get along with G&G and Edward Green. If they have a last which fits you perfectly, that shoe uses as good a quality leather (probably better because of Hermes connection) and the only real difference in construction is hand welting, which will make no practical difference to the shoe. Comparing JLP to a bespoke JL St. James is also ridiculous, the latter is more than 3x the price, I'd also argue JL St. James shoes are equally overhyped and overpriced in the world of bespoke making, if I'm commissioning bespoke (which I have to because of narrow heel, low instep and wide MTP), it's sure as hell not with John Lobb - they do one measurement session, no fittings and if the shoe isn't right, you're out of luck.

    • @mikewinston8709
      @mikewinston8709 Месяц назад

      @@lachyt5247 You’re wrong; you have as many fittings as are required with Johnathan. Also, you’re a liar…..You’ve never had a pair of bespoke shoes ever.

    • @lachyt5247
      @lachyt5247 Месяц назад

      ​@@mikewinston8709 Awww, sorry I hurt your feelings little guy. Yeah, totally lying, having to have shoes made because of my UK14 feet with D width heel and instep and G width toe box is a massive internet flex. You're a clown.

  • @giovannifilippi1303
    @giovannifilippi1303 3 года назад +3

    The custruction tecnics are the same of 500€ shoes. My grandfather was a shoesmaker, my father too. I know that the material can no do the 700 € difference. Except in case of esotic lether.

  • @21john52
    @21john52 4 года назад +9

    I can only speak as I find . Got 2 pair , 1 Pair go Monk double strap and one pair of City 2 . They cost me around 1100 pound a pair. They are a very nice shoe. Obviously very well made but what pleases me the most is the fit comfort and support of the shoes. Are they worth the price ? That is for you to decide . All I can say is that they look and feel great

    • @richardwaugh1895
      @richardwaugh1895 2 года назад

      Actually wat you are paying for is not the best quality I can assure of that u pay alot of money for crap the leather is rubbish with so many imperfections wen u worked in a shoe factory for so many years u see a whole different side to these sort of companies that spend a fortune on advertising that's wat u are paying for is the name it's all machine work most of the process wat yor seing here is them showing u the steps just to look good

    • @richardwaugh1895
      @richardwaugh1895 2 года назад

      @Aurica _ interesting omg u don't get it do u ud rather pay 1000 pounds for a pair of shoes that lie about being the best quality then pay 100 pounds for a pair of shoes that are a decent pair and comfy but cus its not john lobb how pathetic

    • @Michael-4
      @Michael-4 2 года назад

      @@richardwaugh1895 What brand do you recommend then Richard? Do you think all UK makers are as bad?

    • @richardwaugh9121
      @richardwaugh9121 2 года назад

      @@Michael-4 no not all but having experience in that factory and the manager that's talking by the way has left its all for show all about branding they pay huge amounts of money on advertising because its owners hermes has shit loads of money they don't care about employees before I left I was on 8 pound 56 p at that point that was below minimum wage asked for a pound extra on my wage and basically sed I wasent worth that and 1 of the blokes doing the rough rounding is the bottom floor manager who is a alcoholic wen I was there and is still who goes in wasted stinking of alcohol and has been there ever since so u tell me that so call best shoe factory is the pits not worth spending yor good hard earn money wen u can go elsewhere

  • @muzamalgujjar0013
    @muzamalgujjar0013 2 года назад +1

    Elegant shoes

  • @is1dre
    @is1dre 3 года назад

    Incredible!

  • @jimjokinen5533
    @jimjokinen5533 2 года назад +2

    Wholesome, informative, a genuine joy to watch. Thanks for sharing!

  • @ianmedium
    @ianmedium 4 года назад +5

    Not to be mistaken with the real John Lobb of st James who only do bespoke and are of considerably higher quality. The two share name only!

    • @glenclough9080
      @glenclough9080 4 года назад

      ianmedium it is technically the same company though, all part of the John Lobb Ltd group which is now all owned by Hermes

    • @airborneSGT
      @airborneSGT 4 года назад +8

      @@glenclough9080 The John Lobb Bootmaker in London is still family owned and operated.

    • @glenclough9080
      @glenclough9080 4 года назад

      Manny Bamberg the shop may well be owned by the Lobb family but the brand is owned by Hermes

    • @karldelavigne8134
      @karldelavigne8134 4 года назад +6

      @@glenclough9080 It all used to be the same company but John Lobb Ltd sold the Paris operation to Hermes in the 1970s. The original company is still owned by the Lobb family. Hermes has the rights to the name only for its own factory-made shoes and the bespoke atelier in Paris. John Lobb Ltd in St. James's Street has exclusive use of the name for bespoke shoes in the UK. So Hermes does not own the "brand" as such.

  • @leonelsonclementi3905
    @leonelsonclementi3905 5 лет назад +11

    I'm afraid that he don't know how to button his suit jacket

    • @Michael-4
      @Michael-4 2 года назад

      In what way? Single breasted 2 button jackets are cut to hang with top button only. Unless you can see a third button, I can't.

    • @DrMikeOckhertz
      @DrMikeOckhertz Год назад

      He's a shoemaker, not a tailor.

  • @jeffgray8231
    @jeffgray8231 5 лет назад +12

    These are factory shoes not genuine handmade lobs different quality altogether

    • @karldelavigne8134
      @karldelavigne8134 4 года назад +5

      These are factory-made shoes for John Lobb (Hermes) of Paris, made in Northampton. The original John Lobb Ltd, which sold the Paris operation to Hermes in the 1970s, makes only bespoke shoes and is a different company.

    • @Horizon301.
      @Horizon301. 4 года назад +1

      They are still handmade, just not bespoke.

    • @Horizon301.
      @Horizon301. 2 года назад

      @Will Swift well yeah, it’s much more bespoke to yourself and probably has more hand built elements throughout production

    • @Horizon301.
      @Horizon301. 2 года назад

      @Will Swift that’s basically any other cheap shoe you can buy ahaha minus the custom fit. I would rather the handmade processes

  • @kennedyndungwa7585
    @kennedyndungwa7585 5 лет назад

    I love this

  • @zedrickapollo4290
    @zedrickapollo4290 Год назад

    So contrary to the belief, the shoes that was made from the factory were not shine and treated. It's a false statement that was inculcated by some people for money making only and hopefully can be corrected by many of us. Thank you

  • @kamilj.1907
    @kamilj.1907 9 месяцев назад

    Jest jeszcze jedna opcja - galosze / kalosze. Można kupić o zaskakująco dobrej przyczepności i po dotarciu do pracy kalosze zdejmujeny i zimą mamy skórzane podeszwy. Robię tak najczęściej bo gumowych podeszew prawie nie mam

  • @emmanuelgeraldo5337
    @emmanuelgeraldo5337 5 лет назад +2

    Saw one today lobb shoes great

  • @frosecold
    @frosecold 3 года назад

    Maybe I'm an uncultured swine, but I don't see the point of shoes that expensive

  • @HSIU851
    @HSIU851 5 лет назад +2

    JL竟然用機縫固特異……

  • @brettyh1
    @brettyh1 4 года назад +2

    How many of those workers own John Lobbs i wonder

    • @summerrr1
      @summerrr1 3 года назад +4

      How many Boeing workers own a 747?

    • @antoinev9733
      @antoinev9733 2 года назад

      EG workers wear EG shoes ... to work :)
      surely, JL dess the feet of his workers.

    • @richardwaugh1895
      @richardwaugh1895 2 года назад

      I have 2 pairs don't work in that shithole no more u get a pair every year for 50 pound but there crap place is full of agency workers and people that don't know wat there doing

  • @wysiwyg2489
    @wysiwyg2489 4 года назад

    I like the fact all employees don't wear jewelry at work, which may damage the leather. Not sure if this is by accident on the film or intentional, like company policy.

  • @par3caddy
    @par3caddy Год назад

    Gr8 video. I'm sharing this. Thank you.

  • @PradeepSingh028
    @PradeepSingh028 Год назад

    How can I buy in India ..??

  • @richardgrognard6394
    @richardgrognard6394 2 года назад

    quel prix pour ces chaussures merveilleuses ????

  • @richardwaugh1895
    @richardwaugh1895 3 года назад +2

    I worked there for years shocking place to work gone down hill past 10 years the leather they use is bad u pay a lot of money for there shoes and some of the people that work there do not give a crap I can tell u that

    • @Stantube1000
      @Stantube1000 3 года назад

      thanks for the info! which department did you work at?

    • @richardwaugh1895
      @richardwaugh1895 3 года назад +1

      Making room

    • @richardwaugh1895
      @richardwaugh1895 3 года назад +2

      Worked there for over 13 years doing a lot of jobs there only to be paid poor money the last 5 years I worked ther for I was getting paid 20 pence more than the minimum wage the job I was doing most shoe factorys have 2 people doing it I was bloody good at my job before the pandemic at full pelt 180 pairs that's on my own wiv no help while people stand around and do nothing shoe factorys have become places for not what u know its who u know they create titles for people and people that are yes men john lobb wants to make itself look good on the outside because they spend a fortune on advertising

    • @Stantube1000
      @Stantube1000 3 года назад +1

      @@richardwaugh1895 thanks for your answer, really interesting from the first hands. i've always had another question in my mind. do the workers in green, lobb, crockett jones get more than in loake of barker(for the exactly same job)?

    • @richardwaugh1895
      @richardwaugh1895 3 года назад +1

      @@Stantube1000yes they do

  • @rovercoupe7104
    @rovercoupe7104 2 года назад

    Beautiful. M.

  • @player9815
    @player9815 2 года назад

    hi guality

  • @twent19
    @twent19 4 года назад

    I hope these shoes last a very long time!

  • @b0ylab009
    @b0ylab009 5 лет назад +1

    £800? Are u kidding me.. Why they sell it at price of £1500 here in Japan? I don’t understand.

    • @JohnnyKass17
      @JohnnyKass17 4 года назад

      Because of high tariffs for imported goods into Japan. The tariffs seem to significantly increase pricing. You’re better off either buying Japanese made shoes or traveling to England and buying the shoes there. The same applies to American made shoes.

  • @kenmenth4305
    @kenmenth4305 4 года назад

    Beautiful hand made shoe‼️

  • @Alexander.Christian-0612
    @Alexander.Christian-0612 2 года назад +1

    I only buy these shoes at sale. Wouldn’t spend more than 800 to 1,000 Euro for them (retail price in Germany 1,200 to 1,600 Euro about). The luxury line with shoe trees included is better.
    These shoes are good, but too expensive.
    I have five pairs of them
    1. Westminster in brown burgundy
    2. Winchester in burgundy
    3. Chapel in dark brown
    4. Philipp 2 in chestnut double monk
    5. Philipp 2 in black oxford
    Heinrich Dinkelacker is better, I prefer shell cordovan. From about 700 to 900 Euro.
    Especially the leather inside is much better, but the shoes are less elegant.
    Made like bespoke shoes in Budapest. Vass from Budapest is similar, a bit more elegant.
    You get Dinkelacker in local German shops, but Vass only in one shop in Baden-Württemberg (I live in Berlin), it’s easier to buy them when traveling to Budapest. I paid about 650 Euro there, shoe tree included. Shell cordovan. Boxcalf about 200 Euro cheaper.

  • @pedrocols
    @pedrocols 5 лет назад +2

    These shoes are pretty overpriced.

  • @rovercoupe7104
    @rovercoupe7104 4 года назад

    In what way are these shoes better than Loakes? M.

    • @phongmoua1437
      @phongmoua1437 4 года назад +4

      Rover Coupe the biggest difference is the leather quality and the finishing details. It is definitely a decreasing margin of return, but it really depends on what you value. For people who really enjoy the little details it may be worth it but for someone who mainly focus on shoes from a utilitarian perspective it may not be. The leather is superior as the John Lobb company is owned by the Hermès group and has access to the best leathers in the world. John Lobb’s shoes also has features such as an invisible channel, a more defined last, as well as more structure an integral stiffeners to give the best support a shoe can give. A pair of Loakes are by no means a bad shoe, it just simply depends on whether or not those finishing touches are really something you value.

    • @rovercoupe7104
      @rovercoupe7104 4 года назад +1

      Creator & Creation That was very interesting and helpful, thank you. M.

  • @stevendouglas3860
    @stevendouglas3860 5 лет назад

    Factory shoe

  • @Javi_C
    @Javi_C 4 года назад

    :)

  • @paradisewearslimited5965
    @paradisewearslimited5965 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks so much for this video.
    I'm a Nigerian and I studied Architecture but I've been making shoes for years, I love to study shoe making with John lobb. Can you please help? Thanks

  • @kevinkevin-hm5zy
    @kevinkevin-hm5zy 4 года назад

    too expensive, not worth 800 ponds,just pipeline shoes

  • @pavijan
    @pavijan 6 лет назад

    Hand made only inspection

  • @givenjadecorre7907
    @givenjadecorre7907 5 лет назад +3

    they made it like the doctor martens.. hahaha WTF why so expensive?? its not pure handmade

    • @Enrico-
      @Enrico- 3 года назад

      They're nothing like Doc Martens, Docs aren't even goodyear welted.

  • @mikewinston8709
    @mikewinston8709 8 месяцев назад

    Just cheap factory made shoes. These are NOT John Lobb Bespoke.

  • @MrSlitskirts
    @MrSlitskirts 5 лет назад

    Great clip. They are probably expensive due to their name.

    • @golfraven5669
      @golfraven5669 4 года назад

      Film & TV John Lobb name is now owned by Hermès and hance the extra price tag. They make those still in England and France. However John Lobb bespoke shoes are still made by the original owners and they have a great store in London.