"Lewis must have a crystal ball" 🔮 | Karun and Damon discuss Mercedes' struggles
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Sky Sports F1's Damon Hill and Karun Chandhok discuss the challenges for Toto Wolff and Mercedes as Lewis Hamilton leaves the struggling team for Ferrari.
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You dont need a crystal ball to know that mercedes are falling off
All teams “fall off” at some point. They’ll bounce back soon enough.
My guy forgot red bull fell of horrifically from 2014 to 2021
@@vinnievinnie-sj5kr red bull still had a very capable car in all those years barring 2015, and 2019/20 where merc simply were just better than everyone. They just lacked a competitive AND reliable engine in most of those years to compete with merc.
@@vinnievinnie-sj5krI dunno I’d still have called them the second best team, they just weren’t at the very front anymore, Mercedes aren’t anywhere near the front!
@@vinnievinnie-sj5krI remember Adrian Newey saying they had the best chassis in some years but they just never had the full package between 2014-2021
He’s clearly seen the development work over the winter and thought ‘I’m off’. Given how early the Ferrari move was announced, I think it shows he’s lost faith in Mercedes’ direction of travel and doesn’t have the time to wait around if he wants that 8th world title. I’m convinced he will get it at Ferrari. Just like McLaren all those years ago, it feels like it could be another very well timed move for him.
💯
Not only that since he was a little boy he’s always dreamed of racing for Ferrari, he knows he hasn’t got long in the sport so what better way then to fulfil hes dream now before he leaves
Plus he isn't 25 anymore so I guess it was time to seek success elsewhere
lol wasn't he bragging that he made it sure that the engineers would do what he want with the car.
And even claimed that the W15 is way better than the previous cars as Mercedes stated that they followed Lewis' demands?
@@gelmir7322 Yes and they didnt do it good enough thats why he moved out asap and announced it early lol and Fred must've shown him a more promising car to develop on for 2025 to sway him.
Ferrari makes the most compelling argument that even with decades of single minded devotion, unlimited financial resources, industry leading expertise, and championship winning tier talents, don’t necessarily guarantee competitiveness …
Unlimited financial resources have been made redudant with the budget gap
Yeah but apart from the odd year, Ferrari have always been decently competitive
@@matthewrussI think they apply the same rigour to the rules of the budget cap as the engineers do to the car specifications. But yes I agree the budget cap has got to be a leveller, even if there is a lot of Hollywood accounting going on, I suspect they are all doing it fairly equally.
LH doesn’t need a crystal ball- he is just damn good and smart. Merc SHOULD have listened to him 2 years back!! Great athletes are able to “see” and “feel” when equipment, strategy, and competition are going to perform or not!
You nailed it.
What did he tell them then? I agree the athlete knows his equipment.
@@charltontinashechipuriro4909He told them to go towards RB direction. Instead they spent 2 years on zero side pod.
I think MB should have understood ground effects before trying a radical concept from the start
That Hamilton aint stupid thats why hes going to Ferrari
No, it's Ferrari that are stupid.
@@BrianWMay grown man hating on hamilton everywhere. Jealous cuz hes more succesfull than your whole fam will be?
@@durranidragonfortnite835 It’s proper weird behaviour
@@BrianWMaycrystappen fangirl 😂😂😂😂
@@BrianWMay No we're not stupid, we got the FINAL BOSS because with Masi out in an equal or close machinery,
Max can't beat the FINAL BOSS
From Mclaren, he moved to mercedes. Mclaren went downhill and mercedes became a monster of a team. Will he do it again with his switch to Ferrari?
Yes, they only come along one in a lifetime.
Sack the aero department.
Better. They got poached by their rivals.
Hamilton's move is a combination of being fed up with Mercedes' lack of progress and direction, combined with wanting a multi-year deal. Same reason Alonso went to AM. In both cases, the current team were only prepared to offer a 1 year contract with an option.
damon got it bang on. Toto inherited a solid team
Remember 6 months ago when Sky were talking up how Allison was going to make the 2024 a possible title contender?
He could probably do that but instead of designing a competitive car,
he choose to design a car that Lewis' would like.
@@nexxus2853
George already bashing Sir Lewis with better results.
@@gelmir7322 you do realize that lewis can't get out of that merc soon enough right? Wait until SLH is in that scarlet Ferrari then you'll see the difference. I hope you keep up that same energy then that you have now.
@@nexxus2853 I can't wait for Ferrari to break your optimism lol
@@GloomGaiGar lol!!
Crystal ball? Merc Turbo advantage gone. And Ferrari gave Lewis way better contract. That’s it
Their engine gains haven’t been a thing since 2019 bud. Just saying
he saw alot of talented engineers leave for Red Bull and Ferrari.
internally, he started to see the whole thing falling to pieces.
he knew it was time to leave and Toto idol worshipping Max/not giving him a deserving contract helped.
@@enyaliosares4301 no, Ferrari had an illegal engine in 2019. engines were equal in 2021. And they lost
@@lavelafetsha Driver championship stolen by FIA but manufacturers title still theirs
when lewis wins every race next season and a championship with ferrari they will all be talking different. it’s just like tiger woods for many years every said he would never win or whatever again and when he won the masters it was magical
They had a huge power advantage (engine) and their Mgu-H implementation was so OP that they can put a more aerodynamically 'lossy' car and still win.
Forget the chat , Free Vasseur is the silent assassin
Boy is funny as hell. You saw him at McLaren yesterday? 😅
Man is plotting big for Ferrari
A silent assassin in a suit. Man just quietly going about his business, building a solid foundation. In a year, managed to calm the pitwall and make them so confident. And also sorted out the Ferrari eating its boots.
1:09 SOO TRUE. This should be mentioned a lot!
I’m a RB guy but you gotta give respect for Toto he have 8 Constructor's Championships under his belt… can’t say the work starts now.
Toto didn't do it it was Ross Brawn who did it for Merc who Toto got rid of to claim the glory for himself.
it's not that the work starts now, in F1 the work never stops.
Toto just provided the money.
Toto is just a buisnessman. NONE of the success belongs to him. It belongs the Ross Brawn, Schumacer and Rosberg and the engine department who all lay the groundwork for years before toto turned up. Niki Lauda was essensially the principle until his death.
Now, Mercedes is a joke of a team without a proper leader
You have to give l-h some credit, he knows when things have run their course , like at mclaren, like when mclaren had kimi they lost him several championships with unreliability same was happening to Lewis there and although amg f1 is reliable its just not fast enough and no change in sight. Its actually a straight forward decision.
ground effect is about fully taking advantage of all the possible airflow everywhere... Merc will get there in the end, only two people i like listening to. Karoon and Damon. Lewis has taken a massive risk, but he's always been an ALL or Nothing kind of guy. Adrian leaving redbull and Merc having issues is great news for everyone else, REALLY makes me hopeful for a best of the rest resurgence next year. I'd love to see Aston, Mclaren and Ferrari duking it out instead of Redbully vs Meshadies , fingers crossed next year is more fun, hate it when the politics and news outshades the races.
No one ever mentions that Adrian Newey was around for the last generation of ground effect cars, he literally had a head start with what would work or not
The last ground effect cars are nothing like the current ones. The only thing similar is the basic concept, nothing more. All the minute details (which is where the difference is made) are all uniqe to the new cars
if Lewis has a crystal ball it has a year delay on it.
2 years, he was being loyal to Mercedes. By, see ya....
I would say his crystal ball finally told him newey was leaving RB
Word goes around, especially, after a beer...
The problem?
Aldo Costa the greatest car designer in F1 history left Mercedes at the end of 2020.
Yet noone talks about this.
He does always say he wants to be involved in every aspect of building the car, he must've seen something .
Mercedes downfall needs to be studied at University of Oxford 🙈😂🤷
Budget cap is the issue. Nothing more.
@@hueyfreeman7810also brawn helping them before last regs change while helping create this new one they struggle with
No budget, regulation suitable to red bull. If you think this is all a coincidence you are kidding yourself,
@@drepark2294 ok but i think its more of a question of why Red Bull got it right and Merc did not since the budget cap and regulations apply to every team equally
- they lost their engine dominance advantage.
- they lost their financial advantage.
- they lost a lot of experienced experts and they replaced them with diversity hires.
- Lewis form is not suited for the new regs, which in turn sidewided Mercedes development trajectory,
as they ended up being more pre-occupied with trying to fix Hamilton's confidence issues instead of trying to improve their platform.
Mercedes know that RB is bending the rules they just haven't found where yet. I think Mercedes new 0pod design is genius and should've been kept. RB must be doing some trickery with the electric part of the powertrain.
RB's floor was in full view at Monaco and they still didn't understand it lol. Can't find flaws when you have ZERO idea what to look for.
But keep pretending to be an F1 car designer.
Finally someone points out that Toto inherited a ready made winner. ;)
All these problems would be solved if the FIA simply banned Newey 🤣
no one needed any crystal ball when the obvious was so clear.
It wasn't obvious to outsiders before the season started. That's why his announcement was such a shock and is still being talked about in the same sense.
@@procatprocat9647 don't apply too much logic at once in a youtube comment section please. If FajitaJo thinks it was clear and obvious, let him think that.
I am with you and Hamilton must have concluded that Mercedes didn't go in the right direction this winter.
Too many people here misunderstand the topic and are referring to Mercedes' performance right now which obviously has nothing to do with Hamilton's decision.
His decision was made well before the season started.
@riquelmeone Haha OK 👍
It seems that most people can't separate foresight from hindsight.
I have no clue how they can function in society like that.
As an aside, I've been watching a lot of Anthony Davidson merc discussions recently. He's very skilled at changing his hats, but sometimes he almost drops his guard
Joseph, you are making yourself look even more foolish.
Deleting your message doesn't save you 🤣
Ferrari was only the crystal ball's second choice - Hamilton was rejected by Red Bull first. Wolff's inheritance has run out.
Nice to see Damon 🙂
Lewis is smart and even if it doesn't work out at least he gave it a go, but under Fred things are going in the right direction. Toto doesn't seem to handle problems
500m profit but your no longer allowed to spend all of it on the cars - unless you fudge the catering expenses like red bull 😂😂
It worked for them, sow maybe mercedes should order more food🫣
@@peterwilles7227they'd probably order the wrong sandwiches at this point and blame an engineer..
😂😂😂
@@peterwilles7227😂😂😂
@@peterwilles7227 There's only so much vegan food they can order lol
Same crystal ball he had when he left McLaren to join Mercedes in the first place. He is driving the cars and knows when they are hopeless.
We all know Brawn left the foundations
And lauda
More like Honda
Absolutely-it wasn't Wolf and he doen't have a clue to fix the problem because he lack technical knowledge.
My Crystal ball says you don't need a Crystal ball to figure this one out
😂
My crystal ball says your logic is just relying on hindsight.
The topic is Hamilton's decision being taken before the season started when it was not clear that Merc was off the pace, at least not to outsiders.
Show me how you figured out Merc's current performance before the season.
Exactly, you got nothing.
Sir Lewis + Ferrari + Newey = 🏆… RB and Horner have f’d it big time
See what happens over season, plus what occurs during new technical regulations next season.
I think everyones going to be on him if he doesnt win at ferrari but I dont think hes moved there to win entirely, hes moved there to turn up to work dressed in all red ever since he wanted to as a kid, I think winning will be the added bonus.
Is Merc new Williams, from championship winning team to a mid-field or worse?
Possible. Lost their best people to rivals.
Leclerc is way faster than Russell. What's the excuse next year going to be? Somehow i doubt Ferrari will be inclined to copy and paste that "Lewis was just experimenting" weekend after weekend of under performing.
budget cap era just isn't Mercedes thing. And I've been a pretty decent Lewis and Mercedes fan for over 3 years now
basicly you are saying that the others a smarter?
@@peterwilles7227 I'm saying that Mercedes who used to almost always have the largest budget at their disposal is suffering pretty bad now that they have a lot of limitations when the budget kept started in 2021
@@parkerd5508it's not red bulls thing either they had to break it, now everyone else is a cost cap breach behind I mean a second a lap behind 😂
@@clintharper5509 now to be fair I do think some of that difference is because of Max. Perez still fits in with the rest of the grid pretty well but Max is just able to extract 100% of what that car can do because it's catered for his driving style
@@parkerd5508 you're trying to be fair & I respect that but you're being nieve, max hasn't had any competition since 2021 he's had the fastest car for the last 3 years, is that his fault, no, it's the fia & f1 for deliberately building the regulation around Adrian newey & putting an engine freeze in place, is it no wonder anyone can't get near red bull. I thought the whole point of this new era of car was to stop one team domination? That's what we was told, or has that been made ok now max is doing it. Notice how they refuse to talk about how much of this new era of car not working in terms of competition & battles up front, it's because this is what they really wanted, max dominating, he's a manufactured champion, his first one was gifted to him & the rest, he's had absolutely no competition.
Given the Adrian Newey news it’s clear he got word of something we weren’t aware of
Yeah I feel the same way
Why does Russell always out perform hamilton when they both have the same equipment
Because Lewis has had everything his way and George hasn't. George is used to driving terrible cars, Lewis isn't and can't handle a bad car.
Why do people have such short memories?
Lewis clearly outperformed George last season. The season prior Lewis was also outperforming towards the second-half (only underperforming in the first half due to being a guineepig... not to mention a bit of poor luck).
George has been ahead starting this season, but it's only been a handful of races. And even then, Lewis had one superior weekend, and a superior sprint-weekend (followed by a mistake the cost him in qualy... but is that too different from George DNFing due to a mistake in Australia?). George is doing better on average at the moment, but let's not go goldfish mode.
Why would Lewis try to defeat his future employer?
I would crystal ball if he did it right after 2021 but its common sense now. I really think next year is the year for him to get number 8. With regs changing in 26 again, who knows which teams might adapt better.
He won’t get number 8 when he can’t even get close to maximising his car and he hasn’t won a race since the new regs. His 8th won’t come.
😂😂😂 next year lol he won’t know how to drive that Ferrari lol
I haven't seen Ted Kravitz this race.😂😂😂😂
Fired all the technicians who drove the ship in the years prior.
Fire Lewis
The people inside the team is questionable...!!!
Its already 3-years and they're still working on the setup..!!
They didn’t make enough changes last year, if they had and it went well I think they’d be with Ferrari.
I can’t believe this is the same Mercedes’ who are not doing well but I’m sure Lewis next year will make Ferrari a championship winning team and give him a competitive car which Mercedes’ couldn’t
the Ferrari car needs to be at least 2 tenths faster than the RB for him to have a shot at beating Max who's only now entering his prime. Never mind he will first need to beat his own teammate.
@@daarom3472 lewis can compete with max on equal machinery so don't know why your saying his car needs to be 2 tenths quicker
Because max is faster then Lewis. @@user-bm4ux3og2d
@@user-bm4ux3og2d Lewis had a quicker car in 2021 and still needed Max to have 2 more DNFs + Hungary to keep the title fight alive. Max has gotten even better since, and Lewis is struggling to beat George Russell, who isn't exactly Max Verstappen.
@@doghat1619 lol Lewis and Max’s cars were pretty much equal when averaged for the season
And the argument can be made the other way around, it took Max tryna run Lewis off the road at every opportunity and a Michael Masi bogus decision for Max to beat Lewis that year. Cut the crap.
Crystal ball? Common sense
common sense how? seems more like everyone jumping on the hindsight bandwagon.
Mercedes will have a monster engine for the 2026 new regulations era. That’s when they’ll be back to normal.
Until then it’s just about damage control, there’s not much else to do at this point, they simply failed in exploring the opportunities of the current regulations.
Toto isn't worried as long as the cash rolls in, same with all the teams.
The cash will follow Lewis. That's one of the main reasons Ferrari signed him.
If he had a crystal ball, he would have left 2 years ago
I agree but it’s still phenomenal how among all of the drivers on the grid (apart from Max) he has put himself in the best position to be able to make such moves which greatly benefit his career. If he wins another championship in the next 2-3 years, Fernando would be punching the air.
To go where ?....nobody even ferrari is close to redbull performance...
Contract wise, context wise he put himself in the best situation to observe and make a decision. 2025 is the best year for ferrari car seems moving forward (let see). If he has a car 1 tenth slower than redbull...2025 will be firework !!!
@@orosdispatch.l6365if he has a car 1 tenth slower than Red Bull then he will be 3 tenths behind Max
Mercedes now has two problems:
The budget cap (Not any longer is the sky the limit...)
And not fully understanding the ground effect concept.
No crystal ball. He turns 40 next year. It’s called management of your own time. Ferrari is no guarantee, look at Vettel.
Are we still pretending those regulation changes were for better racing and not for higher profit margins?
The racing has been better, though. Yes, the wins have been even more concentrated in the hands of Max Verstappen, but if you look through the entire field the cars have been able to follow better in dirty air and every week except Monaco delivers good to great racing, even if it’s only for the lower ends of the points.
@@oluseyisonaiya I didn’t say the racing wasn’t better, I said their motivation behind the regulation changes was not for the excitement of the sport, but for expanding profits
@@dukirpsI don’t follow, how would the ground effect era result in higher profits? Unless you mean the engine freeze maybe?
@@soundyg7441 The budget caps and the prize money payouts went down by a lot. All those new "regulations for less downforce" were just one of the positives vs many negatives to accommodate lower budgets. One of the main negatives were thousands of layoffs despite the sport growing its revenues and fanbase. Another negative was increasing the number of races and unfortunately overworking the teams. They just call it the "ground effect era" but in a slightly more extreme way, Coke Zero says zero sugar.
@@dukirps should have just led with the budget cap reason since "new regulations" is far too broad
I still think Mercedes are better placed than Ferrari long term to fight for a championship. But they need some proper reinvestment in the team. They were over reliant on the power unit advantage and the wind tunnel has been the same since the Honda days. They need strong reinforcement in the infrastructure
Do u need a crystal ball to know ur car is running out of fuel? There are clear signs and being on the inside of the team clearly he can read them. He ain’t stupid
2 of the 3 Mercedes costumer teams (except for Stroll) are finishing ahead of Mercedes. In contrast to last rules era, it's not an engine era, but an aero era now, and it doesn't seem like they can get a hold of it. Lewis is just bailing ship.
Why are you advertsiing Mercedes on the floor of your studio? Glad I dont pay for this nonsense.
It does show how hard it is when you dont have a huge engine advantage on the whole grid
Or far superior aero
@@Oli-vt9shMerc never had far superior aero between 2014-21.. They were simply lucky that RB were heavily handicapped with these unreliable and painfully underpowered garbage Renault PU‘s until 2019 and that Honda obviously needed a couple of years from 2019 onwards to get near the Merc PU.
As soon as Honda brought their new PU for 2021 which was finally competitive (still worse than the Merc PU that year) RB instantly challenged for the championship.
@@Reaz399 not talking about Merc, talking about RB in ground effect
@@Oli-vt9shironic that their areo makes them quick on the straight. They used to just be quick in the corners. Merc was quick on the straights 😅
@@titancheat RB have the most efficient aero and brake cooling. Hence dominating
People saying now it's obvious but when we heard the news everyone was saying he should have waited coss they be fast bla bla 😅
Mercedes had so much success that a lot of their top engineers got poached to top teams. That’s how it works. Success at one places opens up new door of opportunity at another (along with a salary increase.)
So it's not only Hamilton who moves for money. But maybe these engineers also knew the car was s..t.
You don't need a crystal ball to see they are out of sort. Stevie wonder could see that from a mile away
Lewis Hamilton is a calculative person....
Hahaha crystal ball. Everyone has seen merc falling back..
Its the car not the driver..... I think Russell thinks so as well.
What if he never had it but has always been part of a very well structured plan and we stop saying things just for the sake of saying something?
“My team don’t make mistakes” - Lewis Hamilton (March 2022)
The three most pro Hamilton pundits to talk about Hamilton...I wonder how that goes
These three are NOT the “most” pro Hamilton pundits. Have you listened to Karun and Damon talk about others drivers relative to Lewis!!?
@@tigerrx7 yes, they're pro Lewis
and you're nearly bald boi
@flintey360 moi?? Yeah mate, that hair is all cgi
Ohh Damon hill! At last someone is saying as it is!!! Toto moved into this team! Team brawn!!!!
In his back? 😂😂😂😂😂
Wolff should take responsibility and resign. It’s the 3rd season like that.
He just signed a new 3 year deal…
The way I see it, there are too much political games behind the team and seems like LH felt that the team doesn't value his output as much anymore. And IMO, he probably felt that the most when he first tested the W15, and with that feelings confirmed, he decided and announced to go to Ferrari which values him more. I am not hating on GR, but for me he clearly lacks consistency and composure to be a champion and Mercedes picked him as LH replacement but that didn't go to the plan as well as they hope. And with CL is in similar situation as GR, LH can still be pretty competitive at Ferrari next year. Unless his age suddenly affect him too hard, then he will just fulfill his contract and finally retire lol
Its clear as crystal to see Mercedes are a failure.
Mercedes has been falling apart since 2020 when they blew the pit stops for Russel and Bottas.
This is not hard. Lewis drove the car on the simulator and knew that it would not be a championship contender, hence the move to Ferrari. That's simple.
The only people who need to look through some glass to see clearly are presenters & pundits that endlessly ask ‘are Mercedes back’ despite the last three years of their yo-yoing performance. The writing has been on the wall for ages. That’s why Toto is constantly trying to distract by speculating about Verstappen & biging up Antonelli.
Sky their lovechild are not where they want them to be
Simple, Mercedes doesn’t know how to produce a F1 car for 135 million they do however know how to make one for 450+ million.
Remember he moved to Mercedes a year before the new regs and only won one race and then began his domination with the hybrid era. Now again, he's moving to Ferrari a year before the new regs 😬
Mercedes didn't listen to him in development. Russel maybe like Alonso drives around the problem and doesn't care as long as he is beating his team mate. It's one of the reasons the Ferrari was so poor in the other drivers hands when Alonso was there. Kimi specifically complained about this. While Alonso was trouncing him in qualifying and race.
Can they drive the 2022 car yet on the test track, maybe they can learn how to stabilise that car and carry the lessons learned over to the 2024 car
Nope. Nobody is allowed to test last years car
Doubt he needs a crystal ball, as he probably had discussions in the background knowing what would happen moving forward. You watch, Newy will go to Ferrari. That won't be a coincidence.
Playstation46
Mercedes might bench him for the rest of season...
He's got a crystal ball if Adrian Newey joins Ferrari.
then i got a crystal ball... you got a crystall ball ... we all got a crystal ball ... lokl ... dudes you dont need a crystall to see Merc got too many reverse gears in that car
Lewis is under performing deliberately? 😅
Nah, he wants to win. All drivers want to win.
You really think Mercedes are going to allow Hamilton to outshine Russell now he is leaving?
I expect him leaving mid season
@@jamtalawah2231 Same thought I had some days back.
Crystal Ball? Before the cars hitting the road they have already so much information vom the Simulator that he with his experience knows if the car will be fast or not. Now is the move to Ferrari a good move? Maybe, they are looking stronger. Will they give him a car where he can win another championship? Who know, nobody knows. I think for him was more to do something new I guess.
vom ?
Either a crystal ball, or he knew the changes he apparently requested to be implemented this year would be this poor. Either way looks like he's making the right move getting out
Also doing the right move for Mercedes. They won’t be handicapped by a washed driver next year. Sadly he will also take down Ferrari with him.
@@ey1615 the same handicapped driver who carried them to second in the constructors last year? i want whatever you are smoking dude
I reckon he made the right move in going to Ferrari as Mercedes are going nowhere with Ferrari looking like they could be the team to beat in 2026
I didn't see Ted stroking Hamiltons ego.
Lewis hamilton must have a crystal ball init
Its as clear as day. The Merc design team, aero people and engineers are failing, badly. They need new blood and new thinking as the present Eng. team don't seem to have much of a clue. I predict a big clear out by Toto.
Harris Lewington
Why are they socially distancing?
Funny how Lulu's team mate manages so much better with the same car . . . consistently
We going to forget about who finished 3rd in the drivers championship last season. Best finish of anyone outside the red bulls. A motivated Lewis smokes Russell even at this age.
But not in 2022….. imagine being the greatest of all time 😂😂 and yet having finished behind not one or two but three different teammates in your career across a whole season. Oh and also tied with a fourth one! Best to ignore the biased narratives being promoted and do your own thinking……
@AndrewLowe-bx8zr until someone can break the records and numbers he's put up he will statistically be the greatest of all time. Your opinion on the matter is largely irrelevant. You can claim whoever you like to be a better driver but you can't unfortunately for your agenda you can't erase his record race wins or pole positions. Perhaps a young dutchman may go on to break those records but until that happens lewis has the biggest claim to goat status regardless of these irrelevant arguments. Facts speak louder than opinions.
@@asif8018Fact - in same car lost to Russell in 2022 (and losing in 2024), Fact - in same car lost to rosberg in 2016, Fact - in same car lost to Button in 2011, Fact - in same car tied with alonso in 2007.
In a sport when I think we can all agree the car is important (regardless of precisely how important) the best benchmark is always your teammate. There’s no agenda here, but I’ve just given 4 drivers who can legitimately claim to be as good as or better than Lewis at various points based on those seasons identified. Only one of them is ever mentioned as a possible top 10 driver of all time.
Currently Max has had a dominant car for two and a bit seasons and Lewis had one for 7 seasons. Max drove a competitive car for another 4 and a half and Lewis drove a competitive car for another 9 and a bit. Work at the win rates for the same time period and Max would annihilate the records. People forget that guys like Jim clark won a higher percentage of starts than Lewis when reliability was much poorer. A simple stat like ‘most wins’ is like basing your life choices on a tabloid headline…………
Not taking sides, I'm not particularly a fan of either Hamilton or Russell, but it's worth looking at the stats for the seasons where Hamilton was beaten by his teammate. 2007, he was a Rookie against a 2 time WC. 2010, Button was the current WC and probably feeling pretty good. 2016, Hamilton had more retirements than Rosberg. 2022, Hamilton had more retirements than Russell. There is no doubting the talent of either driver but, even though Russell has been bloody quick this past couple of years, he is prone to more crashes under pressure (Singapore 2023 anyone?). On paper, the results may lean to Russell potentially being the better driver, but realistically and when it counts, Hamilton is the Mercedes number one. And at the end of the day they are both human and can have a bad day, or even a season, and add in a crappy car that may suit one driver over another and the results can be easily skewed. For anyone questioning whether Hamilton still has form, guess we'll find out next year! And just to reiterate - I'm not a fan of either driver. In fact, I'm not really a fan of any driver or team - I just like watching Formula 1, and have done for over 40 years. My interest is in the cars and the engineering - it never ceases to amaze me just how fast an F1 car is, even those propping up the back of grid!
Get yourselves popcorn 🍿 ready ok L.H is a British driver, however their is a costly price to have Sir L.H, Mr Ferrari not worried at all over L.H 😅
My crystal ball says that 2025 will be Lewis’ 4th consecutive winless season in F1. 🤔
Crystal ball? You act like Lewis wasn't well aware of all the Mercedes developments before this years car was announced....
Where was his crystal ball in 2022 when Lewis claimed there was nothing wrong with the new car? That Mercedes doesn’t make mistakes? Supposed “commentators” are so full of it.