The nerfs were moreso on the Chieftain, but still not enough. The nerfs on 279E are slight. It needs re-consideration on additional nerfs. The big problems are, the nerfs did not address the large problems created by these tanks. Chieftain needs a larger cupola, and a gun-hole front turret weakness. Chieftain also having ricochet angle hull isnt a good idea also. See how they reduced Prog 65 ricochet angle hull? 279E needs weakness implementation into the armor, and more HEAT pen nerf I would say reverting 279E belly armor back to pre-launch, 30mm not 55mm it has now. HEAT pen to 310mm, track traverse to 25deg/sec Nerfing their speeds, DPM just makes them frustrating to play, for the user. Not easier to solve, among enemies. Wargaming just doesn't know how to solve problems. Its like 4005. 4005 alpha is bad for the game. HE mechanic is bad for the game So they decided to nerf 4005 to prevent it from being too dangerous. What they did is NOT NERFING the alpha, just crippling the tanks mobility. They just dont have a sensible balance department. They dont play their own game
@@jibrilherrcherofhorny4448 Alot of tanks guns are 122mm in tiers 8/9/10. It effectively removes alot of ricochet angle, thereby now allowing alot of overmatch. Tanks like Chieftain, 113, FV4202 do not have alot of hull armor. But can be extremely annoying to pen with AP/APCR because just a few degrees angling, or induced rolling back and forth elevation can make them ricochet angle. Which tends to just have people solve this by just spamming HEAT. They removed alot of this occurrence from prog 65. They need to do the same for tanks like CS-63
@@demetrioshristovski4518I could not agree more. FV4005 is an actual cancer. I can understand, why someone is driving this artillery with a sniper scope: it essentially comes down to rush, an excitement, similar to gambling in casino, when you you actually penning and one shooting enemies. But man, this tank is really bad for the game. Because of the rng, the sh*tbarn may feel as accurate as Leo 1 sometimes. It should be totally rebalanced alpha wise, giving it 1200-1300 would still be horrendous, but not as horrendous as it is now. I would actually rebalance it and make it something like Conway with the gun/turret selection. You could have turret, and 600 AP alpha with excellent DPM and Conway turret (basically Conway just with better stats. I would actually play this, because I like tds with turret and decent mobility). Or, you can have your SPG cannon in this barn like turret, still with lesser alpha. Nerfing accuracy will result in nothing, because, as I said earlier, even with the most accurate gun, rng is the decision maker and not the player
@@shark_de_mique Major TD overhaul was done for this reason, removing 850 down to 750 alpha. It was easy, no prems at the time. Thats why they made Ho Ri, SP 114 and 268V4 have lower alpha too But the prob with 4005, was 215B 183 was a prem (reward) and WG didnt want to touch the 183 HESH. So they just wrecked 4005 in other categories, and people hate being against it. And hate playing it too. Drop the jagpz to 950/950/1200. Drop both 183 to 1050/1050/1450. Remove the high pen HESH, and give it semi-HESH like Chieftain, 160 pen, lower the cost so it isn't prem round. Give it new 350 AP pen prem round.
literally the first game i saw after the 279 got "nerfed", was a 279 player on prokhorovka getting like 5k damage and like 6k spotting on the 1-2 line. and he took only like 3 shots of damage when like 7 people were firing at him. guy just charged down the bushes taking no damage and spotting everyone.
@@GenHummel96it should have this kind of armor, that's the specialty. They should just make this thing have like the worst gun ever. 1600dpm, 2.8sec aim time, 0.48 accuracy. That would make this tank have less impact while still having it's main strength
@@GenHummel96 Exactly. And so the main problem being impenetrable front/turret stays the same while the dpm and mobility is shitter which means that the tank was effectively made even more broken than before cause now when you can't capitalize so much on mobility and dpm you have to abuse hull down position even more to be successful. Which in the end makes playing the tank more toxic for everyone involved while still remaining unbalanced to all hell. WG's balance ™
@@Jallahz these changes would lead to nobody playing it! Making a reward tank more RNG- and Team-dependant? Nobody would work his ass off for a "reward" like that 🤣 In my Opinion even with armor nerfs 279(e) would perform same as pre-nerf, simply because 60% of wot playerbase suck massively and will fire auto-aim on it or at least wont learn the weakspots 😅
@@sandboy5880 yep, thats the point... With the crappy dpm these tanks are having now plus trollish premium penetration, why should any good player puah with these condition? Relying on team mostly is a bad idea, so i now will sit in a hulldown spot in my crippled reward tank and will wait for the enemy to do a stupid one-by-one push and farm them! If two or more enemies push me together, i hope that my sniping team will back me up and deal with them! Congrats WG, you turned them from OP-attack tanks to OP-hard-to-dig-out-tanks, whats even worse for lower tier opponents imho!
I do have to disagree on the not noticing the pen on like 279, there are multiple targets you can realiably pen with 330+ HEAT but not with the 320. I do like this change but still you said it doesnt matter.
Part of their issues was the all round ability and +/- 2 MM. Big question mark if they really need 4th fieldmode, I say Hell no! When I play TX, I don't mind them much or not at all, I deal with em when I need to and its boring as hell if they are no arty in that game. 279 is still a really strong tank but the nerf on dmg is helping normal tech tree tanks alot in TX MM. On -2 MM, not at all and that's still a big FU from WG. Chief, needs a bigger weakness on his puny little cupola. Double size and add one on each side. Funny that all the changes made in the game and maps are adapted for this particular type of tank. As usual Iyouxin, great video.
They are still very strong but you can see the nerf has hit them, they have lost about 900 and about 700 on MOE requirements since the nerf. Also often its enough just to nerf tanks to stop people spamming them so much, people hear 'nerf' and they decided not to play the tanks. Also part of their issues was the allround ability, Chief with turbo was like medium speed, and the DPM was decent and 279e was fast heavy, now they can't rush to positions and can't fight out of swarm situations as easily. Makes it easier for people to catch them out of position.
of course nerfs are to lower expectations. But it doesn't fix the problems of the tanks, what makes them so troublesome. It just makes them more troubling to play themselves. Not wanting to play the tank, by making supporting elements of the tank that aren't as problematic now diarrhea, isn't the right way of nerfing.
But this ability to get out of trouble was why everybody wanted to have them! Simply nerf their armor to an degree they are not "absolutely invincible" and can hold a position vs 4 players on their own! They can keep their speed and dpm if their armor cant stand beeing beaten up by 4 players at the same time! With these changes, they took all from these tanks what made me wanting them (good mobility with good dpm and high prem pen! I mean, shit on armor, mobility and reliable dmg dealing potential is what i want!)
It was not problem the tanks... I mean yes they was strong and still but the problem was the combination... Strong tanks in hands of the strongest players with foul gold, and still the same problem
Nope, they are op, and this video is an evidence. Plus, even bad players perform good with these tanks. I saw accounts that have 1000 battles with something like 2500 average dpg in chief and 1300 in any other tier 10. This fact proves that these tanks are op even more
@@shark_de_mique with 1000 battles you don't get even tech tree T10. Anyway that was not my point. The point is that 99% of the players with this tanks are great players and gold spamers
@@koynelistifado 1000 in chief only, I don't remember how much in total. 99% is too much, 70-80 -- is more believable. Still, it is a bad idea for to give anybody, moreover good players, OP tanks
Everyone has his opinion, the facts are that now you don’t see chieftain in pub matches or 279e as much as before. Now they replaced them with KPZ German havie , witch is kind of the new chieftain, but avayable to everyone who wants to spend money in digital pixel to feel cool. Are not anymore the clans leader to decide who can or can not have a reward tank according on how much people had to pay to them under the table to be able to play the campaign or rig the game. Was disgusting trade and I strongly believe that at least the developer of the game have the right to profit from their job. If some one has to make money are the owner of the game.
Thanks for a great video. On point, as usual. Daki had a great commentary about the buffs and nerfs, just when the news dropped, I am not sure if the video is still on twitch, he said the same thing, as you mentioned: these tanks are still OP, just slightly more frustrating to play with, and also they require even more nerfs
I am probably gonna get a lot of hate for this but I wanna say that I am kinda sad that I didnt get my hands on the old chief. I have always wanted to try getting atleast 2 marks and have those tryhard sessions. I wanted to feel the power that this beast had. The speed, the armor ... Now after the nerf this feeling is kinda gone. By no means I am not saying that this is a bad thing. It was definitely needed. But still.. I will forever feel that I missed out on something. Sure i got 279 before the nerfs but i didnt really fell in love with it I had much more fun playing S conq. The thing with 279 is that you rely on its armor so much that it becomes unreliable atleast for me if it makes sense.
They can't nerf these tanks like the Kranvagn, cuz these are reward tanks really "hard" to get, otherwise it would become another T-22 medium deep into the void.
What Chief and 279(e) REALLY NEED are nerfs of the Armor! Let them keep their speed and premium ammo, imho these have never been the problem with any of them, but pls WG, nerf their armor at least at some parts! Chieftain Turret ring from 350mm to 250mm and slightly easier to hit cupola as well as increased size of the penetratable area below the gun! For 279(e) simply make the cupolas less trollish and decrease the armor of the "brim" right above the tracks and at the sides of the frontal upper glacis! These changes should do way better job balancing-wise that all that sh*t WG messed these tanks up with! PS: im saying this as an average to good player who is NOT OWNING any of these two tanks!
Here is the problem with 279 - it's a menace for 8-9 lvl with no gold ammo But 10 lvl with gold ammo is able to pen him in most cases, making his armor unreliable That's why playing vs it might be such a pain, and playing this tank just brings you frustration
Idk, it sucks meeting them in random, but you can just go to the next game and forget about it. The true balance move is to remove them from any competitive game mode like clan war.
Chieftain is good-looking too, I'm pretty sure there are players who play certain tanks because they (not just chieftain) look pretty ( no massive cupola, modern-looking and such).
that smile after he said , that Obj.279 is unplayble make me almost piss myseft in lought , that smile , what tell you "Yep , this is joke" or "Im clown when Im saying that" , man this youtuber is one of the best , not because of his gameplay , but because hes really funny :D
These 2 tanks are still idiot-proof as they were. The only difference is now they farm you a bit slower. When I saw the article about these nerfs, I was happy but I was sad at the same time. They did address these 2 tanks' issue but they didn't do it properly. They don't want to make those Chieftain/279e enjoyers too mad, which is just pathetic. The same happens with broken premiums never get nerfed. They're afraid of making less money even if they have to keep the game in such a bad state.
In my opinion these 2 tanks didnt need the nerfs after all. This makes them more worthless to fight for and get them. They should be a well deserved reward tanks (except for the people which bought them either with bonds or real money) which they should be either good or OP meta tanks. I am personally ok if i meet them in the random battles no matter what player is driving them even if they are more than just one 279e or chief or both in one team. They actually should have changed their MM so they can almost never meet tier 8 and a bit less often tier 9 tanks...........
Seriously, I cannot get the point: I mean, better player is getting the better tank. That doesn't make any sense. Imagine CS or dota to have special op weapon/characters for good players. That is so dumb
Also, how you can say, that 279e is well deserved? The missions, at least some of them are so stupid, like blocking mission, for instance, you just need to be lucky both rng and mm wise, because if the enemy team has humans and not bots, they will not shoot you in your unpennable turret or side. Light tank track mission. Ht and light tank cap missions. You wanna say that they involves skill? Are you for real. And don't even get me started on artillery missions, that, yes, could be skipped, but a lot people playing artillery just because of them. Very healthy for the game, for people not to play the match, but be focussed on some dumb missions to get the OP tank in the end
That triple arty spam in the last game was so ass. The focus makes sense when you're in an OP tank, but when Iyouxin goes upspotted and those three arty focus something else it's even worse. I'd have to alt + F4 for the day after that match.
It is the same tank but they have change more then just stats. I played Chief , and never happend in last 2 years , to get ammo rack 4 times , and engine fires , and a few turret damage , olso a few broken guns .
I think it's far more balanced now, but still strong. Maybe a slight reload nerf is still needed. Mostly this tank is played by the most skilled players though which will skew the stats.
chief deserved the nerf, but i don't feel like the 279e missions fit the tank anymore. You need to be a good player anyways to get it so ofc the winrate will be high due to good players playing them. Now the grind to get good RNG to beat some missions feels disappointing once you get the 279e tbh.
60tp with t3 mobility improvement system, bond vert stabs and rammer feels like cheating. Want to hit shots like that 60tp from mountain pass then try this build.
279 and Chieftain ruined the game. They are the reason WOT has lost a lot of players. The majority are not unicoms and just casual players who got tired of being stomped by tanks like these. I loved the game and was a little better than average and just a casual player but because of the meta and such have just reduced my playing to only now and then. If I happen to log on and get stomped once or twice as a team I am out. Games are supposed to be fun and challenging but WOT now is just a roll of the dice.
That tank never were in top stronest tanks - real depresion around -3 deg makes it unplayable in fact. Hes only one plus is that doesnt have down plate so morons who are using autoaim bounce more often than usuall. If you meet agaist human, not subplayer he will pen it 8/10
the unicoms will still make 3-4-5 k every game with 279 and chif so what the f@king nerf we are talking about ?? i feel like WG cheated me and he doesn't care in the slightest how much effort players put in to get these tanks , theirs 100 ways how to balance this tanks but they did the most rigid one , never get mm with tier 8s and 9s , probably the simplest and best one .
@@demetrioshristovski4518 now the 260 is op 2 ?? lol 277 is way better , i dont have problems fighting against all this ''broken op '' tanks when im at my tier 10 , only the noobs and those that cant get thair hands over those tanks are whining and believe me they will still have the same problem caz 80% those playing chief and 279 are very strong players
@@TAXOPAREI l dont know what planet you are from, but on earth and playing WOT, yes obj 260 is OP. l did not say broken. But it is OP. l never said it was pre nerf 279E or Chief, but now post nerf it is stronger than ever. 0bj 260 is 5,625 avg combined for 3 Mk. The only tanks higher are Quiln, and Carro45 which so few people have and even fewer play. 260 is superior to 277 in everything except HP and alpha, which is only +50 more alpha and 100 HP. To which heavy tanks out there already do more than 490 alpha and have way more than 2200 HP anyway. 260 is faster, more DPM, better armor, better gun handling. Daki, kajzoo acknowledge that 260 is superior to 277.
@@demetrioshristovski4518 i have all this tanks u call them op and have a personal opinion what im talking about ,do u ever have played the 260 ? ? average at best ,277 is the fisrt choice at cw between 260 , ,les then 30% of all players can get this tanks and 20% of them are unicoms , that' why you see these ceilings avg combined for 3 Mk , why is it so hard for u to get that in ur head ? , did u see how the is4 and 60 tp fuck up the broken op ufo space tank that was played from a unicom ? if u don't know how to deal with them that does not mean that they are broken op , this game is this game is a shadow of it's old good times and still regretting i didn't sold my account wen i could get a lot of money
@@TAXOPAREI That is why l didn't refer to just my opinion, and provided expert opinion. It has ludicrous higher reqs. It is thought of as more powerful by elite players. 0f course reqs are going to be lower, since 277 is a tech tree tank. But 277 reqs a full 1,000 lower. Daki and Kazjoo are not average No one cares about ''do you have this tank or not'' That is irrelevant. And taking replacement tanks because you dont have it is even worse. Because some sad sack has to take WZ1 5A or 277 or 113 BECAUSE they do not have 260 is an retard argument Do you think the same way with pre-nerf chiefs and 279E? Because so few have them, take super conq and 60TP/IS4 instead respectively? It does not work that way at all. Thats incredibly dumb. Take any player with 55+WR, 9k+ PR. And look at their 260, and look at their 277. PRetty sure their 260 has higher DPG
Skill says that he doesnt hate arty players he hates arty class, but I hate arty players with a passion. Some arty main in my game said that did you see this on iyouxins channel. I was like he still plays other classes and you have likr fucking 100k games in arty.
I instantly report 279e when I play tier 8 heavy and tank is in enemy team. Like, what can I do against that tank? This is my way to send message to WG.
279 was only strong against tier 8 and 9 (not always) because the upper plate is very weak but shaped in a way where you need to be either taller of have around 280pen ap or heat. against tier 10 the 279e always melted tbh. edit to clear what im tryinng to say is. iyouxin is still way better than the average 279e player, the 279e is all about consistency so anyone can get it over time. so many 279e random players dont know that the 279e loves high ground and forget it doesnt have a lower plate.
Those tanks are crazy good but the other truth is that most people who cry about them are straight out bad players which dont position themselfs well and dont have any clue when and where to fight against those tanks. They just run like chickens and expect others to do the job. 🙈🙉🙊
only true if there was no RNG in the game. Because you can just miss shots due to luck the 279e is overpowered, if every shot hit exactly where you aim then it would be skill issue
just to show you how TRUELY OP these 2 tanks were before the nerf
The nerfs were moreso on the Chieftain, but still not enough.
The nerfs on 279E are slight. It needs re-consideration on additional nerfs.
The big problems are, the nerfs did not address the large problems created by these tanks.
Chieftain needs a larger cupola, and a gun-hole front turret weakness.
Chieftain also having ricochet angle hull isnt a good idea also. See how they reduced Prog 65 ricochet angle hull?
279E needs weakness implementation into the armor, and more HEAT pen nerf
I would say reverting 279E belly armor back to pre-launch, 30mm not 55mm it has now. HEAT pen to 310mm, track traverse to 25deg/sec
Nerfing their speeds, DPM just makes them frustrating to play, for the user. Not easier to solve, among enemies.
Wargaming just doesn't know how to solve problems. Its like 4005. 4005 alpha is bad for the game. HE mechanic is bad for the game
So they decided to nerf 4005 to prevent it from being too dangerous. What they did is NOT NERFING the alpha, just crippling the tanks mobility.
They just dont have a sensible balance department. They dont play their own game
@@demetrioshristovski4518but they didn't remove the auto ricochet of progetto they just nerfed it from 50 mm to 40 mm
@@jibrilherrcherofhorny4448 Alot of tanks guns are 122mm in tiers 8/9/10. It effectively removes alot of ricochet angle, thereby now allowing alot of overmatch.
Tanks like Chieftain, 113, FV4202 do not have alot of hull armor. But can be extremely annoying to pen with AP/APCR because just a few degrees angling, or induced rolling back and forth elevation can make them ricochet angle. Which tends to just have people solve this by just spamming HEAT.
They removed alot of this occurrence from prog 65. They need to do the same for tanks like CS-63
@@demetrioshristovski4518I could not agree more. FV4005 is an actual cancer. I can understand, why someone is driving this artillery with a sniper scope: it essentially comes down to rush, an excitement, similar to gambling in casino, when you you actually penning and one shooting enemies.
But man, this tank is really bad for the game. Because of the rng, the sh*tbarn may feel as accurate as Leo 1 sometimes. It should be totally rebalanced alpha wise, giving it 1200-1300 would still be horrendous, but not as horrendous as it is now.
I would actually rebalance it and make it something like Conway with the gun/turret selection. You could have turret, and 600 AP alpha with excellent DPM and Conway turret (basically Conway just with better stats. I would actually play this, because I like tds with turret and decent mobility).
Or, you can have your SPG cannon in this barn like turret, still with lesser alpha. Nerfing accuracy will result in nothing, because, as I said earlier, even with the most accurate gun, rng is the decision maker and not the player
@@shark_de_mique
Major TD overhaul was done for this reason, removing 850 down to 750 alpha. It was easy, no prems at the time. Thats why they made Ho Ri, SP 114 and 268V4 have lower alpha too
But the prob with 4005, was 215B 183 was a prem (reward) and WG didnt want to touch the 183 HESH. So they just wrecked 4005 in other categories, and people hate being against it. And hate playing it too.
Drop the jagpz to 950/950/1200. Drop both 183 to 1050/1050/1450. Remove the high pen HESH, and give it semi-HESH like Chieftain, 160 pen, lower the cost so it isn't prem round. Give it new 350 AP pen prem round.
literally the first game i saw after the 279 got "nerfed", was a 279 player on prokhorovka getting like 5k damage and like 6k spotting on the 1-2 line. and he took only like 3 shots of damage when like 7 people were firing at him. guy just charged down the bushes taking no damage and spotting everyone.
That is because most people don't know where to shoot it.
@@mrg09211976 Agreed
@@mrg09211976"i am an idiot hence nerf enemy tank"
Imagine nerfing the aspects of a tank that were actually not the main problem with it.
+1 sh*t on dpm and mobility, these have never been the problem!
What sucks at these tanks is their godlike armor!
@@GenHummel96it should have this kind of armor, that's the specialty. They should just make this thing have like the worst gun ever. 1600dpm, 2.8sec aim time, 0.48 accuracy. That would make this tank have less impact while still having it's main strength
@@GenHummel96
Exactly.
And so the main problem being impenetrable front/turret stays the same while the dpm and mobility is shitter which means that the tank was effectively made even more broken than before cause now when you can't capitalize so much on mobility and dpm you have to abuse hull down position even more to be successful. Which in the end makes playing the tank more toxic for everyone involved while still remaining unbalanced to all hell.
WG's balance ™
@@Jallahz these changes would lead to nobody playing it! Making a reward tank more RNG- and Team-dependant?
Nobody would work his ass off for a "reward" like that 🤣
In my Opinion even with armor nerfs 279(e) would perform same as pre-nerf, simply because 60% of wot playerbase suck massively and will fire auto-aim on it or at least wont learn the weakspots 😅
@@sandboy5880 yep, thats the point... With the crappy dpm these tanks are having now plus trollish premium penetration, why should any good player puah with these condition? Relying on team mostly is a bad idea, so i now will sit in a hulldown spot in my crippled reward tank and will wait for the enemy to do a stupid one-by-one push and farm them!
If two or more enemies push me together, i hope that my sniping team will back me up and deal with them!
Congrats WG, you turned them from OP-attack tanks to OP-hard-to-dig-out-tanks, whats even worse for lower tier opponents imho!
I do have to disagree on the not noticing the pen on like 279, there are multiple targets you can realiably pen with 330+ HEAT but not with the 320. I do like this change but still you said it doesnt matter.
Part of their issues was the all round ability and +/- 2 MM.
Big question mark if they really need 4th fieldmode, I say Hell no!
When I play TX, I don't mind them much or not at all, I deal with em when I need to and its boring as hell if they are no arty in that game.
279 is still a really strong tank but the nerf on dmg is helping normal tech tree tanks alot in TX MM. On -2 MM, not at all and that's still a big FU from WG.
Chief, needs a bigger weakness on his puny little cupola. Double size and add one on each side. Funny that all the changes made in the game and maps are adapted for this particular type of tank.
As usual Iyouxin, great video.
They are still very strong but you can see the nerf has hit them, they have lost about 900 and about 700 on MOE requirements since the nerf. Also often its enough just to nerf tanks to stop people spamming them so much, people hear 'nerf' and they decided not to play the tanks. Also part of their issues was the allround ability, Chief with turbo was like medium speed, and the DPM was decent and 279e was fast heavy, now they can't rush to positions and can't fight out of swarm situations as easily. Makes it easier for people to catch them out of position.
of course nerfs are to lower expectations. But it doesn't fix the problems of the tanks, what makes them so troublesome. It just makes them more troubling to play themselves.
Not wanting to play the tank, by making supporting elements of the tank that aren't as problematic now diarrhea, isn't the right way of nerfing.
But this ability to get out of trouble was why everybody wanted to have them!
Simply nerf their armor to an degree they are not "absolutely invincible" and can hold a position vs 4 players on their own!
They can keep their speed and dpm if their armor cant stand beeing beaten up by 4 players at the same time!
With these changes, they took all from these tanks what made me wanting them (good mobility with good dpm and high prem pen! I mean, shit on armor, mobility and reliable dmg dealing potential is what i want!)
Yeah. No. They are still way OP
It was not problem the tanks... I mean yes they was strong and still but the problem was the combination... Strong tanks in hands of the strongest players with foul gold, and still the same problem
Nope, they are op, and this video is an evidence. Plus, even bad players perform good with these tanks. I saw accounts that have 1000 battles with something like 2500 average dpg in chief and 1300 in any other tier 10. This fact proves that these tanks are op even more
@@shark_de_mique with 1000 battles you don't get even tech tree T10. Anyway that was not my point. The point is that 99% of the players with this tanks are great players and gold spamers
@@koynelistifado 1000 in chief only, I don't remember how much in total. 99% is too much, 70-80 -- is more believable. Still, it is a bad idea for to give anybody, moreover good players, OP tanks
@@koynelistifado I get your point, I agree
2:49 iyouxin casually saying sauce
25:28 lmao F that leopard getting HE penned by the jag
Everyone has his opinion, the facts are that now you don’t see chieftain in pub matches or 279e as much as before. Now they replaced them with KPZ German havie , witch is kind of the new chieftain, but avayable to everyone who wants to spend money in digital pixel to feel cool. Are not anymore the clans leader to decide who can or can not have a reward tank according on how much people had to pay to them under the table to be able to play the campaign or rig the game. Was disgusting trade and I strongly believe that at least the developer of the game have the right to profit from their job. If some one has to make money are the owner of the game.
Thanks for a great video. On point, as usual. Daki had a great commentary about the buffs and nerfs, just when the news dropped, I am not sure if the video is still on twitch, he said the same thing, as you mentioned: these tanks are still OP, just slightly more frustrating to play with, and also they require even more nerfs
I am so happy the chieftain got nerfed. Was too frustrating to see those stat ladders braking games. They didn’t nerf it enough still.
I am probably gonna get a lot of hate for this but I wanna say that I am kinda sad that I didnt get my hands on the old chief. I have always wanted to try getting atleast 2 marks and have those tryhard sessions. I wanted to feel the power that this beast had. The speed, the armor ... Now after the nerf this feeling is kinda gone. By no means I am not saying that this is a bad thing. It was definitely needed. But still.. I will forever feel that I missed out on something. Sure i got 279 before the nerfs but i didnt really fell in love with it I had much more fun playing S conq. The thing with 279 is that you rely on its armor so much that it becomes unreliable atleast for me if it makes sense.
Yes, I feel you. Had a great time with chief
chief is still the hull down beast that it was. Its still fast and once youre in position you are impenetrable
Loving this new long video format
They can't nerf these tanks like the Kranvagn, cuz these are reward tanks really "hard" to get, otherwise it would become another T-22 medium deep into the void.
chieftain is alreafy in the void, havent met a single one since the nerf, and i certainly havent touched mine either.
@@AverageWannabe its cuz ur trash honey, if you cant have good games with the chief you should play another game
What Chief and 279(e) REALLY NEED are nerfs of the Armor!
Let them keep their speed and premium ammo, imho these have never been the problem with any of them, but pls WG, nerf their armor at least at some parts!
Chieftain Turret ring from 350mm to 250mm and slightly easier to hit cupola as well as increased size of the penetratable area below the gun!
For 279(e) simply make the cupolas less trollish and decrease the armor of the "brim" right above the tracks and at the sides of the frontal upper glacis!
These changes should do way better job balancing-wise that all that sh*t WG messed these tanks up with!
PS: im saying this as an average to good player who is NOT OWNING any of these two tanks!
Actually they are mostly stopped being used in clan wars . The nerfs actually did help . You are just an amazing player .
Here is the problem with 279 - it's a menace for 8-9 lvl with no gold ammo
But 10 lvl with gold ammo is able to pen him in most cases, making his armor unreliable
That's why playing vs it might be such a pain, and playing this tank just brings you frustration
Cheftain shoots better moving like crazy than my Grille 15 with .21 dispersion fully aimed.
Idk, it sucks meeting them in random, but you can just go to the next game and forget about it. The true balance move is to remove them from any competitive game mode like clan war.
Chieftain is good-looking too, I'm pretty sure there are players who play certain tanks because they (not just chieftain) look pretty ( no massive cupola, modern-looking and such).
they should change the obj 279e mission requirements. some are unplayable, unachieveble
that smile after he said , that Obj.279 is unplayble make me almost piss myseft in lought , that smile , what tell you "Yep , this is joke" or "Im clown when Im saying that" , man this youtuber is one of the best , not because of his gameplay , but because hes really funny :D
Glad you liked it XD 🤣
@@iyouxintwitch Yeah , it was best :D That make my day
The speed and dpm of the chief are the biggest nerf
These 2 tanks are still idiot-proof as they were.
The only difference is now they farm you a bit slower.
When I saw the article about these nerfs, I was happy but I was sad at the same time.
They did address these 2 tanks' issue but they didn't do it properly.
They don't want to make those Chieftain/279e enjoyers too mad, which is just pathetic.
The same happens with broken premiums never get nerfed.
They're afraid of making less money even if they have to keep the game in such a bad state.
In my opinion these 2 tanks didnt need the nerfs after all. This makes them more worthless to fight for and get them. They should be a well deserved reward tanks (except for the people which bought them either with bonds or real money) which they should be either good or OP meta tanks. I am personally ok if i meet them in the random battles no matter what player is driving them even if they are more than just one 279e or chief or both in one team. They actually should have changed their MM so they can almost never meet tier 8 and a bit less often tier 9 tanks...........
i agree with you, i worked so hard to have the chieftain. and now is just a piece of shit collecting pixel dust in my garage. Feels bad.
decent troll
Ahaha, chief and 279e lovers are whining about the nerfs, what could be better. Plus, the nerfs were not even that harsh, man, this community
Seriously, I cannot get the point: I mean, better player is getting the better tank. That doesn't make any sense. Imagine CS or dota to have special op weapon/characters for good players. That is so dumb
Also, how you can say, that 279e is well deserved? The missions, at least some of them are so stupid, like blocking mission, for instance, you just need to be lucky both rng and mm wise, because if the enemy team has humans and not bots, they will not shoot you in your unpennable turret or side.
Light tank track mission. Ht and light tank cap missions. You wanna say that they involves skill? Are you for real.
And don't even get me started on artillery missions, that, yes, could be skipped, but a lot people playing artillery just because of them. Very healthy for the game, for people not to play the match, but be focussed on some dumb missions to get the OP tank in the end
That triple arty spam in the last game was so ass. The focus makes sense when you're in an OP tank, but when Iyouxin goes upspotted and those three arty focus something else it's even worse. I'd have to alt + F4 for the day after that match.
It is the same tank but they have change more then just stats. I played Chief , and never happend in last 2 years , to get ammo rack 4 times , and engine fires , and a few turret damage , olso a few broken guns .
chief is hot garbage now
I think it's far more balanced now, but still strong. Maybe a slight reload nerf is still needed. Mostly this tank is played by the most skilled players though which will skew the stats.
chief deserved the nerf, but i don't feel like the 279e missions fit the tank anymore. You need to be a good player anyways to get it so ofc the winrate will be high due to good players playing them. Now the grind to get good RNG to beat some missions feels disappointing once you get the 279e tbh.
no gold? i guess i need to try getting all tanks and mark them without any gold
They should just tierlock them to tier 10. No nerf needed.
Almost get 279 then 279 was nerfed ....
That arty focus in the Highway game is just disgusting... That class is just toxic...
bro where is ur old channel?
i miss the videos
RUclips deleted it : /
60tp with t3 mobility improvement system, bond vert stabs and rammer feels like cheating. Want to hit shots like that 60tp from mountain pass then try this build.
4,300 avg at this deck in 60tp.Just pure devastator runining 45km/h with 750 alpha
Next update, wargaming will give the 279 10 degrees of gun depression because these nerfs killed the tank
since the chieftqin is dead 279e became even more meta in clanwars.
@@AverageWannabe Weren't 279e's and chieftains banned from those games?
@@riyamu7740 no just nerfed
@@AverageWannabe Another wargaming L
I think e3 and jgpz e100 is better counter
JGPZ E100 is a pile of trash though and chief and 279 hulldown will have no issue.
usually those who cry about nerf are children
they are too young to do some math and understand DEVs dont want to kill theyre creations
LoL
The last game I was aboutta smash my mouse to the wall arty raining on you whole game and wtf 720 from the arty.
when u play challenge with skill4u you play defrence like that obj 279
People thinking this tank is balanced even after nerfs lol
World of Tanks players delusional as always.
Gimme 279e I will give to U thumbs up.
279 and Chieftain ruined the game. They are the reason WOT has lost a lot of players. The majority are not unicoms and just casual players who got tired of being stomped by tanks like these. I loved the game and was a little better than average and just a casual player but because of the meta and such have just reduced my playing to only now and then. If I happen to log on and get stomped once or twice as a team I am out. Games are supposed to be fun and challenging but WOT now is just a roll of the dice.
bro, you hate chief gun? then I am genuinely wondering how bad IS-4 gun compared to chief XD
That tank never were in top stronest tanks - real depresion around -3 deg makes it unplayable in fact. Hes only one plus is that doesnt have down plate so morons who are using autoaim bounce more often than usuall. If you meet agaist human, not subplayer he will pen it 8/10
the unicoms will still make 3-4-5 k every game with 279 and chif so what the f@king nerf we are talking about ?? i feel like WG cheated me and he doesn't care in the slightest how much effort players put in to get these tanks , theirs 100 ways how to balance this tanks but they did the most rigid one , never get mm with tier 8s and 9s , probably the simplest and best one .
Great players get 4-5k already in any tier 10 tank already, except lighttanks.
In Chief and 279E and 260, they play for 5-7k
@@demetrioshristovski4518 now the 260 is op 2 ?? lol 277 is way better , i dont have problems fighting against all this ''broken op '' tanks when im at my tier 10 , only the noobs and those that cant get thair hands over those tanks are whining and believe me they will still have the same problem caz 80% those playing chief and 279 are very strong players
@@TAXOPAREI
l dont know what planet you are from, but on earth and playing WOT, yes obj 260 is OP. l did not say broken. But it is OP. l never said it was pre nerf 279E or Chief, but now post nerf it is stronger than ever.
0bj 260 is 5,625 avg combined for 3 Mk. The only tanks higher are Quiln, and Carro45 which so few people have and even fewer play.
260 is superior to 277 in everything except HP and alpha, which is only +50 more alpha and 100 HP. To which heavy tanks out there already do more than 490 alpha and have way more than 2200 HP anyway.
260 is faster, more DPM, better armor, better gun handling.
Daki, kajzoo acknowledge that 260 is superior to 277.
@@demetrioshristovski4518 i have all this tanks u call them op and have a personal opinion what im talking about ,do u ever have played the 260 ? ? average at best ,277 is the fisrt choice at cw between 260 , ,les then 30% of all players can get this tanks and 20% of them are unicoms , that' why you see these ceilings avg combined for 3 Mk , why is it so hard for u to get that in ur head ? , did u see how the is4 and 60 tp fuck up the broken op ufo space tank that was played from a unicom ? if u don't know how to deal with them that does not mean that they are broken op , this game is this game is a shadow of it's old good times and still regretting i didn't sold my account wen i could get a lot of money
@@TAXOPAREI
That is why l didn't refer to just my opinion, and provided expert opinion.
It has ludicrous higher reqs. It is thought of as more powerful by elite players.
0f course reqs are going to be lower, since 277 is a tech tree tank. But 277 reqs a full 1,000 lower.
Daki and Kazjoo are not average
No one cares about ''do you have this tank or not'' That is irrelevant. And taking replacement tanks because you dont have it is even worse.
Because some sad sack has to take WZ1 5A or 277 or 113 BECAUSE they do not have 260 is an retard argument
Do you think the same way with pre-nerf chiefs and 279E? Because so few have them, take super conq and 60TP/IS4 instead respectively?
It does not work that way at all. Thats incredibly dumb.
Take any player with 55+WR, 9k+ PR. And look at their 260, and look at their 277. PRetty sure their 260 has higher DPG
in city vs tier 8
Chief is still best tank in game
Great player, great knowledge but the screaming should really stop, imo
Skill says that he doesnt hate arty players he hates arty class, but I hate arty players with a passion.
Some arty main in my game said that did you see this on iyouxins channel. I was like he still plays other classes and you have likr fucking 100k games in arty.
While me marking obj. 261 🤫
@@iyouxintwitch if you mark it I dont care it would be kinda fun to watch tbh
I instantly report 279e when I play tier 8 heavy and tank is in enemy team. Like, what can I do against that tank? This is my way to send message to WG.
279 was only strong against tier 8 and 9 (not always) because the upper plate is very weak but shaped in a way where you need to be either taller of have around 280pen ap or heat. against tier 10 the 279e always melted tbh.
edit to clear what im tryinng to say is. iyouxin is still way better than the average 279e player, the 279e is all about consistency so anyone can get it over time. so many 279e random players dont know that the 279e loves high ground and forget it doesnt have a lower plate.
How can you be than cool by this skyshitters up on you??? HOW???? I would crack my keyboard 😂😂😂
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kpz is better than chief now
Those tanks are crazy good but the other truth is that most people who cry about them are straight out bad players which dont position themselfs well and dont have any clue when and where to fight against those tanks. They just run like chickens and expect others to do the job. 🙈🙉🙊
The tank who get really nerfed is obj 268v4 they destroyed it WG they are the biggest asshols ever
You Muppet, that tank was OP and still IS. So hard to pen, even shots on lateral Side are bounces
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playin against tier 8 lul
always new it was bullshit
hi
Calling 279 OP was always just a skill issue, IS-4 and Lewandowski proved it.
Wrong
only true if there was no RNG in the game. Because you can just miss shots due to luck the 279e is overpowered, if every shot hit exactly where you aim then it would be skill issue
you should remember that iyouxin didn't use any gold round in that match, if he had used them all of those tanks would have been dead long ago
@@onemorebox148nope
Weak point on both sides of your tracks I love people that don't know it
first?
Yes
@@takacsaron2679nem kussolj
At least second
Arty damage on 279 e and chieftain is reverted to old he standard and penetration they still do stun eh