great match. Kaci always looks so solid and seasoned. One of my favorite players to watch. And Shane is the best player in the world and proves it time and time again.
Interesting shot at 40:30 that many people are talking about in the comments. I believe the preponderance of the evidence favors the conclusion that Shane did not hit the cue ball with his cue after he took the shot. If you look at the video frame by frame, you can see that when the cue ball gets to the shaft of Shane's cue the shaft is in fact already above the cue ball. If he had hit the cue ball ball with his shaft the cue ball would have drastically slowed down and also changed direction immediately. It does neither. It does not slow down at all (physically impossible if he hit it with his cue given the position and movement of the cue) and does not curve until it is clearly past Shane's cue by at least a couple of rotations (again, physically impossible if the reason the cue ball curved was because he hit it with his cue). Shane put a touch of left English on the cue ball to get it over toward the 7, which takes effect after the cue ball passes his cue on its way up table. The sound you hear is the bridge hitting the side of the shaft of Shane's cue as he twists it (you can also clearly see him twisting the bridge into his shaft in the video). The referee was right there and would have known if Shane had hit the cue ball with the shaft or the tip of his cue, as would both Shane and Kaci. The camera angle (above the table so that you are looking down on the cue ball and the shaft of Shane's cue) makes it impossible to see any space between the shaft and the cue ball, even if there was space between them.
Such a great match, Klenti just started feelin the pressure. Great young player....what a way to represent the future for pool....Proud of Shane, seems like always a nail biter....Mr. Lely Thank you for coming back over this match and commentating.....
Alex I want you to know you do a great job of commenting the match. i am out of the Phoenix in the USA. We need great commentary to grow the sport and you do a wonderful job. Johnny Henson
Did you know Jack Madden when he played out of PHX and had his cue business there before retiring and building cues in Montana? I have a 2012 signature cue(1 of 30)he made in Montana that year.
@@ia7277 There is only one Earl. We need lots of good commentators on this sport. This was some great commentating and I would listen to it while watching pool anytime.
The shot at 40:40, like many are saying, was a foul. In slow-mo the cue ball comes off the end rail going slightly left, then changes to slightly right. Still you can't put the entire match on one shot.
Actually, at this caliber of play...you can. As good as Kaci was playin, if he gets ball in hand the way he should have on that foul I don’t believe Shane wins. But we’ll never know. I’m team USA n I’m a huge svb fan, but I think he got away with one and it made the difference. At least he earned it by coming with some amazing shots the rest of the match.
I agree. Alex is my favorite commentator. Steve Davis commented a few matches back in the day and he was great too. People lately really like Earl and Jones but I'm not too big on them.
40:35 - First time I ever 'heard' a foul watching pool videos. Can't blame Shane though. If you have a ref and he doesn't catch it, then fair game. In a bar though, I advise calling it on yourself or you may end up outside before paying your tab in a money game....
@@poolmathers6613 I agree, who knows how this match would have turned out. Makes me think the opponent should have a challenge option to look at the replay. At least in the final match.
Very enjoyable match, and loved Alex's commentating as usual. Nice little cameo at the end of pre-mullet Sky and Billy. I long for those simple days, before covid ravaged the world, and our top US pros didn't look like Borat characters.
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I have feel for Kaci. I saw him play a great match against Jason Shaw and lose it in the end. He’s a great player but just can’t get past these super stars.
I switch into 0.25 fast and watch the 40:35 shot. It's really hard to call a foul. Even we can only hear the sound of the cue touch the bridge or the cue ball.
40:40 the sound of the snick can clearly be heard. And the cue ball changed its trajectory a little bit tho it was in the same natural direction as it would take because of the top spin on it. I think Shane knew it hahah...
He didn't foul. .... N for billiard Network to only replay,... Practically just that replay throughout the whole match is very sketchy. Shane came back from 5 down. For all that think he cheated should tell Kaci to retire
@@billiardnetwork That's a nice optical illusion. It looks like they are starring right at it when they are shooting. The displays must be right below the table height.
Parece falta porque en la repetición es la sensacion que da. pero no lo es. No toca la bola por 2º vez si lo miras fotograma a fotograma en la velocidad normal.
You all here complaining about SVB's foul...how about Justin Bergmans foul with the 9 ball last years mosconi cup?! i got crucified for pointing that one out, but it was obvious.....and the refs reviewed it and called it a good hit.
1:02:40 is the moment Kaci lost the match. There I thought he would draw back to play combination on the 9 or just pocket the 3 but he probably felt too much pressure on him. Anyway both Kaci and SVB played well, I have enjoyed the match.
@Breeze Allday So you are the only person ever to type the wrong letter in a comment section? I was wondering who that famous person was. Like you didnt know what that person meant. Go away now with your nonsense
@Breeze Allday nonsense, it should have been called then. He is a champ in many different games of pool. He is seasoned and Kaci is a young great player who with experience will have his days. Don't take anything from SVB, he is one of the greats, young and a 5 time winner in 9 ball, tied with Earl and he has a long way to go. Not to mention a champ in all other pool games.
@Breeze Allday stop it already . You are arguing about 2 great players here and I like both. SVB is way younger and has a long way to go and probably will surpass many more
There was not a foul. I shot this about 20 times just to verify the angle and how it's created. I even purposefully fouled in order to see the ball's reaction and to check what you should see if there were a foul. It was not a foul. Other justifications are here: #1 does anyone think that a European tour player and ref would hesitate to call the foul? No. They would not. Sportsmanship favors the shooter in any case, but the shot was clear enough to dozens of spectators who were there. #2 sounds are weird on the high-speed review. You can see the ball's natural reaction and hear the rail reverberation well. #3 slow it down and watch his body he pulls away and UP just before the ball would make contact. Physics doesn't allow for the contact. #4 stop being salty. Your eyes, ears, and judgment are not better than all the players, refs, commentators, and audience that were present. Get over it.
That's one of those hard to call fouls. You're only hearing it with headphones on and microphones pointed directly to catch the sound of the balls. It also could've been his stick hitting the bridge too. Looking at it super slow the angle doesn't seem to change enough to suggest it hit the cue but I don't think the ref is corrupt or incompetent. Anyone could've made that mistake usually if a cue hits a ball when moving the bridge it's a ton more obvious.
you guys are so bad lol... it's not a foul. the cue stick is clearly above the height of the balls. the curve in trajectory is purely off of the top spin. there is a frame where the cue is seen above the image of the cue ball. if you still think it contacted the cue ball before this image, it's purely off speculation because it does not visibly change angle at all. it changes after that frame even. which means the cue is above the cue ball before it curves. 40:44 if you can pause and do frame by frame with dot (.) key, you can see the cue stick is above the ball and overlapping the image. if you move forward the frames, you can see the cue ball is still curving. if the cue stick contacted the ball, it should have affected the cue ball drastically or even kill most of the spin. the forward spin off the rail is retained and still in effect.
In snooker, players call their own fouls if the ref doesn't see it. And the prize money is much greater than pool. I don't see why not calling them in a smaller game.
It's difficult to see if it was a foul, the cue curved but the question is if it was because it hit the tip of the cue, or due to spin. A shot like that requires inside spin which would cause the cue to curve ever so slightly. If I'm not mistaken, the opponent can ask for the shot to be challenged using replay, if that is the case, it's not only the refs fault but also the opponent's fault.
I really don't understand why the commentating is so delayed. You can even hear the delay when they break. I'm sure it wouldn't be that difficult to lineup the commentators sound with the original sound. I can tell that he was commentating this virtually, "live" from home. But you can always edit the sound before you post it to youtube. Would be pretty easy I would imagine. Just line up the sound of the break
Kaci didnt draw back for better position on that last 3 because he was a little nerous,hill hill with a chance for a victory of the great SVB, and it's a little tougher to draw back. So he figured he would be slick and just stop the ball..look what that got him.. Walk on home boy.
No need to be condescendent about it. Only someone with equal or superior skill has the right to...and lemme guess, youre not Jayson Shaw or SVB...my guess is you're american...
Where I am from there is an old cliche that sure is true in this match>>>>"Cream floats to the top." Shane showed his sportsmanship even when it seemed he was way behind. Kaci is a very steady player and as seen formidable, but I feel he was fortunate to get as close as he did.
He obviously fouled. SVB is just adding to his cheating reputation. I dont understand what kind of POS will pretend the ball trajectory didnt change by lots, its so clear just some stupid cretin would try to argue this
Every Pool player knows, if he does a foul shot... it is a shame, that shane did not say this to referee... fucking cheating player.... shame on you shane !!! He can learn to be fair like many of snooker players.
Why does Shane break with his playing cue sometimes? I'm only 25 minutes in, but I don't even see his break cue by his chair. I've noticed he does that on other occasions as well.
He’s been doing that since he was a kid. Racking the 9 on the spot is a very touchy break. Requires the perfect combination of spin and speed as well as where you hit the 1 ball and he just feels sometimes he can do that better with his playing cue. He seems to only do it when he playing a rotation game because he’s trying to do something specific with the 1.
Shane is breaking and shooting the same cue looks like a carbon fiber shaft I was wondering if that would begin to happen. The tip is my only concern for my self I'm sure his his sponsors don't mind putting $100 tip on like you every tournament but kind of tough for me to do right at this moment. Shane is taking it to the younger player now. Earl has had a big impact on Shane I can see alot of Earl in his play but Earl doesn't like the carbon shafts Earl doesn't like anything new lol. I'd love to see one last Moscone cup with Earl n Shane both on the team.
Shane has a strong, but controlled break that I don't think would cause too much mushrooming if he uses a medium tip. And even if it does, it should be only around $40 to replace.
@@musicislifeproductions3602 look at the ball changing direction when it hit the tip of the cue, also the sound, hear carefully. (sorry my bad english)
Visually it was not a bad call. The clicks anyone heard could have come from lots, that's LOTS, of moving surfaces. Good call, lots of bias, jealousy, & maybe some hate. In the end, SHANE WAS HEROIC TO DIG OUT A VICTORY IN THE MOST DIFFICULT SCENARIO IMAGINABLE. KACI is a robot with a great future. Shane is an artistic, brave, champion. IMO.
@@useranother667 he is deaf but not a cheat SVB is top in the world at many games of pocket billard's you don't do that by cheating sounds like a hater not a player comment to me.
dont even need the sound, the ball immensily and instantly changed trajectory and slightly slowed when it touched the cut tip. Shane the CHEAT obviously felt the touch on the hand holding the cue.
Shit happens plain and simple, I watched the “possible” foul a dozen times, aaannddd, it could have been the rest hitting the shaft that made the noise. Play enough pool and everything happens. ✌️, and to close to call, goes to the runner. Sportsmanship is what it should be about.
Well said. Personally I do believe it was a foul but I also agree word for word with every thing you just said. I think Kaci definitely showed great class and sportsmanship especially if he was thinking that was a foul.
It was an obv foul, especially after replay audio at real time. Me being a Shane fan, surprised as hell he didn't call it himself! Lil shame Shane there :/
@@mtalam7988 not that I've seen he is shooting a carbon fiber shaft I see I been wondering with the zero deflection how long untill players would start doing this.
Exactly he could have sealed the deal regardless of what you think correct or not. Or maybe with all your knowledge and top notch play, you can attempt to play at that level and see how you do. After all you and a few others have quite a bit to say
Well deserved win for Shane! Way to stay in there and come back from a huge deficit. For those that think Kaci was cheated, he only cheated himself by not finishing it.
@@CynicalMiracal Or pay the ref. Lol jk. I honestly think if Shane hit that ball he would have gave it. Moving both the cue and the bridge there's a lot of bumping against two sticks if, I'm not saying it did, it touched it would be difficult to tell by player
@@CynicalMiracal I keep looking in slow motion and still no foul bud, sorry. top inside spin, its delayed because of the speed of the shot, english didn't take on the cloth until mid way down. Go experiment with the shot and you'll find similar results. Just look where his cue would have hit ,if it did, it would slow the cue ball down some and actually throw it to the left side. Cueball always want to follow its tangent line until the spin actually gets that friction. exactly what happened here
On 2nd game the un knowledgeable alex the commentator says shane appears to have over hit the ball, when shane simply goes 2 rails..drawing perfect shape, i get so tired of commentators who dont know what their talking about, i mean if your gonna run your mouth make it something worth hearing, someone please tell alex "oh look, the queen" so he will get distracted and not speak.
great match. Kaci always looks so solid and seasoned. One of my favorite players to watch. And Shane is the best player in the world and proves it time and time again.
The mics on this table were outstanding. Good commentary too!
wow to come from that deficit on alternate break! great play from both players, and really nice commentary Alex
Interesting shot at 40:30 that many people are talking about in the comments. I believe the preponderance of the evidence favors the conclusion that Shane did not hit the cue ball with his cue after he took the shot.
If you look at the video frame by frame, you can see that when the cue ball gets to the shaft of Shane's cue the shaft is in fact already above the cue ball. If he had hit the cue ball ball with his shaft the cue ball would have drastically slowed down and also changed direction immediately. It does neither. It does not slow down at all (physically impossible if he hit it with his cue given the position and movement of the cue) and does not curve until it is clearly past Shane's cue by at least a couple of rotations (again, physically impossible if the reason the cue ball curved was because he hit it with his cue).
Shane put a touch of left English on the cue ball to get it over toward the 7, which takes effect after the cue ball passes his cue on its way up table. The sound you hear is the bridge hitting the side of the shaft of Shane's cue as he twists it (you can also clearly see him twisting the bridge into his shaft in the video). The referee was right there and would have known if Shane had hit the cue ball with the shaft or the tip of his cue, as would both Shane and Kaci. The camera angle (above the table so that you are looking down on the cue ball and the shaft of Shane's cue) makes it impossible to see any space between the shaft and the cue ball, even if there was space between them.
Yeah I’m spoiled by earls commentary now. Sorry but he’s the goat of it and a legend in the game
Nope efren reyes is a goat
@@anmabzmabantamabanta2773
Think Joe's talking about commentating. Don't recall Efren doing any of that.
@@anmabzmabantamabanta2773 he was speaking bout commentary and btw earl is better 9 ball and 10 ball player than efren
Such a great match, Klenti just started feelin the pressure. Great young player....what a way to represent the future for pool....Proud of Shane, seems like always a nail biter....Mr. Lely Thank you for coming back over this match and commentating.....
proud of no fair play
@@耳鳴り-x5o what's that mean?
@@caseysrodeo14 40:30
I think that Kaci Will Be Great!!
Totally agree with you👍
me too. After his WPA World Series 8 bal win, i thought he's be the next great thing.
@@seancyco9446 価格破壊かか
@@幸俊井上 おじいちゃん痴呆かな🤔？
His not a legend yet...
Kaci will only get more lethal in time...massive skills 👏 👌
thanks for watching!
Best announced pool game I've ever heard... good job..
Alex I want you to know you do a great job of commenting the match. i am out of the Phoenix in the USA. We need great commentary to grow the sport and you do a wonderful job. Johnny Henson
Did you know Jack Madden when he played out of PHX and had his cue business there before retiring and building cues in Montana? I have a 2012 signature cue(1 of 30)he made in Montana that year.
Billiard University thanks for the appreciation... much appreciated especially since this is a non profit project for the moment
earl is best
@@ia7277 There is only one Earl. We need lots of good commentators on this sport. This was some great commentating and I would listen to it while watching pool anytime.
@@Z0MBM0Z absolutely right, sir! Anything to grow the sport. Has @billiardnetwork considered looking into getting some Earl clones?
How good was the shot at 22:00, wow
thanks for watching!
28:03 was a hell of a shot too
40:35
Its not that difficult shot.
@@fabunch4o759 thats a foul
The shot at 40:40, like many are saying, was a foul. In slow-mo the cue ball comes off the end rail going slightly left, then changes to slightly right. Still you can't put the entire match on one shot.
Actually, at this caliber of play...you can. As good as Kaci was playin, if he gets ball in hand the way he should have on that foul I don’t believe Shane wins. But we’ll never know. I’m team USA n I’m a huge svb fan, but I think he got away with one and it made the difference. At least he earned it by coming with some amazing shots the rest of the match.
@@TheJsjr true one. This was a foul. You can even hear it! But nevertheless, this was great match before AND after! Good Game
Great match and best commentator in the business, in my opinion. Unfortunate that the commentary is delayed from the action by a few seconds.
I agree. Alex is my favorite commentator. Steve Davis commented a few matches back in the day and he was great too. People lately really like Earl and Jones but I'm not too big on them.
Earl is the best ever.
40:35 - First time I ever 'heard' a foul watching pool videos. Can't blame Shane though. If you have a ref and he doesn't catch it, then fair game. In a bar though, I advise calling it on yourself or you may end up outside before paying your tab in a money game....
40:50 its a foul ..you can hear the sound of the contact as well
biggest foul missed in a modern eurotour. So incredibly crap a way to lose a final. Well possibly. Wouldve been different if that had been spotted.
"missed"... I'm sure the referee who was there only for that "didn't see/hear/notice" it. Hell, anyone could see it. Stupid fixed match and cheaters.
Great match great commentation real pleasure to see.
Glad you enjoyed it
@@billiardnetwork One of the best that's been on here very good I'll watch it again just for the first 7 games
Great match. Kaci very unlucky on that bank and the non foul call. Great match tho
unlucky to be cheated?
Unlucky to not seal the deal with 5-0 lead, I think that's what u mean
@@danieldamore1414 and be cheated
Not a foul! You can see Shane's whole tip the whole time. There is no way for the tip to be visible and hit the cue ball.
I just tuned in to hear lely talk, lol.
40:32 should be a foul. You can actually hear the cue ball hit the tip of the cue with headphones on
yes ! thats what i saw and heard. FOUL
The change in direction of the cue ball is a major indication too.
@@poolmathers6613 I agree, who knows how this match would have turned out. Makes me think the opponent should have a challenge option to look at the replay. At least in the final match.
You can even see the direction of the cue ball change after it hits his tip again.
@@anthonyvlogs01 yes you can
Very enjoyable match, and loved Alex's commentating as usual. Nice little cameo at the end of pre-mullet Sky and Billy. I long for those simple days, before covid ravaged the world, and our top US pros didn't look like Borat characters.
Glad you enjoyed it
Sick match!
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I have feel for Kaci. I saw him play a great match against Jason Shaw and lose it in the end. He’s a great player but just can’t get past these super stars.
What? 😂 he is a superstar himself, been a world 8 champion since forever, now twice 10 ball wch. Last 10 championship he beat filler, shane, and svr 🤪
@@flogertisufaj1338 I must have seen all his loser games.
I switch into 0.25 fast and watch the 40:35 shot.
It's really hard to call a foul.
Even we can only hear the sound of the cue touch the bridge or the cue ball.
Cue ball changes directions. You can clearly see it, it's a foul.
It’s precisely matches like this one why I watch SVB at work!!!! Xoxoxoxoxo The man is not a quitter!!!! Xoxoxoxoxo
Who else can only stand Earl the Pearl describe the game ?
only? hmmm I don't mind this guy.
I agree. Gotta enjoy while the man Strickland can do it
40:40 the sound of the snick can clearly be heard. And the cue ball changed its trajectory a little bit tho it was in the same natural direction as it would take because of the top spin on it. I think Shane knew it hahah...
Man, I always thought Shane was the type of guy to call a foul a foul, this is really disappointing
It was not a foul kid. Read my comments above.
I doubt he fouled
He didn't foul. .... N for billiard Network to only replay,... Practically just that replay throughout the whole match is very sketchy. Shane came back from 5 down. For all that think he cheated should tell Kaci to retire
@@Josh.Watson Pls copy paste your comment here, there are too many comments to find out a specific one.
Wow what an incredible match! Great play from both players. Ridiculous comeback by Shane. Showed a lot of heart.
and a little cheat.
Stop will u
Should I be questioning having displays all around them that keep changing??? Or is that part of the challenge?
u don t see any while down on the shot
@@billiardnetwork That's a nice optical illusion. It looks like they are starring right at it when they are shooting. The displays must be right below the table height.
@@billiardnetwork
Actually I saw the advertising lights change several times while they were down on the shot.
@@jamest3552 u cant see the the panels when u are down on the shot
Sergio Romero play billiard ?
The commentary has a delay and on top of that, the commentator makes some bad suppositions as to what plays are about to be made
45:25 hellaaa shot🔥🔥🔥
thanks for watching
First time I have seen a break and run on the first rack .
Watch Efren and Earl in 2003 pro masters 9 ball
Kaci you are the best 🔥🔥🔥🔥
What a great comeback Shane.
yes, very strong....there s a copy of this match that has Jereme s Jones commentary
40:35 hasta los jueces en el pool son corruptos xD
Parece falta porque en la repetición es la sensacion que da. pero no lo es. No toca la bola por 2º vez si lo miras fotograma a fotograma en la velocidad normal.
Si la bola blanca toca el Taco, se hubiera frenado y no llega con velocidad a la banda para luego Rebotar y quedar dónde quedó para el Próximo Tiro
I'm from Jember (padomasan)present..shan van boening the best
You all here complaining about SVB's foul...how about Justin Bergmans foul with the 9 ball last years mosconi cup?! i got crucified for pointing that one out, but it was obvious.....and the refs reviewed it and called it a good hit.
Best European commentator and captain vs best American commentator and captain.
And best two teams... Mosconi gonna be LIT 🔥
Obvious foul at 40:35!! Even the cue ball changed direction!!
Wtf they need a referee then?
Spin took effect
@@Bluemax54 there was no spin, you can see he took a natural shot. Whoever says no foul is bogus af
40:40 That's cameras are for
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SVB remarkable match!! Kaci is good too
this final was a robber !!! 40:35 !!!!!!
1:02:40 is the moment Kaci lost the match. There I thought he would draw back to play combination on the 9 or just pocket the 3 but he probably felt too much pressure on him. Anyway both Kaci and SVB played well, I have enjoyed the match.
@Breeze Allday So you are the only person ever to type the wrong letter in a comment section? I was wondering who that famous person was. Like you didnt know what that person meant. Go away now with your nonsense
@Breeze Allday nonsense, it should have been called then. He is a champ in many different games of pool. He is seasoned and Kaci is a young great player who with experience will have his days. Don't take anything from SVB, he is one of the greats, young and a 5 time winner in 9 ball, tied with Earl and he has a long way to go. Not to mention a champ in all other pool games.
@Breeze Allday stop it already
. You are arguing about 2 great players here and I like both. SVB is way younger and has a long way to go and probably will surpass many more
Nonsense
no, it is 40:35
What a comeback SvB!
one of the best matches i ve seen!
thanks for watching!
There was not a foul. I shot this about 20 times just to verify the angle and how it's created. I even purposefully fouled in order to see the ball's reaction and to check what you should see if there were a foul.
It was not a foul. Other justifications are here:
#1 does anyone think that a European tour player and ref would hesitate to call the foul? No. They would not. Sportsmanship favors the shooter in any case, but the shot was clear enough to dozens of spectators who were there.
#2 sounds are weird on the high-speed review. You can see the ball's natural reaction and hear the rail reverberation well.
#3 slow it down and watch his body he pulls away and UP just before the ball would make contact. Physics doesn't allow for the contact.
#4 stop being salty. Your eyes, ears, and judgment are not better than all the players, refs, commentators, and audience that were present. Get over it.
Keep the propaganda going. You will fool the fool only who didn't see it or are cheaters themselves.
You arent going to live this cheat down
Some of the safety play is really poor. It is an element that seems way under-par in 9-ball
That's one of those hard to call fouls. You're only hearing it with headphones on and microphones pointed directly to catch the sound of the balls. It also could've been his stick hitting the bridge too. Looking at it super slow the angle doesn't seem to change enough to suggest it hit the cue but I don't think the ref is corrupt or incompetent. Anyone could've made that mistake usually if a cue hits a ball when moving the bridge it's a ton more obvious.
pls note down the year in which tournament is held in title.
Minh Tran it is in the details
40:40 foul
I agree!! cue hit his stick and he knew it .
@@Dscotthoward1962 the ref was right there the spin on the strike of the cue not a foul geez your all haters not players huh?
@@gino2033 anyone with an eye can see it
The ref has eyes he didn't say anything.
@@gino2033 Are you blind? Refs either corrupt or incompetent
Shane is great
little cheat
Bullshit, he is great and has the titles to back it. Stop the nonsense.
@@danieldamore1414 He didn't call his own foul though. He's also very well known for cheating on breaks.
you guys are so bad lol... it's not a foul. the cue stick is clearly above the height of the balls. the curve in trajectory is purely off of the top spin.
there is a frame where the cue is seen above the image of the cue ball. if you still think it contacted the cue ball before this image, it's purely off speculation because it does not visibly change angle at all. it changes after that frame even. which means the cue is above the cue ball before it curves.
40:44 if you can pause and do frame by frame with dot (.) key, you can see the cue stick is above the ball and overlapping the image. if you move forward the frames, you can see the cue ball is still curving. if the cue stick contacted the ball, it should have affected the cue ball drastically or even kill most of the spin. the forward spin off the rail is retained and still in effect.
Like Alex said it's the refs fault if foul isn't called.
In snooker, players call their own fouls if the ref doesn't see it. And the prize money is much greater than pool. I don't see why not calling them in a smaller game.
It's difficult to see if it was a foul, the cue curved but the question is if it was because it hit the tip of the cue, or due to spin. A shot like that requires inside spin which would cause the cue to curve ever so slightly. If I'm not mistaken, the opponent can ask for the shot to be challenged using replay, if that is the case, it's not only the refs fault but also the opponent's fault.
Eklent Kaci the only champion !!!
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Yep, they cheated him.
I really don't understand why the commentating is so delayed. You can even hear the delay when they break. I'm sure it wouldn't be that difficult to lineup the commentators sound with the original sound. I can tell that he was commentating this virtually, "live" from home. But you can always edit the sound before you post it to youtube. Would be pretty easy I would imagine. Just line up the sound of the break
Sean Ellen some pf the reactions are delayed... from 6-2 the reactions are ok... the sounds of the balls are all in perfect sync
@@billiardnetwork yeah as I watched more of it I realized its start to get better. Always love the Billiard Network.
Van Broening is the best. Some how I knew he would come back and win.
"somehow" (cheating)
SHANE YOU ARE THE BEST POOL PLAYER EVER AWESOME come back
Kaci didnt draw back for better position on that last 3 because he was a little nerous,hill hill with a chance for a victory of the great SVB, and it's a little tougher to draw back. So he figured he would be slick and just stop the ball..look what that got him..
Walk on home boy.
No need to be condescendent about it. Only someone with equal or superior skill has the right to...and lemme guess, youre not Jayson Shaw or SVB...my guess is you're american...
Thanks guys.
Great match SHANE, what a comeback, by far my favorite player he is amazing, what a touch he has, and so skilled at his craft.
Such a little chewt
Hey why don't you user another player to complain about
Where I am from there is an old cliche that sure is true in this match>>>>"Cream floats to the top." Shane showed his sportsmanship even when it seemed he was way behind. Kaci is a very steady player and as seen formidable, but I feel he was fortunate to get as close as he did.
He fouled in the 10th frame. Not good sportsmanship.
He was down tremendously, Kaci could have sealed it easy before that. But he did not
Damn!
Absolutely EPIC!!!
Great camera work!
Great match! Controversial shot with the bridge.. Still not clear if it was a foul :/
It was a foul. You can hear the sound. It was a snick.
@@observer991 Stop talking nonsense, Shane is great but he cheated here.
It probably was not a foul
He obviously fouled. SVB is just adding to his cheating reputation. I dont understand what kind of POS will pretend the ball trajectory didnt change by lots, its so clear just some stupid cretin would try to argue this
its crystal clear a foul
Every Pool player knows, if he does a foul shot... it is a shame, that shane did not say this to referee... fucking cheating player.... shame on you shane !!! He can learn to be fair like many of snooker players.
True that... if one commits a foul and the ref doesn't call it, any respectable and self-respecting pool player should point it out.
Like a phoenix from the ashes! Great commentary Alex!!!
I had to look that one up myself...not quite versed enough I suppose but I knew it sounded cool!
Foul at 40:30 and svb acts like nothing happened. He knows it's a foul and still proceeded, thats a shame!
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Albanian power
Lol if i see a post of a match im always hiped and then i see its from 3 or 5 years ago. Would be nice to write it in the title
Wow, what a comeback
It felt like the commentator was five seconds behind the actual play. Nice match though.
First seven rack he had a delayed response to some shots... all good from rack 8... thanks for watching
Wow that foul... That referee... Corrupt
@Mike Tiger "Keep repeating a lie and eventually it becomes the truth" -Adolf Hitler
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Keep repeating the truth and eventually it gets sensored - anonymous.
Why does Shane break with his playing cue sometimes? I'm only 25 minutes in, but I don't even see his break cue by his chair. I've noticed he does that on other occasions as well.
He’s been doing that since he was a kid. Racking the 9 on the spot is a very touchy break. Requires the perfect combination of spin and speed as well as where you hit the 1 ball and he just feels sometimes he can do that better with his playing cue. He seems to only do it when he playing a rotation game because he’s trying to do something specific with the 1.
I like it more
Po paske qen nje deshtak i finaleve to📢
Another great game, thanks a lot. Is it me or the commentator called twice a top hit when Shane was drawing ?
Shane was soo unlucky to scratch after every good hit from being snookered
Wow great match! Pool can be like that sometimes! Next time Kachi. Congrats Shane!🙌
thanks for watching!
Billiard Network thank you! It’s such a pleasure! Keep up the good work.
the match was spoiled by that uncalled foul
Shane is breaking and shooting the same cue looks like a carbon fiber shaft I was wondering if that would begin to happen. The tip is my only concern for my self I'm sure his his sponsors don't mind putting $100 tip on like you every tournament but kind of tough for me to do right at this moment. Shane is taking it to the younger player now. Earl has had a big impact on Shane I can see alot of Earl in his play but Earl doesn't like the carbon shafts Earl doesn't like anything new lol. I'd love to see one last Moscone cup with Earl n Shane both on the team.
Shane has a strong, but controlled break that I don't think would cause too much mushrooming if he uses a medium tip. And even if it does, it should be only around $40 to replace.
The pig skin are $40 then getting it put on you will be close to $100 lol
do not put Shame the Cheat in the same sentence as Legendary Pearl
@@randoom2405 Shane and Earl lived together in New York, pro's at Steinways Billard club. So they shot often then and were/are good friends.
@@randoom2405 Yes Earl the Pearl his old Nick name he is 3 years younger then me.
Excellent comeback, great match.
Sean Cyco we have the greatest comeback today in the shaw melling match
@40:33 - 40:42 shane made a foul.
I doubt that
@@musicislifeproductions3602 look at the ball changing direction when it hit the tip of the cue, also the sound, hear carefully. (sorry my bad english)
@@musicislifeproductions3602 either stupid or malicious. I'd say both
1 minute shot clock would be better. Don't have to run to get a different que. hurry shots and miss. More time better shot selection. better pool.
Visually it was not a bad call. The clicks anyone heard could have come from lots, that's LOTS,
of moving surfaces. Good call, lots of bias, jealousy, & maybe some hate. In the end, SHANE WAS HEROIC TO DIG OUT A VICTORY IN THE MOST DIFFICULT SCENARIO IMAGINABLE.
KACI is a robot with a great future. Shane is an artistic, brave, champion. IMO.
Thanks for watching
cheat not champ
45:00
40:39 😂😂😂 foul
lol no
@@-YiY- lol yes
Wow Shane is something isn't he.
a cheat
He is amazing
@@useranother667 he is deaf but not a cheat SVB is top in the world at many games of pocket billard's you don't do that by cheating sounds like a hater not a player comment to me.
@@gino2033 Hes def a cheat. he didn't have to hear it, he felt the touch in his cue, it's impossible to not feel
@@gino2033 absolutely, total hater. I suppose a troll
40:50 it was a faul. 😕
dont even need the sound, the ball immensily and instantly changed trajectory and slightly slowed when it touched the cut tip. Shane the CHEAT obviously felt the touch on the hand holding the cue.
Shit happens plain and simple, I watched the “possible” foul a dozen times, aaannddd, it could have been the rest hitting the shaft that made the noise. Play enough pool and everything happens. ✌️, and to close to call, goes to the runner. Sportsmanship is what it should be about.
fu cheater
Well said. Personally I do believe it was a foul but I also agree word for word with every thing you just said. I think Kaci definitely showed great class and sportsmanship especially if he was thinking that was a foul.
Great video and commentator :-)
Alex Lely yup he’s good
40:40 was definitely a foul, that is why we call nine ball the game for thieves!!
we don't call it that....
It was an obv foul, especially after replay audio at real time. Me being a Shane fan, surprised as hell he didn't call it himself! Lil shame Shane there :/
Never heard it called that in all of my 30 years of playing
Like both of players, from viet nam with love!!!
no love shame the cheat
@@randoom2405
It's not cheating if the ref doesn't call a foul.
@@jamest3552 that is exactly what cheating ia
Please change the title... it gave away the scoreline. (Dramatic = hill hill).
Is Shane breaking and shooting the same cue stick?
yeah, sometimes he did that
@@mtalam7988 not that I've seen he is shooting a carbon fiber shaft I see I been wondering with the zero deflection how long untill players would start doing this.
At 1:05:22, that look signifies the sinking feeling of pissing away a 5-0 lead. OUCH.
the foul tho
Exactly he could have sealed the deal regardless of what you think correct or not. Or maybe with all your knowledge and top notch play, you can attempt to play at that level and see how you do. After all you and a few others have quite a bit to say
he played against 2
Good announcing.
Well deserved win for Shane! Way to stay in there and come back from a huge deficit.
For those that think Kaci was cheated, he only cheated himself by not finishing it.
Lol, good one, I'll remember that next time someone moves the cueball in my game, "Well, I should have finished it!" Looooooooooool 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@CynicalMiracal
Or pay the ref. Lol jk.
I honestly think if Shane hit that ball he would have gave it. Moving both the cue and the bridge there's a lot of bumping against two sticks if, I'm not saying it did, it touched it would be difficult to tell by player
@@CynicalMiracal
But yes dont depend on nobody but yourself to win a match.
@@CynicalMiracal I keep looking in slow motion and still no foul bud, sorry. top inside spin, its delayed because of the speed of the shot, english didn't take on the cloth until mid way down. Go experiment with the shot and you'll find similar results. Just look where his cue would have hit ,if it did, it would slow the cue ball down some and actually throw it to the left side. Cueball always want to follow its tangent line until the spin actually gets that friction. exactly what happened here
Well deserved cheat
Eklent is one of the best Pool Player for me .. but a litle bit to slow..
still would win if not for the Cheat
@@jefehambing6089 there is no murder too
On 2nd game the un knowledgeable alex the commentator says shane appears to have over hit the ball, when shane simply goes 2 rails..drawing perfect shape, i get so tired of commentators who dont know what their talking about, i mean if your gonna run your mouth make it something worth hearing, someone please tell alex "oh look, the queen" so he will get distracted and not speak.