Based on social trends CA and TX at first sounds odd, but alliances are more often based on serving economic interest. California and Texas are the two wealthiest states in the republic; the 5th and 9th largest economies in the world. There are plenty of hypothetical scenarios that can work logically for this story.
I'd bet the rogue president is basically backed by the North East Coast (NY, Penn etc). Given Texas & California effectively represent the only states that could challenge that then an alliance of convenience to restore the rule of law in the US makes perfect sense.
What if an independent candidate finally won because people finally got tired of the two political extremes and They're waging war on those that seceded?
Shoutout to A24 for having the balls to pick this up. It’s why I love that company, they’re the most creator friendly company in the industry. Alex Garland is a great filmmaker, I wasn’t crazy about Men but I still appreciate the artistry of it. I will be seeing this opening weekend
10 years ago this would've been like any other London has Fallen-esque movie because it would've been absurd fiction for the sake of entertainment. These days, it doesn't feel as farfetched as it used to be.
@@ms.amelazzara3089 I do not understand the concept of "illegality" with civil wars. When you commit a crime they are supposed to put you in PRISON. Its why I will never try to rob a bank. But there are so many thousands or hundreds of thousands of soldiers in a war that the prisons would get badly over crowded if they had to be tried for crimes.
As a Londoner with a keen interest in politics and love for America moreover, this is super scary and is really very close to the bone. Saw a doc about Julius Caesar and the fall of the Roman Republic, and the bringing about if the Roman Empire. Many of us that live in democracies unfortunately take it for granted. The rise of authoritarianism around the global should be a like a fire alarm sounding to all us! Surely, we need to work to protect the democracy and not sleepwalk into the abyss. I am looking forward to seeing this movie, but I worry it could be more prophetic than we fear. Great and raw reaction @John Rocha! Thank you as always for you heartfelt views. Safe strong, stay safe out there!
I am telling you now: Trumps badly applied fake tan is coded authoritarian messaging. Watch ‘Rome’ or look at many paintings of Caesar returning to Rome in a state Triumph after his conquest of Gaul, you will see what I mean. There is no way that his PR team are letting him go on camera looking like that without knowing the subtext.
This film trailer is chilling; gives the viewer a sense of dread and plausible chaos that would ensue. Many think the Coalition of California and Texas is ludicrous; yet it is theoretically plausible, especially if both secede for different reasons and Washington attacks them both then they form that Coalition. Remember California, Florida and Texas comprise 115 million Americans, which is scary because Washington has problems with third world countries of just 10-20 million. Then there’s 40 million Americans with AR’s; the scary thing is though Rural hunters with their millions of bolt action sniper type rifles, image if each of them decide on a Stalingrad War. Remember in Virginia where they used accurate sniper shots to take out power to tens of thousands, and that was just two hunters I believe, imagine what thousands can accomplish. Then there’s the military, like in all Civil Conflicts where it’s members take sides; it won’t just blindly follow orders. Therefore you’ll have pilots, soldiers, seamen and entire installations take sides. Furthermore Hackers around the globe will use it to cover massive cyber attacks on our infrastructure. In the South and West the Red States have said they’d cut off the food supply chain to major urban areas. People have no idea how bad it would become; a 21st Century Civil War would make the first seem like a Reenactment skirmish. The major catalyst would more than likely be a new Constitutional Convention, which most politicians fear because that would definitely trigger a war. It takes like 34 States to vote for a New Convention but 38 States to ratify, this is where the fuse is lit, because no side can get the 38, fear becomes anger turning to hate, followed by divorce, then suffering and carnage.
The problem with a civil between states is that it’s nearly impossible to separate Red States from Blue States. For every Red State, there are Blue Cities. For every Blue State there are millions of Red in the countryside. So this not be a North / South or East / West thing. This time around, every state could be at war with itself. And that's super messed up.
for those who are fearful about this movie inspiring anything happening in real life... just embrace it, it is going to happen soon, nothing can stop it at this point, go and watch the movie and enjoy yourself while you can, before the film becomes reality.
If this was to happen after an election it means that 10s of millions of people voted for a government and that the ones who start the Civil War are against the government voted in . Those people are identified as traitors and the response from th US government has to be very forceful with the threat of use of nuclear weapons. Only the president has the nuclear codes so it would be interesting to see how this movie will address that issue . So civil war is very unlikely in real life
I agree that I'm not "excited" for this movie in the same way as others. My anticipation of this one is also filled with dread, in even more of a way than before a horror movie. It's not a feeling I associate with movies very much so it's also kind of interesting, exciting, and novel. If that makes sense
Terrifying. From Ex M to Annihilation to Man and to Civil War. Garland has a way of digging into your subconscious and stoking your unrealized fears. Problem is, if you're already there, and seeing between the lines, he's breaking all kinds of new ground. Even in his FX series Devs (Deus), the man is a true visionary. This film will be excellent.
People keep saying California and Texas allying makes no sense. To me it makes perfect sense. Both have been the most vocal about breaking away and one need look at history to see two sides can ally despite political and idealogical differences if they have a common goal and a larger threat. Them breaking away first makes sense as it wouldn't be about red or blue, but about the desire to go it alone, not be told what to do, and they would ally on that mind set.
the "What kind of American are you?" quote is just spine chilling i mean seriously. theres already americans who talk just like that man and its scary.
This trailer was so hard to watch. Shook me to my core, honestly. I love Alex Garland’s work, his vision. Art is supposed to challenge us sometimes. I look forward to being uncomfortable in the movie theater watching this day one.
Anyone notice how the soldier with glasses sees red? Maybe representing how he only sees things from one side of the political spectrum or is filled with anger.
The left are wiping their ass with the Constitution and sending all of our money to foreign nations; the neocons are basically both parties. Open border Marxist.
I worked as civilian Air Force Police, Security for an NSA site, and then became an investigator for Homeland Security. All that time I wore an American flag patch on my uniform, and did so with an enormous amount of pride - I was happy knowing I did my part to keep the country and Americans safe and secure. I also lived in the Florida Keys - 90 Miles from Cuba, and heard the stories of Castro's takeover - soldiers going through people's homes and taking everything valuable, then shooting all the males in the head and... Well, you can guess the rest. As Castro's neighbor, I tried to warn people over the past 8 years of the dangers of having a dictator, but most are like, "that'll never happen, and besides, maybe things will be better with just one person making decisions instead of waiting 6 months for Congress to pass something". No, they won't be better - they'll be much, much worse; that's what dictators do. For a while now I've also been saying America is on the verge of a civil war. I had also lived in Charleston SC and Savannah GA, but now live in Chicago - and I think of how I love the song 'Dixie' which was something President Lincoln has said as well; that the song brought him to tears because it reminded him of the beauty of the South, but was sad that the country was being torn apart. I agree completely; some of the kindest people I've ever met were in Charleston and Savannah, and those places still have a piece of my heart. Last night after the Colorado Supreme Court announced they found Trump ineligible to be on the ballot there were so many threats of death and violence online coming from the Right that I've never see anything like it. And, comments like, "we don't care who wins the election; Trump will be our leader even if we have to insert him into the White House by force, and we're ready for this". I think the country is in big, big trouble and I think it's all over one man - and it all just breaks my heart.
I think there are going to be 2 reactions to it: 1. Scared and praying for it to remain fiction 2. Excited and prompted to push it to be a reality ....and I hope there are more 1s than 2s
This gives me Cyberpunk 2077 story vibes, like the years leading up to 2077, Corporate Wars, New United States of America, Rogue states. This also can weave seamlessly into the Leave The World Behind storyline as well. I'm almost scared to go watch it in the theaters, who knows what kind of conflict this could cause in the audience.
don't be worried. the movie is most likely gonna be about Texas and California joining forces to take down a tyranical president, remember the trailer said 3 term president. and he is probably gonna align with neither side of the political spectrum of the US. I'm guessing the story is gonna be more about unity than anything else
"I'm almost scared to go watch it in the theaters, who knows what kind of conflict this could cause in the audience." You know... that... is a VERY true statement. Depending on your area, this could be even more unsettling. I am not one to allow myself to fear my surroundings but knowing there are plenty of people who cannot accept certain realities, this is something I will be thinking about.
When someone asked you " What type of American are you ?" while holding an AR, there's only 2 answers ..... 1. I support Joe Biden 2. I am Maga! .. choose wisely in that scenario!
That was one of the most frightening trailers I’ve ever seen. I was just sitting here shaking my head. Maybe this will help the rhetoric calm down I doubt it, but I can hope.
This cautionary film was made because us as sane individuals let the insanity run to long. This is our warning. This is the result of saying i dont feel like talking about politics or have discourse.
Hi John, As an Irish Man/European watching America from the outside - it's a shitshow at moment - all the vested interests "fighting" for their slice of the pie. It doesn't matter whether your Red or Blue - Everyone needs the Basics - Food Shelter and warmth and lets face it - the for profit system you have doesn't work!!!! The American population need to wake up and hopefully the visual shock factor will help!!!
Even as a Scot living in the UK, this is chilling beyond belief. It feels like it’s going to be one of those films that acts like a dire warning such as Red Dawn, The Day After or, in the UK, 1983’s Threads, to this day the most chilling depiction of nuclear horror put to screen. It would be wrong to use the phrase “looking forward” to seeing this film, but I do want to see it. I have faith in Garland.
USA is gonna get hot and tense. Don't come over here. I'm not joking. Illegal migrant influx through our open Texas border is no joke. And it's an incentive and possible prelude to civil war. All that has to happen for it to go hot is martial law declared nationally.
That was creepy. He was FORCING them to commit to taking sides and not just letting them be REGULAR PEOPLE. It is a "you are either with us or against us" mentality without allowing a person to just be themselves.
This looks interesting. I've seen some people saying "TX and CA would never be on the same side" and I think the goal there is to not have to pit those two sides against one another. That would make the film seem like it's taking sides on actual current day political and cultural conflicts if one side were to ultimately prevail. By teaming together the two states that are probably the most representative of the two major political parties here in the States it makes it a lot easier to have an analysis or deconstruction of American politics without anyone disregarding the film entirely for perceived bias.
Not only that, but you can rationalize those two states having an alliance at least during a wartime scenario if they both decided to secede from the Union after a President refused to step down and began to serve a third term or something which they mention the current POTUS in the film to be a third term President. Like more just an alliance of convenience to fight the civil war and not some kind of political union meant to last after things have settled. California and Texas are both states that could probably survive on their own the best if the Union broke apart.
@@QuantumFlux_22 I mean, that is just factually not true. California alone has a higher GDP that a lot of full-fledged nation states and produces a huge quantity of food and goods. California has its own issues to be sure, but it would be able to function as a small country if it had to... especially because there would be a lot of European nations happy to ally with it to help with trade deals and such due to it being the center of a lot of tech industry stuff. The fact that California's tax subsidies are used to help a lot of other states is pretty solid proof they would be (relatively) fine compared to the vast majority of states in a similar situation. Texas, as mentioned, is one of the other few states that could probably survive on its own as long as it also eventually made alliances/deals with other western nations. Other states in the US would likely have to group together into their own unions to do what California or Texas could do.
Yo. This looks INCREDIBLE. scary? Yes. Absolutely. It's a terrifying reality to imagine, and a reality that could always have the potential to become real. However, let's not forget this is a film. A fictional scenario, and this is still meant at its core as entertainment. I see a lot of people in the comments getting a little ridiculous and acting like this movie is gospel or prophecy. Make sure to keep reality and fiction separated.
I felt your pain, brother. It was visceral. And it is scary. There is a real chance that we can have something like this really soon. God bless you man. Hang tough. We need good people, and I know you are one of the good ones. Be well.
Garland is a director who never leaves us indifferent. I like this trailer and the story he wants to tell us. As someone who is not part of the US this doesn't feel personal, but I understand and know why this story is scary or disturbing for someone.
Yeah... It looked cheesy and took me out of the trailer. No reason other than theatrics a filmmaker thought was needed, because low altitude F-22's flying over a warzone in America is apparently not exciting/impactful enough without planes doing rolls?
Well if they're flying low like that it means they have uncontested airspace or flying low to avoid enemy AA, but even if the society provided the separatist with s300s, the f22 has low radar cross section so why bother having to fly low
I’ve got a feeling this is going to be a very visceral controversial film that could make garland really popular in the world . I really took to rocha reaction here. And me knowing him he wouldn’t rest. This way loosely. I cannot wait to sink my teeth into this
I was really looking forward to your reaction to this trailer. I share your thoughts and feelings about this one. I felt chills down my spine the first time I saw it. I like the way you described it as a 'scary trailer' and having no relation to the horror genre. It does feel a bit scary. Great reaction video.
I watched Leave the World Behind the other day, and then this is coming out. For whatever reason, while watching the trailer, The Last Ship, a tv show, came to mind. There is a part in the show where the regional governors attempt a coup, and to break apart the US into regions under those governors. For whatever reason, that keeps entering my brain. Texas, and Cali is just weird. My only guess would be intention to secede, and working together temporarily expressly for that purpose.
Watch it with subtitles on. Read the words because too much audio is garbled. There is a news reporter that mentioned the 3rd Term President....that clearly plays a factor. Think about a sitting President seizing power for a 3rd term. What had to occur to bring THAT about?
What liberty are you talking about? The liberty to take away reproductive rights from women. The liberty to shove the LGBTQ+ community into the closet by falsely using religion to do it. The liberty to ban books that encourage freedom of thinking and the questioning of the systemic injustice in our country. Brother, MAGA people are pissing on the tree of liberty and calling it water.
I retired from the Army as SFC and like most people that I served with conservative. There is the chance that a civil war happens and that is why I believe people should be armed And informed
We still have a prequel to the Hunger Games in theaters right now. The actor for the young version of Senator Snow looks like he is barely 20 years old and the geriatric Donald Southerland looked like he had a foot in the grave in the first series of Hunger Games movies. It would be a prequel to the prequal ahahahahahha.
Lyrics from GNR Civil War are going off in my head "We've got the wall of D.C. to remind us all that you can't trust freedom when it's not in your hands." "The bloody hands of the hypnotized carry the cross of homicide " is fitting for the end of this trailer. In God they trust , live and kill by
I too am an Army vet (10 years). I cannot watch this movie. Like the Outlaw I keep my eyes on politics and this movie is too real for me. The trailer made me a little nervous. It looks amazing and could be another gold star for A24.
I'll be watching your reaction soon enough since I'm unable to watch at the moment, but I think the reaction of some, to bury their heads and say they don't need to see this because it seems too real, is kind of the point. Make people see what a second civil war would actually do. Honestly, since this is being made, I really hope this doesn't shy away from what might actually happen. I'm anticipating somewhere a scene that addresses potential ethnic cleansing or mass killings of political opponents. There is a lot of present day issues being presented like the targeting of civilians and the press, which unfortunately for some, might be what they would actually like to see in this country. The like of "what kind of American are you?" SHOULD be horrifying to everyone, but we know there are plenty of people in this country who have a definition of what an American is, that does not include swaths of the population. I won't say I am looking forward to watching this, but I definitely will be seeing it to see what kind of message this is trying to say.
It definitely seems like a warning to remember how horrifying a Civil War would actually be. I'd bet the women in the shop who is "trying to stay out of it" is also the one hanging in the doorway later on showing no-one would be safe or untouched by such an event.
Damn, brother. Had not even heard of this trailer. Thanks so much for the intro. I miss your discussions with Dorina. Take care, brother...and thank you for your service.
As far as I'm concerned, your reaction to _this_ film was the _only_ reaction I was interested in seeing. You are one of the very few on youtube I watch, who dares to talk about the state of your country's politics; also you're one of the rare ones really au fait with current affairs. The film seems grave, dystopian & realistic: similar to how I feel when watching The Handmaid's Tale.
@JohnRochaSays I think there are plenty of radical cry babies on both sides that are fed up with each other. Hence you are both very correct depending on where you are standing.
@user-yb1zq5sw6r ummm,lol,first off not a sir🤷♀️, so if something already happened it can't happen again? we can't have a second Civil War ? tell that to the people who fought World War II after World War I.... Hollywood does predict the future::: flip phones/ Star Trek ,laptops/ 2001 Space Odyssey, touch screen/ Minority Report... movies with black presidents before we had our first black president...Black Sunday/terror attack etc.... and we can have another civil war there are 330 million Americans in over 400 million guns Milling about.. so yeah, that could definitely happen... it's better to be aware and prepared then get caught with your dick in your hand...so to speak✌️
I am excited for this movie. This country needs leaders and if Alex Garland is willing to try to shake the table a bit, and it definitely looks like he is, my hat is OFF to him. The balls on this man. He was one of my favorite scifi directors and now idk. I can't imagine this film living up to my expectations. I want it to hit us like Crash did in 2004 for a lot of people. An emotional slap in the face is what a lot of people need, sorry. Love you John!
I'm looking forward to it. Love a lot of what Alex Garland does and Jesse Plemons is well worth the price of admission. I'm personally enjoying the folks that bathe in conspiracy culture and are losing their minds over some of the movies lately. "Predictive Programming!!!"
Maybe this is the movie we need. Like art imitating life it's holding up a mirror and saying this is you. Look at it. There are thousands of people who are pushing for this shit and it's not the glamorous, shootem up fantasy that they think it is. War is brutal. War is horrific. War should be avoided and god willing this mirror 🪞 film may wake enough people up to stop this shit from happening.
Ok, I’ll say that Trump is a little Hitler wanna be. I don’t support Biden. I don’t support Trump. Especially after HE said that the MAGA Camp would reject those that didn’t support him. I’d like to know if that means if he wouldn’t be a President to those that didn’t support him? I’ve ALWAYS said that THIS IS MY PRESIDENT whether I voted for them or not. I support the United States of America and The Constitution. Please reply.
I don’t do very well with films like this. I feel films like this, “The Hunt”, and even “The Purge” give those sick people out there really “bad ideas”. Many of us who don’t wear roses colored glasses and are engaged don’t need this kind of thing. This isn’t entertainment. I’m not sure what the point of why this was even made and if this was a means to educate people to be involved and unified, it’s failing. Hard pass for me. (Great reaction, Outlaw - thanks for your time in sharing this with us) 🙏🏻
I'm definitely going to check this out. Personally I don't mind the California + Texas team-up here, yeah I don't think it's realistic to the real world, but I think it works here as a way to remind us that this is ultimately a fiction story which I think is important.
Honestly i think the team-up makes sense, Cali and Texas are the most likely out of the states to thrive on their own and you know how it is, the enemy of my enemy is my friend
The story effectively seems to be that there is a President on his 3rd term which would be against the Twenty Second Amendment. It's not too hard to imagine a backstory of how that could happen. Assuming the rogue President is backed by the North East of the US then the only alliance capable of breaking that faction would likely be Texas & California working together so it does make a certain amount of sense and makes it more about the principles of the Constitution rather than Liberal vs Conservative ideology.
Yea, California had more trump voters than any other state besides texas so it’s not super far fetched in some reality that California and Texas could team up. Pretty wild.
Based on social trends CA and TX at first sounds odd, but alliances are more often based on serving economic interest. California and Texas are the two wealthiest states in the republic; the 5th and 9th largest economies in the world. There are plenty of hypothetical scenarios that can work logically for this story.
It's actually a 19 state alliance, that seceded the "Union" where Texas and California are the lead states, against the US.
Finally someone with a brain.
I'd bet the rogue president is basically backed by the North East Coast (NY, Penn etc). Given Texas & California effectively represent the only states that could challenge that then an alliance of convenience to restore the rule of law in the US makes perfect sense.
What if an independent candidate finally won because people finally got tired of the two political extremes and They're waging war on those that seceded?
Florida is in the “alliance” too, is what I heard in the trailer...oh 19 states.
It is scary to see how this does not seem far fetched. Very engaging reaction.
Until they said Texas and California are allies
@@MrTwessel30 Kind of but stranger things have happened
I liked it that Texas and California were allies because otherwise it’ll just be a Democratic vs. Republican States battle. Boring.
More then Half of my committee is ready
This is EXTREMELY far fetched.. so much so it’s hilarious and cringing ..
Shoutout to A24 for having the balls to pick this up. It’s why I love that company, they’re the most creator friendly company in the industry. Alex Garland is a great filmmaker, I wasn’t crazy about Men but I still appreciate the artistry of it. I will be seeing this opening weekend
They turned away Sound of Freedom but picked THIS up?! Make no mistake, this is going to be a VERY left wing bias movie.. bet
That had my heart pounding. This feels too close to reality.
10 years ago this would've been like any other London has Fallen-esque movie because it would've been absurd fiction for the sake of entertainment. These days, it doesn't feel as farfetched as it used to be.
we already had a civil war sir. This just looks like reality with some spice on it@@jyrrin
It Can't legally happen.
@@FlixCreEightR civil wars aren't usually legal....sooooo
@@ms.amelazzara3089 I do not understand the concept of "illegality" with civil wars. When you commit a crime they are supposed to put you in PRISON. Its why I will never try to rob a bank. But there are so many thousands or hundreds of thousands of soldiers in a war that the prisons would get badly over crowded if they had to be tried for crimes.
As a Londoner with a keen interest in politics and love for America moreover, this is super scary and is really very close to the bone.
Saw a doc about Julius Caesar and the fall of the Roman Republic, and the bringing about if the Roman Empire. Many of us that live in democracies unfortunately take it for granted. The rise of authoritarianism around the global should be a like a fire alarm sounding to all us! Surely, we need to work to protect the democracy and not sleepwalk into the abyss.
I am looking forward to seeing this movie, but I worry it could be more prophetic than we fear.
Great and raw reaction @John Rocha! Thank you as always for you heartfelt views. Safe strong, stay safe out there!
Vote for trump
I am telling you now: Trumps badly applied fake tan is coded authoritarian messaging. Watch ‘Rome’ or look at many paintings of Caesar returning to Rome in a state Triumph after his conquest of Gaul, you will see what I mean.
There is no way that his PR team are letting him go on camera looking like that without knowing the subtext.
This film trailer is chilling; gives the viewer a sense of dread and plausible chaos that would ensue. Many think the Coalition of California and Texas is ludicrous; yet it is theoretically plausible, especially if both secede for different reasons and Washington attacks them both then they form that Coalition.
Remember California, Florida and Texas comprise 115 million Americans, which is scary because Washington has problems with third world countries of just 10-20 million.
Then there’s 40 million Americans with AR’s; the scary thing is though Rural hunters with their millions of bolt action sniper type rifles, image if each of them decide on a Stalingrad War. Remember in Virginia where they used accurate sniper shots to take out power to tens of thousands, and that was just two hunters I believe, imagine what thousands can accomplish.
Then there’s the military, like in all Civil Conflicts where it’s members take sides; it won’t just blindly follow orders. Therefore you’ll have pilots, soldiers, seamen and entire installations take sides. Furthermore Hackers around the globe will use it to cover massive cyber attacks on our infrastructure. In the South and West the Red States have said they’d cut off the food supply chain to major urban areas. People have no idea how bad it would become; a 21st Century Civil War would make the first seem like a Reenactment skirmish.
The major catalyst would more than likely be a new Constitutional Convention, which most politicians fear because that would definitely trigger a war. It takes like 34 States to vote for a New Convention but 38 States to ratify, this is where the fuse is lit, because no side can get the 38, fear becomes anger turning to hate, followed by divorce, then suffering and carnage.
Maybe if the U.S government treated its citizens better this could never happen.
Isn't the government made up of these very citizens?
LITERALLY 😭
The problem with a civil between states is that it’s nearly impossible to separate Red States from Blue States. For every Red State, there are Blue Cities. For every Blue State there are millions of Red in the countryside. So this not be a North / South or East / West thing. This time around, every state could be at war with itself. And that's super messed up.
for those who are fearful about this movie inspiring anything happening in real life...
just embrace it, it is going to happen soon, nothing can stop it at this point, go and watch the movie and enjoy yourself while you can, before the film becomes reality.
Good.
Our enemies would thank us.
@@hansblitz7770 and you are a sad fool
@@thenotoriousgryyn342 well if talking about china, they will collapse behind us as they are falling apart
If this was to happen after an election it means that 10s of millions of people voted for a government and that the ones who start the Civil War are against the government voted in . Those people are identified as traitors and the response from th US government has to be very forceful with the threat of use of nuclear weapons. Only the president has the nuclear codes so it would be interesting to see how this movie will address that issue . So civil war is very unlikely in real life
I agree that I'm not "excited" for this movie in the same way as others. My anticipation of this one is also filled with dread, in even more of a way than before a horror movie. It's not a feeling I associate with movies very much so it's also kind of interesting, exciting, and novel. If that makes sense
Terrifying. From Ex M to Annihilation to Man and to Civil War. Garland has a way of digging into your subconscious and stoking your unrealized fears. Problem is, if you're already there, and seeing between the lines, he's breaking all kinds of new ground.
Even in his FX series Devs (Deus), the man is a true visionary. This film will be excellent.
People keep saying California and Texas allying makes no sense. To me it makes perfect sense. Both have been the most vocal about breaking away and one need look at history to see two sides can ally despite political and idealogical differences if they have a common goal and a larger threat. Them breaking away first makes sense as it wouldn't be about red or blue, but about the desire to go it alone, not be told what to do, and they would ally on that mind set.
yeah no
the average lifespan of an empire throughout history is 250 years. The United Staes is 247, don't worry, it's coming. All empires fall.
Yep. Can't wait for it to happen.
Saw this yesterday , it was hard hitting..especially the
“We are American “
“What kind of American?”
The trailer is frightening 😭 feels super dystopian, luckily the USA isn’t THAT divided or dystopian….. YET!
Those who don't learn from their history are doomed to repeat it. This is a powerful, powerful trailer.
and what is the lesson do tell
@@JohnWilliams-ud2os it's not my responsibility to learn your history for you.
@@josephpowell1611 you are talking nonscense there will be no.second civil.war. period
Word.
the "What kind of American are you?" quote is just spine chilling i mean seriously. theres already americans who talk just like that man and its scary.
This trailer was so hard to watch. Shook me to my core, honestly. I love Alex Garland’s work, his vision. Art is supposed to challenge us sometimes. I look forward to being uncomfortable in the movie theater watching this day one.
Anyone notice how the soldier with glasses sees red? Maybe representing how he only sees things from one side of the political spectrum or is filled with anger.
Dog, they're just glasses
@@Siapsidhen Nah its metaphorical, all he sees is red
You can’t blame just the right. Divisions are happening on the left too.
Fascism is mainstream in the right wing. It's not in the left.
The left are wiping their ass with the Constitution and sending all of our money to foreign nations; the neocons are basically both parties. Open border Marxist.
It's the Purge all over again. But without the games.
I worked as civilian Air Force Police, Security for an NSA site, and then became an investigator for Homeland Security. All that time I wore an American flag patch on my uniform, and did so with an enormous amount of pride - I was happy knowing I did my part to keep the country and Americans safe and secure. I also lived in the Florida Keys - 90 Miles from Cuba, and heard the stories of Castro's takeover - soldiers going through people's homes and taking everything valuable, then shooting all the males in the head and... Well, you can guess the rest. As Castro's neighbor, I tried to warn people over the past 8 years of the dangers of having a dictator, but most are like, "that'll never happen, and besides, maybe things will be better with just one person making decisions instead of waiting 6 months for Congress to pass something". No, they won't be better - they'll be much, much worse; that's what dictators do. For a while now I've also been saying America is on the verge of a civil war. I had also lived in Charleston SC and Savannah GA, but now live in Chicago - and I think of how I love the song 'Dixie' which was something President Lincoln has said as well; that the song brought him to tears because it reminded him of the beauty of the South, but was sad that the country was being torn apart. I agree completely; some of the kindest people I've ever met were in Charleston and Savannah, and those places still have a piece of my heart. Last night after the Colorado Supreme Court announced they found Trump ineligible to be on the ballot there were so many threats of death and violence online coming from the Right that I've never see anything like it. And, comments like, "we don't care who wins the election; Trump will be our leader even if we have to insert him into the White House by force, and we're ready for this". I think the country is in big, big trouble and I think it's all over one man - and it all just breaks my heart.
I've been waiting for some great creators like you to react to this. God Jesse P is CHILLING
The way you so viscerally reacted with a "fuck off" to the All Empires Fall part shows that you tacitly agree that America is an empire, lol.
There are too many Americans who think the premise of this movie would be awesome and fun.
I think there are going to be 2 reactions to it: 1. Scared and praying for it to remain fiction 2. Excited and prompted to push it to be a reality ....and I hope there are more 1s than 2s
You forgot 3. This is BS ain’t gonna happen.
you're scary....'what kind of American" sends chills down my spine coming from the military
This gives me Cyberpunk 2077 story vibes, like the years leading up to 2077, Corporate Wars, New United States of America, Rogue states. This also can weave seamlessly into the Leave The World Behind storyline as well. I'm almost scared to go watch it in the theaters, who knows what kind of conflict this could cause in the audience.
don't be worried. the movie is most likely gonna be about Texas and California joining forces to take down a tyranical president, remember the trailer said 3 term president. and he is probably gonna align with neither side of the political spectrum of the US.
I'm guessing the story is gonna be more about unity than anything else
"I'm almost scared to go watch it in the theaters, who knows what kind of conflict this could cause in the audience." You know... that... is a VERY true statement. Depending on your area, this could be even more unsettling. I am not one to allow myself to fear my surroundings but knowing there are plenty of people who cannot accept certain realities, this is something I will be thinking about.
When someone asked you " What type of American are you ?" while holding an AR, there's only 2 answers ..... 1. I support Joe Biden 2. I am Maga! .. choose wisely in that scenario!
Really good can't wait to see it love action movies
That was one of the most frightening trailers I’ve ever seen. I was just sitting here shaking my head. Maybe this will help the rhetoric calm down I doubt it, but I can hope.
It looks amazing and powerful.
This cautionary film was made because us as sane individuals let the insanity run to long. This is our warning. This is the result of saying i dont feel like talking about politics or have discourse.
A DOCUMENTARY FOR OUR FUTURE?
I fall into the right on the issues, But I pray with all my heart, That this civil war will never happen, Just so the old and the young don't suffer
Hi John, As an Irish Man/European watching America from the outside - it's a shitshow at moment - all the vested interests "fighting" for their slice of the pie. It doesn't matter whether your Red or Blue - Everyone needs the Basics - Food Shelter and warmth and lets face it - the for profit system you have doesn't work!!!! The American population need to wake up and hopefully the visual shock factor will help!!!
Exactly..well said. Finally, some good comments in here that are insightful and carry wisdom.
Even as a Scot living in the UK, this is chilling beyond belief. It feels like it’s going to be one of those films that acts like a dire warning such as Red Dawn, The Day After or, in the UK, 1983’s Threads, to this day the most chilling depiction of nuclear horror put to screen. It would be wrong to use the phrase “looking forward” to seeing this film, but I do want to see it. I have faith in Garland.
You can see "On the Beach 2000"
USA is gonna get hot and tense. Don't come over here. I'm not joking. Illegal migrant influx through our open Texas border is no joke. And it's an incentive and possible prelude to civil war. All that has to happen for it to go hot is martial law declared nationally.
Crazy that this movie is getting released on 2024 elections
That line is going to be famous “What kind of American are you “😮😮😮😮🤔🤔🤔🤔
My favorite part in this movie is when the guy says what kind of american are you It says it right there
That was creepy. He was FORCING them to commit to taking sides and not just letting them be REGULAR PEOPLE. It is a "you are either with us or against us" mentality without allowing a person to just be themselves.
Thanks for doing this reaction.. this is a rough one to watch because of the reality we live in
fascists calling other people fascist will always be funny to me.
Agreed. Like when Trump supporters cry about Biden being a fascist. Nothing makes me laugh louder.
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Thank you. This is terrifying but a very real possibility. I feel this is our last warning.
When you see and hear Rocha like that after watching the trailer, it gives you anxiety.
This looks interesting. I've seen some people saying "TX and CA would never be on the same side" and I think the goal there is to not have to pit those two sides against one another. That would make the film seem like it's taking sides on actual current day political and cultural conflicts if one side were to ultimately prevail. By teaming together the two states that are probably the most representative of the two major political parties here in the States it makes it a lot easier to have an analysis or deconstruction of American politics without anyone disregarding the film entirely for perceived bias.
Not only that, but you can rationalize those two states having an alliance at least during a wartime scenario if they both decided to secede from the Union after a President refused to step down and began to serve a third term or something which they mention the current POTUS in the film to be a third term President. Like more just an alliance of convenience to fight the civil war and not some kind of political union meant to last after things have settled. California and Texas are both states that could probably survive on their own the best if the Union broke apart.
People also forget the State of Jefferson and Greater ID secessionist movements in CA
@@CitroChannel California isnt surviving today let alone on its own haha. But yeah
@@QuantumFlux_22 I mean, that is just factually not true. California alone has a higher GDP that a lot of full-fledged nation states and produces a huge quantity of food and goods. California has its own issues to be sure, but it would be able to function as a small country if it had to... especially because there would be a lot of European nations happy to ally with it to help with trade deals and such due to it being the center of a lot of tech industry stuff. The fact that California's tax subsidies are used to help a lot of other states is pretty solid proof they would be (relatively) fine compared to the vast majority of states in a similar situation. Texas, as mentioned, is one of the other few states that could probably survive on its own as long as it also eventually made alliances/deals with other western nations. Other states in the US would likely have to group together into their own unions to do what California or Texas could do.
You are absolutely right
Yo. This looks INCREDIBLE. scary? Yes. Absolutely. It's a terrifying reality to imagine, and a reality that could always have the potential to become real. However, let's not forget this is a film. A fictional scenario, and this is still meant at its core as entertainment. I see a lot of people in the comments getting a little ridiculous and acting like this movie is gospel or prophecy. Make sure to keep reality and fiction separated.
I felt your pain, brother. It was visceral. And it is scary. There is a real chance that we can have something like this really soon.
God bless you man. Hang tough. We need good people, and I know you are one of the good ones. Be well.
seems like your terminally online
Garland is a director who never leaves us indifferent. I like this trailer and the story he wants to tell us. As someone who is not part of the US this doesn't feel personal, but I understand and know why this story is scary or disturbing for someone.
It’s Alex Garland so I’m in.
why is a F-22 doing a roll at low altitude into a combat zone
Yeah... It looked cheesy and took me out of the trailer. No reason other than theatrics a filmmaker thought was needed, because low altitude F-22's flying over a warzone in America is apparently not exciting/impactful enough without planes doing rolls?
Well if they're flying low like that it means they have uncontested airspace or flying low to avoid enemy AA, but even if the society provided the separatist with s300s, the f22 has low radar cross section so why bother having to fly low
Well since its hollywood, pretty sure its going to lean heavily in 1 direction....
Kinda like this channel seems to as well
Why does the sniper have pink and blue nail polish on. I would like my nail polish to be all the same color.
thanks for your emotional honesty.
I’ve got a feeling this is going to be a very visceral controversial film that could make garland really popular in the world . I really took to rocha reaction here. And me knowing him he wouldn’t rest. This way loosely. I cannot wait to sink my teeth into this
Outside of the Big Cities the West Coast is Red, the Cities are Blue. That's fact 💯 just saying 😮😊
There was a tear to my eye watching it yesterday. Today, watching your reaction, I wept.
"History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme."
I was really looking forward to your reaction to this trailer. I share your thoughts and feelings about this one. I felt chills down my spine the first time I saw it. I like the way you described it as a 'scary trailer' and having no relation to the horror genre. It does feel a bit scary. Great reaction video.
In my mind this is the sequel to Leave The World Behind
I watched Leave the World Behind the other day, and then this is coming out. For whatever reason, while watching the trailer, The Last Ship, a tv show, came to mind. There is a part in the show where the regional governors attempt a coup, and to break apart the US into regions under those governors. For whatever reason, that keeps entering my brain. Texas, and Cali is just weird. My only guess would be intention to secede, and working together temporarily expressly for that purpose.
"What kind of American are you?"
"South American?" (the actor is brazilian)
"I really don´t know how to respond to this answer"
Watch it with subtitles on. Read the words because too much audio is garbled. There is a news reporter that mentioned the 3rd Term President....that clearly plays a factor. Think about a sitting President seizing power for a 3rd term. What had to occur to bring THAT about?
What president said he wanted to use the military to stay in power, this was in the movie right???
Sure guy, it’s just the right that’s divisive. The tree of liberty has to be watered from time to time.
What liberty are you talking about? The liberty to take away reproductive rights from women. The liberty to shove the LGBTQ+ community into the closet by falsely using religion to do it. The liberty to ban books that encourage freedom of thinking and the questioning of the systemic injustice in our country. Brother, MAGA people are pissing on the tree of liberty and calling it water.
Free Texas
I retired from the Army as SFC and like most people that I served with conservative. There is the chance that a civil war happens and that is why I believe people should be armed
And informed
That seems to be the prequel to the hunger games: Civil War, the rise of Panem.
We still have a prequel to the Hunger Games in theaters right now. The actor for the young version of Senator Snow looks like he is barely 20 years old and the geriatric Donald Southerland looked like he had a foot in the grave in the first series of Hunger Games movies. It would be a prequel to the prequal ahahahahahha.
Lyrics from GNR Civil War are going off in my head
"We've got the wall of D.C. to remind us all that you can't trust freedom when it's not in your hands."
"The bloody hands of the hypnotized carry the cross of homicide " is fitting for the end of this trailer. In God they trust , live and kill by
I too am an Army vet (10 years). I cannot watch this movie. Like the Outlaw I keep my eyes on politics and this movie is too real for me. The trailer made me a little nervous. It looks amazing and could be another gold star for A24.
I'll be watching your reaction soon enough since I'm unable to watch at the moment, but I think the reaction of some, to bury their heads and say they don't need to see this because it seems too real, is kind of the point. Make people see what a second civil war would actually do.
Honestly, since this is being made, I really hope this doesn't shy away from what might actually happen. I'm anticipating somewhere a scene that addresses potential ethnic cleansing or mass killings of political opponents. There is a lot of present day issues being presented like the targeting of civilians and the press, which unfortunately for some, might be what they would actually like to see in this country. The like of "what kind of American are you?" SHOULD be horrifying to everyone, but we know there are plenty of people in this country who have a definition of what an American is, that does not include swaths of the population.
I won't say I am looking forward to watching this, but I definitely will be seeing it to see what kind of message this is trying to say.
It definitely seems like a warning to remember how horrifying a Civil War would actually be. I'd bet the women in the shop who is "trying to stay out of it" is also the one hanging in the doorway later on showing no-one would be safe or untouched by such an event.
Scary stuff, i wouldn't doubt something like this happening in a year's time. With all that's going on right now
T R U M P 2 0 2 4. For a 3rd win.
Really interesting that it was an alliance between Texas and California is very scary too. So many people between those two states. Wow.
why texas and cali hate each other
Damn, brother. Had not even heard of this trailer. Thanks so much for the intro. I miss your discussions with Dorina. Take care, brother...and thank you for your service.
As far as I'm concerned, your reaction to _this_ film was the _only_ reaction I was interested in seeing. You are one of the very few on youtube I watch, who dares to talk about the state of your country's politics; also you're one of the rare ones really au fait with current affairs. The film seems grave, dystopian & realistic: similar to how I feel when watching The Handmaid's Tale.
John is brave and has a good heart. Most of these other people only care about 💵
As other people sad: if Texas and California lead the alliance against the POTUS and US Government the situation in the movie must be terrible ...
Thanks to wokeness this will be the reality.
Wokeness? Uh huh. 😂 Try thanks to MAGA nutballs.
@JohnRochaSays I think there are plenty of radical cry babies on both sides that are fed up with each other. Hence you are both very correct depending on where you are standing.
Evil President Nick Offerman should be interesting.
Offerman's quickly becoming an acting GOAT in my opinion
They will probably flip it and make him the liberal president using force on citizens
He was really good in Devs.
Thanks for your service.
Hollywood always predicts the future😮
we already had a civil war sir.
@user-yb1zq5sw6r ummm,lol,first off not a sir🤷♀️, so if something already happened it can't happen again? we can't have a second Civil War ? tell that to the people who fought World War II after World War I.... Hollywood does predict the future::: flip phones/ Star Trek ,laptops/ 2001 Space Odyssey, touch screen/ Minority Report... movies with black presidents before we had our first black president...Black Sunday/terror attack etc.... and we can have another civil war there are 330 million Americans in over 400 million guns Milling about.. so yeah, that could definitely happen... it's better to be aware and prepared then get caught with your dick in your hand...so to speak✌️
I am excited for this movie. This country needs leaders and if Alex Garland is willing to try to shake the table a bit, and it definitely looks like he is, my hat is OFF to him. The balls on this man. He was one of my favorite scifi directors and now idk. I can't imagine this film living up to my expectations. I want it to hit us like Crash did in 2004 for a lot of people. An emotional slap in the face is what a lot of people need, sorry. Love you John!
Lock and load gentlemen! Protect your family from everyone! ❤
Project 2025 is what is brought to mind when I see this.
This is only a test
Huh
I'm looking forward to it. Love a lot of what Alex Garland does and Jesse Plemons is well worth the price of admission. I'm personally enjoying the folks that bathe in conspiracy culture and are losing their minds over some of the movies lately. "Predictive Programming!!!"
Maybe this is the movie we need. Like art imitating life it's holding up a mirror and saying this is you. Look at it. There are thousands of people who are pushing for this shit and it's not the glamorous, shootem up fantasy that they think it is. War is brutal. War is horrific. War should be avoided and god willing this mirror 🪞 film may wake enough people up to stop this shit from happening.
Russia and China are LOVING THIS!
This movie appears to go out of its way to avoid the current left/right paradigm.
A great reaction by Rocha! I knew he would have thoughts.
A real horror movie!
I love this channel- thanks for the trailer. I know I can come here when I need someone to keep it 💯
You lost me when you said the stuff on hunter was BS. I'm out.
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But but Hunter had his cock out!!! But the hookers!!!!
Meanwhile trump is literally trying to overturn democracy to stay in power. I hate trumptards.
This is not an airport, you do not need to announce your departure
Lol womp womp
Ok, I’ll say that Trump is a little Hitler wanna be.
I don’t support Biden.
I don’t support Trump.
Especially after HE said that the MAGA Camp would reject those that didn’t support him.
I’d like to know if that means if he wouldn’t be a President to those that didn’t support him?
I’ve ALWAYS said that THIS IS MY PRESIDENT whether I voted for them or not.
I support the United States of America and The Constitution.
Please reply.
They referring northern California. They don't want be part of California
I don’t think they should release this movie, just my opinion. We have to mini problems here enough it’s going to put people over the edge even more.
This does indeed look like this could very well happen in the near future, scary for America and the free world 😒
What kind of american are you..
That Line is so, so revelant today cause on what's happening in our society.
I don’t do very well with films like this. I feel films like this, “The Hunt”, and even “The Purge” give those sick people out there really “bad ideas”. Many of us who don’t wear roses colored glasses and are engaged don’t need this kind of thing. This isn’t entertainment. I’m not sure what the point of why this was even made and if this was a means to educate people to be involved and unified, it’s failing. Hard pass for me. (Great reaction, Outlaw - thanks for your time in sharing this with us) 🙏🏻
I'm definitely going to check this out. Personally I don't mind the California + Texas team-up here, yeah I don't think it's realistic to the real world, but I think it works here as a way to remind us that this is ultimately a fiction story which I think is important.
Honestly i think the team-up makes sense, Cali and Texas are the most likely out of the states to thrive on their own and you know how it is, the enemy of my enemy is my friend
The story effectively seems to be that there is a President on his 3rd term which would be against the Twenty Second Amendment. It's not too hard to imagine a backstory of how that could happen. Assuming the rogue President is backed by the North East of the US then the only alliance capable of breaking that faction would likely be Texas & California working together so it does make a certain amount of sense and makes it more about the principles of the Constitution rather than Liberal vs Conservative ideology.
Yea, California had more trump voters than any other state besides texas so it’s not super far fetched in some reality that California and Texas could team up. Pretty wild.
Oscar nominations.
I feel you Rocha
I see A24 is doing documentaries nowadays.