I build some cool divers and ive done alot of experimenting, your right on the money with the type of wobble and water displacement. Without saying to much the type of wobble is most important imo.
I had a store brand lure years ago that caught fish like crazy, not just bass but walleye too. I bought more but never found another that worked so well. There was a difference that I couldn't see.
@@alanwinge8775I had a little prop bait that I got out of the bargain bin at Bass Pro that absolutely murdered the bass. Never found anything close to it in the last 20yrs. But to your story, I had a Daiwa Game Vibe lipless crank that destroyed bass and stripers. No paint or eyes left and finally lost it on a stump striper fishing. Bought a handful more and never got a bite on any of them.
Conditions make a huge difference. I can go out and use the the same lure but one has a rattle and one doesn’t. Sometimes they only want the rattle. Sometimes they won’t touch the one with a rattle. It’s kinda interesting
Real storm lures, pre rapala, were unstoppable fish catching machines of imperfection. Now they are just so so. And the most of the good models aren't made anymore.
I believe we all live in different seasons, lakes, water clarity and different species of bass. The best bait in the Ozarks, may totally be fishless in Georgia. It is up to the angler to experiment and determine what lures need to be in your tackle box.
You're correct. Randy once made a video saying the drop shot was worthless. I can't explain how many fish I've caught with it. Not just bass either. Lately, I've just been sticking to my confidence baits. The more I move around and the more I throw those, the more fish I get rather.
Absolutely. Maybe the smallfry worked better in clean/clear water, as up here in Michigan, where most of our lakes are clear, as well as the rivers(outside of the slow ones in the far south of the state), the Bagleys smallfry were absolute killer lures!
Excellent video. You have a very good point about keeping the magic alive. I do have some of those realistic looking Bagley baits. I have a bluegill, a crappie, and a shad that I got passed down from my grandpa. I don't fish them, but it's just kinda cool to have that sort of thing.
I can't deny or confirm that some lures catch more than others. There are days where bass will eat anything, and then there are days where they will only eat something specific. For example, one time I was fishing with my brother and i was using a finesse worm on a drop shot, and he was using a texas rigged senko. I was certain I was going to catch more fish than him that day, because I usually did. He kicked my ass that day by a ratio of 9 to 1. It didn't matter what area of the lake we moved to, what structure, or how deep we went, he kept throwing that senko and just kept reeling them in. Eventually i tied one on too and caught a few before we called it a day. fish just wanted a stick bait that day. Another thing that happens, I think we all have confidence baits and have a tendency to go to more often, and therefore catch more just because you use it more than others. If you went out one day and had a good on a specific Lure, especially if this day was followed by a string of bad days, then you're gonna remember that good day and memorize when and how you were catching them more so than the bad days. Just my two cents.
The Bagley gold foil always worked. But you can buy 10 crankbaits all same size and color but there will only 1 or 2 of those 10 will catch fish for some unknown reason, figure that 1 or 2 out and throw the rest in trash.
I used to tear up the bass on Bagleys small fry balsa wood crawdad crank bait especially in the fall on creek banks in the lake. Not so much anymore. And these lures are hard to find and expensive when you do.
Look, movement, sound, vibration, displacement, position when not in motion, all these come into play. Including a few other things like UV light and density.
Like the man's baby minus 1 The double stamp outperforms the single stamp all day, every day There was a slight change in the bill When they sold, the company wasn't visually noticeable, but it made a big difference
I bought some square bill crankbaits for $13.00 a dozen from netcraft back in the mid 80s . they came with no hooks or split rings. I have yet to find a crankbait that will out fish them. I have caught bass in all kinds of water, be it clear or muddy. Like everything, you can not get them anymore. Good thing I bought a couple dozen. If you seen this bait you would not even fish it.
In my opinion tournament anglers try to turn bass fishing into rocket science. The best advice I've ever gotten was from reading books and articles written by trophy bass anglers. I can't get excited about an angler who wins with a 10 lb bag. That sucks. I'm all about poundage per fish. If I catch a bunch of small dinks I consider myself skunked. The monster bass will only bite a handful of lures. All the trophy bass anglers are in agreement.
Triggering characteristics. I took a buddy with me to a unique spot off a creek mouth at first light. Small spinnerbaits got bit aggressively for 40 minutes and it died. I told him to tie on a 1.5 square bill like mine and we got the bit going again for another 30 minutes and it too, died off. I switched to a finesse worm and we picked off some fish before it was time to relocate. Each bait had unique triggering characteristics that played into the changing condition as the sun rose. I routinely change lures to see what works versus what won’t.
And sometimes those ultra cheap knockoff lures will be a slammer, actually! Sometimes you just have to try them and see, change the hardware if it is a catcher!
OK, the smallfry thing is weird, as that was THE killer bait we had here in Michigan back in the day. I had a friend who got the first one we saw, and he'd catch fish when NO one else would , using that lure.! I wish you could still get them, they were absolute killer! Now, we were wild NATURAL(as in, native to the water) smallmouth in a river in Michigan, maybe that particular bait fished better in current or something, but it was really, really good. The other one in that same river were original shad raps.
I remember when I was in grade school , I was eating ice cream on a stick at a friend's pond .I threw the stick in the water and a small bass came up and tried to take it down and finally let it go. Who knows lol
Randy could it be that bass are alerted to things to reject a bait and the more details provided the more clues the bass has to reject? A more abstract bait like a rubber jig provides fewer clues that it isn't real and so the fish isn't scared off as often.
I can honestly tell you the small fry crawfish Crankbait that swim backwards the shallow diver my older cousin and I have burned the bass here on that one , it still works very well here but we have a season for when the crawfish come out the mud and it’s Prespawn and Spawn here , in fact the first trip I could see my cousin catch ‘em an all I had was the rebel and he had that bagleys and he was smoking my dad and I , he showed it to us but he had no extras to let us use , but that only happened once cause I found some and bought em and my dad and I went to catching em on the next trip
@@olgeezer1177 A bunch of them were, I don't get the hate or "they didn't catch" comments. The smallfry was an absolute killer here in Michigan when it came out in the 80's!
So, in a nutshell, you don't need to buy more than one new bait until you try it at the lake or, you'll just be wasting your money on just a pretty paint job!
Do we have a lure manufacturer here in the province that makes quality lures like the cheap ones Americans make? the paint falls off and rust happens to make America great mean to make crap in the States? red devils are white with a red line on them one lake we fished at new hook needed to be beaten up the northern pike did not like the new hook at all and had to the canadian lure too we were allowed 10 each when i started fishing lol now i am older i make my own lures to walleye taken the lake over now fish out most of the pike was in that lake i don't care the all go back in the lake after i catch them the sport of making a lure and catching a fish on it if any small kids on short fishing they get the lures after i use them hoping when they get older they return the feaver to a small child
Most lures are designed to catch anglers. 😂
100%! Guilty as charged. LOL
I am a sucker for lures that catch fisherman, not fish. Boats too. Oh, I can look the part, but I can not catch fish. 😂😂😂
I build some cool divers and ive done alot of experimenting, your right on the money with the type of wobble and water displacement. Without saying to much the type of wobble is most important imo.
This was a banger vid Randy!
I had a store brand lure years ago that caught fish like crazy, not just bass but walleye too. I bought more but never found another that worked so well. There was a difference that I couldn't see.
It was from Cabela's and worked great all sratched up from so many fish untill a northern pike took it, maybe bit me off with 8# mono.
@@alanwinge8775I had a little prop bait that I got out of the bargain bin at Bass Pro that absolutely murdered the bass. Never found anything close to it in the last 20yrs.
But to your story, I had a Daiwa Game Vibe lipless crank that destroyed bass and stripers. No paint or eyes left and finally lost it on a stump striper fishing. Bought a handful more and never got a bite on any of them.
Conditions make a huge difference. I can go out and use the the same lure but one has a rattle and one doesn’t. Sometimes they only want the rattle. Sometimes they won’t touch the one with a rattle. It’s kinda interesting
The bandit crankbait USED to be inexpensive. They have gone up like crazy
If I had a dollar for every fish I have caught in my 50 years of fishing on a Rebel DeepWee R, I would be a rich man!!?
I like them too
Real storm lures, pre rapala, were unstoppable fish catching machines of imperfection. Now they are just so so. And the most of the good models aren't made anymore.
I believe we all live in different seasons, lakes, water clarity and different species of bass. The best bait in the Ozarks, may totally be fishless in Georgia. It is up to the angler to experiment and determine what lures need to be in your tackle box.
You're correct. Randy once made a video saying the drop shot was worthless. I can't explain how many fish I've caught with it. Not just bass either.
Lately, I've just been sticking to my confidence baits. The more I move around and the more I throw those, the more fish I get rather.
Remember Randy also claimed low light ( mornings and evenings doesn’t help the bite ).
Absolutely. Maybe the smallfry worked better in clean/clear water, as up here in Michigan, where most of our lakes are clear, as well as the rivers(outside of the slow ones in the far south of the state), the Bagleys smallfry were absolute killer lures!
Excellent video. You have a very good point about keeping the magic alive. I do have some of those realistic looking Bagley baits. I have a bluegill, a crappie, and a shad that I got passed down from my grandpa. I don't fish them, but it's just kinda cool to have that sort of thing.
Bagley's blue gill small fry gave me one of my best days ever fishing. I caught 32 bass, the biggest was 6 lbs
The new camera looks nice! not sure when that happened but the video is very sharp.
Excellent topic Randy. My experience is the same.
I can't deny or confirm that some lures catch more than others. There are days where bass will eat anything, and then there are days where they will only eat something specific. For example, one time I was fishing with my brother and i was using a finesse worm on a drop shot, and he was using a texas rigged senko. I was certain I was going to catch more fish than him that day, because I usually did. He kicked my ass that day by a ratio of 9 to 1. It didn't matter what area of the lake we moved to, what structure, or how deep we went, he kept throwing that senko and just kept reeling them in. Eventually i tied one on too and caught a few before we called it a day. fish just wanted a stick bait that day.
Another thing that happens, I think we all have confidence baits and have a tendency to go to more often, and therefore catch more just because you use it more than others. If you went out one day and had a good on a specific Lure, especially if this day was followed by a string of bad days, then you're gonna remember that good day and memorize when and how you were catching them more so than the bad days.
Just my two cents.
Thought you might jump in the BFL here on Grand this weekend.
Bagley made some good lures but I agree with you on the Small Fry Series. They looked good but didn't catch fish.
The Bagley gold foil always worked. But you can buy 10 crankbaits all same size and color but there will only 1 or 2 of those 10 will catch fish for some unknown reason, figure that 1 or 2 out and throw the rest in trash.
Old wiggle warts vs new ones , night and day, small change in rattles made this bait wortless.
Those old subwarts used to outfish everything too! Shame they are gone..
I used to tear up the bass on Bagleys small fry balsa wood crawdad crank bait especially in the fall on creek banks in the lake. Not so much anymore. And these lures are hard to find and expensive when you do.
It might be because you are sponsored by Mega Bass lures !
It’s spelled Megabass. One word.
Look, movement, sound, vibration, displacement, position when not in motion, all these come into play. Including a few other things like UV light and density.
Like the man's baby minus 1 The double stamp outperforms the single stamp all day, every day There was a slight change in the bill When they sold, the company wasn't visually noticeable, but it made a big difference
Spence scout is the all time best.😁
I bought some square bill crankbaits for $13.00 a dozen from netcraft back in the mid 80s . they came with no hooks or split rings. I have yet to find a crankbait that will out fish them. I have caught bass in all kinds of water, be it clear or muddy. Like everything, you can not get them anymore. Good thing I bought a couple dozen. If you seen this bait you would not even fish it.
In my opinion tournament anglers try to turn bass fishing into rocket science. The best advice I've ever gotten was from reading books and articles written by trophy bass anglers. I can't get excited about an angler who wins with a 10 lb bag. That sucks. I'm all about poundage per fish. If I catch a bunch of small dinks I consider myself skunked. The monster bass will only bite a handful of lures. All the trophy bass anglers are in agreement.
Yep, dinks are fun but not what I target...
Triggering characteristics. I took a buddy with me to a unique spot off a creek mouth at first light. Small spinnerbaits got bit aggressively for 40 minutes and it died. I told him to tie on a 1.5 square bill like mine and we got the bit going again for another 30 minutes and it too, died off. I switched to a finesse worm and we picked off some fish before it was time to relocate. Each bait had unique triggering characteristics that played into the changing condition as the sun rose. I routinely change lures to see what works versus what won’t.
And sometimes those ultra cheap knockoff lures will be a slammer, actually! Sometimes you just have to try them and see, change the hardware if it is a catcher!
Fish love every lure except the one I'm using
OK, the smallfry thing is weird, as that was THE killer bait we had here in Michigan back in the day. I had a friend who got the first one we saw, and he'd catch fish when NO one else would , using that lure.! I wish you could still get them, they were absolute killer! Now, we were wild NATURAL(as in, native to the water) smallmouth in a river in Michigan, maybe that particular bait fished better in current or something, but it was really, really good. The other one in that same river were original shad raps.
I remember when I was in grade school , I was eating ice cream on a stick at a friend's pond .I threw the stick in the water and a small bass came up and tried to take it down and finally let it go. Who knows lol
I am new to this. Is your content pretty universal coast to coast? Or is your tips regional?
Randy could it be that bass are alerted to things to reject a bait and the more details provided the more clues the bass has to reject? A more abstract bait like a rubber jig provides fewer clues that it isn't real and so the fish isn't scared off as often.
A Power Lizard doesn't represent anything but if you drag it thru a weed bed in 5 feet of water rapidly dropping to 12 .15 it catches fish !!
I can honestly tell you the small fry crawfish Crankbait that swim backwards the shallow diver my older cousin and I have burned the bass here on that one , it still works very well here but we have a season for when the crawfish come out the mud and it’s Prespawn and Spawn here , in fact the first trip I could see my cousin catch ‘em an all I had was the rebel and he had that bagleys and he was smoking my dad and I , he showed it to us but he had no extras to let us use , but that only happened once cause I found some and bought em and my dad and I went to catching em on the next trip
I think its the knock with the water displacement. I seem to hit on a dull knock
The small fry lures made cool keychains.......
Facts. haha
The largest bluegill with the yellow belly was deadly in ponds. Bagley called it chartreuse.
The old ones with brass hook hangers.
@@olgeezer1177 A bunch of them were, I don't get the hate or "they didn't catch" comments. The smallfry was an absolute killer here in Michigan when it came out in the 80's!
@NightwingGR1 yes I know people who love the shad shape
Very. True. The ones that work. Have been around forever And are copied by other brands.
These lure companies go tru I thought extensive r&d & pantents to get them right. Ya some are exceptional & always will be
From now on I’m just going to buy Megabass lures at $30 a shot
More I fish the more I think if it looks alive and they wanna eat they eat it.
So, in a nutshell, you don't need to buy more than one new bait until you try it at the lake or, you'll just be wasting your money on just a pretty paint job!
Isn't that megabass....
So that’s why I don’t catchem on crankbaits
Do we have a lure manufacturer here in the province that makes quality lures like the cheap ones Americans make? the paint falls off and rust happens to make America great mean to make crap in the States?
red devils are white with a red line on them one lake we fished at new hook needed to be beaten up the northern pike did not like the new hook at all and had to the canadian lure too we were allowed 10 each when i started fishing lol now i am older i make my own lures to walleye taken the lake over now fish out most of the pike was in that lake i don't care the all go back in the lake after i catch them the sport of making a lure and catching a fish on it
if any small kids on short fishing they get the lures after i use them
hoping when they get older they return the feaver to a small child
Don't waste your money on sunscreen either
Or deodorant. Lol
How about publishing your list of the dozen lures that you think are special.
Good idea
Rapalas
Some lures suck because they’re made of Toxic Lead when safer and environmentally responsible alternatives exist.
Boy you are right about those small fry! Not a nibble